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Title: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: thejaytiesto on July 20, 2017, 01:47:29 PM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: hotpassion on July 20, 2017, 02:01:00 PM
I suppose this time, the price of BTC will reach around $2900 then reduce a bit for a small correction. I regret I didn't buy btc last week when it's just $2100. Now I will have to wait for it go back to lower price. If the price keep rising and rising, I suppose I will miss the BTC train again...


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: 1Referee on July 20, 2017, 02:02:10 PM
It all depends on whether or not we manage to see Segwit gets locked-in within current period. If it happens, I am quite confident that we'll at least make an attempt to break through the $3000 level in the coming 24 or so hours. We already experienced some sort of a false ATH not that long ago, but in order to settle as a proper ATH, the entire market needs to follow. I wonder what all those sub $2000 dumpers are thinking right now - they likely don't share people's excitement here. :D


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: thejaytiesto on July 20, 2017, 02:34:13 PM
It all depends on whether or not we manage to see Segwit gets locked-in within current period. If it happens, I am quite confident that we'll at least make an attempt to break through the $3000 level in the coming 24 or so hours. We already experienced some sort of a false ATH not that long ago, but in order to settle as a proper ATH, the entire market needs to follow. I wonder what all those sub $2000 dumpers are thinking right now - they likely don't share people's excitement here. :D

The signaling for BIP91 is currently projected to be locked in during this period:

http://image.ibb.co/g3m4n5/bip91.png

There are still some miners that aren't signaling yet so once Slush signals for it then it's on and we'll go $3000+ easy, we'll have some really good bitcoin months. We'll see how alts do with a very strong bitcoin.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: DaMut on July 20, 2017, 02:56:36 PM
It all depends on whether or not we manage to see Segwit gets locked-in within current period. If it happens, I am quite confident that we'll at least make an attempt to break through the $3000 level in the coming 24 or so hours. We already experienced some sort of a false ATH not that long ago, but in order to settle as a proper ATH, the entire market needs to follow. I wonder what all those sub $2000 dumpers are thinking right now - they likely don't share people's excitement here. :D

The signaling for BIP91 is currently projected to be locked in during this period:

http://image.ibb.co/g3m4n5/bip91.png

There are still some miners that aren't signaling yet so once Slush signals for it then it's on and we'll go $3000+ easy, we'll have some really good bitcoin months. We'll see how alts do with a very strong bitcoin.

3000$ dollars are easy for Bitcoin to reach it,it can be happen in the next month or even next week,
but the question is,will it be an asset which is always increasing instead of decreasing in value like before ?

if it's too volatile and keep going like that,doesn't that mean someone will lose it and someone will gain it ?
and for those who's not lucky enough and keep losing on it,doesn't that mean he'll get out from this and every people who's losing on it will get away from this which is make this asset become unpopular?

let's hope it would be the best asset and no matter who's losing on it will always keep trying and support this.

PS : if my prediction is correct,we should see it in 1 august or 30 july.we can see another ATH in the next week.



Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Zicadis on July 20, 2017, 03:29:20 PM
I suppose this time, the price of BTC will reach around $2900 then reduce a bit for a small correction.
Just like many other users am actually counting on bitcoin to break the $3000 resistance and stay over this price not below!

I regret I didn't buy btc last week when it's just $2100. Now I will have to wait for it go back to lower price.
The dip was actually slightly lower than $1900 and most people didn't see this as an opportunity to lock onto some cheap bitcoins. Am hoping it doesnt drop this low again because it's delaying our MOON prices

If the price keep rising and rising, I suppose I will miss the BTC train again...
why not buy now so that you do not miss the BTC train. We very much know that there is no wrong or right time to buy bitcoins so before we head over $3000 which is coming soon its now or never my friend.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: thejaytiesto on July 20, 2017, 03:29:39 PM
It all depends on whether or not we manage to see Segwit gets locked-in within current period. If it happens, I am quite confident that we'll at least make an attempt to break through the $3000 level in the coming 24 or so hours. We already experienced some sort of a false ATH not that long ago, but in order to settle as a proper ATH, the entire market needs to follow. I wonder what all those sub $2000 dumpers are thinking right now - they likely don't share people's excitement here. :D

The signaling for BIP91 is currently projected to be locked in during this period:

http://image.ibb.co/g3m4n5/bip91.png

There are still some miners that aren't signaling yet so once Slush signals for it then it's on and we'll go $3000+ easy, we'll have some really good bitcoin months. We'll see how alts do with a very strong bitcoin.

3000$ dollars are easy for Bitcoin to reach it,it can be happen in the next month or even next week,
but the question is,will it be an asset which is always increasing instead of decreasing in value like before ?

if it's too volatile and keep going like that,doesn't that mean someone will lose it and someone will gain it ?
and for those who's not lucky enough and keep losing on it,doesn't that mean he'll get out from this and every people who's losing on it will get away from this which is make this asset become unpopular?

let's hope it would be the best asset and no matter who's losing on it will always keep trying and support this.

PS : if my prediction is correct,we should see it in 1 august or 30 july.we can see another ATH in the next week.



Bitcoin has only gone up since it started. If you can hold and sell then that's your problem, I never sold and im up bigtime. I could have sold in the big crash to $400 in august last year but I held. You can't bitch and complain because volatility happens in small marketcaps. $40 billion is nothing, this should make you happy because the growth potential is huge. Until BTC is like 6 figures we'll never stop seeing volatility but that's ok as long as we keep making higher floors. It's all about setting higher floors, everything else is just noise.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: azguard on July 20, 2017, 06:27:48 PM
Quite possible we could go and hit 3k this weekend or after. We are gonna go over it this time and possible like some topic here predicted and over 3500. My only concern on this is possible splitting chains. Hope that this wont be the case and that we can enjoy in so waited and anticipated rise.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: DaMut on July 20, 2017, 08:04:09 PM
It all depends on whether or not we manage to see Segwit gets locked-in within current period. If it happens, I am quite confident that we'll at least make an attempt to break through the $3000 level in the coming 24 or so hours. We already experienced some sort of a false ATH not that long ago, but in order to settle as a proper ATH, the entire market needs to follow. I wonder what all those sub $2000 dumpers are thinking right now - they likely don't share people's excitement here. :D

The signaling for BIP91 is currently projected to be locked in during this period:

http://image.ibb.co/g3m4n5/bip91.png

There are still some miners that aren't signaling yet so once Slush signals for it then it's on and we'll go $3000+ easy, we'll have some really good bitcoin months. We'll see how alts do with a very strong bitcoin.

3000$ dollars are easy for Bitcoin to reach it,it can be happen in the next month or even next week,
but the question is,will it be an asset which is always increasing instead of decreasing in value like before ?

if it's too volatile and keep going like that,doesn't that mean someone will lose it and someone will gain it ?
and for those who's not lucky enough and keep losing on it,doesn't that mean he'll get out from this and every people who's losing on it will get away from this which is make this asset become unpopular?

let's hope it would be the best asset and no matter who's losing on it will always keep trying and support this.

PS : if my prediction is correct,we should see it in 1 august or 30 july.we can see another ATH in the next week.



Bitcoin has only gone up since it started. If you can hold and sell then that's your problem, I never sold and im up bigtime. I could have sold in the big crash to $400 in august last year but I held. You can't bitch and complain because volatility happens in small marketcaps. $40 billion is nothing, this should make you happy because the growth potential is huge. Until BTC is like 6 figures we'll never stop seeing volatility but that's ok as long as we keep making higher floors. It's all about setting higher floors, everything else is just noise.

well i am not bitching and complaining about volatility,
but i am afraid because of that many people will get angry and frustrasted (which is many friend was one of them and they gave up trading it or using it  . They used their saving in order to make money but when it goes down and many people fudding about it he sold his coin ) not everybody have a mindset like you or like other trader,for example problem when garvin said Bitcoin is done and right now splitting chain.
from my perspective Bitcoin is a potential project  ,really good because it can be used as a payment ultility and facilitate people to buy an items worldwide.
let's hope for the best for bitcoin



Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: d5000 on July 20, 2017, 09:12:15 PM
BIP91 now is "almost locked in" as only about half of the remaining blocks of the current period (17/32) are needed to signal for it - miners could only revert it if more than 50% decide to change to a non-BIP91 client now.

So Segwit is practically a safe bet.

Taking into account this, I expect the price to rise a bit further, but today probably it will not break the ATH's still. I expect a small correction because of "sell the news" tomorrow, and because it's theoretically possible that Segwit still doesn't get activated if more than 50% of the miners conspire against it. The 3000$ in my opinion will be broken once it is safe to say Segwit is locked in.

Maybe I'm wrong and we break the ATH today - the fast rise surprised me. ;)


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: HI-TEC99 on July 20, 2017, 09:28:09 PM
BIP91 now is "almost locked in" as only about half of the remaining blocks of the current period (17/32) are needed to signal for it - miners could only revert it if more than 50% decide to change to a non-BIP91 client now.

So Segwit is practically a safe bet.

Taking into account this, I expect the price to rise a bit further, but today probably it will not break the ATH's still. I expect a small correction because of "sell the news" tomorrow, and because it's theoretically possible that Segwit still doesn't get activated if more than 50% of the miners conspire against it. The 3000$ in my opinion will be broken once it is safe to say Segwit is locked in.

Maybe I'm wrong and we break the ATH today - the fast rise surprised me. ;)

During the recent price rises it was usually going up by $300 a day at the most. Today it's up by over $500 which is a massive movement. If the upward pace stays the same it could just about hit $3000 today, and if it doesn't it will almost certainly do it tomorrow.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: wuvdoll on July 20, 2017, 09:50:55 PM
Quite possible we could go and hit 3k this weekend or after. We are gonna go over it this time and possible like some topic here predicted and over 3500. My only concern on this is possible splitting chains. Hope that this wont be the case and that we can enjoy in so waited and anticipated rise.
Hitting new ATH before aug 1st ? I doubt about the possibilities as there are people still looking to stay safer by leaving off their bitcoin holding hence they may start booking profits when they will be seeing prices above $2800 to $2900 which may drag down to $2300 levels before aug 1st too. Anything will be possible and I am talking by reading the market sentiment of investors and traders.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Kotone on July 20, 2017, 10:59:07 PM
maybe 10 days more and will see what really happen of the segwit people telling about it the prediction is not that too acruate if bitcoin price wil be half then people will be cried because of it. But hiting ath before or after august 1 it is really 50/50 percent chance always play safe save and sell.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on July 20, 2017, 11:14:42 PM
Are we going to see $3000 tonight? This is some rise, wow.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: gentlemand on July 20, 2017, 11:15:42 PM
30-120 minutes.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: tabas on July 20, 2017, 11:19:33 PM
I'm seeing that we can possible see $3,000 tomorrow or within few hours. And if my speculation is wrong maybe we can it to happen as fast as after an hour. The price is rapidly increasing and this makes me scared again that we have to be prepared and expect a rapid crash.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on July 22, 2017, 02:04:58 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.
I think that will happen when segwit finally gets activated, that is going to be the milestone of the new era for bitcoin, bitcoin will go above 3000 and probably we will never see a lower price than that ever again, so I hope everyone stashed as much bitcoin as they could to take advantage of this opportunity.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: peter0425 on July 22, 2017, 03:18:18 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.
I think that will happen when segwit finally gets activated, that is going to be the milestone of the new era for bitcoin, bitcoin will go above 3000 and probably we will never see a lower price than that ever again, so I hope everyone stashed as much bitcoin as they could to take advantage of this opportunity.

We still needed 183 blocks until rejecting non-SegWit blocks. I'm seeing BTC.Com and Bitcoin Russia not updating their software. Yes, it will be cool to see bitcoin price touch $3000 again and this will be a major milestones for us, new ATH. I'm thinking in around 2-5 days, we are going to reach that price. I think the miners who are still not using BIP91 software would have no other choice here. I hope when we touch $3000 though, at least sustained that price because last time we hit it, a lot of investors push the sell button instantly.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: d5000 on July 22, 2017, 04:04:26 AM
I see my prediction in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036887.msg20268062#msg20268062) wasn't that bad ;) The spike up to $2900 was simply too sharp and it was obvious that the high could not be held.

I think we will see now a consolidation on the reached level of $2600-2800 and then, once the numbers begin to come close to the 95% threshold for the BIP141 activation phase thanks to BIP91, the new attack to $3000. I think this time it will succeed, as it seems clear that the market is reacting mainly to fundamental signals and there remains some uncertainty if BIP91 was not falsely signalled (we can't prove that unless hacking the servers of all pools ;) ).


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: FromTheStars on July 22, 2017, 04:06:51 AM
Hang on let me ask my crystal ball. It says I can't read the market i'm just a talking crystal ball.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: skorupi17 on July 22, 2017, 04:22:03 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

The achievement of a new all time high will depend on how the SegWit activation will be. If the activation went well and smooth then we will be expecting an ATH within the month of August this year. This is very much probable because we are just about 300 USD away from 3000 USD mark (as of now). Despite of what will happen, in one way or another, we will see bitcoin goes over 3000 USD no matter what.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Black Angel on July 22, 2017, 07:35:27 AM
Hardfork issues hinder price increases, if there is no hardfork issue I'm sure bitcoin prices have reached $ 4000 or more, but I'm optimistic, bitcoin prices will reach $ 3000 after the 1st of August (a week later).


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: charlescoin on July 23, 2017, 06:40:43 PM
It looks like we are headed for a period of more stable price rises with a few problems on the horizon (2mb hard fork). I don't think these possible problems will deter the price however and I think $3000 and a new ATH will happen before the end of the month.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: uki on July 23, 2017, 09:47:33 PM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

The achievement of a new all time high will depend on how the SegWit activation will be. If the activation went well and smooth then we will be expecting an ATH within the month of August this year. This is very much probable because we are just about 300 USD away from 3000 USD mark (as of now). Despite of what will happen, in one way or another, we will see bitcoin goes over 3000 USD no matter what.
Yes, the new ATH is easily achievable (as you mentioned only 10% is pretty easy for Bitcoin), provided all the transition process goes smoothly. I don't see many reasons why it shouldn't at the moment, but until we get there you can't say that it is a sure thing. Highly probable yes, sure not.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Pearls Before Swine on July 23, 2017, 09:51:10 PM
Hang on let me ask my crystal ball. It says I can't read the market i'm just a talking crystal ball.
My balls say 2 weeks.  Check your ball(s) again.

But really, we're waffling around $2750, and that's a great thing.  Look at where we just were, which is $18XX.  Don't exactly know about the segwit thing, but all signs point to ATH in about 2 weeks.  Now, I've been wrong many times before, especially prognosticating about bitcoin.  But I just have an overwhelming gut instinct that I'm right here.  Not gonna sell anything.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Clavulanic on July 23, 2017, 10:24:41 PM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

The achievement of a new all time high will depend on how the SegWit activation will be. If the activation went well and smooth then we will be expecting an ATH within the month of August this year. This is very much probable because we are just about 300 USD away from 3000 USD mark (as of now). Despite of what will happen, in one way or another, we will see bitcoin goes over 3000 USD no matter what.
Yes, the new ATH is easily achievable (as you mentioned only 10% is pretty easy for Bitcoin), provided all the transition process goes smoothly. I don't see many reasons why it shouldn't at the moment, but until we get there you can't say that it is a sure thing. Highly probable yes, sure not.

Definitely I agree that ATH is achievable and it's been promising nowadays despite of the circumstances from the previous days of price quick drops. With a positive visions of ongoing price trends of bitcoins, I think that it will be possible to achieve those goals of $3000 mark as of this year and so on. If we reached that top we will expect a lots of dumps on the market and then eventually rise again after all; normal fluctuations will happen at normal scenarios.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on July 24, 2017, 05:54:54 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.
I think that will happen when segwit finally gets activated, that is going to be the milestone of the new era for bitcoin, bitcoin will go above 3000 and probably we will never see a lower price than that ever again, so I hope everyone stashed as much bitcoin as they could to take advantage of this opportunity.

We still needed 183 blocks until rejecting non-SegWit blocks. I'm seeing BTC.Com and Bitcoin Russia not updating their software. Yes, it will be cool to see bitcoin price touch $3000 again and this will be a major milestones for us, new ATH. I'm thinking in around 2-5 days, we are going to reach that price. I think the miners who are still not using BIP91 software would have no other choice here. I hope when we touch $3000 though, at least sustained that price because last time we hit it, a lot of investors push the sell button instantly.
It is not really surprising even if 3000 is no different than 2999 or 3001 round numbers are a psychological barrier so when people saw that bitcoin touched that price they immediately sold  and that lowered the price, but now that we have touched that price the chances of staying above that price for a lot longer have increased.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Happydd on July 24, 2017, 10:09:43 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

Bitcoin is the only money strong enough to reach $ 3,000, all altcoin are not powerful enough to do that, even, ETH, which is considered to be the most powerful altcoin, is having a lot of trouble getting hacked. Bitcoin is the only currency strong enough and safe.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Hoganye on July 24, 2017, 11:33:28 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

Bitcoin is the only money strong enough to reach $ 3,000, all altcoin are not powerful enough to do that, even, ETH, which is considered to be the most powerful altcoin, is having a lot of trouble getting hacked. Bitcoin is the only currency strong enough and safe.
Bitcoin reach to $3000 not important, if compare about ratio growth, Bitcoin still very poor with Ethereum. But I agree with you Bitcoin is best safe place and best crypto strong in present (not currency) because if Bitcoin breakdown, the crypto market will breakdown too


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Osarman on July 25, 2017, 09:05:11 AM
Hang on let me ask my crystal ball. It says I can't read the market i'm just a talking crystal ball.
Funny you should mentioned that what do you really want to tell us because it is out of mind you should need to have a proper knowledge about sentence because if you are having proper knowledge then believe me brother we can discuss over thousand times so I would like to tell you to improve your knowledge because it is more helpful and need one.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Sweetbtc on July 25, 2017, 09:09:47 AM
That was a month ago. Is this really complicated for you guys. Because it's not that complicated. Take a look around you look at the signals look at the candlesticks and do your own research.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: farhaan on July 25, 2017, 09:44:21 AM
We might expect ATH soon after august 1 when segwit will be activated.The price would go very high and all the weak hands who sold their bitcoins due t panic would rush at the same time to buy bitcoins and it would increase bitcoin price much higher.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: 1Referee on July 25, 2017, 10:11:11 AM
We might expect ATH soon after august 1 when segwit will be activated.The price would go very high and all the weak hands who sold their bitcoins due t panic would rush at the same time to buy bitcoins and it would increase bitcoin price much higher.

If there will be no chain split, which at this point no one here can say anything about, we'll be heading towards the $4000 level next month. If a chain split does turn out to happen, then we'll be experiencing some interesting weeks. I have no doubt that we'll dive below the $2000 level again in that scenario. It's depressing that we have to deal with certain figures that are only out to fill their own pockets, and to nurse their hunger for control. Yes, I am referring to Jihad Wu & Co. On the other hand, other miners can be blamed as well for what we are experiencing. Segwit could have already been fully operational. :-X


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Vaskiy on July 25, 2017, 10:18:43 AM
We might expect ATH soon after august 1 when segwit will be activated.The price would go very high and all the weak hands who sold their bitcoins due t panic would rush at the same time to buy bitcoins and it would increase bitcoin price much higher.

If there will be no chain split, which at this point no one here can say anything about, we'll be heading towards the $4000 level next month. If a chain split does turn out to happen, then we'll be experiencing some interesting weeks. I have no doubt that we'll dive below the $2000 level again in that scenario. It's depressing that we have to deal with certain figures that are only out to fill their own pockets, and to nurse their hunger for control. Yes, I am referring to Jihad Wu & Co. On the other hand, other miners can be blamed as well for what we are experiencing. Segwit could have already been fully operational. :-X
Agreed, right now everything is completely dependent upon the splitting on August 1, the likely possibility for a split is low yet none has assured that the splitting won't happen. All we can do is, just speculae about the happenings. Rest as stated by the above mate need to be prepared to face anything, because price drop as well as reaching Ath is possible.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on July 26, 2017, 10:13:35 PM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

The achievement of a new all time high will depend on how the SegWit activation will be. If the activation went well and smooth then we will be expecting an ATH within the month of August this year. This is very much probable because we are just about 300 USD away from 3000 USD mark (as of now). Despite of what will happen, in one way or another, we will see bitcoin goes over 3000 USD no matter what.
True, bitcoin is close enough to touch that price and to stay above that price but we need to be careful recent news about some darknet markets being closed and the possibility of an exchange being closed too, have created doubts in some investors, don’t forget that bitcoin is always one news away from losing a lot of value.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: audaciousbeing on July 26, 2017, 10:16:51 PM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

I would add that the time to pass that mark is not yet now as even the price has not witnessed some level of stability to grow beyond that mark as even now, it has gone back to the $2400+ in which could be caused by several factors but hopefully when things settle the more, we get to pass that bench mark. Its possible in due time though.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: harizen on July 26, 2017, 10:29:30 PM
Why other people rushing things and wants a quick jump to $3,000? Just be patient and just go with the flow. Im sure if price will jump to $3,000+ today, we can see post about "Im not able to buy at $2,300" "Im not able to buy at low price" "Damn! I missed the opportunities" etc.

Just watch the price and make some analyzation on what move will you do. We can't expect a new ATH today as bitcoin is currently on progress of a "changed". Let's wait before it became stable and surely we can see another trip to the moon. Don't mind the new ATH or any target price for now.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: panju1 on July 27, 2017, 12:53:51 AM
Why other people rushing things and wants a quick jump to $3,000? Just be patient and just go with the flow. Im sure if price will jump to $3,000+ today, we can see post about "Im not able to buy at $2,300" "Im not able to buy at low price" "Damn! I missed the opportunities" etc.

Just watch the price and make some analyzation on what move will you do. We can't expect a new ATH today as bitcoin is currently on progress of a "changed". Let's wait before it became stable and surely we can see another trip to the moon. Don't mind the new ATH or any target price for now.

Yes, there more likely than not will be several opportunities for buying. Even if we cross the $3k mark, I don't think we will stay there for ever. There will be some retraces at which bargain hunters can step in.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: azguard on July 28, 2017, 10:21:46 AM
Why other people rushing things and wants a quick jump to $3,000? Just be patient and just go with the flow. Im sure if price will jump to $3,000+ today, we can see post about "Im not able to buy at $2,300" "Im not able to buy at low price" "Damn! I missed the opportunities" etc.

Just watch the price and make some analyzation on what move will you do. We can't expect a new ATH today as bitcoin is currently on progress of a "changed". Let's wait before it became stable and surely we can see another trip to the moon. Don't mind the new ATH or any target price for now.

Yes, there more likely than not will be several opportunities for buying. Even if we cross the $3k mark, I don't think we will stay there for ever. There will be some retraces at which bargain hunters can step in.

Sure we will go over 3k but I dont think we will momentary cross after August 1st. Think that after some time this mean on month or two we will see crossing it, and for anyone this can be opportunity to buy. We all are expecting for price to go over 3k and much higher so if opportunity arrives for it it need to be used wisely and with extreme caution. Reason is that it may end with first price drop and then with rise.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on July 30, 2017, 09:48:58 PM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

The achievement of a new all time high will depend on how the SegWit activation will be. If the activation went well and smooth then we will be expecting an ATH within the month of August this year. This is very much probable because we are just about 300 USD away from 3000 USD mark (as of now). Despite of what will happen, in one way or another, we will see bitcoin goes over 3000 USD no matter what.
I think it is a given that we are going to break the 3000 mark the issue is predicting how high bitcoin will go that is the real problem, I do not have a clear answer for that but I will not be surprised if the price of bitcoin went up as far as 4000 before suffering a correction.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: ktabb on July 31, 2017, 10:39:00 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

The part in bold is the part that is problematic here. Prices don't rise forever. The more bitcoin rises, the more money is required to make it rise even more. If bitcoin market cap is going to approach $100 billion+, where are those billions and billions of new dollars going to come from?


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: MRlong on July 31, 2017, 11:37:49 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

The part in bold is the part that is problematic here. Prices don't rise forever. The more bitcoin rises, the more money is required to make it rise even more. If bitcoin market cap is going to approach $100 billion+, where are those billions and billions of new dollars going to come from?
From new investor, other market, from anywhere on the world's. Why you don't ask the market caps of Forex market? As per my understanding, the Forex market have volume 1600 billion "every day", and the volume of crypto just 1-2 billion when have more volatility!


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Pejoh Asu on July 31, 2017, 05:15:12 PM
Be patient, $ 3000 will not be long, I'm sure this August the price will reach $ 3000. And this is not the highest price, but the price will continue to rise until it is difficult to predict.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Getaman on July 31, 2017, 05:58:27 PM
Be patient, $ 3000 will not be long, I'm sure this August the price will reach $ 3000. And this is not the highest price, but the price will continue to rise until it is difficult to predict.

If the BCC fork can attract many media attention and many people will know about bitcoin, the price could be higher than 3000. 


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on August 01, 2017, 01:30:44 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

The part in bold is the part that is problematic here. Prices don't rise forever. The more bitcoin rises, the more money is required to make it rise even more. If bitcoin market cap is going to approach $100 billion+, where are those billions and billions of new dollars going to come from?
100 billions dollar is a lot of money for a person, but for markets that is in fact a low amount of money so bitcoin will have no problem reaching that at some point in the future especially if things keep going in the right direction with several countries accepting bitcoin.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Harriti on August 01, 2017, 04:59:05 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

The part in bold is the part that is problematic here. Prices don't rise forever. The more bitcoin rises, the more money is required to make it rise even more. If bitcoin market cap is going to approach $100 billion+, where are those billions and billions of new dollars going to come from?
100 billions dollar is a lot of money for a person, but for markets that is in fact a low amount of money so bitcoin will have no problem reaching that at some point in the future especially if things keep going in the right direction with several countries accepting bitcoin.
Well, remember with Forex market, it have 1000-2000 billion dollar volume every day, but the crypto market just have market caps $100 billion+, not as good as Forex market although the potential of crypto market very large.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: ASHLIUSZ on August 01, 2017, 02:46:41 PM
At present the price is staggering around $2700 which reached above $2800 in between and keeps counting. The price hasn't reached a new ATH which was recorded to be few dollars less than $3000. Hope the price will grow depending upon the present day's end result. Nothing seems to be assured, but the trust drives the price reach higher.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: azguard on August 02, 2017, 10:23:21 AM
At present the price is staggering around $2700 which reached above $2800 in between and keeps counting. The price hasn't reached a new ATH which was recorded to be few dollars less than $3000. Hope the price will grow depending upon the present day's end result. Nothing seems to be assured, but the trust drives the price reach higher.

Expecting to see on all exchanges price over 3000 but after this with BCC comes pass. Think that made some impact on moving price of bitcoin up and that all are waiting to sell bitcoin cash for as much as possible. Then expect to see price of bitcoin going up much more then 3000. Consider little above 3000 to be stable price after all this and how long will it last that will depend mainly from how much noise will bitcoin cash make.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on August 04, 2017, 03:00:07 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

The part in bold is the part that is problematic here. Prices don't rise forever. The more bitcoin rises, the more money is required to make it rise even more. If bitcoin market cap is going to approach $100 billion+, where are those billions and billions of new dollars going to come from?
100 billions dollar is a lot of money for a person, but for markets that is in fact a low amount of money so bitcoin will have no problem reaching that at some point in the future especially if things keep going in the right direction with several countries accepting bitcoin.
Well, remember with Forex market, it have 1000-2000 billion dollar volume every day, but the crypto market just have market caps $100 billion+, not as good as Forex market although the potential of crypto market very large.
Correct this is why when I see some wild predictions that each bitcoin is going to have a value of 100k or something like that, sometimes I think it is not going to be possible, however the potential to grow is there that is why everyone must have some bitcoins ready in case those wild predictions become a reality.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: serjent05 on August 04, 2017, 06:26:31 AM
I believe it won't take very long to reach $3000.  Bitcoin had mad a successful transition even thought there is  fork happened.  But as I see the market bitcoin is starting to get bullish again.  Probably we can se $3000 Bitcoin before the end of August and several record breaking ATH afterward.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: timerland on August 04, 2017, 09:51:13 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

Completely agreed. When segwit gets locked in later this month it will just mean that the price will only go even higher. I think that when this does happen, $3000 is just an arbitrary number. Price can definitely go even higher than that without any problems at all.

Right now when bitcoin cash goes down, bitcoin seems to go up still. But i believe that this correlation will soon be ending as bitcoin cash becomes more known as an altcoin than a legitimate fork of bitcoin.

If i was to give an estimate of when $3000 will be achieved, i'd say it'll probably be anywhere between december this year and march next year.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: d5000 on August 05, 2017, 02:41:23 AM
I say: Monday or Tuesday. (see also my prediction here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036887.msg20295223#msg20295223))

On August 8, Segwit is projected to lock in. That is Tuesday. Very probably a first strong upmove of the "Segwit run" will come some time before that event, because of the well known "buy the rumours, sell the news" pattern.

There may be resistance on the old all time high, but I think it will be broken relatively fast (e.g. at the second or third "try"). The current upward trend seems sustainable: it is sharp, but much less so than the BIP91 spike that was pure FOMO.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Stanr010 on August 05, 2017, 03:09:41 AM
$3000 is imminent.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: the-A-Man on August 05, 2017, 03:30:54 AM
$3056 ATM. I think we will see $4000 by September.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 05, 2017, 03:45:24 AM
$3,134 for now guys. We really did reached another ATH and possible that we will be heading another all time high very soon. We just have to wait any longer if you are still not that satisfied with the current price. But I'm in the middle of selling now or holding it, as I remembered that there's a challenge and promise came from McAfee.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 05, 2017, 04:33:45 AM
Hmmph.  July 20th is when this thread was started, and I wouldn't have predicted we'd be at $3100 by now.  I'm happily surprised but wondering how long we're going to stay at this level.   Of course, I asked the same damn thing when we crossed over to $2000.  Lol

Here's to a new ATH.  It's going to draw more Filipino and Chinese shitposters into this forum than ever before.  No offense.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on August 06, 2017, 03:48:56 AM
I say: Monday or Tuesday. (see also my prediction here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036887.msg20295223#msg20295223))

On August 8, Segwit is projected to lock in. That is Tuesday. Very probably a first strong upmove of the "Segwit run" will come some time before that event, because of the well known "buy the rumours, sell the news" pattern.

There may be resistance on the old all time high, but I think it will be broken relatively fast (e.g. at the second or third "try"). The current upward trend seems sustainable: it is sharp, but much less so than the BIP91 spike that was pure FOMO.
Your prediction was right, bitcoin is going to be unstoppable in the next week and months, segwit is still not locked in but unless the miners did some crazy move then it is almost a guarantee that segwit is going to lock in and with it the fate of bitcoin has changed and in my opinion it will improve the chances of reaching massive adoption.


Title: Re: How long until $3000 or any other ATH whatsoever?
Post by: Hiluxury Bitcoin on August 28, 2017, 08:50:58 AM
Price is recovering nicely now that it seems clear that segwit is going in and the hardforks are getting rejected. As long as we continue this path and nothing changes, the price should keep going higher with no stopping. How many years until we hit an ATH? Last time it was $2980 on Bitstamp, $2889.5 Bitfinex $3003 , it would be cool to get past $3000 on all of the exchanges this time.

The part in bold is the part that is problematic here. Prices don't rise forever. The more bitcoin rises, the more money is required to make it rise even more. If bitcoin market cap is going to approach $100 billion+, where are those billions and billions of new dollars going to come from?
100 billions dollar is a lot of money for a person, but for markets that is in fact a low amount of money so bitcoin will have no problem reaching that at some point in the future especially if things keep going in the right direction with several countries accepting bitcoin.
Well, remember with Forex market, it have 1000-2000 billion dollar volume every day, but the crypto market just have market caps $100 billion+, not as good as Forex market although the potential of crypto market very large.
Correct this is why when I see some wild predictions that each bitcoin is going to have a value of 100k or something like that, sometimes I think it is not going to be possible, however the potential to grow is there that is why everyone must have some bitcoins ready in case those wild predictions become a reality.
What 100K? Are you have knowledge are not! now it is $4k above? So i would say that better to go live market you will know the current price. I'm sorry to say that brother you should need some knowledge according to that because if you having knowledge then you will have best option to reply. But i appreciate that you have write good about grow up action of bitcoin.