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Title: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: vince212 on June 13, 2017, 08:39:41 AM
Hi guys since it is almost impossible to have amd cards for a mining rig i am left with 1060 or 1070?

Which would be a better buy? 6 1060 or 3 1070 and 1 1060 rig?

I know the hashrates but what i dont know are the power consumption of both cards. So i cant really tell which is better.
Electricity in my country costs .22usd per kwh.

Which is a better buy thanks?


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: cptfisher on June 13, 2017, 09:16:07 AM
if you aim to buy to mine eth 1050 or 1060 are the better as hashrates scales good with the price spent  and power consumption

eg :1 1050 ti hashes 14 - 16 mh/s power 30-50w

1 1060 3gb costs 50% more but hashes also 50% more and consumes also 50% more ( 19 mhs 60w  22 mhs 70 w 85w 23- 24 mhs)



1070 will has at aroun 28 but will cost 2x 1060 and will consume also  30  - 50% more


so for eth better smaller cards from nvidia


for other algos then all scales pretty the same so you can chose if you want density for a premium or if you want lot of rig to administer and pay a lil less


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Emoclaw on June 13, 2017, 09:17:27 AM

for other algos then all scales pretty the same so you can chose if you want density for a premium or if you want lot of rig to administer and pay a lil less
If you have more rigs, that means you're paying for more motherboards, CPUs, RAMs, racks and power supplies.
It might be more cost-effective to get more expensive cards.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: vince212 on June 13, 2017, 09:25:07 AM
if you aim to buy to mine eth 1050 or 1060 are the better as hashrates scales good with the price spent  and power consumption

eg :1 1050 ti hashes 14 - 16 mh/s power 30-50w

1 1060 3gb costs 50% more but hashes also 50% more and consumes also 50% more ( 19 mhs 60w  22 mhs 70 w 85w 23- 24 mhs)



1070 will has at aroun 28 but will cost 2x 1060 and will consume also  30  - 50% more


so for eth better smaller cards from nvidia


for other algos then all scales pretty the same so you can chose if you want density for a premium or if you want lot of rig to administer and pay a lil less

right now im not considering the 1050ti because some say it can only do 100 sols on zec miners. Zec will be my alternative once eth goes POS


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: vince212 on June 13, 2017, 09:25:55 AM

for other algos then all scales pretty the same so you can chose if you want density for a premium or if you want lot of rig to administer and pay a lil less
If you have more rigs, that means you're paying for more motherboards, CPUs, RAMs, racks and power supplies.
It might be more cost-effective to get more expensive cards.

yep so now im stock with 6 1060s or 3 1070 plus 1 1060 since it will cost the same here  in my country


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: nu1mlock on June 13, 2017, 09:28:56 AM
Get 6x 1080 Ti for best density and no need for extra components. That's what I ordered for six rigs.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: vince212 on June 13, 2017, 09:31:47 AM
Get 6x 1080 Ti for best density and no need for extra components. That's what I ordered for six rigs.

hmmm i cant. im waiting for the restock of rx 570 or 580 cards.
but right now i cant resist to add a mining rig since eth is nearing 400 dollars.

so for the mean time im going to go for 1060 or 1070s


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Vaccinus on June 13, 2017, 09:51:50 AM
don't buy cheap card that hash low 1060 is not good now, buy expensive oen that have higher density and hashrate because the profit is very high roi is fast

Get 6x 1080 Ti for best density and no need for extra components. That's what I ordered for six rigs.

how do you power that with dual psu or single 1500watt? is that enough?


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: vince212 on June 13, 2017, 09:55:19 AM
don't buy cheap card that hash low 1060 is not good now, buy expensive oen that have higher density and hashrate because the profit is very high roi is fast

but a 6x 1060 mining rig will outhash 3x 1070 and 1x 1060 rig.

im just concerned with power draw since it might change which rig will earn higher


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: agente on June 13, 2017, 09:59:56 AM
btw gtx 1050ti is 14h/s in eth with 70/75w not 50


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: cptfisher on June 13, 2017, 10:05:06 AM

for other algos then all scales pretty the same so you can chose if you want density for a premium or if you want lot of rig to administer and pay a lil less
If you have more rigs, that means you're paying for more motherboards, CPUs, RAMs, racks and power supplies.
It might be more cost-effective to get more expensive cards.

the price for cpu ram and motherboard and rack is very minimal. and with lesser cards you will save a lot on psu....   doesnt matter what careds you buy up to  the 1070  the price of the system (including risers psu and rack) will be roughly 25 - 33 % the cost of the cards :

eg

cpu ram mobo risers  for 1060 to 1050ti will be roughly 115 EUR  for a 5 gpu system

psu 89 eur (750w 80+ gold)

for 1070 you will need much more juice so psu alone will cost roughly the double if not triple.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: vince212 on June 13, 2017, 10:28:47 AM

for other algos then all scales pretty the same so you can chose if you want density for a premium or if you want lot of rig to administer and pay a lil less
If you have more rigs, that means you're paying for more motherboards, CPUs, RAMs, racks and power supplies.
It might be more cost-effective to get more expensive cards.

the price for cpu ram and motherboard and rack is very minimal. and with lesser cards you will save a lot on psu....   doesnt matter what careds you buy up to  the 1070  the price of the system (including risers psu and rack) will be roughly 25 - 33 % the cost of the cards :

eg

cpu ram mobo risers  for 1060 to 1050ti will be roughly 115 EUR  for a 5 gpu system

psu 89 eur (750w 80+ gold)

for 1070 you will need much more juice so psu alone will cost roughly the double if not triple.

Dang it now it is hard to choose. If a 1050ti uses 75w i can mine 6x on a 650w. Wonder how much watts a 1060 consumes


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: rogeriosmorais on June 13, 2017, 10:33:47 AM
I'm thinking about buying 6x 1070 MINI. Does anyone know if these cards are good for mining? I'm worried about the cooling system and overclocking capabilities.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Nokia555 on June 13, 2017, 10:35:52 AM
Hi,

MSI GTX1060 6GB uses around 71W. (DGB Skein speed: 327.92 Mh/s) http://mylifegadgets.com/GTX10606GB


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: johnnymark_ on June 13, 2017, 10:39:07 AM
Hi,

MSI GTX1060 6GB uses around 71W. (DGB Skein speed: 327.92 Mh/s) http://mylifegadgets.com/GTX10606GB

What can you dual mine with a single GTX 1070?


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: un4given on June 13, 2017, 10:39:25 AM
I'm thinking about buying 6x 1070 MINI. Does anyone know if these cards are good for mining? I'm worried about the cooling system and overclocking capabilities.
don't worry. they are totally ok if you supply enough fresh air form them. just put a ventilator/fan in front of the rig and let it blow through.
i have 6x Gigabyte Mini ITX OC in a closed chasis and they r doing fine with 65-70 degrees celsius :P


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: honestis.network on June 13, 2017, 10:44:06 AM
You can always invest in some special cooling for better results.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: nu1mlock on June 13, 2017, 02:47:17 PM
don't buy cheap card that hash low 1060 is not good now, buy expensive oen that have higher density and hashrate because the profit is very high roi is fast

Get 6x 1080 Ti for best density and no need for extra components. That's what I ordered for six rigs.

how do you power that with dual psu or single 1500watt? is that enough?
1500W would probably be fine if you under volt them but I don't really care about power so I'll be overclocking them and use a separate 2400W server PSU (2400W is way too much but they're not that expensive anyway).


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: nu1mlock on June 14, 2017, 05:24:28 AM
don't buy cheap card that hash low 1060 is not good now, buy expensive oen that have higher density and hashrate because the profit is very high roi is fast

Get 6x 1080 Ti for best density and no need for extra components. That's what I ordered for six rigs.

how do you power that with dual psu or single 1500watt? is that enough?
1500W would probably be fine if you under volt them but I don't really care about power so I'll be overclocking them and use a separate 2400W server PSU (2400W is way too much but they're not that expensive anyway).
Where do you get those server PSUs? I have never heard of using that for GPU mining.
http://www.parallelminer.com/product-category/power-supply-kit/
You still need a regular PSU to power the motherboard, CPU etc though.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: archangel_80 on August 08, 2017, 04:05:54 PM
Hi guys since it is almost impossible to have amd cards for a mining rig i am left with 1060 or 1070?
Which would be a better buy? 6 1060 or 3 1070 and 1 1060 rig?

I have both 1070's and 1060's in separate rigs mining Ether, and here are my settings and results with stable 24/7 mining:

GTX 1060 6GB
No chassi fully open build.
NVIDIA driver 382.05
MSI Afterburner power limit 60%, core clock +150, memory clock +750.
With Claymore miner 9.7, the hashrate is 20-21 MH/s and power draw is 103 watt. Temperature at 64 degrees celcius. Fan speed at around 40% (pretty silent).
Efficiency level 103/20 = 5,15 W/MH

GTX 1070 8GB
In a big tower chassi.
NVIDIA driver 382.53
MSI Afterburner power limit 60%, core clock +150, memory clock +700.
With Claymore miner 9.7, the hashrate is 29-31 MH/s and power draw is 130 watt. Temperature at 66 degrees celcius. Fan speed at around 44% (fairly silent but audible in my room).
Efficiency level 130/30 = 4,33 W/MH

So... depending on how fast you want ROI, your budget, watt prices and other factors such as power supply unit(s) needed, wife complaining about noice level and heat etc ;D, you need to decide what you think suits you best.

Personally, I really like the 1070 cards for their power/MH efficiency level and low noice. I've been able to buy my 1070 cards for around 490 USD on second hand markets (unused retail price is 650 USD in my country).

Hope this post helps. Cheers and good luck!
/Arch

PS. I previously had GTX 970's and I got an efficiency level around 7 W/MH (17-19MH/s).


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: xdeltax on August 08, 2017, 05:58:37 PM
use https://www.nicehash.com/?p=calc to compare 1050 1060 and 1070. they show you power and hashrate. for me the 1060 3gb was the best choise.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Ayers on August 08, 2017, 07:20:11 PM
i believe that the 1080ti is the better deal here, the 1060 is very poor in performance, and it's also overpriced like the other, but the 1080ti is less overpriced compared to the other, because the price was already high, before the gpu shortage, i would just buy two 1080ti for now, versus 6 x 1060


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Bones972 on August 08, 2017, 07:28:54 PM
if you aim to buy to mine eth 1050 or 1060 are the better as hashrates scales good with the price spent  and power consumption

eg :1 1050 ti hashes 14 - 16 mh/s power 30-50w

1 1060 3gb costs 50% more but hashes also 50% more and consumes also 50% more ( 19 mhs 60w  22 mhs 70 w 85w 23- 24 mhs)



1070 will has at aroun 28 but will cost 2x 1060 and will consume also  30  - 50% more


so for eth better smaller cards from nvidia


for other algos then all scales pretty the same so you can chose if you want density for a premium or if you want lot of rig to administer and pay a lil less

right now im not considering the 1050ti because some say it can only do 100 sols on zec miners. Zec will be my alternative once eth goes POS

I have 2 1050ti's running ZEC right now each getting 158-161 Sol/s

They are in my rig named Leoben (for some reason the cards are not indexed properly in the display but you will see what I mean)
https://minerstat.com/public/Bones.html

Love those little cards.  No power connection needed only fed power through the motherboard.  I will probably pick a few more up and toss them into open spots I have on some of my rigs with extra power available.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: antantti on August 08, 2017, 07:48:45 PM
I have 2 1050ti's running

No power connection needed only fed power through the motherboard.

I burned my 12V pins on motherboard atx-connector with two 750ti (without pcie power connectors) when testing them back in 2014, it was an overkill rig which went alive through btc and scrypt mining and then failed on 2x35 watts cards...




Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: xdeltax on August 09, 2017, 10:44:35 AM
i believe that the 1080ti is the better deal here, the 1060 is very poor in performance, and it's also overpriced like the other, but the 1080ti is less overpriced compared to the other, because the price was already high, before the gpu shortage, i would just buy two 1080ti for now, versus 6 x 1060

No way.

1080ti compared to 1060 3GB is just 80% more Hashpower but 250% "more Price" and 150% more power consumption.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Ayers on August 09, 2017, 02:58:40 PM
i believe that the 1080ti is the better deal here, the 1060 is very poor in performance, and it's also overpriced like the other, but the 1080ti is less overpriced compared to the other, because the price was already high, before the gpu shortage, i would just buy two 1080ti for now, versus 6 x 1060

No way.

1080ti compared to 1060 3GB is just 80% more Hashpower but 250% "more Price" and 150% more power consumption.


lol no it's not 80% more hash where you get that? a 1080ti is 80% more faster than a 1070 not 1060, maybe you are confusing with the 1080s


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: xdeltax on August 09, 2017, 06:38:06 PM
lol no it's not 80% more hash where you get that? a 1080ti is 80% more faster than a 1070 not 1060, maybe you are confusing with the 1080s

i used 2 recources for the comparsion:

whattomine.com
 1060 - Ethhash: 21.3 Mh/s
 1070 - Ethhash: 30.0 Mh/s
 1080Ti - Ethhash: 35.0 Mh/s

https://www.nicehash.com/?p=calc
 1060 - DaggerHashimoto: 20.13 MH/s
 1070 - DaggerHashimoto: 28.69 MH/s
 1080Ti - DaggerHashimoto: 35.00 MH/s


are both pages wong with the Ti?
for my 30 1060 the result is nearly as stated there.




Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Bones972 on August 10, 2017, 01:02:08 AM
I have 2 1050ti's running

No power connection needed only fed power through the motherboard.

I burned my 12V pins on motherboard atx-connector with two 750ti (without pcie power connectors) when testing them back in 2014, it was an overkill rig which went alive through btc and scrypt mining and then failed on 2x35 watts cards...




Hmmm... I have them on Asrock 970 performance Mobo with an additional connection to power the PCI's.  They have been running around 60 watts each for several months with no issue.  I also have 2x 1060's on risers (connected to the PSU) with no issues from the mother board.  Its actually one of my most stable platforms because I don't really tweak the settings.  I am not sure what the 750ti's were pulling through the Mobo but I guess I will have to keep an eye on it. 


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: antantti on August 10, 2017, 01:15:46 AM
Hmmm... I have them on Asrock 970 performance Mobo with an additional connection to power the PCI's.  

Additional power is the key here.

They have been running around 60 watts each for several months with no issue.  I also have 2x 1060's on risers (connected to the PSU) with no issues from the mother board.  Its actually one of my most stable platforms because I don't really tweak the settings.  I am not sure what the 750ti's were pulling through the Mobo but I guess I will have to keep an eye on it.  

295x2 (500w card) 10 watts through mobo, 750ti (35w card) 35 watts through mobo (no pcie power connector model). So you never know.



Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Ayers on August 11, 2017, 05:47:59 AM
lol no it's not 80% more hash where you get that? a 1080ti is 80% more faster than a 1070 not 1060, maybe you are confusing with the 1080s

i used 2 recources for the comparsion:

whattomine.com
 1060 - Ethhash: 21.3 Mh/s
 1070 - Ethhash: 30.0 Mh/s
 1080Ti - Ethhash: 35.0 Mh/s

https://www.nicehash.com/?p=calc
 1060 - DaggerHashimoto: 20.13 MH/s
 1070 - DaggerHashimoto: 28.69 MH/s
 1080Ti - DaggerHashimoto: 35.00 MH/s


are both pages wong with the Ti?
for my 30 1060 the result is nearly as stated there.




comparing the gpu on the worst algo for nvidia is bad, because the 1080ti and 1080 use gddrx5, which are bad on dagger, comapre it on skein or blake2s or any other algo


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: xdeltax on August 11, 2017, 10:54:06 AM
comparing the gpu on the worst algo for nvidia is bad, because the 1080ti and 1080 use gddrx5, which are bad on dagger, comapre it on skein or blake2s or any other algo

you are right. but there is actually no profitable blake coin to mine.

if profit of blake-coin is half to equihash or ethash i have no benefit from the better handling of the faster card.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: frazier34567 on August 11, 2017, 04:22:03 PM
Depends on how long you want to mine with the cards.  If you are playing the long game until the cards die (all with powered risers), then 1050 ti.  If you are looking at 3 years worth of mining then trying to sell 1070s. If you are looking at getting your ROI back then selling them to upgrade cards then 1060 (I am bias to 6gb because of better perceived resale value.) 

I have 8 750 ti cards running on two rigs been running since April 2014 only one bad card with warranty exchange during that time.  The 1-EVGA 1070 SC and 1-1070 SC2 have had warranty replacements already. 


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Ayers on August 13, 2017, 09:40:38 AM
comparing the gpu on the worst algo for nvidia is bad, because the 1080ti and 1080 use gddrx5, which are bad on dagger, comapre it on skein or blake2s or any other algo

you are right. but there is actually no profitable blake coin to mine.

if profit of blake-coin is half to equihash or ethash i have no benefit from the better handling of the faster card.

compare it on skunk, it's very hot algo now, or equihash also is not that bad, the 1080 ti is 2.5 times faster than a 1060


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: jmigdlc99 on August 13, 2017, 09:54:35 AM
I would go for the 1070 rig. When ETH disables POW mining, the 1060's card architecture will not allow you to mine certain algorithms which the 1070 can do.

Its future proof and you will spend less on electricity and other computer parts.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: jimmykl on August 13, 2017, 12:23:56 PM
I would go for the 1070 rig. When ETH disables POW mining, the 1060's card architecture will not allow you to mine certain algorithms which the 1070 can do.

Its future proof and you will spend less on electricity and other computer parts.

Which algorithms does that apply to? I know 3GB 1060s won't be able to mine any DAG which tops 3GB but afaik there's nothing about the 1060's card architecture which will stops it mining anything a 1070 can...


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: crazyer on August 13, 2017, 04:11:24 PM
This is a pretty good miner. But now you should use specialized miners. These machines are being sold a lot in China.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: fittsy on August 14, 2017, 10:36:40 PM

for other algos then all scales pretty the same so you can chose if you want density for a premium or if you want lot of rig to administer and pay a lil less
If you have more rigs, that means you're paying for more motherboards, CPUs, RAMs, racks and power supplies.
It might be more cost-effective to get more expensive cards.

Nope. Quite the opposite actually if you know what you're doing.

You use a used PC that comes with a cpu, ram, mobo, power supply. Then one medium size power supply for your GPUs.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Zhexy on August 18, 2017, 07:11:06 AM
I also need advice. I already have 2x 3 1080 ti.  I can get 1080 ti for 700euro, and 1060 6gb for 275€. I plan to mine eth until difficult dont jump,  then maybe ubiq or something. 1080 ti for zcash or something. What is better 1070 8gb 420€ or 1060 6gb 275€. I think 6 1060 6gb with 750w psu is rly good deal.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: kjs on August 18, 2017, 08:26:52 AM
http://www.parallelminer.com/product-category/power-supply-kit/
You still need a regular PSU to power the motherboard, CPU etc though.

Well, actually you can use a PicoPSU to power the motherboard and CPU.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: darthmaul on August 18, 2017, 08:53:17 AM
The thing is your hashrate will change with higher models and they will become more. But they will also cost you more money for that. I think it will balance thr final cost anyway.

So better go for 1070 model as you will face more difficulty in the near future meaning you have to be one step ahead of everyone. Better go for 1070 in anyway the equation will balance due to cost of hardware and consumption of energy.

There is one more thing your electricity costs are way high than US. Its twice than the US country and i hope you have calculated the ROI properly. I guess you should definitely go for 1070 model only.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: xdeltax on August 18, 2017, 08:06:59 PM
I also need advice. I already have 2x 3 1080 ti.  I can get 1080 ti for 700euro, and 1060 6gb for 275€. I plan to mine eth until difficult dont jump,  then maybe ubiq or something. 1080 ti for zcash or something. What is better 1070 8gb 420€ or 1060 6gb 275€. I think 6 1060 6gb with 750w psu is rly good deal.

why the 1060 6gb? good for gaming, but no use for crypto. the 3gb version is under 200.

only 750w (peak) for six 1060 did not work (for me). a 750W psu will give you just 750W * 85 - 92% = ca. 650 - 700W (max).
but each 1060 takes 100 W and the CPU / MB another 120 W. you should not run 24/7 on max.

i use 2 psu (1 x 550W and 1 x 650 or 750W) for each mining rig with 6 x 1060 3gb. i found this solution more stable than 1 x 1000 W psu


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: totko on August 18, 2017, 08:18:18 PM
I think bigger is better for eth 1060 but for everything else 1080 ti ! Yes it consumes  a lot of power but you have less cards and more hashing power!
in your case i would go for 6x 1060


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: nsummy on August 18, 2017, 09:17:52 PM
The part everyone is forgetting is availability.  You can currently get a 1060 6 GB card for under $300.  The cheapest 1070 you will find is $420+ and up to the point where its almost the same price as a 1080.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: erdubya on August 18, 2017, 10:02:43 PM
If you have more rigs, that means you're paying for more motherboards, CPUs, RAMs, racks and power supplies.
It might be more cost-effective to get more expensive cards.

Actually you can estimate about $750 per rig for non-GPU Equipment.
MB, PSU, CPU, RAM, SSD (Optional), Risers, Misc (wood and aluminum for frame, etc)

Not counting resale value, 1060 is still a better buy than 1070 and about a 10% better ROI give or take.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Supercoiner111 on August 18, 2017, 10:18:44 PM
If you are looking for a 2 yr GPU with good resell value 1070 would be the best option....


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Zhexy on August 19, 2017, 12:17:51 AM
Like i said. i have rly cheap electricity. rly rly cheap. i can get any gpu for good price.

1060 6gb 3 coolers    275e
1070 8gb                  around 420e
1080 ti                     around 710e
motherboard 70-90
cpu 40
ram 25-30

psu 100-210

ssd 40-60

riser 8e

so its pretty all good price for me.

so u think good 750w like corsair rmx 750 can push   6   1060?  ssd use like 3w.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: BennyT on August 19, 2017, 04:04:59 AM
Like i said. i have rly cheap electricity. rly rly cheap. i can get any gpu for good price.

1060 6gb 3 coolers    275e
1070 8gb                  around 420e
1080 ti                     around 710e
motherboard 70-90
cpu 40
ram 25-30

psu 100-210

ssd 40-60

riser 8e

so its pretty all good price for me.

so u think good 750w like corsair rmx 750 can push   6   1060?  ssd use like 3w.

If you dropped the power on all the cards they're still pulling 100 watts each with the risers. Add CPU/MOBO and you're close 700. I wouldn't want to be running that close to max. You could probably get away with an 850 but I find the systems performs better with more head room than that.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: toefu on September 12, 2017, 05:37:30 PM
so i've found running 750w evga power supply to be loud and pushed a lot of heat itself running 6 x 1060's. the system runs so much cooler and quieter using a 1000w corsair power supply. since i have these machines in the kitchen, noise was quite an issue for me.

my 6x1060 undervolted setup consumes a total of 550w of power including the system itself. I occasionally see spikes hit 570, but most of the time it hangs out between 550-560.

i am quite curious on the 1070's power/heat as well. doesn't anyone have the numbers on a 1070 setup? total wattage wise?

answered my own question

http://www.cryptominingtalk.com/6-gpu-nvidia-1070-mining-rig/


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Mike011 on September 13, 2017, 03:23:59 AM
right now im not considering the 1050ti because some say it can only do 100 sols on zec miners. Zec will be my alternative once eth goes POS

Some say 100, and i say 145 with 77% power and no OC whatsoever. I am using 3 zotac 1050 ti mini`s and this is the most stable setting i`ve found. If i try to OC for even +30 on the gpu, one of the cards crashes after 10-20 minutes.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: jmigdlc99 on September 13, 2017, 05:48:29 AM
http://www.parallelminer.com/product-category/power-supply-kit/
You still need a regular PSU to power the motherboard, CPU etc though.

Not true. Some server PSUs already come with the 24-pin atx power cable and 6-pin cpu power. Actually, most server PSUs sold for mining already include this, you just need to find the right one that matches your power consumption. But definitely go and aim for server PSUs if youre in this for the long run. Server PSUs are cheaper in terms of SRP and have better power efficiency (most are rated 80+ platinum).


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: jimmykl on September 13, 2017, 08:54:24 AM
http://www.parallelminer.com/product-category/power-supply-kit/
You still need a regular PSU to power the motherboard, CPU etc though.

Not true. Some server PSUs already come with the 24-pin atx power cable and 6-pin cpu power. Actually, most server PSUs sold for mining already include this, you just need to find the right one that matches your power consumption. But definitely go and aim for server PSUs if youre in this for the long run. Server PSUs are cheaper in terms of SRP and have better power efficiency (most are rated 80+ platinum).

Like these from the same supplier even: http://www.parallelminer.com/product/160watt-24pin-atx-power-module-included-sata-molex-cpu-power-connectors-bypass-your-atx-power-supply-entirely/ (http://www.parallelminer.com/product/160watt-24pin-atx-power-module-included-sata-molex-cpu-power-connectors-bypass-your-atx-power-supply-entirely/) They do a 180W but these do the trick for my rigs.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: ivakar on September 13, 2017, 09:14:18 AM
better take 1080ti   8)
cause it is very close to performance of 2x 1070 for a cheaper price and you will save on other stuff like MB, RAM, CPU, SSD

so in case for the farm consist from 6 x 1080ti - you'll need 12x 1070 and x 2 more for all that stuff case, ram an so on
also, important question is the place for the farm, 1080ti will just need 2x less

seriously, I have 3 pcs x 1080ti and I want to take another 1 unit when right time will will come to sell my SIGT  8)
for power supply if you are ok on electronics grab server PSU and combine it with any cheap PSU for 300W for you cpu and mb
or you may buy modded server PSU - it is ready just plug and go


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: jyakulis on September 13, 2017, 12:07:53 PM
probably a 1060 for eth.

but i love 1070's. They can mine nearly anything profitably.

If i was building something new right now it'd be 1070's or 1080 ti.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: msmde on September 26, 2017, 04:16:19 PM
late to arrive here, but aren't most if not all new 1060 models equpped with hynix memory which has a lower hash rate compared to 1060s made with samsung? with that in mind, it seems that 1060s aren't a good choice if they are only going to do 14-16 mh/s out of the box. maybe 18-19 if OCed. 1070s, while more expensive, would give you better efficiency


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: B00gieman on September 26, 2017, 06:10:28 PM
Hello.
My config is:

Asrock ProBTC+
PSU: 1200w Platinum
4Gb Memory
Intel Pentium
Samsung SSD 240gb
6* NVIDIA 1700 (+100 / +720) - Gigabyte - 430€/each
PowerDraw: 80%
Electricity Cost: 0,20€

Mining On NiceHAsh
ETH: +- 190 MH
ETH +Decred: 170 MH/ 5.38Gh
Zcash: 2.57 kH/s
ROI? 8/9€ day.. Forget it... Mine for fun... waiting for the 10k BTC


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: crairezx20 on September 26, 2017, 07:53:53 PM
probably a 1060 for eth.

but i love 1070's. They can mine nearly anything profitably.

If i was building something new right now it'd be 1070's or 1080 ti.
I was planning to buy if what is good 1070 or 1080 ti what do you think could be more profitable.. since i have free electricity so its not a problem if the gpu is eating more electricity. . What do you think much better to get profitable in terms of cheaper.. ?

Hello.
My config is:

Asrock ProBTC+
PSU: 1200w Platinum
4Gb Memory
Intel Pentium
Samsung SSD 240gb
6* NVIDIA 1700 (+100 / +720) - Gigabyte - 430€/each
PowerDraw: 80%
Electricity Cost: 0,20€

Mining On NiceHAsh
ETH: +- 190 MH
ETH +Decred: 170 MH/ 5.38Gh
Zcash: 2.57 kH/s
ROI? 8/9€ day.. Forget it... Mine for fun... waiting for the 10k BTC

good earnings for nvidia  1700 is it nVidia Quadro FX 1700 is a complete name what exactly gpu name?
Because just i am just curious i just saw the price is honestly really cheap from amazon but why its 430€ each..
Just wanted to clarify because i just found 50 dollar in amazon just copy paste the nvidia 1700 in amazon but i saw 50 dollar graphics card..


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: Kunani on September 26, 2017, 08:23:16 PM
I had the same thoughts, so bought all of them. Here are the comparisons on EWBF mining Equihash in my test rig. Hope this helps.

1080TI, 174W, 632 Sol/s, 3.63 Sol/W (Pwr limited to 60%)

1070, 147W, 460 Sol/s, 3.13 Sol/w Eff (Pwr limit: 100%)

1060 3GB, (Hyncrap) 109W, 300 Sol/s, 2.72 Sol/W (Pwr limit: 100%)

This is with Core +100 / Mem +500 running.




Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: jimmykl on September 27, 2017, 06:26:10 AM
Quote
good earnings for nvidia  1700 is it nVidia Quadro FX 1700 is a complete name what exactly gpu name?
Because just i am just curious i just saw the price is honestly really cheap from amazon but why its 430€ each..
Just wanted to clarify because i just found 50 dollar in amazon just copy paste the nvidia 1700 in amazon but i saw 50 dollar graphics card..

The Quadro FX 1700 is about 10 years old. Maybe better for Microsoft Word than mining.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: umine on September 27, 2017, 08:51:19 AM
I had the same thoughts, so bought all of them. Here are the comparisons on EWBF mining Equihash in my test rig. Hope this helps.

1080TI, 174W, 632 Sol/s, 3.63 Sol/W (Pwr limited to 60%)

1070, 147W, 460 Sol/s, 3.13 Sol/w Eff (Pwr limit: 100%)

1060 3GB, (Hyncrap) 109W, 300 Sol/s, 2.72 Sol/W (Pwr limit: 100%)

This is with Core +100 / Mem +500 running.


You forget about GTX1080. It gives from 560 to 610 Sol/s depending on GPU OC and model at 3.2-3.3 Sol/W effeciency. So it's probably the best solution for equihash algo


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: B00gieman on September 27, 2017, 11:46:21 AM
Yes. Do not confuse: NVIDIA GTX 1700 is different from Quadro FX 1700. This onde, as said, is more than a decade old. Its useless for mining.

Correction of my previous post: PowerDraw is 65%. Not 80.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: jimmykl on September 27, 2017, 01:04:01 PM
Yes. Do not confuse: NVIDIA GTX 1700 is different from Quadro FX 1700. This onde, as said, is more than a decade old. Its useless for mining.

Correction of my previous post: PowerDraw is 65%. Not 80.

There is no such card as a GTX 1700? Do you mean GTX 1070?


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: SirNeo on January 08, 2018, 01:59:48 PM
Hello guys,

Can you please give me a quick advice. What should i buy for my rig GTX 1060 or 1070 for the below prices.
I can have 8x 1060 or 6x 1070 for the same money.


GTX 1060 Windforce OC 6GB DDR5 192-bit -> 350 euro

GTX 1070 Windforce OC 8GB DDR5 256-bit*** -> 500 euro



*** not in stock

BR,
The chosen one :)


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: deksa on February 08, 2018, 11:08:00 AM
I have a similar question and a doubt, so please advise:

Since Eth is soon to be POS, I plan on starting with Zcash (and any other Nvidia prefered algo).

I have I3 Sandy Bridge with 8GB Ram and a Single slot PCI Motherboard (I want to buy bigger GPU so I can use my existing PC) but if more smaller GPUs are a better profit I would make a RIG.
I want to make profit in a short run (I don't plan to save coins, except if I must).

I have these offers, the prices are a bit high these days since the hype:

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 GAMING = 560e
Gainward GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5 192bit PCIe = 300e
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0 8GB = 580e
Gainward GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB GDDR5 256bit = 600e
ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti ROG Poseidon Platinum 11GB GDDR5X 352bit PCIe = 940e

What would you do in my stead? 1 x 1080ti or more of the lesser ones?

Thanks!


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: BennyT on February 08, 2018, 01:40:20 PM
My favourite card is a 1060 6gb. At 70 watts pumping out 25 MH/s, there's nothing better. The cards I "like" best are the 1070 ti's. 31.5 MH/s @ 49-50 degrees but at around 120 watts. So no brainer for me if power is of any concern.


Title: Re: 1060 vs 1070 mining rig
Post by: dalsoft on February 08, 2018, 02:06:55 PM
I'm running 1060's because they are more comparable to RX570's in terms of power consumption and cost of the card.

On my 1060's I get 22 MH/s using 70 Watts per card, on my RX570 I'm getting 25 MH/s using 105 watts per card.

I've got my Palit GeForce GTX 1060 DUAL 6GB to 23.5 MH/s at 115 watts.

But for me I stuck with 22 MH/s using 70 Watts as I live in the UK and electricity is not cheap here.