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Hey all,

I thought I would start a new thread because the last one got out of hand. The private group has decided to reveal themselves to reassure the community that this is not a scam (please see below)

let me be clear this is the process:

1. you pay me BTC for these units, send me TXID  and postal address (minimum order is 1 with no quantity requirement before sale can commence)

(EDIT: you can also pay blazed as escrow if you like)

2. I pay manufacturer directly

3. Miners get shipped our USA address

4. you pay shipping cost, miner will be sent out within 48 hours of our group receiving the miner providing shipping is paid


Deadline Friday


https://i.imgur.com/tIFAIBv.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/EqBQ3Zt.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/uh6c2YR.jpg

Hi,

Put me down 4 for unit, please.

Thanks.

Hi all,

We wanted to clear a few things up here.

Buckrogers myself and another 3rd party who wishes to remain anonymous for now, are indeed going to China to sign a contract with iBelink for up to 200 of the 10.8 GH/s miners which have been discussed here and basically everywhere since the news came out.

We have spent weeks performing our due diligence in vetting the manufacturer with multiple sources, and have secured our Visas and invitations from iBelink (manufacturing co) with personalized invitations which are REQUIRED to visit China. As well as having legal counsel review the contract and provide our own sale contract to our buyers

We are doing this for a few reasons.

First and foremost we want to make sure ourselves and our investors are not being scammed from a “vapor” type entity and blindly send 1 million dollars to a random person we have never met.

We will be testing the prototype miner, which was most likely used in the Bitbaza video that went sort of viral.

We will look to be taking photos and video and document our testing to multiple pools during our visit which has already been negotiated in our personalized contract with the manufacturer.

So to make things very clear, we want to state that kilo17 along with his “group” did indeed back out of our initial offer to secure them a place in this order which they themselves have mentioned, this is not new news.

We also want to make very clear we already have well over 100 units and funds in our accounts ready to be deposited to iBelink upon signing the contract in person, which is the MINIMUM amount required for this preorder.

This is not a fund raising issue, we have a large amount the manufacturer secured for us, and we are offering bittawm to join us with his group buy and have others partake as well.

We are on our way there, this is happening, we are making a deal for more than 120 miners already.

I am sorry bittawm has been treated so poorly by other members of this community, and we felt it unfair to him , which is why we decided to step forward so there is no question who you are dealing with.

Buckrogers and I have impeccable trust ratings and have been doing business on these forums for many years. We don't screw people over, and would never stoop to the levels of attacks we have seen against an innocent Group Buy organizer as we have seen in the last 24 hours.

It is a disgrace to the community to stand by and see this take place, and it should not be tolerated.


If you wish to join  bittawm’s group buy, rest assured he is not getting FREE  miners lol, the math that was thrown around was  a sad attempt at making a conspiracy theory out of thin air to benefit a different group and their agenda. Yes we are looking to make a profit on this deal that is not a lie, we have worked very hard in the last few weeks to take every precaution and research to do so, including flying to China to meet the manufacturer in person.

The vanilla contract that everyone seems to have is just that, a contract that says $5000 a miner for 100 miners min qty which is equal to a half a million dollars. We have met and EXCEEDED that requirement already.

We wish any other groups who are doing deals and have business arrangements the best of luck. We are not in competition with anyone and don't spread filth in that way.

We are on our way and will send pics and videos from China.

bittawm, we appreciate you sticking to your word and not mentioning us, as i'm sure that was a very difficult thing to do with all of the personal attacks that came your way.  We appreciate you and the good you do for the community, and hope to continue working on large safe deals in the future with reputable companies and proper vetting as we are doing now.

We are not looking to entertain any questions to why we wanted to remain anonymous during this process, but it is clear enough to see how vicious some people get and will do anything to try to sabotage a deal in progress.

We simply don't have the time at this point to answer any personalized questions via DM or otherwise which is why we asked bittawm to join in, please direct any inquiries about placing an order with him.

We would be sending video from china anyway, but we felt things needed to be cleared up here as this is out of control with the accusations.

Tl;dr
We are  going to China
We have more than enough funds in hand to exceed the minimum  required quota, by far
We will send video and pics from China
We are going there with intentions to vett and make deal in person with the manufacturer.


Here are our current trust rating and a few references from the most reputable members on this forum. Feel free to ask any of them about their dealings with us.

https://i.imgur.com/23azWrT.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/48cILqV.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/whS0soc.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/ezoSkSb.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/XrQBDd9.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/Cy8KOGz.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/yxGtdzS.jpg?1


Thank you.

You should not advertise it as a 10800MH/s miner when it's actually 384MH/s iBlink miner.

thats a different miner mate

Appreciate the clarification.

Can you please post when payments have to be made by if interest is expressed now?

any time from now until friday Beijing time  (earlier the better to secure your order)

Is it just BTC only? Or is bank wire allowed?

btc or dash

Pull my name from the OP - please

when these miners will be shipped actually?

They say 3 months..but I have never seen an asic maker get anything out..that is not at least 1 month late..since I've been in this since 2013...just saying

Also, with that kinda time line I expect Baikal and maybe Pinidea to have 'equiv' units out ..before these even ship ...just saying...timeline is too long imho

even if everything is kosher and on the up and up on this and other group buy

So sitting on hands...good luck to you all thou..just saying...too much scar tissue (bfl,knc,alpha tech,black arrow, gaw, and lately bitmain games.. etc)

I think this is why there are delays:

http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=1000000.00&p=80000.00&pc=0.50&pf=1&d=95913.30221755&r=1.80147602&er=0.06100709&btcer=1557.10000000&hc=1000000.00

Makes me wonder why they don't just build and mine themselves.

Some reputable review of this "different" miner?

This whole thing has turned weird and comical. At this point I am going to just wait and see what happens. See if anyone ever gets a miner in hand and reviews it. See if the ROI is still good. This whole thing has just played out a little too strange for my tastes. Good luck with it though. I hope it works out for you.

Can we verify the money that Buck and MindTrip have that you have seen with your own eyes Bittawn.  I think a Signed Message from the wallet with $600,000 in BTC would be a great start in showing credibility to the Group Buy.

There is no harm in providing a signed message from that wallet and if it is not done then it will look even more like a scam.  Photo's will not do, it must be a signed message

+1

This whole thing has turned weird and comical. At this point I am going to just wait and see what happens.

I want 2 units

1 unit for me

I agree with this having seen a taste of new hardware shipment delays.  Even IF they do ship something it likely will not be on time.  And if you are even more unlucky the hardware will have some issues that will need to be addressed either in software, hardware, or both. 

If you were monitoring the unit that was online it isn't anymore.  If anyone knows if it has been turned back on somewhere else please post the URL.  When I checked this earlier this morning it was still down.  And it has not been hashing anywhere near the advertised rate.

You verified a wallet with 13 BTC in it, that is a LONG LONG way from $600,000

And then spammed the Trust ratings for them with the NON DEFAULT TRUST

I don't think any body would like to prove to the world that they have a wallet with that amount, if they can avoid it.

MinerJones, what is your involvement in this group buy?

I have spoken with Buck and mindtrip about the situation. I had them verify some funds via signed wallets and have agreed to escrow if anyone is interested.

-I have verified at a minimum they hold $275k worth of Dash and BTC
-They have the funds to meet the minimum order of 100 easy with the other buyer
-I can escrow the remaining orders: pre-orders send coins to me and once they provide proof of purchase I release the funds etc..
-I obviously can not guarantee the manufacturer will meet any deadlines and will not screw the buyers - everyone knows how these go by now.

Proof this is me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg10822025#msg10822025 (1BLazedp2eGDrDM3NMbxkn7n4PCCk6WYVX)

Signing with staked addy from above thread



Blazed 5/3/2017 I am offering to escrow iBelink group buy Escrow Address: 1HbFAsENbUHQRYJxMYepoWPiCTdYKv6osd

G9WNyss6ThzTb32kfffr3J8ZYJLWHKfVgOZqcBVLgkpbiOpNK0Hm26/W4WRLWzi51QuUqUDYbeFwy5a8nOcKFC0=

thank you blazed

I have removed our Group Buy after discussing it with philipma1957 as well as others.  We believe the risk of the Group Buy outweighs the potential payout.  Having said that we (our Group, not philipma1957) believe the way in which this Group Buy has been done is not ideal.  

The secrecy, misrepresentation of facts and lack of disclosure in this Group Buy should create doubts in any reasonable person shelling out $6700.  

I think that having Blazed do the Escrow is a great idea.

Good luck and I hope everyone gets the gear they want.

Hey guys long time lurker here, is it too late for me to reserve 1?

of course not

this ^^ too much secrecy and lack of transparency from the get-go for me! plus that miner dosent even DO 10gh/s and is 90 days+ away, meh, Good Luck to all! :)

Still worth it even if its 7.5gh/s -10.8, im sure they will do their due diligence in china.

The last URL I had for the miner was: http://106.120.52.201:7903/static/

It is not there anymore.  Anyone have an updated URL for the 11g?  

I will be watching with interest, but I am going to beg off and not get involved with the iBelink purchase at this point.  

Too much secrecy, back channel deals, and god knows what else is going on.  I will run off and mine some other stuff and watch to see if the iBelink ships anywhere near on time and if it even hashes close to the advertised rate.  

Last I saw the 11g online it was only hashing 6.8-7.4gh and it didn't seem healthy... That was just before it vanished from the network.  So it doesn't even look like they have this thing sorted out yet.  So this will be fun to watch.  

1 unit for me if i'm not too late..

Time is running out people,

Jump aboard the bittawm buss

What is the current count of units sold?  \

Will this group buy happen, or at risk?

several forum members have already ordered,

yes this order looks like it is going through

Why the three months to shipment?   Bitbaza.com states that an order for the DM11G "will be shipped to your address directly from China through DHL/UPS" and "should take one to two weeks for your order to reach you" 

Of course, I don't like to pay any more than I have to, but if I can have my miners in hand in 1-2 weeks versus the 3 months for a difference of $750, then paying the $7500 to bitbaza.com is far better to ROI if deliveries are as stated.

shipped from china in 3 months.......then 1 or 2 weeks to reach..... thanks

SO keep in mind that if they have production issues they may push it out. 90 days is the target today but based on the hash rate, these things were not maintaining 10.8 and were closer to 7.5. Still a good achievement but not at their advertised rate.

I would buy one or more right now if the price was $12000 to $15000 each.
Does anyone have a theory why they want buyers to have such a lottery win ?
If you were the manufacturer and your costs were returned in 14 days of running each unit, why do you want the hassle of selling and shipping, why not just run them yourself?

You will not get return in 14 days. Your single or 2 units are competing against large miners who may have 100 of these, remember that when factoring in your ROI.

take a look at some pics guys:

https://i.imgur.com/tIFAIBv.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/EqBQ3Zt.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/uh6c2YR.jpg

The P2Pool URL came back online a couple of hours ago. 
http://106.120.52.201:7903/static/

http://106.120.52.201:7903/static/

This is the P2Pool node that we are running here in Beijing in the iBeLink. We will be bringing you more information as we can document everything we have covered on this visit.

https://explorer.dash.org/chain/Dash/q/getreceivedbyaddress/XcE4ZUy5c1FB11G9pCsCmcksUXc4oSxfpf

2494 dash received by that wallet.

I noticed that too..

Mindtrip in the Beijing office, and guess who shows up?

BITBAZA baby! lol:)


Deal is done!

Thanks!

I am guessing is it too late to order?

Bittawm will take orders on our behalf, thanks!

Thanks for that products in world.

Because manufacturing something new costs money, they need pre order money to build the stock.

Deal is done folks the new address on the pool is our address used for the past 4-5 hours during my testing here. All orders now through Bittawm get them before there gone. Great meetings over here and a lot of new things to come from the new "make it happen team"

Any pictures of their manufacturing facility?

No this was at there office not at the manufacturing plant that is in another part of china. Also the chips as with most ASIC's are not made by them they are sent to a chip manufacturer with there spec and made there. The manufacturer then assembles them in there facility onto the PCB's and into the enclosure

So basically you went to an office to see the exact same thing that is posted on YouTube?  No manufacturing plant for the actual miners was visited.

SOUNDS LEGIT :P

Very Interesting.

You flew to China and only have 3 pictures?

NO - there are 4

https://i.imgur.com/EA1i6iu.jpg

I have been asked to take it easy and not be so mean by some friends of mine here on the forum.  Apparently someone from this team is making threats against the other guys and I do not want to provoke Buck, Mindtrip and Bittawn to do something crazy and irrational.   ???

Out of respect for my friends I will tone it down a bit if this post remains here.  

Out of Curiosity, why did you delete the 4th Picture?

So they are your friends then?

Why do they deny even knowing you?  -- Yes they did, they denied having you attack without any reason, why would anyone go to these lengths without an agenda? Answer is they wouldn't.

This is a bit much to TROLL SO HARD, don't you think?  sad men indeed.

This is one reason we can't do nice things, and remained anonymous for a while - SABOTAGE  is strong with this group.

Thanks to all who are involved, we look forward to bringing more "nice things" to come :)

Thanks!

something it smells baddddd

Actually I know a couple of the guys from that group but I am not acquainted with all of them nor am I part of the group.  Did you ask ALL of them if they know me?  

What is REALLY important in your statement is that you DO NOT deny threatening that group.  I really hope they pursue legal action against you.  

Poor DASH miners are gonna get creamed when this hits market, lol :)

That's still not a satisfying answer, they do have the sources for R+D, basically made the alchemists stone, and not enough money to build it by themselves, so they need to sell the secret of turning lead to gold to the masses, and with that process disabling their advantage and profit, as if these will be out difficulty will be on the moon of course. They couldn't find a private investor in bloody China, or build some, and triple their investment and rotate that profit back. Please somebody smarter than me enlighten on the subject.

"How many guys do you KNOW in this "group" lol shady much? that there is such a group that is going aroung trolling people?  You mentioned "ALL" of them? lol you just admitteed there IS a such terror grouip amonst us :) and you  know "SOME" of them. This account is sold or compromised looking at its post history from January to April to now, I would not take ANYTHING they say, and yes "THEY" to heart as it is obvious it is a sock puppet account. "

This forum really needs a pop corn smiley face.

In lieu of that
http://s9.postimg.org/4z9cz3jh7/popcorn.gif

Bunch of internet tough guys threatening people. How absolutely adorable.

Very strange, that miner is offline again... 

http://106.120.52.201:7903/static/

Decided to sit this one out.  Good luck everyone.  Hopefully you make a lot of money.

this shit is getting out of hand, mens threatening to rat, mens making threats, mens doin other mens tax reports... this is a simple group buy for the community..
we all know the risk involved ordering from manufacturers.
if your interested in getting these things, and I don't see any other options at the moment for small buyers.
Simply support bittawm group buy! hes legit!!.. He will make sure you get them when they ship!

Sure when you and your buddy brewins delete all your slanderous, un factual, threatening comments let me know and I'll remove your name. Until that time the community deserves to know who's trying to sabotage who here. The facts are in the open for all to see

Bitch, how you're not the hobbit again?  ::)

It is not entirely new at all plus if it was the competitions price gets nowhere near it, they could charge double and it would look like a bargain still, but they don't. Why not ?

Are you saying they cannot afford to make one unit without somebody paying them $6750 ?
Can they run the one they have for 14 days? If so, then the next unit is paid for, run that one, pay for another, don't sell them, no need to, we are rolling in exponential dash riches.
Seems to me they are give aways almost.

Yea I put myself down for a large order with them. Shortly afterward it folded :(. Glad your deal went through. Is it too late to try again?

http://www.bitcoininsider.org/article/1039/108-ghs-ibelink-dm11g-dash-x11-asic-miner

Miner off line again

Where are those photos and videos available?
China does not speak....

Although i do not doubt the legitimacy of these guys and the miners.

I do want to point out that it is NOT TRUE that personalized invitations are REQUIRED to visit China.

China is one of the easiest countries to get a visa for.  You just apply at the visa office and give them a flight reservation and you got your visa... plain and simple

not only is it that simple to get a visa, but any expat living in China knows that all you need to do to get another visa is to cross into Hong Kong, apply for a new visa and in 24 hours you have a new visa and can go back in to Mainland China... You can do this practically forever.  Alot of people teach, live, work here and they do that all the time, its common practice.

Not sure if they are just misinformed, or ?

Hello I want to prenote 1 unity.
Tnks!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ngYuygIGQ can anyone who speaks russian translate this ?

It's a 7minute video

nothing interesting...
General things about ibelinkDM11G, what to say elsewhere ...

if you wanna do it the legal right way and the travel is for business, you need a business visa. (many just apply for turist visa even if they go for business).