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Title: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: Ares on April 30, 2013, 03:52:25 AM
I sent them a message requesting that they do a piece on bitcoins and this was their response:

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Re:Bitcoins We've definitely been considering that, where can we find out more info on Bitcoins?

I'll certainly suggest weusecoins.com, but my response is also an opportunity to suggest talking points, such as big news in the Bitcoin world.

I'm making this thread to get some ideas on how best to respond.

Thanks


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: etheral on April 30, 2013, 03:53:43 AM
offfffff ccccourse!


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: Ares on April 30, 2013, 03:54:53 AM
offfffff ccccourse!

lol!  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: BTC Books on April 30, 2013, 03:56:38 AM
Put them in touch with the Bitcoin Foundation - and CC the email to the Foundation as well.


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: Ares on April 30, 2013, 03:59:27 AM
Put them in touch with the Bitcoin Foundation - and CC the email to the Foundation as well.

The PM's are through youtube, but I'll be sure to link them to the Foundation's email.


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: BTC Books on April 30, 2013, 04:07:14 AM
Put them in touch with the Bitcoin Foundation - and CC the email to the Foundation as well.

The PM's are through youtube, but I'll be sure to link them to the Foundation's email.

The Young Turks are big in liberal/progressive circles.  Very big.  Cenk, especially, is all over every media outlet there is.

As I've mentioned, if you were to draw a Venn diagram of the points of intersection between liberals, progressives, libertarians, conservatives, communists and fascists - and all that lies between on the political spectrum - bitcoin would be the only point of intersection.

And frankly, we could use some serious play in the liberal/progressive community - especially in the US.  I note that Obama was elected to a second term, so there must be quite a few of them.


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: seleme on April 30, 2013, 04:09:15 AM
That's a good stuff,Bitcoin Foundation would probably be the best way to do it.


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: Ares on April 30, 2013, 04:09:39 AM
Put them in touch with the Bitcoin Foundation - and CC the email to the Foundation as well.

The PM's are through youtube, but I'll be sure to link them to the Foundation's email.

The Young Turks are big in liberal/progressive circles.  Very big.  Cenk, especially, is all over every media outlet there is.

As I've mentioned, if you were to draw a Venn diagram of the points of intersection between liberals, progressives, libertarians, conservatives, communists and fascists - and all that lies between on the political spectrum - bitcoin would be the only point of intersection.

And frankly, we could use some serious play in the liberal/progressive community - especially in the US.  I note that Obama was elected to a second term, so there must be quite a few of them.

Here is what I have so far:

Thank you for the response. Just today the developer of gmail tweeted "Bitcoin may be the TCP/IP of money." (https://twitter.com/paultoo/status/328969714283995136). To start, here is a great site that is generally regarded as a sort of "Home Base" for new Bitcoin users, or those interested in learning more: https://www.weusecoins.com/en/. If following links from strangers on the internet isn't your thing, here's their most popular youtube video with an overview of Bitcoins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Um63OQz3bjo. Additionally, this site was founded by the developer of Bitcoin and this particular thread is a comprehensive overview of Bitcoins: https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=7269.0. The first Bitcoin ATM is going to be opened on may 2nd (https://www.bitcoinatm.com/). Also, paypal's CEO just recently came on the news and mentioned that they are looking into Bitcoin, and possibly adding it as a funding option. I would definitely mention Bitpay which is essentially the paypal of Bitcoin. It allows any company to add a bitcoin payment option to their website for free and then when anyone pays in Bitcoins, they immediately get converted into dollars (or whichever fiat) and deposited into the company's account with a fraction of the fee paypal or a credit card would charge and without any risk of chargebacks or double-spending which is a massive problem in the non-bitcoin world. I could (and would love to) go on forever, but i'll end with The Bitcoin Foundation's contact info (they are essentially the representatives of Bitcoin and consists of most of the largest holders): https://bitcoinfoundation.org/contact. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask.


Edit: not sure if this site was founded by Satoshi, heard it somewhere and figured i'd throw it in so they don't think I'm sending them to some random corner of the internet


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: tvbcof on April 30, 2013, 04:11:33 AM

I've mentioned Bitcoin a few times in their youtube comments, but the last time was at least a year ago.  Just in case one of the TYT guys is listening...

TYT were and are one of the best, but I lost interest after their atrocious performance on the gun control issue and have not paid much attention to them since.

I was really interested in the 'wolf-pac' thing but their analysis of the US constitution was so abysmal that I cannot justify supporting Cenk in any effort which would involve understanding of that document and the history behind it.

If/when I get back to following the TYT stuff I would be inclined to contribute only if I could do so using Bitcoin, and then only if I am in the mode of wishing to unload some of them.



Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: BTCLuke on April 30, 2013, 04:11:54 AM
I like Cenk, I think he'll be kinda fair, but remember he's still a statist at heart and would have more contempt than love for bitcoins when talking about matters of freedom.

I say make sure to keep him away from any questions the involve libertarianism/anarchy/decentralization.

Promote all the useful stuff to his viewer's world, like being able to pay for things by phone with miniscule fees and be sure to point him to that video from the Guardian about the Kreuzberg area of Berlin. That'll be perfect for his audience.


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: fwho on April 30, 2013, 04:14:21 AM
Put them in touch with the Bitcoin Foundation - and CC the email to the Foundation as well.

The PM's are through youtube, but I'll be sure to link them to the Foundation's email.

The Young Turks are big in liberal/progressive circles.  Very big.  Cenk, especially, is all over every media outlet there is.

As I've mentioned, if you were to draw a Venn diagram of the points of intersection between liberals, progressives, libertarians, conservatives, communists and fascists - and all that lies between on the political spectrum - bitcoin would be the only point of intersection.

And frankly, we could use some serious play in the liberal/progressive community - especially in the US.  I note that Obama was elected to a second term, so there must be quite a few of them.

Here is what I have so far:

Thank you for the response. Just today the developer of gmail tweeted "Bitcoin may be the TCP/IP of money." (https://twitter.com/paultoo/status/328969714283995136). To start, here is a great site that is generally regarded as a sort of "Home Base" for new Bitcoin users, or those interested in learning more: https://www.weusecoins.com/en/. If following links from strangers on the internet isn't your thing, here's their most popular youtube video with an overview of Bitcoins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Um63OQz3bjo. Additionally, this site was founded by the developer of Bitcoin and this particular thread is a comprehensive overview of Bitcoins: https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=7269.0. The first Bitcoin ATM is going to be opened on may 2nd (https://www.bitcoinatm.com/). Also, paypal's CEO just recently came on the news and mentioned that they are looking into Bitcoin, and possibly adding it as a funding option. I would definitely mention Bitpay which is essentially the paypal of Bitcoin. It allows any company to add a bitcoin payment option to their website for free and then when anyone pays in Bitcoins, they immediately get converted into dollars (or whichever fiat) and deposited into the company's account with a fraction of the fee paypal or a credit card would charge and without any risk of chargebacks or double-spending which is a massive problem in the non-bitcoin world. I could (and would love to) go on forever, but i'll end with The Bitcoin Foundation's contact info (they are essentially the representatives of Bitcoin and consists of most of the largest holders): https://bitcoinfoundation.org/contact. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask.


Edit: not sure if this site was founded by Satoshi, heard it somewhere and figured i'd throw it in so they don't think I'm sending them to some random corner of the internet

To me that sounds like you are trying to sell them Bitcoins, not teach them about it.


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 30, 2013, 04:14:33 AM
Why do I see people on one thread bitching about "Bitcoin Foundation takeover of Bitcoin" and lack of response to inquiries, and then on another thread people are recommending people be directed to them to respond to inquiries?

Why not refer newbies to Bitcoin Magazine's active journalist staff? They teach people about Bitcoin for a living and don't even charge 10,000 BTC to be a member!


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: Ares on April 30, 2013, 04:17:00 AM
Put them in touch with the Bitcoin Foundation - and CC the email to the Foundation as well.

The PM's are through youtube, but I'll be sure to link them to the Foundation's email.

The Young Turks are big in liberal/progressive circles.  Very big.  Cenk, especially, is all over every media outlet there is.

As I've mentioned, if you were to draw a Venn diagram of the points of intersection between liberals, progressives, libertarians, conservatives, communists and fascists - and all that lies between on the political spectrum - bitcoin would be the only point of intersection.

And frankly, we could use some serious play in the liberal/progressive community - especially in the US.  I note that Obama was elected to a second term, so there must be quite a few of them.

Here is what I have so far:

Thank you for the response. Just today the developer of gmail tweeted "Bitcoin may be the TCP/IP of money." (https://twitter.com/paultoo/status/328969714283995136). To start, here is a great site that is generally regarded as a sort of "Home Base" for new Bitcoin users, or those interested in learning more: https://www.weusecoins.com/en/. If following links from strangers on the internet isn't your thing, here's their most popular youtube video with an overview of Bitcoins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Um63OQz3bjo. Additionally, this site was founded by the developer of Bitcoin and this particular thread is a comprehensive overview of Bitcoins: https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=7269.0. The first Bitcoin ATM is going to be opened on may 2nd (https://www.bitcoinatm.com/). Also, paypal's CEO just recently came on the news and mentioned that they are looking into Bitcoin, and possibly adding it as a funding option. I would definitely mention Bitpay which is essentially the paypal of Bitcoin. It allows any company to add a bitcoin payment option to their website for free and then when anyone pays in Bitcoins, they immediately get converted into dollars (or whichever fiat) and deposited into the company's account with a fraction of the fee paypal or a credit card would charge and without any risk of chargebacks or double-spending which is a massive problem in the non-bitcoin world. I could (and would love to) go on forever, but i'll end with The Bitcoin Foundation's contact info (they are essentially the representatives of Bitcoin and consists of most of the largest holders): https://bitcoinfoundation.org/contact. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask.


Edit: not sure if this site was founded by Satoshi, heard it somewhere and figured i'd throw it in so they don't think I'm sending them to some random corner of the internet

To me that sounds like you are trying to sell them Bitcoins, not teach them about it.

Of course I am going to focus on the positives, but I feel that each topic I touched on is a talking point worth discussing, should they make a video on it.

But again, I made this thread for suggestions. Feel free to make them.


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: tvbcof on April 30, 2013, 04:18:05 AM
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And frankly, we could use some serious play in the liberal/progressive community - especially in the US.  I note that Obama was elected to a second term, so there must be quite a few of them.

Huh?  I spit on the ground every time I here the guys name.  Obama is hardly what I would call a liberal or a progressive.  I've never seen a bigger corporate lap-dog or a more scungy politician.  (My feelings are doubtlessly partially atributable to TYT's outstanding work on calling him out when he sells us out...which is on 99.9% of every issue he touches.)



Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: BTC Books on April 30, 2013, 04:23:12 AM
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And frankly, we could use some serious play in the liberal/progressive community - especially in the US.  I note that Obama was elected to a second term, so there must be quite a few of them.

Huh?  I spit on the ground every time I here the guys name.  Obama is hardly what I would call a liberal or a progressive.  I've never seen a bigger corporate lap-dog or a more scungy politician.  (My feelings are doubtlessly partially atributable to TYT's outstanding work on calling him out when he sells us out...which is on 99.9% of every issue he touches.)



You're correct - he isn't.  But consider the alternative...


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: tvbcof on April 30, 2013, 04:32:07 AM
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And frankly, we could use some serious play in the liberal/progressive community - especially in the US.  I note that Obama was elected to a second term, so there must be quite a few of them.

Huh?  I spit on the ground every time I here the guys name.  Obama is hardly what I would call a liberal or a progressive.  I've never seen a bigger corporate lap-dog or a more scungy politician.  (My feelings are doubtlessly partially atributable to TYT's outstanding work on calling him out when he sells us out...which is on 99.9% of every issue he touches.)


You're correct - he isn't.  But consider the alternative...

There are not any.  It's a rigged game.  I should not admit it, but at the present time I am a closet Libertarian/Anarchist.  The  only reason is because that is the best path through the forest to something more sane.  There is no political system more disturbing to me than Fascism and no painless way to excise that cancer.



Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: Ares on April 30, 2013, 04:37:14 AM
Put them in touch with the Bitcoin Foundation - and CC the email to the Foundation as well.

The PM's are through youtube, but I'll be sure to link them to the Foundation's email.

The Young Turks are big in liberal/progressive circles.  Very big.  Cenk, especially, is all over every media outlet there is.

As I've mentioned, if you were to draw a Venn diagram of the points of intersection between liberals, progressives, libertarians, conservatives, communists and fascists - and all that lies between on the political spectrum - bitcoin would be the only point of intersection.

And frankly, we could use some serious play in the liberal/progressive community - especially in the US.  I note that Obama was elected to a second term, so there must be quite a few of them.

Here is what I have so far:

Thank you for the response. Just today the developer of gmail tweeted "Bitcoin may be the TCP/IP of money." (https://twitter.com/paultoo/status/328969714283995136). To start, here is a great site that is generally regarded as a sort of "Home Base" for new Bitcoin users, or those interested in learning more: https://www.weusecoins.com/en/. If following links from strangers on the internet isn't your thing, here's their most popular youtube video with an overview of Bitcoins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Um63OQz3bjo. Additionally, this site was founded by the developer of Bitcoin and this particular thread is a comprehensive overview of Bitcoins: https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=7269.0. The first Bitcoin ATM is going to be opened on may 2nd (https://www.bitcoinatm.com/). Also, paypal's CEO just recently came on the news and mentioned that they are looking into Bitcoin, and possibly adding it as a funding option. I would definitely mention Bitpay which is essentially the paypal of Bitcoin. It allows any company to add a bitcoin payment option to their website for free and then when anyone pays in Bitcoins, they immediately get converted into dollars (or whichever fiat) and deposited into the company's account with a fraction of the fee paypal or a credit card would charge and without any risk of chargebacks or double-spending which is a massive problem in the non-bitcoin world. I could (and would love to) go on forever, but i'll end with The Bitcoin Foundation's contact info (they are essentially the representatives of Bitcoin and consists of most of the largest holders): https://bitcoinfoundation.org/contact. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask.


Edit: not sure if this site was founded by Satoshi, heard it somewhere and figured i'd throw it in so they don't think I'm sending them to some random corner of the internet

To me that sounds like you are trying to sell them Bitcoins, not teach them about it.

Update: I added "Here are some recent noteworthy developments with Bitcoin:" before listing off everything. This way it seems less like im pushing it on them, and more just trying to help their research (which is what I'm trying to do, after all)


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: charleshoskinson on April 30, 2013, 04:50:18 AM
Ugh


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: Ares on April 30, 2013, 04:55:03 AM
Ugh

 ???


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: charleshoskinson on April 30, 2013, 04:57:44 AM
I've given up on political demagogues a long time ago. Not getting drawn into this convo. I hope turk can broadcast Bitcoin in a positive light. Good luck


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: Ares on April 30, 2013, 05:01:53 AM
I've given up on political demagogues a long time ago. Not getting drawn into this convo. I hope turk can broadcast Bitcoin in a positive light. Good luck
They aren't political demagogues, they're a news organization. They aren't running for any kind of office and do stories on everything from funny animals to natural disasters.

I've followed them long enough to know that they'll be objective enough for this to be a worthy undertaking. If anything, I expect him to be enthusiastic about it because they run lots of stories on how terrible central banks are.


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: tvbcof on April 30, 2013, 05:20:31 AM
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I've followed them long enough to know that they'll be objective enough for this to be a worthy undertaking. If anything, I expect him to be enthusiastic about it because they run lots of stories on how terrible central banks are.

I'm not so sure.  They are at their core quite mainstream.  They are deathly allergic to anything which has the remote chance of being a 'conspiricy theory' which limits their effectiveness in some of the most interesting journalistic endeavors.  I don't think it is a calculated strategy to broaden the base but rather a true reflection of their mindsets.  I would not be at all surprised if most of them found Bitcoin to be too far out there and to far from standard orthodoxy to accept.  Not to mention the fact that they actually are (unhappily) indeed fairly 'statist' and Bitcoin is not something which will help the state much (although that may or may not be true depending on how development goes.)

Again though, TYT is doing some of the best work out there in my opinion.  Much of my outlook on the world comes from taking a significant helping of TYT mixed with a dash of Max Keiser and a pinch of Alex Jones, etc.  Pretty much any new source can have some value if looked upon through one filter or another (imho.)



Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: Wilikon on April 30, 2013, 05:28:29 AM
Put them in touch with the Bitcoin Foundation - and CC the email to the Foundation as well.

The PM's are through youtube, but I'll be sure to link them to the Foundation's email.

The Young Turks are big in liberal/progressive circles.  Very big.  Cenk, especially, is all over every media outlet there is.

As I've mentioned, if you were to draw a Venn diagram of the points of intersection between liberals, progressives, libertarians, conservatives, communists and fascists - and all that lies between on the political spectrum - bitcoin would be the only point of intersection.

And frankly, we could use some serious play in the liberal/progressive community - especially in the US.  I note that Obama was elected to a second term, so there must be quite a few of them.

Sadly Obama represents the very people who will not be a bitcoin friend. It would be the same thing if Romney was elected I believe. I agree about bitcoin being the ultimate crossroad with any kind of political sensibilities.
what people may miss abot why so many people from so many political colors love bitcoin is: bitcoin is money. Everyone Loves money! money is Power! Everyone Loves power!

that is why it is so simple to explain why everybody loves bitcoin because of the possibilities it may offers to so many wanting to reshape the world from their own perspective and political games one day.

We should just ban all those openly political people while it is young, from left to right while we build bitcoin. Let them come to the party, but LATE.


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: freedomno1 on April 30, 2013, 05:29:34 AM
I sent them a message requesting that they do a piece on bitcoins and this was their response:

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Re:Bitcoins We've definitely been considering that, where can we find out more info on Bitcoins?

I'll certainly suggest weusecoins.com, but my response is also an opportunity to suggest talking points, such as big news in the Bitcoin world.

I'm making this thread to get some ideas on how best to respond.

Thanks
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This forum this community is where you can learn the most :)


Title: Re: The Young Turks (850,000+ subscribers on youtube) responded to me about Bitcoins
Post by: freedomno1 on April 30, 2013, 05:42:53 AM
Were all just a cog to Hal promote the revolution that's trolling :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0