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Statists are coming to our Bitcoins.

Bring it on!

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25304483.jpg

Quick!  Convert to USD...er, wait...

I'd bet you could 3-D print a grenade launcher a hell of a lot easier than a gun...

DHS incoming in 3, 2...

Don't you mean precious metals?

Unleash the wrath of Russian and Chinese hacktivists on DHS?

sky falling - run!

IRS targets Tea Party members....
Associated Press has its journalist's phone records seized...

This is not just a war on Bitcoin it is a war on freedom and liberty.

And one of these days everyone has to decide which side they are on.

Math wins anyday.  8)

Interesting tweet.

Taleb is my fav mega-genius

Nah, he discovered the black swan, but Satoshi made one.

Anyone else enjoying this recent news related panic sell off?  I know I am!

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Before you all get your panties in a bunch, this might actually be something like an attempt to crack down on online gambling and not a direct assault on bitcoin - even though the outcome is the same..

Speaking of which:

evoorhees: How do you deal with being an American running a gambling site(satoshiDICE)?

If the US government wanted to attack Bitcoin, it'd be doing a lot more than freezing a single Dwolla account.  Some drug dealer probably used Dwolla to send money or some other such nonsense, so they froze the MtGox account to make sure it wouldn't go anywhere.

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Yeah right? I can't believe I didn't put that together before. satoshiDICE is clearly illegal and what Herodes said could be true. They might not be going after Bitcoin but the illegal gambling funds that are moving through MtGox!

Agree! GTA 2, 3, 4 and 5 wouldn't exist if it weren't for people trying to ban the first one. Maybe we should run a campaign to get bitcoin banned with the ultimately failing off course.

I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

I don't think so. There is only one place where you can legally gamble on-line in the USA right now: http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/30/first-legal-online-gambling-site-launches-in-the-u-s-but-only-for-nevada-residents-for-now/

Only for nevada residents though, so interstate commerce tax laws don't apply.

See -> http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/05/is-online-poker-legal-again.html

Specifically the part about "Interstate Commerce Clause"

Right but, unfortunately, that does nothing to help satoshiDICE. The new Nevada legal on-line gambling is heavily regulated with checks to verify the age and residency of the gambler. satoshiDICE is operating in a way that allows minors to gamble. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that most of the gamblers on satoshiDICE are under 21. To the fucked up moral majority in 'merica you may as well be handing a kid a beer. 

Not to mention the potential for unregulated pornography.

Not the "P" word! That word burns my eyes like acid. Wait here a minute while I go get my giant wooden cross and some gasoline. LOL

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Bannings: Signs of the times..More to come..people will give in eventually.

As more people consider the state as 'them' rather than 'us', the less they will support its actions.

Over the last few years I have observed the sentiment shifting. Whether it is because of the global depression, the monetary system, the overreach of successive governments, I don't know. The why doesn't really matter though; it's the conclusion of such sentiment.

When the state becomes the opposition of the people, it cannot last in its existing form. I'm not saying we are close to that point yet, but we're closer than we have been in my lifetime.

How old are you?

Not old enough.

I could make that statement - and have - but I lived through the sixties...

When you think about it, the problems today don't compare with the '60s and '70s when the Doomsday Clock was always a couple of minutes to midnight.

34 - Not that old, granted. It feels old enough though! ;)

The Doomsday Clock is irrelevant.  It's just another circus we're made to consume with our bread.  Governments don't control the world any more - and the people who do control it don't really care about nationalism, and other out-dated ideas like that.  Nobody's going to drop atomic weapons on the source of their wealth and power.

I am young, but I am very sure that the Hippies didn't pose a threat to the established at all, unlike us.

Don't underestimate the hippies nor over estimate us.

I think there are many 'hippies' here among us.

Unfortunately, many are like dank and completely useless for anything other than entertainment.

Did you mess up the translation?

"DONT FUCK ON ME"?

"Get your banging asses off of me"

lol :D

* sigh *  That's what people see, but it has no bearing - or very, very little - on what those times were actually about.  It was the most intense political period the US had seen since the Civil War.  We came closer to an actual shooting revolution than you'd believe - after 40-50 years of corporate-owned media pushing all the drugs/sex/rock'n'roll crap that had little to do with what was really going on.  Not that that part wasn't fun...

The establishment are always seeking to alienate and turn others against free thinkers. I suspect the hippy/peace movement in the 60s was much the same.

I was actually speaking to my father about the 60s the other month. He said that the Internet, Bitcoin etc reminded him of some of the things many in the 60s were seeking to achieve. Ofc, they goals weren't reached in some ways, but in many others culture was changed permanently.

I think I there may have been a good part in 'The Century of Self' documentaries about this. I can't remember though and it's a 4 hour series so I can't scan through. Here is the link for those interested though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7EwXmxpExw

This time, we have the Internet. This has lead to wide spread, unregulated communications. It has lead to pressure on censorship, intellectual property and now the monetary system. It's a system which allows strong protest movements, which are very hard for monolithic states to control. Perhaps this time, the freedom craved by some in the 60s will have a better chance of materialising - it's certainly much harder to discredit such positions now.

This is no war ... just a little expected jostling

If it ever came to war ...

... Satoshi would return ...

Sometime during the Chinese "Cultural Revolution" , a old communist general, after being subjected to intense beating and denunciation by the red guards,  told them "Wait and see, after the revolution, those who should be generals will still be generals, those who should be soldiers will still be soldiers." We can't put all blames for the corruption on people in power, if things end up being the same no matter who is in charge, it must be because, things have to work that way because there is no better way until a technical revolution fundamentally transforms the landscape.

I did not mean the hippies are incapable or what, it's just the time was not ripe, heck we didn't even have personal computers or asymmetric encryption then, the things we are doing now are unimaginable at that time.

Yes.  And the greatest battle fought thusfar was the battle for cryptography.  And we actually won that one.  Use it or lose it, people...

But here, we fight the battle for money.  And I note that without cryptography we wouldn't have a chance in hell.

My greatest fear is how physically complacent people have gotten.  No - sitting at home and banging a keyboard is no substitute for getting out there and doing real shit.  The internet - as good and perfect a tool as it is for many things - is no substitute for action in the real world.

We have some other tools too; speaking of the real world.  Drones come to mind - especially in concert with 3-D printing.  They are perfect for fighting our terrible and cowardly media infrastructure, and for exposing corporate misdeeds (especially environmental).

I have high hopes for this generation...

Let me take a whack at re-phrasing that nice story:

The problem with political systems is that the people who have power are the kind of people who want it.

Fix that problem and you fix the world.

It might look like a war only they don't know that we have already won!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTAPZIsX0zU#t=12m22s

We are the majority http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs&list=UUFeK8ZdHbCqAq3gekWs8aEQ&index=34

We'll kick their asses  ;D

War on smug is sending bitcoin and apple prices falling