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Can we sort the bitcoin addresses according to their BTC value? Which bitcoin address has the most BTC?
As far as I know, all transactions are already recorded. Then I think we can sort these addresses by their BTC value.
Any ideas on this?

This -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/3Nxwenay9Z8Lc9JBiywExpnEFiLp6Afp8v
according to -> https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

Can we never know who this address belongs to? Is it impossible to find the addressee's identity?

It is probably Satoshis personal wallet.  ;)

unless the owner of a bitcoin address tells us we have little to no way of finding that out.
what you can do is to search all the addresses that sent to or received bitcoin from the said address. you can find out if there are any other addresses linked with the said address (used both in same transaction as input) then find out who those addresses belong to and find a possible link between a real person, possibly a service like an exchange and those addresses.
check out walletexplorer.com too.

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It is probably Satoshis personal wallet.  ;)
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I doubt that, as we had a transaction just a few days back. From what I recall, the satoshi suspected personal wallet addresses haven't had any transaction since 2010. There also have been other addresses with more bitcoins in the past.

satoshi has more than that he have at least 200k satoshi, that address probably belong to an exchange? i can't see any other behind it at the moment, or maybe the twins?

IIRC Bitstamp holds at least 100k in cold storage, that number is a bit old though so they might hold more now. They might also moved the funds to several addresses each holding a lower amount, which would make sense from a security perspective.

I doubt that, as we had a transaction just a few days back. From what I recall, the satoshi suspected personal wallet addresses haven't had any transaction since 2010. There also have been other addresses with more bitcoins in the past.
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Its indeed hard to tell but most likely its not from him/her, I think that its someone else with a lot of money..

Definitely not Satoshis wallet.

It's really intriguing though to wonder when or if any of Satoshis coins will have any movement in the future. I'm sure a lot of speculation will arise if that happens.

No doubt these addresses with a lot of coin and recent transactions probably belong to an exchange of some sort. Especially when it's a multisig address.

Why should this be important? I am asking seriously. Besides to know what the winning price is for guessing a private Key could be i see no reason to know this. Someone can have more then one wallet, so you can not say the holder is the richest or whatever.

I thought might be his address :)
But satoshi is smart. He does not keep all his bitcoins in a single address. He keeps them in different addresses in a way that people can not notice.

Knowing the richest address is possible. I will no longer post the link since others have already posted it here. The owner of that wallet being not known to the public is a good thing, it will serve as a protection and security to the owner of that btc. They should hide themselves so they will not place their selves  in danger.

Can't remember the address since I didn't bookmark it but it had more than 320k bitcoins in it with more than 19k transactions which shows how really people trust the blockchain safety.

I think so. I mean what is the benefit of knowing address that has the most bitcoin? will it bring benefit for us? probably yes if you write it on a blog that will give you money when many people click in it. but it will not much I think. so after see the link to the information about the address, I think that is enough.

I don't think this is possible to find out. As wallet contains lots of address so it will be difficult to trace out which wallet belongs to which address.
The other question which comes in my mind is that a Single wallet can contains how many maximum addresses ? Any Idea ?

Thanks for this info and seeing those wallets are jaw dropping and theres no way to find out whose the owner of that wallet since bitcoin is fully anonymous and i couldnt see that it own by satoshi itself since there are lots of early adopters when bitcoin is just starting.This wallet maybe from an exchange since there are lots of transactions.

It wont be possible as most of the wallets when transferred little amount also the balance get transferred to other address so each transaction the bitcoin jumps to new address. So it is highly impossible to record the details.

Thanks for the link, but I don't think the biggest holder of BTC will keep it in the same addreess for security reasons

This information would be of zero value, because this changes constantly. Most exchanges and gambling sites have coins in cold storage, so

it might be big today, and gone tomorrow. The other thing is, most people who knows a little bit about cold storage, would tell you that you

do not use a single address to store your coins offline. You split your coins up into smaller groups, to make it easier to sweep coins when you

need it. Moving 1000's of coins out of cold storage, every time you want to use 1 or 2, would be impractical.  ::)

Knowing this is not really important, it won't change anything and we have no idea who is behind that big address.
But it is hell of a fun to watch people speculate who might be owning so many BTC. :)

Bitcoin is not anonymous, if it would be the question by OP could not be answered. Its pseudonymous, like e-mail.

It is also possible to figure out a specific Bitcoin address using as many service as our technology are upgrading continuously.Just imagine I sent some bitcoins from one of my own addresses to another there It's possible to tell that two addresses are in the same wallet if they as same we can caught out the identify of the Bitcoin address owner through their is some difficulties but there are as many service which will help you view the current balance of any Bitcoin address.

Maybe it's Satoshi Nakamoto's address has the most bitcoins ::)

Same wallet can have multiple addresses, so most in one address does not mean it has the most bitcoins. But this top address is really impressive with $100 million equivalent in it.

Why is bitcoin not anonymous? What personal information can they access?

Why isn't that person using multiple addresses instead of holding that much sum on one address?

Bitcoin may be quite anonymous if you use mixers, exhanges etc

because if you lose one private key you won't lose everything, don't put all your eggs in one basket

and they may associate one address to you, but not the others

and some addresses with a smaller balance will draw less attention than one with a big balance

It be foolish to hold all your BTC in one address especially if you are BTC bagholders. This is just to prevent the unexpected incase your wallet is hacked

Yes I suspect so because I'm told he has about 1 million bitcoins unspent but it's also possible that one of the Chinese mining farms are singly holding more than 1 million bitcoins as there are 16 million bitcoins mined already so it's possible a single address might be having more than Satoshi's address but it can't be determined here.

Wasn't there a wallet ID that was one of the first that was suspected to be Satoshi's? I remember the community freaking out during the $1200 spike when 180,000 bitcoins moved in and out of that wallet, probably the largest transaction at that time (imagine the mining fees on that one)

You are asking the wrong question. What personal information can you get from the e-mail address "shor3na@gmail.com"? None, but when you send a mail to it you know it will always end up with the same person. Thats what pseudonymous means. There is an alias which masks my personal information, yet you can still know you send information to the same person using the same alias. Bitcoin Addresses have the same property. A fully anonymous system has no aliases. Everything would look identical or like random noise without any way to distinguish one person (behind an alias) from the other.

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You are funny, using exchanges would very likely blow your pseudonym as well as you need to identify yourself to the exchange. A mixer can help to avoid connections between addresses, thus keeping your pseudonyms apart from eachother. It does not make you anonymous. It just helps you to maintain your privacy.

see also e.g. here -> https://bitcoin.org/en/you-need-to-know#anonymous

What happens if we do not associate any account with our bitcoin address?
When I transfer funds from the bitcoin exchange sites to my bank account, my identity is revealed.
But what happens if I make all my purchases online without making a connection with my personal account?

In short, I wonder if the bitcoin protocol itself is anonymous? Is our IP address logged?

The most practical method to stay completely anonymous is to use a mixer service which you could set receiving addresses and even set delay time in sending orders, and no matter from where you are sending your bitcoins to the mixer's address, your IP is no longer an issue.
IP addresses of the nodes are logged anyone relaying transactions but they might using TOR so you can't really tell if it's their real IP.

Mixing bitcoin is like using burner phones.

Do not we see the first address and last address in the bitcoin laundry sites?

For example, x my personal address. the mixer sites are addresses a, b, c, d, e, f
I transferred money from address x to address c. The mixer site transferred the money between his addresses.
Example process: x -> c -> f -> a -> e -> b -> d

Now, when I want to use the money at d, can not it be found that this money comes from x address?
Can not they ask where you got this money from?

the path of money is more like:
X is a matrix of 1000's of addresses
each one of them moving, like you said:  -> c -> f -> a -> e -> b -> d
and finaly from d to 1000's of destination addresses.

so, do you think you can trace back the path of all this transaction's?
believe me, it will be really really hard mission.

I am running blockparser from time to time, so the top BTC addresses looked like that about a week ago

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Balance                      Hash160                             Base58                  nbIn        lastTimeIn          nbOut        lastTimeOut
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         131439.82180613 e95dbb25283cc35d4a6aefa76c0382e63ce0fa36 3Nxwenay9Z8Lc9JBiywExpnEFiLp6Afp8v     83 Fri Jan 13 21:31:52 2017      20 Fri Jan 13 21:31:52 2017
         124178.00014420 bcadb700c24da04b17feb9aa9bd71e368a4b623c 1JCe8z4jJVNXSjohjM4i9Hh813dLCNx2Sy     20 Fri Dec 23 07:58:33 2016       1 Wed Aug 24 11:48:26 2016
          83136.54056264 4fafd53c1d1359fafb95a231ef16e64c01112cf2 38xMwnXgYmnzvbmqz8TFZ1zxnwVcdv1uq4    684 Sun Jan 15 14:07:57 2017     280 Sun Jan 15 14:07:57 2017
          79957.12659773 a0b0d60e5991578ed37cbda2b17d8b2ce23ab295 1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF     89 Wed Dec 28 09:53:40 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          69370.10690994 b3dd79fb3460c7b0d0bbb8d2ed93436b88b6d89c 1HQ3Go3ggs8pFnXuHVHRytPCq5fGG8Hbhx     69 Sat Nov 12 03:16:46 2016       1 Thu Apr 23 14:10:25 2015
          66650.59640465 3d03002dbed5cb1dc10fc6bcb0886d2df32f2838 16ZbpCEyVVdqu8VycWR8thUL2Rd9JnjzHt    170 Sun Nov 13 23:32:38 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          66583.22391617 cd4b7b8f9db1b0c709fd0c9f0534fca6a9f40495 1KiVwxEuGBYavyKrxkLncJt2pQ5YUUQX7f    120 Sat Feb 13 06:40:01 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          66452.06624862 f9e6bbcdc83d8f351014e07495f386fe1067ec7b 1PnMfRF2enSZnR6JSexxBHuQnxG8Vo5FVK    114 Sat Feb 13 06:40:01 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          66378.80961189 6a6015e3793207af6dff7c48ee9e193d73547cdc 1AhTjUMztCihiTyA4K6E3QEpobjWLwKhkR    181 Thu Feb 18 17:09:28 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          66235.82427687 8b70193546504fa3623598722575f70b5b1c6455 1DiHDQMPFu4p84rkLn6Majj2LCZZZRQUaa    125 Sat Feb 13 06:40:01 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          66233.73859546 908b47d6a15d89c3ee34df1bc68a00ec4ff70c9b 1EBHA1ckUWzNKN7BMfDwGTx6GKEbADUozX    127 Fri Aug 26 09:33:37 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          66205.47375047 27ed35ebcf72744ec3b4a0f4dbb83d7620acf443 14e7XAZbepQp9MXXzjNG3fNLoAUpaBAXHW    132 Fri Apr 29 10:29:14 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          66170.69605917 f33a3af3695f041e2ea6271f1fe6309abac4dd58 1PB4xXUFyy4kSNqroCBVaQuCuw9VcN3be4    171 Fri Feb 12 04:57:18 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          66163.44524020 53f9818e8d2d23c3163c01a33d83e49ebfa16ac4 18f1yugoAJuXcHAbsuRVLQC9TezJ6iVRLp    124 Wed Mar  9 23:07:42 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          53880.05741758 d74de95f65799793f16b91ed8a152110652d3ec0 1LdRcdxfbSnmCYYNdeYpUnztiYzVfBEQeC     21 Fri Feb 12 04:57:18 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          48260.47200000 95d214e83ce3f9c635fdc049c4d6bf0fd40306ad 1EfBMK9q6rGFZazeF7jyNdTgqGYgcDgRE5     13 Wed Aug 24 05:31:56 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          45072.71428633 c5464169a9aabad0e361ccf1d436d3e843708e7d 3Kg7Cmooris7cLErTsijq6qR1FH3cTiK2G  20897 Fri Jan  6 20:05:00 2017      10 Fri Jan  6 20:05:00 2017
          44998.00006000 3d9e561f21d312f9b8b46e74169263e2452d5591 16cou7Ht6WjTzuFyDBnht9hmvXytg6XdVT     58 Fri Jul  8 14:53:10 2016      55 Thu Jun  2 14:09:27 2016
          44864.42498338 e552a6a2afa8ae80a773dc9bb95f8c25c5b3bdd3 1MuYkciQTfRsU94ReAe5MiAfUpCrbLBcFR  20887 Fri Feb 12 04:57:18 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
          44097.99133500 563362991b8627e0def8c69b086339e59dc11e4c 18rnfoQgGo1HqvVQaAN4QnxjYE7Sez9eca    173 Fri Jan 13 08:56:02 2017       9 Wed Mar 30 15:49:12 2016
          44009.11740108 2e0d00d098274c907a59713677da96f9bd9e49b7 15CVfJUC1LKn1GKZx6RM5UMbFfnTd8vTT4     29 Sun Jul  3 09:57:42 2016       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970



You can get a lot of other information from a blockparser run too. E.g. the oldest most funded BTC address. Which is:


 200.00000000 bcade5c8ddf6a571e438575771ce766ae7a01948 1JCeMgVeDzLdxz3G5vRin2ydNxUp6E5yFf      1 Wed Feb 11 23:32:48 2009       0 Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970



Which - I'm sure only by pure coincidence - is also the only one that has the same bcad hash160 prefix like the 2nd most funded BTC address.



Rico

Could you explain a little more? Is it a 1000X1000 matrix? And do you have randomly generated btc addresses in the elements of this matrix?

And how do you process these matrices? multiplication, addition?

I didn't mean actually a matrix of x by y addresses, just tried to demonstrate there are a lot of addresses uses the same paths so it'll be very hard to trace back a single transaction.
And I guess they add some dummy transactions just to make it harder.
Anyway, if you know someone who can figure out the origin of a specific transaction let me know

I think this address has the most BTC: 3Kg7Cmooris7cLErTsijq6qR1FH3cTiK2G
Really a very large fortune circulating, no, i think a huge fortune.
Maybe it's Mafia or a big campaign.

It is not possible that Satoshi holds the most number of bitcoin but I believe that he does have many bitcoin address, also the signature campaigns are one of those since they are using bitcoin as payment and for their business, if I am not mistaken China also holds a large number of bitcoin since they do own large mining company. 

We can think of a solution by knowing what mathematical rule the mixing process is based on.
There are advanced math programs. For example MatLab
Do you know the algorithms used by the mixer sites?

I think this is not possible to look about millions of bitcoin address. But it's probably possible by doing automatic coding to to do the tasks automatically by our system. I am curious to make such programs

I'm actually pretty good with MATLAB scripts, working on it on my work.
Maybe I'll try to code something to figure it out, but I'll need some references. I'll do some transactions myself and then use this knowledge to trace it back. Then I'll try to trace others' transactions.

Woow we can see which wallet have the most bitcoins that is really perfect for everybody because we can see that miracle which soembody did.Woow so many bitcoins he have on bitcoin wallet wow i cant beleive.

And why do you want to know that? Knowing the addresses with the most bitcoin may be relevant as a trivia or something but we don't need to know the identities of those holding those coins, I don't see a single reason for that information to be relevant.

bitcoin has the advantage one of which control and security - bitcoin users are in full control of their transactions; it is impossible for merchants to force unwanted or unnoticed charges as can happen with other payment methods. bitcoin payments can be made without personal information tied to the transaction. this offers strong protection against identity theft. bitcoin users can also protect their money with backup and encryption.

Yes i agree with you and it will be dangerous for bitcoin's price because sometime
they can do dumping bitcoins on the markets,
we can guess many people losing value of money if it happens and
we can not make prediction it will happening.

I see this address 3Kg7Cmooris7cLErTsijq6qR1FH3cTiK2G has  received 158,000 Btc. The amount is big but not so big that i can claim it to be the highest BTC address.
Anyways, it really does not matter which addy had high bitcoins unless one of those addy belongs to me. ;)

Before you do this, you need to know the algorithms that mixers use.
As far as I know, no mixer sites not share source code.

But if I don't know the algorithm I still can try to figure it out by examples.
If I use their service I can track my own money, and I can learn from that how they work.
Of course they can change something once in couple of days and then my work is useless.

There is a list called the "Rich List" which has the top 100 richest Bitcoin addresses in the world, and here is the richest one from that list: https://blockchain.info/address/1JCe8z4jJVNXSjohjM4i9Hh813dLCNx2Sy. It's unbelievable how much money this account has and it is supposed that this account is owned by Satoshi Nakamoto, but I don't think anyone really knows.

I do not think they would have already done it, I mean  about dump BTC, even if they did, many people would pick up quickly, counteract its effect in a short time.

I would assume that one of Satoshi's old addresses that he no longer uses is the one with the most Bitcoin, especially since it's rumored he has a million or so BTC stored from when the network was just getting started and he had to help everyone else get it propagating.

I don't know for sure though, I'm sure some people would have posted them.

Wishful thinking but probably not Satoshi's. The last deposit was within the last week. It's probably the wallet for a business - BTC investment fund, 21.co, Chinese miner, something like that.

The last deposit was 33,000 BTC!

That's a lot of scratch though...damn, to have that much coin!