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why?

I think think the probably is already there. Bitcoin's main issue right now is the high transaction fee's. We have seen countless thread saying that the bitcoin fee is too high. So I think this will be the deciding factor for some casual investors like us. If the issue will not be resolved, I guessing that ETH will surpass bitcoin and become the no. 1 currency. I hope I'm wrong.

Who cares? Bitcoin and Ethereum do not compete (except in the minds of morons).

It's like asking, "Will Honda surpass Kraft?"

Bitcoin's main problem at the moment is the huge amount of fees it charges for a transaction, but that will come to an end with the Segwit2x. After that it will be unclear for everyone to determine which coin comes on top. I'd bet that ETH might surpass BTC as it is already close to doing so according to http://www.flippening.watch/ but I expect also BTC/BTU to recover soon after.

I think in the near term Ether will surpass bitcoin in the near term, but in the long term its not so easy to predict.

Bitcoin could potentially adopt scaling solutions in the next months and it could potentially also get an accepted US ETF in the future. Even if bitcoin falls to second place soon these factors will lead to big spikes in its price and bring it back on top. Looking further ahead than that though I could potentially see Ether or another altcoin winning out if it truly offers better value to its users.

Surpass in what? In price, no way! In total market capitalization, this is possible. In total supply, already passed...

It does look as if it could with all the recent events which has befallen bitcoin all at once recently.
Coinbase, China miners, China exchanges, Governments around the globe going against it and in retaliation siding with ethereum and looking at Viatlik's tech instead. :-\

On the contrary, I don't think ETH can surpassed bitcoin in terms of trading volume or market cap. Although I must admit that ETH has gaining grounds and the dominant that bitcoin has before diminishing, I don't think ETH has too much to offered though. It is only temporarily and bitcoin will again rise from the occasion when the all the bumps and hindrances has been fix in the future(high tx fees)

Probably? No. If fees is the only concerned then it might not the factor for Etherium to surpass bitcoin. No way majority of people will use another cryptocurrency for usage purposes. Remember that bitcoin is used now to the things that a currency does like. For Etherium to become no. 1 cryptocurrency, it must surpass what bitcoin does today. Today, Etherium is only hype just to make money.

I have Etherium too in my portfolio as part of my coins to be hold for long term but that's only for that and not as hoping that Etherium will paseed Bitcoin.

Agree but in the short term it's quite possible that ETH will surpass bitcoin in terms of growth but that also comes with a lot of volatility, even more than bitcoin's

Better question:

What is Ethereum actually getting used for?

One thing I want to tell because of this Bitcoin the ETH is growing so fast. To see bitcoins, the ETH developers are improving the technology and making that coin popular in the market. But right now I think the ETH price will depend on Bitcoin. If the BTC go down then automatically the ETH price also go down. There is no doubt that ETH will never surpass Bitcoin.

As one​ of the mate quoted, where ethereum is used for. The usage of bitcoin and the acceptance in several forms of investment to business and other related activities were found high with bitcoin compared to ethereum and other altcoins which were purely used for trading purpose.

I think it's prudent to own some ETH just in case. Whether it will surpass Bitcoin or not is not so important to me.
About the utility. Well there are some big guns signed up for the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance so ETH (probably) has the potential to evolve into something big in the near future. Sit tight, hold some ETH coins and wait for the big picture to unravel  ;)

My thoughts exactly

Its not impossible for ether to have a higher price value but for the time being ETH will remain second best.

Bitcoin total market cap will be surpassed any day now because of the increased smart contract based projects.

Dont panic, its just a hype for the coin or some groups against bitcoin pumping ethereum, or maybe switching to ethereum and will be back after the issue of segwit.

Honda > kraft. 100% for sure. Way more useful.

Nah but seriously ethereum is just a pump and dump for morons that missed out on bitcoins and dont understand that it's not worth 30 BILLION dollars!!!

Due to the transaction of the bitcoin is getting increasingly painful specially for small transaction i think etherum have possibilty to surpass bitcoin at least untill this scaling issue is resolved. i'm not a big fan of the etherum but i must confess that transaction with etherum is simpler,faster and the fee are also cheap. In the other hand its smart contract capability it is usually the first platform that company go to.

What is your real question,will ether surpass bitcoin under what circumstances .If you are looking at the price then there wont be any chance in the near future ,if you are talking about the number of projects started with ETH,then it might and ether is used only for creating these sort of projects and it cannot be considered as a currency,so bitcoin tops everywhere.

Why not, ethereum is new revolution in technology of blockchain, we can build projects on there be called dapps, that is more good than bitcoins blockchain, we can not build projects on bitcoins blockchain. Ethereum has smart contract be offered to the people than bitcoins blockchain, so there is chance ethereum defeat the bitcoins.

No one can says if ethereum surpass bitcoin only time can says because ethereum had a high potential to become famous in market. Especially to what will happen lately the bitcoin was fall back the price but ethereum were straight raising up.

There is a chances that ETH can surpassed bitcoin, ETH itself got so many investors and so many things that been developed​, now ETH only need the implementation and more popularity, this year the ETH growth is at a very good rate and in my opinion the growth is better than bitcoin, but to surpassed bitcoin ETH still need time

for transactions and development eth is better for now than bitcoin but eth still needs a lot of things to surpass bitcoin. from the price that I think the distance is still far away and overall bitcoin is still good for investors.

Who knows only the market that can determine the price of the coin, several factors that make the value of such coins the number of coins produced, the popularity of the coin in the widespread community. For now I think the etherum has not been able to surpass bitcoin  :)

Very stupid to invest in ETH.
Fake capitalisation, Hyperinflation.
But you can try use it, download blockchain and make come smart contracts.

so why there's time market volume of ETH is bigger than BTC? It is possible they will surpass bitcoin. Investors are shifting to ETH because of high fees experiencing by the investors nowadays.

Ponzi scheme + Market manipulation.
Old "investors" sell - new buy.

Maybe Ether will surpass bitcoin because as Ive observe many peole hooked up to invest in Ethereum. Maybe not maybe yes will surpass. Also bitcoin is the top being use nationwide though Ethereum is next. So Im still observing these two.

Definitely not. At least bitcoin at the moment does not have an active major hard fork even though there probably will be in the future. But ethereum has its own big problem which is Ether classic, i think that ether classic will actually pick up some momentum and climb to around 1/4 of Ether's price in the very near future because Ether classic was the original ether, the ether that everyone bought at the crowdsale. But somehow people don't realise that and they keep on pumping ETH instead.


Agreed. It's funny how eth supporters(not all of them) try to say that bitcoin is the most centralized coin blah blah blah.

Invest for -51% annually? lol not. It inday speculators, who will sell all in 1 day.

Because The more people are realized about the future of ethereum. The scaling problem is the main problem that makes the rapid increase of ethereum demands and volume.

Just Ponzi scheme, old "investors" sell ETH to new.

Also you can read this: https://pastebin.com/ZUxTmR99

It's a big nope for me, I'm confident that bitcoin will not be surpassed by Eth and it will always be on the top list.

I have to agree that eth is now becoming even popular and with it's upcoming change from PoW to PoS.

It's making eth hunters and traders to hoard more but still it can't defeat bitcoin.

Impossible, miners will not accept it.
Fake capitalisation and mad Ponzi scheme based price will make it fall in some any day to $1.

Ethereum has scaling issues on its own. I guess you did not notice how ETH was shut down the other day, because of an ICO?

ETH is simply an ICO machine. 90% of the traffic is just ICO, and 1% is Dapps. The price increase is due to need for ETH for ICO's.

Not https://etherscan.io/chart/ethersupplygrowth

ICO's use nothng

ETH market cap will pass BTC in 2 months, I think.

ICO's use ETH.

In order to buy an ICO, you have to have ETH.
So you buy ETH, and because of demand, price goes up.

This is standard market economics. Supply and demand.

See it: https://etherscan.io/chart/ethersupplygrowth
Im cannot see any using of ETH, can see only crazy inflation

The supply has a fixed increase as we see.

I talk about the demand.

You do not see the demand in your chart no do you?

Will Ethereum pass Bitcoin?

In marketcap, yes, I'm sure it will, and fairly soon.
I'm interested to see whether this leads to a wave of media reports, and greater exposure of crypto in general, and then a new wave of investors and speculators.

USD price of this supply blob not fixed, it grow with 1 coin price.
49.77% inflation will be permanent, with any crazy price.

You mean fake marketcap?
It one of ways to Deceive investors

Where do you get 49% inflation?

May 2016   80 mil
May 2017   91 mil

Thats like 13% inflation.

I do not understand why you keep replaying and putting in numbers that do not have anything to do with anything.

The price-increase on ETH is due to demand for ETH due to ICO's.
Period.

Invest in bitcoins than Ether as bitcoins will be $3000+ by the end of this year and Ether will dump soon.

Why the ether  will dump ? I think it would not. Yes the bitcoin really pumping and hope th at the btc will be at $3k by the end of the year but I dont see any reason why ether will dump . Most of the icos now is using ether so thats the reason why ether is pumping . But I dont think so that the ether will surpass bitcoin now I dont know in the future though

1. Fake market capitalisation.
2. Market manipulation.
3. Hyperinflation.
4. Running off with your money - soon.

http://i.4cdn.org/biz/1497572137777.png

Ethereum has surpassed bitcoin volume since last week and you can verify this on https://coinmarketcap.com. In market capitalization Ethereum is around 34b and bitcoin around 41b and this too close to call. Were I think Ethereum will find difficult to surpass bitcoin is through pricing.

http://i.4cdn.org/biz/1497572137777.png


Just Ponzi scheme, old "investors" sell ETH to new.

For the point I'm making here, the question as to whether it's real or not is immaterial.
What I'm saying is that ETH becoming number one in marketcap will generate publicity.

Deceit of investors

What do you mean by miners will not accept it? They have to accept it and it was all been set and we just need to wait for it to come.

They don't have no choice but to take advantage with this event, they can store the ETH that they mined.

Just like bitcoin, I don't think it will fall back at $1 and so bitcoin won't be too.

ether have so much possibility to surpass BTC,
new coin created based on ether platform.
but i think king will be king(btc).

Could happen if the trading volume is higher than the bitcoin continuously. We know so many current projects that use the ethereum platform as their smart contract. Perhaps in the future the platform will be used by unlimited projects . This will be a new popularity from Ethereum .

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're saying.
Is it that you don't think Eth will become #1 in marketcap? Look at the charts from the beginning of 2017 onwards.
Or is it that you think Eth becoming #1 won't generate wider media publicity of crypto in general?

Fine if you disagree - everyone has their own opinion. I'm not saying my opinion is 100% definitely what will happen, it's just what I think will happen based on available evidence.

What ever coins will be the first coin, they are not completed yet, both Bitcoin nor Ethereum have disadvantages so that in the near future, the first place will be change (as soon as other coins replace Bitcoin) so that we don't need to worry about which coin is on te fiist place

Possible if ethereum would have a better platform when it comes to service and transaction fees which is quite an issue now it btc due to blovkchain congestion. But i dont think it can surpass btc soon may be in the future.

I think not because bitcoin has higher price and biggest volume. You must see price action history and news carefully before say something, it can change your decision on real market. I suggest you join some group to share and develop your knowledge about bitcoin. Never stop to learn and good luck.

Well, when BTC fixed some issue about Blockchain system and fee transaction cheap than now, BTC will prove it is King in cryptocurrency and not any altcoin can replace it! Just wait Segwit successfully in next time :)

It will be seen on the day of activation of segwit that if bitcoin will remain the king of crypto or would ethereum will take its place to get the crown to itself.

I think if the Ethereum will have service and better deals without any problem because if it was not able to transcend the bitcoin will probably, indeed at this time many problems occur at the blockchain slow but that did not diminish the position of the bitcoin. :)

I don't know but I am sure that ethereum could fail but bitcoin cannot.

Sort of, bitcoin will not be ending up being take over by some alt coins and even ETH. I don't know what will be the thoughts of most of the ETH traders, since from PoW to PoS. No more ways to mine ETH. I think after earning from ETH they will jump back to bitcoin and that can boost bitcoins price.

It was looking according to market cap that eth was soon going to cross bitcoin but unfortunately this hoax costed eth to lose atleast $10billion market cap. Before this hoax eth need $4 billion to beat bitcoin but sadly again it shows bitcoin is surely the best and the difference in market cap is more than $14 billion as of now.

Ark will pass Eth first

Looks the upcoming hardfork will be a difficult thing for bitcoin, I'd expected the Bitcoin is able to get surpassed by ethereum itself. The fake news has made the price of ethereum gets plunged but just take some hours to gets recovered so fast above $300. That means the competition is really strict and the possibility about the flippening is always to be real.

Well if the price of eth can be moved by fake news more so if the news already for real so the downfall will continue after its just how bitcoin works before with certain downfall and recover after and with mainstream popularity bitcoin will go and rise even more.

I think there's no way to compete each other, as it have its own platform. Eth is doing great in the market but it doesn't necessarily mean it can already surpass bitcoin. If were talking about the rate, eth should improve more to beat btc rate. Yeah its market cap is rising also its community support but it's not yet enough for more.
Bitcoin already establish its name in the market, knowing it is the top crypto currency. And then it will just remain there.

If the ETH remains a smart contract for several years,
it is possible that the ETH will shift the position of BTC, it will definitely happen

I think marketcap will be a key factor in the ETH vs BTC debate.

I do not think so because Bitcoin is still the most valued cryptocurrency coin in the world and it's hard to beat. If investors focus on ETH more than BTC, it is very likely that ETH will be the most valuable currency and this will happen in the next 5 years.

Btc stays king for several years i think.

Ethereum is only getting used for one thing: Steal BTC from newbies throught endless ICOs... that's all.

Even if Bitcoin gets ruined with the possible hardfork, it wouldn't be able to get the #1 spot because Ethereum got a ton of problems scaling, way way worse than Bitcoin itself.

No

If these initial coin offering start ups keep going like that, ethereum can easily surpass bitcoin. This is the truth clearly. A huge demand observed for ethereum.

Yes, it seems it surpass Bitcoin and will be high in market cap in the following years.