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Title: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Thatstinks on June 09, 2017, 10:54:32 PM
Nebraska

Ill just leave that there, I had a hunch, did some research now have a dilemma.

If the forum owner Theymos or whoever wishes to confirm or deny said State is part of the chain via PM that would be nice but I have learned when tracking a person you cannot find, find who is close to him and you will find him.

This isn't "crazy" talk or a conspiracy, a few holes were left open to discover. And before anyone says keep it a secret, I hear you thus my dilemma.



Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: eternalgloom on June 09, 2017, 11:03:37 PM
If you don't want to elaborate any further on how you came to this conclusion, then it seems like this is just another conspiracy.
Show us your research and then we can comment on it, but making blank statements like this, doesn't really make anyone believe you're telling the truth here.

I actually have some first hand experience with people being affected by making these 'being Satoshi' accusations.
Right after the suicide of a good friend of mine, Len Sassaman, his widdow was being bombarded with pretty rude questions of him being Satoshi right after his death.
After that, all these threads about finding out who Satoshi is just feel really bad and invasive.

This doesn't really have to do with what you said in your post, I'm just saying that it might not be a good idea to go on a witchhunt to find the real Satoshi.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Thatstinks on June 09, 2017, 11:10:26 PM
I understand, let me say more, I have found a person (maybe Satoshi maybe not) but what I do know 110% is THEY know Satoshi at the least, they have to even if they denied being Satoshi. Time lines (such as phone disconnection the same time Satoshi leaves for example there is more), and 2 small bread crumbs were left in their actions. To add to it prior to Bitcoin they dabbled with digital currency leading up to it.

This person CANNOT be easily tracked down, I had a breakthrough today and now have a dilemma.

By just stating Nebraska I am kind of hoping to get confirmation from them and honestly will just leave it there. If I post this here they will see it and avoids me bothering them personally as I want to respect their privacy.

Not sure I can say more at this time.



Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: andrei56 on June 10, 2017, 02:21:00 AM
At this point, finding satoshi is irrelevant, the genie is out of the lamp and it is impossible to put it back, the only one that cares about not being discovered is satoshi since we do not know if in the future governments could accuse him of aiding criminals.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Farcoin12 on June 10, 2017, 03:27:19 AM
What would finding Satoshi or one of his friends achieve for our Bitcoin community? Absolutely nothing. The identity of satoshi is irrelevant.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: MingLee on June 10, 2017, 03:37:19 AM
What would finding Satoshi or one of his friends achieve for our Bitcoin community? Absolutely nothing. The identity of satoshi is irrelevant.
He obviously no longer wants to be a part of the project and prefers his privacy, I guess people just refuse to understand this.
I'm surprised that there aren't more people that understand this. Satoshi disappeared before the community really took off, and if he isn't back yet then there is no reason for people to try and find him, still, considering it is incredibly likely he doesn't want to be found.
I'd love to meet the guy, but a lot of people should respect his desire to not be found.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Thatstinks on June 10, 2017, 03:45:40 AM
I see, well, I guess Ill keep it to myself, nothing good by revealing what I know any ways, right?

Son of a gun, I cannot even share this with friends or family, do you guys really think he would be 100% against someone finding him or at the least naming him/friends?

What we all forget in the myth is it was still a person, a person who needs to apply for, register for and use everyday things that require ID, no one is a ghost, no one. His name IS recorded, maybe not where everyone can see it but it is. I would imagine if anyone he would understand this. By name I do not mean Satoshi btw ;)

But based on what I have seen he was NOT Satoshi before deciding to go ghost and as with any human, is not perfect.



Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: pooya87 on June 10, 2017, 03:47:01 AM
i get all the enthusiasm to find Satoshi Nakamoto and find out who he/she/they is (are) but you know at some point it starts turning into an invasion of privacy!
that's just my opinion but i say Satoshi wanted to stay anonymous and wants to do otherwise it is his choice not ours. going out of our way to find out about someone who clearly wants to protect his privacy doesn't sound so right.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: btc_angela on June 10, 2017, 03:51:33 AM
Why don't we just leave it as it is. If he really wants to surface, he should have done it years ago. I think he really wants to remain anonymous and look at his invention from the outside. What benefits do you think finding him now? Right. Nothing. Nada. So let the man enjoy his freedom (if he is still alive) now, and let us, WE enjoy his invention.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Thatstinks on June 10, 2017, 03:53:10 AM
I see, well, I guess Ill keep it to myself, nothing good by revealing what I know any ways, right?

Son of a gun, I cannot even share this with friends or family, do you guys really think he would be 100% against someone finding him or at the least naming him/friends?

What we all forget in the myth is it was still a person, a person who needs to apply for, register for and use everyday things that require ID, no one is a ghost, no one. His name IS recorded, maybe not where everyone can see it but it is. I would imagine if anyone he would understand this.


If you are tracking a person actually named Satoshi Nakamoto, it isn't him TIME magazine already tried this years ago.

I know, in fact that name Satoshi had NOTHING to do with what I first noticed, researched, confirmed and concluded. In fact Japan played zero factor for me. Remember I saw a pattern and connected dots, lots of dots that most did not even focus on who he is/was.
Then there was the other stuff but alas I am in a dilemma.

Will think hard about this for 24-48 hrs. May even make one more call or wait for a call, he/they see this thread, balls in their court.

To summarize I know about NE, I know this name (Satoshi) was not the only name used that did not "belong to you", important letter is "J" and hint at the NOW/THEN "Democracy" that is all. I KNOW I am very close and if uncomforting they will let me know.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Zadicar on June 10, 2017, 03:56:19 AM
I see, well, I guess Ill keep it to myself, nothing good by revealing what I know any ways, right?

Son of a gun, I cannot even share this with friends or family, do you guys really think he would be 100% against someone finding him or at the least naming him/friends?

What we all forget in the myth is it was still a person, a person who needs to apply for, register for and use everyday things that require ID, no one is a ghost, no one. His name IS recorded, maybe not where everyone can see it but it is. I would imagine if anyone he would understand this.


If you are tracking a person actually named Satoshi Nakamoto, it isn't him TIME magazine already tried this years ago.
Yes they do tracked any information of that Satoshi Nakamoto but all of them failed which we can conclude that this is not his true identity.Hes still living on the shadows and we didnt still see a glimpse of him and this thing would really uncovered unless if he decide to come out but its not possible in my own view because there are lots of questions to be asked and possible he would really be sued up on investing bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: digaran on June 10, 2017, 05:31:17 AM
I want to have either one of his left fingers or left ball for my collection if by any chance you could find him. you really should take the hint when theymos proposed to spend Satoshi's coins, he knew the father of crypto is no longer with us, rip.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Last of the V8s on June 10, 2017, 09:54:57 AM
I do hope your thinking skills have improved since you wrote this:

From what I recall from the pyramid the vast majority of all BTC is held by a tiny group. This fact makes bitcoin use a joke, while the idea of BTC is good the vast amounts held by small numbers is a huge flaw.

The only way to get it worth using world wide by billions is a huge unrealistic price increase. That in turn makes those few at the top uber wealthy. If someone can find the pyramid it would be nice showing it.

It's sad but ultimately Satoshi must return and distribute all his coin or he is no better than the world rulers we have now.

So ranking holders is laughable because the vast amounts at the top are all that matter.

Not updated but you get the idea why a small group could mean BTC is nothing but a Ponzi that will end harshly one day.

http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1009


You would do well to learn from the great writer and engineer Stanislav Datskovskiy.

I wonder now with this thread of yours if you are a liar, or worse, a socialist.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: haroldtee on June 10, 2017, 10:08:30 AM
Why the whole obsession of trying to uncover satoshi's identity? What is the difference that would make anyway? OP, people like you should leave this man alone and respect his decisions. Kindly find something else to do unless there is something you are not telling us. Infact, it helps the community a lot as we don't have a clue who he is. Maybe he is reading this post now as a guest, who cares?


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: FA wings on June 10, 2017, 11:43:15 AM
Why are you obsessed with finding Satoshi ???
Please respect the privacy
This man created bitcoin!


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Kprawn on June 10, 2017, 11:55:49 AM
Satoshi is global, because we are all Satoshi now.  ;D .... The hunt for Satoshi should stop, because there is nothing to be gained to identify him

or her or them.  ::) Yes, you would solve a mystery, but you will be the villain in the story. Bitcoin fanatics will hunt you down and kick the shit

out of you, if something happens to the real Satoshi. { arrested, murdered, abducted assaulted ....} Bad things might happen to Satoshi, once

his real identity is revealed.  >:(


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Jeger.Kiting on June 10, 2017, 12:03:07 PM
I do not think it is necessary to do something that makes you complicated to know or reveal who actually satoshi, because only a fool wants to know all about it, I just want to suggest that you focus on what you already have rather than busy figuring out who it is Satoshi.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: soul-impact on June 10, 2017, 12:08:20 PM
I do not think it is necessary to do something that makes you complicated to know or reveal who actually satoshi, because only a fool wants to know all about it, I just want to suggest that you focus on what you already have rather than busy figuring out who it is Satoshi.

I think the government does not need to learn about Satoshi, because in fact, it's just a name that represents bitcoin, we can not know who or who it is. In addition, we can all use bitcoin and not care about its origin, the government too, they can accept bitcoin and no matter who Satoshi is.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Marma Kalari on June 10, 2017, 12:53:56 PM
Unless you provide any proof of what you are talking about,it is just a conspiracy,have seen many people trying many things and are not successful yet and for me it is good to know the real genius behind bitcoin as he could find a solution for the scaling issues we are having right now.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Thatstinks on June 10, 2017, 03:49:10 PM
I do hope your thinking skills have improved since you wrote this:

From what I recall from the pyramid the vast majority of all BTC is held by a tiny group. This fact makes bitcoin use a joke, while the idea of BTC is good the vast amounts held by small numbers is a huge flaw.

The only way to get it worth using world wide by billions is a huge unrealistic price increase. That in turn makes those few at the top uber wealthy. If someone can find the pyramid it would be nice showing it.

It's sad but ultimately Satoshi must return and distribute all his coin or he is no better than the world rulers we have now.

So ranking holders is laughable because the vast amounts at the top are all that matter.

Not updated but you get the idea why a small group could mean BTC is nothing but a Ponzi that will end harshly one day.

http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1009


You would do well to learn from the great writer and engineer Stanislav Datskovskiy.

I wonder now with this thread of yours if you are a liar, or worse, a socialist.


Some of my views the last year plus have changed, correct. Some of my reasoning like distribution remain correct and being anti establishment would mean Satoshi distribute or donate his coins, my belief in that is firm only because of the communities foundation of anti establishment (banking). Not because I am a socialist, far from it but because of what Bitcoin supposedly stands for or used to stand for. Will it end harshly, maybe yes maybe no, time will tell but I am not the only one who feels distribution in some form will help, not hurt.

Can I now rule out ponzi, yes and no, always a chance it didn't start out that way of course. We are all human and as humans on whatever intellectual scale we sit we are subject to greed.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: andrei56 on June 17, 2017, 01:28:02 AM
Satoshi is global, because we are all Satoshi now.  ;D .... The hunt for Satoshi should stop, because there is nothing to be gained to identify him

or her or them.  ::) Yes, you would solve a mystery, but you will be the villain in the story. Bitcoin fanatics will hunt you down and kick the shit

out of you, if something happens to the real Satoshi. { arrested, murdered, abducted assaulted ....} Bad things might happen to Satoshi, once

his real identity is revealed.  >:(
Those that are hunting satoshi do so in an effort to become famous themselves, they say that the one that finds satoshi will win a Pulitzer and to be honest I think they are right, so this is not about solving a mystery or anything like that this is about money and fame.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: Seansky on June 17, 2017, 01:47:58 AM
Those that are hunting satoshi do so in an effort to become famous themselves, they say that the one that fins satoshi will win a Pulitzer and to be honest I think they are right, so this is not about solving a mystery or anything like that this is about money and fame.
If that's the case they are better off not finding satoshi at all because if all had known his/her/they're real identity, it will not just remove his/her/they're privacy but also it will put the real satoshi to harm's way. They don't care about satoshi though so I think it's better off if satoshi will be anonymous forever, the important thing for me is that he brought bitcoin to us, a crypto currency to use on online transactions and a way to pay others online.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: squatz1 on June 17, 2017, 07:57:52 PM
Satoshi is a satoshi that will probably continue to be a mystery in bitcoin
I do not think it is necessary to disclose... ;D

Well you do have to give it to some people on this forum, curiosity is going to get the best of you on something like this which is so mysterious to the point that we HAVE ZERO information about the person that wrote all the code to this wonderful thing that's now turned into a Multi-BILLION dollar currency. Not saying it's gotten tons of people to accept it like Satoshi probably wanted, but we've gone ways since the creation of Bitcoin with innovation from people who accept Bitcoin and such.

Though, just leave Satoshi be and let him live his life. He'll always be keeping tabs on all of us though, so we do know that at least.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: khufuking on June 17, 2017, 08:02:13 PM
What would finding Satoshi or one of his friends achieve for our Bitcoin community? Absolutely nothing. The identity of satoshi is irrelevant.
He obviously no longer wants to be a part of the project and prefers his privacy, I guess people just refuse to understand this.
Hmm I really doubt that is true about the part (he is no longer wants to be part of the project ) . On the other hand hi is definitely want to stay

anonymous . I think staying anonymous is not just good for him but for the whole project too .


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: andrei56 on June 22, 2017, 03:47:48 AM
Those that are hunting satoshi do so in an effort to become famous themselves, they say that the one that fins satoshi will win a Pulitzer and to be honest I think they are right, so this is not about solving a mystery or anything like that this is about money and fame.
If that's the case they are better off not finding satoshi at all because if all had known his/her/they're real identity, it will not just remove his/her/they're privacy but also it will put the real satoshi to harm's way. They don't care about satoshi though so I think it's better off if satoshi will be anonymous forever, the important thing for me is that he brought bitcoin to us, a crypto currency to use on online transactions and a way to pay others online.
That is what I think as well, since they do not care about the well being of satoshi and the possible consequences in his life like the lose of anonymity and even penal charges, but I think satoshi did a good enough job at hiding from anyone that may try to find him.


Title: Re: Is this State important to uncovering Satoshi
Post by: DOGE12321 on June 22, 2017, 03:58:41 AM
From where did Nebraska come from? How did you conclude he lives in Nebraska? Even I could say any state in America, but it doesn't prove that Satoshi Nakamoto resides there. You have no evidence.

Look at this logically. An unknown genius came up with the philosophy of decentralisation, created an entire currency's code, stuffed into the hand of the early developers and went off the scene. He or she hasn't come back for nearly a decade, even after Bitcoin's recent price hype. I think that says something. Maybe we shouldn't focus on finding Nakamoto's identity, but rather on the further development of Bitcoin.