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I consider Ethereum to be a good investment move. I see the $1000 mark by the end of this year.

exactly because
- new accounts (lots of throwaways)
- also known ethereum advertisers
say it is a good investment. and more importantly they say it in the bitcoin board to get more attention.
also because
- the price is falling
- and the volume has declined hard in the past few days
- also because of all the reasons laid out perfectly in this article: https://medium.com/@WhalePanda/i-was-wrong-about-ethereum-804c9a906d36

it means ethereum is a terrible investment.

This is Bitcoin discussion here! Wrong thread, wrong section!
And obviously done on purpose to shill that scamcoin!
Yeah right a scamcoin! Premined,infinite supply, mutable chain, highly centralized, proof of Vitalik, and with a sh**load of ICO scams on top of it which is the only use case they are having so far!

Why would you call it a scamcoin whereas its doing very good for itself? And I wasn't aware that I am publishing in the wrong sub-forum

I did buy Ethereum, and I am going to hold on to it till it reaches $1000 mark

I personally don't think it's a terrible investment, so which altcoin do you consider being the best investment?

the only thing that ethereum did good was to have its price increased! meaning profit for those who got in early. it is not doing good in any other aspect.
- it has a big premine of 70+ million which is 77% of current total supply
- it doesn't have any cap meaning it will keep on producing supply (more supply + less demand = price drop)
- it has a buggy code, it can easily be abused through smart contracts just like how DAO abused it.
- the cost of creating a smart contract is pretty high compared to other platforms. so a regular developer can not work with ethereum easily without spending a lot of money.
- the transaction costs (the fees) are rising and last time i checked they are $1.4 on average.

now you know, use the button at the bottom left side of this page called "move topic" to move it to altcoin board. :)

it is a terrible investment right now because it is in a bubble and if you read that link you can see what the risks ICOs are causing are. which means there is a much bigger risk of a big drop than there is any risk of rise.
it was certainly a very good investment before i even made a topic back when it was a good time to invest in it (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764234.0) hint: price was 0.007-0.01BTC

as for which other altcoin, any other altcoin that has not been pumped has more potential of giving profit than this.

Investors beware you are investing in a alt, and alts look promising for quiet a while, before they go bust though Ethereum has done good choosing it over bitcoin is a big risk and in the end its price will drop then there will be complaints here, I would advise you to rethink of it and stick to Bitcoins and a small amount in ether, that also I am not keen to do personally, I like Bitcoins only.

The ether is positioned not as a crypto currency, but as a platform for building decentralized applications.

In my opinion, the ether will not get much popularity as a platform for decentralized applications because of the huge volatility of all crypto-currencies. Think, 3 months ago 1ETH cost $ 20, now 20 times more expensive, this means that now to work in a decentralized application on ether, you need to spend 20 times more money. And further can be even more expensive. And imagine that someone will make a forum or social network on the ether, and in order for the user to show some kind of activity - to write a message or like a message, then he will have to pay for everything... This is insanity...

It seems like nowadays the trend is directed towards wanting a centralized leader, which is very understandable when you see the problems bitcoin is facing with decentralization. The market doesn't think too much. It used to think that decentralization was the way to go, but then problems arose, so it switched to centralization. I wonder how long it can last. I don't own ETH. Still thinking it's too late to get in the train. I was already thinking the same 2 months ago, mind you. I kind of regret my previous stance regarding ETH (cenralized = bad) but I learnt a lot about market psychology, recently, so next time I'll try to put some perspective into my own stances. It's not like I haven't learnt my lesson.

I also agree so! Ethereum will double or triple, not only increase until the end of the year but will continue to increase later. Do you have the same opinion as me? If Ethereum soars, what will happen?

I think most investors here are regretting they did not invest their money to Ethereum the time it is so cheap. They thought just like other altcoins, Ethereum will die, but it didn't. It pumps and proved that it will be following bitcoin at the top. I did invest some of my bitcoins to Ethereum, also in some ICOs that is running today.

Yup.. i know because Microsoft uses ETH.
You know it's true because YOU just got an Azure bill $$$.
Besides Butters attended a meeting that Putin was at and they spoke..
so you know... riches and ROI's & what not right ?  ;D

Did i mention IBM uses ETH too ?

I also heard "Big banks were buying shitloads"

Oh and i also heard Dark Markets were now using ETH too.

WOW eh ? So many rumors they can't all be fake can they ?
Just to be safe i better spend my life savings on 21 billion dollar premine coins.
Whats the worse that could happen ? Butters dumps more coins ? DAO ? Fork ? What ?

Where's Coindesk ? They should have an opinion on this right ?

Sorry i am busy using secure DAPP's ..no time to talk !

Remember if ethereum will have the more update about the project tu push the price of token for the investors and they can get decent profit from them. I mean the more update will make it to be real in near future.
Ethereum already planned to migrate to the pos

Whatever it is, time will tell the truth whether ethereum could reach $1000 in the end of the year or not. But current price of eth consider as top 5 altcoins which has higher price than many others. I remember in the early of this year, when ethereum price was $18 per 1 eth and today it could reach $373 USD, if I invest on that time then I must feel rich right now ;D.

why do you people always come in late?!!

learn the market flow my friends... it won't always be the same, when an altcoin rises 10 fold it doesn't mean it will continue rising 10 fold all year long every month giving the same amount of profit! it means now it is time for those who invested at the bottom months ago are cashing out to take that 10 fold profit.

now that they are doing that, you want to go in! it is like you want to lose money.

Ethereum is doing good because of lots of ICO based on ERC20 token and to exchange the token in marketplace again we need gas for transaction . Because of this ethereum gaining value . Be cautious about this ICO's.

I will wait till ETH will reach 10 000 than will probably by a house.
I can not see any other coin potentialy to reach 10k.

This can do only ETH and BTC.
But as I missed BTC train, ETH is my choice atm.

I think we will get 10k about 2020,maybe even earlier.

If you keep it you get -49.77% annualy  and risk of Ponzi crash
sold it slow and keep money in BITCOIN or $ cash

http://i.4cdn.org/biz/1497844099956.png

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/ponzischeme.asp

Short Ethereum is good investment move
2X bitcoin`s in 2 weeks

I don't think that right now is a good time to go all in with ethereum. The fact that it's still close to its all time high adds extra risk for a hard correction is cryptocurrency markets stop being bullish.

Long term, why not. The price might fall a bit now tho.

just watched a video with a creator of the etherium,  Vitalik Buterin. As he said they have no goal to make a big price, it is not only about money, they want to make this world better, but i would invest some money into this, i believe its a good product

Ethereum has partners among large international companies, so the price is quite likely to get higher. However, I've heard that there was some turmoil inside the team - some key devs have left the company, etc. Did someone see any proves about that?

all of us must thank Vitalik's great contribution ,ETH will take place BTC ,i see it

Yeah it is possible because ethereum is new bitcoin form and it is more easy. The ethereum would be new opportunity for people who missed bitcoin at the rate of cents and pennies. This is the era where people like me and you can regain that profit which other took while bitcoin was new born baby. :-)

I am wishing that ethereum really should go above  as I'm preparing for myself to invest in ethereum along with bitcoin. :-)

The single contribution is that he is controlling everything,ETH has competition from other token generating platforms and do not forget that,these fancy tokens wont keep on coming forever.So understand the reality.

Exactly why it should be avoided.
Thanks for posting that so people know to stay away.
ICO = SCAM.

Oh and Amazon shares (an actual REAL stock in a REAL stock market) is sky high price wise.
So ..whole foods merger news ? record high prices ?
Yup .NOW is the time to buy  :D

Yup you are smart "Investors"  ;D

..me i like to buy into pyramid schemes as they are about to collapse.

Oh and why not ?
Ideology ?
Damage to crypto in general ?
Losing your money ?
Looking like a scammy asshole ?

Need more NOOB ?

Please give us more trade advices stupid fucking NOOBS  ::)

I also hope the same with you but the more advanced the development of ethereum technology the more we will bear the cost of the more expensive transaction also than usual, just like bitcoin. I think the better a coin the more expensive the transaction costs. This is a bit of a constraint when transferring Hope not like bitcoin , ethereum not have alots delay transaction in the future.

Too harsh pal, let them to tell their expressions regarding on etherium and do other ICOs and investments :) We, us knowledeable to these things would reconsider on their own view and we are here to correct on what they believe but its somehow tiring to tell them how many times again and again and i would say the same things.Please do give us more trade advices stupid fucking Noobs. Hahaha

Ethereum was a good investment now, though it can be considered as high or expensive to buy it..
But if you believe that eth will become 5000$ before end of this you won't think and look the present value price
Of ethereum. Instead,  you will buy more of it then hold.

Ethereum may be a good investment in the long run, but at the current valuations the risk / reward isn't worth it IMHO. Also the ICO market appears to be heavily overvalued.

I think the same thing with you. Its future will be good yet the risk about its high price is preventing me from investing in that.

Yes that's why I think positive about Ethereum, a lot of ICO popping up using Ethereum, so I dare to invest for the benefit.

sure . Investors are moving into Entherium because Entherium is a new platform. You can create an ICO token through this platform and make a lot of profit if the ICO succeeds. I think we should switch to Entherium instead of Bitcoin

Absolutely the etherum became the medium of ICO projects because of its platform many people now are investing in the etherum besides the etherum is the number two and soon will be number one in the coin market cap so I think etherum will have the biggest pump after it will be the number one coin in terms of volume.

Ethereum is indeed one of a good investment, even though it could be said to be expensive to buy. but I believe and hope that the investment is very advantageous for you ethereum so much happening the request ultimately price will be high value,

I personally don't think that investing in Ethereum is a good move at all, most people say that its a good move since now the value goes up more oftenly. We all don't know what influences the value but there is a high possibility that the ICOs which recently took place, especially the ones which are using Ethereum platform are the ones that influence the value. So investing in Ethereum might turn out to be your worst nightmare.

Yes it is true, better buy Ethereum now and invest it because I believe Ethereum will go up.

I always remember when ethereum price still cheap like $15 per eth. Because many projects based on ethereum blockchain to collect their funds. Many people stated it as scam coin or centralized cryptocurrency and so on. But its price keep increasing and reach over $350. But, to break $400 maybe still need more time due to many people tend sell at higher peak.

I don't know. It looks like the Ethereum Foundation sold another 18 million worth a few days ago. With the nearly forty percent sell off of their holdings from this one known wallet so far this year it's not like they needed the cash. If the EF are selling off with these prices can you explain what you know that they don't? Why wouldn't they just wait for the higher value?

https://etherchain.org/account/0xde0b295669a9fd93d5f28d9ec85e40f4cb697bae#txsent

I would agree with you with that I see as Ethereum as 2nd best after Bitcoin, Ethereum has a good future ahead and many people are investing on it even myself. I'm also actually mining Eth at the moment because I see that there is a potential in this coin in the future, I also believe that many people believe on it and as you said it should hit $1000 by the end of the year like bitcoin this year it hit $2000. So the chances of it are pretty high on hitting that kind of amount after the year. So if I were you guys I would invest ETH now and you will thank me in the future. Hope it helps  ;)

Indeed most people are only fascinated by the soaring eth price boom in the end of this, so of the many people who concluded that eth is a good investment step. And they do not see the risk that will happen in the next day. The risk of eth price drop back to the original is very likely

I await his answer too.

$1,000 is too much to be honest.
I'm in dilemma about in which coin worth investing more the cash/fiat, the dilemma is between bitcoin and ethereum, the exchange rates doesn't go always the same.
Sometimes is worth more investing in bitcoin (like today) when the price was increased for 5-6% but the ethereum price went down.

I dunno. A giant correction seems imminent. Not to say Ethereum's not leading the way, but its as simple as people locking in giant profits.

looks that way to me also. i would be terrified holding eth right now. good luck to those true believers.

There's always the chance of an avalanche-like effect in price and volume with these types of price gains. Especially because ETH is competing with so many other non-ETH based ICOs at the moment.

Let's not hold our breath.

I think Entherium will lead in the coinmarket in the future. ICO projects use ETH and you can buy tokens using ETH. We should buy ETH now

Yes, Ethereum is a good investment, because if you review the movement of their price in the market you can see the big enlargement of this value. Even though there were some fall down of price I think Ethereum can handle it.

I invest in Ethereum until now, Im holding it because I beleive I can earn profit in the long run. Ethereum still been increasing its price. So buy and HODL for sure you will earn too.

TLDR: some people think Ethereum is a scam and some people think it is a great investment

Here old Ponzi scheme "investors" trying to sell his SCAM to new "investors"

I think this is the reality that it will reach more than what you expect , because in my view  the price of the ETH in two years in 400 times more than what was in the hear 2 year back . Here 100times+ price increase in the term of the ETH/BTC price and also due to increase inthe price of the Bitcoin ( 4 times more then stable price of last year ) .
Here I just invested about 0.05btc in ETH for one year because I am thinking that I will be able in the future to make 5btc at the end of the year because I am expecting the price of the ETH to rise about ten times than what is in the current time .
We'll all of this are my analysis and I told only prediction mine and my activity with the ETH , and it is the reality in the ETH that anything may happen at any point of time ( jump & dump usual thing in Bitcoin ) .

I love your Avatar and profile message.
So let me recap here..
I am suppose to care what a NOOB thinks about the scam ICO called ETHEREUM ?
When he has a scam coin avatar ?

See the topic on it in the scam section ;)

And no you can't plead ignorance either.
It's your responsibility to do your due diligence.

@shyliar
Of course.. they will simply press on ignoring any bad news / warning signs like that.
And hmm where did mining1 / Minecache / Stoat etc go ?
Notice how they vanish when bad news shows up ?
Then they re-appear to flog it when the price is needing pumped.

It just shatters my god damn mind people could support ETH the ICO and all it's never ending bullshit.
I've been calling it out since 2014 and people just ignore the "FUD" and buy more ETH.
Fuck people are stupid.. or scammy (or both)

fer teh ROI'z  :D

Yes for now it is a great investment, it's showing a great development and potential, and it got a chance to replace bitcoin if something wrong with bitcoin in the future, but can ETH win back all the trust, after the ETH forking there are so many people pessimistic about ETH, and they only considered ETH as a trading tools

Why? Oh. Nothing. Shill. The truth is ETH shot itself in the head when it forked. ETH is absolutely done when the feds roll in and begin regulating ICOs. The coin is controlled by Putin and an Autist. Now that's not to say gains can be made before then.

Recently, ETH scam is a hot topic dude :)

It seems to me that Ethereum is a bubble with all the ICOs but why not use this bubble while it's still high?

They said the recent network congestion happened because of an ICO, but there are dozen of ICO's still running or to be made, and the "congestion" will be bigger in the future.

Will the network be usable at all?

Yes, Ethereum is always a good investment because right now many ICO is being conducted with Bitcoin and Ethereum. But the demand for ETH is kept increasing and at the same time, the value of ETH is also increasing.

Ethereum is a very good investment your correct if the trend continues in all year round it will bump to the moon. Expecting that it will gonna fall but speculations on this that this is the next coin rather than bitcoin. If you have money buy ethereum today and expect on 3 years that it will fly so high that cannot imagine how it was happen.

Still waiting for answers from the OP to the questions shown above.

that's true the moment that any ico use the platform its bring hype to this coin and because of that a lots of coin project developers got attracted and use it too, for sure if this trend continue's eth will be more valuable, better to start investing little by little and forget about the bubble thing as it was been told when btc is still in his early adoption.

I think also before the end of this year 2017 the price for sure will hit 1000 dollars and those people have thousands  of  ethereum will become instant millionaire person. I hope that price will happen do we can make a lot of profiy. Base on my research ethereum is the next bitcoin because of the big potential in the future but no one can say what is the exact or what happen in this coin in the future but I hope ethereum will live for long time.

Eth's scaling problem is glaring. Right now there are 8700 transactions waiting in the queue. It looks like its already at capacity. I see this becoming a big thing and a price crash back down to 100 or less. A good time to buy in perhaps but it will create many new bagholders.

It seems that I really agree with you.Decline in eth prices will happen soon, the risk of buying eth at the end of this week will be very significant, mingkin my suggestion for them to sell eth from now, because prediction states that eth price bids will soon happen, we better save our btc in altcoin other like xrp And next may not contain the risk of loss.

yeah and it would be more as bitfinex stopped ETH withdrawals hours ago. (dont know about other exhchanges)

So much for faster transactions.. can you imagine what would happen, if eth user base grew another 50-100% now? That means its unlikely now, and ETH market cap will probably go down further. maybe the 33.68% of total crypto cap was the best it could achieve.

Many exchanges are "lagging" the progress of the ethereum rise, I have seen that coinbase has postponed the normal process of the ethereum exchange, same with few other exchanges. The user base of ethereum is keeping increasing a lot recently and I think the price will become much higher than now and probably will be doubled by the end of the year.

I think ETH will be worth about $100 year end. It has tremendous problems. It has been a "player" for 3 months.

Ethereum is growing in price and with all the icos it might be a good investment although risky one. I wouldn't put all the trust into it.

How come you reach for that conclusion for? and how did you estimate for the price would get for eth for this year? Since first of all ETH is the most used network for now and many people are holding their share on ETH community and this current situation is normally happens to a coins since it has flaws of been dump so I believe this current situation is best time for those eth stakers to buy since they can earn more with it if they hold and play on this coin.