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Title: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on May 12, 2013, 07:48:42 AM Quote Here is the currently estimated timeline, and while this is subject to change of course, it's pretty solid at this time. Completed items are crossed off: Week of January 13th Travel to packaging facility for final prep and walkthrough - Complete Confirm travel plans and trip details with lead ASIC engineer for trip to fab - Complete Week of January 20th Final assembly facility prep - In progress Week of January 26th Leave for fab/bumping facility at the end of the week KC facility starts assembly process of units to drop PCB into Units being prepped! Week of February 3rd Final chips roll off the line Arrive at Bumping facility Chips Bumped Arrive California for Packaging (May spill into following week) Chips packaged Week of February 10th Packaged chips sent to assembly house Assembled PCB is set for final testing and MCU programming Notify users to start sending their FPGA units or BTC for trade in participants Bulk assembled PCBs arrive in KC, we start dropping PCBs into waiting units Boxing/labeling for shipment We implement the 1/3 shipping plan en mass 1/3 of our assembled units will go to new orders in FIFO 1/3 of our assembled units will go to upgrade orders 1/3 will be randomly selected from both groups We descend upon the Post Office like horde of angry locust. DHL, UPS and FedEx send trucks. Not seen any updates to this have we? Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: rammy2k2 on May 12, 2013, 08:07:02 AM why do u open a topic like this ? we all know who's bfl and all that .. no need for new topic ...
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: bennybong on May 12, 2013, 08:07:10 AM ffs
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-3.html Is there much point in talking about BFL? Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on May 12, 2013, 08:09:20 AM Truth in advertising?
Nice new little itemized timeline with projected dates? Nope. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: gill83 on May 12, 2013, 08:41:20 AM Yes BFL is very reliable. Please go ahead and buy from them. :)
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: smoothie on May 12, 2013, 08:44:53 AM Yes BFL is very reliable. Please go ahead and buy from them. :) lol Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: rograz on May 12, 2013, 01:31:35 PM Yes BFL is very reliable. Please go ahead and buy from them. :) lol Any estimates done by BFL has been inaccurate, makes them kind of reliable doesn't it? ;P Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on June 11, 2013, 05:05:24 AM Hmmmm,
How is BFL doing? Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: worldinacoin on June 11, 2013, 05:06:35 AM There are a huge number of threads and posts about them. Just do a check :)
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Noogsy on June 11, 2013, 05:23:12 AM Hmmmm, How is BFL doing? Are you a necromancer ? That thread smells already. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: wrenchmonkey on June 11, 2013, 05:47:31 AM Close. He's a BFL troll. With BFL shipping faster and faster, the trolls are getting desperate...
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: notlist3d on June 11, 2013, 05:54:39 AM Close. He's a BFL troll. With BFL shipping faster and faster, the trolls are getting desperate... I want BFL to do great. I would buy if they didn't have bad track record. Shipping faster then before.... isnt saying much. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on June 11, 2013, 06:13:32 AM Close. He's a BFL troll. With BFL shipping faster and faster, the trolls are getting desperate... I want BFL to do great. I would buy if they didn't have bad track record. Shipping faster then before.... isnt saying much. http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/2139522/burn-o.gif Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Inaba on June 11, 2013, 06:17:01 AM The stench of desperation is getting pretty thick, I agree.
I'll be interested to see how irrational people like Bicknellski get when we start shipping singles this week. Ouch. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on June 11, 2013, 06:18:57 AM Shipping much yet?
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: wrenchmonkey on June 11, 2013, 06:20:14 AM The stench of desperation is getting pretty thick, I agree. I'll be interested to see how irrational people like Bicknellski get when we start shipping singles this week. Ouch. Don't do it man, he'll probably go shoot up a mall or something. Think of the lives you'll be endangering. Dude's a ticking time bomb... Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on June 11, 2013, 06:21:43 AM Didn't think so... ;D
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Inaba on June 11, 2013, 06:22:35 AM Wow, look at him go! ROFL
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Cranky4u on June 11, 2013, 06:22:47 AM The stench of desperation is getting pretty thick, I agree. I'll be interested to see how irrational people like Bicknellski get when we start shipping singles this week. Ouch. I have some orders with BFL and was wondering what the delay time between ordering a new single and shipping will be? I ordered in Apr 13...this is a serious question not a troll I divested my FPGAs in expectation of halving day and have not stopped kicking myself in the butt :( Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Inaba on June 11, 2013, 06:23:46 AM Good chance you'll have it around the end of August or Beginning of September. Possibly earlier.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Cranky4u on June 11, 2013, 06:25:08 AM Good chance you'll have it around the end of August or Beginning of September. Possibly earlier. OK..thnx...will just have to hang on then...Elec costs in Australia make anything other than FPGA ? ASIC mining un-economical as elec costs US$0.30kWh flat rate >:( Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: peetah on June 11, 2013, 06:29:47 AM Third time's a charm.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on June 11, 2013, 06:34:05 AM August? September? Possibly earlier?
Wow... words you can bank on. ;D https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7560231936/h1E3F6270/ Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on October 23, 2013, 06:10:42 AM Still waiting... 6 months behind.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: southerngentuk on October 23, 2013, 06:19:43 AM Refund denied - Still Waiting
Almost considering joining the Cloud Fu*king Ponzi Pyramid Scam Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Ytterbium on October 23, 2013, 07:48:39 AM lol
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Threader on October 23, 2013, 08:24:44 PM https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_8198.png
Good chance you'll have it around the end of August or Beginning of September. Possibly earlier. Necro Thread Just keeps reminding me what a lying parasite that worm is! Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: donch on October 23, 2013, 08:29:07 PM https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_8198.png Good chance you'll have it around the end of August or Beginning of September. Possibly earlier. Necro Thread Just keeps reminding me what lying parasite that worm is! He don't come here no more. He wise. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Xian01 on October 23, 2013, 08:35:16 PM https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_8198.png He don't come here no more. He wise.Good chance you'll have it around the end of August or Beginning of September. Possibly earlier. Necro Thread Just keeps reminding me what lying parasite that worm is!It seems he only comes around here to bid on forum advertising, lately. Besides, I'm sure him saying you'd have your orders by August or September was just another in a long line of well-documented "mistakes". I can't imagine Josh or anyone involved with Butterfly Labs would intentionally lie like that... Edit: just noticed your .sig. I do believe this qualifies as fair use https://i.imgur.com/6krCgnd.jpg Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: donch on October 23, 2013, 08:38:18 PM https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_8198.png He don't come here no more. He wise.Good chance you'll have it around the end of August or Beginning of September. Possibly earlier. Necro Thread Just keeps reminding me what lying parasite that worm is!It seems he only comes around here to bid on forum advertising, lately. Besides, I'm sure him saying you'd have your orders by August or September was just another in a long line of well-documented "mistakes". I'd really appreciate one last cameo appearance from him, just for old time's sake. It's just not the same with cypherdoc; he's not even paid for his wisdom. Come on Josh, tell us all again, unequivocally, what monumental assholes we are. Please. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Douchee_bag on October 23, 2013, 08:54:18 PM They were always just estimates. Anyhow you are all monumental assholes for believing it to be fact.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: donch on October 23, 2013, 10:31:01 PM I love it when a good trolling comes together.
Seriously, Josh, we miss you. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 24, 2013, 03:05:31 AM I asked them for a refund having ordered in March then April like a lot of other people to be told that all back orders would be cleared by August.
Still waiting in October and after asking for a refund the fucktards put my orders on hold then refused to refund me so yeah they're basically scammers as well as lying arsewipes. Looks like ill have to initiate court action to even get my money back now. How they haven't got a scammer tag yet I'll never know. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 24, 2013, 03:06:41 AM I got the refund denied too but to top that off they put the orders on hold too.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on October 24, 2013, 08:57:31 AM The stench of desperation is getting pretty thick, I agree. I'll be interested to see how irrational people like Bicknellski get when we start shipping singles this week. Ouch. "Cough desperation COUGH!" 6 months behind shipping in October 2013... O U C H! There is a stench... BFL products dying before they ship. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: goxed on October 24, 2013, 09:30:41 AM I asked them for a refund having ordered in March then April like a lot of other people to be told that all back orders would be cleared by August. Still waiting in October and after asking for a refund the fucktards put my orders on hold then refused to refund me so yeah they're basically scammers as well as lying arsewipes. Looks like ill have to initiate court action to even get my money back now. How they haven't got a scammer tag yet I'll never know. Are they based in KS or MO? One has to choose the correct court. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on October 24, 2013, 09:40:58 AM I asked them for a refund having ordered in March then April like a lot of other people to be told that all back orders would be cleared by August. Still waiting in October and after asking for a refund the fucktards put my orders on hold then refused to refund me so yeah they're basically scammers as well as lying arsewipes. Looks like ill have to initiate court action to even get my money back now. How they haven't got a scammer tag yet I'll never know. Are they based in KS or MO? One has to choose the correct court. KS. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: goxed on October 24, 2013, 10:04:46 AM I asked them for a refund having ordered in March then April like a lot of other people to be told that all back orders would be cleared by August. Still waiting in October and after asking for a refund the fucktards put my orders on hold then refused to refund me so yeah they're basically scammers as well as lying arsewipes. Looks like ill have to initiate court action to even get my money back now. How they haven't got a scammer tag yet I'll never know. Are they based in KS or MO? One has to choose the correct court. KS. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on October 24, 2013, 02:24:08 PM I asked them for a refund having ordered in March then April like a lot of other people to be told that all back orders would be cleared by August. Still waiting in October and after asking for a refund the fucktards put my orders on hold then refused to refund me so yeah they're basically scammers as well as lying arsewipes. Looks like ill have to initiate court action to even get my money back now. How they haven't got a scammer tag yet I'll never know. Are they based in KS or MO? One has to choose the correct court. KS. You are most welcome. Good luck filing hope it goes well. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Threader on October 24, 2013, 03:30:18 PM I got the refund denied too but to top that off they put the orders on hold too. How low can they go? http://www.tropical-ents.co.uk/photos/t_limbo2.jpg BFL are the kings of BTC limbo dance shenanigans! Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 24, 2013, 09:53:19 PM Since BFL are now brazenly refusing refunds then holding orders, should bitcointalk be giving them a scammer tag.
I'm pretty sure stealing people's money and refusing to ship orders qualifies them for one, shipping delays are bad enough but actually refusing to send purchased items AND keeping the money?? Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: southerngentuk on October 25, 2013, 12:05:32 AM Since BFL are now brazenly refusing refunds then holding orders, should bitcointalk be giving them a scammer tag. I'm pretty sure stealing people's money and refusing to ship orders qualifies them for one, shipping delays are bad enough but actually refusing to send purchased items AND keeping the money?? Not going to happen all the time there supporting the forums with advertising. It's all so wrong >:( Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 25, 2013, 12:16:10 AM Since BFL are now brazenly refusing refunds then holding orders, should bitcointalk be giving them a scammer tag. I'm pretty sure stealing people's money and refusing to ship orders qualifies them for one, shipping delays are bad enough but actually refusing to send purchased items AND keeping the money?? Not going to happen all the time there supporting the forums with advertising. It's all so wrong >:( Didn't some of the other advertisers like Tom Van Riper get scammer tags eventually, or is bitcointalk owned by BFL? or have they spent so much money here that they practically have shares in bitcointalk. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: DeathAndTaxes on October 25, 2013, 12:17:56 AM I doubt they have "shares" but take a look at the auction thread. BFL spend 10+ BTC per slot for 4 to 6 slots per week every week.
Say 50 BTC per week or 2,500 BTC per year. I guess 2,500 BTC buys you immunity. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Inaba on October 25, 2013, 12:23:32 AM You know.. that or the fact that BFL is actually delivering product and has delivered more product than everyone else combined several times over. Yeah... one or the other. Gosh I wonder which one.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: donch on October 25, 2013, 12:27:40 AM You know.. that or the fact that BFL is actually delivering product and has delivered more product than everyone else combined several times over. Yeah... one or the other. Gosh I wonder which one. Or, you know... the fact that you delivered products so late that they had become redundant... or the fact that you denied refunds... or the fact you delivered goods to people who were lucky enough to get a Paypal refund... or the fact that you sold more than you could deliver within your own personal fantasy timelines... Yeah, scammer. Glad you're back though. P.S. KNC gave me a full refund after being 16 days late. And they have delivered more hashrate than BFL ever will. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Threader on October 25, 2013, 12:30:45 AM Delivery product is a convenient smoke screen! Do you think KnC could deliver their October 2013 schedule product in June 2014? How about HashFast or Bitfury 6-9 months late. Don't think so...
Keep hanging your hats on the slogan "delivering product" Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 25, 2013, 12:38:52 AM You know.. that or the fact that BFL is actually delivering product and has delivered more product than everyone else combined several times over. Yeah... one or the other. Gosh I wonder which one. Yeah all except mine and you're apparently keeping my money too. Way to go BFL!Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: DeathAndTaxes on October 25, 2013, 12:43:11 AM You know.. that or the fact that BFL is actually delivering product and has delivered more product than everyone else combined several times over. Yeah... one or the other. Gosh I wonder which one. You do know that is not even possible. Bitfury pool is >0.5 PH/s. Total delivered unknown but obviously >0.5 PH/s. KNC has delivered ~3000 units or ~1 PH/s. Total network hashrate is ~3 PH/s. So even if the entire network consisted of nothing more than BFL + Bitfury + KNC = 3 PH/s it is no longer possible for you to have delivered more than all other vendors combined and certainly not a magnitude (10x) more. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: donch on October 25, 2013, 12:47:35 AM You know.. that or the fact that BFL is actually delivering product and has delivered more product than everyone else combined several times over. Yeah... one or the other. Gosh I wonder which one. You do know that is not even possible. Bitfury pool is >0.5 PH/s. Total delivered unknown but obviously >0.5 PH/s. KNC has delivered ~3000 units or ~1 PH/s. Total network hashrate is ~3 PH/s. So even if the entire network consisted of nothing more than BFL + Bitfury + KNC = 3 PH/s it is no longer possible for you to have delivered more than all other vendors combined and certainly not a magnitude (10x) more. Why speak facts to someone who can't do: two weeks + two weeks != two weeks. DeathAndTaxes, I'd really love it if you could explain to Joshua how bitcoin works. He's had difficulty (sic) with that too. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Inaba on October 25, 2013, 12:49:37 AM It's very easy. BFL has delivered more than 20k mining devices and have more to go. Bitfury has not delivered any significant quantity of devices, nor has Avalon. ASICminer is the only one that has delivered any sort of significant quantity of devices at this point, and all of those are Block Eruptors, which are basically meaningless. I wasn't aware KNC was up to 3000 units shipped, is that figure accurate? Fairly impressive but it's only 3000 units.
As far as hashrate goes, I'd say at least 50% of the the hashrate on the network is currently powered by BFL chips, but I haven't actually added it up lately, so I may be incorrect about that. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: donch on October 25, 2013, 12:57:21 AM It's very easy. BFL has delivered more than 20k mining devices and have more to go. Bitfury has not delivered any significant quantity of devices, nor has Avalon. ASICminer is the only one that has delivered any sort of significant quantity of devices at this point, and all of those are Block Eruptors, which are basically meaningless. I wasn't aware KNC was up to 3000 units shipped, is that figure accurate? Fairly impressive but it's only 3000 units. As far as hashrate goes, I'd say at least 50% of the the hashrate on the network is currently powered by BFL chips, but I haven't actually added it up lately, so I may be incorrect about that. Joshua, the facts: You've taken over a year to build 20,000 devices which seemed attractive up until 6 months ago. I expected mine back in October 2012. Now they are redundant and you and your company have taken no responsibility to deliver what you promised, that is timely units of hashpower. The fact that you are still delivering this useless crap proves you have no concept of what your customers needs are. At every turn you've done everything in your power to stop people getting their money back, through various up-selling bullshit manoeuvres (Monarch, sell on the forum with added fees, chip credits, future purchase discounts, hosting). You tried (and failed) to reverse Paypal refunds. You're a fraud. It's simple. KNC delivered timely, useful equipment and treated their customers with respect. They win. You fail. And if you can't work out how to operate a spreadsheet in a chiefly fashion to add up your delivered hashrate, then you need a new job. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 25, 2013, 12:57:54 AM It's very easy. BFL has delivered more than 20k mining devices and have more to go. Bitfury has not delivered any significant quantity of devices, nor has Avalon. ASICminer is the only one that has delivered any sort of significant quantity of devices at this point, and all of those are Block Eruptors, which are basically meaningless. I wasn't aware KNC was up to 3000 units shipped, is that figure accurate? Fairly impressive but it's only 3000 units. Nice story and what about the people you refused to refund or supply the products they'd ordered.As far as hashrate goes, I'd say at least 50% of the the hashrate on the network is currently powered by BFL chips, but I haven't actually added it up lately, so I may be incorrect about that. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Xian01 on October 25, 2013, 01:08:01 AM It's very easy. BFL has delivered more than 20k mining devices and have more to go. ... https://i.imgur.com/Q1xT1s4.png As far as hashrate goes, I'd say at least 50% of the the hashrate on the network is currently powered by BFL chips, but I haven't actually added it up lately, so I may be incorrect about that. You're incorrect about a lot of things... Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 25, 2013, 01:12:11 AM Strange how he never directly addresses why they are not refunding orders and how they are keeping the money if you request one and putting your orders on hold.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 25, 2013, 01:12:55 AM Strange how he never directly addresses why they are not refunding orders and how they are keeping the money if you request one and putting your orders on hold. What am I talking about, it's not strange at all :-STitle: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: DeathAndTaxes on October 25, 2013, 01:14:19 AM It's very easy. BFL has delivered more than 20k mining devices and have more to go. Bitfury has not delivered any significant quantity of devices, nor has Avalon. ASICminer is the only one that has delivered any sort of significant quantity of devices at this point, and all of those are Block Eruptors, which are basically meaningless. I wasn't aware KNC was up to 3000 units shipped, is that figure accurate? Fairly impressive but it's only 3000 units. So which is it units or GH/s? If units then excluding ASICMiner is nonsense. I mean why not units smaller than 175 GH/s and BFL will have shipped 0. Looking at all shipped units you are incorrect. If it is GH/s then 3,000 KNC units is more than a PH/s. There is no way you have shipped a magnitude more hashpower than all vendors. So looking at hashpower you are incorrect. Either way you are incorrect. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Xian01 on October 25, 2013, 01:15:07 AM Strange how he never directly addresses why they are not refunding orders and how they are keeping the money if you request one and putting your orders on hold. Do you honestly think he would incriminate himself, and confess to blatantly and flagrantly violating FTC regulations with respect to refunds ? Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Syke on October 25, 2013, 01:16:03 AM It's very easy. BFL has delivered more than 20k mining devices and have more to go. Bitfury has not delivered any significant quantity of devices, nor has Avalon. ASICminer is the only one that has delivered any sort of significant quantity of devices at this point, and all of those are Block Eruptors, which are basically meaningless. Are Block Eruptors mining devices or not? Have they shipped more of them than you? I'd wager they have. You lie. Again. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 25, 2013, 01:22:41 AM Strange how he never directly addresses why they are not refunding orders and how they are keeping the money if you request one and putting your orders on hold. Do you honestly think he would incriminate himself, and confess to blatantly and flagrantly violating FTC regulations with respect to refunds ? Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: southerngentuk on October 25, 2013, 02:06:58 AM You know.. that or the fact that BFL is actually delivering product and has delivered more product than everyone else combined several times over. Yeah... one or the other. Gosh I wonder which one. Inaba - look in the group buy section for julz, send him 6.6 btc and cancel my order. You can keep the change, and I'll have my GH by Monday. BFL = Fail Edit : That's half the price of BFL Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 25, 2013, 02:12:18 AM You know.. that or the fact that BFL is actually delivering product and has delivered more product than everyone else combined several times over. Yeah... one or the other. Gosh I wonder which one. Inaba - look in the group buy section for julz, send him 6.6 btc and cancel my order. You can keep the change, and I'll have my GH by Monday. BFL = Fail Edit : That's half the price of BFL If you ask for a refund they cancel your order and keep your money nowadays. Wow there's an advert for BFL above the post. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: southerngentuk on October 25, 2013, 02:23:46 AM I have asked for refund, but have not been canceled, yet, am working on it though.
Inaba, where's my refund - your a fraud. Your a failure. I have lawfully requested a refund and you have unlawfully denied it. You are a theft and a lair. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 25, 2013, 02:43:56 AM Hope you have more luck than I did.
They really deserve that scammer tag now. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 25, 2013, 03:15:19 AM Inaba is long gone now, can huff and puff but can't answer questions about why they're ripping off the people who believed in them and gave them money up front only to be shafted again and again.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: southerngentuk on October 25, 2013, 03:53:52 AM He'll be back..
in 2 weeks ;D Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on October 25, 2013, 08:05:40 AM So let us see he is proud of the fact he is DELIVERING a product.
Delivering and backlogged 6 months and most if not alll deliveries were late by not days, weeks but multiple months, based on his personal statements about the dates anticipated for delivery, and to a degree that is going to leave many unable to recovery their initial investment. BFL is definitely not a reliable company. Inaba yet again making statements without EVIDENCE to support it. 1. When will the Monarch chip tape out be completed? (2 months or more late or not at all) 2. How many units have you delivered late based on your promises? (100% of the units were late) 3. Why do you not REFUND people who ask based on FTC requirements? (Lack of integrity) 4. Evidence to support your claims for production? (None) At this point Inaba has 0 credibility and given what has happened BFL is really at this point the must unreliable company producing and delay shipping miners in this community. Effectively anyone who doesn't know what BFL has failed to provide should be told point blank DO NOT BUY FROM BFL. There are 100's of complaints at this point and that only means that BFL as a company is woefully inept to get that much negative feedback. Just avoid BFL they are unreliable. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Unacceptable on October 25, 2013, 08:42:32 AM Holy shit!!!!!!! I just looked at the BFL blog....they are still 6 months behind,not 6 weeks or 6 days but 6 MONTHS :o :o :o :o How incompetent can they be :o :o :o :o
Those 65nm units are worthless in 2 months..at best ::) Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Ytterbium on October 25, 2013, 08:52:36 AM You know.. that or the fact that BFL is actually delivering product and has delivered more product than everyone else combined several times over. Yeah... one or the other. Gosh I wonder which one. Lol, how many block erupters has Freidcat sold, again? You keep saying that, without ever providing any evidence whatsoever. KnC Shipped more hashrate then you in Two WeeksTM then you have in your entire existence. Thanks for all the extra profit I made off my Avalon due to you shipping so late. I made a ton of money off of your failure! Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: southerngentuk on October 25, 2013, 09:03:28 AM Hey Ytterbium
Some of that profit was mine. Please send it to >>>>> 1DonoNEqb1wWMss1zrsb5JsXpsbQQzVU3P Thanks ;D Seriously thou https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/ (https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/) doesn't work for me. Is it cus am outside the US >:( Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: johnyj on October 25, 2013, 01:02:27 PM At least their rigs are reliable, been running for weeks without stop ;)
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on October 25, 2013, 02:19:44 PM At least their rigs are reliable, been running for weeks without stop ;) Reliable? Interesting is that based on your rig alone or actual stats from those that finally received units nearly a year late? Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Tehfiend on October 25, 2013, 08:25:49 PM It's very easy. BFL has delivered more than 20k mining devices and have more to go. Bitfury has not delivered any significant quantity of devices, nor has Avalon. ASICminer is the only one that has delivered any sort of significant quantity of devices at this point, and all of those are Block Eruptors, which are basically meaningless. I wasn't aware KNC was up to 3000 units shipped, is that figure accurate? Fairly impressive but it's only 3000 units. As far as hashrate goes, I'd say at least 50% of the the hashrate on the network is currently powered by BFL chips, but I haven't actually added it up lately, so I may be incorrect about that. HAHAHAHAHAHA oh man this is good stuff. It's such complete bullshit I can't even bring myself to take the time to refute it because it's just so over the top ridiculous. Man I really gotta give Josh credit for showing his face here again. I figured after KNC dropped their 1+ PHASH bomb in a little over 4 months that he would crawl under his rock and never be seen here again. THere's just so many of his quotes on record and so much empirical evidence that completely and undeniably refutes so many things that's come out of his mouth it's amazing. I think he really takes the crown from the Iraqi Information Minister, this is top notch stuff right here... BRAVO BRAVO! At least Yufi has been smart enough to focus on his business and seems to be attempting to repair his rep... Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: philips on October 25, 2013, 08:34:07 PM At least their rigs are reliable, been running for weeks without stop ;) I agree, they just keep going, I only stop them when upgrading cgminer. But then again, I don’t have any other ASIC hardware, so I cant make a real comparison... Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Xian01 on October 25, 2013, 10:37:51 PM I think he really takes the crown from the Iraqi Information Minister, this is top notch stuff right here... BRAVO BRAVO! http://cdn.meme.li/i/pahsp.jpg Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: fiddelingones on October 25, 2013, 10:41:46 PM It's very easy. BFL has delivered more than 20k mining devices and have more to go. Bitfury has not delivered any significant quantity of devices, nor has Avalon. ASICminer is the only one that has delivered any sort of significant quantity of devices at this point, and all of those are Block Eruptors, which are basically meaningless. I wasn't aware KNC was up to 3000 units shipped, is that figure accurate? Fairly impressive but it's only 3000 units. As far as hashrate goes, I'd say at least 50% of the the hashrate on the network is currently powered by BFL chips, but I haven't actually added it up lately, so I may be incorrect about that. HAHAHAHAHAHA oh man this is good stuff. It's such complete bullshit I can't even bring myself to take the time to refute it because it's just so over the top ridiculous. Man I really gotta give Josh credit for showing his face here again. I figured after KNC dropped their 1+ PHASH bomb in a little over 4 months that he would crawl under his rock and never be seen here again. THere's just so many of his quotes on record and so much empirical evidence that completely and undeniably refutes so many things that's come out of his mouth it's amazing. I think he really takes the crown from the Iraqi Information Minister, this is top notch stuff right here... BRAVO BRAVO! At least Yufi has been smart enough to focus on his business and seems to be attempting to repair his rep... Might be true, BFL delivered a lot of FPGAs mining devices in the past... Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 26, 2013, 12:06:13 AM At least their rigs are reliable, been running for weeks without stop ;) How the fuck would we know we most of us didn't get ours and when we asked for a refund they kept the money and the rigs.Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Inaba on October 26, 2013, 12:08:02 AM And... another ~1000 units shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: donch on October 26, 2013, 12:17:21 AM And... another ~1000 units shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day. Without a photo of a 1000 USPS boxes, it didn't happen. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 26, 2013, 12:22:30 AM And... another ~1000 units shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day. And what are you doing with all the ones people paid for but you kept as well as their money??Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Xian01 on October 26, 2013, 12:23:17 AM And... another ~1000 units shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day. Are you seriously that stupid, egocentric, delusional, lacking in self awareness, and insane to have just made a comparison with a company that has only recently started shipping product, and you were supposed to start shipping volume almost twelve months ago ? ** I don't like to stoop to this base level of discourse, but with Joshua Zerlan, COO of Butterfly Labs, it is fully warranted and justified given his history on these forums. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Syke on October 26, 2013, 12:32:34 AM And... another ~1000 units shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day. It only took you 6 months to ramp up to the number of units KnC ramped up to in two weeks. WTG!!! Also, those KnC units are faster than your Minirigs. How many Minirigs did you ship in that day? Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 26, 2013, 12:32:51 AM Who do you contact to request someone be given a scammer tag?
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Tehfiend on October 26, 2013, 12:39:03 AM And... another ~1000 units shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day. Are you seriously that stupid, egocentric, delusional, lacking in self awareness, and insane to have just made a comparison with a company that has only recently started shipping product, and you were supposed to start shipping volume almost twelve months ago ? ** I don't like to stoop to this base level of discourse, but with Joshua Zerlan, COO of Butterfly Labs, it is fully warranted and justified given his history on these forums. Xian01 save your breath he knows all of this. He knows it would be silly for ASICminer to come and brag about all of the worthless 300mhash block erupters they have shipped which is basically what he is doing. His posts are not for people paying attention and know that KNC is almost done shipping all of the 500GH units ordered in June while he is shipping 5GH units ordered who knows how long ago. He is just trying to post FUD for people that see his ads who are not sure who to believe. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: southerngentuk on October 26, 2013, 01:00:07 AM Let me help you out here..
And... another ~1000 unwanted doorstops shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... @ 5 times the price per GH in just one day. Look how much better we are at screwing our customers than KNC. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: ScaryHash on October 26, 2013, 01:12:41 AM It's always interesting to see the BFL shills come out.
1000 units today only? What about the other 8 months of backlog that you will not compensate people for late shipping? And, for the record, yes, I am a recovering BFL sucker. Still waiting for my Jalepenos...which will probably ship when the hashing power they provide is totally worthless, not even by next week. I honestly cannot fathom how this company is still in business. 9+ months of waiting for a product? That's just ridiculous. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Xian01 on October 26, 2013, 01:27:46 AM Who do you contact to request someone be given a scammer tag? Butterfly Labs has made substantial advertising contributions to Theymos, estimated near 2,500 BTC, and have effectively earned themselves immunity on these forums from official sanction. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 26, 2013, 01:34:36 AM Who do you contact to request someone be given a scammer tag? Butterfly Labs has made substantial advertising contributions to Theymos, estimated near 2,500 BTC, and have effectively earned themselves immunity on these forums from official sanction. Capitalism is King as well as corrupt ;-) Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: southerngentuk on October 26, 2013, 01:51:03 AM Capitalism is King as well as corrupt ;-) Which is the very reason a lot of us our here, as we dislike the banking/corporation greed and inspire to a system of trust and honesty, in money at least. Shipping G/H's of miners that are now economically redundant is just increasing hash rate for the sake of company profits and harmful to bitcoin as it removes incentive. Most miners at this stage are choosing there purchases extremely carefully (if at all), however bfl's cost per G/H is now involuntary for most. BFL's reckless business model is based greed and arrogance. Cue Inaba to tell us how we don't understand how bitcoin works. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: balanghai on October 26, 2013, 01:53:16 AM Reliable as grass?
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 26, 2013, 02:30:43 AM Capitalism is King as well as corrupt ;-) Which is the very reason a lot of us our here, as we dislike the banking/corporation greed and inspire to a system of trust and honesty, in money at least. Shipping G/H's of miners that are now economically redundant is just increasing hash rate for the sake of company profits and harmful to bitcoin as it removes incentive. Most miners at this stage are choosing there purchases extremely carefully (if at all), however bfl's cost per G/H is now involuntary for most. BFL's reckless business model is based greed and arrogance. Cue Inaba to tell us how we don't understand how bitcoin works. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on October 26, 2013, 08:15:43 AM And... another ~1000 units shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day. 1000 units? Evidence? Tape out / design for Monarch Chip? Evidence? Refunds? People are waiting given they have a legal right you should be providing REFUNDS. Unreliable. Do not buy from BFL. Seriously I wonder at what point in time does the AG in KS determine what BFL is doing is fraud? Quote Fraud is commonly understood as dishonesty calculated for advantage. A person who is dishonest may be called a fraud. In the U.S. legal system, fraud is a specific offense with certain features. Fraud must be proved by showing that the defendant's actions involved five separate elements: (1) a false statement of a material fact,(2) knowledge on the part of the defendant that the statement is untrue, (3) intent on the part of the defendant to deceive the alleged victim, (4) justifiable reliance by the alleged victim on the statement, and (5) injury to the alleged victim as a result. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fraud Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on October 30, 2013, 10:39:29 AM And... another ~1000 units shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day. Are you seriously that stupid, egocentric, delusional, lacking in self awareness, and insane to have just made a comparison with a company that has only recently started shipping product, and you were supposed to start shipping volume almost twelve months ago ? ** I don't like to stoop to this base level of discourse, but with Joshua Zerlan, COO of Butterfly Labs, it is fully warranted and justified given his history on these forums. I vote for seriously that stupid or purposefully obtuse. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: User705 on October 30, 2013, 09:58:06 PM And... another ~1000 units shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day. Why you are able to ship 1000 units today but couldn't do so a month or two ago? What could possibly have changed in actual production?Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on October 31, 2013, 05:49:47 AM And... another ~1000 units shipped today. 1/3 of the entirety of KnC's shipment... in one day. Why you are able to ship 1000 units today but couldn't do so a month or two ago? What could possibly have changed in actual production?Nothing... just turned off 1000 they were mining with and repackaged them for shipping out. Guessing. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 31, 2013, 11:33:47 AM I've asked them to ship mine now, but guess what. No response what a surprise.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Bicknellski on October 31, 2013, 12:45:16 PM I've asked them to ship mine now, but guess what. No response what a surprise. Start a refund somehow... good luck. Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: th3joker on October 31, 2013, 12:56:40 PM They said no then put my orders on hold. I asked them to ship them instead and they won't reply, nice ethics there.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: faetos on October 31, 2013, 01:35:18 PM You know, nothing drives posts in a thread like an Inaba post.
Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Xian01 on October 31, 2013, 01:48:07 PM You know, nothing drives posts in a thread like an Inaba post. http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/k9l5-13-a577.png Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: Threader on October 31, 2013, 02:21:32 PM The threads Incubus was referring to were not yet the kind "BFL WILL ROB YOU BLIND BEWARE" threads.
No one can be that dense to look at these current threads and think BFL is a place to throw money at. That quote shows Incubus's deceptive thinking but are dated to the current debacle that BFL is. You know, nothing drives posts in a thread like an Inaba post. http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/k9l5-13-a577.png Title: Re: BFL Reliable? Post by: faetos on November 01, 2013, 03:13:03 AM The threads Incubus was referring to were not yet the kind "BFL WILL ROB YOU BLIND BEWARE" threads. I guess in his mind any publicity is good publicity even when the threads include "fucks over again, class action, etc." Odd business strategy in my opinion. I guess it's the same publicity and sell strategy as the likes of Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian. I would think threads with names like "these ASICs rock!, I love _insert_ASIC_manufacturer_here_, etc" would drive more sales. As long as dumb money is still out there these types will cash in. OK, I'll go back to writing bots now. "sigh" No one can be that dense to look at these current threads and think BFL is a place to throw money at. That quote shows Incubus's deceptive thinking but are dated to the current debacle that BFL is. You know, nothing drives posts in a thread like an Inaba post. http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/k9l5-13-a577.png |
