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Unfortunately, it seems that the iotas I have purchased at the beginning of the project are no more valid. It seems that the people that manage this project have produced a new version and have asked to owners of iotas to claim for obtaining new iotas. But the time to do that is terminated. And I have done nothing because I was not aware of this process because I do not participate to this project. I have purchased iotas at the start of the project, hoping to have a good surprise at the end and it is perfectly legitimate. The iota's people has responded that I had to participate to the project !! Those people, narcissic and full of themselves want that we look at them working with admiration. I add that the participation in the project was not in the initial agreement. And anyway I had other things to do ! In brief, I have been stolen and I am not alone in this case. This bullshit shows clearly that this project will not go far. You cannot build upon so dishonest fundations.

I failed to claim them just because I was not aware that I had to do so. Having limited the claim period of time was the way to make the theft.

So you condone this action?

Give the guys his iotas he paid for ffs.

If at the time of purchase there was nothing stated about claiming then he should have them.

How many BTC worth are we talking?

Slow down. After the ICO, did you go to http://collect.iotatoken.com/ and send a small amount of Bitcoin to a specific address?
As mentioned in the very first post of the crowdsale here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262688.0

If no, then you're out of luck. If yes, then you should see your IOTA address from back then in this list here: https://forum.iota.org/t/genesis-distribution/88
In this case you can still claim your iotas (manually by asking the devs).

Yes I have sent a small amount of Bitcoin to a specific address.

Someone in the main iota thread has explained me that it is was too late to claim the new iotas.

There was
written in the Terms of Sale. Did you pass that stage? Did you claim within the 90 days which ended by the 1st of April 2016?

No I did not.

So you never had "old" iotas and never had an IOTA address?

I'm asking because some people confuse "claim" and "re-claim".

Claim -> was collect.iotatoken.com -> send a small amount of BTC -> your address is in the genesis
If you did that in time, then you did successfully claim.

Re-claim -> The addresses changed at some point and you had to claim the iotas again to a new address. You can still get your iotas if you didn't do this.

I'm afraid you can't receive the purchased iotas now. They were given to IOTA Foundation, so they will still be used for the good of IOTA community.

I think that the iota people wanted to punish those that have not participated or even looked at their threads. A pure theft.

I understand your feelings, but nothing can be done.

No, I have old iotas and I have a iota adresse I can see in the list. I have made the claim but not the re-claim.

@Come-from-Beyond

Then he can still PM you his address (or seed?)

I think he refers to that case where you were caught lying that you didn't know about IOTA but then your old posts in IOTA thread were spotted.

Yes. Let's make sure he indeed didn't claim in time.

@patrickus:
Enter the seed you have into http://188.138.57.93/oldaddressgenerator.html and post here the address you get. Use lower-case letters.

Wow you english comprehension just gets worse and worse. He outlined clearly what he was referring to in his post. Which is what i replied to.

How many more times can I try to penetrate your skull with the same reply to this until you understand.

I said I was not aware of the IOTA Crowd sale before it has finished.
Because when asking about it before hand was told not to ask about it.

Is that clearer for you now.

That is not the same as not knowing the thread existed.

For someone who proclaims to be amongst the smartest on this board. You need to concentrate a little more.

Oh wait you do of course understand because I have explained it to you before many times.

How are all those hero and legendary sock puppet accounts you bought doing? are they enjoying their iota 30x returns yet + now all those that didnt jump through the new hoops?

I located the thread now which you were advertising to buy up as many as possible prior to the iota toke sale. Interesting isn't it.
Combined with the thread where you say it does not matter if people here find out about your antics of manipulating the iota crowdsale with sock puppet accounts because you intend to market it to people outside of bct that will be unaware of this gives people a clear indication of how things are on the inside of this project.

Anyway I have no time for iota revelations today.

Just give this poor guy his coins you are worth a fortune you can afford it.

Ok, you have that many sins that it's not surprising that I guessed it wrong.

PS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM36ED544iE&feature=youtu.be still gives me a good laugh even though I watch it because of nostalgia.

Are you talking about CFB who is known to hate babysitting or some other CFB?

I'm sure OP will not be the only person that this will happen to. I bet there's quite a few people who will receive this same shock when they return to see what's happened to the iota they bought.

Always keep an eye on your portfolio. I think ALL iota purchasers should get the iota they paid for, no questions. Where else can you buy something, come back later to pick it up, and then find out that your purchase has somehow expired?? Bet the money they got from you hasn't expired though!

All acceptable in crypto though. You will even be insulted and called a fool.

I am sorry but I am a little suspicious. What the purpose of that ? Isn-t-it a little risky to enter my seed ?

Right, it's risky, so do the following:

Store that html file locally.
Switch the Internet off.
Double-click the file.
Enter the seed.
Copy-paste the generated address.
Close the page.
Switch the Internet on.
Post the address here.

EDIT: The purpose is to see if you still can receive the iotas or not.

I obtain:

AUCUSILSKJJJHBKIZZT9ZEBVWXPYBZDBLOWN9QRVIODMWKPAJLWZXPAFT9WCRDNIZUADNMNPZJLUDWS SY

223 207 457 424 iotas are on that address, contact David (iotatoken).
Someone, explain him how to do that properly, please.

PS: Looks like was a lie, that might cost you 18000 USD...

Might not be a lie. He might just not be 100% sure what the process is.

How to contact David ?

Make sure it's https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=574177, someone might try to scam you to get your seed and claim instead of you.

ok thansk I am going to send him a message.

I bought 3 coupons to a car wash once because they were on a sale. Later I went to get my car washed and turned out the coupons had expired. I complained to the cashier and to her supervisor but they refused to give refund or extend the coupons because they had allegedly told me they expire after 3 months when I bought them. I guess I didn't bother listening or simply forgot. Suck it up, deal with it and move on.

http://img.picturequotes.com/2/2/1817/im-so-angry-i-made-a-sign-quote-1.jpg

Are you willing to make a testimony? I'm preparing something.
I just need your full name and address and your statement + a legit source of your claims.
Send me a pm and I get back with the details.

Come-from-Beyond just helped this user claim his iotas.
Besides, 93% of all iotas have been claimed until now.

Yes I confirm that Come-from-Beyond has helped me to understand a little better the problem (especially the difference between claim and reclaim) but I still don't know how to (re)claim manually these iotas. ???

If you are small time holder of byteball, please don't worry about a 50 or 100 price drop in byteball. If you forsee this as a problem in the future - I would suggest not buying anymore and just continue holding. Look at what recently happened with veteran coins in the past two months, eth, etc, litecoin, dash, xrp, xem..

Trust me when I say that byteball is priced perfectly right now. Just enough to curb mass accumulation and not too much to ruin the price growth - for the most part price growth seems organic. This is where whales and everyone should want it. And it's only been on bittrex for a month. DON'T hate yourself 3 years from now because you sold GB's below 1000USD. Remember, for every seller there is always a buyer.

And cut the crap with back and forth about IOTA. I haven't been around to know the details on both.. but WHO CARES?!? They both will exist as dags or tangles alongside of each other covering a wide spectrum of use cases. And both having success will benefit both tremendously. Anyway, I don't care all that much, I'm just here to hold byteball and its use cases.

I hate seeing part of the community attacking late claimers...I think it is primary selfish stance, just to make their iota rarer and more expensive.

Did you know by the way that yesterday, iota dev made a swap. Any iota before yesterday were donated to iota fundation and dev swimming pool.
Oh sorry, you weren't warned ! You should have participated and not sleep. You have enough time to sleep in the rest of you life, it is your fault...

So I wouldn't attack late claimers because they were less available than others. High profiles are less available also.
I saw another swap lasting one year just to be sure to not leave anybody behind.

Except you are ok to lose your iotas because time passed on chat or twitter is now a criteria, don't take holidays this summer, just in case a 2 weeks swap occurs.
You will lose your iotas and the community will mock you.

Be careful what you write, because it sounds like all iota were donated.