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Which coin should I keep? I mean it will going to seperated but which is going to be profitable more ?

I am quite sure, that bitcoin will stay the leading cryptocurrency and bcc maybe will even disappear . But you needn't choose against bitcoin or bcc. You will get bcc for free 1:1 if you are owner of bitcoin. So you can  watch what will happen before you exchange your coins.

dont believe on BCC

BCC is silly altcoin.

BTC will remain BTC.

I just trust Btc not Bcc.

Everywhere I checked, people are mostly against BCC so BTC will remain the main choice.

Hold both but BTC will be always the big one

Sell your BCC for BTC and enjoy the free money

I think BTC is still the option I choose because more exchanger still accept BTC rather than BCC. You can cash your BCC if you don't convert into BTC. BCC will be the next asset become it is going to be new  coin. New coin not accepted by exchanger because it has no infrastructur like BTC.

It's your decision mate. What if people here will told you to hold BTC or BCC then it doesn't goes to the direction you want, you will blame them? If you believe in bitcoin then hold it while on the other hand, if you believe that BCC will give you more profit then choose BCC.

Analyze the current trend and spend time to think where do you stand your side.

Be careful when referring Bitcoin Cash as BCC, because this is BitCoinnect.

I would prefer BTC but would recommend to checkout for alts as an option
most of the alts are falling hard, its not bad to pick few of good alts

There is only one true king!

BTC has the majority support so will have the highest price but as to which one will be the most profitable is a difficult question to answer. BCC is untested but could prove to become more profitable over time and will likely always have some value just as ETC does in the ETC/ETH comparison.

So 1 aug i go to shop to buy cigarettes,i pay from my pocket in btc cash,in what currency i will get a change
If seagweet will be succesfoul bcc wil die.I dont trust bcc all that situation is owful

BCC is the sad manifestation of a very small yet very loud group of people who believe they know better for everyone else. They believe they represent everyone while they are utterly disconnected from the silent majority who actually uses BTC on a daily basis.

They are the people you can't possibly argue with, and if BTC was launched with 8 MB blocks, they'd still do the same but with a higher number.

They can't possibly understand that transactions should have a price and Bitcoin is not intended for dust transactions. Even if the blocksize was 50 MB, eventually casinos, dice games and various services would fill the blocks with dust transactions requiring users to increase their fees to compete. It's a very simple notion they can't seem to understand.

After <insert the latest fork proposition> propaganda ended, we now currently have 10223 unconfirmed transactions (which is very low) compared to 100k+ when the network was spammed by supporters of various fork attempts.

And considering how high BTC's price is and how many new people are interested in it, the backlog is really nothing. Besides, with 8MB blocks, the whole network could be spammed for the same amount of money - if transaction fees are linear.

You have to have a market for transactions, because spamming the network will always happen! 100k transaction backlog with 1MB blocks or 800k transactions with 8 MB blocks doesn't make any difference at al - it costs the same!


Besides, transaction fees going to miners are intended as blockrewards decrease...

The whole thins only really going to temporarily set BTC back in exchange of having some power over it. But at least the real BCC buy walls will actually show how many people actually care about this abomination.

PS.: what a dumb name Bitcoin Cash actually is?

We need to see how and what a bitcoincash breakthrough, I am quite curious about this coin because it can be directly owned for free in accordance with amount of btc in our exchanges wallet. Many people have negative connotations, but it's natural because there is no business proposal from this coin that has been proven.

I'll tell u smth boy. Bitcoin Cash means that by means of by far larger adjustable block size BCC will be able to process all transactions it needs to. Adjustable block cap means that there will not be such an issue like people defecting from bitcoin because it's congested like toilet pipe and crowded by speculators and gamblers. BitcoinCash is the future, while Bitcoin BIP148 is sinking shit. it's going down, boy

It is very normal that people will have negative connotations about it, they are like that in bitcoin at first, after all. In my opinion, bitcoin cash would be just like ethereum classic, that is always having some percent of value so I think it will still be worth it to hold both btc and bcc when the time comes, they can also both be as profitable as it is now. For now I think it bcc would have a dump, after all many will get it for free.

Bitcoin already processes all transactions it needs to. You'd know if you'd use it and not just talk about using it.

Go back to your ciclejerk that is /r/btc, "boy". Regardless of block sizes, transactions will eventually cost the same because you can spam 1MB blocks just the same as 8MB blocks for the same amount of money if fees scale linearly. Maybe try understanding basic principles like this instead of calling people "boys".

Whose needs are covered by bitcoin right now?Besides of gamblers and speculators? Can u buy yourself a cup of coffee or a bus ticket not risking to spend all day in coffeshop or riding on the bus in circles-jerkles?

Who said Bitcoin is intended for buying coffee or bus tickets? With 10 minute transactions it's pretty clear it's intended for much bigger transactions. You can't buy a coffee and wait 20-30 minutes for the first confirmation in case blocks are late regardless of transaction fees.

Even without transaction fees, higher block sizes will not help you buy your cup of coffee. Bitcoin has grown to be too big to be used for tiny shit like that. And that is completely fine!

I buy most things above $100 with Bitcoin but I would never even want to buy small stuff that's payment is very time sensitive.

Btc remains number one, will never be replaced. Bcc would be altcoin and that's for sure. But when bcc is obtained for free, all also want. 8) :D

I will remain to btc. I don't know yet what is BCC? BitcoinCash? I don't want to choose of the two. Bitcoincash
 is not yet happened so I will go for bitcoin. It is necessary to distinguish whether the money is still visible to others or not. Bitcoin exists on the internet so no one couldn't hold a large amount of money and it is decentralized so everyone can own bitcoin.

Hold only Bitcoin because only Bitcoin has potential become better and only Bitcoin has a good future.

I prefer Bitcoin than BCC.

I would not even dare to ask what kind of "stuff" u're purchasing with this currency, but nevertheless let me ask u this: what value has money which cannot obtain u even a cup of coffee? How many people actually use bitcoin to buy toys, furnitures or rent a room or whatever else online? Or rather bitcoin community consist mostly from speculators and gamblers + ponzi scheme operators who don't see any intrinsic value in bitcoin and just exploiting this new fad for their own avid ambitions? I don't want this shit, I want scalable convenient currency not some get-rich-quick bunkum.

I buy all kinds of shit with BTC from PC hardware to softwares, appliances and furnitures, sometimes even services if I can - and most of the time the BTC accepting webshops I use have the stuff I need.

Why are you being stuck up on coffee? It's not like you're buying coffee with bonds, checkbooks or gold shavings off of an ingot either.

Why are you trying to shit on Bitcoin saying that it's filled with gamblers and scammers? The same Bitcoin you're trying to argue it only really needs bigger blocks to be perfect?

You're not making any sense at all here. And as I said, considering how many people use Bitcoin nowadays we can say that it did scale sp far pretty damn well. And without network spams it can handle a whole lot more. It wouldn't worth $2780(!) otherwise.

But seriously though, let me ask your argument against this; let's say with 8MB blocks transaction sizes become 1/8th of what they are now (not that it would still be optimal to buy coffe because of the slow block times but whatever). That would mean that if someone were to spam the network as it was the case weeks ago spending, let's say 0.5 BTC each day (just a random number) with 8 MB blocks he could fill all the 8MB blocks for the same amount of 0.5 Bitcoins. So what's the difference?

OP is talking like he has thousands of Bitcoins lol most old time holders already sold their coins and now only some large companies and of course governments are holding most of the coins anyways.
You must keep the few Bitcoins that you have and remember the other coin is just an alt coin.

If this is going to be just like ethereum classic I am in favor of that because I am going to get Bitcoin cash free, but judging from how the people react we are going to have a massive dumps after we got ourselves this free coin, I would like to see how the market reacts first..

Exciting times for all of us.

Of course As for me I will still choose Bitcoins ,  Bitcoin was already widely spread and developed , many companies from small medium enterprises unto large companies has already absorb the technology of bitcoins , Personally I use bitcoins for my daily activities ,  Bitcoins cash is just an altcoin that uses bitcoin for its marketing strategy , but of course everyone has entitled of their own opinion this was just for me.

BCC dump is expected, most of people plan to sell their BCC for bitcoin, however, I prefer holding them for some time.

Why not keep both of BTC and BCC? If you buy 1 btc now and withdraw them to your wallet, after August 1st, you will probably have 1 btc and 1 bcc.

You can have BCC for all the BTC's you own on August 1st. What will you by holding them.? Thinking it would beat BTC one day and have more value.? Let me know how people will shift from BTC to BCC.

Since it's expected that BCC's price will only go down, likely trading all to BTC as soon as possible is the best way. Unless there will be a pump later.

But, it's all speculation.

Considering how silly the BCC project is, I don't want anything to do with it and will get rid of it as soon as I can in exchange for free BTC and the tears or anti-BTC zealots.


Read my earlier comments. Block size increase solving transaction fees is a delusion and BCC offers nothing else at all. It won't solve absolutely anything.

I just sent my Bitcoins to a Bitcoin Cash wallet by mistake, did i lost my coins? or will they be converted to Bitcoin Cash coins after August the first ?

Bitcoin Cash doesn't exists yet.

Mmmm...just bitcoin.  Don't know much about BCC and perhaps I'll be getting some come the split, but as everyone has said, bitcoin is bitcoin. 
There is never going to be a substitute for bitcoin, at least not in my opinion. 
I am very curious to see how it all works out.  I've read the debate and it has indeed been furious at times.
If BCC takes off and leaves BTC in the dust...well, perhaps I'll reconsider my position.  But I do not think that's going
to happen.

yah, but i used BitcoinABC Wallet and the transaction is successfully made

I'm not familiar with them but they seem to heavily supporting BCC.

Either way you should be able to withdraw your coins into a non-custodial wallet such as Electrum where you are in command of your private keys (and therefore actually owning your Bitcoins).

I'm not sure but I'd guess BitcoinABC is a custodial wallet in which case you're trusting them to handle your Bitcoins.

Whatever the case might be you should be able to withdraw your coins or get both BTC and BCC - otherwise you're being scammed.

BCC for small transactions

Here currently you can't have BCC because only btc can be handle by you with the ownership of the private key .
But probably your question will be better after the fork splitting after the 1 August ( chances are both to split or not ) .
Here ig we can take example of the ETH coin fork then we can say that both of the coin will be useful , because here
ETH and ETC both of them have values at about 0.07btc/ETH/ETC  coin .
So may be in the starting the value of the splitted coin will be low but it will be more better for us to keep everything
And wait until we reach at a best price and then make money in bulk  ( like those who bought btc at 3$ and now selling ) .
So we have the coin like BTC which will be available to buy at very low rate .

I think both will be profitable. Why profitable for example you have 1btc and on the 1st of August you will also get 1bcc and can be traded. This is very profitable.

BitcoinABC is like Bitcoin Core wallet, it downloads all the blockchain to Sync with the network (full node), the problem is that it uses different algorithm to generate the address from a private key.

That already sounds like a shit way of doing things, considering BCC isn't even exist but that's all I'm going to say as I'm not familiar with them.

But surely, you should be able to withdraw your Bitcoins some way.

BCC will be ignored by most of the exchange and all of us are going to stick with the real / core BTC. It's very obvious that bitcoin is more profitable rather than BCC but you can also sell your BCC after August with some of the exchange that are already accepting BCC on their list. But don't stay with BCC, go for the real bitcoin.

Maybe i should wait until the hard fork to see what's gonna happen  :D
Anyway, thank you so much for your help.

The best choice between bitcoins BTC and bitcoins cash BCC is hold all of them, however BCC is free coin because of the bitcoin's hard fork, there is no wrong if you hold BCC, but in my opinions bitcoins BTC will be more expensive in the future because the bug of bitcoin's network has been fixed, if the bitcoin's hard fork is succesfull and there are no other problem be found on bitcoin's network in the future.

Unless this is a known troll acount I'm not aware of, thinking that you somehow convinced some people that you're Satoshi... blows my mind and makes me laugh uncontrollably.

oh god, the lulz

"but how will I buy my coffee with small blocksize"

For fucks sake, some people just cant think past the end of their trailer park.

BTC is not for buying Starbucks,  It's not even for buying cars.  It may end up being for buying houses, but I rather doubt it.

The use case for BTC is large settlements, like container ships full of goods or downtown buildings or corporate mergers.

Bitcoin DOES NOT HAVE TO SCALE, and these retards whining about it are really starting to get on my nerves. 

Buy your goddamn coffee with an altcoin or on a sidechain and leave this to the adults K?

It's increasing cost of the attack for him, don't you see?  Let's suppose we have a basket and eggs and basket can  hold only amount of 2 eggs - how much will it take to fill it up?

And imagine further that basket capacity has been increased by equivalent of 8, how much eggs do you need now to fill it up? 8 times more.

P.S. I've read in Mike Hearn's blogpost that 8 in Chinese means smth like wealth or affluence, so i like this number, it foretells good times for us all.

Hey, you remember about BITCOIN UNLIMITED (BTU)
Now there is bitcoin cash (BCC) coin_cash
After this will probably be more terms other BITCOIN ??
Just adding keyword "BITCOIN"
Examples: Unlimited Bitcoin, BitcoinBit, BitcoinX, Bitcoinearth, or Bitcoin clasic.
I'm not support coin cash, sorry :'( and i not believe Coin Cash can compete with Bitcoin,
I believe that sathosi does not contribute to this coin.

bit_coin_cash, hmmm the strange spelling
It will be worth shortened to Bitcash, but the name already has copyright.

What are you even talking about? Increasing blocksize does not increase the cost of filling the network. You can't have both; cheap transactions and expensive cost of attacking the network!

You represent way too well the blind and retarded propaganda seen on /r/btc I've been describing here so well that I'm starting to think you're a troll account.

And I thought I was drunk.

If i were you i would keep both coins. I know BCC would be useless because we do still believe on bitcoin but instead of neglecting BCC better to hold of those coins for future purposes. We wont know if it would rise up just like what happen on ETC. Possibilities are there which means holding up wont really be a bad idea after all. If i do have some bitcoin i would really just let it split and keep those for future plans.

Regarding Bitcoin ABC. ABC stands for Adjustable Block Cap, that means that with growth of demand for mempool space, blocks are adjusted in size accordingly. BCC or BCH is just implementation of this concept. And AFAIK BCC is now is like BTC in all aspects, fork will happen only after tomorrow. As of by now, it's totally the same thing. But one will surpass another and devour it, because of much higher capacity for free transactions

I will keep both coins so long as they are both going to be profitable, but I will use them both either way but I will use the one that is better more frequently, since I will be using the better one not just for investment purposes, I will use it to pay others as well for services. If I found bcc useless after august 1, for sure I will dump it without hesitation but if it still has it's uses, I will use it and the same goes to the other, but most probably bcc is the one that is going down because too many people will get it for free.

You really don't read anything I wrote so far.

The argument behind any increased blocksize proposition is deeply flawed; let's say the blocksize becomes 1 gigabytes. Transaction fees would cost 1/1000 of what they are now do you can all buy your latte's with BTC without fees (except for the 10 minute blocktimes). But the problem you all seem to ignore or unable to comprehend is that spamming 1GB of transactions would cost the same fucking amount (using a very simple script) as it is today to spam the 1 MB costs. It's the exact same situation!

You have to have a transaction fee market, there's no way around that.

Until now, everyone has his idea. But over all, these are all speculations, some have good bases while some do not. If you try to go over the articles from experts on this debate, they are really torn into half. Some BCC and some BTC. If you end up unconvinced by one party of perhaps convinced by both, hold BTC and BCC all the same and wait for a short while to know which among the two will rise and which will fall.

I'll probably stick with the original BTC if the fork will really occur that is. I think most of us bitcoin holders would do that too.

I think you should decide after 2months from the split, because we still can't say for sure what coin will emerge to the top. but i think it's btc and bcc will disappear eventually.

bcc = free money

Yes i agree with you still believe with BTC, but if you want try to invest to BCC better should decide after 2 month to know how BCC coin market price movements and who will the top.  :)

Maybe = trashy or some cents per BCC after distribuite by panic selling from most trader on market ::)

I thinks so, I like one BTC and other coin

Another altcoin won't harm, and i don't know why such a big deal about this? There will always be buyers. Better stick for original, don't be greedy, you can loose in this game. BCC could be fiasco really soon if BTC cross over 3k keep this in mind.

bcc = copy cut of bitcoin

This coin should not be release in the market, it just lead confusion to others.
The bitcoin community needs to do something about this or else it will get worst.
I dont know why they need to make a coin that's only a copy cut, why dont they just leave bitcoin and mind their own business. Well, Calin Culianu good luck to you sir.

You can try to keep both of them or just try to get your free BCC and dump your bcc for free money in the market. because BCC is just another parasite for the real bitcoin. BCC just a clone like ethereum classic.
So what is the future for the clone comparing with the real one and i can say it is nothing to say.

Majority of people are saying that BCC is a silly coin, no value, altcoin, shitcoin and they hate it. If it.is really the case once August 1 came, can you all just give it to me??

Will you bother to get your BCC if its nothing to you or no value?

BTC is not the king in terms of features and we need to accept it that it needs to scale up. Now a brave new group is scaling up and trying to provide faster transactions processing, with an 8Mb block size and fully decentralized. There are a lot of coins out there that is better than BTC but people is still holding on. But once it started to crash down will you still stand on your bitcoin? Or you will be the first one to sell? Reality check.

The improvement is available now at BCC while BTC has a promise to improve. What if it fail to deliver?

New breed of coins are coming out now and we know BTC cant stay to be number 1 if it will not scale up. New coins like STRAT, EOS, ETH are now offering features that bitcoin lacks and still a few people are buying it. But once FUD start to go around then people jumps to the band wagon.

It is really a perception of people, if you believe that you holding on something that has a value then you will keep it and treasure it. But weigh things with an open mind. Will you close your mind for something that will give you more value because of more advantages? It is something that is being given to you and they are now taking anything away aside from your value of perception. We are the people that gives value to our coins. If we say it as valuable then it will have value. But if we say it as a thing if no value then it will not have any value. That simple.

For me, i wont close my mind for something that has a more value over the other. Anyway i will have equal quantity of BCC and BTC. I will keep both and maybe more for i may possibly get all your BCC. Dont forget to give me your BCC guys. ;)

Just jump ship to LTC .It has all the Goods.and non of the drama

Come one if that would be so EASY to make money we should create BTC fork every week . BTC for Joe on birthday BTC for Jane for passing exam...
Come on ...  if you don't like something that you can make your won altcoin this is no mbrainer. But conntecting BCC to BTC if fukcing joke.
I and my friends we will also release BTC Supernowa with 1s blocks and with unlimited block that way we will be better from all alts.

How the fuck 8MB will give you faster transaction processing if probably you will never fill that 8MB with real transactions.

Fully decentralized - LOL fukicng next JOKE 2 developers vs 100+ developers...
few miners vs whole network and  BCC will be hard centralized around Via pool Jihan and Roger Ver.

In BTC you have ful decentralization and you see that in decision making HOW hard is make changes there allmost all alts have 0 problem.
Dev will come with code and bamm READY :D

all peoples holding BTC to get free BCC, they just take advantage then they will dump BCC and bitcoin still leads with higher prices.

None of it matters to me as long as I'm getting my hard earned profits. If the BCC is chicken laying the gold eggs then I'm with her otherwise I have already married to BTC to trust. It all depends on august 1st week and story later in the week. Let's just be patient about everything and note down the plans for upcoming BCC vs BTC war.

I expect that the story with BCC will be the same as we already know from observing what happened to Ethereum after the split.
The main Bitcoin chain will continue to grow, thrive and become even more successful while this BCC will be forever stuck at 1% of BTC value.
But of course, before August 1 we have no idea whether we will even see BCC at all.

bitcoin, bitcoin, bitcoin. I cannot emphasize that enough. It may not be the best coin according to some, but as an investment, it is wayyyyy ahead of every other coin and you cannot go wrong with it.

Well, with 1 BTC, you will have a chance to have 1 BCC but in my opinion, BCC price won't be as high as BTC so that I decide to continue to keep my BTC and wait for BCC price to go up them sell it.

Until now, I haven't been able to say anything before, but I think everyone will still choose BTC more than BCC. It won't be the same with ETH and ETC, both of which would eliminate each other to gain the throne and if so I would still choose BTC.

For sure BTC will still have greater value than the new coin which is BCC because of the split so if you ask me which is profitable, most probably BCC but that is not for sure yet and I can say it is profitable because its value is still low and might increase its value in time so you will have more chances of profit.

I think it depends on the "2x" of segwit 2x. It is unlikely 2x will fail but if it does, i can see high probability that BCC will be being bigger then ripple.

BTC  STILL IN  THE FRONT.
what if btc runs out. Maybe all altcoin will weaken.so does with BCC

Quite confuse, now BCC equal to Bitcoin cash or Bitconnect Coin that discuss on this thread?

BCC short-term after the intervention is also a good choice

Probably both of them, keep both of them because maybe that bcc will vloom in the future and you might regret it. So my advice is keep them both,  I know it will help you on the future. And besides it is also a bitcoins so I know it also have the potential. Just trust and think if your coins are worth it to keep of not.

I think bitcoin will be superior here, they have a very good foundation. And in this case, I also trust bitcoin rather than bcc. So, the bitcoin will win

i choose btc. ;D ;D

bitcoin > any altcoin. BCC is just an altcoin, nothing more.

Still BTC, it already establish it's name and got the trust from every users, BCC will only be like an option like any other alt. It might not get any attention in the next few days after split. It will be there but nevertheless we will still chose to have btc.

Do you realy think that creating atcoin like BCC will make it sucess in day 0 ?
You won't create wealth out of nothwere so you need work hard to create success.
On market is really hard to beat leader -for me BCC is poor atemp to take over BTC.
This is joke to me.

I choose BTC. BCC just only became popular recently. You should go with the one who gains the trust of many. BTC has been running through years. It gains trust of investors and people who support it. It also has a greater foundation. Whatever and how many alt coins that may arise in the future I would only choose BTC.

I really prefer bitcoin over any other coins but a the present situation it is hard to say what would be the price of BCC in the future and whether they will be getting more valuation and so on,i will be waiting for the market to settle down before making a decision on what to do with the free coins i will be getting.

BTC forever!!!

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Keep all your bitcoins on private keys that you control. Do not store them at exchanges or online wallets where you do not control the private keys.
Do not send or receive bitcoins starting on July 31. Just hodl and wait for the hard fork to play out.
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I think you should keep both. Are best example in the crypto world is ETH/ETC. First, a lot of people thought ETC was a scam. However, they have managed to get a good team around it. The people that kept their ETC have been rewarded very well. Only the future truly knows the fate of BTC/BCC.

I think it is best to hold both for a while until dust settles. Anyway, BTC holders are getting BCC for free.

I think I am going to hold both of them for a while until the things are settled. BTC will be the superior but I think BCC will also have some kind of market and demand and use

It seems that the same story is repeated again ETH/ETC,in the end there seems to be a dominant chain and another chain weaker,probably the BCC price will drop until to $100 because many people may feel inclined to
dump chop-chop.

just confusion  but I think btc better than bcc
my choice btc
thanks

Guys i need to collect my BCC now from you who hated it most and even called it as shit coin and parasite.

Now is trading at $699. Where are you guys?

i choose Bitcoin because Bitcoin has a high rate and   Bitcoin is better than BCC.