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 Let's begin.

Alright, I see many a foot shoved up a Muslim ass on this forum, especially of late. As I've stated earlier, ISIS and general extremist organisations have been having a prolific summer; the recent font of terror that has swept Europe and the Philippines recently is off the fucking chain.

But what I haven't seen is anyone talking about is the spout of domestic terror that's been going on this past month.

Besides the very recent Portland stabbings, we saw the College Park campus stabbing, and the NYC sword attack.* Three stabbings, people. They aren't just stabbing motherfuckers everywhere, you have to seek out a stabbing nowadays. It takes a special kind of crazy to wield a melee weapon, the shortest ones they make, in the land of a million guns. I digress.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/us/university-of-maryland-stabbing/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/31/us/portland-train-stabbing-what-happened/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4354674/New-York-sword-killer-charged-terrorism-stabbing.html

In every one of these cases, the perpetrator was a known while supremacist/alt right adherent. To be fair, there was a black guy also running around campus stabbing up random white folk.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2017/05/01/multiple-people-stabbed-ut-austin-campus

Not so much they are white supremacists as the fact that it was Facebook easy to find out. These guys are in gangs essentially, gangs that have forums and Facebook pages, pretty much just like ISIS.  If criminal affiliation is known to the public, why wasnt law enforcement doing anything about it? They just had a major gang round up across multiple cities about a week ago, but it only seemingly affected Black and Hispanic gang members (looking at the statistics, you would believe Whites dont participate in gangs, period)

Why does law enforcement treat these gangs, which they certainly are, so less seriously than online radicalized Muslims? We spend FBI resources cultivating some of our Islamic radicals (the lengths they go through to facilitate these guys in building their case is absurd). Why not spend resources investigating terror that you don't have to convince? And the amount of damage that could be caused by one of these actors is greater, because we don't question the role of Whites in White society. Arab with a backpack on near a public event, tackle his ass. White dude with a backpack near a public event, he's a 'backpacker' ;)

Do we downplay the seriousness of these attacks because of the race of the victims, or the race of the perpetrators?

Despite an uptick in far-right violence and the Trump administration’s plan to increase the Department of Homeland Security budget by 6.7 percent to US$44.1 billion in 2018, the White House wants to cut spending for programs that fight non-Muslim domestic terrorism.

The federal government has also frozen $10 million in grants aimed at countering domestic violent extremism. This approach is bound to weaken the authorities’ power to monitor far-right groups, undercutting public safety.

It's funny how terror is apparently a sometime thing, when it comes to race in America.

Thoughts?


*started writing this post before I went to bed. Woke up to yet another stabbing. And this wasn't the first time our friend had even stabbed anyone. Yet he slipped through the cracks somehow.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/major-trump-supporter-accused-of-fatally-stabbing-black-man-following-bus-stop-political-argument/

A California supporter of President Donald Trump has been arrested for a possible racially motivated stabbing.

Phillip Wade, 38, of Antioch, California allegedly stabbed a black man multiple times after getting off a bus in Oakley on Saturday afternoon, according to the East Bay Times.

Wade apparently fatally stabbed a homeless veteran in 2013, while a 2011 stabbing also involved an altercation that carried over from public transit.

Can you sleep at night fearing that KKK will come to your doorstep with noose?

Of course not. You are comparing individual acts of instanity and violence with an actual ongoing guerilla war. Even singling out "far right" (without being able to specify what that is) without mentioning, that majority politically motivated violence in the west is in fact commited by far left -that is being sponsored by state and universities.

But to your rhetorical question "how to not get stabbed".

Stop frequenting places with agitated people, learn how to be polite to strangers and if you still feel unsafe - wear a chainmail. It works.

Your article really makes sense, if anyone is to harm the USA the most , its going to be a domestic terrorist, but the USA are very confident that they are going to be able to stop these kind of attacks, normally they think its going to be another huge attack like the Oklahoma bombing or the 9/11 attacks so much that, they dont give an ear to the knife wielding kind of attacks, even though in each of the scenarios people are still going to die. Even though they prioritize Islamic extremism attacks, they should also give attention to these knife attacks as well.

What? In United States, citizens are actually able to arm and protect themselves. Neither guns, nor knives or stab-proof vests are illegal in your country as they are United Kingdom or Germany.

And when you are getting attacked - I hope you will never be, then it doesnt fucking matter, who is on the other side of the knife. What matters is, if had the option to defend yourself effectively or not.

Islamic terrorism can and will be fought, first and foremost by muslims themselves, because it has clear ideology, pool of recruits and is financed centrally. Domestic violence will never be eradicated in any culture around the world, because it is rooted in hearts of men, who have lost their way. You cant make idiot-proof system without dehumanizing population first.

When Greenbits compares ongoing cultural war against worldwide jihad with domestic violence, he is relativizing grave situation entire secular world is in. Perhaps, he is nihilist and doesnt fucking care.

Its unfortunate that things have gotten to this point where one will have to start learning all this mechanisms just because some set of people are fighting the government that you might not even help installed but unfortunately be part of their citizens and also because the government that is responsible for protecting you has equally failed in that responsibility. My grouse is against the terrorist, I am not against your argument for fighting but for goodness sake take it against those who wronged you and those are the ones in power and stop harming innocent civilians who probably don't know what's going on and whose killing will not even influence the already actions of government.

:D :D..Much worse with the young having to carry knives in case they get stabbed NOT
by a ISLAMIC CRAZY but another youth..

So believe me THE KIDS KNOW TO WELL ABOUT WEAPONS.. ;) Because they carry them..

See if you live in London rich your DELUDED  :D..

Man these terrorist are no worse than the POOR YOUNG adults ..
They have guns knives pipe bombs petrol bombs anything that will hurt or kill you..

Battle zones in the poor areas..

SO YOU BETTER LEARN HOW TO FIGHT.. ;)

BECAUSE these stupid GREEDY PEOPLE have made the EARTH become a predators ground for MONEY...

You ain't seen NOTHING YET..As time goes on you will see it become way worse..

The greedy politicians want an AMERICAN style of living .. >:( >:( >:(..

Meaning GREEDY PEOPLE who don't like paying taxes for nice schools roads and hospitals..

MEANING THIS..
US Murder Rate Increases in Cities in 2016: Report | Time.com
time.com/4607059/murder-rate-increase-us-cities-2016/
19 Dec 2016 - The 30 largest U.S. cities saw a double-digit increase in their murder rate in 2016, according to a new year-end report, even as crime .


IT DOUBLED the murder rate..And as if America wasn't bad as it is for MURDER ..DOUBLED .. :o

And the EU and the UK WANT us all to live a life like the AMERICAN WAY..
Because they are rich and want you to be SLAVES..

WELL THEY CAN FUCK OFF ;)..

We BRITISH WILL DO THIS..
Execution of King Charles I - "To Kill a King" [2002] - YouTube
Video for ENGLISH cut the kings head off▶ 3:38
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Execution of King Charles I - "To Kill a King" [2002] .... My understanding is that Charles prayed for several ..

WE SHALL NEVER EVER BE SLAVES..

And you TORIES GET OUT ..You greedy LYING SCUM BAGS..

jeremy hunt  YOU DIE ..I HOPE YOU GET KILLED..FINGERS CROSSED ;D..

So any crazy ISLAMS get that TWAT..

I watched a doctor cry is eyes out over the NHS ..

YOU HAVE CHILDREN'S DEATHS ON YOUR HANDS..Our CHILDREN >:( >:( >:(..

I hope you die you SICK TWAT..
Many children are dying because what your doing..

You CUT THE NHS BY HALF..
And INVITE EVERYONE INTO OUR LAND ..To fill it to kill it >:( >:(..

So you can privatise it for YOUR GREEDY BASTARDS ..MF TWATS..

I fucking hate your GUTS DIE TWAT..

Please GET RUN OVER ..JEREMY HUNT..So i can do a DANCE..You CHILD KILLER.. >:(

#OurNHS | Cuts and Closures - YouTube
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The reality of cuts and closures as told by a doctor who has already experienced them. ... Join the #

And then you invite 350 thousand people a year to fill these hospitals ..
How does it WORK?..

NHS cuts blamed for 30,000 deaths in new study | The Independent
www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas › US politics
17 Feb 2017 - NHS cuts blamed for 30,000 deaths in new study .... mortality, we ask why is the search for a cause not being pursued with more urgency?”

Boy of eight died after paramedics told NOT to take him to nearest ...
www.birminghammail.co.uk › News › NHS
7 Mar 2017 - A boy of eight died of a cardiac arrest – after paramedics were told NOT to take him to his nearest hospital following NHS cuts. ... was controversially closed for admissions last September due to a shortage of specialist doctors.

Needless baby deaths caused by wrangling over NHS funding
www.telegraph.co.uk › News
15 Jun 2016 - Babies are dying and mothers and unborn children put at needless risk because of wrangles over NHS funding, doctors have warned.

Child with rare cancer 'left to die' after NHS refused treatment | UK ...
www.express.co.uk › News › UK
15 Jun 2016 - As far as I am concerned, the NHS has left my son to die ... "They said the chemotherapy would cost too much, and because of his unique ...


YOU DIE JEREMY HUNT..TWAT..I HATE YOU SO MUCH..

Mind you i thinks 50 MILLION PEOPLE DO :D :D..You scum bag..

Your greed is creating all this MADNESS ..

Kids dying over gangs   kids dying in hospitals   kids dying in wars

AND GUESS WHAT KIDS?..They expect for you to pay there pensions and die in a war for them..

CHEEKY BASTARDS..

There is huge variance between states in the USA as to access to weapons. Some states are virtually no different than Europe, although the last several decades have seen an across the board shift toward increased acceptance of weapons and of their being carried publicly.

Vote LABOUR ..It will be so bad for the many under the TORIES THE NASTY PARTY..

THE TORIES ARE THE LYING PARTY..

Even down to the way you created a American police style approach with GUNS ..
Now you up the ANTI they use guns the criminals will use guns then when police and the pubic get shot you create the hate between the public and the police ..

Then you just created a Chicago style BRITAIN ..

Look those who say immigration is profitable then where is all the money for schools homes
hospitals ?..YES IN THE FEW RICH PEOPLES HANDS..

Imagine a factory needing 1000 workers if the factory invites 1000 workers from abroad to work in there factory ARE YOU SAYING WE MAKE MONEY AS A COUNTRY?..

No we don't because it's the owner of the factory who makes the money and then pays little tax..
While all along the NHS schools council homes doctors surgery all get many many more people
added to there list ..

So if they do cuts it's not good for the people who are already here BUT they keep adding MORE..
and they keep saying IMMIGRATION makes you money..NO IT DOESN'T..

It makes the OWNER OF THE COMPANY MONEY..

Now imagine a 1000 immigrants in the factory get Tax credits child care school council home
PLUS the owner of the FACTORY GET ..

Corporate welfare is a term that analogizes corporate subsidies to welfare payments for the poor. The term is often used to describe a government's bestowal of money grants, tax breaks, or other special favorable treatment for corporations.


So by the time we tax payers fork out for all this for a 1000 immigrants WE LOOSE..

NOW BRITAIN is the 5th richest country ..IT'S NOT..
You mean it as the money BUT ONLY A FEW OWN IT..

You should say it has the 5th richest people who live in it the rest are poor..
So it's not the country that's rich it's a few people..

AND THEY DON'T LIKE SHARING ..I.E paying taxes..

IMMIGRATION is only good for cleaning old ASSES and the NHS..
And they don't make you money BUT they are needed..

Not many like cleaning BUMS..So we need poor people who will do anything for money..
And the poorest of the world will be the ones doing it..

I mean it's like this      are money compared to there money is worth more so they will wipe a bum for 300 pounds a week..

Now invite me to DUBAI to a RICH ARAB  and i will wipe his bum for 2000 GRAND A DAY ;)..
Easy not a problem for 2k a day.. AND ID SNIFF IT if i had too :D :D..Well 2k a day.. :D

so that's why someone from AFRICA or where ever will wipe our bums for 300 pounds a week..

Same as why i would do it for 2k a day ..I do it for 1k  :D

Our western lands went crazy because we invited poor crazies to go crazy around our lands..
religious ones no so religious ones BUT ALL POOR CRAZIES..

You do know most poor are crazy..CRAZY FOR MONEY..

MONEY PREDATORS..Well even the rich had to start somewhere ..

I believe CLINTON was suppose to be a big time COKE dealer with many hits to his name..
CRAZY FOR MONEY..<Money PREDATOR..

BUT THOSE POOR ARE TO BLAME ::) ::) :D :D :D..What a JOKE..

How to not get stabbed?

Have a bigger stabber. And don't listen to the politically correct garbage that everyone's nice and we all need to sit in a big circle and sing Kum Ba La.

According to this writer, those who defend Islam are as guilty as those in Islam who murder. I tend to agree with his reasoning, because those ideas such as Greenbits proposes are "enabling."

https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2017/06/05/islamophobia-as-murder-weapon/

This is actually excellent advice - rather neatly represented by arms evolution over time.

However, when you take war into the cities things get complicated. You cant expect everyone and their grandmother to be equipped and trained with short swords.

Thats why we have guns.

Also many people, who are weak or pacifist may benefit from prevention. Certain places are more likely to be attacked by terrorists than others.

Finally, there is passive defense in form of cut proof clothing, chaimail, good running shoes and phone, that can call the authorities.

Have a bigger stabber.WRONG..

Well the normal person I.E the ones with CASH wont carry a knife they end up in jail for carrying it..
Then they be someones BITCH and if they don't want to be a BITCH they will become an
ISLAMIC CRAZY..

See in the USA to not be a BITCH you can walk around like John Wayne so less likely someone will try and rob you unless they can sneak upon you and then rob you..

So in other words just BANG your dead and rob you..
You upped the ANTI..
And that's why so many die in YOUR NATION..

Not much socialism means hunt for money means people carry guns so you don't rob them
so the only way is to kill them before they kill you..

Like if you seen someone with a gun you wouldn't say anything just shoot him in the head straight away before he thinks to pull his gun out..

And the POLICE KNOW THIS ..
So they take no chances and they shoot to kill YOU CANNOT BLAME THEM..


It's a jungle out there famous words from HILL STREET BLUES..


Michael Conrad, "Let's be careful out there" - YouTube
Video for hill street blues it a jungle out there▶ 0:11
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Michael Conrad, "Let's be careful out there" .... It's a jungle out there.  ... Michael Conrad as Sgt Phillip ..


WHY A JUNGLE ..and don't say because america as loads of blacks :D..

It's because of the POVERTY..No collecting taxes to look after the poor so they don't do crazy shit..

With a universal income it wont stop crime always get greedy people but it will cut crime down by many many fold ..And will make the planet a much nicer place to grow old in..

I knew I was wrong.

The answer is two bigger stabbers, not one.

When you are an armed black man in the United States of America,  this is just giving the police men the opportunity just to kill you, so by exercising your second amendment,  you are also endangering yourself. I would rather be attacked by knife wielding assailant rather than the police shooting me on site.q

LOL, where I live, the KKK might catch its issue. The natives of the county I reside in (Robeson) , the Lumbee Indians, literally ran out the bigoted white assholes a few decades ago. It's part of the historical record of this rich state, let me share ;)

http://www.ncpedia.org/history/20th-Century/lumbee-face-klan

Robeson County in the 1950s had a uniquely tri-racial population. There were about 40,000 whites, 30,000 Native Americans, and 25,000 African Americans, each group with its own separate school system. Although the Klan had typically targeted African Americans, in early 1958 a group led by James W. "Catfish" Cole of South Carolina began harassing the Lumbees. One of the crosses burned on the night of January 13 was on the lawn of a Lumbee family that had recently moved into a predominantly white neighborhood, while the other was intended to intimidate a Lumbee woman who was said to have been dating a white man. Not content to leave it at this, the Klan planned a rally in Robeson County to be held just a few days later.
The rally was scheduled for the night of January 18, 1958, in a field near Maxton, N.C. The stated purpose of the gathering was, in the words of Catfish Cole, "to put the Indians in their place, to end race mixing." The time and location of the rally was not kept secret, and word spread quickly among the local Lumbee population.

Reports vary about the number of people gathered on that cold night, but there were thought to have been around a hundred Klan members. They brought a large banner emblazoned with "KKK" and a portable generator, which powered a public address system and a single bare light bulb. When the meeting began, the arc of the dim light didn't spread far enough for the Klansmen to see that they were surrounded by as many as a thousand Lumbees. Several young tribe members, some of whom were armed, closed on the Klan meeting and tried to take down the light bulb. The groups fought, and a shotgun blast shattered the light. In the sudden darkness, the Lumbees descended upon the field, yelling and firing guns into the air, scattering the overmatched Klansmen. Some left under police protection while others, including Catfish Cole, simply took to the woods.

Good shit ;)

Anywho, why are these acts attributed to lone actors, instead of an ideological school? And before I use the term again ,let define the alt right, shall we ;)

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alternative-right

The Alternative Right, commonly known as the Alt-Right, is a set of far-right ideologies, groups and individuals whose core belief is that “white identity” is under attack by multicultural forces using “political correctness” and “social justice” to undermine white people and “their” civilization. Characterized by heavy use of social media and online memes, Alt-Righters eschew “establishment” conservatism, skew young, and embrace white ethno-nationalism as a fundamental value.

Let's explore each case:

1. Urbanski is a member of a Facebook group called "Alt-Reich," which spews hatred toward minorities "and especially African-Americans," University of Maryland Police Chief David Mitchell said.

2. In April, Christian was filmed and photographed doing a Nazi salute while shouting: "Die Muslims!" at an alt-right "free speech" rally.

In February 2016, Christian wrote, "Just to clarify a few things: 'I Hereby Solemnly swear to Die trying to Kill Hillary (Herself a filthy Murderess) Clinton and Donald Trump should they be elected to the post of President in my faire country on Vinland. This I swear to Odin, Kali, Bastet and all other Pagan Gods and Goddesses in my Aryan Theosophical Nucleus. This is my duty as a Viking and Patriot. In Jesus name....I Feel The Bern!!!!" (hehe, he reminds me of yall a bit ;) )

3. He (James Jackson) was, he told the Daily News, a regular reader of the neo-Nazi website the Daily Stormer; on YouTube he subscribes to the channels of a vast assortment of alt-rightists and fellow travelers, from Hitler-worshiping revisionist “historians” who call themselves things like Esoteric Truth and the Impartial Truth to conspiracy-addled right-wingers like Alex Jones and the resolutely anti-feminist, anti-Muslim YouTube “philosopher” Stefan Molyneux. .

4. “Wade’s Facebook page outlines increasingly hostile statements and threats towards Muslims and African-Americans,” the East Bay Times reported. “On May 19, Wade posted a threatening racist statement concerning former President Barack Obama along with the gun emoji and the emoji of a man wearing a turban.” .

100 percent alt right, per their own admission. You can debate number 4, but I'm pretty sure he didn't vote Democrat.

 Crazy stuff, huh? So, I still don't understand why this religious/ideological extremism is any different. People are dying, badly, because of a criminal organization that plainly seeks to propagate terror through public attacks. Be it ISIS, or AltReich. Call a spade a spade friend. Black lives certainly don't matter, but where is that 'all lives matter'? Surely 'these' victims of terror are just as important as 'those' victims of terror, no? Surely we are all equal as humans, in your world ;)

And that something else interesting you said, about leftist terrorism. The Government Office of Accountability doesn't seem to agree with you :(

https://theintercept.com/2017/05/31/the-numbers-dont-lie-white-far-right-terrorists-pose-a-clear-danger-to-us-all/

http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-17-300

“Since September 12, 2001,” noted a recent report prepared for Congress by the Government Accountability Office, “the number of fatalities caused by domestic violent extremists has ranged from 1 to 49 in a given year. … Fatalities resulting from attacks by far-right wing violent extremists have exceeded those caused by radical Islamist violent extremists in 10 of the 15 years, and were the same in 3 of the years since September 12, 2001.”

The report continues: “Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far-right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent).” That’s a margin of almost three to one.

The report points out that “the total number of fatalities is about the same for far-right wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period,” with the latter edging out the former by 119 to 106. However, the report also acknowledges that “41 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event — an attack at an Orlando, Florida night club in 2016.” .

Eh, it's just a dumb government report right? Probably some deep.state bullshit.

And why should I have to wear chainmail? I pay taxes. Let's jail these motherfuckers, and shoot them, and do the same things that we would do to a radical Islamic terrorist. I mean, a terrorist is a terrorist, or are they only a terrorist when they aren't White?

You answered your own bullshit.

Meanwhile, in the real world, 30,000 Islamic terrorist acts since 2001.

www.thereligionofpeace.com

Sometimes I think you don't read what I post before you respond, Spendelus, and that makes me sad :(

Domestic terror. Check the thread title. Not global terror. And I think I would trust a non partisanship, tax payer funded, government commissioned report rather than some dudes at a website, with no funding. And for the record, the numbers are inflated because it attributes crimes to Islamic extremists that even the police have not attributed. Be aware of the flaws in your source.

 Meanwhile, the government report only deals with cases that were officially deemed terror by the authorities. I think the authorities are a bit better at gauging terror than your Islamaphobic website ;) it's an interesting read though.

Neat! We have one about immigration around here, it's a tad more colorful than that one. But we know about 'radical Islamic terror', we are talking about homegrown terrorist, in this century, committing domestic acts of terrorism against their fellow citizens. Specifically in my examples, the alt right white national variety.

Why do we keep bringing up Islam? Why can't we talk about these terrorists? ;)

Here's ours ;)

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/26/nc-billboard-supporting-trump-travel-ban-ignites-controversy-with-911-reference.html

http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2017/05/26/nc-billboard-supporting-trump-travel-ban-ignites-controversy-with-911-reference/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/876/493/1495824381307.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

I think the red really sets the rhetoric off, don't you agree? It's all so hilarious too, when you think about it;


"This has nothing whatsoever to do with hatred or hostility toward anyone that comes from a background," Dave Kistler, the group’s president, told WCNC-TV. "I have dear friends that are Muslim."

The station points out that the 19 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Lebanon. Those countries are not part of the president's travel ban.

Kinda wish we could have seen the straight up immigration ban without it being watered down. They would have booted that shit out even quicker ;)

I'm sorry, since when is self-proclaimed nationalist socialist Jeremy Joseph Christian an "alt-right adherent"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can4b5XRkxI

As convicted felon, couldn't LEGALLY vote for anyone, but claimed on his Facebook that he didn't vote for Trump but supported Sanders*/Stein.

Whether he actually wrote in Sanders*/Stein on an illegally-issued ballot is up to nobody to investigate, b/c "election fraud is fake news!"

*a nationalist socialist

I don't support Trump in any way.
I am from Canada.

But i seen a news story the other day that said there was going to be a shift with the war on terrorism.

The reality is the domestics are often indoctrinated and trained and recruited by over seas terrorists.
So it does make sense to increase the budget to tackle the source of the problem.
So i get the shift in policy mentality etc.

Maybe if we didn't have Muslims in the news attacking people the domestics wouldn't be getting the idea to join their organization and do local attacks ?

All i know is running around trying to demonize a nation and killing innocent people is not going to accomplish anything but.. an attack back in response.
Which is what the Trump'ers want to shift towards.
A new policy in which they eradicate them.. instead of simply getting them to move from place to place.

Oh and how to not get stabbed ?
Sorry i missed that part LOL

That's kind of the point. In all the anti Islam threads, there is a rush to generalization, the assumption that because individual adherents are part of a whole, that they are representative of the whole. For example, one of my favorite asshats on here went and made a protest thread rather than actually discuss the issue without denigrating into 'alulalu jihad'. It's like, why is it when one crazy motherfucker does some crazy shit, the group he belongs to denounces it, and he's a lone actor. But in the other case, despite how much his group denounces him, it will always be the groups fault.  That double standard in thinking is either borne of racism, fear, ignorance or a combination there of.

 Mass attribution from a lone actor is like me telling you that you are crooked because you used to run a pawn shop (I remember the threads ;) ), and I've watched too many episodes of 'Pawn Stars'.

He arrived at an April 29 "free speech" march in Southeast Portland wearing a Revolutionary War flag as a cape. He carried a baseball bat. He threw Nazi salutes and shouted racial slurs in a Burger King parking lot. Twice, left-wing demonstrators grew so infuriated with his antics that Portland police officers formed a barrier to shield him.

The "alt-right" marchers even debated what to do about him. Some of them, leather-clad bikers, told him to shut up and tried to kick him out of the rally. Others seemed fine with him expressing himself: Unpopular speech was the point of the event.

On May 26, nearly a month later, Christian's hateful words allegedly turned into action.

He stands accused of murdering two men and wounding another who intervened as he harassed two teenage girls with an anti-Muslim screed on a Portland MAX train. Multiple witness accounts say he cut the throats of three men who confronted him.

Mayor Ted Wheeler has since asked for federal assistance to keep right-wing agitators from holding events scheduled in Portland. The leaders of local and national extremist groups known as the "alt-right" spent the weekend frantically trying to distance themselves from Christian, even as they refused to cancel a June 4 rally set for Terry Schrunk Plaza downtown.

No one claims him, yet he claims affiliation. So he is defined by his self affiliation. If he were a radical Islamist, he would be Muslim  because he said so, not because the Muslim plurality gave him that designation.

I want to be rich. Am I rich now?

Of course not. Just like this guy is clearly fucking insane. But why give this terrorist a pass for being a crazy head? And, why not attribute his actions to the alt right, his self affiliation?

Because that's just as fucking retarded as attributing the actions of a numbfuck terrorist in a turban to his whole religion.

Now, where this differs is another point of conversation. Hate groups like the violent alt right groups (now that we are having a serious discussion, I will plainly say all alt right isn't bad, it's an ideology like everything else.) get to operate under the guise of 'free speech'.

Imagine if a non violent group of ISIS apologists had a protest rally in Portland. I myself would travel out there to kick into some ass. We tolerate the one expression of free speech and decry the other. None of this shit should have quarter; in my opinion, that alt right extreme racism shit is just as odious as the ISIS fuck Westerners shit. Hate speech shouldnt have a platform, at least publically. It is the vehicle for radicalization..

But the truth of the matter is, statistically, if you are worried about terrorism and you are American, you have a way higher statistical chance of something like this happening to you. So I'm saying a lot of the anti Islam rhetoric is just a vehicle for people to spew racist shit. Because a real discussion on terror would include these topics, if it were comprehensive.

I guess in a way, rushing to opine that we need each much bigger stabbers to be ready for someone who wants to stab us is unwise generalization.

We need to be precise about exactly how big the knives and swords are that we need for this defensive posture.

LOLed at the chainmail.  ;D If they have a carbon fiber version, that might work, haha. If it's OK on your car, it should be OK on you.

I'm from the Philippines and I wish this is the problem we have. Certainly easier to snipe at a rampaging knife-wielding or gun-toting lonewolf than to go up mountains and through jungles hunting down terrorists in your backyard.

Yeah, I remembered you mentioned your country of origin earlier in another thread, certainly wish you all the best.

Now, I have done some personal research on the subject. Carbon fiber doesnt really provide an alternative. Why? Its quite brittle and crack under high mechanical loads, just as titanium.

Human beings didnt yet find good alternative for galvanized, carbon steel. This example from India looks quite handy.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/69/2a/db/692adb05011cc2092eb04ad8dbfc8cc7.jpg

You are certainly not getting stabbed. Unless its words. Those do hurt even through armor.

The feet look like the weak point of that system. So you still need bigger stabbers. Then you can cut his head off when he bends down to stab your toes.

There's just no substitute for big sharpies.

Looks pretty. Is that Mughal? I wonder how heavy it is. I'm thinking that it'd be somewhat lighter than a full plate armor, like those you see on European knights.

Some of the parts seem to be more chain mail. Maybe some of the attackers would adapt and start using axes.

It may look pretty, but I got two shovels from this company that would take care of this pretty.

http://www.coldsteel.com/

The way to not get stabbed is to convince the wanna be stabber that he better not even think about it.

100% correct analysis of situation

Politicians have killed these victims by creating fascist gun control legislation. They are guilty, just as if they had wielded the knives in their own hands!

Well that was what I was saying. Aside from modern weapons possibly getting through the chain parts of the armor, it wouldn't protect when the attacker decides to inflict concussion instead. I mean, It's possible to have your brain squished even if your helmet remain intact.

I guess the good thins is that axes and hammers are rather hard to hide so you can start running away when you someone carrying those.

Chainmail doesn't provide enough cover? Plate mail is too heavy?
You can always try the bear armor  ::)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hYQeYjLgDmY/UowSoijDLOI/AAAAAAAAZhs/fXzwOPernyo/s1600/caza+osos.jpg

The best way to protect against stabbing is keep your distance.
Carrying a longer stabber might be a good idea.
http://rezeda.blogin.hu/files/2016/11/vasvilla-1024x576.jpg

Tar is good too. Yes, you heard me. Black tar, good and hot. It's really sticky and it slows them down. They can't do much stabbing when they're all tarred up.

Then it's okay — don't worry about hurting anyone's feeling here — to add the feathers.

Tar and feathers, a good old way to show visitors they're trespassing in the wrong neighbourhood.

Now here's my idea if we're talking about hot stuff. Pig fat. When hot turns to a substance similar to vegetable oil. Burns good, acts like a psychological barrier to Muslim stabbers and while you're waiting you can always make some french fries. If you haven't tried fries cooked in lard you're missing out!

Are we missing something here ?.

So everyone will walk around with buckets of tar or pig fat..
Some night out  :D..

Can you imagine the whole city walking around with BUCKETS :D..

Hay maybe you hit on something ..

DECORATED BUCKETS you would sell loads ..

Why are you in London with your bucket your suppose to be in Canada .. >:(

Plus dopey your protecting the wrong specie.     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wascyuBFaak
 

I'm not sure the bucket of tar would have to be boiling hot when you carried it around. That would have some problems, since you might trip and it might spill on some child. How about tar in small buckets, ready to pop into the microwave? Catch the Islamic terrorist, and various of the local people would certainly donate their microwaves to the task of heating up the tar until it was nice and syrupy, bubbling, and ready to pour on the bad guy.

Works just as well for pig fat, or a combination of black tar and pig fat.

And the feathers don't need to be heated up, they are ready to go.

Would your police stop this?

Hay seal you better grab a microwave as well  :D :D

Don't forget to put the timer on 2 mins that should do it ..

No but people are getting killed and you want the timer on

NO but how else does we heat it up :-\..

Hay another good idea ..

Have you seen those cans you open them and get a hot drink of tea    but the can is cold to start..
How about a bucket of tar with a mix of pig fat..

So you would rip the lid off the bucket and get instant hot tar ;)..

Remember 20% for popcorn1 it was my idea  ;D

Set your crockpots full of tar to Warm.

Ok while you tar everyone and don't forget to knock on doors for the micro wave

Me and spendulus will do this  ;D     Spendulus is the one sitting down on the front porch ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzae_SqbmDE

LOLed about all the discussion about tarring. Maybe we can do something like this.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY8TgD6-7kg

Just spray them with the sticky stuff and then blast feathers on them before it dries. No burning that would lead you to receive a lawsuit. They'd be walking away pretty unharmed. Well, except for their dignity.

The less crazy ones would probably stop pursuit after they get tarred. I mean, they'll forever be immortalized online as a crazy terrorist chicken running around with a knife. Who the heck would want that.

Okay, let's go with a two part mix, cold liquid tar/pig fat and 5 minute epoxy.

This has the advantage of not requiring knocking on doors to borrow microwaves, but does result in a boatload of people looking sort of like Ghostbusters.

The wanna be terrorist, tarred and feathered, would be priceless.

You are now ..

                 THE
           TAR BUSTERS

Something strange in the neighbourhood who you gonna call TAR BUSTERS..

Ahaha, it's priceless how the thread got to funny comments about tarring. But I think this just shows how much we've given ourselves to all the "rational" way of disciplining people. That some people are livid when they found out a couple sent their teenage daughter to school wearing cheap clothes for two days to stop her bullying another girl is very telling. The girl was unharmed and having to go through that made her more compassionate and she became friends with the girl she bullied for wearing bargain clothes.

We are social creatures, might as well use that for the better. You ridicule someone for being poor or disabled, you go out for a day as that person to give you the proper perspective.

Same with terrorists. Let them know that the glory they're trying to achieve would be tainted and that their family would carry the burden of the shame for generations to come.

Ridicule hurts?

It's not the effect on the ridiculed that needs to be monitored that much. Sure some people end up with low self-esteem, or even physical harm, from bullying but many usually manage to move on.

What needs to be watched is the effect on those who ridicule. If they get used to it, it makes them less compassionate, less sympathetic with others. This is how you get CEOs stealing from their companies, bankers dragging down the country with their greed, etc. They just simply don't care about the effect of their actions on others.

You are screaming into the wind. This thread got off the rails a while back, it's easier to talk about armor than white supremacists. But dammit, the shit is funny, I'm surprised no one has posted some of the newer ballistic armour, we've been seeing a bunch of old stuff.

This is how I would protect myself from the would be alt right terrorist ;)

https://cdn.thisiswhyimbroke.com/images/halo-master-chief-costume-640x533.jpg

Obvious airsoft gun aside, if an energy sword can't pierce it, I should be fine.

Can always stick him with a plasma grenade, and run ;)

Meh, guess all that armor shit won't work so good :( unless it's explosion proof.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/florida-neo-nazi-plotted-bombings-at-nuclear-reactors-and-synagogues-prosecutors/

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A federal document filed by prosecutors this week alleges that a Florida-based neo-Nazi planned to kill civilians by planting explosives at targeted sites ranging from synagogues to power lines to nuclear reactors.

The Tampa Bay Times reports that prosecutors are alleging Tampa resident Brandon Russell had bombmaking materials at a garage adjacent to his apartment that he planned on using for the mass killing of civilians.

Officers arrested Russell after finding explosives in the garage at the same time they were investigating Russell’s roommate, Devon Arthurs, who is himself a former neo-Nazi who allegedly murdered his two other roommates after they mocked his conversion to Islam.

Imagining that armor covered with chicken feathers is funny. But yeah, really hard to avoid these incidents now. Well, I don't live in the US so I worry more about get mugged and robbed. At least those people succumb to entreaties once they got your money and landed a few hits.

I have an idea how to make tar/fat mix hot, you don't even need a microwave.

Step one, flush the stabber with a mixture from your personal anti-stabber bucket.
Step two, heat up the mixture.


https://flamethrowerplans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Flamethrower-10.jpg

Or you can use those quick warmers from military rations. They should warm it up for you on the go.

LOL. And then you showed a photo of a flamethrower.  ;D Aren't they supposed to be roasted AFTER they were turned into chickens?

I find it funny how this thread escalated into tarring. Well, it definitely made the topic seem a bit lighter coz it really is depressing.

These terrorists are concerned about making it to Heaven and collecting their 70 or so virgins, they don't care about their family, if they did, they wouldn't do the things that they do.

Have you ever fried a chicken with its feathers? ;D
I purposely did not mention the feathers in that last post. I wonder if they'd go to heaven after they were fried in pig fat. Being killed by a pig should be one of their worst nightmares. Depressing? I thought the chainmail post was pretty funny, but tar and feathers? I started literally laughing when I read that.

P.S. I remember truck drivers in France were hanging pig heads on their door knobs to discourage migrants. Press called it "migrant repellent"  :D

To be fair, the chances of getting into an automobile accident is much higher than ever being stabbed by an extremist. But I think the thought of getting stabbed and the plentiful news coverage definitely cause more terror in people when it comes to this unlikely scenario.

That said, there are some stab-proof jackets that can be purchased online for extra protection if you think you'll need it.

Who guaranteed those 70 virgins were human?

Maybe they are year old sows, female pigs.

Hungry ones.

Violence is an actual problem, but his? I think paranoia is taking over you.
You have you country/state protection and also US citizens can own weapons, so i don't think someone's following you and trying to hurt you at every time of your day.

Oh, I'm not personally scared. I'm Black. I have more chance of having a poor interaction with the cops, than succumbing to radical Islamic terror. Slightly higher chance of being domestically terrorized. You guys are kind of proving my point. We have it wrapped up in our heads that Muslims are the whole of terror (at least this subforum does). This terrorism shit is turned up across the board at this point. We got the left terrorizing folks, the right, Muslims killing Muslims, Christians, and Christians killing Muslims. It's fucking open season on the public right now, the global political climate is facilitating  a culture of violence that is seemingly escalating.

My particular, initial point was that  terror as a motive is largely dismissed if the perpetrators are White, or if the victims are non white. In the White perpetrator case, the ideological school is dismissed for the 'lone crazy' very often.

Please don't conflate my pointing out an issue with my level of personal concern. Suffice it to say I have a very high level of safety; it's why I feel comfortable discussing Politics so plainly with my actual persona. People are cute with that death threat shit nowadays, but I've never experienced anything like that personally.

But my theory will be tested very soon. A terror attack against Muslims in London just happened, same MO, a van. Let us see how the media cycle treats this, I'm curious genuinely.

I'm not being a Islamic terror apologist, far from it. I sense a push back from some of the more conservative elements in the community because of this perception. I'm more of a 'let's call a spade a spade' kind of guy. If we are going to complain about terror, shut the fuck up unless we are going to address all forms of terror. Terrorism is weaponized fear. No one cultural group has a monopoly on this. If you don't recognize this, you are employing dog whistle rhetoric. Basically, you hate a fucking Muslim but this is a societally acceptable way to discuss that dissatisfaction. That's racism, if you are going to be racist be real with the shit. Mad props to the guys here that are openly hostile to Muslims, I respect the fuck out of your honesty.


But I will say, ISIS is 'killing it', they are high on the leaderboards this round.

Head on over to the Altcoin section here..
Ok now do you have any fucking idea how many times i have been insulted and called "poor" ?
What is their punishment ?
I like to think karma.. what comes around goes around.

The wacko's think they are getting 72 virgins but in reality they are gonna burn in hell.
Or worse and more accurately.. nothing.
Because there is no heaven or hell and religion is crap for retards.

Oh and if you Tar & Feather them it will just piss them off more.

I got shot in the ass riding a bike many years ago by some punks in a small car on a highway..
It was a pellet gun but i was PISSED OFF !
I had a huge fucking knife and i pulled it out and chased them for a mile as they sped off.

About a week or two ago some little cock sucker pulled up beside me and shot me in the side of the head with a squirt gun with water.. this time i just gave them the finger (getting old i guess)

So yeah ..fuckin' with people will just piss them off more.
Moral of the story ?
There is a lot of human garbage out there.
And sometimes karma pounds their ass hard !

I was in the DMV yrs ago and some cocky asshole snatched my number / ticket while i was waiting.
He did it so fast i couldn't react.. he muttered some shit and took off with my number so he could be called ahead of me.
Problem is the dumb prick did it in front of the DMV girl..
So she looked at us both then called me up by name next.
LOL
I smiled at the fucking prick when i seen him outside the door leaving.
Karma bitch.. fuckin' Karma !  ;D

Read some good answers here. I think it all starts in our own home. We should teach the kids good manners and try to stay them away from violence. Let us be involved in their lives. In what is happening now, I think parents are too busy looking for ways how to provide good life to their family that they forgot to sit down and listen to their kids' problems. I think thats the main reason why children now a days are getting violent. No proper guidance. In other aspect, for us not to get stabbed, let us be vigilant. And let us not generalized Muslims/Islam. I'm a Christian. And i believe that not all muslims are terrorists. some of them are victims too

The stabbings were depressing, it got fun when someone mentioned chainmail and it went to tarring from that.

About pigs, Americans used to bury Muslim rebels in the Philippines wrapped in pig skin, with the mouth stuffed with pork. No wonder Muslims were sort of behaved when Americans were here.


Go look up Family Guy 72 Virgins. I cracked out loud when I first saw it.  ;D

The part about pig skin is fucking hilarious. I dont know how Phillipino people see Americans today, but I wish, that we had back those good old G.I. Joes from 1920´ around. They knew how to solve crises and fight terrorists.

"Six weeks before putting his disarmament plan into action, Pershing informed Governor-General William Cameron Forbes, who agreed with the plan. Pershing did not consult or inform his commanding officer, Major. Gen. J. Franklin Bell. On September 8, 1911, Executive Order No. 24, which ordered the disarmament, was issued. The deadline for disarmament was December 1, 1911.

Resistance to disarmament was particularly fierce in the district of Jolo and led to the Second Battle of Bud Dajo (which, while involving roughly equivalent forces as the first battle, was far less bloody causing only 12 Moro casualties, and the Battle of Bud Bagsak."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_Rebellion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_Rebellion)

When i seen this i was really hoping for a How To guide on how to not get stabbed.
Anyone have any pointers ?

My advice off hand would be don't turn your back on people.
For example keep an eye on the guy on the bus behind you.

Avoid crowded "downtown" areas where wacko's wander around glassy eyed from drugs.

Make eye contact with people to let them know you see them but don't stare too much  :D

Be ready to kick the fucking shit out of some asshole !
You never know when you might have to knock out some fucking goof bitch.
Don't be low hanging fruit !

I had a guy many years ago come at me and i defused the situation.
I absorbed his confrontation and replied back with a calm and balanced response.
I gave the guy a smoke and he sat down and had a chat with me about things.
Had my reaction been aggressive i probably would have been stabbed.

Learn how to handle people pretty much.

Don't bring your Handling People attitude to a Tar'N'Feathers Pigfight.

This is actually great idea. Could you start a thread for it? OP is just another leftist loon pushing his personal agenda through click-bait title. But thread about self-defense would have a place here. We have members from all over the world and they could share they experience with street violence.

Yes, a fucking loon I am :) Loony for the truth; I'm sorry if that's inconvenient to your worldview.  Añd you would be surprised how many people share my views, at least partially. There might be a whole platform or some shit based around it, I don't know. You would have to get off of Breitbart and the Daily Caller to hear them though.

Your name is Oburkabinladin. I don't have to say anything else ;)

You genuinely seem triggered. Is this a sensitive topic for you? :) I'm loving it like McDonalds. And yes, that self defense thread would be tits, you should start that for us. I will surely contribute :)

And Spoetniks contribution to the thread was the most genuine, and the most sane. I presented a talking point for the community to ponder on, y'all put yalls fingers in your ears and tried your best to derail this. I see I hit home, and that's what I like to see. And I also see the mature members of the community. I'm a running fucking joke most days, I'm a laughing type of dude, but I know comedy as deflection when I see it.

And I'm still getting paid for this shit.
 I'm here all night folks :)

I am not triggered, I couldnt care less about another "unique snowflake", who feels threatened by political opposition. Especially, in the United States, half a planet away from my household.

I responded to Spoetnik, who actually made a post worth a reading, about topic, that is important for a lot of folk around the world. Not you, snowflake. But a lot of people, who cant take security of their families for granted.