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PRESS RELEASE:

HashMining.eu Cloud Mining Allows Anyone To Mine Ethereum

Author: Hashmining.eu
Date: Sunday, June 18, 2017

Amsterdam, The Netherlands - Hash Mining is pleased to announce our new cloud mining service hashmining.eu that enables anyone to participate in ethereum mining without the need of purchasing specialized hardware.

HashMining.Eu Cloud Mining Allows Anyone to Join the Growing Ethereum Mining Industry
HashMining.eu is an organization of skilled professionals from different fields who commonly believe in future of cryptocurrencies. Headed and founded in late 2016 by Chief Executive Officer, Victor Grosser, (of BitcoinScamFighters.com), leads a team of experienced cloud and crypto mining engineers, analyst, and developers, who are committed to transforming the use and delivery of cryptocurrencies from Europe to the globe.
 
Hashmining.eu is headquartered in Amsterdam, while the mining farms are in The Netherlands & France. Essentially being an alternative to real cryptocurrency mining, it allows the user to enjoy the benefits of receiving ethereum without having to own any actual equipment. Other advantages include the common dilemma in but are not limited to high electricity costs, connection problems, proper cooling, high noise levels and shipping times.
 
A lot of average cryptocurrencies users would like to get into the mining economy, but they lack the technical knowledge of setting up specialized machines. Currently, it is also costly to mine Bitcoin as for the competitiveness. As such, cloud mining is far more convenient than operating own crypto mining hardware. The high-quality equipment allows the mining process to achieve maximum efficiency and makes the contract prices affordable. At the current time, forecasts show there is enough time to receive a decent return on investment (RoI) for ETH.
 
Also, Hashmining.eu users are greeted with yearly contracts (purchased hash rate does not expire), tech support that is available 24/7 and a functional control panel. User's panel displays payout statistics, revenue, and its forecast. Additionally, to boost transparency, Hashmining.eu will provide live streams of their mining rigs and farm on YouTube. Currently, you can view one of their rigs, here, They will continue to expand and add more live streams as they go.


Hashmining.eu also offers a beneficial partner (referral) program which allows the user to receive additional funds from inviting new users. The referral reward is 10% of any referred user's purchase. Hashmining.eu cloud mining services are available to  new users as of now. Check them out today and get the chance to join the 100 KH/s for one year free promotion for the first 1000 users which you can get by utilizing the voucher code: BITCOINTALK2017 after leaving a comment on their Bitcointalk.org forum post.
 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1973676.new#new

If you would like more information about this topic, please contact us at info@hashmining.eu.
 

Great just joined up and applying the promotion code.
Thanks for this promotion and it is nice to see someone is giving back to the community in this introduction to the ethereum token.
Well appreciated from me! ;D

Nice offer you have I am happy to start a new mining project like yours.
Good way to start off with it.
Thanks for the hash.

Our heart is with Ethereum   8)

Thank you!

We hit the 418 CUSTOMERS! Let's mine!

Keen on testing, have only used Genesis and Hash Flare and the ROI is pulling back in some instances. Thanks, will have a look, and maybe buy in.

That is good to hear! Thank you, Hashmining.EU Team

Sounds good, keen to try it out.

Cheers

Looks good... I am going to sign up.. I was going to invest on building rigs anyway..so lets see.

If you are searching videocards. @Sweden is a good location.

Sent us picture of your rig :) info@hashmining.eu

I am located in India..anyway, thanks for the info..

yes, i will send pics of my rig..

Awesome! Thank you!

Our HashChat will be up and running in few hours!

Lets sign up and see how does it go.
Look promising :)

Thanks so much for promoting code ! .
Your website looks so nice , and I think in near future I will buy more mh/s because I can't host a rig in my home :) .
The prices are very good for me , comparing with anothers competitors of cloud mining :)

I just can say , I hope to be n1 in world of cloud mining and to customers I want to say happy mining !

Have a great day cloud miners !

It seems legit project I will support.

Thank you, just received your e-mail.  :)
@Welcome everyone!

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Payment system is working again!  ;D

Check out our twitter account!
https://twitter.com/hashminingEU

Subscribed yesterday. Had some troubles with payment provider, but should be sorted now and I am up and running.

How would I be eligible for the voucher code?
Edit: Nevermind, figured it out.

Hi,
Invested. When I can expect some returns, revenue earned to be visible at dashboard, and when is the withdrawal possible? Thank you in advance.

BR,
Mr.TT

Registered for free: and getting 0.1 MH/s rate :)  ;D ;D ;D ;D So exited!

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Yes,When you enter BUY HASHRATE you can see how much you can earn!

Try again!

Thank you,
Hashmining.EU Team

No. I don't think it is working.
My dashboard shows nothing earned.

is this just a hoax site to draw in people just to sign up?

"When you enter this Agreement to offer us the right to provide you Service, and we accept your offer by sending you an order confirmation (an “Order Confirmation”), a contract (a “Mining Contract”) to provide Service is formed. Upon commencement of Service, we will allocate a part of Mining Hardware equal to certain amount of Ethereum mining computer computational power (“Mining Contract Capacity”) to you for your use in mining Ethereums.
The types of Mining Contracts potentially available at any time are described in detail at Hashing24.com. You must have purchased a Mining Contract to have any right to use Services to obtain any right to Product (defined below)."

https://www.hashmining.eu/terms-of-service/

I have not personally received any contract related to the same. I have paid my service with bitcoins.

BR,
Mr.TT

Hi Maagie,

We are doing a update right now.
If there are any issue's let us know! info@hashmining.eu

Thank you,
Hashmining Team

FAQ:
Q: Will you be offering monthly / weekly subscriptions?
A: No, from our experience users like yearly subscriptions

Thank you,
Hashmining.eu Team

My anserw was removed?
Ask again: does anyone made own deposit here and was it converted into hash power as promised?
Anyone did?

Excellent work guys! Thank you very much. I will be investing shortly more and visiting your office during this year when I am arriving to Europe.

To other investors I would like to highlight that everything is proceeding as agreed upon. Next update will be done by me when the first withdrawal has been processed.

BR,
Mr.TT

So the amount to be paid back for the purchasing of hashing power has been resolved?

Last time I checked it didn't show anything.
It was just a blank area where the amount earned per day would be. :-\

First payment done and instant update of hash power shown on my dashboard. Also actual ETH mined is present
but...
 ??? Question is: is this actual mining value updated accordingly to eth mined or only one time per day?  :o
Do u know?

@Xeon - what is the MIN amount to withdrawal and what is a fee for that?

We are happy to inform you that our withdrawal system is updated and back online!  :)

* Attention - Automatically payout is temporarily disabled because of a technical upgrade.

Thank you,
Hashmining Team

Xeon... why my eth mined and balance is not updated today with latest day of mining??? I made deposit 24h ago and nothing more eth mined...why????

IMO if hashmining.eu wants to get customers and more revenue in, then they should!

It is now.
I guess it took a little longer than usual to get this site going. ;)

The statistics have been udating for the past few days now and receiving the eth to the account now.
Very little but something with the free hash code given during the promotion.

Is the promotion period over now? Did you receive over the first 1000 members yet? Because the counter at the top of the website is no longer available to see how many registered on the site up until now. :-\

Hi GenPro,

Your Ethash contracts are active and mining.

It take sometimes little bit longer because of your mining power, depending all on mining pools.

Hope this was helpful!

Best regards,
Hashmining Team

If I invest 20k euros now, and they do this POS and mining is no longer possible, what happens to my money invested?

BR,
Mr.TT

Hello Cloudmining,

Why you do think you are better then Genesis mining since they are offering a better deal = 2 years contract for 2.8k dollar for 100mh/s?

And they have being around for long time.

Hi,

Just wondering, could hash power eventually be bought with fiat currency via wire transfer or credit card?

Thanks!

Hi
I get the chance to join the 100 KH/s for one year free promotion for the first 1000 users which I get by utilizing the voucher code: BITCOINTALK2017 after leaving a comment on their Bitcointalk.org forum post.
I was getting daily free mining on my account but last 3days it dropped to zero. Please help me why its happening?

Dear ameisenbaer,

We accept wire-transfers.

Kind Regards,
Hashmining Team

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

OK, good news! :-)

However, I did not see that option on your Web site - I see only crypto currency listed there as payment method...

Could you maybe point me in the right direction?

Is there maybe something like a how-to tutorial anywhere on your site? That'll be rather helpul - didn't find any meaninful help on that either.

Best regards.

Hi ameisenbaer,

We are processing it manually at this moment.
Our system will be updated next week with the option bank-transfer, IDEAL and many more!

Kind Regards,
HashMining Team

Website crashed...

Also I dont have counted/updated my earnings/balance since friday...

Are you guys seriously doing business or is this just a pure scam?

Hello maagine

Currently, there is no known date when PoS will be released.
It is tricky to determine how that will affect as the point is not to amass but to be validated for each stake we make.
Removing the step of spending on equipment and electricity might be something great for us miners but it isn't a definite as yet.
But we are definitely going to mine other coins too in the near future.
Still, we are going to watch all developments for when POS is truly released.

Regards,

The HashMining.eu Team

Hello

could you please specify what exactly on the webpage does not work for you?

Thanks
HashMining.eu team

Hello

could you please copypaste this question into email info@hashmining.eu?
We would like to know more information on this from you and hence a better communication is required.

Thanks
HashMining.eu Team

We just hit the 2006 CUSTOMERS!  :)

Hello

We believe a 1-year contract max is reasonable because of the unpredictable nature of crypto currencies on long-term perspective.
We find 1-year contract more fair as it reflects the needs of our customers' base.
This is our differentiation from Genesis Mining.

HashMining.eu Team

so if pos happen with eth you will put your mining rig to another coin right? that's fair enough and i will be checking the possibility of my own
investment as i seen that this could bring good returned after the contract, good luck to you and congrats for the continues membership.

This is a good project for profit making I recommend that investors join

There is a few things i don't like and want to know more about before i invest.
1 your pricing on website is same as hashflair but on dashboard it only lets you bit .83 mh/s ether so webpage and dashboard is way off.
2 in the video it looks to me like your not mining ether it looks like and asic

Can we Please get a better view of the live feed?  All I can see is a couple miners and a close up of a cooling fan...

I also am wondering how I can claim that bonus for the first 1000 users? I have signed up today.

I'm a huge Genesis mining promoter and have already taken you up on your blogging campaign. Anyways, I look forward to seeing your business succeed.

I would like to know why payouts are so irregular. In my dashboard last addition of mined Eth was on 26-06. There are already 3 dots on the 0 line for the past 3 days. What is happening? It doesn't provide a lot of confidence if the reason one puts money into this project doesn't get the feeling something is actually happening.

Dear all

We are having some general issue, our developer is fixing this right now.
Once it is fixed, we will announce it here.

HashMining.eu team

Mining pool just paid out!  :) Sorry for the delay!

The issue fixed. We had a delay, sorry for the inconvenience.

hi sent you email. Please reply me back then we can continue the cooperation.

My dashboard has been updated. Thanks!

Very perspective way to get involved into Mining without hardware. Looking forward for this project  ;)

Here's my reference: https://client.hashmining.eu/r/HM996657204

Our support has sent you an e-mail back if this is correct.

Kind Regards,
Hashmining.EU

You never answered my questions

This thread is full of newb accounts

Client dashboard is down whole day already. What is happening?

https://image.ibb.co/bJ2F7k/Isitdown.jpg

Oh I will check this cloud mining site.It looks really interesting and it is great because it is in Europe :D

Hi I have emailed you about our Chinese translation. Please reply to me.

Dear Clients, As of now, the client panel can be accessed again. We appreciate your patience and wish you good mining! #hashminingEU

The manager will answer you e-mail next Monday, sorry for the delay!

Thank you,
Hashmining Team

*** WEEKEND BONUS***

Dear customers and potential customers!
Only until the end of this weekend ***extra mining power*** for new orders!
On all orders above the 10 MH/s, you will receive a 3 MH/s bonus! AMAZING, RIGHT?!?! ;D

Login/sign up here https://client.hashmining.eu/login to purchase your BONUS Hash POWER. The bonus hashpower will be automatically added to your account.

Enjoy our amazing offer and have yourself a relaxing weekend,
The HashMining.EU Team

When would the bonus hashes be applied? I managed to sign someone up using referral system, but he says he didn't get bonus added yet.

I would like to know that too.
Btw pricing is not the same as hashflair because hashmining offers 1 year contracts and hashflare offers life time contracts, and price in hashmining is in euro while price in hashflare is in dollars. 1 year contract can't be compared to life time contract!

His pricing is 1.20 euro for BTC 10GH/s 1 year contract
hashflair is 1.20 dollars for BTC 10GH/s lifetime * well in profit

his pricing scrypt 13.50 euro 1 mh/s 1 year contract
hashflair scrypt 13.50 dollars 1 mh/s life time * well in profit

his pricing for ETH 2.20 euro for 100 kh/s 1 year contract
hashflair for ETH 2.20 dollars for 100 kh/s 1 year contract

Go look at his https://hashmining.eu/pricing/ page and then look at hashflair https://hashflare.io/#plans  i see a copy paste and a few little switchs.

Sorry but i see a huge red flag on this cloud mining, the live feed is garbage and is on some fans not any thing like a mining farm.

He is still skipping my post and going to the newb post.
Why will you not answer anything questions.

Holly f... your post looks like you translate my post from local board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1990225.msg19842637#msg19842637   :o

But yeah, he is avoiding your questions. OP I would like to see pictures of your mining farms.

I honestly thought the live feed being on a fan was my red flag to not invest.
If you offer a live feed, why do that? Either screams incompetents or trying to pull a fast one.
Makes the project look retarded anyway. I've had that free 0.1 for days without a payout...
So, I'm out

Nope never even look for other post i just wrote what i see and that is the fact he is just copying off hashflairs page.

And well by you posting that 3 days earlier i am not the only one who is seeing that. Hope know one falls for this scam


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I honestly thought the live feed being on a fan was my red flag to not invest.
If you offer a live feed, why do that? Either screams incompetents or trying to pull a fast one.
Makes the project look retarded anyway. I've had that free 0.1 for days without a payout...
So, I'm out
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Ya i do not understand this poor effort he is putting in to scamming.
JUST DON'T invest

Has been down for over a day now again. Please explain what is happening as I am not really getting a convincing feeling the operation is running reliably.

Hello
We're currently facing a DDoS-attack by hackers, we're trying to get an access to our secured system - therefore client panel remains temporarily inaccessible. Our provider is doing a deep investigation and upgrading our servers. Big apologies for this inconvenience. We'll announce here, once it's up and running.

Please sent us an e-mail: info@hashmining.eu

OUR CLIENT PANEL IS BACK ONLINE!

Kind Regards,
Hashmining Team

I honestly thought the live feed being on a fan was my red flag to not invest.
If you offer a live feed, why do that? Either screams incompetents or trying to pull a fast one.
Makes the project look retarded anyway. I've had that free 0.1 for days without a payout...
So, I'm out
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Ya i do not understand this poor effort he is putting in to scamming.
JUST DON'T invest
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0.1 MH/s it will be visible after 4 dots.
It will be visible in estimated 1 week: 0.0003249 ETH

Check the mining profit calculation:
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/eth?HashingPower=0.1&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=140&CostPerkWh=0

Ya i do not understand this poor effort he is putting in to scamming.
JUST DON'T invest
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0.1 MH/s it will be visible after 4 dots.
It will be visible in estimated 1 week: 0.0003249 ETH

Check the mining profit calculation:
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/eth?HashingPower=0.1&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=140&CostPerkWh=0

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you just skip over all my questions again

0.1 MH/s it will be visible after 4 dots.
It will be visible in estimated 1 week: 0.0003249 ETH

Check the mining profit calculation:
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/eth?HashingPower=0.1&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=140&CostPerkWh=0

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you just skip over all my questions again
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We already answer you it will be visible on your balance after 0.000X

you just skip over all my questions again
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We already answer you it will be visible on your balance after 0.000X
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no you didn't you answered someone else nothing to do with my questions so read over all the post and answer all the questions not just the ones you want

If promotion code still has active then I applied for that .
Thanks

I would like to promote the blog and ref program

But before that, need more proofs of mining farm and more reliable info

Too much of Cloud mining end up fail :/

We already answer you it will be visible on your balance after 0.000X
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no you didn't you answered someone else nothing to do with my questions so read over all the post and answer all the questions not just the ones you want
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Hello skyline_king

could you please be more specific on what questions remained unanswered from your perspective? We have just read all the thread through and cannot find any what we didn't answer. Please copypaste again. Thank you for your patience again.

HashMining.EU Team

I just sign up
And thank to the hash..
Happy mining..!!

Everything about hashmining.eu is so incredibly fishy that there is no reason NOT to think it's a scam. To think that an enterprise asking for people to invest their hard-earned money would allow as much negative commentary to develop as is evident on this thread defies logic and only reinforces the notion that anyone ... like myself... who's sent them money is not going to get it back. Despite that fact that "somebody" comes onto this thread fairly frequently to "answer" questions and defend hashmining's position, the nearly robotic and often evasive answers they provide certainly have not built the least bit of confidence. And although I know one guy who claims to have legitimately cashed out 1 ETH from his account (on a $2,800 investment, mind you!), that's obviously how pyramid schemes work at first. I myself made a modest "investment" on June 26th. Since then their client pages with my account records have been "down" for hours at a time on two occasions and, as of this moment, I have not seen my pay out records updated since July 3. And although they have answered a couple of questions I sent them via email in the past, they only responded in situations that might have induced me to investment more and have declined to respond to basic, substantive questions about their business model and operations. Add to that the unbelievably ridiculous "live feed" that claims to show their "mining operation" in action, but which in fact shows NOTHING... a keyboard, a fan... I mean, it's like somebody's doing this as a joke! While hashmining does manage to do bits of damage control here and there in other forums (Youtube, Twitter), all in all one has the sense that a devious intention is behind the whole thing. If you check out the mining contract on their website, for instance, partway through the document is starts talking about mining "bitcoin," even though they claim to only mine / pay in ether... a pretty good sign that the "contract" was lifted from somewhere else and hastily revised to look "legit." I am extremely sympathetic to small, start-up enterprises and the headaches they can encounter; and I know that Coinbase's website goes down too and that Coinbase it not great about responding to emails either. But hashming.eu is either the worst-run cloud mining operation in the world or it's the worst-run cloud mining SCAM in the world. I assume most people jumping on here to say they're investing are shills at best, fools at worst. I just find it odd that some of the people listed as "principles" of the company on their website are so visible online in other places (Facebook, Twitter, Couchsurfing)... I mean, aren't these people afraid of legal action when / if this thing blows up? Or do crypto "investors" have a reputation for being suckers who just walk away whenever they get fleeced? At any rate, I would be delighted to get my money back, but am more or less assuming that this particular "investment" will be written off as a "sacrifice" to the cryptocurrency gods. I hope I'm wrong but don't see any reason to change my opinion to date.

Yes I am afraid you are right. No payouts for days, hardly any response, weird DDoS claims. Coins invested are a write off. Fool me once....

They haven't updated payouts on their site since July 3d. With no posts, tweets or emails explaining why.

It's funny how "chatty" hashmining's reps were on this thread a week ago...they're suddenly so silent.

Dear users

we are still at your disposal. Currently we are upgrading our system, therefore payouts haven't taken place since 3rd July.
Thank you for your patience.

HashMining.EU Team

I don't know what it will produce, but I'm going to report this hashmining.eu racket to
the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

I hope anybody who's getting scammed will join me and do the same.
Don't be cynical... it might produce a result.
These thieves have left multiple pathways through which their activities can be traced.
Save all your correspondence with them!
They have violated the terms of a published contract and contravened many international laws.
I have saved screenshots of everything from their website and urge everyone to do the same.

Relax Jason! Hashmining eu will most likely reply when they have something to inform. I think it is too early to jump into any conclusions...

All payouts has been processed! So i really don't know which payment you are waiting on!
Did you confirm the withdrawal e-mail ?

Thank you,
Hashmining.EU Team
 

@ Jasonx31 :  Take a deep breath and relax! Its is pure speculation what your writing. So far there has been some delays in information but they came back every time and corrected the situation. Admitted it could be faster but so far there are no proof of scam or alike. So before you report anybody to anyone remember its also illegal to spread slander about others. Happy mining!  8)

Yes, seems all payments for missing days have been done and withdrawls came through too. Now only for the 3MH/s promised last week to be added still please, so I can get my referrals of my back.

We are working on that xKingx, my support staff will sent an special voucher to allow you to add the 3MH/s.
Thanks for reporting that the missing payments and withdrawals has been processed.

Kind Regards,
Hashmining.EU Team

Really nice, but I checked and my referal still hasn't got a voucher or in any other way received the 3MH/s you have been advertising, including additional mail campaign. Why take the trouble if you can't make good on such a promise?

Still nothing on the advertised 3MH/s extra 2 (!) weeks ago. Also no payouts again for days, this being the 4th in a row. Either communicate on what is going on or just close shop so I can get on with other things.

I agree with you! The behavior of this service provider is very unusual. Based on the tip from Wickjohn I have started to dig a little deeper into the individual resources involved. I have contacts in Amsterdam that will help out here. I personal joined after a promotion on Coin-telegraph and I tipped them of to do a background as well. So lets see if the hashminers surface and solve the technical issues. It would be ironic if the scam-detectives turned out to be scammers them selves :D More to come in this matter...

Hi Mr,
Please keep us updated.

Some recent observations and facts to throw more light on the activity at hashmining.eu:

The people:

The hashmining homepage has been altered - no longer mention of Grosser or the other named key persons
Even https://www.bitcoinscamfighters.com/ homepage has been changed - some key members seem to have left the project

The website hashmining.eu is registered to a person called Victor Mekela and contact information is info@nex7go.com, Amsterdam
Phone +31848846639 - not a person mentioned anywhere else but the email company info is familiar

The key person, as far as we can tell is, Victor Grosser, Dutch citizen living in the Amsterdam area
Linked In status: CEO of Hashmining.EU (even though it is not a company)
On the bitcoinscamfighters.com homepage his profile is still published as CEO but the team / advisory profiles are changed

Another profile is Mel Lake (communication officer)
On hashmining.eu home page - profile removed
LinkedIn status update : stopped as Communications Manager at Nex7go july 2017

For the other (former) resources on hashmining or bitscamfighters we have not been able to find updates explaining the changes

Companies:

The legal entity structure for these activities are build offshore (UK).
Nex7go BV that is mentioned several places is in fact a Dutch company but owned by the offshore holding company

Here are the some company details:

Nex7go BV (LtD) - 120 EUR BV - seems to be the company involved in hashmining.eu - Shareholder is: V&C Familiy Group LLP (OC415645)
Company registered address: Veembroederhof 281, 1019HD, Amsterdam, The Nederlands (like the other companies)
Datum in functie 27-01-2017 (datum registratie: 02-02-2017)


Top of the holding:

V&C FAMILY GROUP LLP (OC415645) holding company - co owned by: Victor Grosser & Bernadette Christelle Raissa Van Amsterdam
Company Status: Active
Correspondence address:  Veembroederhof 281, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1019 HD
Victor Grosser:  ACTIVE LLP Designated Member  Appointed on 27 January 2017
Individual Person with Significant Control details:
 -Bernadette Christelle Raissa Van Amsterdam
 -Victor Grosser

Other owned entities where Victor Grosser is Director:

CRYPTO LAW LIMITED (10814467)- 1 EUR company - co-director: BITCOINSCAMFIGHTERS LTD - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Victor Grosser Director Appointed on 12 June 2017

BITCOINSCAMFIGHTERS LTD (10793769)- 1 EUR company - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Victor Grosser Director  Appointed on 30 May 2017

MELANIN NETWORK LTD. (10783751) - 1 EUR company - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Victor Grosser Director Appointed on 22 May 2017

CRYPTISH LTD. (10783752)- 1 EUR company - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Victor Grosser Director  Appointed on 22 May 2017

XXX7HOT.COM LTD. (10776119)- 1 EUR company - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Victor Grosser Director Appointed on 17 May 2017

BRANDMYWIFI LIMITED (10629291) (Former name: ORANGE 4 CAPITAL LIMITED (20 Feb 2017 - 07 Apr 2017) 1 EUR company - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Correspondence address Veembroederhof 281, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1019 HD
Victor Grosser Director Appointed on 20 February 2017

PLERUSQUE LIMITED (10623063) - 1 EUR company - co-director V&C FAMILY GROUP LLP - Shareholder/Owner: V&C FAMILY GROUP LLP
Company Status Active
Correspondence address 61-105, Weesperstraat, 1018 Vn, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Bernadette Christelle Raissa Van Amsterdam  Director  Appointed on 16 February 2017

All offshore companies are recorded to be located at:

Registered office address:
CFS International Formations
DEPT 302,43 OWSTON ROAD
CARCROFT, DONCASTER
DN6 BOA
UNITED KINGDOM

So in fact it is a busy family but there are nothing directly illegal (per say) in the circumstances presented here.
One may say that maybe Mr & Mrs Grosser is overambitious and time optimists and with team members leaving the amount of work they need to do will increase.
But lets see what happens in the next days on hashmining.eu - we keep looking and should any more news come up we will let you know...

I have not received any payouts, withdrawal is not working...

Very interesting details you share!
A fast check reveals that Ashwin Grösser (same birth date as Victor) and Michael Nana Adjei had a company Eye247 Ltd that was incorporated aug 2015 and forced to dissolved by nov 2016
If he operates under several names he must even have falsified ID documents of some sort.
Bernadette Christelle Raissa Van Amsterdam (Christelle van Amsterdam) is co-owner of the holding company and controls equally the assets
Jan Piek appears to have a company registered at Veembroederhof 281, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1019 HD but no evidence that he and Grosser have joint operations
The other aka's haven't shown any results but it appears by the information you have that this is a genuine bottom-feeder. Let us hope enough pressure is put on his case to force a stop to his activities...

Wow, thanks for the info and a link. I wanted to use this cloudmining platform, before you've gotten this proof

Same here. Withdrawls not working, others are stuck in a "Transaction queued" state. Also bonus hashes promised weeks ago are not added. Their "support" is not replying. Please pull the plug already.

Most likely we wont hear any more from CEO Grosser or "the support team" but its interesting how the setup was made

Offshore company formation an registration is very easy - there are many companies who provide assistance and "of-the-shelf" paperwork to do so - and its generally legal - the issue comes later when taxation has to be declared and paid. A foreign (UK based) company can register a subsidiary in EU (forexample Holland) and transfer all revenue from the subsidiary tax free to the offshore owner (provided you do it right and the holding is due to pay tax elsewhere). Thats why they bother make all these companies.

people  telling Jan piek  also  called  john  Pieck   where  partners  in  a  similar  as  it seems  scam  called  orange4capital  or later oc247  all  companies  are  related  to the  same addresses  in  doncaster  and  amsterdam.

What shows in public records is that Orange4capital Ltd was formed in the UK 20 feb 2017, owned by the V&P Family Group LLP (same holding that controls all other offshore companies involved) - this company changed name to BRANDMYWIFI LIMITED by 2017 apr 07

ORANGE 4 WALLET LTD - Incorporated 2017-mar-07
Co-owned by V&P Family Group LLP (Victor) and JMR Family Group LLP (both at the same address in Holland) with a Director called Christalla Kirkillari (she removed as director 2017-jun-14)

Now JMR Family Group LLP (OC416260) is the link to Jan Piek:
Correspondence address: 281 Veembroederhof, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1019 HD - sounds familiar?
People involved:
Madelene Willy Bezee , Jan Piek and Riccardo Victor Oscar Donatus Fortunatus Piek are all LLP Designated Member and Appointed on 6 March 2017
It is however Jan & Ricardo Piek that controls the company assets

Former sites:
Domain: oc247.world   Registrar: Uniregistrar Corp  Registration Date:2017-04-12  Updated Date:2017-04-28 - Status: site is down
Domain: orange4wallet.com  Registration Date:2017-02-20  Updated Date:2017-03-02 - Status: site is down
Domain: orange4capital.com  Registration Date:2017-01-03  Updated Date:2017-03-06 - Status: site is down
Domain: orange4.capital  Registration Date:2017-01-03  Updated Date:2017-03-11 - Status: site is down

Hashmining.eu and bitcoinscammers seems to be up and running still...

I will as of now consider my investment lost to yet another internet scam - and while regretting being so stupid also be more careful in the future...

My concern is that with the anarchistic crypto-currencies we have limited governance over fraudulent behavior - a new situation where no one else can help you get justice like in this situation
These people can disappear and still reach their (stolen) assets from anywhere - fine balance between trust and technology

ETH 30 mh/s = 600 euro :o Really ? Very unfavorable prices for mining.Good platform but the price tag bites.

Hilarious! The scammers are in trouble and need more money!

Just got an email with a bonus offer from Hashmining!  Buy 10 MH/s more mining power and get 3 MH/s free!

This is similar as if Titanic sold discounted tickets for the return journey to the passengers on the maiden trip - AFTER they hit the iceberg :D

...and my withdrawal is still "waiting" - not sure for what ;)

Call me crazy, but it looks like operation is starting under a new name: https://www.bluemining.net

Websites have rather similar layout, terms of service look the same. Don't want to burn a good initiative if it is that, but hopefully warns people to do some research before investing.

Both were anounced through (amongst others) a PR message on bitcoin.com. Both look awfully the same.....
Hashmining: https://news.bitcoin.com/hashmining-eu-cloud-mining-allows-anyone-to-mine-ethereum/
Bluemining: https://news.bitcoin.com/pr-bluemining-net-cloud-mining-allows-anyone-mine-ethereum/

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From Hasmining: https://hashmining.eu/about-us/

From Bluemining: https://www.bluemining.net/about-us/
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From Hasmining: https://www.hashmining.eu/terms-of-service/

From Bluemining: https://www.bluemining.net/terms-of-service/
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Well it genuienly looks like a defferent initiative but honestly - a one-man show driving hash mining - it has a certain Victor to it...
Here are the official data about the printshop (yeah!) that runs the service:

Onderneming Handelsnamen
  PMworks
  FVNL
  mr. Coupon
  Drukwerkstad
  Babywonder
  Bluemining

Rechtsvorm     Eenmanszaak
Startdatum onderneming   16-12-2009
Activiteiten
SBI-code: 70221 - Organisatie-adviesbureaus
SBI-code: 7311 - Reclamebureaus
SBI-code: 47918 - Detailhandel via internet in overige non-food
Werkzame personen  1
 
 
Vestiging   Vestigingsnummer  000013867075
Handelsnamen   
  PMworks
  FVNL
  mr. Coupon
  Drukwerkstad
  Babywonder
  Bluemining

Bezoekadres  Sassenstraat 37 A, 8011PB Zwolle 
Telefoonnummers
0387503535
0611244682

Internetadres  www.pmworks.nl
E-mailadres  contact@pmworks.nl
Datum vestiging  16-12-2009

Activiteiten
SBI-code: 70221 - Organisatie-adviesbureaus
SBI-code: 7311 - Reclamebureaus
SBI-code: 47918 - Detailhandel via internet in overige non-food
Bedrijfsorganisatie- en reclamebureau. Online verkoop van geslachtstesten.
Werkzame personen  1
 
 
Eigenaar  Naam
Satoor de Rootas, Jordy Armand
Geboortedatum en -plaats  25-04-1987, Zwolle
Adres  Nieuwstraat 41 212, 8011TM Zwolle
Datum in functie  16-12-2009

Maybe its just another offer - or its a Grosser puppet scenario - only time can tell - but im for sure not biting the apple...

I tried to get (Jaarrekeningen) the Annual Financial Statement to see what king of capital is behind the initiative - but not a single year available - suspicious!
...and another clue to this being related to Grosser is the obsession about titles - from the "About us"...
Headed and founded in 2017 by Chief Executive Officer, Jordy Satoor de Rootas, leads a team of experienced cloud and crypto mining engineers, analysts and developers, who are committed to transforming the use and delivery of cryptocurrencies from Europe to the globe.
Come on - this guy (Jordy) is a entrepreneur from his activities and therefore opportunistic by heart - and he just came up with the idea offering of pool-mining - on his own???
but who cares who is the CEO - the value of this kind of company is based on knowhow, structure and a good business idea - not pointing out whos the CEO (unless hes Bill Gates or Steve Jobs or some of these guys) but a NoName Grosser or Jordy) - honestly who the f.... cares - but Grosser cares - so to me the phrasing in the text could be a tell tell
I agree with xKingx - could be something fishy here - stay alert!

...after screening the content of both Hashmining and Bluemining it seems very fishy - as we all know it is important to be able to reach someone at the core to get information and answers...
On bluemining FAQ it says:
When can I reach Bluemining?
We are available from 09:00 to 17:00. You can reach us via email. You can email us 24 hours a day.
...but there are no email given anywhere...only a web-form you can fill in
It is very good spotted xKingx! I think something is cooking here

Its confirmed - Victor is behind this as well - BlueMining are all over the place with advertising and offer and promotion and what have we...

No working Social Media - no contact info - no cocept descripyion - the "mining center" photos are from Photostock...
The trust and recommendation from users:

User reviews
SCORE 5/5  Adriaan   24-07-2017
Zeer tevreden
Dit is de eerste keer voor mij dat ik in aanraking kom met mining. Het bevalt mij tot nu toe erg goed. Wekelijks zie ik mijn uitbetaling binnenkomen. Ik ga dit zeker aanraden bij mijn kennissen en vriendenkring!

What!! after few days how can you compare this to anything!?

SCORE 5/5  Ridge  29-07-2017 
Trusted
Bluemining is one of trusted cloud mining i'v been ever known... there are millions of cloud mining all over the world that offers dream to be true.. but i choose Bluemining as my cloud mining. great job 

Gibberish-dialect in English - or Grosser-ish? - what a joke!

So anyone who knows anyone that can be injured by this smock - warn them before they loose money on this scamster

Yep - like this one
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047838.0

Its really good concept and i was seeing some ethereum mining platform am using promo code BITCOINTALK2017 i will see the response after getting hash .

I dont want to get scammed again... already have bad experience with hashocean
Any indepth review of this site available?

I would say it is confirmed the same scammers are behind bluemining - I have emailed all email available to bluemining and pmworks and got one reply (with no name of sender) - then they changed the "About us" some on Bluemining - but no protest or defense or anything of the things I wrote - its another Grosser operation Im convinced - dont touch it!

Bluemining.net is hashmining.eu

Head over to https://www.bluemining.net/terms-conditions/

Read down to:
1. INFORMATION ABOUT US
1.1 We operate the site, Bluemining.net. To contact us, please see our support, info@bluemining.net.

So click on "info@bluemining.net" and guess what?
It generates an email to info@hashmining.eu

Dear Hashmining.eu please return my 20 dollars to the wallet thats saved on my profile :)
Also i knew this was a scam when i posted a neutral guestion asking about their plans for future (are they going to mine different cryptos ect). After few days the post was deleted because it apparently was hitting under the skin of hashmining.eu. How sad people are behind this site...now known as bluemining? Spread the word people!

My mate asked me what's happen with #hashmining and I just realized its another #scam...WTF. Who allowed this fuC4erS to post here this sh*T?! I thought this forum allows to advert only legit projects...

I hope that their accounts are blocked????

Thank you jgr33nwood for your efforts. I will donate!