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BitBar -Cryto-Gold-Bars makes collecting your Cryto wealth to one simple secure location.
This is no simple Alt-coin shake and bake coin.Much hard work came to play when developing this superior Cryto-Bar
Most alt coins bring nothing new to the table. this Bar changes the game
Updated   2/23/2014
look at the specs:
Get your digital gold bar !
 
Ultra-Rare
POW+POS
Fast, continuous difficulty and reward calculation
Fair start:
no foreign forum pre release
no premine
no slow diff corrections for hours of instamining
no super-blocks at start
all binaries available
reward of 1 BTB per 10 minutes and quickly dropping
scrypt hashing

BitBar is not just another simple litecoin 30 minutes done clone.
Increasing reward and speed is easy.
Those networks are more vulnerable to double spend, spam and dust, but it works.
Even bigger problem is coming. Soon, outdated difficulty adjustment will crash those networks.
Decreasing reward in Bitbar is not just a quick move.
Every parameter is simulated and than tested on a live alpha network.
-no more rounding of reward down to two decimals
-heavily reduced Stake low-limit for small number of Bars
-adequately decreased fees
-new dynamic first connection and search for new nodes. Doesn't need client update for fixing connections.

 Scrypt chasing itself is no longer chain-jumping anti-resonance protection. Bitbar includes modified PPC's 'exponential moving average' difficulty/reward adjustment introduced in NVC. It's modified in a way that reward decreases a little slower, so first players don't have so much advantage over later ones.
With simulations and testing, chain should operate smoothly for years.
no resonance,
no high-diff crash,
no high-fee problems,
no spam and dust problem,
no connections problem.
We take lessons from competitors mistakes.


BitBar had me at Doesn't need client update for fixing connections.


it was only logical that Bitcoin would spark the creation of a truly innovative and brilliant cryto-currency . This is truly the gold bar to rule all the coins

 it took the creation of BitBar to get me into the forum
i am not a developer . I am just a person inspired by this currency  ;D

Updates for BitBar: Exchages , Pools , ECT.
[ANN] BitBar exchange. BitBars.net


Updated   2/23/2014

BitBar information Website

http://www.BitBars.net

BitBar Forum  

 http://www.bitbars.net/forum  

BitBar Auction Post Buy & Sell Orders
 http://www.bitbars.net/forum  

"NEW" BitBar exchange
 
http://www.bitbars.net/bitbar-exchange/

"NEW" BitBar ChatBox

http://www.bitbars.net/

"NEW" BitBar pools

http://btb.binarycoins.eu/ seems to be the best pool so far for BitBar

New BitBar Client Wallet Download
http://www.bitbars.net/downloads-bitbar-wallet/

Updated   2/23/2014

reserve

It's a trivial clone. It can be done on a weekend for a programmer familiar with forking bitcoin, maybe a few days more to get familiar with ppcoin. Most of your touted innovations were actually done by me, with ppcoin.

easy it may be but the fact the developer took the time to do and put the concept together is were the brilliance is. People always have great ideas but rarely act on them. Look at google and facebook i am sure many programmers could but together a social network but lack the will to do so. Many programmers could have done Bitcoin but never did it before satoshi. its the taking of action and creation that inspires me about this currency.

Thank you Sunny King for your innovations

A whole weekend? Really?

What does it take to do the centralised node checkpoints part?

-MarkM-

I have bolded a crucial word that you seem to have missed in Sunny's post.

Yes, credit is due for the truly innovative ppcoin, you are a great developer, but BitBar really put the pieces together for me, a super high value/rare scrypt PoW+PoS coin with no pre-mine fiasco.

 :D :D :D :D :D

Sunny King is not saying that he used his ideas.  He's saying that he used his code.

And how could you replicate Bitcoin before it was made???

Replicate - sort of copying

I think you have your definition screwed up.

Here's an analogy:
You think that person who coded bitbar like satoshi.
Actually Sunny King is like satoshi.

Yes I might have overestimated ;) Checkpoint part is not hard, Balthazar figured it out himself no problem, you just need to replace a key and switch a node to be master.

Except that the pre-mine was a fiasco! We watched it being pre-mined, some of us even participated in the pre-mine!

-MarkM-

done =/= thought of

There was no pre-mine, I started mining it immediately after I saw the forum post, I have no connection with the coin beforehand. When I opened the qt client and started solo mining, it was on block 19 for god sakes. There was no pre-mine. Yes some high powered miners joined in, that's not pre-mine, if you had the hardware, you could do it too.

Latest posts in the bar's own thread seem to indicate too that maybe the pre-mining is now over, but, also that might be it, the actual mining isn't even goinf to get started, the chain is stuck already maybe...

-MarkM-

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101820.msg1114884#msg1114884

http://www.awolfamongwolves.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/sarcasmMeter-1266531711.jpeg

Anyone could've, it didn't need big hardware, they set the difficulty so insanely low even just one modern CPU (a few cores) could have spewed out blocks faster than the target time between blocks. One GPU could have spewed them out ridiculously fast.

It was a public pre-mine right in front of our eyes.

-MarkM-

I can offer ultra rare small change coins :) reward 4 coins per block. the bitbar idea is yet to be understood :)

i am sorry i am a newbie just excited about this currency didn't know your accomplishments thanks for your work

Yes, exactly, the original PPCoin demonstrated that the difficulty was too low even way back then.

However much NoVaCoin increased it presumably also was not enough?

So by the time BitBar came out it should have been apparent that even more increase was needed...

-MarkM-

Oh no problem welcome to the world of cryptocurrency :)

SunnyKing = most unappreciated dev on forum
PPCoin = most unappreciated altcoin

 :o

Nope, ppcoin started at difficulty 256, the first block took about 20 minutes to arrive after build was published. For a SHA-256 coin, it was reasonable at that time.

Novacoin started with a very low difficulty for scrypt coins, so you probably could generate early blocks very fast with even cpu. That's how Balthazar got > 110K coins. Technically Balthazar didn't 'premine' either, he told his compatriot about the release.

Bitbar started with very low difficulty too.

I would recommend developers who want to fork ppcoin, to pick a higher starting difficulty. Due to the way minting is designed in ppcoin, block subsidy would drop as difficulty increase, if you pick low starting difficulty, it would greatly amplify first day mintage and give the public an impression of heavy premining. For ppcoin, we started at a high difficulty of 256 and with 9 days of announcement, yet there are still people accusing us of premining to this day.

couldnt agree more, great crypto !

oh don't get me wrong i am sitting on my limited PPC becasue i know they will do great . its just with my limited hardware i cannot seem to get enough PPC together .After my research PPC is starting to get me exited he he he he  just need to get more hardware

I think what makes BitBar so great is the concept of "bars" its a lot cleaner then 10,000 coins worth 1BTC. Smaller is better . What attracts people to the huge reward coins is the same thing that makes the large rewards coins less valued . Its easy per say to get a bunch of high reward coins but i think most people will agree easy never equates to value. It should not be easy to mine a good cryto-currency

I added a Poll to this thread so we can figure this out together. Bars VS. Coins . what is better?

+1  ;D

8 votes Bars winning ya ya  ;D

What use is a crypto that can only be mined by the devs. No one's figured out how to mine it in a pool and seeing as it's being mined at high diffs leads me to believe either the devs had a pool setup before hand or there are some individuals with obscene rigs mining the tits out of it, or both. Either way mere mortals can't touch it so it's useless.

had the opportinity to mine some in its early hours, however not able to get them anymore...

interesting...

Diff is already at 2.22216071 on scypt. Could this coin be so hard to mine...it killed itself already with a high diff?

A high diff means it's popular, if it's not popular, difficulty wouldn't go up high.

For the record in all my bitcoin related youtube videos I have promoted Litecoin and PPcoin, and how that I know SunnyKing is the dev I tip my hats I am a PPcoin fan and hold a few myself!

There is an official website of this? For more info about , thanks

http://bitbar.biz/

lol, I find the comment that the big innovation is the word "bars" very amusing

At the end of the day the currency that will win out will be...

- The one with the most convient ability to attain (easy to use exchanges), use (many vendors accepting), and hold (portable and secure wallets)


No matter how novel or innovative that actual coins code, those will be the factors that determines the coins viability in everyday commerce.

Bitcoin is way ahead in this game, although PPcoin and Litecoin I do feel will be standard bearer alternatives as their infrastructure has built up nicely.

Doesn't mean any altcoin is useless, they exist and once they do they will always exist long as there is a few people running the client so you never know.

(Yes, I am building a altcoin, but it's a clone of a clone with no innovation (forked smallchange which forked litecoin) and I'm under no pretense that it'll be a major coin but mainly making it as a tribute to FA Hayek who wrote about competing currencies. At the end of the day the real coins to me so far at BTC, LTC, and PPC and I'm interested to see what happens with XRP since there is other things going on with that currency)

it would have been nice if the difficulty was set to higher... since supposedly these bars should have been rarer than the coins... why set the difficulty to low from the start ?

To pre-mine it, that is, to snap up shitloads of coins before most miners have even heard of it.

s/coins/bars/

-MarkM-

Solo mine it they same way you solo LTC or any other scypt-based Coin.Anyone can do it!!! I several blocks in less than 8 hours with only 1000 k/h .

I'm solo mining it, it can still be solo mined reasonably at the moment with a single rig that produce 1mh or more. You will get several blocks per day.

It is good that difficulty is high!!!! That makes the value of the BARS  limitless . Easy does not equate Value. most alt-coins that came out you could mine thousands of worthless coins within an hour. With BITBAR i have been mining for almost two days and barely have two bars. This is good .LESS is more . I would rather have one gold BAR then a bunch of gold coins. that is what i believe the developers had in mind with BITBAR

Similar to Silver BARS vs Silver COINS.  ;) I pick bars, because they're usually always worth more if you compare premium bars vs premium silver. For generic, ehh, about the same give or take a few

+1

Sunny was the first one so successfully implement POS in a coin.

And Yahoo was the first one to have a search engine. Sunny is a good developer and ppcoin is very innovative, but being SHAxxx kills the deal for me. Also I always wanted a high value per unit alt-currency.

Not to get too far off topic ... but wasn't Netscape the first producer of a browser/search engine?   ;)

The difficulty and scarcity of these bars or coins only matter if the rest of the picture falls into place (vendors, exchanges, portable wallets, etc.)

Not saying it is bad or good, but I don't see how difficulty matters much, prices will adjust to the supply and demand for any particular coin, and in this particular case the demand is more important and demand will be fueled by infrastructure not the scarcity of the coin. If a coin is soooo scarce that very few people hold it I don't see the incentive to create infrastructure.

Quantity of money doesn't have much of an effect on an absolute value, but it can have an effect on incentives, for example

If currency A and B have the same difficult, same supply but B is in the hands of more individuals

I'd rather sell my goods with prices denominated in B because I open myself up to a larger market of people to sell to, despite the value of the currency itself being irrelevant (cause prices will adjust to it's value over time)


Although if a Coin has a difficulty so high that few people have it, and the few people that do hoard it then there is no incentive for vendors to sell goods in that currency, no market for an exchange to facilitate, and no reason to make the payment in that currency more convenient with portable wallets and such.


This is why PPcoin is so innovative, because of the way it distributes itself it'll result over time in the hands of more people opening up quite a market of people to sell to making worth going through the trouble of pricing goods in that currency (pricing good in a particular currency is in itself a service)

Bottom line: it's not about how little or how much money there is in nominal quantity that matters, but how many people have and want to use the money and who's willing to take it for what that determines it's value.

Caveat: although handing out money blindly without some effort creates a hazard that distort the structure of production leading to wasted resources, which is why the mining part is important that there is some effort enacted in it's creation to serve as a benchmark of value it's circulation... although making the required effort to high can be as counter productive as making it too easy.

[ANN] BitBar exchange. trade in all your coins for gold BARS

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194296.new#new

No wonder gold is so worthless... Walmart doesn't price its goods in gold! :)

-MarkM-

No, but it'd be worth more if they did actually, cause it would eliminate the transaction costs of exchange

If I could pay for goods in gold easier then it'd make more sense to have a larger holding of gold, and a smaller holding of USD, the demand to hold gold would increase quite a bit thus the price.

looks like BARS are still winning the BARS VS. Coins   Polling     ;D

Well, Wallmart doesn't price its goods in "PLN". "PLN" worthless?
All cryptocoins are based in false premise, bits are difficult; money are scarce. It's not true. This constraint have nothing to do with the nature of money:
-Liquidity
-Confidence, confidence could be expanded to credit.
-Reserve of value it's a merge of liquidity and confidence.
-Unit of account, simply math.

Fees, confirmations, blockchain and other "stones", sync, computer,...kill liquidity.
Confidence, what about confidence?

Difficult it's find gold in the river, people knowns, difficulty it's get meal (in some countries), ..., people knowns. Really people knowns? it's difficult point 40M/h at hour X to crypto currency Y, and gets Z coins/coupons.

Bitbar, like others, is a oximoron; no limit in imaginary world.
What the hell is "the byte gold bar"?
Wealth it's not related to one person (less to "special" bits), it's realted to society. You are rich, if people can offer you good  things that you need, for your money,...,

The usage of money it is the only thing that should trigger inflation. I think that no one of cryptocoins it's taking speed of money as parameter. And the other political concepts that money has, more complex that "scarce bits"; or "gold" "bar" bytes.

It's my opinion.

No liquidity no money

I think we are on the same page, gold and platinum have other uses other than as money which is why they still have value, but since very few places take gold for payment you don't see people carrying around gold coins for paying stuff anymore.

But I agree, scarcity is not what makes money valuable, it's how it functions as well... money

looks like coins are on the rise in the BARS VS. Coins poll !!!!

Bars through the roof!

+1  ;D

looks like a couple pools have been created for BitBar

What is the best pool for BitBar?

Since BitBar is based on NVC someone should adapt a successful NVC pool script...

http://btb.binarycoins.eu/ seems to be the best pool so far for BitBar

  0.7 BTB selling for 7-10 BTC at current rate i still believe you should hold your BTB due to the fact 1 BTB could equate to 10-100 BTC per 1 BTB

+1 he he he

get the client and more information from bitbars official website : http://bitbar.biz/

Bars over jokes

what a crazy record breaking night for the BitBar network up to 9 difficulty and climbing

who has a nice BitBar network stat site?

whats up everyone is people getting discouraged from mining the BitBar because its to hard?

Its hard to mine and priced arbitrarily. The end is coming for the clones...

I agree all the alt-coin clones are coming to an end . Time to make way for The cryto-Gold Bar  . BitBar the future of the world digital wealth

People like to have 1000s of coins if they're worth $1 each or more, otherwise they're just Zimbabwe coins. Despite the fact that it was "pre-mined" to the tune of hundreds, there's still only about 2700 of them in circulation, it'll likely never be worth less than a CNC.

But yeah, it'll probably get to the point where people simply buy them, rather than mining for a month to earn .000156789 BTB.

Lol

What the hell is 'cryto' ?

ancient egyptian word that translates to our language meaning "monkey crapping on a avocado" or archaeologist speculate it means a whale's vagina no-one really knows for sure.


Typo he he he  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

I know right!!!!1

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New update !!!

BitBar Auction Post Buy & Sell Orders
http://www.bitbars.net/bitbar-forum/?mingleforumaction=viewforum&f=2.0

Error establishing a database connection

Updating server to prevent DDOS be back in a couple minutes sorry for the delay there are around 20 or so bitbars on the auction right now

Are you joking? Mass amounts premined minutes from/during launch post time? 'accidental' coins being donated to an exchange? same book rewritten

Error establishing a database connection   Do not be alarmed Doing server and security updates for the BitBar exchange be back up shortly  ;D

update complete still a lot of BTB for auction

wow dang people starting to move there BTB  nice

Current market rates for BTB 7.5 BTC/1BTB  High   5BTC/1BTB low

how much time to mine a BTB with a couple of 7950's ? a month?

any reliable pools?

http://btb.binarycoins.eu/index (http://btb.binarycoins.eu/index)

Not sure if they are still accepting miners though...

About 5-15 days at current difficulty, realistically probably a month I would guess.

We are getting closer to release the Beta For the interactive automated BitBar exchange. Sorry if the website has been being silly but we have been doing massive security updates to ensure that your money is 100% safe.. this interactive exchange will be kinda like BTC-E and Bter but with some pretty snazzy extra features and Turbo secure . We are thinking of limiting the amount coins being exchanged for BitBars. Please if you want to see specific coins on the exchange now's the time to speak up. So if the Bitbars.net seems a little glitchy today its because of Testing & updates

Thank you everyone who has stood behind BitBar .i know who you are and there are some perks for you here in the near future.

its growing fast

not alot but pools would work

+1

To more BTB orders sold !!!!!!!!!!!!! bitbars.net BTB exchange

Please fix your site first before making any more forum posts. Its the most unstable site i seen in years.

try clearing your browser history!! ;D

If only he spent more time improving the site than he did advertising it. No offense. I do hope your exchange is rock-solid stable, otherwise it'll just hurt BitBar's reputation.

I rather put my energy on bter.com than his project.

The site is so unprofessional, and i doubt the exchange will be any good either. Keep to what works.

From the response that I received from bter.com and that others have received, it looks like that will be happening sooner rather than later. :)

BTB just hit 150BTC per bar, can't wait for it to reach bter  8)

looks like you bought stock in bter or are one of there developer.i dont care what you think all that matters is that people are moving there Bitbars on my exchange . Dont care about your paid for opinion . My goal was to help people exchange there BTB and thats what they are doing on MY site  ;D

great the more exchanges To support BitBar the better

To be honest, you make BTB look worse :)

Wow from the time that I made this post to now I just checked BTB is worth 2500 BTC

good thing i nor 96.3% of people don't care what you think

Thats okey, i just know that i will never use you for hosting any of my sites :)

They are just haters.

BTW I just checked and BTB is crashing since my last post now 1 BTB = 2499 BTC.

Curious, according to what?

Leaked graph from mtgox analysts:

https://i.imgur.com/V2YwKUe.png

Due to update Bitbars.net BTB exchange will be off and on for the next couple hours for updates gearing up for the launch of the automated BTB exchange BETA interface on bitbars,net

you can find All information on BitBars.Net along with the download wallet. Also you can buy and sell BTB on BitBars.net Exchange

Keep on with this great work

first altcoin aim to get a price higher than btc?

yes , 1 BTB should equate to 10-100-1000 BTC

yes much higher

you forgot 10000 BTC

told you btb would rise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and it's still rising

btb to the moon

Lol, welcome back sir.

Thank you sir good to be back. Now BitBar to the moon  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D thanks for support

looks like network support for BTB is on the rise

your getting warmer!!!! the bitbar was built to hold 100-1000 BTC in each BTB

BTB is always bringing sexy back ha ha ha  :D

With 10 cryptos comming out every day its hard to keep your head above water.

BitBar is still on my approved cryptolist, together with Bitcoin.

thank you  for your support of BitBar . I believe  BTB will save Crypto

Trucoin, you just launched RickCoin, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

yes sir i did!! i am rickcoins Daddy he he he he  just wanted to have some fun!! i think sometimes things get so serious around here .We need to stop and have some fun now and then  ;D

hmmm, then i want in, this is the same BTB on bter.com?

Yes sir!! the very same BTB as seen on Bter.com

BTB on bter rising!!!!!!!

True

Seems to simply be staying steady.

Make sure you get your pre-ordered BitBar USB secure Wallet SAFE
http://www.bitbars.net/bitbar-secure-usb-gold-bar-wallet-storage/


Has advanced safe functions to secure your digital wealth.!!!!!

buying up all the BTB i Can   ;D ;D ;D

good day !! what a wonderful sunday!!! Just bought up 5 BTB so happy

Aren't you tired of talking to yourself yet?

Difficulty is too high. not interested to mine it.

Ok why not, I'll give this one a try.

look at it this way !! yes it is hard to mine but very shortly as diff increase 0.03 BTB could bring 30-40 LTC . BTB has been getting crazy amounts of Bitcoin support. People who were in Bitcoin from the start are seeing a need for a secure alternative to BTC. BTB was built to support  Bitcoin. Call it a fail safe or a way to consolidate Massive amounts of digital wealth built on bitcoin. BitBar is the safest way to invest crypto. I get email From Butterflylabs and Avalon People buying of mass BTB. i broker for both to help them secure there massive digital wealth!!!!!

blabla, you're such a clown.

yeah, lets "consolidate" 1 btc in 5 worthless bitbar...

I'm wondering how much he says is true. The concept of BitBar is great and I totally support it. But I hope trucoin isn't destroying BitBar too much.

Brother my only desire is to bring BitBars to the people!! Have you ever just seen a product or service that you just loved and just knew that it would change the world and make it better? thats how i feel about BTB. I am a Bitcoin early adopter . i mined BitCoin  when it was new!! i remember what it was like to a bunch of BTC a day!!! I seen the need for BitBars . i feel safe with my digital wealth secured by Bitbar. Also for the people who say BitBar will fail.You are so wrong. BitBar took off faster than any other alt-currency !! Why? because it has the support of Bitcoin elite. BitBar was on a reputable exchange in less than 72 hours of launch!! why? because BitBar has the support of Bitcoin community!!!!!!! BitBar was built to support and secure Bitcoin wealth . This is fact. People hate Bitbar because it is hard to mine it!!! it was built to be hard to mine!!! Easy never equate to value!!!  BitBar was built tough and to assure its survival.   

BitBar currently has no services that support it in any way shape or form, you're taking donations to try and get it adopted but have you actually put any BitBar where your mouth is? Not as far as I'm aware.

Hell I'll add it to my BlackJack site (http://cryptoblackjack.kicks-ass.net) with micro bets if you donate a couple of BitBar to the bank to get it started. At least then it will have some tangible use besides consolidating 1 BTC into 5 BTB. I very much doubt you're prepared to do something like this, you'd much rather just keep spreading the word rather than putting your BTB where your mouth is.

i like your style!!!! i will donate and try and get some BTB investors involved!!!! thank you. how much do you need to get BTB added to your blackjack game?

Well as it's scarce and the rewards are tiny I'll do micro bets starting in the 0.001 region up to maybe 0.25 so 2 x BTB should be enough to get the ball rolling and give the house something to pay out on.

I will donate a bitbar to this

OK it's added with bets up to 0.11 for now to see how it pans out:

http://cryptoblackjack.kicks-ass.net/index.php?coin_type=13

The house donation address is displayed on the page. Once there is at least 0.5 BTB in the house account it should allow people to bet but this is the bare minimum. If it drops below that point deposits will close.

Thank you so much will place the link for blackjack with Bitbar on BitBars.net

i challenge all you peeps in blackjack for BitBars mooooah moooah he he he he  ;D ;D ;D


http://cryptoblackjack.kicks-ass.net/index.php?coin_type=13

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMTnd41WG-6hRrGAgKHysyiAhec9M5kaYXZueTLjmLRj2ujKnp

The only problem is they can't play it because just as I thought you're not prepared to put your bitbars where your mouth is and get the ball rolling with a donation to the house despite taking donations from others in order to get it implemented in some way, shape or form. Without funding the house cannot pay out on bets hence it cannot accept deposits. It's a chicken and egg situation.

With the exception of my initial additions (GameCoin, Doubloons, MinCoin & LuckyCoin) the initial house funding for all other supported coins was donated by the people who wanted to see their cryptocurrency of choice added and I have not removed a single donated coin since they were added, nor have I removed any earnings the house may have earned on any of those initial donations.

If none of you are prepared to support your precious BitBar by actually giving it some tangible use then why should I bother offering it as an option at all?

Trucoin should just stop posting, christ man seriously.  I love the concept, but if you cannot see you are doing more harm than good, you are basically a dyslexic trying to win a game of words with friends.

you people are so SMALL . everyone who takes the time to reply because of grammer & spelling should go kick rocks !!!

To the person who donated BitBar to get the ball rolling for BTB users on Crypto Blackjack I thank you. It's a most generous gesture.  8)

please donate to get BTB in the blackjack game

lets get it done  ;D

another great BTB day

three more days

Working p2pool for Bitbar (source code + zero-fee public node) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217894.0
Please help decentralizing Bitbar!

bitbar is now listed on my website :D

Thanks brother for your support!!!!

I'm considering making a video explaining BitBar, but I'll admit I don't see it's advantages, could someone please inform me :)

I'm just finished my comment to the PPC video, now I can help you with any coin you want.

P.M.'d

+1 million good job brother

links/main site full of scam popups   :o not a good start

adverts never hurt no-one helps fund the website

good weekend for BTB

My BitBar client stopped downloading blocks at 10734, a proof-of-stake block.
The log file reads:
receive version message: version 60005, blocks=10745, us=178.9.58.204:58478, them=69.164.204.215:8777, peer=69.164.204.215:8777
accepted alert 1313, AppliesToMe()=0
accepted alert 13133, AppliesToMe()=0
accepted alert 13133, AppliesToMe()=0
accepted alert 13133, AppliesToMe()=0
accepted alert 1313, AppliesToMe()=0
accepted alert 1313, AppliesToMe()=0
accepted alert 1313, AppliesToMe()=0
accepted alert 1313, AppliesToMe()=0
accepted alert 1313, AppliesToMe()=0
accepted alert 13133, AppliesToMe()=0
received block 32eef2971e86e8ca43c6
Misbehaving: 69.164.204.215:8777 (0 -> 100) DISCONNECTING
disconnecting node 69.164.204.215:8777
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : block with too little proof-of-stake

As far as I know I'm using the latest version, v0.4.0.0-g32a928e-beta

Can anybody help?

There are no problems with PoS blocks so far. all clients are synced.

Delete everything in your userdata\roaming\bitbar direcotory, just remember to leave wallet.dat and bacup it , if You didn't allready

Redownload blockchain, its very compact so should be quick.

Thanks, that helped!
Just wonder why....
You happen to be able to give me a few hints regarding PoS blocks?
How long would I need to keep 30 bitbar until a proof-of-stake might appear?
Does it make a difference if I received the 30 bitbar in one transaction, or if they are distributed over e.g. 30 transactions of 1 bitbar each?

Thanks!

Stake power needed to mint PoS blocks starts rising after 30 days from transaction.
30 bitbars is almost 1% of all!! that should make it very very easy to make a PoS Block.
If this is one transaction, I think no more than 2 days after initial 30, and possibly first minutes.
If many very small transactions - it could be another month.

To enable PoS minting you have to unlock Your wallet.

Create a .bat or .cmd file with those lines

@echo off
@echo Enter PPC password...
SET /P variable=Password :
bitbard walletpassphrase %variable% 9999999 true

and run in form your wallet directory after sync, than enter your password and you should see a change in bottom right corner of GUI.

Hi BitBardev,

ah ok that explains some of it.
I only read those examples regarding PPCoin where they said 1 coin for 30 days, and so I thought 30 coins might already start after 1 day, but from what you say it still needs to be the thirty days, so that explains why nothing's happening so far, and why the first PoS blocks only started appearing a few days ago. Does that have to do with proof-of-stake difficulty falling for the past few days when taking a look at getdifficulty output?

I already have my wallet unlocked for minting, but I prefer doing it manually in the client after starting. It's just a pity that with ctrl-l you can delete the console output, but you cannot seem to delete the command history that way, so the password stays visible there.

Thanks!

looking for some technical support.

when I do a getdifficulty in the client console I get valid response proof-of-work and proof-of-stake values.   hoever if I do a json rpc call to the client using the following conf file the POW and POS come back as 0.0.  

rpcuser=*username*
rpcpassword=*password*
server=1
rpcport=10004
rpcallowip=192.168.0.1
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1

Am I missing something?

this is what I'm passing to the client  { "jsonrpc": "1.0","id": "1", "method": "getdifficulty" }

Hi BitbarDev,

so, since yesterday they got their 30 days. So far, the client has created a PoS block for 7 times, and in all cases they remained unconfirmed and didn't make it onto the network. :-(
Is this normal?
When I'm solo-mining, my PoW worked fine (though I haven't solo-mined with 0.4.1 yet).

Thanks!
Mike

I understand you are generating this manually? Did you check how this RPC would look like if you use e.g. bitbard to send it via rpc to the running instance?

@BitBarDev: Example: One of the blocks is from 4:10h UTC, so it was chronologically between blocks 13066 and 13067 (>20mins after 13066, >8mins before 13067), so no chance for it becoming orphaned I would normally assume...?

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Ok seems I missed that not only was there already a 0.4.2 but even already a 0.4.3 (even though it still identifies itself as 0.4.2), now I finally got my first proof of stake with block 13099 - hooray :-)
So my understanding now would be that it's ripe for next proof of stake right after those 520 blocks, or 520 blocks+30days?

Kind regards
Mike

???? Do I need to mine on my BTB wallet to get POS STAKES or will just opening the wallet with mature coins in it generate the proper credits to the network and create my POS stakes????

Just open the wallet and unlock it (using "walletpassphrase" command in command line windows from BitBar).
I guess if you were mining your POS wouldn't really make you happy as it gets rounded to zero.
In my case I consolidated funds by moving money from multiple smaller transactions (i.e. mining) to myself in one transaction to have a larger POS.

Are there ways to earn this coin without mining, maybe by writing?

Is this coin dead?

It's not dead, but it is lacking documentation and community involvement on bitbar.biz and bitbar.info. The owners of those sites need to get the projects up on github so the community can contribute.

far form dead!!! Poeple are just being quite about it. Greedy miners don't want others mining

You'll find active Bitbar communities here:

Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/bitbar/

Twitter
https://twitter.com/bitbarnews

New Bitbar forum http://www.bitbars.net/forum   join today

Very nice BTB just had a huge bump https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/23

its time for litebar, bitbar is out :D

that's like saying bitcoin is out and litcoin is better. Bitbar is the bitcoin and litebar is the litecoin .

What is the current difficulty of the network for this coin?

It's a trivial clone. It can be done on a weekend for a programmer familiar with forking bitcoin, maybe a few days more to get familiar with ppcoin. Most of your touted innovations were actually done by me, with ppcoin.

try this thread for Bitbar:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196125.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196125.0)

this is the current web site:
http://Bitbar.co (http://Bitbar.co)

we are working on finding a new dev.