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I have a doubt about mining X11.

Today I own RIG of R9-280 / 280x / and I'm getting the new Rx-470
Unfortunately in my country we pay 60% more than in the US besides the theft of traders who is abusive. A GPU that at Amazon is 200 USD for us arrives at the cost of 350 USD.

This way when the mining reaches a plateau where it is not as profitable seeing the GPUs as in the old rigs, R9-270 / 270x R9 370.

Well, I've been researching about X11 mining with the Baikal Miners, 150 Mh / s @ 40w / 12v
http://www.baikalminer.com/ShowProducts.asp?id=466

Today I have the possibility to migrate every system to my current solar supply.

My questions are.
Baikal Miner @ X11 Something, would you have been at least 2 years old?

Today the cost of a Baikal is 300 USD, return on investment in 1 year.

In AMD / Rx 470 consumption is 150w / CARD.

I would like everyone's opinions.

I thank you.

baikal is beast, pm me if u need

Many thanks for the info, bittawm
Until I see that it is better, but in case I would like more arguments, and also know how the system works, since I'm already accustomed to GPUs in W 7 x64

The baikal's are very good miners and hash exactly as advertised.  You need to take into account the current state of ROI is mostly due to the rise in Dash.  Whether that will continue needs to be factored into your own analysis.

TNX DebitMe

I usually perform trades with the crypts, and by the analysis of friends, DASH as well as ETH will have a good ascent, however it is as it spoke is with a high pump.
Is the use estimate for something X11 valid for more than 2 years?

For it would be the first year for the payment of the machines and the following for the return.
Remembering that I will not sell the machines for their low consumption compensates to keep them mining for some time.

Is there any competitor for Baikal X11 miner?

Only thing holding me back is not knowing how long before new and improved X11 miners get made making these obsolete with no gamers or any real market interested in buying the old ones, and also the fact that the current profitability and ROI will be crushed as the sales for these X11 miners jumps up

The Ethernet requirement is a hindrance for me as well plus at the price for this thing it would be nice if it included all power cables needed and such

Baikal or GPU?

atm, mining with x11 with baikal is a little more profitable than mining other algorithms with gpu

Yes, a X11 algo, was pumped with a DASH, but a baikal 150 only spend 40W

0,26 MH/W.

My question is whether the baikal remains for some time to at least withdraw the investment.

You can't really compare the hashrate speeds of different algorithms when mined with GPU or CPU(ASIC). Do the math, it's not that hard... Also atm, mining with the baikal is way more power efficient.

Baikal Miners are one of the best Asics I´ve had so far.. shipping is fast, they work as promised, ROI is ok compared to other products... of course I can´t tell you how reliable they are long term...

I didn't even know these things existed, I've been out of the game for so long. The Baikal X11 is either out of stock everywhere or people are reselling for 2x their value. Are they in stock anywhere for their default $299 price? If so that's very profitable.

Hmmmm - don`t think so.... it is sold from Baikal website for 2400USD, I don`t know now how theyship it & if shipping is included on that price. On Aliexpress for example are sellers what ship immediately for 50 more or so via DHL Express. Wit fees what seller pay it is same priced (more or less) - look:

http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/BeyZ7QZ

Try https://asicminermarket.com/
several options to pay. trusted and good prices.

Any infos how to overclock Baikal miner?
I beleive that is possible.

I did not understand his answer, because he wanted to show the efficiency of mining capacity.
Obviously, it verifies if it is profitable if the caption x consumption is positive and thus multiplied to the algorithm, but the GPU's are that I can sell later, and the X11 Baikal does not.


What is the estimated time for the useful life, based on its use, only consumption x return.


I want buy  in Aliex.
Because Tax, and other things of my country.

Realy Thanks  4 all

safest bet is to buy gpu used, mine etc or eth.  ETC has no longterm value as its a pump/dump coin by fanatics.

ETH, ZEC, XMR have potential though.

Dash has potential too.  You could just accumulate 1000 dash to automine with zero gpu.


Asics are harder to resell if market goes south.  GPU can usually always resell somewhere and I've always had them ROI over lifetimes.

Why buy used GPUs over new? Do used GPU's maintain the warranty? If not then is the slight price difference worth it?

Advantage of GPU over the Baikal ASIC is that if diff goes nuts in Dash (which is likely) or price falls (which is also likely) a GPU can mine about 100 other coins that Baikal cannot.

Baikal can mine any algo X11, as Dash too, not only.
I see Consumption of a BAikal is 40w, and GPU 150w,

well a baikal can mine 6 algo not only one, so you have some other option in case x11 tank, it's also true that if dash tank other coins can not sustain its hash

Agreed, there are some other options. But none of them as profitable, and while I am a fan of Baikal/Dash I would still argue that GPU most likely have better resale value and wider application area.

Not saying Baikal is a bad value, just pointing out limitations.

When buying GPUs, why buy a used GPU over a new GPU? The price may be lower but do used GPUs keep their warranty? I thought the warranty only applied to the original buyer

I can only imagine that mining would somehow break the warranty, but who knows.

Baikal miner is currently based 40nm architecture. More than likely with all the money they are getting, they will put it into R &D and release 20 nm or even 14 nm machine soon. Once that happens, all of the existing Baikal machines will be less valuable. As for the GPUs, they will need to find some other coin to make it worthwhile.

Does anyone know the mining power of one Sapphiretech Rx 470 Nitro model for Dash/x11 algo ?

at current rate of profitability i only need less than 3 months to roi with a A-900 giant, nothing can roi that fast at the moment

Has anybody succeed to ordered any Baikal miner lately? It seems price has jumped 2-3x.

I bought in January 1 mini miner and in February 3 more mini miners and joined them together to quad. I am very satisfied with them so I am thinking of buying more.
If you want to buy then go ONLY on

http://www.baikalminer.com/

all other sites are scammers and thieves.
Price is 300$ for mini, 1200$ for quad and 2380$ for giant.
Both times I got discount too :)

It is too bad that I have to do their job. They should be advertising on forums by themselves...

PS: Payment DASH and BTC only

They are sold out, advertising would do them no good right now but frustrate buyers who want their product but cannot get it.

Thats a scam!!!

Yes, sadly. I contacted them and they dont have them. They even dont know when will they be available. One would say that chinese could make thousands of miners over weekend but looks like it isn't so...