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12/11/2017 (https://rados.io/posts/saturn-network-update-12112017)

Mission

Our mission is to provide accurate and timely data to everyone in the cryptocurrency community. We plan to build the most comprehensive investor portal and empower our subscribers to make wise investment decisions.

Radex

Announcement! https://rados.io/posts/radex-alpha-is-live

Radex is a decentralized exchange for ethereum tokens. Radex is the first decentralized exchange for ERC223 tokens - a new token standard that has some advantages over conventional ERC20.

Radex is the first 0% fee decentralized exchange. It consists of two parts: a smart contract that handles all the financial transactions and the web application that makes interacting with the smart contract easier. The smart contract is well reviewed, tested, and most importantly open source. You can view the code for the smart contract on our Github. You can read more about its architecture and development philosophy here.

When we say 0% fee we mean that the exchange does not have an admin or another entity of authority that extracts rent from exchange ownership. However it’s worth noting that there are certain fees for every transaction that you send to Ethereum blockchain. These fees go to Ethereum miners that secure the blockchain for all of us. Keep reading to find out the full fee structure.

Community

If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.

We will actively engage with our community, collect feedback on our existing offerings and eliciting requirements for new tools and services. Every quarter we will release an updated roadmap proposal that our subscribers and investors can critique or endorse. Every roadmap proposal will be accompanied by a voting smart contract, ensuring transparency of Rados’s strategic decision making. At the end of the voting period top projects will be added to our roadmap.

Let’s work together to build the toolbox of a modern investor.

Exchanges
Radex (https://exchange.rados.io/)

Whitepaper
https://whitepaper.rados.io/ (https://whitepaper.rados.io/)
https://whitepaper.rados.io/_RADOS.pdf (https://whitepaper.rados.io/_RADOS.pdf)
https://whitepaper.saturn.network (https://whitepaper.saturn.network)

Whitepaper in other languages
Chinese: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByApryHvYSpQWm4tU3loV1VyZmM (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByApryHvYSpQWm4tU3loV1VyZmM)
Hindi: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-reAUiYTAiHRXJmd21ONUxOclE/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-reAUiYTAiHRXJmd21ONUxOclE/view?usp=sharing)
Portuguese: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B134irro5LxiSHNrT3BXMjNqLTg/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B134irro5LxiSHNrT3BXMjNqLTg/view)
Portuguese (saturn): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B134irro5LxiNkVhSUVXc09uTWM/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B134irro5LxiNkVhSUVXc09uTWM/view?usp=sharing)

Website
https://www.rados.io/ (https://www.rados.io/)
https://www.saturn.network/ (https://www.saturn.network/)

BOUNTY
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2156798 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2156798)

Twitter
https://twitter.com/rados_io/ (https://twitter.com/rados_io/)

Telegram
https://t.me/rados (https://t.me/rados)

Email
support@rados.io

This is a very interesting project, I want to translate it to japanese language if it is permitted. But I am interested to also invest in this project, is there a pre-sale price for this project?

I'm fairly interested in this project. Hoping to see more.

Hello l10no, we'll be nothing but delighted if you would help us connect with the japanese community! You can either publish the translation on your blog and we'll link to it from our website, or you can email your translation to support@rados.io and we'll host it ourselves.
As for the Pre-ICO, the terms are published here http://whitepaper.rados.io/ico-terms.html#pre-ico-terms

Thank you for your kind words, Cean. More is coming to our blog at https://steemit.com/@rados

In the meantime feel free to ask any questions that arose while reading our whitepaper, will be happy to answer.

Where are topic with bounty?

show more information here .
i don't want to access you website to get it

Interesting. How does the Google cloud platform relate in Figure 4.2? Will all Eth wallet (MEW, Parity, etc) be able to interact with Rados to withdraw tokens?

Please update the OP with all relevant stuff to that upcoming ICO because for some people much hard to read the whole whitepaper to understand the concept of this project. Current one announcement is not looking attractive.

where's the info about this token?

Unfortunately you should have to browse the WP to know about this coin which is just headache. I also would like to suggest the OP kindly update this thread to get better attention towards this project. I hope in due time all material will be updated.

http://whitepaper.rados.io/

Thank you for the feedback everyone, I'll update the OP with a short summary of the project and Pre-ICO terms today. We're also working on a blog post that will shed some light on the platform's applications, stay tuned to that.


Rados is, technically, a traditional SaaS business when it comes to features. We will host the data processing pipeline and the data warehouse on google cloud platform because we believe that they have the best infrastructure primitives available compared to, say, AWS, and charge a better price. Namely, when it comes to data warehousing, https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/ (https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/) blows the competition out of the water, and lets you query and analyze petabytes of data in a convenient format.

Access to some datasets will be restricted behind a paywall and you will be able to get access for a monthly subscription fee. The fee will be charged in Saturn, an Ethereum token that's an extension of the ERC20 standard. Cryptocurrencies have many redeeming qualities, but the one that got us excited for this project is the fact that you can treat smart contracts as programmable money. The goal is to use Saturn as the payment currency for Rados, and display the full history of rados.io's wallet transactions on the website. Think of a typical report that an internet company sends to its shareholders every quarter: revenue, total number of users, number of active users, average revenue per user, etc. etc. By utilizing Saturn's smart contract and our data processing tech we'll be able to update this report in real time.


Yes, Saturn lives in the Ethereum ecosystem and is compliant with ERC20 standard. So, on the very first day of the ICO, you can already store tokens on your desktop (say Mist), mobile (token.im) or hardware (Ledger Nano S) wallet, and you can trade it on ERC20 exchanges such as https://cryptoderivatives.market/ and https://etherdelta.github.io/#PLU-ETH. This ecosystem is one of the main reasons why we chose Ethereum over other platforms that offer token creation, despite all the hacks going on.

The good news is that all recent hacks are caused by negligence rather than exploiting a fault in ethereum's protocol. That's why we won't be releasing our smart contract until we can prove beyond reasonable doubt that all methods of interacting with it are secure.

Hello, guys, i am really tired of this coinmarcetcap.com. If you can do something better it will be awesome! Can I translate your project to Russian community? I like your affiliate program. So waiting for updates, I think I will participate in pre-ICO.

Updated the OP to include a high level project description.


Hello CryptoC0P, I appreciate your positive outlook. We would love to connect with the Russian community and we would be very grateful if you help us with translation. Reply back to this thread with a link to your blog or send it to our email and we'll add the link to our website along with the japanese translation.

"trading signals", "searching ico"
This project can be very useful , because pretty hard for me to understand about teams for some ico, like this.
some project looks interesting, but sometimes its from newbie account and sometimes dev's team asks much more money then they really need.
Would be great have site in bookmarks , which will make analysis of some ico's about they team and capitalization.

Hi, guys! I wrote an article about your project in Russian. https://golos.io/rados/@cryptocop/proekt-rados-io

Great job and thank you very much, CryptoC0P! Once we get a couple more links from other international communities we will publish your the link to your blog on our website. Hopefully whatever you've written is positive 8)

Your idea probably good, hope your ICO goes well.recently, too much ICO, but i see something similar.
The price will be drop after ICO, maybe i will wait that time to join in.

support,the idea is good, will pay attention to your post and further information.

Could I get bounty if I translate to Chinese for you? Please PM to me

Thank you for your support, Gina, abjingyun and blinkwang! We're definitely in it for the long run, and it goes without saying that you should invest your own money only when you yourself are comfortable doing so. Hopefully our answers to your questions and here and on our blog. In fact, as we speak I'm training a neural network for the second part of our AI trading blog series https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@rados/ai-powered-trading-part-i

This series of blog posts should give you an idea of what we think the future of trading will be. As more AI agents join the cryptocurrency market we should see less pump&dump strategies being executed on shitcoins daily and more stable exchange rates for cryptocurrencies across all exchanges, similar to what happened to stocks after high frequency trading became mainstream. Trading AIs need lots of high detail, high quality data that covers the whole cryptocurrency market for training that is simply currently unavailable, which is why our first product, Rados, is the data collection platform. And while there are hoards of other projects that promise similar things you will get a chance to see how we execute and what research we're doing and you'll decide for yourself which project to back.

As far as translations go, we will not be giving out tokens for this work because that's not the right way to attract devoted community leaders. However, if you truly believe in our project, feel free to blog about us and include your referral link in your blog post, which entitles you to 5% of STN tokens purchased by the people you invite. And we will be happy to publish the link to your blog on our website to help you promote your blog.

Thank you for your reply

It seems to be an interesting and independent project, a complete wallet, especially on social media marketing, I'm very curious about it, and of course on bounty, hopefully can run well until the launch

I don't see any information on the team behind this project. Is that shown anywhere? I would like to know more about the team behind the project as pre-ico stuff is really more about trusting the team than an idea. Thanks.

Any discussion site group or forum to ask several question and gain more infos about this project live with the developer teammate? Btw, i like the site design. Looks like professional and unique  :)

why translation must use blog/web
is good you revelop good thread, and then translator can translate youre thread can promote in local community

We do not like the current trend of attaching identity to the blockchain like most other projects are doing. There are two ways to develop cryptocurrency projects: the Satoshi way and the Buterin way. The Satoshi way means build secure technology and get people's buy-in based on the technological superiority and respect for everyone's freedom and privacy. The Buterin way means lend your photo to any venture capital backed startup for a share of profits without actually contributing anything to the project, and bend over in front of any big money investor. While we appreciate what mr. Buterin is doing for cryptocurrency adoption, we strongly believe that the new decentralized economy should be built the Satoshi way. This way you'll actually care about the idea and how it works under the hood and not just play the reputation game.

The Pre-ICO will last for a whole month and we'll be regularly pushing updates to our blog and our website, so you'll be able to assess our competence based on what you see. Actions speak louder than words.


Thank you! I just told the person responsible for the website that someone on the internet said that his design is 10/10. He said "hell yeah", shut down his laptop and disappeared in an unknown direction (closest bar). You can ask your questions here in this thread or on our blog at https://steemit.com/@rados. Once we're done with setting up the infrastructure we'll open up our telegram group.

ICO project more and more, a lot of projects of technology are the same or similar, I don't know how long the project can exist, but if some market sore point for solve the problem of the project, it will be a good project, there will be a lot of people support, hope the project can be as good luck.

The need for good quality data is indeed quite pressing. I think it's a major factor contributing to the overwhelming amount of speculation in the market. We plan to use Rados's data for investing in cryptocurrencies ourselves, so we have a lot at stake and will work tirelessly to ensure we offer the best quality.

Agreed, there are lot's of tech related project just as this one. So one thing to make this project thrive and event get a success is that this project must be unique, this should be make different (in a good way of course) so it would attract peoples to join and support.

Just pushed another update to our blog on steemit https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@rados/ai-powered-trading-part-ii

Let me know if this is too technical and hard to read or whether it is not technical enough, and we will adjust in the future. And if you have more questions about what one can do with cryptocurrency data feel free to suggest new topics and we'll gladly investigate.

This is good material for profi traders. But it difficult for noobies. Can you post something for absolute beginners?

PM me if you need German translation

What would be interesting to you? If you have any specific requests we would look into them. Otherwise we'll try to provide a non-overwhelming summary/TLDR, with just charts and insights, and leave the rest of the blog post for more technical analysis and methodology

More images, more basic information about cryptocurency markets. Detailed cryptocurrency trading guides. If I had such place where I can learn full time it will be awesome.
Nice new website design i liked it. I bought some Saturn for testing. So waiting new material from you and I will buy more.

Understood. We'll try a new format in the next blogpost where we will do a quick review of the blogpost with relevant graphs, so you can decide whether the post is interesting to you at a glance, and do a more detailed review in the rest of the post. If you have any concrete topics that you'd like to learn also please do let us know.

And thanks for the kind words about the new website ;) Just posted an investment guide on our steemit blog, feel free to translate that for your community with your affiliate link https://steemit.com/ico/@rados/our-pre-ico-is-live

You can vote for your project here: https://t.me/preicoved/28
It is special channel where only pre-ICO projects are located

@CryptoC0P, just pushed a new update to our "AI powered trading" series. Is this format more readable to you? https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@rados/ai-powered-trading-part-iii

Updated steemit with an FAQ https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@rados/rados-pre-ico-faq-part-i
Will update the OP momentarily

let us know if you have any other questions, will be happy to answer

want to reserve German translation

Newbie started ICOs go nowhere, it is almost certain it is a scam project. Because otherwise, why not show he show people his credibility? Also all the ICOs are just displays for keywords, nothing much new (if at all).

Thank you for your valuable input. Maybe our recently published FAQ will answer your questions.
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@rados/rados-pre-ico-faq-part-i

We are building Rados because, as you can tell from the thread and feedback from other platforms so far, people want to see this idea implemented.

I really like the sound of this project, but I think you're not helping it by maintaining anonymity. There are so many scams and there is so much incompetence in crypto land that it's really hard to take a leap of faith when nothing can be known about the background of the team, which is ultimately what people are investing in. From an outsider's perspective, all we have to go on is a whitepaper that is competently written but could have been outsourced for a couple of hundred bucks. So please reconsider your position on this point.

 

Our apologies for taking so long to reply - we were off the social media working on Rados alpha release. We're delivering some exciting features: an investor portal, which for now consists of a blogging platform that we'll use to publish our courses on how to use realtime market data to derive market signals, and a platform for training neural networks right in your browser that will let you predict future cryptocurrency prices. It will be interesting to see who is better at forecasting price moves: humans or our community's best AI.

While we appreciate your feedback, for now we still maintain that we'll keep conducting business as-is, and you'll be able to judge us based on the products that we deliver and not on empty promises. An action is worth more than a thousand words, even if all these words are on linkedin 8)

In the meantime you can judge us based on our public activity: we have a blog running on https://steemit.com/@rados where we publish some sneak peeks about what to expect from the project, and based on our github https://github.com/rados-io/. While working on our crowdsale smart contracts we've fixed two bugs in official Ethereum.org documentation. Interestingly enough, they have accepted our changes but haven't updated the guides on the website. As of right now ethereum.org still shows crowdsale contract with bugs.

Guys good new website! Saturn.network is better and easier to understand. Waiting for release in september. But still can't imagine how neural networks will work?

Thanks for the kind words CryptoC0P.

Neural networks are basically unbiased analysts who don't eat and sleep - they monitor market activity 24/7 and they make predictions about what's going to happen in the future. Think how human traders work: they subscribe to signals, monitor the status of order book on a particular exchange (or multiple exchanges), they try to find patterns in these data and interpret it, and they make an investment decision. Neural networks do the same thing - except they don't have a "favorite" coin that they're biased towards. The way a neural network works is similar to how a human would:

a) make a prediction
b) compare against test data. If it got the prediction right - get some reward, if it got the prediction wrong - modify its internal structure in order to not repeat the same mistake again
c) repeat

Essentially learning from its own experience.

As of today, smart human traders, in my opinion, will still outperform available trading bots, but only because there's a shortage of available data to train the bots. This is why we're building a data aggregation platform first - it's all about the quality of the data. We will then train neural networks on our diverse data feeds, and will build tools that allow investors without a math PhD to build such AI assistants themselves and use this assistant in their trading strategies through signals. And once we implement stop-loss and other risk mitigating strategies we'll sell subscriptions to our trading bots on Rados.

In the near future we imagine humans and machines working hand in hand in the markets. Machines are now better than humans in detecting patterns in data and answering questions about what's likely to happen in the future given a specific question. But the humans have the creativity to ask the right questions and think strategically. Neural networks are simply a very powerful tool that lets traders focus more on the interesting part of the job, asking the right questions and discovering profitable strategies, while leaving the boring busywork of sifting through data to specialized AIs.

So how much is the total supply of this coins?
Also in which exchanger is this coins listed?

Total supply is 200,000 STN. STN tokens will be used to purchase premium products on rados.io, so market price of the token will be backed by quality of and demand for our products and our community. STN tokens are currently not listed on any centralized exchange yet, but since it implements ERC223 and ERC20 token standards you'll be able to exchange STN for other ethereum tokens on exchanges like EtherDelta the moment you own them. Getting listed on a centralized exchange is on our roadmap for December 2017. You can find more information about the token and our roadmap on https://saturn.network (https://saturn.network)

check out the new and improved rados.io (http://rados.io)!

Rados team is looking for a graphic designer (details here: https://rados.io/posts/wanted-graphic-designer (https://rados.io/posts/wanted-graphic-designer)).
Official bounty program details will be posted soon (in a separate thread).
If you have any questions, feel free to reach out by sending email to bounty@rados.io

We're writing blog posts in between working on new platform features. How do you guys like our content so far? Any particular topics that you'd like us to cover?

Ok where is your team? I can't find it on the website

We just announced our bounty program for everybody that's interested. Should you have questions, please either ask them in the bounty topic or send DM to @rados-bounty

looks like project is dead on arrival, come on dev. we can do better than that!

With a project whose token price is more than 1 ether I think more has to be done.The ANN is quite porous, team behind project is next to unknown, the website is very rudimentary.Come on dev kindly juice up your ANN.

with a very limited total supply will certainly attract many investors to invest in this project, hopefully his dev strategy is good and not miss

mrongoz22 is correct. We're in no rush to sell out ASAP. We are building tools for ourselves to use, essentially, as we can't find suitable alternatives anywhere else, and we'll open up access to them employing a software-as-a-service business model. We'll only accept STN for payments, so the price of the token will be driven by the quality of the services that we provide, which I think is as fair as it gets. The amount of funding that we receive only impacts the speed of development - the more we can invest into hiring and infrastructure the faster and better products you will receive.

Supply is limited in order to provide exclusivity; you don't want everybody on the market to have superpowers. The fewer people use our tools and strategies - the more profit our community can extract ourselves. Our goal with the pricing and issuance is to find the right number of users from all over the world so we can share insights, have meaningful discussions, create and exchange strategies, and profit together from the not-so-random cryptocurrency market.

As for juicing up ANN - seems kind of useless, as most people here just glance through without doing any research or reading the already answered questions in the topic. We'd much rather spend time juicing up rados.io (http://rados.io) for the people who actually care 8) But we're still here to answer your questions

Ambitiuos!

Interesting project. Will watch it. Good luck, dev!

Two pieces of news today:

1. We've published a dev update on Radex, the decentralized exchange for ERC223 tokens that we're developing. Read more about it here https://rados.io/posts/radex-decentralized-exchange-with-the-lowest-fees (https://rados.io/posts/radex-decentralized-exchange-with-the-lowest-fees)

2. We've sent a reporter to Invest Bazaar Dubai. If you want to ask a question - let us know and we'll do our best to get to the right people and get the answers for you. Here's the link to this event: investbazardubai.com (http://investbazardubai.com)

 interesting  project . Chinese translation and promotion  please PM me.

You might be interested in checking out our bounty thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2156798 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2156798)

Any update about the project? How is it now?

I want to give an update to our local thread.

An interesting project, the idea is quite understandable. Let's see how it will manifest itself in the future. In the meantime, we will follow the development

So if you would buy some tokens right now, do they stay on that website or can we download a wallet somewhere and send it there immediately?

so if the project had been failed?
it looks long time but not any update.

It's the exact opposite of what you think. The tokens do not live on the website ever. The tokens live on the Ethereum blockchain and you can access them using any ethereum wallet. We've tested using Mist wallet, MyEtherWallet (and Saturn is natively supported there), MetaMask wallet (you can store tokens there but cannot send them) and imToken mobile wallet.

Will give a development update in a separate post.

Interesting view, but if everyone doing their changes, there can not be a correct average score of price, only one group of people should do that?

The project is alive and well, and there are updates on rados.io and ru.rados.io. We just don't treat this forum as our main announcement device, and frankly we've been slacking off on marketing efforts and we focused 100% on the educational curriculum for Rados, on blockchain research (the industry moves quickly and you need to dedicate at least 20% of your time to reading new papers if you want to stay relevant), and on development work for Radex (https://rados.io/posts/radex-decentralized-exchange-with-the-lowest-fees).

Once the work on Radex is finished we'll be engaging with the community in a more proactive manner and we expect the community to give us feedback on what the best cryptocurrency exchange should look like and what features you expect to see.


I'm not sure I understand. Would you care to elaborate on this?

Just published a detailed development update here: https://rados.io/posts/saturnnetwork-update-11122017

Hello dev, need local community manager? I want to reserve it if you need

Thank you for such a full answer, it's all clear. But still I would like more updates and new publications

there's a new update on our website (and I updated the OP to include a link to it).

As far as new publications go, we're currently focused on developing an introductory course to cryptocurrencies, sort of crypto 101. What is bitcoin and blockchain, which wallets you should use, which exchanges are legit and how to use them. Is this something that would be interesting to you?

If not, what kind of publications you'd personally love to see on Rados?

i look in top of thread there is sentence if the ICO will coming soon right, i still waiting that project of ICO and i will stay here to became first participant to join it,

Have not finished a bit of your message ;D

Come hang out with us on Telegram! Will be happy to get to know you guys better and answer any questions about Rados that you might have :D https://t.me/rados

Just published the source code for Radex on Github, the smart contract is now open source! The first decentralized exchange for ERC223 tokens is about to go live very soon.

Those of you who speak code - check it out https://github.com/rados-io/radex

A product of recent research allows us to upgrade any existing ERC20 token to ERC223 standard, which makes them tradeable on Radex too! Read more about it here: https://rados.io/posts/erc20-erc223-upgrade-path

Big updates! New community forum, Radex launch date, and community vote for what tokens will be listed on Radex - we plan to have a new token (or a few) every week! Find out more here https://rados.io/posts/saturn-network-update-12112017

To spare you an extra click, Radex goes to mainnet on December 13th, for now with ETH/STN trading pair, more tokens will be added per votes on forum.rados.io

Radex is live! https://rados.io/posts/radex-alpha-is-live

When does your ICO start ?

ICO is scheduled to start on the 1st May 2018,judging  by information on the main site

"Saturn Network Launch First Decentralized Exchange On ETC" added for voting, proof and forecast on YEENOT TODAY https://yeenot.today/catalog/news/328
good for ETC price and community?

Saturn Network successfully launched Radex Classic today bringing the first decentralized exchange to Ethereum Classic network. After releasing Saturn Wallet earlier this week, a wallet that supports accessing decentralized applications both on Ethereum and Ethereum Classic blockchains from your browser, team Saturn went one step further with migrating Radex over to the ETC chain.

Radex is a zero fees uncensorable decentralized exchange for trading Ethereum tokens, it is the only DEX that supports ERC20 & ERC223 tokens, in fact, it has a very unique architecture that allows it to run completely on chain removing any need of overhead costs or centralization concerns. And now that very same exchange has been deployed onto Ethereum Classic. This is a crucial milestone for the future of both Ethereum Classic and Saturn Network’s project, as it centers around building a whole ecosystem of decentralized exchanges across multiple blockchains, with the team showing this week that they are capable of producing real technology across Ethereum & Ethereum Classic.

SATURN NETWORK has been listed on IcoGuide. Find out more here https://icoguide.com/en/ico/saturn