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Title: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Bitbel on March 22, 2017, 08:31:11 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Jacce on March 22, 2017, 09:27:15 PM
The main argue I've heard is that the child will fare badly as a result of it. Whether it is true or not is another question, but I think I saw a local study some time ago that gave that argument some credit. I'm on phone at the moment, so I don't really feel like trying to that study now though (and it wouldn't be in English anyway).

Personally, I am a little bit hesitant, but if it can be proven that a child growing up with parents of the same sex will have an equally good childhood as those coming from a "normal" family, then I do not see any problem with it.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Mometaskers on March 22, 2017, 09:52:25 PM
Well, now look at it... gay people adopting babies thrown away by (presumably) straight people. Anyway, so there were actually studies and those found out that there were no negative effects? Good then. Orphans need families and allowing gay people increases the number of possible parents for them.

I think this became possible in Western countries because they got started with gay rights way earlier than others. Not sure if this tolerance will continue though, with right-wing leaders becoming more popular. This would take a long time to reach countries that currently don't allow same-sex unions. Probably at least 50 or so years after gay marriage is allowed would be the proper time to make adoption available, IMHO. That should allow time for some of the more bigoted in the population to die off first.

I really wouldn't suggest immediately allowing adoption right after same-sex marriage approval. The assholes might focus their anger on the kids instead (since they already failed to stop the parent marrying).

The main argue I've heard is that the child will fare badly as a result of it. Whether it is true or not is another question, but I think I saw a local study some time ago that gave that argument some credit. I'm on phone at the moment, so I don't really feel like trying to that study now though (and it wouldn't be in English anyway).

Personally, I am a little bit hesitant, but if it can be proven that a child growing up with parents of the same sex will have an equally good childhood as those coming from a "normal" family, then I do not see any problem with it.

The kids will only fare badly if the society their family belongs to look down on homosexual couples.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Lieldoryn on March 22, 2017, 10:11:26 PM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 22, 2017, 10:28:29 PM
A child needs money then love..If you have the 2 then all will be good with your child..

Now people could say love then money?..
Nappies clothes food shelter before love ;)

A child will suffer more because they are poor    than the parents being gay..

We in the UK don't care who your parents are as long as they hurt no one     and you are happy ;D



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: LTU_btc on March 22, 2017, 11:40:32 PM
I'm not supporter of gays. But if we live in democracy, then ok, let it go - allow gay marriage.
But I'm strongly against that they would able to adopt kids. I try to explain why:
I predict that mostly gays are from western countries. There are still many kids who are growing without parents. If gays would have right to adopt kids, these kids growing in gay family can understand it as normal thing and and they can become to be gays. In mostly European countries more people die than born, so, growing amount of gays can have negative impact for country population in long term. But, it's only my conspiracy theory.
In other case, kids who are growing in gay family can be discriminated by other kids in school.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Bitbel on March 22, 2017, 11:55:50 PM
I predict that mostly gays are from western countries.

I think thats just because gay ppl in western countries are "visible" to others. In other countries gays don't tell that they are gay and live in a heterosexual relationship because they fear reprisals.

If gays would have right to adopt kids, these kids growing in gay family can understand it as normal thing and and they can become to be gays.

Science don't have a real answer to the question why and when someone become gay. But I don't think that more ppl will become gay because they have same sex parents. I mean most gay ppl were raised in heterosexual families :D


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: dawnasor on March 23, 2017, 12:06:13 AM
In my opinion some countries are opposing same sex marriage because of their religion ,principles and their beliefs.
Even we living in democratic country they're are beliefs that we considered for.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: FlamingFingers on March 23, 2017, 12:12:05 AM

Science don't have a real answer to the question why and when someone become gay. But I don't think that more ppl will become gay because they have same sex parents. I mean most gay ppl were raised in heterosexual families :D
Some people are born homosexual, others are turned into Homosexuality due to specific circumstances (like sexual abuse in childhood). I think it's possible for a child to believe that homosexuality is a very "normal" thing, if he/she was raised in a homosexual family. He/She might grow up bisexual, but also he/she might change his/her "attitude" because of what he/she was raised to see.

Oh by the way, science might have an answer why someone becomes gay:
http://www.livescience.com/50058-being-gay-not-a-choice.html
www.sciencemag.org/.../homosexuality-may-be-caused-chemical-modifications-dna


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 23, 2017, 12:35:38 AM

Science don't have a real answer to the question why and when someone become gay. But I don't think that more ppl will become gay because they have same sex parents. I mean most gay ppl were raised in heterosexual families :D
Some people are born homosexual, others are turned into Homosexuality due to specific circumstances (like sexual abuse in childhood). I think it's possible for a child to believe that homosexuality is a very "normal" thing, if he/she was raised in a homosexual family. He/She might grow up bisexual, but also he/she might change his/her "attitude" because of what he/she was raised to see.

Oh by the way, science might have an answer why someone becomes gay:
http://www.livescience.com/50058-being-gay-not-a-choice.html
www.sciencemag.org/.../homosexuality-may-be-caused-chemical-modifications-dna
Could you tell these chaps to stop abusing the children..

Gay Lions. Homosexuality is a common trait among lions. - YouTube
Video for gay lions▶ 3:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8gttC6P3bE
5 Feb 2010 - Uploaded by TheWizardWilly
Being such social animals, homosexuality is a common thing among lions.

   Applying the term homosexual to animals
2   Research
3   Basis
3.1   Physiological basis
3.2   Genetic basis
3.3   Neurobiological basis
4   Some selected species and groups
4.1   Birds
4.1.1   Black swans
4.1.2   Gulls
4.1.3   Ibises
4.1.4   Mallards
4.1.5   Penguins
4.1.6   Vultures
4.1.7   Pigeons
4.2   Mammals
4.2.1   Amazon dolphin
4.2.2   American bison
4.2.3   Bonobo and other apes
4.2.4   Bottlenose dolphins
4.2.5   Elephants
4.2.6   Giraffes
4.2.7   Monkeys
4.2.8   Japanese macaque
4.2.9   Lions
4.2.10   Polecat
4.2.11   Sheep
4.2.12   Spotted hyena
4.3   Others
4.3.1   Lizards
4.3.2   Insects and arachnids
4.3.2.1   Dragonflies
4.3.2.2   Fruit flies
4.3.2.3   Bed bugs

ALL GAY AS A LORD :D


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: alphablitzer on March 23, 2017, 01:00:27 AM
There are a lot of people now that are gay or bisexual, and I have nothing against them, just because they are like that doesn't mean they are not human. Because I see people treating gay people like there is some trash that is not worthy of living and I strongly oppose that. Personally, I don't like seeing the man to man action (girl to girl is okay because I'm a guy, maybe that's it) but I don't want them to be treated wrongly just because they are like that and they are true to themselves.

Adoption is never a bad thing, trying to help someone else's child and that's good for them, and they assist the kid whenever they can and whatever they can offer.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: yellow1 on March 23, 2017, 01:11:31 AM
In some other countries is legal. Yet, same-sex marriage continues to be a highly debated issue that leaves our society searching for answers. Many conservative groups do NOT agree with this decision.When a person thinks about marriage, they usually think of a man and a woman. With more and more people getting married, it is all opening the door to gay marriage. No matter whom the person is, or what sex they chose to marry they should be treated the same.While adoption is a way to provide parenting care to children whose biological mothers and fathers have no opportunities or wish to take care of them..


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on March 23, 2017, 01:47:17 AM
I am against both gay marriage and adoption by gay couples. There is no meaning of performing a marriage for the gays, because they are not committed to their partners. An average homosexual (whether married or not) will be having dozens, if not hundreds of sexual partners every year. Marriage makes no difference to them. Also, gay foster-parents are much more likely to abuse children. Although they are less than 2% of the population, more than half of the sexual abuse against the children are done by the homosexuals.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 23, 2017, 03:03:47 AM
I am against the Hindus sleeping with the brothers and producing spastic children 
then my taxes are getting spent on Hindu spastic children Knowing quite well what would happen if they sleep with the brothers and first cousins ..You will most likely produce a spastic child ..
And i am the person who as to pay for it..

Now because of your dirty Hindu habits i suffer because my taxes go on paying your HINDU SPASTIC CHILD.
And most Hindus are on peanuts    they cost the me a lot in taxes to support SPASTIC HINDUS..

Now with gay people they are the inventors the creators the arts    computer scientist       geniuses
 THEY MAKE THINGS ..MAKE MONEY

A gay as cost me nothing except invented something that most people use or will use ;)..
SPASTIC HINDU   will invent nothing except take my taxes for a wheel chair..


A straight boy Hindu SLEEPS WITH THE SISTER..A GAY ONE SLEEPS WITH HIS BROTHER   :D :D.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on March 23, 2017, 03:38:28 AM
I am against the Hindus sleeping with the brothers and producing spastic children 
then my taxes are getting spent on Hindu spastic children Knowing quite well what would happen if they sleep with the brothers and first cousins ..You will most likely produce a spastic child ..
And i am the person who as to pay for it..

Now because of your dirty Hindu habits i suffer because my taxes go on paying your HINDU SPASTIC CHILD.
And most Hindus are on peanuts    they cost the me a lot in taxes to support SPASTIC HINDUS..

Now with gay people they are the inventors the creators the arts    computer scientist       geniuses
 THEY MAKE THINGS ..MAKE MONEY

A gay as cost me nothing except invented something that most people use or will use ;)..
SPASTIC HINDU   will invent nothing except take my taxes for a wheel chair..


A straight boy Hindu SLEEPS WITH THE SISTER..A GAY ONE SLEEPS WITH HIS BROTHER   :D :D.

You seems to be having an aversion to Hindus. Marriage to fist cousins is rare in Hinduism, and it is only practiced by isolated and small communities and sects. A lot of Muslim and Christian sects permit marriage to first cousins.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 23, 2017, 05:17:45 AM
I am against the Hindus sleeping with the brothers and producing spastic children  
then my taxes are getting spent on Hindu spastic children Knowing quite well what would happen if they sleep with the brothers and first cousins ..You will most likely produce a spastic child ..
And i am the person who as to pay for it..

Now because of your dirty Hindu habits i suffer because my taxes go on paying your HINDU SPASTIC CHILD.
And most Hindus are on peanuts    they cost the me a lot in taxes to support SPASTIC HINDUS..

Now with gay people they are the inventors the creators the arts    computer scientist       geniuses
 THEY MAKE THINGS ..MAKE MONEY

A gay as cost me nothing except invented something that most people use or will use ;)..
SPASTIC HINDU   will invent nothing except take my taxes for a wheel chair..


A straight boy Hindu SLEEPS WITH THE SISTER..A GAY ONE SLEEPS WITH HIS BROTHER   :D :D.

You seems to be having an aversion to Hindus. Marriage to fist cousins is rare in Hinduism, and it is only practiced by isolated and small communities and sects. A lot of Muslim and Christian sects permit marriage to first cousins.
You seems to be having an aversion to gays  FIRST. ;)
Quite common in the uk for a spastic Hindu .

It's time to confront this taboo: First cousin marriages in Muslim ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Its-time-confront-taboo-First-cousin-marriages-Muslim-com...
3 Jun 2011 - Bradford's St Luke's Hospital has seen an extraordinary rise in the ... The children are born disabled and it must cost the NHS millions of ..


COST THE  NHS  MILLIONS  MY TAXES..

BBC NEWS | Programmes | Newsnight | Your views: Cousin marriage
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4442646.stm
16 Nov 2005 - Incest is illegal in most societies. ... Yes, this is a great strain on the NHS but can also adversely affect actual lives as ... With the average age of marriage rising, rising divorce rates and .... Hindus also marry their first cousins.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: layoutph on March 23, 2017, 05:42:26 AM
For me Gay Marriage is a violation of moral rights and a violation of God's commandment. We cannot equate same sex relationship with relationship of different race or people age. It is different, its like equating weight with length.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Jacce on March 23, 2017, 05:49:10 AM
The main argue I've heard is that the child will fare badly as a result of it. Whether it is true or not is another question, but I think I saw a local study some time ago that gave that argument some credit. I'm on phone at the moment, so I don't really feel like trying to that study now though (and it wouldn't be in English anyway).

Personally, I am a little bit hesitant, but if it can be proven that a child growing up with parents of the same sex will have an equally good childhood as those coming from a "normal" family, then I do not see any problem with it.

The kids will only fare badly if the society their family belongs to look down on homosexual couples.

Yes, that is entirely true and I think that is the main issue. It is, however, a reality in many places of the world. And while it is indeed bad to punish gay people for other people's wrongdoings, the question remains whether or not we should expose the children to the prejudice and perhaps in some cases bullying that could come with having with having same sex parents.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Jacce on March 23, 2017, 05:51:08 AM
I am against both gay marriage and adoption by gay couples. There is no meaning of performing a marriage for the gays, because they are not committed to their partners. An average homosexual (whether married or not) will be having dozens, if not hundreds of sexual partners every year. Marriage makes no difference to them. Also, gay foster-parents are much more likely to abuse children. Although they are less than 2% of the population, more than half of the sexual abuse against the children are done by the homosexuals.

Have you got any source on those statements?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Mometaskers on March 23, 2017, 06:30:22 AM
I am against the Hindus sleeping with the brothers and producing spastic children 
then my taxes are getting spent on Hindu spastic children Knowing quite well what would happen if they sleep with the brothers and first cousins ..You will most likely produce a spastic child ..
And i am the person who as to pay for it..

Now because of your dirty Hindu habits i suffer because my taxes go on paying your HINDU SPASTIC CHILD.
And most Hindus are on peanuts    they cost the me a lot in taxes to support SPASTIC HINDUS..

Now with gay people they are the inventors the creators the arts    computer scientist       geniuses
 THEY MAKE THINGS ..MAKE MONEY

A gay as cost me nothing except invented something that most people use or will use ;)..
SPASTIC HINDU   will invent nothing except take my taxes for a wheel chair..


A straight boy Hindu SLEEPS WITH THE SISTER..A GAY ONE SLEEPS WITH HIS BROTHER   :D :D.

You seems to be having an aversion to Hindus. Marriage to fist cousins is rare in Hinduism, and it is only practiced by isolated and small communities and sects. A lot of Muslim and Christian sects permit marriage to first cousins.

For real? Aren't there restrictions in the law on marriage among closely-related individuals? I mean, I live in a Catholic-majority country and  the law against incest applies to relative up to the 3rd degree. I've never heard anyone trying to make exemptions based on religion. The only group that tend to cite religion for marriage exemptions, Muslim, usually use it to be allowed to marry minors rather than relatives.

I am against both gay marriage and adoption by gay couples. There is no meaning of performing a marriage for the gays, because they are not committed to their partners. An average homosexual (whether married or not) will be having dozens, if not hundreds of sexual partners every year. Marriage makes no difference to them. Also, gay foster-parents are much more likely to abuse children. Although they are less than 2% of the population, more than half of the sexual abuse against the children are done by the homosexuals.

Have you got any source on those statements?

This is like saying you won't trust your son to a gay pediatrician but you wouldn't have problems with a male gynecologist probing your wife's vagina. Your argument about multiple partners usually apply to those who have no chance of being able to marry in their country. As for extra-marital sex, it's not like straight people do not do it. Gays just tend to be more visible because they're quite open to talking about sex.  Half off all child sexual abuse are committed by homosexuals? Which study are you citing?



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: lienfaye on March 23, 2017, 07:55:02 AM
Well im not against it, everyone has their right to be happy and that is all that matter.  they are not harming us in any way so let them be happy with the life choices they make for themselves. better to mind your own life and think how you can improve yourself.  although here it is not legal to marry same sex but everyone has respect to each other.



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Tyrantt on March 23, 2017, 08:06:20 AM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.

Homosexuality exists since life exist and all animal species experience homosexuality, don't make me bring my biologist brother to argue. Also, with that argument, are all fetishes diseases?

In my opinion, I have nothing against homosexuality, their marriage or adopting children. Homosexuality is a natural thing, there's nothing wrong with it, marriage should be permited to everyone who wants to seal their relationship and love and about those adoptions, well I'd rather have a child grow up in a loving and caring family that can give them a comfortable life than growing up in a foster family or some center for children without parents. 


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: pecson134 on March 23, 2017, 09:12:42 AM
I do not condemn homosexuality as a whole and respect their preferences when it comes to gender but what I disagree with is when marriage comes in. Why is there a need for marriage if you two can live in a home together happily and have a freedom to adopt a child you want.Maybe they can consider adopting despite with couples(same sex) provided they can fund or raise the child.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: youdacapt on March 23, 2017, 09:58:42 AM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.

Homosexuality exists since life exist and all animal species experience homosexuality, don't make me bring my biologist brother to argue. Also, with that argument, are all fetishes diseases?

In my opinion, I have nothing against homosexuality, their marriage or adopting children. Homosexuality is a natural thing, there's nothing wrong with it, marriage should be permited to everyone who wants to seal their relationship and love and about those adoptions, well I'd rather have a child grow up in a loving and caring family that can give them a comfortable life than growing up in a foster family or some center for children without parents.  

Disease is meant is a deviant sexual orientation. It's feared that if these people grow up and even managed to control percentage of world civilization, human total regeneration will be in great danger of extinction. Parenting is also likely to provide a psychological effect, they will follow what adoptive parents they do with lifestyle of the same sexual deviations.

I agree with state that legalized same-sex marriage to equality of life, but it should be understood again that in future this this will be a very serious conflict of interest in civilization.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 23, 2017, 10:09:05 AM
Half off all child sexual abuse are committed by homosexuals? Which study are you citing?

There is some truth in that, but the mainstream media as usual hides all these facts. And anyone stating the truth will be immediately branded as a homophobe. Check this:

http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/
https://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3

1/3rd of all the sexual crimes against children are committed by homosexuals. And here we have a population group which is just 1% to 3% of the general population committing an astounding 33% of all the child sex assaults.



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: xvids on March 23, 2017, 10:23:38 AM
Well to be honest I don't really mind if they get married or not,
As long as it would not affect me I wouldn't really care about it,
I mean why should we get affected by this issue if we know for our selves that we are straight,


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bitmakerBR on March 23, 2017, 12:22:31 PM
For me, homosexuality is disgusting and unacceptable, this is a distortion of reality, it's like sailing against the current. God created man and woman so that they complement each other, instead of two same-sex beings.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: cramcram21 on March 23, 2017, 01:08:56 PM
Well for my own opinion I don't really like the idea but as long as they wouldn't bother me,
And it would not affect me I would just leave them and I wouldn't mind them.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Xester on March 23, 2017, 01:15:51 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

Allowing homosexuals to be married and even allowing them to adopt children that soon will also become abnormal like them isn't healthy at all. Being a homosexual is having a behavior and psychological problem, this is an abnormality that must be settled instead of being encouraged. This behavior must be stopped since there are only two kinds of people in the world which is male and female and homosexuals were just people having a behavioral problem.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: olubams on March 23, 2017, 01:42:33 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

Children born are 'innocently' without any idea. It is the society that shape their thinking into a particular direction as to what is good and what is bad. The same thing with racism. I personally dont have any issue with adoption afterall there are so many kids in the world that have no one to care for them. The problem will arise if they are now been subjected to inhumane treatment. The problem is not whether one is raised by straight or homosexuals, its a matter of the individual doing the raising up...


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: FlamingFingers on March 23, 2017, 02:13:50 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

Allowing homosexuals to be married and even allowing them to adopt children that soon will also become abnormal like them isn't healthy at all. Being a homosexual is having a behavior and psychological problem, this is an abnormality that must be settled instead of being encouraged. This behavior must be stopped since there are only two kinds of people in the world which is male and female and homosexuals were just people having a behavioral problem.

You think being homosexual is abnormal?  What about 11% of sheep that are homosexual?  It is very natural in the animal kingdom.  Last time I checked we are mammals.

I'm not sure what is your problem with homosexuality.  Are you a closet gay yourself?  You envy them?

I am as straight guy as they come, guns, trucks and women with big tits is what makes me happy, and I don't have problems with gays.  Why would I?  I think some of the drama queens are over the top, still very funny.
Anal sex is kinda gross to me no matter who does it, straight or gay, but that is what people do for fun, let them do it.
They are doing it not you, so what is the problem?  You want to join but your wife won't let you take her from the back door?

Let them raise kids, if they care and love them, the kids will be better off than in a family of straight, alcoholic couple.

And do sheep have a brain like yours?
People should stop acting like animals. -_-


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: ilovefeetsmell on March 23, 2017, 02:17:49 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?
Same-sex(gay, man to man) marriage is not yet allowed in my country. My country considered that this is one factor of being a sinner. God created man and woman only so you must attract the opposite sex. Marriage has always been a covenant, contract or even an agreement between a man and a woman which is by its pure ordain toward the procreation and education of children. Same-sex marriage violates the natural law, cutting edge of the sexual revolution, offends God as what I've said earlier, and doesn't create a true family.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: rajasumi3 on March 23, 2017, 02:49:41 PM
I sometimes why some one s birth is a crime .god gifted them to be what they are . In other countries where same gender marriage is illegal because they talk only about religion which does not permit them.
Child adoption is a great thing and i believe that the children would get the same love from their non biological parents also.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 23, 2017, 03:12:39 PM
Half off all child sexual abuse are committed by homosexuals? Which study are you citing?

There is some truth in that, but the mainstream media as usual hides all these facts. And anyone stating the truth will be immediately branded as a homophobe. Check this:

http://www.wnd.com/2002/04/13722/
https://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3

1/3rd of all the sexual crimes against children are committed by homosexuals. And here we have a population group which is just 1% to 3% of the general population committing an astounding 33% of all the child sex assaults.


Your facts are bullshit ;)..
When a 11 year old boy gets abused by a 35 year old women  that 11 year old would never tell ;)..
HE BE MADE UP HE PUMPED A 35 YEAR OLD ;)..

You do know people hate gays because they been told to..

Like a Muslim women will feel more shame showing her hair than showing her beaver..
Because she been told to be ashamed of her hair..

See i always find it strange when a Muslim women shows her beaver while wearing a head scarf..
But each to his own i say..

Also i forgot to mention   that's why the men go crazy if a women doesn't wear her head scarf..
Because they been told too..


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sundark on March 23, 2017, 03:35:35 PM
World was perfectly fine place when we didn't have gay marriages and adoption. Answer this one question:
would like to be raised by a pair of gays/lesbians yourself? Would you like that for your own child (in case you and your family would die)?

And please don't spout the nonsense about homosexual goats, horses, sheep or whatever animal you can think of.
We are talking about humans here.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: darkseid1199 on March 23, 2017, 03:39:44 PM
I think adoption of children should be strictly limited to couples of different sexes, I will continue to support this decision until same sex couples have the ability to give birth naturally.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 23, 2017, 04:32:07 PM
World was perfectly fine place when we didn't have gay marriages and adoption. Answer this one question:
would like to be raised by a pair of gays/lesbians yourself? Would you like that for your own child (in case you and your family would die)?

And please don't spout the nonsense about homosexual goats, horses, sheep or whatever animal you can think of.
We are talking about humans here.

Well if you think about it you are a goat :D..
You see that's how i see you like a goat ;)..

Don't be offended it's just SCIENCE ..I don't believe in zap and there was a human.

Oh and also i might look at you like a plant..Sorry it's just the science curious in my body.

But i suppose you will hate me for being science curious ..


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 23, 2017, 04:50:52 PM
World was perfectly fine place when we didn't have gay marriages and adoption. Answer this one question:
would like to be raised by a pair of gays/lesbians yourself? Would you like that for your own child (in case you and your family would die)?

And please don't spout the nonsense about homosexual goats, horses, sheep or whatever animal you can think of.
We are talking about humans here.

Also you talk about WELL HUMANS ARE NOT ANIMALS ..As if to say we are better than animals?..

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A HUMAN IS AN ASS HOLE COMPARED TO A SO CALLED ANIMAL ..

Maybe we should call humans animals and animals humans..JOKE BY THE WAY ;)..BUT TRUE


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: jaceefrost on March 23, 2017, 05:01:25 PM
World was perfectly fine place when we didn't have gay marriages and adoption. Answer this one question:
would like to be raised by a pair of gays/lesbians yourself? Would you like that for your own child (in case you and your family would die)?
Would you rather see a child to grow up without a family? That's what happens to childrens who were orphaned by their heterosexual parents and are not being adopt.
How is being raised with two dads and or two moms so unfavorable than a child being raised with no parents?

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And please don't spout the nonsense about homosexual goats, horses, sheep or whatever animal you can think of.
We are talking about humans here.

Humans are supperior than any animals but only humans have this hatred against their own.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: RJX on March 23, 2017, 06:12:56 PM
Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

I am not against it. I think sexual preference of the parent does not have to interfere with or obstruct in raising a child.

If it does, whatever the preference may be, then the parent is unfit.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on March 24, 2017, 10:39:41 AM
Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

I am not against it. I think sexual preference of the parent does not have to interfere with or obstruct in raising a child.

If it does, whatever the preference may be, then the parent is unfit.

I am not much bothered about what they do in their bedrooms. But it is a proven fact that the homosexuals are much more likely to abuse children, when compared to the heterosexual parents. My objection against gays adopting children arises from this issue.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Lutheriusourexi on March 24, 2017, 11:37:43 AM
Gay Marriage and legal is bad information


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: dark_pride on March 24, 2017, 11:51:16 AM
From the physical point of view, there is nothing wrong with this if the parents do not use violence against children. And from an energetic point of view, homosexual couples can not fully nurture and nurture a child with energy, he gets a distorted view of nature.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: prayogi on March 24, 2017, 11:54:38 AM
Why did God create man and woman ??? Why is there a gay marriage, then it's useless God created men and women when they do not follow the rules Creation  western country already are allowed to marry same-sex or gay fortunately in my country was banned because my country has followed the existing rules


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: RJX on March 24, 2017, 12:11:58 PM
Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

I am not against it. I think sexual preference of the parent does not have to interfere with or obstruct in raising a child.

If it does, whatever the preference may be, then the parent is unfit.

I am not much bothered about what they do in their bedrooms. But it is a proven fact that the homosexuals are much more likely to abuse children, when compared to the heterosexual parents. My objection against gays adopting children arises from this issue.

You mean homosexuals in general or homosexual parents that are more likely to abuse their children?

Either way, could you provide some link to this proven fact as you call it?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: gabmen on March 24, 2017, 12:31:12 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

well personally i don't have anything against union between gay people. Though i think marriage is supposed to be for men and women only because it's was intended that way ever since. Gay couple can get civil unions adn share properties much like normal wedded couple but i think church weddings should be specifically made for the opposite sex, Much respect though for the LGBT people.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: jhenfelipe on March 24, 2017, 01:37:56 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?
They based their decision on what's written in the Bible. Personally, I don't have a problem with the marriage, I mean, I'm not against nor in favor. It's just that I want to respect them. I'm always putting my feet on the shoes of others. It's really hard, we can't really control our feelings (maybe we can endure it if we try but we won't be 100% happy). In regards with the adoption, imo a problem will occur when the child go to school, might be bullied about his parents' status (still depends on the situation).  ???


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: J Gambler on March 24, 2017, 02:02:49 PM
Here in my country our president already considered it they only loved once and they will enjoyed their lives with there partners Im not againts with Gay marriage as long as they don't give me problem or they don't hurting someone gay are good and more appreciatable than women.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Dem-artini on March 24, 2017, 06:19:29 PM
Here in my country our president already considered it they only loved once and they will enjoyed their lives with there partners Im not againts with Gay marriage as long as they don't give me problem or they don't hurting someone gay are good and more appreciatable than women.
I see that same-sex marriages and relationships are appearing more and more in the media, in films and other information. Why do I do not understand. In my country, a gay couple is a lever for political pressure on my country. Therefore, I am ambiguous about this issue.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Hazir on March 24, 2017, 06:42:24 PM
World was perfectly fine place when we didn't have gay marriages and adoption. Answer this one question:
would like to be raised by a pair of gays/lesbians yourself? Would you like that for your own child (in case you and your family would die)?
Would you rather see a child to grow up without a family? That's what happens to childrens who were orphaned by their heterosexual parents and are not being adopt.
How is being raised with two dads and or two moms so unfavorable than a child being raised with no parents?
Why should be choose lesser evil in this case? It is unfair if you present it from the perspective that we either:
choose gay people or let the child be alone, unloved by anyone. I would rather see a child to be taken care by a loving family of man and woman if possible.
I am not a expert on determining what is the cause of homosexuality, I don't know if it is in our blood since birth or it is learned - but what if it is the latter?
And by allowing gay couples to adopt children you are potentially create good base for child to adopt behavioral patterns of their parents?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: erikalui on March 24, 2017, 06:57:00 PM
In India, surrogacy has been banned as it was forcing poor woman into this just so that homosexual parents could get children of their own. I feel that it should be legal but I see many westernized countries also banning adoption and making it difficult for homosexual parents to adopt children. In Muslim countries, it's considered a sin and hence there is a death punishment but it's wrong to dominate people who are homosexual and not letting them live the life they want. Many feel they can't be good parents but I don't feel it's true.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bitmakerBR on March 24, 2017, 07:33:53 PM
In my opinion, such marriages are unnatural. Nature is conceived so that man and woman can create a family, otherwise there should not be. In a morally healthy society such things can not exist.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: HatakeKakashi on March 24, 2017, 11:44:45 PM
Here in my country our president already considered it they only loved once and they will enjoyed their lives with there partners Im not againts with Gay marriage as long as they don't give me problem or they don't hurting someone gay are good and more appreciatable than women.
Agree with you sir j gambler . As long as the gay they don't give problem to us or to you or they dont hurt someone I dont see any problems of this. Yes gay are good and funny. I have a friend gay its very lovable person and gay are always industrious and be do all for their family and their friends. Other cluntry accept gay and my country also accept the third sex.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 25, 2017, 12:11:06 AM
Women BISHOPS so according to god THE CHURCH IS GOING TO HELL ..
So everyone in the church will burn forever..
No i don't think this YOUR GOD DOES .

So now that your all going to hell    what's the difference in gay marriage ?..

WOMEN BISHOP = GAY MARRIAGE = GOING TO HELL :D. 


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: iamTom123 on March 25, 2017, 02:11:16 AM
This is a very tricky issue and on my part we all have our own opinion and ideas on the matter. Personally, I believe that whatever your sexual orientation maybe we all have the same rights under the law. However, I don't wish that people can be homosexual because being one is never easy and though many may appear to be happy deep inside there is that longing or that little emptiness that can never be fulfilled no matter what a gay person will do. I do consider homosexuality just like anything in life to be a trial...anyway our whole life is a big trial.

As to adoption rights, I think anybody can adopt and if the one adopting can prove that he can care for the child then let it be. Compared to have them left on the streets, being adopted by a gay couple can be better.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 25, 2017, 04:34:59 AM
In my opinion, such marriages are unnatural. Nature is conceived so that man and woman can create a family, otherwise there should not be. In a morally healthy society such things can not exist.
What if a straight couple have no children is that unnatural ?.
Plenty out there who like children    but like to hand them back..

healthy society such things can not exist.^^^    so people who don't want children shouldn't exist?
 
A gay man or women can still have biological children ..



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on March 25, 2017, 05:07:54 AM
In India, surrogacy has been banned as it was forcing poor woman into this just so that homosexual parents could get children of their own. I feel that it should be legal but I see many westernized countries also banning adoption and making it difficult for homosexual parents to adopt children. In Muslim countries, it's considered a sin and hence there is a death punishment but it's wrong to dominate people who are homosexual and not letting them live the life they want. Many feel they can't be good parents but I don't feel it's true.

The ban on surrogacy was a wrong move. The women were getting good income, and it helped many of them to purchase their own houses and agricultural plots. Now once again, they will be pushed in to poverty.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: chrisivl on March 25, 2017, 05:50:46 AM
In India, surrogacy has been banned as it was forcing poor woman into this just so that homosexual parents could get children of their own. I feel that it should be legal but I see many westernized countries also banning adoption and making it difficult for homosexual parents to adopt children. In Muslim countries, it's considered a sin and hence there is a death punishment but it's wrong to dominate people who are homosexual and not letting them live the life they want. Many feel they can't be good parents but I don't feel it's true.

The ban on surrogacy was a wrong move. The women were getting good income, and it helped many of them to purchase their own houses and agricultural plots. Now once again, they will be pushed in to poverty.
From the moral point of view, I'm very bad about this kind of earnings, but I still understand that this is a chance for other parents to have their children. Although this does not apply to gay couples. Here I still do not know what to say. I'm not sure how it relates to them.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: jems on March 25, 2017, 09:14:23 AM
i think Parents have do and teach proper moral in their son childhood but  anyone can't predict the future for me homosexual or gay is not control by people is a nature that anyone can be a homosexual . in bible their is a verse that say gay or homosexual is sin but i can't truly imagine becuse God created as with own image. and in gay marriage im not agree for that why? because i predict that virus like aids is exist .


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Tyrantt on March 25, 2017, 09:41:43 AM
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And do sheep have a brain like yours?
People should stop acting like animals. -_-

Humans are animals just like any other animal on this planet. We can't stop "acting " like animals, even tho we've evolved, there will always be something that will awake our primal instinct. You just can't go against nature.

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Same-sex(gay, man to man) marriage is not yet allowed in my country. My country considered that this is one factor of being a sinner. God created man and woman only so you must attract the opposite sex. Marriage has always been a covenant, contract or even an agreement between a man and a woman which is by its pure ordain toward the procreation and education of children. Same-sex marriage violates the natural law, cutting edge of the sexual revolution, offends God as what I've said earlier, and doesn't create a true family.

So the church is saying that? The church and gods were invented by humans, before that there were a lot of animals with homosexual behavior, so how can you say it's not natural when that's the nature itself 100%?

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in bible their is a verse that say gay or homosexual is sin but i can't truly imagine becuse God created as with own image. and in gay marriage im not agree for that why? because i predict that virus like aids is exist .

There's a lot of things in bible that's completely stupid yet  no one if following those but they all pick out the ones that suite them and that's it. That's really similar to evolution. Just like homosexuality, aids is a completely natural thing. just becuse something is "bad" doesn't mean it's not natural.



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: RJX on March 25, 2017, 10:14:10 AM
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And do sheep have a brain like yours?
People should stop acting like animals. -_-

Humans are animals just like any other animal on this planet. We can't stop "acting " like animals, even tho we've evolved, there will always be something that will awake our primal instinct. You just can't go against nature.


What if this nature is programmed as well?

Considering nature is barest backbone, no pun intended, of life on this planet, and considering there are scores of folk going against this nature as a (their) natural reaction, could one argue that our perception of nature may be in the same categorie as how, for example, the church views traditions regarding marriage? As in barking up the wrong tree?

I mean nature dictates that procreation of man requires a man and a woman. what if there is another way for a human being to preserve humankind?

I'm not suggesting buttholesex is the awnser, but it might be an indication trying to tell us that there are other, better?, ways to evolve as a species.



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bra4our on March 25, 2017, 10:27:17 AM
I strongly am against adoption for Gay couples, What kind of environment will the Child be raised in, I think if they really need a child then they should get a surrogate mother for that they could ms their sperms and the one with strong sperms wins or they can go for twins rather.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: darkseid1199 on March 25, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
I for one am against Gay Marriage or anything gayish for that matter, Why do Humans do thing that even animals dont even consider at all. Now the law wants to shove it down our throat to accept it by force, If someone has the right to be Gay then i also have the right to be against Gayism. The movie industry is also doing their best for the populace to accept it as well, Making lots of characters as gay, There seem to be a gay character in almost every TV show now.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Kemarit on March 25, 2017, 11:53:13 AM
I strongly am against adoption for Gay couples, What kind of environment will the Child be raised in, I think if they really need a child then they should get a surrogate mother for that they could ms their sperms and the one with strong sperms wins or they can go for twins rather.

We all know that a mother or a father is needed when we are growing up. The father figure has help reduce antisocial behavior and delinquency in boys and sexual activity in girls. While mothers are there to provide children with emotional security and in reading the physical and emotional cues of infants. So children raised by homosexuals are more likely to experience gender and sexual disorders when growing up. For me, children who are raised in a same-sex marriage environment are likely to grow either a lesbian or gay.




Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Alexzap on March 25, 2017, 12:02:57 PM
In India, surrogacy has been banned as it was forcing poor woman into this just so that homosexual parents could get children of their own. I feel that it should be legal but I see many westernized countries also banning adoption and making it difficult for homosexual parents to adopt children. In Muslim countries, it's considered a sin and hence there is a death punishment but it's wrong to dominate people who are homosexual and not letting them live the life they want. Many feel they can't be good parents but I don't feel it's true.

The ban on surrogacy was a wrong move. The women were getting good income, and it helped many of them to purchase their own houses and agricultural plots. Now once again, they will be pushed in to poverty.
From the moral point of view, I'm very bad about this kind of earnings, but I still understand that this is a chance for other parents to have their children. Although this does not apply to gay couples. Here I still do not know what to say. I'm not sure how it relates to them.
In India the control of fertility is of great importance because there is an overpopulation. As for gay marriage I find it unacceptable. This is sick in the head people and they should not be allowed to raise children.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: rokkiBalboa on March 25, 2017, 02:09:03 PM
I strongly am against adoption for Gay couples, What kind of environment will the Child be raised in, I think if they really need a child then they should get a surrogate mother for that they could ms their sperms and the one with strong sperms wins or they can go for twins rather.

We all know that a mother or a father is needed when we are growing up. The father figure has help reduce antisocial behavior and delinquency in boys and sexual activity in girls. While mothers are there to provide children with emotional security and in reading the physical and emotional cues of infants. So children raised by homosexuals are more likely to experience gender and sexual disorders when growing up. For me, children who are raised in a same-sex marriage environment are likely to grow either a lesbian or gay.




Right. Such couples can not raise children, because they will not properly educate them. And it's not even about upbringing, but the fact that young children will take an example from their parents and there is a high probability that they will become unconventional. If it gains in scale, then in a few years humanity can die out.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: The_prodigy on March 25, 2017, 02:40:24 PM
Bisexual marriage is not bad but for those who thinks that this is bad because is in the bible it says that the only god created is men and women but once we hit loved we can't stop it they don't care what other will say because of that loved to both of you gay are good when thinking about the future guy already know how to love another gay haha.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: youdacapt on March 25, 2017, 03:17:48 PM
Bisexual marriage is not bad but for those who thinks that this is bad because is in the bible it says that the only god created is men and women but once we hit loved we can't stop it they don't care what other will say because of that loved to both of you gay are good when thinking about the future guy already know how to love another gay haha.

Continue and validating legally aberrant sexual orientation through formal wedding can be justified, but don't form community on large scale because this is the wrong way. This disease will continue to grow as it continues to invite others to join.

Many gay and lesbian community will effectively reduce the impact blasting on total population of a country, yet their crime rate will be more brutal, if a gay or lesbian lover was jealous, they tend to have uncontrolled emotions even many killings arising from this case.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: PowerWalletDotCom on March 25, 2017, 04:39:09 PM
Bisexual marriage is not bad but for those who thinks that this is bad because is in the bible it says that the only god created is men and women but once we hit loved we can't stop it they don't care what other will say because of that loved to both of you gay are good when thinking about the future guy already know how to love another gay haha.

It is not the bible, but the laws of nature. A man from a man can not give birth to a child as well as a woman from a woman, respectively, they can not create a full-fledged family. They are simply mistaken in the true nature of man.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: peter0425 on March 25, 2017, 05:28:25 PM
Bisexual marriage is not bad but for those who thinks that this is bad because is in the bible it says that the only god created is men and women but once we hit loved we can't stop it they don't care what other will say because of that loved to both of you gay are good when thinking about the future guy already know how to love another gay haha.

It is not the bible, but the laws of nature. A man from a man can not give birth to a child as well as a woman from a woman, respectively, they can not create a full-fledged family. They are simply mistaken in the true nature of man.

Right. Its the Natural Law. Religious beliefs have nothing to do with it. Marriage is the long-honored term for the union of one man and one woman.
So I'm against it. And as what the poster above said, parents should set a example to their kids, but how can they do that if they are both of the same sex? If the children needs a father figure to help him while growing up, who he gonna talk to? Can I gay parents advice him especially if he is courting a girl?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 25, 2017, 05:48:25 PM
Bisexual marriage is not bad but for those who thinks that this is bad because is in the bible it says that the only god created is men and women but once we hit loved we can't stop it they don't care what other will say because of that loved to both of you gay are good when thinking about the future guy already know how to love another gay haha.

It is not the bible, but the laws of nature. A man from a man can not give birth to a child as well as a woman from a woman, respectively, they can not create a full-fledged family. They are simply mistaken in the true nature of man.

Some people will argue that homosexuality is very common in the nature. It is not. Gay behavior is extremely rare among the animals, including humans. Still, the LGBT lobbyists will quote some biased study from some little known researcher, to claim that up to 10% or 12% of the animals are gay. I have a very simple question for you. Have you ever witnessed any animal (wild or domestic) engaging in gay sex? Because I have not.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 25, 2017, 06:35:00 PM
Bisexual marriage is not bad but for those who thinks that this is bad because is in the bible it says that the only god created is men and women but once we hit loved we can't stop it they don't care what other will say because of that loved to both of you gay are good when thinking about the future guy already know how to love another gay haha.

It is not the bible, but the laws of nature. A man from a man can not give birth to a child as well as a woman from a woman, respectively, they can not create a full-fledged family. They are simply mistaken in the true nature of man.

Some people will argue that homosexuality is very common in the nature. It is not. Gay behavior is extremely rare among the animals, including humans. Still, the LGBT lobbyists will quote some biased study from some little known researcher, to claim that up to 10% or 12% of the animals are gay. I have a very simple question for you. Have you ever witnessed any animal (wild or domestic) engaging in gay sex? Because I have not.
8 out of 10 times   your post are always wrong ;).

A gay cupbearer on Mount Olympus? Male lovers in the Trojan War? While tolerance is often presented as a sign of civilization’s progress, a reading of Greek mythology reveals greater acceptance of homosexuality in ancient Athens than can be seen within today’s world religions. These LGBT Greek gods and demigods prove gay culture is no modern invention. Above: Antonio Verrio, The Gods on Mount Olympus  (1690-1694)

Zeus
While a famous philanderer who sired countless demigods by every peasant girl in need of an explanation to her parents, Zeus famously selected the young mortal Ganymede to serve as his cupbearer on Mount Olympus. The relationship provided the foundation of the custom of paiderastia, the practice of Greek men at the time maintaining erotic relationships with adolescent boys on the side. Above: Zeus and Ganymede, artist and date unknown.

Narcissus
A figure mostly known for his obsessive vanity, this son of a nymph and a river god would spend his last days gazing at his own reflection, but the first man he showed affection for was not himself. A myth traced in origin to the Boeotia region mentions a relationship between Narcissus and the smitten Ameinias, whom Narcissus would eventually grow tired of before sending him a sword as a kiss-off. Ameinias, desperately depressed over the rejection, killed himself. Above: Jean-George Vibert, Narcissus

ALL HAVE HAD GAY RELATIONSHIPS ..

Achilles and Patroclus[11]
Achilles and Troilus[12]
Agamemnon and Argynnus[13]
Agathaidas and Phalanthus[14]
Ameinias and Narcissus[11]
Apollo and Hyacinth[15]
Apollo and Hymenaios[15]
Chrysippus and Laius[16]
Daphnis and Pan[17]
Dionysus and Ampelus[17]
Dionysus and Prosymnus[18]
Euryalus and Nisus[19]

Heracles and Abderus
Heracles and Hylas[17]
Heracles and Iolaus[16]
Hermes and Krokus
Ianthe and Iphis[20][21]
Poseidon and Pelops[15]
Polyeidos and Glaucus[22]
Orpheus and the Thracians[16]
Orpheus and Kalais[16]
Apollo/Silvanus and Cyparissus[23]
Zeus (Artemis) and Callisto[24]
Zeus and Ganymede[4]

ALL GAY AS A BISHOP ^..

I Told you why they started hating gayness..

Makes weak soldiers ..They end up sleeping with each other on long battles ..
Then they would worry more about the lover than the team..
No good in the army having your lover in the same team..MAN or WOMEN.

I would take no notice of  bryant.coleman  he as no clue what he talks about :D


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 25, 2017, 06:49:10 PM
I have a very simple question for you. Have you ever witnessed any animal (wild or domestic) engaging in gay sex? Because I have not.

Well here you go you can see it for yourself GAY ANIMALS in action.

10 Animals With Homosexual Tendencies - YouTube
Video for gay animals▶ 10:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZFjBg8y6iQ
29 Aug 2016 - Uploaded by World 5 List
These animals are sometimes gay and proud of it! All the animals in this list have homosexual tendencies ...

gay animals - YouTube
Video for gay animals▶ 2:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE0e0hCb7ME
10 Mar 2009 - Uploaded by trlandol
amimala are gay too.



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Japan_peopleffs on March 25, 2017, 07:05:37 PM
Bisexual marriage is not bad but for those who thinks that this is bad because is in the bible it says that the only god created is men and women but once we hit loved we can't stop it they don't care what other will say because of that loved to both of you gay are good when thinking about the future guy already know how to love another gay haha.

It is not the bible, but the laws of nature. A man from a man can not give birth to a child as well as a woman from a woman, respectively, they can not create a full-fledged family. They are simply mistaken in the true nature of man.

Some people will argue that homosexuality is very common in the nature. It is not. Gay behavior is extremely rare among the animals, including humans. Still, the LGBT lobbyists will quote some biased study from some little known researcher, to claim that up to 10% or 12% of the animals are gay. I have a very simple question for you. Have you ever witnessed any animal (wild or domestic) engaging in gay sex? Because I have not.

I have not seen animals in gay sex, but I've heard. But this is just sex, not the creation of a family with the adoption of a child. In nature, the male together with the male does not bring up the cubs.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: squatz1 on March 25, 2017, 07:21:08 PM
I don't see an issue with gays going ahead and adoption children but I'd just like them to go through the same checks in which straight parents would be going through in order to adopt, same type of requirement and so on and I'd be perfectly fine with it.

I don't see the argument of the children being in danger or not being able to get the same sort of childhood if their parents are gay, that jut doesn't make sense in the least.

I strongly am against adoption for Gay couples, What kind of environment will the Child be raised in, I think if they really need a child then they should get a surrogate mother for that they could ms their sperms and the one with strong sperms wins or they can go for twins rather.

People still say even to this day that even in a gay marriage there are two people and one of them will be taking the more or less dad role and the other one takes the mothering role. SO, they'd still be able to get through that without issue.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: The_prodigy on March 25, 2017, 07:30:10 PM
Bisexual marriage is not bad but for those who thinks that this is bad because is in the bible it says that the only god created is men and women but once we hit loved we can't stop it they don't care what other will say because of that loved to both of you gay are good when thinking about the future guy already know how to love another gay haha.

It is not the bible, but the laws of nature. A man from a man can not give birth to a child as well as a woman from a woman, respectively, they can not create a full-fledged family. They are simply mistaken in the true nature of man.
They can fix the law if they really want to if goverment support gay or lgbt community it will be legalize around the world. they can adopt child docoments is needed if they had money to give all the needs you can't stop the loved that had been made off.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 25, 2017, 07:52:11 PM
Bisexual marriage is not bad but for those who thinks that this is bad because is in the bible it says that the only god created is men and women but once we hit loved we can't stop it they don't care what other will say because of that loved to both of you gay are good when thinking about the future guy already know how to love another gay haha.

It is not the bible, but the laws of nature. A man from a man can not give birth to a child as well as a woman from a woman, respectively, they can not create a full-fledged family. They are simply mistaken in the true nature of man.
They can fix the law if they really want to if goverment support gay or lgbt community it will be legalize around the world. they can adopt child docoments is needed if they had money to give all the needs you can't stop the loved that had been made off.

If the government wants to support the LGBT community, then it is fine. But I am not OK with the government equating the relationship between two gay people to a marital relationship between a man and a woman. These two are not the same, and I am afraid that the homosexuals are demanding this just to get the welfare payments and tax breaks.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 25, 2017, 08:21:25 PM
Bisexual marriage is not bad but for those who thinks that this is bad because is in the bible it says that the only god created is men and women but once we hit loved we can't stop it they don't care what other will say because of that loved to both of you gay are good when thinking about the future guy already know how to love another gay haha.

It is not the bible, but the laws of nature. A man from a man can not give birth to a child as well as a woman from a woman, respectively, they can not create a full-fledged family. They are simply mistaken in the true nature of man.

Some people will argue that homosexuality is very common in the nature. It is not. Gay behavior is extremely rare among the animals, including humans. Still, the LGBT lobbyists will quote some biased study from some little known researcher, to claim that up to 10% or 12% of the animals are gay. I have a very simple question for you. Have you ever witnessed any animal (wild or domestic) engaging in gay sex? Because I have not.

I have not seen animals in gay sex, but I've heard. But this is just sex, not the creation of a family with the adoption of a child. In nature, the male together with the male does not bring up the cubs.
Most animals never even see their parents! Many never meet their fathers and some never meet their mothers, either. Some insects, fish, amphibians and reptiles hatch from fertilized eggs and face life completely alone. When animals are raised by parents, it's most often the mother who does the rearing. But we found some unusual animal dads.

Penguin: A father Emperor penguin withstands the Antarctic cold for 60 days or more to protect his eggs, which he keeps on his feet, covered with a feathered flap. During this entire time he doesn't eat a thing. Most father penguins lose about 25 pounds
Gay Penguins Make the Best Parents - YouTube
Video for gay penguins▶ 1:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc_XUTDzo78
9 Jun 2014 - Uploaded by Animalist
A gay penguin couple in a UK zoo has done a great job raising a penguin chick from birth. ..


Duck: Most male ducks live as bachelors, but the ruddy duck of North America helps care for his young.
Video for gay ducks▶ 0:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYAte1RqC4Y
15 Apr 2012 - Uploaded by StalwartFixer
Two male mallard ducks mating with each other.


Monkey: Marmosets are tiny South American monkeys. The fathers take care of their babies from birth. When the marmoset is born, the father cleans it, then carries it to the mother only when it needs to be nursed. When the baby can eat solid food, the father will feed it.
Gay monkeys! - YouTube
Video for gay monkeys▶ 0:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LYOERmsMHE
5 Mar 2012 - Uploaded by Abid Miah


Sea horse: The male sea horse has a pouch in which the mother lays her eggs. The father then looks after the eggs for about two months, until they hatch and leave the pouch. He continues to protect the young until they are able to live on their own.
gay seahorses - YouTube
Video for gay seahorse▶ 0:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sods4LQs0xY
8 May 2015 - ...


See even gay animals can adopt  ;).



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: molsewid on March 25, 2017, 08:42:58 PM
Government should accept the fact that gay is belong to our community they should accept or create a law that gay community will be accept and will be legal in every country where gay lives. Gay community are beginning to grow maybe 10% of people around the world are gay. How those gay that don't have money and wanting to marriage?? They will go to country where gay are allowed to married?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: kreskko on March 25, 2017, 09:22:56 PM
Government should accept the fact that gay is belong to our community they should accept or create a law that gay community will be accept and will be legal in every country where gay lives. Gay community are beginning to grow maybe 10% of people around the world are gay. How those gay that don't have money and wanting to marriage?? They will go to country where gay are allowed to married?
If to base themselves on democratic thinking, then this is really so, and society should perceive these people as they are. But take into account how the adopted children will be brought up and how their psyche will be broken if they have same-sex couples in their eyes.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: dark_pride on March 26, 2017, 07:49:55 AM
World was perfectly fine place when we didn't have gay marriages and adoption. Answer this one question:
would like to be raised by a pair of gays/lesbians yourself? Would you like that for your own child (in case you and your family would die)?

And please don't spout the nonsense about homosexual goats, horses, sheep or whatever animal you can think of.
We are talking about humans here.


My parents were of traditional orientation and I am glad of this, I would be disgusted to grow up in a gay family. I do not want my children to be brought up by gays. This is unnatural and disgusting >:(


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on March 26, 2017, 01:40:41 PM
Government should accept the fact that gay is belong to our community they should accept or create a law that gay community will be accept and will be legal in every country where gay lives. Gay community are beginning to grow maybe 10% of people around the world are gay. How those gay that don't have money and wanting to marriage?? They will go to country where gay are allowed to married?

Even in the Western nations, where the percentage of the homosexual population is higher than the average, the estimates range from around 1% to 2%. In other nations such as China, Russia and Saudi Arabia, this number may be much lower. From where did you got the 10% figure?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: chixka000 on March 26, 2017, 01:49:48 PM
I also do not agree with same sex mirage but i dont think that it would be a problem for me as long as i respect them even if i do not agree to what are they doing


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: PowerWalletDotCom on March 26, 2017, 06:18:05 PM
It is better for them to create a separate country, so as not to interfere with normal living and not spoil their children's upbringing. They are already full in the media already. I would not want to have such parents.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 26, 2017, 06:36:14 PM
It is better for them to create a separate country, so as not to interfere with normal living and not spoil their children's upbringing. They are already full in the media already. I would not want to have such parents.

This is the best solution. The LGBT activists are harassing normal heterosexual families with help from corrupt officials such as Brad Avakian, and in due time, this is going to provoke a very strong backlash from the people. It will be better for all the homosexuals to establish their own country (perhaps in Sweden or Saudi Arabia, the nations with the largest number of gays).


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Tyrantt on March 26, 2017, 11:37:38 PM
It is better for them to create a separate country, so as not to interfere with normal living and not spoil their children's upbringing. They are already full in the media already. I would not want to have such parents.

This is the best solution. The LGBT activists are harassing normal heterosexual families with help from corrupt officials such as Brad Avakian, and in due time, this is going to provoke a very strong backlash from the people. It will be better for all the homosexuals to establish their own country (perhaps in Sweden or Saudi Arabia, the nations with the largest number of gays).

Those homosexuals that are harassing everyone, have nothing to do with the regular gay people. Of all gay, regular, peopel that I've talked to, no one wants those pride parades or any special treatment. Don't put those two groups in the same basket. The one that are pushing non stop are activists that are getting payed to do that, regular gay people don't give two sihts about those pride parades and whatnot, also 80% of all the people on those parades are heterosexual.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: criptix on March 26, 2017, 11:44:03 PM
It is better for them to create a separate country, so as not to interfere with normal living and not spoil their children's upbringing. They are already full in the media already. I would not want to have such parents.

This is the best solution. The LGBT activists are harassing normal heterosexual families with help from corrupt officials such as Brad Avakian, and in due time, this is going to provoke a very strong backlash from the people. It will be better for all the homosexuals to establish their own country (perhaps in Sweden or Saudi Arabia, the nations with the largest number of gays).

Those homosexuals that are harassing everyone, have nothing to do with the regular gay people. Of all gay, regular, peopel that I've talked to, no one wants those pride parades or any special treatment. Don't put those two groups in the same basket. The one that are pushing non stop are activists that are getting payed to do that, regular gay people don't give two sihts about those pride parades and whatnot, also 80% of all the people on those parades are heterosexual.

Most probaly not 80% but a good part - easily upwards the 50%.
You people just give the handfull vocal extreme lbgt avctivist too much credits.
It is pretty much the same with the handfull vocal extreme feminism activists.
The majority of lbgt, feminist and so on supporters are just normal everyday joes that accept people who are different and support their fight for equal rights.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on March 27, 2017, 04:51:31 AM
It is better for them to create a separate country, so as not to interfere with normal living and not spoil their children's upbringing. They are already full in the media already. I would not want to have such parents.

This is the best solution. The LGBT activists are harassing normal heterosexual families with help from corrupt officials such as Brad Avakian, and in due time, this is going to provoke a very strong backlash from the people. It will be better for all the homosexuals to establish their own country (perhaps in Sweden or Saudi Arabia, the nations with the largest number of gays).

Those homosexuals that are harassing everyone, have nothing to do with the regular gay people. Of all gay, regular, peopel that I've talked to, no one wants those pride parades or any special treatment. Don't put those two groups in the same basket. The one that are pushing non stop are activists that are getting payed to do that, regular gay people don't give two sihts about those pride parades and whatnot, also 80% of all the people on those parades are heterosexual.

The activists are the biggest problem. They are trying to build a divide between the homosexuals and the heterosexuals. In the Western nations, the gays hardly face any harassment. Then why do they need these activists.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: gabmen on March 28, 2017, 01:17:40 PM
It is better for them to create a separate country, so as not to interfere with normal living and not spoil their children's upbringing. They are already full in the media already. I would not want to have such parents.

This is the best solution. The LGBT activists are harassing normal heterosexual families with help from corrupt officials such as Brad Avakian, and in due time, this is going to provoke a very strong backlash from the people. It will be better for all the homosexuals to establish their own country (perhaps in Sweden or Saudi Arabia, the nations with the largest number of gays).

Those homosexuals that are harassing everyone, have nothing to do with the regular gay people. Of all gay, regular, peopel that I've talked to, no one wants those pride parades or any special treatment. Don't put those two groups in the same basket. The one that are pushing non stop are activists that are getting payed to do that, regular gay people don't give two sihts about those pride parades and whatnot, also 80% of all the people on those parades are heterosexual.

The activists are the biggest problem. They are trying to build a divide between the homosexuals and the heterosexuals. In the Western nations, the gays hardly face any harassment. Then why do they need these activists.

i kind of observed that as well. People i think are already used to the lgbt people everyday and are treating them just like they treat regular people. I don't think there's really any discrimination is today's society anymore so i agree that these activists are in a way blowing things out of proportion sometimes


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Forester618 on March 28, 2017, 01:50:05 PM
It is better for them to create a separate country, so as not to interfere with normal living and not spoil their children's upbringing. They are already full in the media already. I would not want to have such parents.

This is the best solution. The LGBT activists are harassing normal heterosexual families with help from corrupt officials such as Brad Avakian, and in due time, this is going to provoke a very strong backlash from the people. It will be better for all the homosexuals to establish their own country (perhaps in Sweden or Saudi Arabia, the nations with the largest number of gays).

Those homosexuals that are harassing everyone, have nothing to do with the regular gay people. Of all gay, regular, peopel that I've talked to, no one wants those pride parades or any special treatment. Don't put those two groups in the same basket. The one that are pushing non stop are activists that are getting payed to do that, regular gay people don't give two sihts about those pride parades and whatnot, also 80% of all the people on those parades are heterosexual.

The activists are the biggest problem. They are trying to build a divide between the homosexuals and the heterosexuals. In the Western nations, the gays hardly face any harassment. Then why do they need these activists.
I am against LGBT, parade. I believe homosexuality is a disease. I believe that it is impossible to prosecute but to promote such a lifestyle is bad. It seems to me that to allow them marriage and adoption of children is nonsense. What kind of education they can give to children? Only cripple the child's psyche.Gay pride parades and marriages this is a provocation aimed at the development of conflict in society.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Daniel91 on March 28, 2017, 04:09:49 PM
It's very complex and difficult issue.
In the past, marriage was connected only with church and was part of religious life.
In the modern society states took responsibility for marriages from churches.
When society become secularized and separated from the religion, we got a problem.
For religious people marriage is religious and holy act, connected with God and faith.
For other, non religious people, it's just civil act and part of human freedom or civil rights.
I don't think that such, very different viewpoints, can be united, no way.
It's classic dilemma, who is our true leader and owner, government and president, or God.
Each of us have different answer and because of this we have so much conflicts and problems in society and real division.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: erikalui on March 28, 2017, 06:22:29 PM
I'm shocked to read such comments about homosexuality being a disease. It's not a disease but it's their preference. They are normal as other humans are. They would infact be better parents to their kids as they wouldn't look down or have any stereotypes like our society has. There are many educated gays who have proved to be good parents and themselves have proved to be best in their work too. There shouldn't be any law that harms people from living the life they want if it doesn't harm others.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Neon1822 on March 28, 2017, 06:27:04 PM
It's very complex and difficult issue.
In the past, marriage was connected only with church and was part of religious life.
In the modern society states took responsibility for marriages from churches.
When society become secularized and separated from the religion, we got a problem.
For religious people marriage is religious and holy act, connected with God and faith.
For other, non religious people, it's just civil act and part of human freedom or civil rights.
I don't think that such, very different viewpoints, can be united, no way.
It's classic dilemma, who is our true leader and owner, government and president, or God.
Each of us have different answer and because of this we have so much conflicts and problems in society and real division.

In fact, no dilemma there. God does not exist, and politicians have tarnished its reputation and therefore the government is not anybody trust. People obey their own laws, and therefore, every year a growing number of people living in a civil marriage. Gays need to legalize their marriages with the purpose of provoking society to draw attention to himself. Personally, I have they cause only a feeling of contempt.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Eternu on March 28, 2017, 07:25:39 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?
I don't have nothing against homosexual people in general. But i don't support open propaganda that "gay is ok" , because if its ok we would be born with both male and female genitalia. To do what ever they want in there house where no one can see them is ok. I don't want to explain to my children tomorrow "why are those to mans kissing" or something like that. Its not right. And about children adoption, well i know i would not like to grow up with two fathers (its even weird when i think about it) . Children need Mother care as much as father.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on March 29, 2017, 08:42:17 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?
I don't have nothing against homosexual people in general. But i don't support open propaganda that "gay is ok" , because if its ok we would be born with both male and female genitalia. To do what ever they want in there house where no one can see them is ok. I don't want to explain to my children tomorrow "why are those to mans kissing" or something like that. Its not right. And about children adoption, well i know i would not like to grow up with two fathers (its even weird when i think about it) . Children need Mother care as much as father.

I completely agree with you. I don't want any intolerance to be shown against the gay community. But at the same time, the pro-gay propaganda targeting the children need to stop. It is a truth that homosexuality is a deviant behavior. It is not "normal".


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Barrymore on March 29, 2017, 09:42:08 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?
I don't have nothing against homosexual people in general. But i don't support open propaganda that "gay is ok" , because if its ok we would be born with both male and female genitalia. To do what ever they want in there house where no one can see them is ok. I don't want to explain to my children tomorrow "why are those to mans kissing" or something like that. Its not right. And about children adoption, well i know i would not like to grow up with two fathers (its even weird when i think about it) . Children need Mother care as much as father.

I completely agree with you. I don't want any intolerance to be shown against the gay community. But at the same time, the pro-gay propaganda targeting the children need to stop. It is a truth that homosexuality is a deviant behavior. It is not "normal".
Democratic principles do not allow to harass citizens, even if they are gay. This suggests that the democratic system is not perfect. I don't want my children saw on the streets the people promoting alien to any normal person principles.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Eternu on March 29, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?
I don't have nothing against homosexual people in general. But i don't support open propaganda that "gay is ok" , because if its ok we would be born with both male and female genitalia. To do what ever they want in there house where no one can see them is ok. I don't want to explain to my children tomorrow "why are those to mans kissing" or something like that. Its not right. And about children adoption, well i know i would not like to grow up with two fathers (its even weird when i think about it) . Children need Mother care as much as father.

I completely agree with you. I don't want any intolerance to be shown against the gay community. But at the same time, the pro-gay propaganda targeting the children need to stop. It is a truth that homosexuality is a deviant behavior. It is not "normal".
Democratic principles do not allow to harass citizens, even if they are gay. This suggests that the democratic system is not perfect. I don't want my children saw on the streets the people promoting alien to any normal person principles.
You are right when you say that democratic system is not perfect, as a matter of facts there is no perfect system, well non that i know of. But problem is that, because homosexual community is smaller, things that are done toward them seams bigger than they really are. Sometime people and media shows problem in light that suits one side or another. Homosexual people want all things but give non. They want some stuffs, and they don't think how will that effect people in future or children. They want to speak, but don't want to listen. I must say that I have meet some gay people, and they were really nice persons. But i don't like when they want world wide spectacle.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 29, 2017, 05:35:56 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?
I don't have nothing against homosexual people in general. But i don't support open propaganda that "gay is ok" , because if its ok we would be born with both male and female genitalia. To do what ever they want in there house where no one can see them is ok. I don't want to explain to my children tomorrow "why are those to mans kissing" or something like that. Its not right. And about children adoption, well i know i would not like to grow up with two fathers (its even weird when i think about it) . Children need Mother care as much as father.

I completely agree with you. I don't want any intolerance to be shown against the gay community. But at the same time, the pro-gay propaganda targeting the children need to stop. It is a truth that homosexuality is a deviant behavior. It is not "normal".
Democratic principles do not allow to harass citizens, even if they are gay. This suggests that the democratic system is not perfect. I don't want my children saw on the streets the people promoting alien to any normal person principles.
So now we know your children will be horrible twats ;)


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Basmaty1212 on March 29, 2017, 06:46:35 PM
I think that children will not be like that, but will have to make an effort to they were able to distinguish good from bad. In fact, gay provoke that children who see their parades have been taught that it is bad and gays are sick people.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: RedX on March 30, 2017, 12:38:41 AM
For me it is okay if they are homosexual but I really don't accept the fact that they have to get married. They can live together and love each other but please don't break the rules of the church or the words of God. I still believe that man and wowan are the couples that can only get married, On the adoption thing, I'm not against it but I'm still worried what will happen to the child when he is growing having two fathers.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on March 30, 2017, 12:41:29 AM
For me it is okay of they are homosexual but I really don't accept the fact that they have to get married. They can live together and love each other but please don't break the rules of the church or the words of God. I still believe that man and wowan are the couples that can only get married. On the adoption thing. I'm not against it but I'm still worried waht will happen to the child when he is growing having two fathers.
women bishops  are they allowed?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on March 30, 2017, 08:22:56 AM
On the adoption thing, I'm not against it but I'm still worried what will happen to the child when he is growing having two fathers.

I will never support gay adoption. Apart from the fact that gay parents are almost 30 times more likely to sexually abuse their children when compared to the heterosexual parents, research studies have also proven that children of gay foster parents are likely to suffer from bullying and depression.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: grenade launcher on March 30, 2017, 10:23:48 AM
They can live together and even can get married, but they can not have children by nature. They can get a cat or dog and take care of them. A child is a very big responsibility and not always heterosexual parents can cope with a full-fledged upbringing. And if the child has gay parents, it can cause him depression, a desire to escape from home, a lack of understanding from other children and a reluctance to live.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: AiloveYouks21 on May 08, 2017, 06:29:41 AM
From the physical point of view, there is nothing wrong with this if the parents do not use violence against children. And from an energetic point of view, homosexual couples can not fully nurture and nurture a child with energy, he gets a distorted view of nature.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: lovenhom on May 12, 2017, 11:38:12 AM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I do not think homosexuality is a disease. They were born that was not what they wanted. They are human too, we should not discriminate against them. Suppose we are like that and everyone thinks like you, how do you feel?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: jaceefrost on May 12, 2017, 01:57:32 PM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I do not think homosexuality is a disease. They were born that was not what they wanted. They are human too, we should not discriminate against them. Suppose we are like that and everyone thinks like you, how do you feel?
That's how humanity are being destroyed by people with the same thinking that they are so self righteous that what they think what is right is the only thing that everyone should accept and follow. People are being raised with too much hate with each other because of their own selfish beliefs instead of letting each other respects one another, some people want to discriminate others in order to make them self worthy and important.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Eternu on May 12, 2017, 06:41:32 PM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I do not think homosexuality is a disease. They were born that was not what they wanted. They are human too, we should not discriminate against them. Suppose we are like that and everyone thinks like you, how do you feel?
That's how humanity are being destroyed by people with the same thinking that they are so self righteous that what they think what is right is the only thing that everyone should accept and follow. People are being raised with too much hate with each other because of their own selfish beliefs instead of letting each other respects one another, some people want to discriminate others in order to make them self worthy and important.
We can respect one another as much as we want, but there are some really issues and problems that comes with Homosexual marriages and adoptions of kids. I mean, i do not have anything against homosexual people, as long as they do what they want to do secretly. They are problematic ones, it would be hard for children to understand them properly. Imagine what impact it would have on child psychology if he or she had two dads for parents. Its not natural...


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Lancusters on May 12, 2017, 09:34:24 PM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I do not think homosexuality is a disease. They were born that was not what they wanted. They are human too, we should not discriminate against them. Suppose we are like that and everyone thinks like you, how do you feel?
Homosexuality is a virus that threatens humans with extinction. Not allow homosexual families to raise children. Imagine what they teach them. Leave your liberal views for a more suitable location. We can not encourage an unnatural relationship, and especially with childhood maim the psyche.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Rupok on May 30, 2017, 04:17:31 PM

I have never seen and heard gay marriage and adoption.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: wolfracer on May 30, 2017, 04:25:21 PM
Nowadays more and more countries are in pro or obligated to accepted and legalize the homosexual married, but as you said adoption in homosexual married are another thing should not exist.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: coin_detective on May 30, 2017, 04:40:47 PM
Many different views here, I like it. Sadly, there are a lot of people who think homosexuality is a 'disease' aswell.
Living in a country where same sex marriage is allowed, some people are still afraid to show their homosexuality to others or the public
because of the image raised by religion. In my view religion is a disease, not homosexuality.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: lexamagic on May 30, 2017, 06:07:05 PM
Many different views here, I like it. Sadly, there are a lot of people who think homosexuality is a 'disease' aswell.
Living in a country where same sex marriage is allowed, some people are still afraid to show their homosexuality to others or the public
because of the image raised by religion. In my view religion is a disease, not homosexuality.

Religion is a myth, a means of managing people. And homosexuality is a disease that not everyone wants to even admit, because crazy people also never admit that they are sick.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Okurkabinladin on May 30, 2017, 09:02:36 PM
Many different views here, I like it. Sadly, there are a lot of people who think homosexuality is a 'disease' aswell.
Living in a country where same sex marriage is allowed, some people are still afraid to show their homosexuality to others or the public
because of the image raised by religion. In my view religion is a disease, not homosexuality.

Religion is a myth, a means of managing people. And homosexuality is a disease that not everyone wants to even admit, because crazy people also never admit that they are sick.

We can debate on the former as 85% of humankind would readily disagree with you, sir. People need to have faith.

However, we agree wholeheartedly on the latter. Homosexuality is not just disease, but evolutionary suicide. Chosing to fail to procreate.

Number of suicides for homosexuals and transgerder are also off the charts, regardless if they live in Sweden in South Africa, strongly suggesting, that these people are not of sound mind.

http://beautyisinside.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/LGBTSuicides.jpg


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: joebrook on May 30, 2017, 10:06:43 PM
I really don't think it's a good idea to let Gay partners adopt Children, this is going to have a very bad effect on the children, children are meant to be raised by a mother and father figure. Q


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: kodes88 on May 30, 2017, 10:08:09 PM
Homosexuals must be healed, many people who consider homosexuals are natural because they consider that they uphold human rights. But homosexuality is not a human right. Not everything can be a human right. Only good things are right for human beings. And homosexuals are social aberrations to be healed.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: kurniawaN on June 02, 2017, 05:22:37 AM
I think it is good if gay marriage permitted and adoption also permitted.
It helps children which are not expected by their original parents

I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I extremely disagree when you consider homosexuality as sickness.
It do not not infect to others people.
The only the most infectious thing is your common cold and Tuberculosis


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Peregrines on June 02, 2017, 06:12:37 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

i think there is nothing wrong of adoption of same sex marriage,
as long as the parents can raise the child well as their responsibility.
For the child to be a good citizen in our society.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: malikzfs on June 02, 2017, 06:15:55 AM
 How can you plan same-sex weddings in a country where same-sex marriage is not recognized  :o


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: kodes88 on June 02, 2017, 06:25:13 AM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I do not think homosexuality is a disease. They were born that was not what they wanted. They are human too, we should not discriminate against them. Suppose we are like that and everyone thinks like you, how do you feel?

Human destiny is created in pairs, Men and women, and naturally men are paired with women. So homosexual is a disorder, homosexual is a social aberration, a disorder is a disease. Homosexuality is not a fate, homosexuality is an option, but homosexuality is the wrong choice. Homosexuality is at odds with the laws of nature.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Be_Happy on June 02, 2017, 12:10:38 PM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I do not think homosexuality is a disease. They were born that was not what they wanted. They are human too, we should not discriminate against them. Suppose we are like that and everyone thinks like you, how do you feel?

Human destiny is created in pairs, Men and women, and naturally men are paired with women. So homosexual is a disorder, homosexual is a social aberration, a disorder is a disease. Homosexuality is not a fate, homosexuality is an option, but homosexuality is the wrong choice. Homosexuality is at odds with the laws of nature.

Yes, homosexuality is a disease that is associated with a violation of energy. With a huge desire, it can be cured, but it is not profitable for society. Homosexuality is promoted to destroy the population from the whole planet and instead of directing people to the right path they propose creating same-sex marriages for the destruction of family values.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Quietman on June 03, 2017, 08:11:26 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

Many countries still do not allow same sex marriage and have problems with giving same rights for homosexual people not because they want to prohibit the love  between two homosexual people but for the stabilization and perpetuation of society purposes.  Stabilization and perpetuation of society  because we all know that homosexual partners do not have the capability to create children meaning, same sex marriage changes the purpose of the civil institution of marriage. Unlike natural marriage, it has the capability on bringing up next generation on raising children to become good citizens.  Same sex marriage merely validates sex partners. Even some homo partners adopt children, still, the truth is there--they are not the biological parents of those children.  Religious beliefs and cultural orientations regarding homosexuality are also big factor. The Bible teaches us that man is created for woman and vice versa.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Slow death on June 03, 2017, 08:46:42 AM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I do not think homosexuality is a disease. They were born that was not what they wanted. They are human too, we should not discriminate against them. Suppose we are like that and everyone thinks like you, how do you feel?

Human destiny is created in pairs, Men and women, and naturally men are paired with women. So homosexual is a disorder, homosexual is a social aberration, a disorder is a disease. Homosexuality is not a fate, homosexuality is an option, but homosexuality is the wrong choice. Homosexuality is at odds with the laws of nature.

I agree.

I do not think it's right that we accept homosexuals getting married and adopting children.

But I realized some things:

Homosexuals seem to be less violent and many homosexuals are good people.

I venture to say that a child adopted by homosexuals will have better education


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: moriskarlov on June 03, 2017, 02:08:59 PM
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Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

Gay marriages repugnant to the Lord. Thanks God i do not grew in gay or lesbian family. What values could they instill me? If you are boy, and you like another boy as a friend, maybe it`s your future husband, think of it?)) No,no,no! Please understand me correctly, as a christian i can accept that matter of things, but as a human i understand people who was born with another propensity, but not the situation when they speak freely on tv, adopt children, or say how grate it is..


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: cybersofts on June 03, 2017, 02:19:51 PM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I do not think homosexuality is a disease. They were born that was not what they wanted. They are human too, we should not discriminate against them. Suppose we are like that and everyone thinks like you, how do you feel?

Human destiny is created in pairs, Men and women, and naturally men are paired with women. So homosexual is a disorder, homosexual is a social aberration, a disorder is a disease. Homosexuality is not a fate, homosexuality is an option, but homosexuality is the wrong choice. Homosexuality is at odds with the laws of nature.

Yes, homosexuality is a disease that is associated with a violation of energy. With a huge desire, it can be cured, but it is not profitable for society. Homosexuality is promoted to destroy the population from the whole planet and instead of directing people to the right path they propose creating same-sex marriages for the destruction of family values.

If you want a kid get married and make one for yourself!

I don't support giving child to gay people because they have a mental disorder which is also wrong for child adoption policies :D


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Xester on June 03, 2017, 04:00:44 PM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I do not think homosexuality is a disease. They were born that was not what they wanted. They are human too, we should not discriminate against them. Suppose we are like that and everyone thinks like you, how do you feel?

Human destiny is created in pairs, Men and women, and naturally men are paired with women. So homosexual is a disorder, homosexual is a social aberration, a disorder is a disease. Homosexuality is not a fate, homosexuality is an option, but homosexuality is the wrong choice. Homosexuality is at odds with the laws of nature.

Yes, homosexuality is a disease that is associated with a violation of energy. With a huge desire, it can be cured, but it is not profitable for society. Homosexuality is promoted to destroy the population from the whole planet and instead of directing people to the right path they propose creating same-sex marriages for the destruction of family values.

If you want a kid get married and make one for yourself!

I don't support giving child to gay people because they have a mental disorder which is also wrong for child adoption policies :D

Yes if you want to have a child then have a spouse.  But we should not be so judgmental about gay people that they have mental disorder.  I have watched documentaries were gay partners adopted a child and they raised him very well.  Well mannered and have a good grades.  I think it is not about if you are straight or gay what matters is how we will raise them.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: matuson on June 03, 2017, 04:56:31 PM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I do not think homosexuality is a disease. They were born that was not what they wanted. They are human too, we should not discriminate against them. Suppose we are like that and everyone thinks like you, how do you feel?

Human destiny is created in pairs, Men and women, and naturally men are paired with women. So homosexual is a disorder, homosexual is a social aberration, a disorder is a disease. Homosexuality is not a fate, homosexuality is an option, but homosexuality is the wrong choice. Homosexuality is at odds with the laws of nature.

Yes, homosexuality is a disease that is associated with a violation of energy. With a huge desire, it can be cured, but it is not profitable for society. Homosexuality is promoted to destroy the population from the whole planet and instead of directing people to the right path they propose creating same-sex marriages for the destruction of family values.

If you want a kid get married and make one for yourself!

I don't support giving child to gay people because they have a mental disorder which is also wrong for child adoption policies :D

Yes if you want to have a child then have a spouse.  But we should not be so judgmental about gay people that they have mental disorder.  I have watched documentaries were gay partners adopted a child and they raised him very well.  Well mannered and have a good grades.  I think it is not about if you are straight or gay what matters is how we will raise them.
The most important thing in the child is his assessment? Funny! At an early age children are encouraged standards of behavior and are taught the values which are accepted in society where he lives. What values can bring up gays. I am opposed to allow them to raise children. You yourself acknowledge that gays have a mental disorder.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: kodes88 on June 04, 2017, 04:56:07 AM
I am opposed to gay marriage, and especially allowing them to have children. It seems to me that homosexuality is a disease. If you allow these sick people to raise children they will grow up the same sick people.
I do not think homosexuality is a disease. They were born that was not what they wanted. They are human too, we should not discriminate against them. Suppose we are like that and everyone thinks like you, how do you feel?

Human destiny is created in pairs, Men and women, and naturally men are paired with women. So homosexual is a disorder, homosexual is a social aberration, a disorder is a disease. Homosexuality is not a fate, homosexuality is an option, but homosexuality is the wrong choice. Homosexuality is at odds with the laws of nature.

I agree.

I do not think it's right that we accept homosexuals getting married and adopting children.

But I realized some things:

Homosexuals seem to be less violent and many homosexuals are good people.

I venture to say that a child adopted by homosexuals will have better education


I do not support homosexuals, but I also disagree with the violence against homosexuals. They are also human, although their choice is wrong, they still deserve good treatment. But I would never agree with a gay marriage, let alone to adopt a child. Although they take good care of children, gay marriage remains wrong.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: anneiS_02 on June 04, 2017, 03:21:20 PM
According to some research that I have read, homo can and do have what it takes to be a parent of an adopted child. Studies say that even homosexual or gays can be more of a parent than straight parents.
I'm saying that everyone can be a good parent to a child in any shape and sizes right?
The world is coming generation to generation, I am not saying that it is morally right but giving a home to an abandoned child warms my heart.
Let it be less one poverty. Less one homeless child because there are these kind hearted people, wishing for a family and happiness.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Kronos21 on June 05, 2017, 01:33:44 PM
There is the assertion that if you want to know what will be your wife in the future, look at your mother-in-law. That's right. Education and cohabitation affects the rest of your life. Who grow up children after living in same-sex families.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Xester on June 05, 2017, 01:54:01 PM
There is the assertion that if you want to know what will be your wife in the future, look at your mother-in-law. That's right. Education and cohabitation affects the rest of your life. Who grow up children after living in same-sex families.

I can't help but smile.  And that saying was like true to some people.  The saying that if you want to know the traits of your wife is to look on your mother in law but that should not be used always.  And I do not think that if a child was raised by homosexual people they would likely become like them.  I saw people lived on yhat kind of life and they are straight ones.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Deluzi on June 05, 2017, 06:00:41 PM
To be gay, it's not ok.

God gave you the body of a man, so you wanted to be a man, in next life you'll probobly be given a nother body, a female body, a dogs body... the only persons that want's us to be gay are people with demonic nature, why? because population reduction, and this is just one of their ways, they got many...

But at least I agree on adoption, it's better than if they ask other woman to bare theirs child... now that's stupidity on whole another level.... And even to be gay is outrageous to me...



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Palider on June 14, 2017, 06:41:09 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

It depends on their religion. People still include their religious belief to accept third gender. Personally I think people should give it up. If they don't want it then don't just don't harm lgbt people for they don't cause you harm either.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: mariahh on June 14, 2017, 11:10:31 AM
I am not sure If it's bad for a child to grow up with the same sex of parents.Although I think If I was this child I would feel kind of awkward.However I believe If this child would be loved and grown up in a right way it would be more pleased than being poor or orphan.I hope this is not sounds racist, but at least is just my opinion.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: matuson on June 14, 2017, 02:25:52 PM
I am not sure If it's bad for a child to grow up with the same sex of parents.Although I think If I was this child I would feel kind of awkward.However I believe If this child would be loved and grown up in a right way it would be more pleased than being poor or orphan.I hope this is not sounds racist, but at least is just my opinion.
You probably have not noticed, but in your post many conditions to child well-lived in same-sex families. All the same, he will feel the pressure from classmates. My opinion it is better to live as an orphan than a family like that.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Daniel91 on June 14, 2017, 02:59:51 PM
I am not sure If it's bad for a child to grow up with the same sex of parents.Although I think If I was this child I would feel kind of awkward.However I believe If this child would be loved and grown up in a right way it would be more pleased than being poor or orphan.I hope this is not sounds racist, but at least is just my opinion.
You probably have not noticed, but in your post many conditions to child well-lived in same-sex families. All the same, he will feel the pressure from classmates. My opinion it is better to live as an orphan than a family like that.

It's very difficult issue now in the western society.
From one side, we have a religious view that the family community is exclusively men, women, and their children and from other side gay activists argue that is their human right to have children.
Real question here is what is the best for child.
Many experts argue that children need to experience the love of parents of both sexes, in order to have balanced development and emotional stability.
If you believe in God, than you know that He created man and woman and gave them blessing to multiply and have children.
In the nature, you can just see female and male together, in the animal world.
It's obvious what is more natural here, isn't it?




Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on June 14, 2017, 03:38:00 PM
I'm not supporter of gays. But if we live in democracy, then ok, let it go - allow gay marriage.
But I'm strongly against that they would able to adopt kids. I try to explain why:
I predict that mostly gays are from western countries. There are still many kids who are growing without parents. If gays would have right to adopt kids, these kids growing in gay family can understand it as normal thing and and they can become to be gays. In mostly European countries more people die than born, so, growing amount of gays can have negative impact for country population in long term. But, it's only my conspiracy theory.
In other case, kids who are growing in gay family can be discriminated by other kids in school.

Not a supporter of gay people?  What does that even mean?  You don't get along with them?

For OP, the issue originates from religion, being gay is a sin.  That sin has found its way into policy and law.  There are many things that people don't support, but because we have certain freedoms (varying depending on where you live), that support isn't necessary.

The time hasn't come yet in the world as a whole, but the time will come when people no longer need the permission of an ignorant population to have their freedom.

If gay people aren't harming you in any way, what do you care?  You need to control the behaviours and desires of other people?  Should other people say which desires you have that are acceptable or not?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 14, 2017, 03:53:04 PM
I don't think that gay people should be permitted to marry and to adopt children. I personally know a few people, who happens to be homosexuals. They indulge in all sort of risky behavior, including injecting drugs and having sex with multiple partners. It is a very unhealthy way of living, and I am glad that in my country homosexuality is illegal.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on June 14, 2017, 09:33:37 PM
I don't think that gay people should be permitted to marry and to adopt children. I personally know a few people, who happens to be homosexuals. They indulge in all sort of risky behavior, including injecting drugs and having sex with multiple partners. It is a very unhealthy way of living, and I am glad that in my country homosexuality is illegal.

And every straight person you know that doesn't do drugs, including yourself, is perfect?

Only gay people take risks and do drugs?

The worst people that I have met in my life fit into the category of being straight non-drug users.  Should that be banned too?

It's sad to see people encourage their own freedom's to be stripped and celebrate it.  Government has your back, keep paying those taxes  :D


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Okurkabinladin on June 14, 2017, 09:48:19 PM
I don't think that gay people should be permitted to marry and to adopt children. I personally know a few people, who happens to be homosexuals. They indulge in all sort of risky behavior, including injecting drugs and having sex with multiple partners. It is a very unhealthy way of living, and I am glad that in my country homosexuality is illegal.

And every straight person you know that doesn't do drugs, including yourself, is perfect?

Only gay people take risks and do drugs?

The worst people that I have met in my life fit into the category of being straight non-drug users.  Should that be banned too?

It's sad to see people encourage their own freedom's to be stripped and celebrate it.  Government has your back, keep paying those taxes  :D

Keep crying.

Gay and transgender people are far more likely to both mental illnesses and suicidal behavior. Hardly something, that would make them effective at parenting others.

If they still want kids with their condition, fine. Then can make them (you know why right?). Adopting/buying child of someone else is not human right, mister. Child is also human being and its not 1860 anymore.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/77/4e/05/774e05a1e72731b850911e48afd2cc3c.jpg

Great environment for children:

https://4thwavenow.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/williams-table-12.png


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Lieldoryn on June 14, 2017, 10:30:30 PM
For the child himself to choose the parents if it is small and therefore, to take care of his later life in same-sex families, the state should. If there's a chance that the child will get a moral trauma it is necessary to prohibit any attempts to adopt a child by gays and lesbians.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Babyrica0226 on June 14, 2017, 11:43:53 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?
Gay marriage and Adaption, for me is not acceptable in heaven in terms of God's rule in the Bible.
But in some countries this is legally adapted and implemented and that country is nothing difference to Sodom and Gomora way back B.C in times of Abraham.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on June 15, 2017, 05:05:30 AM
I don't think that gay people should be permitted to marry and to adopt children. I personally know a few people, who happens to be homosexuals. They indulge in all sort of risky behavior, including injecting drugs and having sex with multiple partners. It is a very unhealthy way of living, and I am glad that in my country homosexuality is illegal.

And every straight person you know that doesn't do drugs, including yourself, is perfect?

Only gay people take risks and do drugs?

The worst people that I have met in my life fit into the category of being straight non-drug users.  Should that be banned too?

It's sad to see people encourage their own freedom's to be stripped and celebrate it.  Government has your back, keep paying those taxes  :D

Keep crying.

Gay and transgender people are far more likely to both mental illnesses and suicidal behavior. Hardly something, that would make them effective at parenting others.

If they still want kids with their condition, fine. Then can make them (you know why right?). Adopting/buying child of someone else is not human right, mister. Child is also human being and its not 1860 anymore.


Just look at this thread, why wouldn't they have mental illnesses with a culture that condemns them because of a prehistoric mentality?  Not many places in the world to be gay and live as freely as straight folks.

You bring a stat...so now we can generalize that they're all terrible?  How many assholes do you know?  You know they're all the children of amazing straight people? lol

All those stats of mental illness unfortunately are kids of straight people.  So your argument is a complete failure.

Being open to gay people is a function of environment and culture.  Vishnu.Reang lives in a culture that condemns gay people, and so does he.  I live in a culture where gay people have the same rights.  Some cultures are able to progress while others remain stagnant.

I don't think being a good parent depends on sexual orientation.  People that have addressed their own insecurities will be better prepared, and people that haven't will struggle.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Supreemo on June 15, 2017, 07:12:05 AM
.I don't really understand why do people like same sex marriage to be legalized in different countries, aside from that they also want to receive the blessings from churches or from their religion, is it really appropriate? because for my own reasoning its not really acceptable.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: gabmen on June 15, 2017, 10:14:43 AM
.I don't really understand why do people like same sex marriage to be legalized in different countries, aside from that they also want to receive the blessings from churches or from their religion, is it really appropriate? because for my own reasoning its not really acceptable.

Though i share your views, i respect these people's rights to cboose and live with whoever they love. I don't see anything wrong with a gay couple adopting and being married in civil. Of they love each other, they deserve to have all the civil rights of married people. Though i also think that religion ahould also be respected so i think they should push for church marriages if that certain religion doesn't allow it


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: kodes88 on June 15, 2017, 04:03:49 PM
.I don't really understand why do people like same sex marriage to be legalized in different countries, aside from that they also want to receive the blessings from churches or from their religion, is it really appropriate? because for my own reasoning its not really acceptable.

Though i share your views, i respect these people's rights to cboose and live with whoever they love. I don't see anything wrong with a gay couple adopting and being married in civil. Of they love each other, they deserve to have all the civil rights of married people. Though i also think that religion ahould also be respected so i think they should push for church marriages if that certain religion doesn't allow it

Loving same-sex is not a problem if it is still within reasonable limits, loving same-sex until marriage? It is completely beyond human nature. Marrying same-sex and adopting a child can contaminate the child's mind. Religion clearly prohibits same-sex marriage because it is not a human nature, it is not a good thing. If there is a religion that legalizes homosexuals, then the religion has a reason to be called a heresy religion.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: warrior333 on June 15, 2017, 04:13:20 PM
I'm an atheist and I don't care what they say about this religion. I don't understand why in the West so much focus on same-sex marriage. It would be better dealt with the problem of maintaining good marriages. How many divorces and no one is interested.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Seram1 on June 15, 2017, 04:25:27 PM
.I don't really understand why do people like same sex marriage to be legalized in different countries, aside from that they also want to receive the blessings from churches or from their religion, is it really appropriate? because for my own reasoning its not really acceptable.

Though i share your views, i respect these people's rights to cboose and live with whoever they love. I don't see anything wrong with a gay couple adopting and being married in civil. Of they love each other, they deserve to have all the civil rights of married people. Though i also think that religion ahould also be respected so i think they should push for church marriages if that certain religion doesn't allow it

Loving same-sex is not a problem if it is still within reasonable limits, loving same-sex until marriage? It is completely beyond human nature. Marrying same-sex and adopting a child can contaminate the child's mind. Religion clearly prohibits same-sex marriage because it is not a human nature, it is not a good thing. If there is a religion that legalizes homosexuals, then the religion has a reason to be called a heresy religion.
Yes I agree with your opinion.
If there is a religion that allows such a marriage a heresy.

Whether humans who engage in such marriages have no intellect and mind.

Even a single animal will not want to mate the same sex.

Whether humans are same-sex married more stupid than the animals. ??


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Basmic on June 15, 2017, 04:37:14 PM
.I don't really understand why do people like same sex marriage to be legalized in different countries, aside from that they also want to receive the blessings from churches or from their religion, is it really appropriate? because for my own reasoning its not really acceptable.

Though i share your views, i respect these people's rights to cboose and live with whoever they love. I don't see anything wrong with a gay couple adopting and being married in civil. Of they love each other, they deserve to have all the civil rights of married people. Though i also think that religion ahould also be respected so i think they should push for church marriages if that certain religion doesn't allow it

Loving same-sex is not a problem if it is still within reasonable limits, loving same-sex until marriage? It is completely beyond human nature. Marrying same-sex and adopting a child can contaminate the child's mind. Religion clearly prohibits same-sex marriage because it is not a human nature, it is not a good thing. If there is a religion that legalizes homosexuals, then the religion has a reason to be called a heresy religion.
Yes I agree with your opinion.
If there is a religion that allows such a marriage a heresy.

Whether humans who engage in such marriages have no intellect and mind.

Even a single animal will not want to mate the same sex.

Whether humans are same-sex married more stupid than the animals. ??
Among the animals, too often a homosexual relationship. This man is no different from the animals. My question is why do gays need to admit. They have mental disorders and they need not recognize. They need to be treated.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on June 15, 2017, 04:43:24 PM
I don't understand why gays believe in gods       because those that wrote these MANUALS
clearly hate gays ...THEY HATE GAYS ..

And if your gay      you are following a manual that says it hates you..
SO WHY DO YOU FOLLOW BULLSHIT..?

Now is it because you think your wedding photos will look better if in a CHURCH?..

Because that church you enter HATES YOUR GUTS ..

Although it looks good on a photo the whole surroundings is hate upon your face..
THE WALLS ARE SPITTING AT YOU..

So enjoy your weddings in the church of gay haters :D :D..

Nice beach much better ;)..
And the EARTH LOVES YOU..it invented you ;D..
So show photos of you surrounded by the EARTH at your weddings..

Gay weddings with the EARTH SURROUNDINGS ..
The earth created many many  gay species just like a garden with many different flowers
but still flowers ..

OPEN YOUR MINDS TO THE UNIVERSE.
First step is to open your minds to your surroundings because if you cannot open your minds to your surroundings then how can you open your minds to the UNIVERSE..


So if your gay GOD HATES YOU ..Well the people who wrote it do ;)..
So those that follow the guys who wrote the manuals HATE YOU TOO..


Imagine your following a book that hates you ..
would you follow a NAZI manual?..So what is the difference ?..

Both want to kill a certain type of people..
Kill the Jews kill the gays same same ..

And you follow that bullshit are you gays DUMB?..

RELIGION is for crazies ;)


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: criptix on June 15, 2017, 07:15:30 PM
I don't think that gay people should be permitted to marry and to adopt children. I personally know a few people, who happens to be homosexuals. They indulge in all sort of risky behavior, including injecting drugs and having sex with multiple partners. It is a very unhealthy way of living, and I am glad that in my country homosexuality is illegal.

And every straight person you know that doesn't do drugs, including yourself, is perfect?

Only gay people take risks and do drugs?

The worst people that I have met in my life fit into the category of being straight non-drug users.  Should that be banned too?

It's sad to see people encourage their own freedom's to be stripped and celebrate it.  Government has your back, keep paying those taxes  :D

Keep crying.

Gay and transgender people are far more likely to both mental illnesses and suicidal behavior. Hardly something, that would make them effective at parenting others.

If they still want kids with their condition, fine. Then can make them (you know why right?). Adopting/buying child of someone else is not human right, mister. Child is also human being and its not 1860 anymore.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/77/4e/05/774e05a1e72731b850911e48afd2cc3c.jpg

Great environment for children:

https://4thwavenow.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/williams-table-12.png

What is the reason for such a high suicide rate in the case the numbers are correct? :S


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Xester on June 15, 2017, 10:27:36 PM
.I don't really understand why do people like same sex marriage to be legalized in different countries, aside from that they also want to receive the blessings from churches or from their religion, is it really appropriate? because for my own reasoning its not really acceptable.

The topic is about gay marriage and adoption and yes, I agree with you, I do not agree with same sex have a blessing from the church.  If they want they can marry officiated by a mayor or a judge but not a priest a pastor or whatever official from the church.  In adoption for me it is okay for gay people or couple to adopt someone.  Because sometimes and often they are caring and loving also like mothers.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: XinXan on June 15, 2017, 10:56:28 PM
I don't think that gay people should be permitted to marry and to adopt children. I personally know a few people, who happens to be homosexuals. They indulge in all sort of risky behavior, including injecting drugs and having sex with multiple partners. It is a very unhealthy way of living, and I am glad that in my country homosexuality is illegal.

And every straight person you know that doesn't do drugs, including yourself, is perfect?

Only gay people take risks and do drugs?

The worst people that I have met in my life fit into the category of being straight non-drug users.  Should that be banned too?

It's sad to see people encourage their own freedom's to be stripped and celebrate it.  Government has your back, keep paying those taxes  :D

Keep crying.

Gay and transgender people are far more likely to both mental illnesses and suicidal behavior. Hardly something, that would make them effective at parenting others.

If they still want kids with their condition, fine. Then can make them (you know why right?). Adopting/buying child of someone else is not human right, mister. Child is also human being and its not 1860 anymore.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/77/4e/05/774e05a1e72731b850911e48afd2cc3c.jpg

Great environment for children:

https://4thwavenow.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/williams-table-12.png

What is the reason for such a high suicide rate in the case the numbers are correct? :S

Well obviously they are bullied more than other people specially by their families in many cases, which is really bad, however that doesn't fully explain the trans suicide rate which is way too high to blame only on bullying, jews in nazi camps had a lower suicide rate, trans people are not treated worse than jews in concentration camps, obviously. The truth is that it might be a mental illness. I never really understood how do you ''feel'' like a woman when you are a man or vice-versa


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: popcorn1 on June 16, 2017, 12:05:06 AM
I don't think that gay people should be permitted to marry and to adopt children. I personally know a few people, who happens to be homosexuals. They indulge in all sort of risky behavior, including injecting drugs and having sex with multiple partners. It is a very unhealthy way of living, and I am glad that in my country homosexuality is illegal.

And every straight person you know that doesn't do drugs, including yourself, is perfect?

Only gay people take risks and do drugs?

The worst people that I have met in my life fit into the category of being straight non-drug users.  Should that be banned too?

It's sad to see people encourage their own freedom's to be stripped and celebrate it.  Government has your back, keep paying those taxes  :D

Keep crying.

Gay and transgender people are far more likely to both mental illnesses and suicidal behavior. Hardly something, that would make them effective at parenting others.

If they still want kids with their condition, fine. Then can make them (you know why right?). Adopting/buying child of someone else is not human right, mister. Child is also human being and its not 1860 anymore.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/77/4e/05/774e05a1e72731b850911e48afd2cc3c.jpg

Great environment for children:

https://4thwavenow.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/williams-table-12.png

What is the reason for such a high suicide rate in the case the numbers are correct? :S

Well obviously they are bullied more than other people specially by their families in many cases, which is really bad, however that doesn't fully explain the trans suicide rate which is way too high to blame only on bullying, jews in nazi camps had a lower suicide rate, trans people are not treated worse than jews in concentration camps, obviously. The truth is that it might be a mental illness. I never really understood how do you ''feel'' like a woman when you are a man or vice-versa
trans people are not treated worse than jews in concentration camps, obviously.
No they treat you the same.
The NAZI killed gays and trans if they found out you was one just like the jews you was dead..

Saudi see if they treat you worse than the NAZI..
Well they can only do the same really basically kill you ..

Plus i rather die from gas than burnt in a cage or threw off a building  ;)..

trans suicide rate which is way too high..
I could imagine people would point more being trans than being gay..

Well have you seen some of those trans they look like they just come from a pantomime as one of the UGLY SISTERS in Cinderella..

But then again you get some you would never know and look very pretty ..
Look for the Adams apple  ;)..

When we as a planet except that not every human is the same
then we will forget about what people look like ..

BUT IF SOMEONE LOOKS like a clown you cannot help but laugh ..
Some trans put make up on like coco the clown :D..


But once they change and had all the changes they are who they wanted to be ..
But you will get some who regret it and some who wont..

Some people just cannot make there minds up..Red socks blue socks ..BOY or girl ..
Then when you go out in the red socks some times you wish you wore the blue..

But at the end of the day it is what ever makes him or her happy as long as they hurt no one..
Do you not want other humans to be happy?..

One might like getting a strap on dildo off the wife
one might like the light turned off with the wife..

Both have sex in different ways BOTH have nothing to do with me or could ever hurt me..
Now if those 2 people are nice people and hurt no one why would i make fun out of the guy who takes a strap on off the wife.. :D

I mean the one who as the lights off could say you dirty so and so ..

You do know all this hate stems from the BIBLES ..The JUDGEMENTS ..

Don't do this don't do that because you will go to hell..

It's why Muslim women will feel ashamed of there HAIR but not the PUSSIES ..
Because they have been programmed by the religious books to feel this shame..
and also can be punished for showing the hair..


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Jasad on June 16, 2017, 07:42:22 AM
.I don't really understand why do people like same sex marriage to be legalized in different countries, aside from that they also want to receive the blessings from churches or from their religion, is it really appropriate? because for my own reasoning its not really acceptable.

The topic is about gay marriage and adoption and yes, I agree with you, I do not agree with same sex have a blessing from the church.  If they want they can marry officiated by a mayor or a judge but not a priest a pastor or whatever official from the church.  In adoption for me it is okay for gay people or couple to adopt someone.  Because sometimes and often they are caring and loving also like mothers.
Caring for a child well has become an obligation for everyone. We do not need to be parents to care for children properly, human nature will always want to take care of the child, no matter whose child they are. But if a gay couple adopts a child, it can damage the mind of the child, the child is at risk of getting bully in the world's schoolhouse and playground. Lesbian or gay couples should not adopt children.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: hdmediaservices on June 16, 2017, 07:53:59 AM

Wow - unbelievable how much ignorance and stereotyping there is in the modern world.

My partner and I adopted two children at birth.  They both have turned out to be very impressive and beautiful human beings. 

If only heterosexual couples had to go through the same countless home-study interviews, drug tests and medical physicals just to prepare to have a child -- the world would certainly be a better place.



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: BADecker on June 16, 2017, 09:02:40 AM
From the At what age should one be married? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19592122#msg19592122) thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19592122#msg19592122:

Guys not before 14, and gals not before 12.

 ;D


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: XinXan on June 16, 2017, 09:41:18 AM

Wow - unbelievable how much ignorance and stereotyping there is in the modern world.

My partner and I adopted two children at birth.  They both have turned out to be very impressive and beautiful human beings. 

If only heterosexual couples had to go through the same countless home-study interviews, drug tests and medical physicals just to prepare to have a child -- the world would certainly be a better place.



Well, the truth is that children will do better with gay parents than no parents at all, the places where they keep all the abandoned children are just not good for children. I personally don't care whether gay parents adopt or not. What really matters is how they treat their kid, not their sexual orientation. As you said there are plenty of ''normal'' parents that raise absolutely terrible children all around the world and no one gives a shit.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Monta3002 on June 16, 2017, 02:34:19 PM
I'm opposing the gay marriage. They can be together but marriage? I dont think so. But I'm okay about them adopting children because childrens needs parents no matter what the gender of the parents would be.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: XinXan on June 16, 2017, 03:42:04 PM
I'm opposing the gay marriage. They can be together but marriage? I dont think so. But I'm okay about them adopting children because childrens needs parents no matter what the gender of the parents would be.

Why would anyone care if someone wants to merry a man, woman or a fucking dog. Who the fuck cares, why do you care? Does it affect you in any way? You should be far more concerned about the adoption but instead you are concerned about them getting married. Your logic is so flawed I don't even know what to say. Good luck in real life.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on June 16, 2017, 07:11:37 PM
I'm opposing the gay marriage. They can be together but marriage? I dont think so. But I'm okay about them adopting children because childrens needs parents no matter what the gender of the parents would be.

Adoption of children by gay parents should never be permitted, no matter what happens in the future. 33% of all the child abuse is homosexual in nature. And this is despite the fact that gays constitute no more than 1% to 2% of the total population. That also means that they are at least 30 times more likely to abuse children when compared to the heterosexuals.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on June 16, 2017, 09:27:03 PM
I'm opposing the gay marriage. They can be together but marriage? I dont think so. But I'm okay about them adopting children because childrens needs parents no matter what the gender of the parents would be.

Why would anyone care if someone wants to merry a man, woman or a fucking dog. Who the fuck cares, why do you care? Does it affect you in any way? You should be far more concerned about the adoption but instead you are concerned about them getting married. Your logic is so flawed I don't even know what to say. Good luck in real life.

These people carry that opinion because they've been brainwashed from childhood.  If anything is repeated enough times, and a person never learns to think for themselves and form their own opinions, then they will only mimic the opinions of their parents/family/friends/culture/religion/media.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on June 16, 2017, 09:37:49 PM

Wow - unbelievable how much ignorance and stereotyping there is in the modern world.

My partner and I adopted two children at birth.  They both have turned out to be very impressive and beautiful human beings. 

If only heterosexual couples had to go through the same countless home-study interviews, drug tests and medical physicals just to prepare to have a child -- the world would certainly be a better place.


Good on you dude.

It can't be surprising to you to hear this type of homophobia on a global forum.  I grew up in a suburb of Toronto, and there was definitely homophobia in the culture at the time...it wouldn't have been fun to go to school as a gay person.  But I've been downtown for awhile now, and it's good to see those that have homophobia are the outsiders now.  There's a pretty large gay population that can enjoy their life without (or with minimal) ignorant judgement from others.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Slow death on June 16, 2017, 11:31:24 PM
From the At what age should one be married? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19592122#msg19592122) thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19592122#msg19592122:

Guys not before 14, and gals not before 12.

 ;D

If you see 2 gays, how will you know who the man is, and who is the woman?

I'm just curious ;D


Wow - unbelievable how much ignorance and stereotyping there is in the modern world.

My partner and I adopted two children at birth.  They both have turned out to be very impressive and beautiful human beings. 

If only heterosexual couples had to go through the same countless home-study interviews, drug tests and medical physicals just to prepare to have a child -- the world would certainly be a better place.


Good on you dude.

It can't be surprising to you to hear this type of homophobia on a global forum.  I grew up in a suburb of Toronto, and there was definitely homophobia in the culture at the time...it wouldn't have been fun to go to school as a gay person.  But I've been downtown for awhile now, and it's good to see those that have homophobia are the outsiders now.  There's a pretty large gay population that can enjoy their life without (or with minimal) ignorant judgement from others.

In my country, gays live without discrimination.



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: CozImYourPrince on June 17, 2017, 01:53:57 AM
So whats the sense of having a boy and a girl created by God if we're just gonna pair both male together and female as well. Some countries adopted gay marriage but I do respect that. But I don't if that's a good idea :/


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sadlife on June 17, 2017, 03:04:53 AM
To the eyes of religions and religious people same sex marriage is considered a sin but to me i dont really know what's right or true in this world anymore because the world is govern by dirty minded adults. Has any same sex marriage couple had manage to work out ? Like for example is there any gay couple has manage to properly raise a kid until he turns into an adult?
If they did then same sex marriage is probably not bad and also it could lessen the number of orphan childrens. There might some negative effects about this same sex marriage like discrimanation and bullying but as long as they raise the child properly into a fine person then it's all good.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: CARrency on June 17, 2017, 04:44:14 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

I don't know why homosexuality is illegal and be needed to punished by death, they are just a bunch of people being true to themselves, we can't just ignore the fact that they want their life what they want it to be, they don't want to regret not being true to themselves, why do we need to stop them.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on June 17, 2017, 06:11:28 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

I don't know why homosexuality is illegal and be needed to punished by death, they are just a bunch of people being true to themselves, we can't just ignore the fact that they want their life what they want it to be, they don't want to regret not being true to themselves, why do we need to stop them.

Ignorant folks think that gay people should be obligated to live a lie their entire life, and pretend that they're straight so that they can gain the wonderful acceptance of an ignoramus.

It's not a logical way to think...just a result of insecurity and brainwashing.

What's also kind of ironic, is the amount of pedophilia that men have with young boys, which the church has become well known for.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Bunsomjelican on June 27, 2017, 08:18:28 PM
In my opinion some countries are opposing same sex marriage because of their religion ,principles and their beliefs.
Even we living in democratic country they're are beliefs that we considered for.
That's true, like in my country most of the officials in our government are opposing in this kind of adoption about same sex marriage, though some few of the officials are pushing it through. But for me I don't agree on this matter.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Peregrines on June 29, 2017, 04:41:10 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

Im not against gay marraige and adoptation. As long as this couple has good intention why they want to adopt and as long as they will be responsible parents.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: SoulBargain on June 29, 2017, 07:02:03 AM
The main argue I've heard is that the child will fare badly as a result of it. Whether it is true or not is another question, but I think I saw a local study some time ago that gave that argument some credit. I'm on phone at the moment, so I don't really feel like trying to that study now though (and it wouldn't be in English anyway).

Personally, I am a little bit hesitant, but if it can be proven that a child growing up with parents of the same sex will have an equally good childhood as those coming from a "normal" family, then I do not see any problem with it.

As long as the society that the kids together with their gay parents are open minded then I see no problem to that and I ahve watched a real life story regarding a boy growing up has no problem with his foster parent but the real struggle is in his social life which kids would tease him and in much easier word they bully him. Nonetheless, the story ends that he realized what other people says doesn't matter because what matters is that his foster loves him and he loves him too more than his real parents should.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: The One on June 29, 2017, 08:12:10 AM
A child needs money then love..If you have the 2 then all will be good with your child..

Now people could say love then money?..
Nappies clothes food shelter before love ;)

A child will suffer more because they are poor    than the parents being gay..

We in the UK don't care who your parents are as long as they hurt no one     and you are happy ;D



Who is "we"? A small minority of loony leftie degenerate doesn't speak for the majority.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Okurkabinladin on June 29, 2017, 08:44:04 AM

Wow - unbelievable how much ignorance and stereotyping there is in the modern world.

My partner and I adopted two children at birth.  They both have turned out to be very impressive and beautiful human beings. 

If only heterosexual couples had to go through the same countless home-study interviews, drug tests and medical physicals just to prepare to have a child -- the world would certainly be a better place.


Good on you dude.

It can't be surprising to you to hear this type of homophobia on a global forum.  I grew up in a suburb of Toronto, and there was definitely homophobia in the culture at the time...it wouldn't have been fun to go to school as a gay person.  But I've been downtown for awhile now, and it's good to see those that have homophobia are the outsiders now.  There's a pretty large gay population that can enjoy their life without (or with minimal) ignorant judgement from others.

Since homosexuality is fringe sexual deviation, would your Toronto group be so large, if you werent actively brainswashing young people into it?

You Canadians actually made "not adressing people by their favourite gender" to be a hate crime.

Not adressing homos by any of made up genders is comparable to Holocaust denial, you have to be proud of yourself. To the rest of the world, you are now officiallly degenerates.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/17/keeping-campaign-promise-justin-trudeau-moves-to-protect-transgender-canadians/?utm_term=.c09e3362b278 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/17/keeping-campaign-promise-justin-trudeau-moves-to-protect-transgender-canadians/?utm_term=.c09e3362b278)

You sacrificed freedom of speech for what is essentially a fashion. Disgusting.

http://dailysignal.com/2017/06/19/canadians-face-hate-crimes-using-wrong-gender-pronouns/ (http://dailysignal.com/2017/06/19/canadians-face-hate-crimes-using-wrong-gender-pronouns/)


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: The One on June 29, 2017, 09:07:32 AM
I am against the Hindus sleeping with the brothers and producing spastic children  
then my taxes are getting spent on Hindu spastic children Knowing quite well what would happen if they sleep with the brothers and first cousins ..You will most likely produce a spastic child ..
And i am the person who as to pay for it..

Now because of your dirty Hindu habits i suffer because my taxes go on paying your HINDU SPASTIC CHILD.
And most Hindus are on peanuts    they cost the me a lot in taxes to support SPASTIC HINDUS..

Now with gay people they are the inventors the creators the arts    computer scientist       geniuses
 THEY MAKE THINGS ..MAKE MONEY

A gay as cost me nothing except invented something that most people use or will use ;)..
SPASTIC HINDU   will invent nothing except take my taxes for a wheel chair..


A straight boy Hindu SLEEPS WITH THE SISTER..A GAY ONE SLEEPS WITH HIS BROTHER   :D :D.

Who pays for all the extremely expensive drugs treatment for gay people catching HIV/AIDS... erm... oh yes taxpayers. If you don't fancy paying for Hindu S child then why do you fancy paying for gay people disease.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: craked5 on June 29, 2017, 09:48:57 AM
Most of people here are not only dumb, they're also delusional illogical and irrational.

OF COURSE gays should have the right to adopt. That's the main reason there are gay people.

In all other animal species, especially mamals, you see gay couples taking care of the children that have lost their parents. Pengouins for example are very famous for it.

Anyone thinking a child is better alone than with gay parents shouldn't be allowed to have one (a child) xD


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: craked5 on June 29, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
I am against the Hindus sleeping with the brothers and producing spastic children 
then my taxes are getting spent on Hindu spastic children Knowing quite well what would happen if they sleep with the brothers and first cousins ..You will most likely produce a spastic child ..
And i am the person who as to pay for it..

Now because of your dirty Hindu habits i suffer because my taxes go on paying your HINDU SPASTIC CHILD.
And most Hindus are on peanuts    they cost the me a lot in taxes to support SPASTIC HINDUS..

Now with gay people they are the inventors the creators the arts    computer scientist       geniuses
 THEY MAKE THINGS ..MAKE MONEY

A gay as cost me nothing except invented something that most people use or will use ;)..
SPASTIC HINDU   will invent nothing except take my taxes for a wheel chair..


A straight boy Hindu SLEEPS WITH THE SISTER..A GAY ONE SLEEPS WITH HIS BROTHER   :D :D.

Who pays for all the extremely drugs treatment for gay people catching HIV/AIDS... erm... oh yes taxpayers. If you don't fancy paying for Hindu S child then why do you fancy paying for gay people disease.

Lol where are you from? Middle Ages?
So if a specific portion of your population is more affected by a disease what do you do? You focus prevention and communication while trying to find specific solutions or you stop paying their medical bills?

Man I don't know where you live but I'm damn sure I don't want to be your neighboor xD


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: skinomanl on June 29, 2017, 09:53:32 AM
It's not normal when gays want to adopt a child, because they can not fully bring it up and the child can get a distorted perception of reality. 2 fathers or 2 mothers can not give birth to a child naturally and do not need to violate this pattern.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Okurkabinladin on June 29, 2017, 09:59:10 AM
I am against the Hindus sleeping with the brothers and producing spastic children 
then my taxes are getting spent on Hindu spastic children Knowing quite well what would happen if they sleep with the brothers and first cousins ..You will most likely produce a spastic child ..
And i am the person who as to pay for it..

Now because of your dirty Hindu habits i suffer because my taxes go on paying your HINDU SPASTIC CHILD.
And most Hindus are on peanuts    they cost the me a lot in taxes to support SPASTIC HINDUS..

Now with gay people they are the inventors the creators the arts    computer scientist       geniuses
 THEY MAKE THINGS ..MAKE MONEY

A gay as cost me nothing except invented something that most people use or will use ;)..
SPASTIC HINDU   will invent nothing except take my taxes for a wheel chair..


A straight boy Hindu SLEEPS WITH THE SISTER..A GAY ONE SLEEPS WITH HIS BROTHER   :D :D.

Who pays for all the extremely drugs treatment for gay people catching HIV/AIDS... erm... oh yes taxpayers. If you don't fancy paying for Hindu S child then why do you fancy paying for gay people disease.

Lol where are you from? Middle Ages?
So if a specific portion of your population is more affected by a disease what do you do? You focus prevention and communication while trying to find specific solutions or you stop paying their medical bills?

Man I don't know where you live but I'm damn sure I don't want to be your neighboor xD

You have guts to write that after (highlighted in your post) hateful shit you spew on poster above? Now, I do get why you and popcorn are militant atheists, your are both basically gay, semen eating, sterile descendants of Third Reich.

You have the guts to call someone inbred for disagreeing you and claim he is taking your money from you, than you go on to tell him, that he is obliged to pay for disease your group is reponsible for.

Look into the mirror.

On way or another, you are not fit for upbringing children of someone (anyone) else. Because you are not fit to take care even for yourself.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Slow death on June 29, 2017, 10:10:16 AM
I am against the Hindus sleeping with the brothers and producing spastic children 
then my taxes are getting spent on Hindu spastic children Knowing quite well what would happen if they sleep with the brothers and first cousins ..You will most likely produce a spastic child ..
And i am the person who as to pay for it..

Now because of your dirty Hindu habits i suffer because my taxes go on paying your HINDU SPASTIC CHILD.
And most Hindus are on peanuts    they cost the me a lot in taxes to support SPASTIC HINDUS..

Now with gay people they are the inventors the creators the arts    computer scientist       geniuses
 THEY MAKE THINGS ..MAKE MONEY

A gay as cost me nothing except invented something that most people use or will use ;)..
SPASTIC HINDU   will invent nothing except take my taxes for a wheel chair..


A straight boy Hindu SLEEPS WITH THE SISTER..A GAY ONE SLEEPS WITH HIS BROTHER   :D :D.

Who pays for all the extremely drugs treatment for gay people catching HIV/AIDS... erm... oh yes taxpayers. If you don't fancy paying for Hindu S child then why do you fancy paying for gay people disease.

@popcorn1

ha ha ha ha ha ha

You made me laugh a lot, I did not know this custom of the Hindus, but I must agree with the point of @The One, what would be the difference between gays and Hindus?

As @the one said, you will pay for the all extremely drugs treatment for gay people catching HIV/AIDS




Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: The One on June 29, 2017, 02:43:33 PM
Same-sex marriage does not make any sense. Marriage is the union of man and woman. Hence "same-sex union of man and woman" does not make sense, man and woman are different sexes. Politicians have no business changing the definition of any words in the dictionary. As usual politicians like to stir up trouble and get society to fight among each other so they can tax more to solve the problems that they created.

A simple solution is to create two new words. One word that says "union of man and man" and another word that says "union of woman and woman." No fighting necessary.

As for adoption by gay people. A big no. Gay people can not procreate, simple as that. A straight couple splitting up, the child tend to stay with the mother on that basis that mother knows best. SO how can two blokes adopt? Researches showed that single parenting is terrible and created havoc in society and the welfare system. Children brought up by straight couple for the duration of their childhood are more balance and well behaved, due to having both mother and father inputs. Children who don't have a dad or mum tend to be problematic. So gay couple should not adopt or use any other means to have a child at all.

Since few gay couple have had children there is not enough data to make any meaningful study to the long-term effect. However we can look at single parenting and extrapolate the effects. However recently a gay couple had two grown up children adopted in the late 1990s. One hated their so-called dads and hated the fact they never had a mother. I expect more of that in the future.

I am very very happy to have a great family of mum and dad, sisters and brothers, and so on, and no loony leftie degenerate in my upbringing. I would not deny any innocent child the same pleasure that i had. Putting any child with gay couple just to satisfy their dogma and political correctness is child abuse.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Lieldoryn on June 29, 2017, 02:48:50 PM
Sleeping with brothers is quite another. Is incest. For me it's still better than same-sex relationships. Not only Indians, but the Jews were the common practice of incest. If you believe the Bible then all people are descended from the same family. But to call gay marriage a family I do not dare. To allow them to raise children is for me a crime.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on June 29, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
Same-sex marriage does not make any sense. Marriage is the union of man and woman. Hence "same-sex union of man and woman" does not make sense, man and woman are different sexes. Politicians have no business changing the definition of any words in the dictionary. As usual politicians like to stir up trouble and get society to fight among each other so they can tax more to solve the problems that they created.

A simple solution is to create two new words. One word that says "union of man and man" and another word that says "union of woman and woman." No fighting necessary.

As for adoption by gay people. A big no. Gay people can not procreate, simple as that. A straight couple splitting up, the child tend to stay with the mother on that basis that mother knows best. SO how can two blokes adopt? Researches showed that single parenting is terrible and created havoc in society and the welfare system. Children brought up by straight couple for the duration of their childhood are more balance and well behaved, due to having both mother and father inputs. Children who don't have a dad or mum tend to be problematic. So gay couple should not adopt or use any other means to have a child at all.

Since few gay couple have had children there is not enough data to make any meaningful study to the long-term effect. However we can look at single parenting and extrapolate the effects. However recently a gay couple had two grown up children adopted in the late 1990s. One hated their so-called dads and hated the fact they never had a mother. I expect more of that in the future.

I am very very happy to have a great family of mum and dad, sisters and brothers, and so on, and no loony leftie degenerate in my upbringing. I would not deny any innocent child the same pleasure that i had. Putting any child with gay couple just to satisfy their dogma and political correctness is child abuse.

What is the impact to your life if gay marriage is legal vs. illegal?

What is the impact to your life if gay couples adopt children after being vetted?

There is no impact, and you have no authority to change anything.  So why try to control the lives of other people when it makes no difference to you?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: The One on June 29, 2017, 03:37:35 PM
Same-sex marriage does not make any sense. Marriage is the union of man and woman. Hence "same-sex union of man and woman" does not make sense, man and woman are different sexes. Politicians have no business changing the definition of any words in the dictionary. As usual politicians like to stir up trouble and get society to fight among each other so they can tax more to solve the problems that they created.

A simple solution is to create two new words. One word that says "union of man and man" and another word that says "union of woman and woman." No fighting necessary.

As for adoption by gay people. A big no. Gay people can not procreate, simple as that. A straight couple splitting up, the child tend to stay with the mother on that basis that mother knows best. SO how can two blokes adopt? Researches showed that single parenting is terrible and created havoc in society and the welfare system. Children brought up by straight couple for the duration of their childhood are more balance and well behaved, due to having both mother and father inputs. Children who don't have a dad or mum tend to be problematic. So gay couple should not adopt or use any other means to have a child at all.

Since few gay couple have had children there is not enough data to make any meaningful study to the long-term effect. However we can look at single parenting and extrapolate the effects. However recently a gay couple had two grown up children adopted in the late 1990s. One hated their so-called dads and hated the fact they never had a mother. I expect more of that in the future.

I am very very happy to have a great family of mum and dad, sisters and brothers, and so on, and no loony leftie degenerate in my upbringing. I would not deny any innocent child the same pleasure that i had. Putting any child with gay couple just to satisfy their dogma and political correctness is child abuse.

What is the impact to your life if gay marriage is legal vs. illegal?

What is the impact to your life if gay couples adopt children after being vetted?

There is no impact, and you have no authority to change anything.  So why try to control the lives of other people when it makes no difference to you?

Simple a matter of English language standard.

Not talking about my life but the life of an innocent child.

The word "impact" is irrelevant. I didn't use it. Who has authority? You, politicians, gay people? What about the child's natural rights to natural life free from harm. Who then speaks for the child? You are an idiot. You think it is about me. It isn't, it is about the child. Who then has the right to exercise control over a child well-being, since a child does not have sufficient intellect to take control?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on June 29, 2017, 09:39:53 PM
Same-sex marriage does not make any sense. Marriage is the union of man and woman. Hence "same-sex union of man and woman" does not make sense, man and woman are different sexes. Politicians have no business changing the definition of any words in the dictionary. As usual politicians like to stir up trouble and get society to fight among each other so they can tax more to solve the problems that they created.

A simple solution is to create two new words. One word that says "union of man and man" and another word that says "union of woman and woman." No fighting necessary.

As for adoption by gay people. A big no. Gay people can not procreate, simple as that. A straight couple splitting up, the child tend to stay with the mother on that basis that mother knows best. SO how can two blokes adopt? Researches showed that single parenting is terrible and created havoc in society and the welfare system. Children brought up by straight couple for the duration of their childhood are more balance and well behaved, due to having both mother and father inputs. Children who don't have a dad or mum tend to be problematic. So gay couple should not adopt or use any other means to have a child at all.

Since few gay couple have had children there is not enough data to make any meaningful study to the long-term effect. However we can look at single parenting and extrapolate the effects. However recently a gay couple had two grown up children adopted in the late 1990s. One hated their so-called dads and hated the fact they never had a mother. I expect more of that in the future.

I am very very happy to have a great family of mum and dad, sisters and brothers, and so on, and no loony leftie degenerate in my upbringing. I would not deny any innocent child the same pleasure that i had. Putting any child with gay couple just to satisfy their dogma and political correctness is child abuse.

What is the impact to your life if gay marriage is legal vs. illegal?

What is the impact to your life if gay couples adopt children after being vetted?

There is no impact, and you have no authority to change anything.  So why try to control the lives of other people when it makes no difference to you?

Simple a matter of English language standard.

Not talking about my life but the life of an innocent child.

The word "impact" is irrelevant. I didn't use it. Who has authority? You, politicians, gay people? What about the child's natural rights to natural life free from harm. Who then speaks for the child? You are an idiot. You think it is about me. It isn't, it is about the child. Who then has the right to exercise control over a child well-being, since a child does not have sufficient intellect to take control?

Excellent colour coding.

I definitely don't have any authority.  Gay people don't have authority either.  Government does have authority and controls your freedom.

So you think that every gay parent is terrible and every straight parent is amazing?  I could ask you what about the child's right to having a natural life that is free from harm with straight parents?  Do you not know children that were abused by their parents who are straight?  Don't you know kids that turned into sociopaths with straight parents?  You do know that serial killers have straight parents right?  Why aren't you standing up for those children?  Seems like you care so much about the kids right?  Not just homophobic?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on June 30, 2017, 02:08:08 PM
Same-sex marriage does not make any sense. Marriage is the union of man and woman. Hence "same-sex union of man and woman" does not make sense, man and woman are different sexes. Politicians have no business changing the definition of any words in the dictionary. As usual politicians like to stir up trouble and get society to fight among each other so they can tax more to solve the problems that they created.

A simple solution is to create two new words. One word that says "union of man and man" and another word that says "union of woman and woman." No fighting necessary.

As for adoption by gay people. A big no. Gay people can not procreate, simple as that. A straight couple splitting up, the child tend to stay with the mother on that basis that mother knows best. SO how can two blokes adopt? Researches showed that single parenting is terrible and created havoc in society and the welfare system. Children brought up by straight couple for the duration of their childhood are more balance and well behaved, due to having both mother and father inputs. Children who don't have a dad or mum tend to be problematic. So gay couple should not adopt or use any other means to have a child at all.

Since few gay couple have had children there is not enough data to make any meaningful study to the long-term effect. However we can look at single parenting and extrapolate the effects. However recently a gay couple had two grown up children adopted in the late 1990s. One hated their so-called dads and hated the fact they never had a mother. I expect more of that in the future.

I am very very happy to have a great family of mum and dad, sisters and brothers, and so on, and no loony leftie degenerate in my upbringing. I would not deny any innocent child the same pleasure that i had. Putting any child with gay couple just to satisfy their dogma and political correctness is child abuse.

What is the impact to your life if gay marriage is legal vs. illegal?

What is the impact to your life if gay couples adopt children after being vetted?

There is no impact, and you have no authority to change anything.  So why try to control the lives of other people when it makes no difference to you?

Simple a matter of English language standard.

Not talking about my life but the life of an innocent child.

The word "impact" is irrelevant. I didn't use it. Who has authority? You, politicians, gay people? What about the child's natural rights to natural life free from harm. Who then speaks for the child? You are an idiot. You think it is about me. It isn't, it is about the child. Who then has the right to exercise control over a child well-being, since a child does not have sufficient intellect to take control?

Excellent colour coding.

I definitely don't have any authority.  Gay people don't have authority either.  Government does have authority and controls your freedom.

So you think that every gay parent is terrible and every straight parent is amazing?  I could ask you what about the child's right to having a natural life that is free from harm with straight parents?  Do you not know children that were abused by their parents who are straight?  Don't you know kids that turned into sociopaths with straight parents?  You do know that serial killers have straight parents right?  Why aren't you standing up for those children?  Seems like you care so much about the kids right?  Not just homophobic?

I think every gay parent is terrible because being gay is a fatal disease which cannot be cured. Every straight parent I am not saying is perfect but surely is better suited to raise a child rather than a gay parent. Here in Italy is being done a lot in favor of the gays but I spit on them, the worst cancer of our society. Cancer needs to be cured. I am totally against same sex marriage.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on June 30, 2017, 02:44:21 PM
Same-sex marriage does not make any sense. Marriage is the union of man and woman. Hence "same-sex union of man and woman" does not make sense, man and woman are different sexes. Politicians have no business changing the definition of any words in the dictionary. As usual politicians like to stir up trouble and get society to fight among each other so they can tax more to solve the problems that they created.

A simple solution is to create two new words. One word that says "union of man and man" and another word that says "union of woman and woman." No fighting necessary.

As for adoption by gay people. A big no. Gay people can not procreate, simple as that. A straight couple splitting up, the child tend to stay with the mother on that basis that mother knows best. SO how can two blokes adopt? Researches showed that single parenting is terrible and created havoc in society and the welfare system. Children brought up by straight couple for the duration of their childhood are more balance and well behaved, due to having both mother and father inputs. Children who don't have a dad or mum tend to be problematic. So gay couple should not adopt or use any other means to have a child at all.

Since few gay couple have had children there is not enough data to make any meaningful study to the long-term effect. However we can look at single parenting and extrapolate the effects. However recently a gay couple had two grown up children adopted in the late 1990s. One hated their so-called dads and hated the fact they never had a mother. I expect more of that in the future.

I am very very happy to have a great family of mum and dad, sisters and brothers, and so on, and no loony leftie degenerate in my upbringing. I would not deny any innocent child the same pleasure that i had. Putting any child with gay couple just to satisfy their dogma and political correctness is child abuse.

What is the impact to your life if gay marriage is legal vs. illegal?

What is the impact to your life if gay couples adopt children after being vetted?

There is no impact, and you have no authority to change anything.  So why try to control the lives of other people when it makes no difference to you?

Simple a matter of English language standard.

Not talking about my life but the life of an innocent child.

The word "impact" is irrelevant. I didn't use it. Who has authority? You, politicians, gay people? What about the child's natural rights to natural life free from harm. Who then speaks for the child? You are an idiot. You think it is about me. It isn't, it is about the child. Who then has the right to exercise control over a child well-being, since a child does not have sufficient intellect to take control?

Excellent colour coding.

I definitely don't have any authority.  Gay people don't have authority either.  Government does have authority and controls your freedom.

So you think that every gay parent is terrible and every straight parent is amazing?  I could ask you what about the child's right to having a natural life that is free from harm with straight parents?  Do you not know children that were abused by their parents who are straight?  Don't you know kids that turned into sociopaths with straight parents?  You do know that serial killers have straight parents right?  Why aren't you standing up for those children?  Seems like you care so much about the kids right?  Not just homophobic?

I think every gay parent is terrible because being gay is a fatal disease which cannot be cured. Every straight parent I am not saying is perfect but surely is better suited to raise a child rather than a gay parent. Here in Italy is being done a lot in favor of the gays but I spit on them, the worst cancer of our society. Cancer needs to be cured. I am totally against same sex marriage.

Fatal disease is probably not the right term to use lol.  It's definitely not fatal.  What have gay people done to you for you to despise them?  What if you have a child that is gay?  Is it every gay person's obligation to pretend to be straight to satisfy your personal desire of having 100% straight society?  If so, are you willing to pretend for some other ignorant person that doesn't accept you?  And if you're not willing to pretend for strangers, then it shouldn't be expected for anyone to pretend for you.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Lieldoryn on June 30, 2017, 02:58:58 PM
Yesterday, the Bundestag adopted a decision on legalization of same-sex marriage. Is this some kind of epidemic of dementia. The people themselves are destroying their life, and then trying to overcome the effects. How can you tolerate this idiocy?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Be_Happy on June 30, 2017, 03:23:09 PM
I think every gay parent is terrible because being gay is a fatal disease which cannot be cured. Every straight parent I am not saying is perfect but surely is better suited to raise a child rather than a gay parent. Here in Italy is being done a lot in favor of the gays but I spit on them, the worst cancer of our society. Cancer needs to be cured. I am totally against same sex marriage.

Homosexuality is a terrible disease, but not so deadly and there are examples of successful treatment. Sadly, many do not recognize this phenomenon as a disease and do not understand why they should be treated.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Shamie1002 on June 30, 2017, 10:59:35 PM
I live in a religoius country, and yes same-sex marriage is illegal. But being a part of LGBT is respected nowadays, before they were bullied.
I have nothing against LGBT, some studies say that its a hormonal thing that leads to femininity at masculinity.
But Marriage is a sacrament and joing two man or two woman is a disrespect to the church.
If they want to live together then they should if this would make them happy enough to enjoy life.
Love for everyone right ?

When it comes to adoption, some studies also says that gay couple can become a much better parents than straight ones.
But gay couple should think about the child's psychological aspects specially when it grows up.
A child will be curious enough to see how is it possible that he has two father or two mother. This may lead to something else. Guidance is not enough for a child who are heart-broken by their parents. Few, maybe can be strong enough to be proud about it.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: mybedisall4mee on June 30, 2017, 11:29:09 PM
They say the problem is that the kiddo won't grow up with a good mental state or similar, it sounds stupid


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: RiverLavoomy on July 01, 2017, 12:02:26 AM
I don't see anything wrong with this, some gay couples can give more attention and love to a human than straight couples.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: siti25 on July 01, 2017, 02:00:44 AM
I am an anti homosexual person, I do not approve of homosexuality. Humans are created in 2 types, men and women, and normally they are a couple for each, so homosexual is not normal anymore, I even did not approve same-sex marriage, let alone to adopt a child.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: zz0233 on July 01, 2017, 02:05:50 AM
I am very difficult to accept homosexuals, I feel they are very uncoordinated, and easy to mislead the child's sexual orientation, so I put an end to homosexuals.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: maopao on July 01, 2017, 02:31:15 AM
I am very difficult to accept homosexuals, I feel they are very uncoordinated, and easy to mislead the child's sexual orientation, so I put an end to homosexuals.
I very much agree with your point of view, I also feel that homosexuality should not exist, from the original Adam and Eve we can understand.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on July 01, 2017, 02:34:57 AM
I am very difficult to accept homosexuals, I feel they are very uncoordinated, and easy to mislead the child's sexual orientation, so I put an end to homosexuals.

They are uncoordinated? Uncoordinated means badly organized. Did you really meant this or did you meant something else? Because as far as I know, the LGBT community is one of the best organized societies. They have solid lobbies to push with their demands.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: millionaireshs on July 01, 2017, 02:44:17 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

I believe that happens because of the influence of the church. They always to be on good but they didn't know that they are promoting rasicm, unequality. Do they think it was good?? I don't think so.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: altgamerf4 on July 01, 2017, 12:40:16 PM
I am very difficult to accept homosexuals, I feel they are very uncoordinated, and easy to mislead the child's sexual orientation, so I put an end to homosexuals.

Yes, the child in most cases takes an example from the parents and in the future this innocent child may want to create a homosexual family only because his parents were gay. The child needs maternal weasel and father protection.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Lancusters on July 01, 2017, 12:55:07 PM
I am very difficult to accept homosexuals, I feel they are very uncoordinated, and easy to mislead the child's sexual orientation, so I put an end to homosexuals.

Yes, the child in most cases takes an example from the parents and in the future this innocent child may want to create a homosexual family only because his parents were gay. The child needs maternal weasel and father protection.
A very good idea. Only I can not understand why in different countries of the world adopted laws which contribute to the promotion of same-sex marriage. In the British Parliament the largest percentage of gays. Could such a situation in the world, and we don't know.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on July 01, 2017, 03:56:14 PM
I am very difficult to accept homosexuals, I feel they are very uncoordinated, and easy to mislead the child's sexual orientation, so I put an end to homosexuals.

Yes, the child in most cases takes an example from the parents and in the future this innocent child may want to create a homosexual family only because his parents were gay. The child needs maternal weasel and father protection.
A very good idea. Only I can not understand why in different countries of the world adopted laws which contribute to the promotion of same-sex marriage. In the British Parliament the largest percentage of gays. Could such a situation in the world, and we don't know.

Because some countries are able to progress while other countries keep thousand year old traditions without questioning.

altgamerf4, if you think that a child (who was ditched by his/her straight parents) is going to grow up gay because he/she is raised by gay parents, then how is it that you ever get a gay person, because they're all coming from straight parents right?  Doesn't really work that way does it?  Otherwise every child of straight parents would be straight.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bombard1 on July 01, 2017, 07:20:47 PM
Personally, I do not, but much is played by society and country


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: drivingerosion on July 01, 2017, 09:12:28 PM
I think children would prefer having gay parents than living lone and without love.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: masterwakokok7 on July 01, 2017, 09:13:50 PM
Im not against gay marriage, as long as they do love each other why not. They have the right to love anyone they like. The idea of adoption by Gay couples is quite good in a way that they can build there own family and live like a normal people. But my only concern is how would other kids thinks towards the adopted ones. Bullying is very common nowadays and It can damage not only mentally but the emotional side of the kid which can lead to suicidal state. Overall, I do agree in Gay marriage and only on the idea of adoption.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Bagaji on July 13, 2017, 02:44:20 AM
As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on July 13, 2017, 03:28:00 AM
As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.

How about if someone is gay their entire life, get married to another gay person, and adopt a child who is straight.  Are they all going to hell?  And what if they all repent their "sin" before dying?  Then they all go to heaven?

How many gay people do you think are in hell right now, as you're reading this?  And how many pedophile priests are in heaven?  :D

And lol @ condemning in totality.  Get on a plane dude.  Go see the world.  :)


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: mk4 on July 13, 2017, 08:38:15 AM
As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.

How about if someone is gay their entire life, get married to another gay person, and adopt a child who is straight.  Are they all going to hell?  And what if they all repent their "sin" before dying?  Then they all go to heaven?

How many gay people do you think are in hell right now, as you're reading this?  And how many pedophile priests are in heaven?  :D

And lol @ condemning in totality.  Get on a plane dude.  Go see the world.  :)

Honestly, there is no way for us to know if the gay couple will go to hell or heaven. Also, if we assume that the gay couple goes to hell, why should the straight adopted child go to hell too as you implied? Because he/she had gay parents? Also, repentance isn't a one time instant thing. Repentance is not just saying you're sorry and you're instantly forgiven.

Also, who says those pedophile priests are in heaven? Being a priest isn't a free pass on going to heaven.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Xester on July 13, 2017, 09:58:54 AM
As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.

How about if someone is gay their entire life, get married to another gay person, and adopt a child who is straight.  Are they all going to hell?  And what if they all repent their "sin" before dying?  Then they all go to heaven?

How many gay people do you think are in hell right now, as you're reading this?  And how many pedophile priests are in heaven?  :D

And lol @ condemning in totality.  Get on a plane dude.  Go see the world.  :)

Lol.  I like the idea of travelling but maybe after I have enough earnings from bitcoins.  Well, we cannot also deny the fact that he was raised in a country which is conservative.  Also in our country the idea of gay marriage is strictly condemned by the church and other people, this gay couple vehemently give their points on their rights.  But I disagree with the idea of gay marriage, they could be a couple, living in the same house, but to be solemnized for me is not right.  But in the issue of adopting kids by the gay couple, I think it was just okay.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Prettygirl01315 on July 13, 2017, 11:45:18 AM
As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.

How about if someone is gay their entire life, get married to another gay person, and adopt a child who is straight.  Are they all going to hell?  And what if they all repent their "sin" before dying?  Then they all go to heaven?

How many gay people do you think are in hell right now, as you're reading this?  And how many pedophile priests are in heaven?  :D

And lol @ condemning in totality.  Get on a plane dude.  Go see the world.  :)

Lol.  I like the idea of travelling but maybe after I have enough earnings from bitcoins.  Well, we cannot also deny the fact that he was raised in a country which is conservative.  Also in our country the idea of gay marriage is strictly condemned by the church and other people, this gay couple vehemently give their points on their rights.  But I disagree with the idea of gay marriage, they could be a couple, living in the same house, but to be solemnized for me is not right.  But in the issue of adopting kids by the gay couple, I think it was just okay.
I have nothing against gay marriage since I have lots of gay couple friends even though I'm living in a Catholic and conservative country but it is already 2017 and we have to open our minds and hearts to the LGBT Community. I also have nothing against if these gay couples adopt a child as long as they can provide the neccessary things that the child needs and they will be good parents to the child. Everyone deserves to love and to be loved.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on July 14, 2017, 03:58:37 AM
As for me, am not in support of gay marriage. It is illegal in my country and an abomination in the eye's of God and should be condemned in totality. And at the same time am not in support of adoption, either by the gay couple or homosexual people for i believe if everyone become gay or homosexual as they are, would there be children anywhere for them to adopt. So since there have choose to be what they are i believe there is still room for them to repent and come back to Jesus Christ or face the consequences in Hell.

How about if someone is gay their entire life, get married to another gay person, and adopt a child who is straight.  Are they all going to hell?  And what if they all repent their "sin" before dying?  Then they all go to heaven?

How many gay people do you think are in hell right now, as you're reading this?  And how many pedophile priests are in heaven?  :D

And lol @ condemning in totality.  Get on a plane dude.  Go see the world.  :)

Lol.  I like the idea of travelling but maybe after I have enough earnings from bitcoins.  Well, we cannot also deny the fact that he was raised in a country which is conservative.  Also in our country the idea of gay marriage is strictly condemned by the church and other people, this gay couple vehemently give their points on their rights.  But I disagree with the idea of gay marriage, they could be a couple, living in the same house, but to be solemnized for me is not right.  But in the issue of adopting kids by the gay couple, I think it was just okay.

Well for the sake of getting to travel and opening your mind, let's hope your Bitcoin account does well lol.

But if your country is homophobic, those cultural beliefs and ideas have manipulated you.  You could have been born anywhere in the world, and there would be a different localized culture and belief system there.  Wouldn't it be better to question these ideas rationally and morally to see if it makes sense?

Imagine if you were born in a Buddhist or Jewish family.  Would you just be victim to a different set of ideas than you have now as a Catholic?  If you believe something just because the people around you do, there is no reasoning with that type of thinking.  Think about if your parents weren't Catholic - would you have found your way to it?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: VeronAncient on July 14, 2017, 04:23:13 AM
I disagree with same-sex marriage. Because it is not love but a sex disorder. Gays will not be able to give birth to offspring. How can a human being regenerate if married to one another because it is a disease.

I also disagree if gay couples adopt a child. Because the role of a father and a mother can not be roled by others. A man will play the role of how he becomes a father. So also with a mother would be better if roled by a woman. Because the affection of a father with a mother is different. A mother or a woman has more affection than a man. Because man = logic: feeling = 9: 1 and woman logic: feeling = 1: 9.
So if a child is cared for or adopted by a gay couple will undermine the growth of children and children will tend to imitate them.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: daniel08 on July 14, 2017, 05:26:53 AM
for me gay marriage  is ok as long as both of them is happy and not hurting other people , in some countries they accepting this kind of relationships but most countries do not because of discrimination .. and for the adoption , they can adopt as long as they can support the child , ,


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bitblackred on July 14, 2017, 09:08:28 PM
I think, it is okay for people to choose a partner based on their personal preferences, not on the law of the countries.
Adoption is also good, because ppl actually leave their people on the streets. It is better to have some parents than to have none.
It is just my opinion, I agitate no one.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bikihabana on July 15, 2017, 12:21:27 AM

For me the idea with marriage is that it is between two people only and what they can produce (deliver). So, as with the rest of nature, it is only a male and a female that can procreate. However, since much better understanding of homosexuality have been made (through research), it might be possible in future to determine at molecular (DNA) level if an individual will be homosexual at sexual maturity. In this case, it would be befitting if an orphan be placed with a homosexual couple.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Jovrick on July 16, 2017, 04:43:24 PM
Lol i think if they marry, how do they have children? And if all human beings in the world experience the same kind of injurious sickness, then where are the human descendants whether it will be the end of the world


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: glox on July 16, 2017, 05:45:55 PM
I predict that mostly gays are from western countries.

I think thats just because gay ppl in western countries are "visible" to others. In other countries gays don't tell that they are gay and live in a heterosexual relationship because they fear reprisals.

If gays would have right to adopt kids, these kids growing in gay family can understand it as normal thing and and they can become to be gays.

Science don't have a real answer to the question why and when someone become gay. But I don't think that more ppl will become gay because they have same sex parents. I mean most gay ppl were raised in heterosexual families :D
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Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: MySharktank5 on July 16, 2017, 08:58:40 PM
I support the marriage, but the adoption i think is more delicated.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: yoseph on July 16, 2017, 09:12:29 PM
I really pity the child who would be adopted in a gay home, is this a ploy for the children to become gay as well, The marriage is bad enough, should the children go through this as well. It shouldn't be so.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on July 17, 2017, 01:46:43 AM
I really pity the child who would be adopted in a gay home, is this a ploy for the children to become gay as well, The marriage is bad enough, should the children go through this as well. It shouldn't be so.

The kid is most likely to face taunts and bullying at the school. But the worst part is that, he/she is at least 50 times more likely than the kids from heterosexual homes to face sexual abuse. This is evident from studying the cases from the countries where homosexual adoption is legal.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: marjoree on July 17, 2017, 03:23:26 AM
Well, now look at it... gay people adopting babies thrown away by (presumably) straight people. Anyway, so there were actually studies and those found out that there were no negative effects? Good then. Orphans need families and allowing gay people increases the number of possible parents for them.

I think this became possible in Western countries because they got started with gay rights way earlier than others. Not sure if this tolerance will continue though, with right-wing leaders becoming more popular. This would take a long time to reach countries that currently don't allow same-sex unions. Probably at least 50 or so years after gay marriage is allowed would be the proper time to make adoption available, IMHO. That should allow time for some of the more bigoted in the population to die off first.

I really wouldn't suggest immediately allowing adoption right after same-sex marriage approval. The assholes might focus their anger on the kids instead (since they already failed to stop the parent marrying).

The main argue I've heard is that the child will fare badly as a result of it. Whether it is true or not is another question, but I think I saw a local study some time ago that gave that argument some credit. I'm on phone at the moment, so I don't really feel like trying to that study now though (and it wouldn't be in English anyway).

Personally, I am a little bit hesitant, but if it can be proven that a child growing up with parents of the same sex will have an equally good childhood as those coming from a "normal" family, then I do not see any problem with it.

The kids will only fare badly if the society their family belongs to look down on homosexual couples.
I agree with this. Though one's a gay it doesnt mean that they dont need a family. Adopting may help their unfulfilled needs or wants as a human, and as an orphan it is their right to have a guardian and Gays can provide it for them instead. I dont see any Wrongs as long as you can give love and care.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: gabmen on July 17, 2017, 11:54:01 AM
Well, now look at it... gay people adopting babies thrown away by (presumably) straight people. Anyway, so there were actually studies and those found out that there were no negative effects? Good then. Orphans need families and allowing gay people increases the number of possible parents for them.

I think this became possible in Western countries because they got started with gay rights way earlier than others. Not sure if this tolerance will continue though, with right-wing leaders becoming more popular. This would take a long time to reach countries that currently don't allow same-sex unions. Probably at least 50 or so years after gay marriage is allowed would be the proper time to make adoption available, IMHO. That should allow time for some of the more bigoted in the population to die off first.

I really wouldn't suggest immediately allowing adoption right after same-sex marriage approval. The assholes might focus their anger on the kids instead (since they already failed to stop the parent marrying).

The main argue I've heard is that the child will fare badly as a result of it. Whether it is true or not is another question, but I think I saw a local study some time ago that gave that argument some credit. I'm on phone at the moment, so I don't really feel like trying to that study now though (and it wouldn't be in English anyway).

Personally, I am a little bit hesitant, but if it can be proven that a child growing up with parents of the same sex will have an equally good childhood as those coming from a "normal" family, then I do not see any problem with it.

The kids will only fare badly if the society their family belongs to look down on homosexual couples.
I agree with this. Though one's a gay it doesnt mean that they dont need a family. Adopting may help their unfulfilled needs or wants as a human, and as an orphan it is their right to have a guardian and Gays can provide it for them instead. I dont see any Wrongs as long as you can give love and care.

Well today's society are more open now to gay couples and most doesn't really care about it. I personally don't have anything against it tough the challenge would for those in locations that doesn't support these kinds of union. The kid's growth may be quite challenging if their parent's aren't accepted by the society they belong to.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Jasad on July 17, 2017, 12:28:50 PM
for me gay marriage  is ok as long as both of them is happy and not hurting other people , in some countries they accepting this kind of relationships but most countries do not because of discrimination .. and for the adoption , they can adopt as long as they can support the child , ,
Some countries forbid gay marriages not because of discrimination, but because of abnormalities. The normal marriage and what should happen is a marriage between two people, one male and one female, not between men with men and women with women.If there is a case of discrimination, it is because the path they choose is not normal.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: CARrency on July 17, 2017, 12:49:48 PM
for me gay marriage  is ok as long as both of them is happy and not hurting other people , in some countries they accepting this kind of relationships but most countries do not because of discrimination .. and for the adoption , they can adopt as long as they can support the child , ,
Some countries forbid gay marriages not because of discrimination, but because of abnormalities. The normal marriage and what should happen is a marriage between two people, one male and one female, not between men with men and women with women.If there is a case of discrimination, it is because the path they choose is not normal.

But if you will be thinking about the balance we have in our society, it is good. Guys population than women is so far, it is like 4 is to 1. which make it hard for other guys to pick their lifetime partners. It is not I am siding with the gay marriage and adoption, its just that it levels the playing field for the women. There are memes that I saw saying that boys marrying another boy are the heroes that sacrifice for the other guys.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Cyberbits on July 17, 2017, 01:00:47 PM
Gay adoption is nothing new. Gays and lesbians have been adopting for a long time, but legislation has gradually changed, offering them more options than ever before. Some facts and issues are unique to this community.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: SugoiSenpai on July 17, 2017, 01:03:49 PM
For me personally, adoption is alright, i mean, every kid that has no parents are lonesome and has the right to be adopted. But for me the idea of "same sex marriage" isn't ideal and morally right. Aside from that we can compare this to the Principle of philosophy which is The principle of Identity, a subject or in this case a male/female cannot change his/her identity, for he/she is born a male/female. From my perspective growing up with a homosexual parents isn't normal, people is trying to change what they truly are, they keep wanting to be someone they cannot be, the adopted child that a homosexual will raise would not likely grow up normal, as to what a normal child would with a true mother and a true father. I agree to adoption but don't in Gay marriage.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: craked5 on July 17, 2017, 01:15:31 PM
I really pity the child who would be adopted in a gay home, is this a ploy for the children to become gay as well, The marriage is bad enough, should the children go through this as well. It shouldn't be so.

The kid is most likely to face taunts and bullying at the school. But the worst part is that, he/she is at least 50 times more likely than the kids from heterosexual homes to face sexual abuse. This is evident from studying the cases from the countries where homosexual adoption is legal.

Would have been great if you had provided any kind of study of course.
I mean it would have given some kind of legitimacy to your post.
Of course you can't because what you're saying is false but you could have tried.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Xester on July 17, 2017, 01:24:22 PM
for me gay marriage  is ok as long as both of them is happy and not hurting other people , in some countries they accepting this kind of relationships but most countries do not because of discrimination .. and for the adoption , they can adopt as long as they can support the child , ,
Some countries forbid gay marriages not because of discrimination, but because of abnormalities. The normal marriage and what should happen is a marriage between two people, one male and one female, not between men with men and women with women.If there is a case of discrimination, it is because the path they choose is not normal.

I agree with you.  It is not called discrimination because it is immoral to blessed and be in a holy sacrament the two person who are in both sex.  The church should only blessed and hold a ceremony for a couple on opposite sex.  Anyways gay people still have freedom to live in the same place and be a couple.  They can also adopt children as long as they can support them.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: savecoin on July 17, 2017, 01:57:41 PM
thats piece of shit you know


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: hyunee on July 20, 2017, 06:36:53 AM
I'm not agreeing to gay marriage. Since God has only made a man and a woman. But I'm not saying that I'm opposing the 2nd genders (which are the bisexual, trans..). It is also not good to adopt if ever gay marriage has been approved because of the psychological matters that will inherit of the adopted child.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: GG_monster on July 20, 2017, 11:44:06 AM
I am against homosexual marriage and against propaganda of such perverted attitudes. Children should not see this, much less be adopted by such sick people.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: izza123 on July 20, 2017, 12:22:37 PM
I cant imagine living in a place where somebody can be punished for homosexuality. Take a second to think about that, somebody can actually be punished or killed for having feelings for another man. I don't think its necessarily a choice but even if it was why would it matter? Why should anybody care who somebody loves or has feelings for? how insecure do you have to be to be afraid of gay people? Of course in the same vein they are the same people as heterosexual people and should be entitled to the same adoption rights.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: ScriptYoYo on July 20, 2017, 12:33:34 PM
Homosexual people should not have the right to adopt, because they are huge peddlers of deadly diseases and they are mentally unwell. 2 men who boil testosterone will not be able to torture a child, because they are nature-oriented to protect and ensure offspring.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on July 20, 2017, 09:59:41 PM
I cant imagine living in a place where somebody can be punished for homosexuality. Take a second to think about that, somebody can actually be punished or killed for having feelings for another man. I don't think its necessarily a choice but even if it was why would it matter? Why should anybody care who somebody loves or has feelings for? how insecure do you have to be to be afraid of gay people? Of course in the same vein they are the same people as heterosexual people and should be entitled to the same adoption rights.

Most of the people here live in places with homophobic cultures and generally uncomfortable with it.  I'd say religious brainwashing would have a lot to do with it as well.

They'd rather have children grow up in an orphanage than allow a gay couple to adopt.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: sometag4lifer on July 20, 2017, 10:42:49 PM
My country is against the gay marriage and i really don't care, i support it.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: gabmen on July 22, 2017, 03:26:48 PM
My country is against the gay marriage and i really don't care, i support it.

And there are still a lot of countries against it. Strict musim countries have laws against homosexuality and though i don't have anything against it, if you're living in such country, i think it would be best to just adhere to the law.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: The_prodigy on July 22, 2017, 03:43:42 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

I believe that gay couples should have a right to express themseleves however I am still not fully resolved on the right for then to have marriage as I also have my own beliefs however woth adoption if they have the capacity to do so and they are emotionally able then Ithink there would be nothing wrong i. That set up as I think gender does not make a man or woman better than others.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on July 22, 2017, 04:03:45 PM
My country is against the gay marriage and i really don't care, i support it.

And there are still a lot of countries against it. Strict musim countries have laws against homosexuality and though i don't have anything against it, if you're living in such country, i think it would be best to just adhere to the law.

Homosexual people would simply need to emigrate from environments like that to a place where it is accepted, which can be difficult depending on where they live.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 22, 2017, 04:51:32 PM
My country is against the gay marriage and i really don't care, i support it.

And there are still a lot of countries against it. Strict musim countries have laws against homosexuality and though i don't have anything against it, if you're living in such country, i think it would be best to just adhere to the law.

Homosexual people would simply need to emigrate from environments like that to a place where it is accepted, which can be difficult depending on where they live.

There are sodomites in almost all the nations around the globe. Even in regressive nations such as Saudi Arabia, there are hundreds of thousands of sodomites. The rich sheikhs even import male sex slaves from countries such as Tanzania and Afghanistan for their use. As long as it is not in the open, no one is going to harass them too much.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on July 22, 2017, 05:19:25 PM
My country is against the gay marriage and i really don't care, i support it.

And there are still a lot of countries against it. Strict musim countries have laws against homosexuality and though i don't have anything against it, if you're living in such country, i think it would be best to just adhere to the law.

Homosexual people would simply need to emigrate from environments like that to a place where it is accepted, which can be difficult depending on where they live.

There are sodomites in almost all the nations around the globe. Even in regressive nations such as Saudi Arabia, there are hundreds of thousands of sodomites. The rich sheikhs even import male sex slaves from countries such as Tanzania and Afghanistan for their use. As long as it is not in the open, no one is going to harass them too much.

Well if your rich then yeah things like that are possible.  But for the average joe that's not looking for a sex slave, just a relationship, it would need to stay hidden right?  So either hide it for life / pretend to be straight or emigrate.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on July 23, 2017, 04:15:37 AM
Well if your rich then yeah things like that are possible.  But for the average joe that's not looking for a sex slave, just a relationship, it would need to stay hidden right?  So either hide it for life / pretend to be straight or emigrate.

It is always very risky to be a homosexual in countries such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. If you are rich and have powerful connections, then you may be able to escape. Else, they will slap a death sentence over you and you'll be beheaded in no time.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: salinizm on July 23, 2017, 07:20:50 AM
I am not against gay marriage and adoption. Love is love. Love does not care about whether you are straight or gay. For that reason , LGBTQ people have right to get married whoever they want to and If they want to have children, They also have right to make it . Because marriage and having children are natural human rights . One way or another, LGBTQ people are as human as straight people.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: LeoEspansq on July 23, 2017, 08:10:27 AM
The purpose of marriage is the creation of a family in which a child can naturally be born. But how can a man become pregnant from a man? This is a mental disorder, not love.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Malsetid on July 25, 2017, 09:46:46 AM
The purpose of marriage is the creation of a family in which a child can naturally be born. But how can a man become pregnant from a man? This is a mental disorder, not love.

What's wrong if two men or two women love each other? Religion is the only one tabooing these kind of love. Love is love and it knows no boundaries. We shouldn't be judgemental about it and i think gay couples whether they're men or women needs to be respected. Though religion should also be respected and gay couples shouldn't be forcing like church marriages and the likes that are not allowed in a certain religion. They should be allowed to be married in civil though and enjoy he benefits of any lawful husband and wife.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: matuson on July 25, 2017, 09:52:21 AM
The purpose of marriage is the creation of a family in which a child can naturally be born. But how can a man become pregnant from a man? This is a mental disorder, not love.

What's wrong if two men or two women love each other? Religion is the only one tabooing these kind of love. Love is love and it knows no boundaries. We shouldn't be judgemental about it and i think gay couples whether they're men or women needs to be respected. Though religion should also be respected and gay couples shouldn't be forcing like church marriages and the likes that are not allowed in a certain religion. They should be allowed to be married in civil though and enjoy he benefits of any lawful husband and wife.
I don't think so. I have nothing to do with religion. I'm an atheist, but I think it's very bad. It is a mental disorder or a genetic malfunction in the body. Should not be allowed to same-sex marriages become commonplace, and be allowed to adopt children gay is actually a crime.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: AmiranAbdul on July 25, 2017, 01:24:55 PM
The purpose of marriage is the creation of a family in which a child can naturally be born. But how can a man become pregnant from a man? This is a mental disorder, not love.

What's wrong if two men or two women love each other? Religion is the only one tabooing these kind of love. Love is love and it knows no boundaries. We shouldn't be judgemental about it and i think gay couples whether they're men or women needs to be respected. Though religion should also be respected and gay couples shouldn't be forcing like church marriages and the likes that are not allowed in a certain religion. They should be allowed to be married in civil though and enjoy he benefits of any lawful husband and wife.

Religion has nothing to do with the problem of homosexuality, because now there are many atheists, but psychologists have long proven that it is a psychiatric disorder. Such people need to treat their mental disorder and then you can create a normal family, and not hide your illness under the hatred of religion.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: babsalt1975 on July 25, 2017, 01:43:18 PM
Marriage is traditionally a union between a man and a woman. That means, people of opposite sex. It is this union that bears the fruit of children. Same sex marriages do not bear the fruits of children. Therefore you depend on adoption where you do not have any blood relations with the children. Logically speaking, there is no sense in gay marriages.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Xester on July 25, 2017, 02:19:57 PM
Marriage is traditionally a union between a man and a woman. That means, people of opposite sex. It is this union that bears the fruit of children. Same sex marriages do not bear the fruits of children. Therefore you depend on adoption where you do not have any blood relations with the children. Logically speaking, there is no sense in gay marriages.

Definitely.  Marriage is a union of two people of opposit3 sex.  So there is no reason that they will allow marriage between gay people.  They have the right to love and be happy but for me in my opinion, to be blessed and married in a church by a priest or pastor is inappropriate.  But their are countries who legalized the bond of same sex marriage.  But I do not want that to become legal here in our country.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Cult on July 25, 2017, 02:20:40 PM
Religion is the root of all evil, in the West is the influence of Christianity that brought the persecution of many minorities, homosexuals included, with secularization and people losing their faith and diminished authority of the masters of absolute morality people are getting their rights back.

No gods, no masters.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: karansingh300698 on July 25, 2017, 02:28:39 PM
what i am about to say may seem a little orthodox, but gay marriages and adoption should definitely not be permitted.
Speaking purely in biological terms, sex produces offsprings. Evolution provides euphoria with sex as a means to promote reproductive pursuits in our ancestors, as a reward mechanism to increase survival chances of our species.
Homosexuality is one of those DNA tweaks, speaking a diffuse manner, which instead of increasing survival chances, decreases it. If a person feels attracted sexually to a same sex partner, it is just a form of psychiatric abnormality, a misfiring of neurons. This makes it come under the category of mental illness, and one definitely won't permit, say, a schizophrenic person to adopt a kid. It seems like a far cry from being homosexual, but its the same principle.
Although society's approach of excluding them is not entirely just either. They should be treated, as they are people and medical assistance is everyones right.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: oberotek on July 25, 2017, 02:29:38 PM
Gays are nasty  ;D


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: InsiderOfCrypto on July 25, 2017, 02:32:40 PM
Gays are nasty  ;D

They are naughty rabbits  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: darklus123 on July 25, 2017, 03:22:38 PM
I  can see no problem about gay marriage or same sex marriage. It is the right of each individual as long as they dont do something that is not good to see in the eyes of public that can influence or hurt other people


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: oberotek on July 25, 2017, 04:24:22 PM
would you suck Dick for BTC?


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: therewolfslim on July 25, 2017, 09:53:53 PM
I am very difficult to accept homosexuals, I feel they are very uncoordinated, and easy to mislead the child's sexual orientation, so I put an end to homosexuals.
You don't even know what "uncoordinated" is. I can tell you some of these couples do a better job than a straight couple.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on July 26, 2017, 02:17:42 AM
Gays are nasty  ;D

is that the reason why 50% of them are HIV positive? The gays are a strange group of people. They have little respect for life. They indulge in anal sex with hundreds, if not thousands of partners and most of the time they don't use any sort of protection.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: freeyourmind on July 26, 2017, 03:53:15 AM
Well if your rich then yeah things like that are possible.  But for the average joe that's not looking for a sex slave, just a relationship, it would need to stay hidden right?  So either hide it for life / pretend to be straight or emigrate.

It is always very risky to be a homosexual in countries such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. If you are rich and have powerful connections, then you may be able to escape. Else, they will slap a death sentence over you and you'll be beheaded in no time.

lol yeah I'm sure it's not the most popular thing in a muslim country.  But risk or not, it's not really a choice.  You can't just choose to be gay or straight.  I wonder what the deal is with gay people in countries that have no tolerance for it.  I would assume that it just remains hidden in public and from friends and family.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: matchi2011 on July 26, 2017, 04:37:48 AM
Well if your rich then yeah things like that are possible.  But for the average joe that's not looking for a sex slave, just a relationship, it would need to stay hidden right?  So either hide it for life / pretend to be straight or emigrate.

It is always very risky to be a homosexual in countries such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. If you are rich and have powerful connections, then you may be able to escape. Else, they will slap a death sentence over you and you'll be beheaded in no time.

lol yeah I'm sure it's not the most popular thing in a muslim country.  But risk or not, it's not really a choice.  You can't just choose to be gay or straight.  I wonder what the deal is with gay people in countries that have no tolerance for it.  I would assume that it just remains hidden in public and from friends and family.

Yeah that's a dilemma that gay people are having when they live in a muslim country. There are even laws against homisexuals in countries like malaysia and these are laws that are strictly enforced. Sad to say, they really don't have much of a choice if they live in these countries, but to pretend about their sexuality.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: tikalbong on July 26, 2017, 05:01:43 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

I mean no offense to all the gays around the world. I am not in favor of gay marriage and so is true with the adoption of a child by gay couples.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: siti25 on July 26, 2017, 07:18:42 AM
If homosexuals are legalized, what I fear is the future of more and more people who want to be gay and lesbian. Why am I afraid? Because gays and lesbians can not bear children. Think about it, nobody gives birth - no children - gays and lesbians can not adopt children. Gay and Lesbians aging, then die, humans were gone lol.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: rahmat92 on July 26, 2017, 07:28:29 AM
In my country same-sex marriage is not allowed, let alone reach children
The controversy must have been about it going back to the rules of his government
They make or not about Gay marriage and adopting children


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: ridery99 on July 26, 2017, 07:29:42 AM
If homosexuals are legalized, what I fear is the future of more and more people who want to be gay and lesbian. Why am I afraid? Because gays and lesbians can not bear children. Think about it, nobody gives birth - no children - gays and lesbians can not adopt children. Gay and Lesbians aging, then die, humans were gone lol.

But that's part of the NWO depopulation plan. That's why sodomy is being encouraged.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: babsalt1975 on July 26, 2017, 07:32:48 AM
If homosexuals are legalized, what I fear is the future of more and more people who want to be gay and lesbian. Why am I afraid? Because gays and lesbians can not bear children. Think about it, nobody gives birth - no children - gays and lesbians can not adopt children. Gay and Lesbians aging, then die, humans were gone lol.

In my country if you want to adopt a child, you should prove that you are married - and it should a man and a woman. Therefore if you are gay or lesbian and you want to adopt a child, the government will not allow you.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Symphony_fr on July 26, 2017, 07:33:56 AM
I am against this, there must be a father and a mother in the family. Homosexuality is the destruction of society and it must be stopped. In ancient times, people did this because they were raised by a monstrous herd instinct, but now people have started to develop and do not need to repeat the mistakes of their ancestors.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Xester on July 26, 2017, 10:30:53 AM
If homosexuals are legalized, what I fear is the future of more and more people who want to be gay and lesbian. Why am I afraid? Because gays and lesbians can not bear children. Think about it, nobody gives birth - no children - gays and lesbians can not adopt children. Gay and Lesbians aging, then die, humans were gone lol.

In my country if you want to adopt a child, you should prove that you are married - and it should a man and a woman. Therefore if you are gay or lesbian and you want to adopt a child, the government will not allow you.

Really?  Here in our country the only requirement is a paper that will authorized you to adopt the child coming from a poster house.  The staff from poster house will conduct a survey to the person or couple or anyone who would like to adopt a child.  They will based their investigation on the income, place, the life of the person who will adopt, the salary I think.  These are done so that there is assurance that the child will have a good future and in good hands.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: oberotek on July 26, 2017, 12:53:11 PM
http://www.hawryluklegal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Same-Sex-Adoption.jpg


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Kulang on July 26, 2017, 03:25:22 PM
I have nothing against gay marriage and gay couple adopting. I have gay friends and they are very successful, happy, and contented with their lives. Here in our country, gay marriage is not yet accepted but I hope that someday, there will be a time where it will be accepted. And them adopting a child is not an issue as long as they are really eager to adopt and raise a child and they really can provide the needs of the child.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Boys27 on July 26, 2017, 04:28:07 PM
I think same sex marriage is not good, Because god creates man and woman, man is not created by god to be able to change the genitals naturally like worms, so how can having children if having the same sex? ???


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: karisiak123 on August 08, 2017, 09:42:07 PM
When married to the same sex must be polapikirnya already insane indeed do not want what have the offspring like normal people ,, very in pity if there is same sex marriage.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: eagleman on August 08, 2017, 11:33:18 PM
This is why we are experiencing disasters, because things that people should not adopt are being adopted and done. Just like Sodom and Gomorrah, gay marriage, same sex marriage, this isn't right.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: ApocalypseNow on August 09, 2017, 02:36:38 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?


Just imagine how many child abuse or sexual abuse will be reported when those gay couples adopted a baby boy. I'm seeing a future where gay couples repeatedly rape their sons when nobody is around.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: kodes88 on August 09, 2017, 04:52:37 AM
 for gays and lesbians, we who fight homosexuals can not deny that the existence of gays and lesbians can not be prevented, because when we talk about this sort of thing, we always associate it with human rights, even though it is a deviant thing. But I think if you want to live with your gay / lesbian couple, stay, but do not need to marry because it is against fate, and do not also adopt a child


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on August 09, 2017, 04:57:34 AM
When married to the same sex must be polapikirnya already insane indeed do not want what have the offspring like normal people ,, very in pity if there is same sex marriage.

They can have offspring from surrogacy. But even then, how can the children call them as parents? Even these children will have only one father and the biological mother will be a surrogate or an egg donor woman.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Nakakapagpabagabag on August 09, 2017, 05:28:21 AM
They have a different cause of why homosexual is prohibited and adoption, For other people says they favor to that gay marriage because they want only happy in their life but that so selfish. In other people part is same sex marriage is sin in our god.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Senkuli on August 09, 2017, 06:04:21 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?
I disagree about same-sex marriage, but because everyone has a thing to decide on his life choices then it's all up to what they choose.
About adoption of children, of course there are rules that govern the process and supervision in the adoption of children by the government.
It is likely that children adopted by gay families will have a different life than children raised by normal families, surely the child will have a tendency to behave like a gay parent.



Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: bcnaranjo on August 09, 2017, 06:38:49 AM
Gay marriage and adopting this social situation is a matter of respect and human rights. Religion dictates what is presumed to be religiously acceptable based on the perception of others. But we have to be true to ourselves and respect the rights of others and their preference in how they will journey life and who will make them happy. If Gay Marriage doesn't harm the society, then why do we have to judge them? What is important is that they are good citizens.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: SonOfNorth on August 09, 2017, 06:54:20 AM
If homosexuals are legalized, what I fear is the future of more and more people who want to be gay and lesbian. Why am I afraid? Because gays and lesbians can not bear children. Think about it, nobody gives birth - no children - gays and lesbians can not adopt children. Gay and Lesbians aging, then die, humans were gone lol.

You do understand that sexuality is not a choice, right?

You also don't need to worry about the human race going extinct, people are multiplying with exponential growth, so if anything we'd need to slow it down. Granted those are uneducated, uncivilized people from religion-infected countries, but still.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: SushiMonster on August 09, 2017, 09:07:41 AM
As long gay parents can provide a good life on the child and responsible enough to care one, there's nothing wrong with it.
People should just get over the fact that some people choose to love the same gender.
As long that their decisions doesn't affect your life, then there's nothing wrong with it.
People have their own personal beliefs and just learn to respect one another. Just because you don't believe in gay marriage, you need shove it to other people's mind that it's wrong.
Homosexuality is not a disease, being homophobic is one. Homophobic people needs to go to see a doctor or something.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on August 09, 2017, 10:45:12 AM
If Gay Marriage doesn't harm the society, then why do we have to judge them? What is important is that they are good citizens.

How can you be so sure that gay marriage doesn't harm the society? IMO, recognition of homosexual marriage can have a negative effect on the family values, and it will reduce the sanctity of marriage overall.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Xester on August 09, 2017, 10:51:57 AM
As long gay parents can provide a good life on the child and responsible enough to care one, there's nothing wrong with it.
People should just get over the fact that some people choose to love the same gender.
As long that their decisions doesn't affect your life, then there's nothing wrong with it.
People have their own personal beliefs and just learn to respect one another. Just because you don't believe in gay marriage, you need shove it to other people's mind that it's wrong.
Homosexuality is not a disease, being homophobic is one. Homophobic people needs to go to see a doctor or something.

Nowadays, many people are turn into gay. I don't see any problem with that because they don't commits any mistakes to other people's lives. Similarly, if two person loves each other they should be marry. And if a two gays want to have a baby, they should adopt a child from some management. If they can provide better future and if they can provide the things that the baby needed they can adopt a baby.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Chikitita2004 on August 09, 2017, 11:05:04 AM
What made the western countries agree to it is probobly because they are mor liberals. Most of the countries that do not yet accept it and legalize it are the religious countries. Christians and Muslims alike do not tolerate it but the Jewish though they don't have same sex marriages yet but they don't condemn 2 same sex living together. They also allow child adoption to same sex couples. Personally i don't see adoption as something normal. I am thinking of the child's social well being. I don't think it is healthy for the child to be bullied for having same sex parents. 


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: The_prodigy on August 09, 2017, 01:19:04 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

I think that today, there is no problem with homosexuality. The problem lies on the belief of people rooted for such a long time that marriage is for one man and one woman only. It is still frowned upon to have gay marriages work as people still believe that within that person they are still male and femae no matter what they say. However for adoption I believe that gender should not be an issue for that as gender does not kean better parents.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Prem.Soorajpaul on August 09, 2017, 01:53:56 PM
And if a two gays want to have a baby, they should adopt a child from some management.

Not this one. I am not in favor of gay adoption. The gay parents are much more likely to abuse their children, when compared to the heterosexual parents. Studies indicate that they are almost 50 times more likely to abuse children.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: criptix on August 09, 2017, 01:58:11 PM
And if a two gays want to have a baby, they should adopt a child from some management.

Not this one. I am not in favor of gay adoption. The gay parents are much more likely to abuse their children, when compared to the heterosexual parents. Studies indicate that they are almost 50 times more likely to abuse children.

Please link the studies.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Footmanred on August 11, 2017, 03:44:43 AM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?
I think that it all is stereotypes. It is sincerely sorry me these people. Although, they are probably happy to be just the same. However there it was, wrong to forbid to such people to be together. It is exceptional my opinion.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: Sithara007 on August 11, 2017, 03:59:42 AM
And if a two gays want to have a baby, they should adopt a child from some management.

Not this one. I am not in favor of gay adoption. The gay parents are much more likely to abuse their children, when compared to the heterosexual parents. Studies indicate that they are almost 50 times more likely to abuse children.

Please link the studies.

Not sure about the claim of 50 times, but I have heard that more than one-third of all the child sexual abuse is homosexual in nature. Considering that gays are only around 1% of the population, that would mean them having a 33 times higher chance of committing child sexual abuse.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: SonOfNorth on August 11, 2017, 07:25:51 AM
Not sure about the claim of 50 times, but I have heard that more than one-third of all the child sexual abuse is homosexual in nature. Considering that gays are only around 1% of the population, that would mean them having a 33 times higher chance of committing child sexual abuse.

So essentially you have nothing but something someone has maybe said somewhere at some point to back up your claim. Doesn't seem like something that we should really believe then.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: wowanstrong on August 11, 2017, 08:05:14 AM
Gays are mentally unhealthy and are spreaders of different infections. The child will be simply dangerous to be in such an incorrect family and I want that children do not suffer from such entertainments of unhealthy people.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: gabmen on August 12, 2017, 05:18:49 AM
Gays are mentally unhealthy and are spreaders of different infections. The child will be simply dangerous to be in such an incorrect family and I want that children do not suffer from such entertainments of unhealthy people.

I don't that's entirely accurate. A lot of gay people are actually a benefit to society with what they do and contribute. Its our outlook towards them that alienates these people when they also should have equal rights as long as its within the law and they're not stepping on others.


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: PepperaOnIt on August 12, 2017, 07:34:52 AM
Its ok to adopt and give respect to the gay but letting them to marry the same guy is not right in the eyes of the society, its like giving us sick taste when seeing two gays married


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: ridery99 on August 12, 2017, 07:43:45 AM
Gay couple accused of sexually abusing adopted Russian boy for years


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An American pedophile has been convicted to 40 years in prison for years of sexual abuse of adopted Russian boy. His boyfriend from New Zealand who allegedly assisted in meticulously recording acts of sexual offence is going on trial at home.
Two members of the pedophile porn exchange ring Boy Lovers network, Mark J. Newton, 42 and his long-term partner Peter Truong, 36, were busted in 2011 on suspicion that they were sexually molesting their son, born to Russian mother in 2005.

A US judge in Indianapolis has imposed maximum sentence on American-born Mark J. Newton, 42, for sexual exploit of a minor and conspiracy to possess child pornography. Newton is also obliged to pay $400,000 in compensation to the boy’s account.

Newton’s boyfriend Peter Truong, 36, awaits court in New Zealand.

US District Judge Sarah Evans Barker explained that Mark Newton was tried at district court level to save a jury from seeing the images produced by the defendants.

“‘What can be said? What can be done to erase some of the horror of this?’’ Judge Barker said while handing down her sentence, sharing a belief that the pair deserved a stricter punishment.

‘‘Personally ... I think this is probably one of the worst [pedophile] rings ... if not the worst ring I’ve ever heard of,’’ investigator Brian Bone of the US Postal Inspection Service told reporters outside the US Federal Courtroom.

“Russian orphans always attracted foreign perverts because of accessibility. The foreigners were simply coming and taking children for money,” Russian Ombudsman for Children’s Rights Pavel Astakhov told RT.

Russia has recently adopted two laws on adoption of Russian children by foreign families. In December 2012, Russia adopted the ‘Dima Yakovlev Law’ banning American citizens from adopting Russian children. In June 2013, The State Duma passed an amendment that bans the adoption of Russian children by same-sex couples from abroad.

“In forbidding foreign adoptions we put a barrier against scoundrels,” Astakhov said, pointing out that he knows a number of similar cases when foreigners adopted children with solely sexual intent.

Astakhov told RT that the rehabilitation process for the boy, currently adopted by another American family, will take a long time. He noted that according to Russian law an adopted child remains a Russian citizen until lawful age and promised to closely follow boy’s life in the new family.

To avoid future harm to the child, the investigators named the boy ‘Adam’ in all official documents.

Astakhov stressed that he fully trusts the American specialists responsible for Adam’s rehabilitation.

“International cooperation in the sphere of struggle against pedophiles gives Russia an opportunity to identify, expose and punish the criminals, protect children,” he said.

The story of ‘Adam’
Reportedly, starting from 2002, the gay couple of Newton and Truong attempted to find a surrogate mother to give birth to their child. Having failed to find a surrogate mother in the US, where both were working at the time as computer experts, the pair finally found a woman in Russia who gave birth to their child for a fee of $8,000. Mark Newton is believed to be the biological father of the boy dubbed ‘Adam’.

Adam was handed over to Newton and Truong a mere five days after his birth in 2005.

Newton and Truong gave media interviews as a gay couple with an adopted child, stating that their son was born to a Russian surrogate mother they found on the internet.

“Being a father was an honor and a privilege that amounted to the best six years of my life,” Newton told the court minutes before his sentence was announced.

At the age of 22 months, Adam was sexually abused by his ‘adoptive parents’ for the first time. After that he was abused on a daily basis. The ‘parents’ took photos and video recorded practically everything they did to him.

Later on they made Adam available for sex with other members of the pedophile ring in Australia, France, Germany and the US, for which Newton and Truong had to travel extensively. The investigators have found proof of at least eight men in these countries having contact with Adam when he was between the ages of two and six.


Two of these pedophiles have been charged already: they are American residents John R. Powell, 41, a Florida-based lawyer, and Jason Bettuo, a 36-year-old Michigan tennis coach.

Adam was made to believe that the life he lived was normal. He was also trained to give ‘correct’ answers if questioned about his life by an outsider, so when investigators first talked to him they got no information about his parents’ double life.

As the investigation continued, it emerged that Newton and Truong had contacts with some children in Australia who had been questioned. But so far the investigators got no additional information from them.

https://www.rt.com/news/pedophile-syndicate-russian-boy-481/ (https://www.rt.com/news/pedophile-syndicate-russian-boy-481/)


Title: Re: Gay Marriage and Adoption
Post by: poisonivy77 on August 12, 2017, 12:31:29 PM
In many countries of the world homosexuality is still illegal and is sometimes even punished with death. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg/1035px-World_laws_pertaining_to_homosexual_relationships_and_expression.svg.png)

In most Western countries, same sex marriage is now permitted. Adoption has also been allowed in some countries. There are no studies that show that children grow up badly in homosexual relationships.

Why do you think that so many Western countries have problems with same rights for homosexual ppl?
And what do you think about it personally?

i don't take its appropriate ,Gay marriage is not a matter of if, but when.  It will happen, nationwide, and so the real key is ensuring it happens sooner rather than later.
All of the arguments used by those opposed to gay marriage will look as silly, bigoted, prejudiced, and outdated as the arguments used by those who opposed desegregation, interracial marriage, suffrage, civil rights and so on years ago.