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The U.S. and its allies have "no smoking gun" proving Syrian forces uses chemical weapons.

No stores of Sarin at Shayrat found by experts.

How is it not? The whole world heard Putin talked about "little Green men" who have bought their weapons and uniforms in gun shops and came to seize the Crimea. Maybe in the same stores and bought Assad Zaman and Sarin? Everyone knows that Putin supports this dictator.

https://youtu.be/aOlGqCOlNhc?t=2m44s (In Russian)

To create conditions for conducting the Referendum.
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The cheap attempt to flood this topic is evident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJc9UtagCh8

 Shayrat airbase

Syrian Army personnel inspected the Shayrat airbase in Homs which was struck by US missile earlier on Friday.

Why does russia deny an independent inspection if sarin was used?

What might be the reason...?

Cui bono?

Because the Russian investigation is not necessary. They already know everything. Moreover, they even know where Assad's chemical weapons were taken. Russia tries srcit his involvement in this case.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2963349/Do-terrorist-cells-chemical-weapons-Expert-warns-ISIS-stash-sarin-mustard-gas-poses-threat-European-security.html

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/507421/isis-daesh-islamic-chemical-attack-mustard-sarin-london-tokyo-brussels-tube-underground

About what inspection are You talking?

And this is the site that is sponsored directly from the Kremlin or via Russia today?

Im talking about Khan Shaykhun. Why are russia (and china) blocking all UN resolutions regarding the chemical attack in the UNSC?

Are You serious to send "independent" experts under Al Qaida/ISIS controlled zone??
The deaths were a result of gas released when a government airstrike hit a chemical weapons factory.

who the hell knows what happened? was anyone here there to see it with their own eyes? i've no idea what to believe so i'm not gonna listen to what anyone says.

Right.
And what is the reason to bomb this airfeld?

Vika how can you know it was a rebel used chemlab?

We know from 2013 to 2015 as fact that assads military used chemical agents in form of toxic gas against rebels and civilians. One of the reason that he accepted the UN resolution 2118 in 2013 to abolish all of syrias chemical weapons.

So how can you be sure that assad didnt do it?

Show me the picture of "chemical bomb".
There are no such proofs.

Unfortunately you still have to trust someone. You can't visit all countries in the world to check the veracity of the information in the news. Personally, I try to check the same news in different sources of information.

Vika. I was the one asking for evidence... russia and china are blocking the un resolution to inspect the case...
If you dont have anything to do with it why would you try to block an investigation?

There is no answer. First the answer may not be logical, but I still will not believe. Russian always say cliches of Putin's propaganda. While on the TV will not tell you the version of the answer will be.

Explain about what "resolution" are You talking??
The ISIS activist have shipped to Turkey the materials from the place, and chemlab have detect the presence of Sarin.

But the origin of this Sarin is the ISIS deposit of chemical arms destroyed by government aircraft.
I have no idea, who collected this material.

This zone is under Al Qaida branch control.
How do You will inspect the zone???

I get your point now.
Indeed that might be a problem which can only solved by boots on the ground.

Im not sure how strong IS is there.

But i still dont get why russia and china are blocking resolutions to force syria to tell which aircraft and pilot were flying under which operation and command...

I dont see any military reason to not cooperate in this case. Just tell the UN what happened and let them interview/question pilots etc.

And I do not understand why someone demands evidence. The UN can not do anything. You just need to assemble a coalition and to supply Assad an ultimatum, either he leaves the country to Russia or war.

I have no idea about what "resolution" you are talking.
The US side declared about "proofs" but no one have seen them.

This zone is under radars of NATO, and there are no UFO.

The only part there who have Sarin is Al Qaeda/ISIS and branches of them.

To call someone as goatfucker there need to have the evidence or not?

This is a "proof". The Sarin with Smell.

There are lots of problems with this gas attack.

1) The village was not far out in the styx, it was a place reachable by journalists. Assad wouldn't be likely to use gas in the current climate, but if he did it would not be where it would be found out.

2) First reports said witnesses saw sukhoi jets drop the gas. In fact a single source pumped that info heavily into hundreds of news sites which used the exact same quotes. Later reports contradicted this, saying witnesses saw missiles of some sort or something similar.

etc

In every government there are retarded imbeciles who penetrate the various 'secretive' agencies. These festering scum run around living out dark fantasies pretending that they are covertly helping this or that just cause, but they only cause harm.

This is "Hamid Khutainy, a civil defence volunteer in Khan Sheikhun" words of smelling Sarin.

Someone like this.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/nintchdbpict000313751479.jpg?strip=all&w=960&quality=100


http://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20170405&t=2&i=1179446812&w=&fh=545px&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXMPED340UB

People run around, and die not.

That hole is claimed as "Air Bomb With Sarin"

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/dc087ed1979c668b0545e230cd83c38b8d9e525e/0_262_4032_2419/master/4032.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=efc36143fb4686c83407c32257c3edb6

Someone call it as "The only reminder of what happened is a small, blackened, crater near the northern part of town, where a rocket laced with a nerve agent fell, killing more than 70 people in one of the worst mass casualty chemical attacks in the six-year war in Syria."

But where are other bomb holes?

The "video proof" show 3 different explosions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYOMEDK_uVs

https://syrianarchive.org/media/images/geolocation_1_Khan.width-800.png

And this picture show the only one "hole".
Look at this Superhero in "Anti Sarin" mask.

Forget the part about chemical weapons, there are smoking guns err bombs that Assad used on his own people, yeah?

This location is under Al Qaida branch control.
You have lessons how to fight ISIS?

Assad satisfying it said the people?

This is where I have been at the entire thread..the last time I checked, dropping bombs was enough. Sarin is just icing on the asshole cake. I will concur it's odd he would do this, but, somebody did this, and somebody with a plane, and access to copious amounts of sarin. That we cannot dispute; and those are all features of state actors. At the very least, not publically denouncing responsibility and denouncing this is bad optics.

what confuses me is the fact that there is zero military value in such an attack  ???

in fact Assad was winning; why should he do such a thing?

Really mysterious; the clear winners here are:

1. warmongers who want this thing to escalate to into a 3rd world war
2. pro-refugee industry

Look at all the poor Syrians, let them come to Europe or else they will be gassed....

It is terrible but I believe primary duty of Western politicians would be to make sure we are not affected, and the best way of doing this is stay out. Keep them out.  :'(

The Americans claim that they have some secret evidence that chemical weapons were used by Assad, moreover they have some dirt on the Russians. I think that after meeting us Secretary of state in Russia, we learn about these proofs.

The terrorists must have moved the chemicals before the inspection from America ever happened. There are military tactics that are done secretly and they have intelligence and insider including spies to tell them about any possible attack that will be coming in. Thus if I am right the chemical weapons might be moved to somewhere safe or if I am wrong the US have acted on its own accord without clear proof.

You are right. The city of Khan Shaykhun, and much of the Maarrat al-Nu'man District which encompasses it is under the control of the Tahrir al-Sham alliance. The main component of this "alliance" is the Jabhat al Nusra (Syrian branch of Al Qaeda).

How do you know he did not denounce it? Obviously he did denounce it. Why were you not informed?

So what exactly were the reasons for the numerous known chemical attacks of the assad regime from 2013-2015? Maybe it is just what it is: using terror as a strategy.

If it is fee to end the reign of the bloody regime of Assad I do not mind. Let under any pretext, it will be removed. In fact, if Syria was peace and harmony it would be a rich country. Just Assad held with the support of Russian, and they are not interested in the prosperity of Syria.

Very even right think, but I still hold the view that chemical weapons were available in Assad, and he used it. But the army also reported that they found containers from these Russian-made weapons. So there are a lot of questions and it is exhausted.

American Senator from Arizona John McCain has accused Russia of cooperation with the Syrian government in the attack with chemical weapons, killing more than 80 people, including more than ten children.
The Republican Senator said at a press conference in Belgrade that he believes that "the Russians knew about the chemical weapons, because they act with the same base."
"I hope that such behaviour on the part of Syria, what is clearly visible cooperation between Russia and Syria will never happen again," he said.
McCain also warned Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from such actions if he did not renounce the use of prohibited weapons.
"The United States must first remind Russia that this kind of war crime is unacceptable in the modern world", - he stressed.

war crime  :D..Your getting done for a war crime WHO ME :P  Well yes you didn't kill him nicely  :D ..WAR CRIME ::)..

I chuckle when they say nice bombs  :D :D..Well that bomb only blows you up to bits ::) ::) :D

If your at war you kill by any means ;)..IT'S WAR..To kill destroy the enemy WAR..

So bollocks to chemical weapons no different to good bombs :D..GOOD BOMBS :D< CRAZY.


I think they all have a drink at the weekend  and then go back to bullshitting us PUBLIC   I.E average JOE..

Putin has a dance with Obama wife in the disco at the weekend ..Then goes back and pretends to all us humans we are on the brink of killing each other..

DO IT   DO IT   DO IT  ..WE ARE NOT SCARED ..It's YOU LEADERS   WHO LOOSE YOUR BILLIONS :D :D :D :D..

If i had what trump had i would be very afraid if war broke out it's all gone..
And so will he and his family ..Like ours..

To blame the Russian. Always where Russian was there, the war begins. They only cry everywhere that the world, and in fact, their strategy for the worse in the world the less visible dirt from them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaVPG63Yi3M

"White Helmets" fake proofs studio at work.