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Title: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Potent on August 01, 2017, 03:12:14 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: tiggytomb on August 01, 2017, 03:18:47 PM
Yes because it is a divergence from the current bitcoin so would mean it is an alternative version of bitcoin so altcoin it is, regardless if more people support it and it becomes the leader it is still an altcoin, in my eyes anyway.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: Edwardard on August 01, 2017, 03:20:03 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
It is an altcoin which has same features of Bitcoin with few modifications which they so call as improved version of bitcoin. Anything other than Bitcoin, in the crypto world is an altcoin.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: sarabanda on August 01, 2017, 03:21:19 PM
Why we need this BCC if we have normal old bitcoin ???


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: PuertoLibre on August 01, 2017, 03:21:42 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

If bitcoin is gonna to get splitted there will be new coin which called bitcoin cash  alternative to current known btc. You can sell/buy/purchase stuff like you do them with bitcoins.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: Creepings on August 01, 2017, 03:27:33 PM
Why we need this BCC if we have normal old bitcoin ???

Because the people behind this "alternative coin" think that bitcoin is not really the digital currency they've looked up in the past and they want it to make a turn. If you can read the other posts, it has the same features as bitcoin but with a few modifications. So I think you can say an altcoin with their dream feature to bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: liuqi on August 01, 2017, 03:28:05 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
It is an altcoin which has same features of Bitcoin with few modifications which they so call as improved version of bitcoin. Anything other than Bitcoin, in the crypto world is an altcoin.

Bro i have understood this still want to know, where they get the copyrights to split the bitcoin into Bcash or altcoin. Since it is not owned copyright by anyone and satoshi not revealed. How this can be modified and create a new altcoin?


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: jhkmjnhamster on August 01, 2017, 03:30:11 PM
altcoin ? BCC is a shitcoin. why would anyone use it at all ?


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: BitcoinBarrel on August 01, 2017, 03:31:49 PM
Yes, if it weren't it would be called "Bitcoin"


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: mrcash02 on August 01, 2017, 03:32:09 PM
There can be only one Bitcoin in the world and that is the one we know very well, all other manipulated currencies being created will be always AltCoins. Doesn't matter the name, it can be Bitcoin Future, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Digital... They will be always AltCoins like any other currency that is created every new day.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: AK47- on August 01, 2017, 03:32:53 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
Bitcoin cash is an altcoin because it has different blockchain than that of Bitcoin. It will be operated separately. It has its own features like 8mb block size and is not supporting Segwit. In other words it is not Bitcoin thus an altcoin. It has its own market and thus would vary independent of Bitcoin.

Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
It is an altcoin which has same features of Bitcoin with few modifications which they so call as improved version of bitcoin. Anything other than Bitcoin, in the crypto world is an altcoin.

Bro i have understood this still want to know, where they get the copyrights to split the bitcoin into Bcash or altcoin. Since it is not owned copyright by anyone and satoshi not revealed. How this can be modified and create a new altcoin?
There is no copyright issue because Bitcoin is decentralised driven by various miners. Miners have full right to support any blockchain they wish. They didn't like Segwit. Hence wanted to bring their own proposal. The blockchain popularity wil depend upon the users like us. How much we support it.


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: AleSergio on August 01, 2017, 03:34:19 PM
Yes it is altcoin. Altcoins are all the coins that are not bitcoin. It is a fork for bitcoin and nothing more :) I also think that the price is to high at the moment for it.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: LouVandetta on August 01, 2017, 03:34:28 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
Yes, I mean, Bitcoin Cash is basically a new altcoin that is splitting off from the Bitcoin blockchain.
So it is a splitted part of "Bitcoin".

Anything that have been fork from its core is an altcoin, I think.




Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: Potent on August 01, 2017, 03:35:58 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

I extended the question.

It is an altcoin which has same features of Bitcoin with few modifications

Then BTC Segwit is an altcoin either? because it has few modifications too.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: care2yak on August 01, 2017, 03:36:45 PM
Yes because it is a divergence from the current bitcoin so would mean it is an alternative version of bitcoin so altcoin it is, regardless if more people support it and it becomes the leader it is still an altcoin, in my eyes anyway.

this has somewhat fazed me as well... the original bitcoin didn't have segwit and didn't have larger blocks, so, the bitcoin running now, which has segwit, and the forked one - bitcoin cash, whose blocksize was increased, are both modifications of the original.  ;D so that means the original bitcoin is gone (?)  ???


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: gilangIDR on August 01, 2017, 03:41:20 PM
Yes it is altcoin. Altcoins are all the coins that are not bitcoin. It is a fork for bitcoin and nothing more :) I also think that the price is to high at the moment for it.
Digital currency other than bitcoin we call it an altcoin. So the price is too high for an altcoin and they are not bitcoin. We wait for the next news, fork process is happening but there is no sign of block created for bcash.


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 01, 2017, 03:42:37 PM
Yes it is altcoin. Altcoins are all the coins that are not bitcoin. It is a fork for bitcoin and nothing more :) I also think that the price is to high at the moment for it.

Correction : it is an altcoin, yes. But I think you are discriminating the other coins when you say it like that, just say it as a digital coins forked from bitcoin. Also, it is not fork "for" bitcoin but fork "from" bitcoin.


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: BrewMaster on August 01, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
I extended the question.
Then BTC Segwit is an altcoin either? because it has few modifications too.

bitcoin is a defined cryptocurrency with a set of consensus rules that everyone using it has accepted them.
any change that changes these rules will create a different version of bitcoin which is happening through a fork.

if the majority accept that fork it becomes the new bitcoin if they don't it usually goes away or is worked on and improved and comes back to try again. if they go through with it, then the fork becomes an altcoin because the majority have rejected it.

BCC has little support (minority) => altcoin
SegWit has the majority support => bitcoin


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: kokojie on August 01, 2017, 03:43:10 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

BCC although a fork from Bitcoin, is more inline with Satoshi's original vision. It was Satoshi's original intention to scale by increasing Block Size. Satoshi had no intention of having something like segwit integrated into Bitcoin. Basically BCC = Bitcoin purist

BTC segwit although still mainstream, is being held hostage by a rogue CORE dev team, they are not inline with Satoshi's original vision, segwit is a danger to decentralization and Satoshi's vision of Bitcoin being a "P2P Electronic Cash system".


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: Pamadar on August 01, 2017, 03:44:54 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
yes since its another coin which just did improvement or so called improvement from the current bitcoin, but i don't think that we need it as we knew that
bitcoin still been recognize by many investors and traders i don't see any big impact of bcc with this current adoption.


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: Edwardard on August 01, 2017, 03:46:01 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

I extended the question.

It is an altcoin which has same features of Bitcoin with few modifications

Then BTC Segwit is an altcoin either? because it has few modifications too.
No, because segwit nodes and old nodes can run on the same blockchain but BCH/BCC and BTC will run on different chains.


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: Pamadar on August 01, 2017, 03:48:59 PM
Yes it is altcoin. Altcoins are all the coins that are not bitcoin. It is a fork for bitcoin and nothing more :) I also think that the price is to high at the moment for it.
Digital currency other than bitcoin we call it an altcoin. So the price is too high for an altcoin and they are not bitcoin. We wait for the next news, fork process is happening but there is no sign of block created for bcash.
though its belong to central core of bitcoin but still its considered as an alt since bitcoin is still working on its own and this was only an idea from the main dev and for sure we will see a lots of things tomorrow as the new coin already been introduce and how the people will adopt this new alt.


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: ReindeerOnMe on August 01, 2017, 03:49:51 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

BCC although a fork from Bitcoin, is more inline with Satoshi's original vision. It was Satoshi's original intention to scale by increasing Block Size. Satoshi had no intention of having something like segwit integrated into Bitcoin. Basically BCC = Bitcoin purist

BTC segwit although still mainstream, is being held hostage by a rogue CORE dev team, they are not inline with Satoshi's original vision, segwit is a danger to decentralization and Satoshi's vision of Bitcoin being a "P2P Electronic Cash system".

So you're saying that the bitcoin we usually or commonly know is a dummy coin that is twisted by some so they can earn a lot of money? I know that Roger Ver is making Satoshi's dream into reality but isn't it bad to make a development that is different from the creators mind.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: malikusama on August 01, 2017, 03:53:41 PM
BTC cash is simply an altcoin having almost same characteristics as bitcoin has but with some modifications in the features which old bitcoin doesn't have, that's why It is gaining this much public attention.


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: kokojie on August 01, 2017, 03:55:17 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

BCC although a fork from Bitcoin, is more inline with Satoshi's original vision. It was Satoshi's original intention to scale by increasing Block Size. Satoshi had no intention of having something like segwit integrated into Bitcoin. Basically BCC = Bitcoin purist

BTC segwit although still mainstream, is being held hostage by a rogue CORE dev team, they are not inline with Satoshi's original vision, segwit is a danger to decentralization and Satoshi's vision of Bitcoin being a "P2P Electronic Cash system".

So you're saying that the bitcoin we usually or commonly know is a dummy coin that is twisted by some so they can earn a lot of money? I know that Roger Ver is making Satoshi's dream into reality but isn't it bad to make a development that is different from the creators mind.

Roger Ver is very old school, he was here when Satoshi was here. Satoshi wouldn't liked segwit, and Roger Ver doesn't like segwit.

Segwit is good or bad, I don't know, time will tell. Centralization sometimes produce good results, just look at all the successful centralized exchanges, and the utter failures of trying to develop a decentralized exchange.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Palmerson on August 01, 2017, 03:59:48 PM
I don't quite understand what you're saying, but I have all the payments are fine. I understand that no fork happens. With regard to cash bitcoin it is a bad idea. This will necessarily lead to centralization and useless expenses on printing banknotes.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: orange32 on August 01, 2017, 04:00:10 PM
..., are both modifications of the original.  ;D so that means the original bitcoin is gone (?)  ???


Your not the first one to ponder over questions like that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus)


After lurking for a while I have found that you  get more political and ideological based answers than scientific ones (maybe not in in the more technical oriented subforums). So I suppose you could just make up your own mind on what is an "altcoin", if any, of those two. It is really not more than a label anyway.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: BeetcoinScummer on August 01, 2017, 04:08:22 PM
If bitcoin is gonna to get splitted there will be new coin which called bitcoin cash  alternative to current known btc. You can sell/buy/purchase stuff like you do them with bitcoins.

PuertoLibre, you sound different. You sold your account?  ;D ;D ;D

Of course BCC is an altcoin.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: MRlong on August 01, 2017, 04:17:04 PM
Yes Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, you can understand if a cryptocurrency created and not is Bitcoin, we will call it's altcoin when listed on exchange, call token when still crowdsale or mining first but not listed on any exchange on crypto world.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: posternat on August 01, 2017, 04:19:47 PM
I don't quite understand what you're saying, but I have all the payments are fine. I understand that no fork happens. With regard to cash bitcoin it is a bad idea. This will necessarily lead to centralization and useless expenses on printing banknotes.

Bitcoin Cash (BCC) was not in the process of BTC soft and hard fork.  BCC exists before August 1 and they are just projectig it as Bitcoin is hardfork into two chians, while it is not the case. We have implement BIP148 softfork making the block size to 2 MB. BCC (even with 8 MB blocksize) on the other hand has no support from the majority and it is just an altcoin for the future.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: Klausi on August 01, 2017, 04:20:14 PM
If bitcoin is gonna to get splitted there will be new coin which called bitcoin cash  alternative to current known btc. You can sell/buy/purchase stuff like you do them with bitcoins.

PuertoLibre, you sound different. You sold your account?  ;D ;D ;D

Of course BCC is an altcoin.
Well, if it split then it maybe difficult to adjust specially when using a wallet. What if the wallet your using since then get used to the normal transaction of btc before. So that only means they also have to upgrade in order to not to miss any part of splitting coins if ever that's for real but I hope not. I can see that many are worried about it even me but no matter what cases it prevail, I still support altcoins and bitcoins.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: taxmanmt5 on August 01, 2017, 04:23:57 PM
I don't quite understand what you're saying, but I have all the payments are fine. I understand that no fork happens. With regard to cash bitcoin it is a bad idea. This will necessarily lead to centralization and useless expenses on printing banknotes.

Bitcoin Cash (BCC) was not in the process of BTC soft and hard fork.  BCC exists before August 1 and they are just projectig it as Bitcoin is hardfork into two chians, while it is not the case. We have implement BIP148 softfork making the block size to 2 MB. BCC (even with 8 MB blocksize) on the other hand has no support from the majority and it is just an altcoin for the future.

It can be thought of as Eth Classic, however Eth classic was developed by the real hard fork of ETH and you can see its value way below the real ETH coin. Similarly, a BCC can never be as popular in volume and price  with Bitcoins. Can a clone be as worth as a real one  ;D
BCC is just a clone of BTC and it is basically developed by the few developers for their own benefit.


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: p3ppymon on August 01, 2017, 04:31:55 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

BCC although a fork from Bitcoin, is more inline with Satoshi's original vision. It was Satoshi's original intention to scale by increasing Block Size. Satoshi had no intention of having something like segwit integrated into Bitcoin. Basically BCC = Bitcoin purist

BTC segwit although still mainstream, is being held hostage by a rogue CORE dev team, they are not inline with Satoshi's original vision, segwit is a danger to decentralization and Satoshi's vision of Bitcoin being a "P2P Electronic Cash system".

This explains it in a good way.
In terms of price, and according to what you are saying, would the price of BCC>BTC?


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: care2yak on August 01, 2017, 04:43:23 PM
..., are both modifications of the original.  ;D so that means the original bitcoin is gone (?)  ???


Your not the first one to ponder over questions like that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus)


After lurking for a while I have found that you  get more political and ideological based answers than scientific ones (maybe not in in the more technical oriented subforums). So I suppose you could just make up your own mind on what is an "altcoin", if any, of those two. It is really not more than a label anyway.

I'm with BrewMaster's interpretation re: which of the two will be labeled alt. Majority versus the minority thing. Still, with the old "tweaked" resulting in these two chains to watch, which chain will be more successful? Perhaps it's still too early to tell since regular transactions have not yet fully resumed. And the timetable did say more action coming up on November. Maybe we'll be seeing more action in the coming days

Edit:

meant to say -- more action coming up til November...


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: Iranus on August 01, 2017, 04:45:15 PM
BCC has little support (minority) => altcoin
SegWit has the majority support => bitcoin
Notably though, SegWit required majority support to activate through BIP 141 and thus it would automatically be Bitcoin when activated (and there would be no chain split when created).  If it was activated through BIP 148 with a minority of hashrate, its support would have been more subjective and thus it could have been called an altcoin.

SegWit itself is just a proposal.  It could or could not be called an altcoin depending on its status at the time.

However, I don't think that we have to treat it as black-and-white, nor that we should be using the word "altcoin" as an insult.



Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: manselr on August 01, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, but im not sure if mods should move Bitcoin Cash threads to the altcoin section, even if it's an altcoin.

There are tons of newbies right now getting confused, and they ask about this in here because they don't know it's an altcoin, so we should help them. Make visible the fact that Bitcoin Cash is a scam and if you go into hardforking adventures you are going to lose your real money (BTC), so maybe should keep all of the BCC threads in here for a while.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: TheFriends on August 01, 2017, 04:53:48 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

Yes, it's a altcoin, it doesn't arise from consensus.


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: kokojie on August 01, 2017, 05:05:47 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

BCC although a fork from Bitcoin, is more inline with Satoshi's original vision. It was Satoshi's original intention to scale by increasing Block Size. Satoshi had no intention of having something like segwit integrated into Bitcoin. Basically BCC = Bitcoin purist

BTC segwit although still mainstream, is being held hostage by a rogue CORE dev team, they are not inline with Satoshi's original vision, segwit is a danger to decentralization and Satoshi's vision of Bitcoin being a "P2P Electronic Cash system".

This explains it in a good way.
In terms of price, and according to what you are saying, would the price of BCC>BTC?

I can see BCC having value, significant value, because there's a strong and financially secure community of old school Bitcoin purists, such as Roger Ver. But I don't really see it surpassing the value of "mainstream BTC" in the short term future. Long term who knows, only time will tell.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: maeusi on August 01, 2017, 08:01:16 PM
Yes, Bitcoin Cash (BCH) is an altcoin. Alternate to Bitcoin (BTC), if not bitcoin is the altcoin now :). But doesn't look so.


Title: Re: Are BCC and BTC SEGWIT an altcoin?
Post by: pisston on August 01, 2017, 08:55:30 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

BCC although a fork from Bitcoin, is more inline with Satoshi's original vision. It was Satoshi's original intention to scale by increasing Block Size. Satoshi had no intention of having something like segwit integrated into Bitcoin. Basically BCC = Bitcoin purist

BTC segwit although still mainstream, is being held hostage by a rogue CORE dev team, they are not inline with Satoshi's original vision, segwit is a danger to decentralization and Satoshi's vision of Bitcoin being a "P2P Electronic Cash system".

This explains it in a good way.
In terms of price, and according to what you are saying, would the price of BCC>BTC?

I can see BCC having value, significant value, because there's a strong and financially secure community of old school Bitcoin purists, such as Roger Ver. But I don't really see it surpassing the value of "mainstream BTC" in the short term future. Long term who knows, only time will tell.
But Why it will all depend? This situation can be affected by users who will not make decisions What exactly they use the most and where to invest. Vegetation these two currencies have an equivalent relationship but I want to make the right choice.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: xbiv2 on August 01, 2017, 09:00:33 PM

BTC not born yet https://www.btcforkmonitor.info/


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: gishab56 on August 01, 2017, 09:02:28 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

Yes, it's a altcoin, it doesn't arise from consensus.

Quite wrong. if BTC Segwit lost consensuses it becomes altcoin immediately?


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: jakelyson on August 01, 2017, 09:20:11 PM
When it was just segwit that is being proposed, some people are claiming that it will make bitcoin an altcoin. Now that bcc have split it, it is also being claimed as an altcoin. I think both of them would make bitcoin an altcoin because it deviates from the original but a needed change for bitcoin to move forward. Whichever gets the most support would make it the main and the other the alt.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 01, 2017, 10:21:14 PM
When it was just segwit that is being proposed, some people are claiming that it will make bitcoin an altcoin. Now that bcc have split it, it is also being claimed as an altcoin. I think both of them would make bitcoin an altcoin because it deviates from the original but a needed change for bitcoin to move forward. Whichever gets the most support would make it the main and the other the alt.

We all know the altcoin, the BCH or the Bitcoin Cash is the altcoin, it was forked out of BTC so obviously it is the answer. But I know your point and I think people will still be uaing the common BTC.

BCH as said by them, is like a purifier because the supporter or the one that push this is Roger Ver who wants to follow the dream of Satoshi Nakamoto the creator of Bitcoin. With the current SegWit thing, it is like the bitcoin is not the original ne but, it will be still used commonly by the people.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Khailer on August 01, 2017, 10:28:14 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
It's considered as an altcoin. No one wants to adopt bitcoin cash maybe because it was new in cryptocurrency. In this case, bitcoin cash is an altcoin. I perceived it will be altcoin forever. Bitcoin is the best!


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: andie kisno on August 01, 2017, 11:49:16 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
It's considered as an altcoin. No one wants to adopt bitcoin cash maybe because it was new in cryptocurrency. In this case, bitcoin cash is an altcoin. I perceived it will be altcoin forever. Bitcoin is the best!


It seems to be true that BCC is altcoin, because I know that the events of BIP148 I did not happen and all went as usual, but still we wait until the date of August 10 will be clear everything


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Baofeng on August 01, 2017, 11:55:52 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
It's considered as an altcoin. No one wants to adopt bitcoin cash maybe because it was new in cryptocurrency. In this case, bitcoin cash is an altcoin. I perceived it will be altcoin forever. Bitcoin is the best!

It is not bitcoin there technically you can call it an altcoin. And most altcoins hope to either replace or improve upon at least one Bitcoin component. Maybe just a few will adopt BCH but it will not be the main crypto for one thing. And it can very well used by some groups for their pump and dump activity like what we are seeing to a lot of altcoins right now in the market.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Viscount on August 02, 2017, 01:51:59 AM
It's an useless shitcoin. It's even worse than other alts


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Sithara007 on August 02, 2017, 01:55:03 AM
It's an useless shitcoin. It's even worse than other alts

Just because you don't like it, you can't say that it is worthless. I also don't like these alts such as BCH, but at the same time, when someone is offering us free money, why should we forfeit them? To BCH's credit, the currency is already worth some $6 billion now, just a few hours after it was created.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: leirou on August 02, 2017, 01:58:20 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

Yes BCC or Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, I believe it is. Because it is just a split coin from the main BTC (BITCOIN) which means it is just and alternative coin too.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Fourgh on August 02, 2017, 02:03:17 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

Yes, its an alternative coin for Bitcoin having it's platform and system altered from the original Bitcoin. Dont know why they really had to split the Bitcoin cryptocurrency just to address the transaction speed of the current blockchain. Who know's what this split will do to the Old and New faces of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: rkp13 on August 02, 2017, 02:03:37 AM
Yes, It is AltCoin . Bitcoin Cash or BCH is bitcoin fork like many others (Litecoin, Dogecoin etc) but with only few modifications (improvements). Cryptocurrency is all about community support. Lets see how much support it gets from Bitcoin community. Though they have around 6 Billion market cap out of the gate its hard to predict its future.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: iamTom123 on August 02, 2017, 02:30:58 AM
Yes, Bitcoin Cash (BCH) is considered by many as an alternative coin...at least for now as we don't know what can happen next. Anyway, since it is not replacing the real Bitcoin so there is no question that its category belongs to being an altcoin...in the same way we consider Ethereum, Litecoin, Dash, Monero, etc on the same group.

As of now, it has a good value actually maybe because this is the split coin coming from the real Bitcoin and so it has maybe its own intrinsic value. As to how this altcoin will perform in the trading days ahead, that is something really worth watching. I now have my own BCH equivalent to the BTC am holding in Bittrex...am happy with that since it is like receiving some free coins just doing nothing. Maybe a fork is not really that bad after all.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: panju1 on August 02, 2017, 02:34:55 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

It will be considered as an altcoin. Scientific proof - Just wait for posts in this forum. Very soon, the moderators will start moving these posts to the Altcoin section.  :)


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 02, 2017, 02:38:44 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

Yes it is an alt coin, Bitcoin cash is different from the "real" bitcoin. Have you noticed the Bitcoin Unlimited? They are the same with the event happened with the split / fork just like with ETH. It was split into two coins, ETC(ETH classic) and ETH(real ETH). We don't have to explain it in a scientific way, BCH is alt coin.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: pdpanzer on August 02, 2017, 02:45:25 AM
Yes because it is a divergence from the current bitcoin so would mean it is an alternative version of bitcoin so altcoin it is, regardless if more people support it and it becomes the leader it is still an altcoin, in my eyes anyway.

this has somewhat fazed me as well... the original bitcoin didn't have segwit and didn't have larger blocks, so, the bitcoin running now, which has segwit, and the forked one - bitcoin cash, whose blocksize was increased, are both modifications of the original.  ;D so that means the original bitcoin is gone (?)  ???

It really doesn't matter. Whatever name, they are what they are. It's like discussing if Devian Linux or Slackware Linux is true GNU-linux. Sure, 100 times more devian users, but both are linux. And then there are distros that go against so many of linux principles, that most regard them as not being linux. The difference here is that Bitcoin = money (currency or asset). So instead of "whatever suits you best", there's an interest in protecting the "market share".

Nobody, not this "Core" group can claim to be more Bitcoin that the original Bitcoin. And as you say, what we have today are siblings and variants. Most variants will be worth $0. But if some variant holds value, it likely serves a purpose, just like a distribution does. And that's all that matters.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: care2yak on August 02, 2017, 03:09:41 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

ETC(ETH classic) and ETH(real ETH)

Don't mean to offend but I don't quite agree with that -- dubbing real eth and the other unreal? Etc maintained the original chain while Eth was the edited chain but was supported by the majority - hence carried the original ETH ticker and name.

As with bitcoin (BTC), the majority supported segwit activation to upgrade bitcoin and so, the name and ticker of bitcoin is applied to the chain that the majority supports. For me, BTC and BCH are both real - coming from the same chain. The other has been labeled an alt because it's the minority chain. Question is, would it thrive? It's trading at BitTrex and the price is moving up fast. Earlier it was at $400 now up $524.51 https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/bch/markets/USD


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 02, 2017, 04:09:40 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

ETC(ETH classic) and ETH(real ETH)

Don't mean to offend but I don't quite agree with that -- dubbing real eth and the other unreal? Etc maintained the original chain while Eth was the edited chain but was supported by the majority - hence carried the original ETH ticker and name.

As with bitcoin (BTC), the majority supported segwit activation to upgrade bitcoin and so, the name and ticker of bitcoin is applied to the chain that the majority supports. For me, BTC and BCH are both real - coming from the same chain. The other has been labeled an alt because it's the minority chain. Question is, would it thrive? It's trading at BitTrex and the price is moving up fast. Earlier it was at $400 now up $524.51 https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/bch/markets/USD

Sorry about that if I was able to give a wrong definition. I'll change it to original instead of real ETH. I was about to describe the "real" ones as the original coin that we used to see and transact before this fork. I'm still not selling my BCH and I'm not yet claiming it coming from my desktop wallet but it's pretty to see the price is increasing.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: pdpanzer on August 02, 2017, 04:32:34 AM
Yes Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, you can understand if a cryptocurrency created and not is Bitcoin, we will call it's altcoin when listed on exchange, call token when still crowdsale or mining first but not listed on any exchange on crypto world.

Altcoins is a derogatory term. Bitcoin Cash has 0.1% to do with things like EOS or IOTA or AntShares, and 99.9% to do with what Satoshi named Bitcoin. Also, it inherits the same "history", bit by bit, and any coin in this new coin belongs to a person that also owned a bitcoin. Unlike Ethereum, where the dev reserved over 16,000,000 coins for themselves, the developers here reserved 0 for them. Anything out there belongs to the same people that owned bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: romero121 on August 02, 2017, 04:40:10 AM
This too gets listed to the altcoin, but this gets the added value than the litecoin and other few coins that has the base aas bitcoin. Here the majority of the process happens along with the bitcoin and only the functioning takes place in a different chain. Now itself several exchanges have listed trading pairs with several altcoins as well bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: TomUyamot on August 02, 2017, 05:04:28 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

Yes, I think BTH is an altcoin. It belongs to such a category. Anything other than BTC is an altcoin basically. And since it is just a copycat of BTC then it is safe to generalize that BCH is also an alternate cryptocurrency. It is as simple as that.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: HasHe on August 02, 2017, 05:05:43 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
Yes,BCC is just an other altcoin and it is in no way a substitute to bitcoin.It was just created by chinese miners who were not happy with segwit implementation.With most exchanges being announced that they would not support BCC.It would just remain for few days till it is pumped by its chinese supporters.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: NJB18 on August 02, 2017, 05:14:09 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
Yes,BCC is just an other altcoin and it is in no way a substitute to bitcoin.It was just created by chinese miners who were not happy with segwit implementation.With most exchanges being announced that they would not support BCC.It would just remain for few days till it is pumped by its chinese supporters.

Even if BCC is claiming to be the substitute for BTC, it is still an altcoin. A substitute means it is not the original one. BTC is the original and if BCC is to replace BTC then it is not the true one but an alternate. Another point, BTC is still alive and is gaining much more value as we speak, it means to say the substitute does not have any real place.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: GoodOne on August 02, 2017, 05:34:56 AM
yes, it is alt coin... and even more - during today or tomorrow I suppose it will be most dumped alt coin  ;)


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: ulhaq on August 02, 2017, 06:05:40 AM
Practically everyone here is saying that BCC is an altcoin because it is in the minority. So if BCC surpasses BTC, does that mean that BTC becomes the altcoin?


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Jombitt on August 02, 2017, 06:10:33 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

bitcoin cash i think is an upgraded version of old btc because of some improved modification. For me any other coins aside from bitcoin is called alt coins. So if bitcoin cash value will pass the bitcoin it will only be a clone or copy version.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: kodtycoon on August 02, 2017, 06:15:52 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

Bitcoin cash is altcoin, after not getting good support finally bitcoin cash can show its good progress and maybe bitcoin cash will have good potential in the future. Who knows have a high demand in the market.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Netnox on August 02, 2017, 06:38:00 AM
Practically everyone here is saying that BCC is an altcoin because it is in the minority. So if BCC surpasses BTC, does that mean that BTC becomes the altcoin?

Lol... if that happens (and I think that there is a small chance), then the original Bitcoin will be known as "Bitcoin Classic" or "Bitcoin Core" and the Bitcoin Cash will be regarded as the "Bitcoin proper". But things are not clear yet. In less than a year's time, it will be clear about who is going to win this race.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: JackSteveson on August 02, 2017, 06:40:12 AM
It's the fact that there is no relationship with bitcoin, it was not created by splitting from bitcoin on August 1st, 2017. It remained before that time. Some people tried to make it as to be splitted from bitcoin to get benefit when they promoting and make it raised the price then they sold them out. Bitcoin cash is an altcoin and have no relationship with bitcoin. Please look at the reality and don't be fantastic any more! The Segwit is to improve blockchain in the speed of money transfer not relevant to bitcoin cash. If someone said it was splitted from bitcoin why our bitcoin did not loose its volume. I have some bitcoin and after August 1st, I still have them without changing volume (reduce volume). Bitcoin cash is cheap coin and will fall the price down quickly when people know the truth about its origin.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Coins and Hardwork on August 02, 2017, 07:05:58 AM
Practically everyone here is saying that BCC is an altcoin because it is in the minority. So if BCC surpasses BTC, does that mean that BTC becomes the altcoin?

Lol... if that happens (and I think that there is a small chance), then the original Bitcoin will be known as "Bitcoin Classic" or "Bitcoin Core" and the Bitcoin Cash will be regarded as the "Bitcoin proper". But things are not clear yet. In less than a year's time, it will be clear about who is going to win this race.

I think there is no way that bitcoin cash can surpass the Bitcoin SegWit. First, people just look at this new altcoin as a free money or profit. But I don't think it will be reaching less than a year, because we will be walking in the month of November which will decide another decision.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Variogam on August 02, 2017, 07:15:34 AM
I think there is no way that bitcoin cash can surpass the Bitcoin SegWit. First, people just look at this new altcoin as a free money or profit.

Dont be so quick. Bitcoin has achilles heel, potential for very high transaction fees. Its going to be interesting what happens when Bitcoin very high transaction fees returns, and how big Bitcoin Cash transaction fees become in comparsion.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: erickkyut on August 02, 2017, 07:17:29 AM
For me Bitcoin Cash is just an altcoin created effortlessly by those greedy whales. They just want to double their money and earn more for free by creating Bitcoin Cash. I don't think it can surpass Bitcoin in any area. Bitcoin is still the original and the best.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Mett33 on August 02, 2017, 07:19:28 AM
Hello to all.

I have one question about Bitcoin cash and this fork which in my logic I really can't understand.

Before for BTC got about 44.000.000.000 $ market capital, then become fork-split and about 15% of owners get Bitcoin cash for free, ok. Now how is possible that that Bitcoin cash have 7.000.000.000 $ market capital and BTC didn't lose anything. People receive free coin, but who give that 7.000.000.000$? is that imaginary with pomped value (no real value)?

Or people receive Bitcoin cash with value 0$ and one some put into that 7.000.000.000$ and make value of 350$ for one coin.

Please explain me.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: Pinkris128 on August 02, 2017, 07:23:43 AM
Yes because it is a divergence from the current bitcoin so would mean it is an alternative version of bitcoin so altcoin it is, regardless if more people support it and it becomes the leader it is still an altcoin, in my eyes anyway.
Yes it is just an altcoin because it just alternative coin for the bitcoin. I think they just made it to double their money. still this coin cant never surpass bitcoin. It will still remain as an altcoin no matter what happen.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: wildflower18 on August 02, 2017, 07:33:19 AM
For me Bitcoin Cash is just an altcoin created effortlessly by those greedy whales. They just want to double their money and earn more for free by creating Bitcoin Cash. I don't think it can surpass Bitcoin in any area. Bitcoin is still the original and the best.
This is what I believe and observed  about btc cash it just an altcoin. They create to attract more traders on this btc cash . Yes, I think it will not surpass bitcoin and still bitcoin will be the best amongst all cyrptocurrency.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: followmenot on August 02, 2017, 07:36:58 AM
I believe it is just alternative coin and it will stay as alt in future. We can pay BTC for Steam services and games, not BTC Cash. I think it will never have bitcoin's marketcap in future. But it will be one of the safest altcoins ever created.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: wizardee on August 02, 2017, 07:42:42 AM
Yes, as bitcoin cash can be considered as an altcoin as it is a subset of bitcoin. Most likely it was just created as an investment opportunity to create fast money, but that can't really be said.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: oegarod on August 02, 2017, 07:48:13 AM
It is termed as an altcoin though it got evolved from the bitcoin on a splitting. It has got its own value and the price move has got initiated without making any negative impact over the bitcoin. May be in future this will grow same as our bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: cafucafucafu on August 02, 2017, 07:48:22 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

Yes, Bitcoin cash is an alt coin even though it has the name "Bitcoin" in it, it is still an alternative to bitcoin. I don't think that Bitcoin cash has much of the potential as Bitcoin and I don't think that Bitcoin cash will ever overtake Bitcoin.

I don't think that Bitcoin cash will ever overtake Bitcoin especially with the huge amounts of attention Bitcoin has been receiving soon.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Aamir1 on August 02, 2017, 07:54:20 AM
Yes, it is an altcoin coming out from bitcoin, having a slightly different nature from bitcoin but likely to be another version of it i guess.
Read more about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059111.0


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: LuanX3 on August 02, 2017, 08:00:30 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

Yes, Bitcoin cash is an alt coin even though it has the name "Bitcoin" in it, it is still an alternative to bitcoin. I don't think that Bitcoin cash has much of the potential as Bitcoin and I don't think that Bitcoin cash will ever overtake Bitcoin.

I don't think that Bitcoin cash will ever overtake Bitcoin especially with the huge amounts of attention Bitcoin has been receiving soon.

Yeah I agree, bitcoin cash is just indeed only an altcoin and it could never overtake bitcoins.
The very fact that majority of the exchanges and other services accepting bitcoins,
has denounced bitcoin cash will mean that it will likely just fall down and be forgotten.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: junan1 on August 02, 2017, 08:10:04 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?

Trying to be logical...

Altcoin has always meant "cryptocurrency other than Bitcoin".

This has worked well in the past, but today we have two distinct coins that both have a very good claim to the name "Bitcoin".  I submit that "Bitcoin" as it is used in the above definition no longer refers to a unique coin.  I submit that neither BCH nor BTC are altcoins.

Now, going forward, we may well refer to the BTC branch as "Bitcoin" and the BCH branch as "Bitcoin Cash", but I claim that in doing so we're subtly shifting the definition of "Bitcoin" and that this natural evolution of language does not invalidate the above logic.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: ekoice on August 02, 2017, 08:23:25 AM
Yes,it would remain just an altcoin.BCC developers tried to develop it as a substitute for bitcoin but due to lack of support,it have to just remain as an altcoin.Even most of those who get BCC equal to BTC are also ready to just dump their BCC as soon as possible and buy BTC with it.So BCC would remain alive for only few days.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: kryptqnick on August 02, 2017, 08:25:27 AM
Why we need this BCC if we have normal old bitcoin ???

Because the people behind this "alternative coin" think that bitcoin is not really the digital currency they've looked up in the past and they want it to make a turn. If you can read the other posts, it has the same features as bitcoin but with a few modifications. So I think you can say an altcoin with their dream feature to bitcoin.
Moreover, they even maintain that the 'good old' one is actually bcc, for it is closer to classic bitcoin, no segregation here, just a block which is a lot bigger.
I don't think bcc can win over btc and the fact that no natural hard fork took place is actually for it but it is doing extremely impressive now. 50% up on coinmarketcap, already number three in capitalization whereas other coins usually pave their way to the top quite slowly.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: jerowacik on August 02, 2017, 08:30:11 AM
Yes BCH is not bitcoin. BCH is altcoin, because coin other than bitcoin then we call it altcoin.
But the current BCH price is quite high, those who hold bitcoin will certainly feel happy.


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: shield132 on August 02, 2017, 09:34:07 AM
Why we need this BCC if we have normal old bitcoin ???
You think so and that's all. For some people this "normal old bitcoin" isn't good and they think it has to be changed. For example bitcoin has high transaction fees low block size, so on bitcoin cash it will be 8 mb which is pretty good for some people. We don't need BCC, some people needs it, so you can simply don't use it and ignore.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Kemarit on August 02, 2017, 12:56:41 PM
Practically everyone here is saying that BCC is an altcoin because it is in the minority. So if BCC surpasses BTC, does that mean that BTC becomes the altcoin?

In the first place, BCC won't surpasses in terms of usage and trading volumes. It was BCC who created the hard fork, they decide to mine on the new ruleset, and some continue on the old ruleset. No block produced under the new rules is valid under the old rules, and vice versa. In this case, the chains are eternally split with no chance of ever converging, no matter how much work is mined into each chain. So in essence, BCH is just an altcoin by diverging from the original BTC.

Yes,it would remain just an altcoin.BCC developers tried to develop it as a substitute for bitcoin but due to lack of support,it have to just remain as an altcoin.Even most of those who get BCC equal to BTC are also ready to just dump their BCC as soon as possible and buy BTC with it.So BCC would remain alive for only few days.

They still think that by increasing the blocksize they would get more support. But on the contrary, people have stay away from it and remain loyal to bitcoin. Looks like it is the case, people just get free BCC then dumped it quickly. But it will remain alive as long as there are people still believing and supporting it, although the price would be really low like $100 or less.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Cootie on August 02, 2017, 01:23:25 PM
On my opinion, i think the right term for that is alternative cryptocurrency. If you take a look at the name , it suggests that this type is a cash, not a coin, but the concept's still the same, it is also an alternative cryptocurrency or altcoin, any of these.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Bitforking on August 02, 2017, 08:57:21 PM
what is the defination of Bitcoin and altcoin? bitcoin with segwit=Litecoin, isn't it?


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: okbit on August 02, 2017, 10:36:56 PM
It is an altcoin for now. Who knows though, it may catch bitcoin. Would that make it the original??


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Pattberry on August 02, 2017, 10:57:19 PM
Yes BCH is not bitcoin. BCH is altcoin, because coin other than bitcoin then we call it altcoin.
But the current BCH price is quite high, those who hold bitcoin will certainly feel happy.
Sure everyone will feel happy to get some free coins that values over $300,i did not expected the value to shoot like this,but i was disappointed that i could not move my gift coins to some of the exchanges just to make use of the volatile market,bitcoin cash is an alt coin with the same ideology of Satoshi,at least that is what they are claiming. :)


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: speaktome on August 03, 2017, 12:02:25 AM
On my opinion, i think the right term for that is alternative cryptocurrency. If you take a look at the name , it suggests that this type is a cash, not a coin, but the concept's still the same, it is also an alternative cryptocurrency or altcoin, any of these.
That depends on the approach that is given,there will be those who say yes and those who suggest that itsnīt,I would not properly name it altcoin since in many points it is similar to BTC and arises as a proposal for improvement,regardless of whether or not this is achieved,in general itīs an abstract approach but those who did this continued with the name in itself,surely it will be much discussed about whether it's a altcoin or not,may even be required some other name instead of bitcoin,altcoin such as bitcoin-enhanced or anything else.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: jmigdlc99 on August 03, 2017, 12:26:22 AM
Yes, because it is not bitcoin. It is an alternative to the original bitcoin version. Alternative = Alt. Altcoin = Alternative Coin.

Simple logic bro.. Its not hard..


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: jwkman on August 03, 2017, 01:21:59 AM
It's an altcoin unless it ever overtakes Bitcoin in market cap to be the #1 coin.. which is unlikely


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Gintama214 on August 03, 2017, 01:44:51 AM
I think so , Yes. BTC cash is an altcoin because its an separate coin but kinda the same as Bitcoin. It may sounds the same but it has different and more features than bitcoin but BTC cash is an altcoin, it acts like a a new altcoin it has its own market cap and like other altcoins do. This is the reason why other people are worried about the split because they do think that BTC cash is Bitcoin and that's not true, you should think of BTC cash as an altcoin, so that you won't get confused both coins.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: panju1 on August 03, 2017, 01:49:26 AM
It's an altcoin unless it ever overtakes Bitcoin in market cap to be the #1 coin.. which is unlikely

People might not accept that, even if it does ever happen. All you can say that BCH is commercially successful, nothing more.
Ethereum is within touching distance of Bitcoin's market cap. That doesn't make ETH the new bitcoin, does it?


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: tonlong on August 03, 2017, 04:20:53 AM
It's an altcoin unless it ever overtakes Bitcoin in market cap to be the #1 coin.. which is unlikely

People might not accept that, even if it does ever happen. All you can say that BCH is commercially successful, nothing more.
Ethereum is within touching distance of Bitcoin's market cap. That doesn't make ETH the new bitcoin, does it?
Simple answer, don't. In some senses I'd think the BCC would be considered a gift. If you do not hold any BTC at the time of split you cannot claim BCC.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: ryanben on August 03, 2017, 04:47:12 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
Its essence is an altcoin like the one between ETH / ETC, some argue that BCC is the real BTC but they forget that one is king and one is just substitute.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: nakata90 on August 03, 2017, 05:19:37 AM
I have some question about the define when we call Bitcoin Cash is altcoin or Bitcoin

Example: If in near future Bitcoin Cash can pass Bitcoin and become to Top 1 on coinmarketcap, in this time can we call Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin and Bitcoin (old) is altcoin?


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Grrizz on August 03, 2017, 05:24:19 AM
I have some question about the define when we call Bitcoin Cash is altcoin or Bitcoin

Example: If in near future Bitcoin Cash can pass Bitcoin and become to Top 1 on coinmarketcap, in this time can we call Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin and Bitcoin (old) is altcoin?

In that case it'd just be an alt coin with a higher market cap, it's not bitcoin and never will be.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: frowsiter on August 03, 2017, 06:10:10 AM
Yes it perfect altcoin and no one can change the fact really.

You can read theymos thread in the bitcoin discussion to understand why it is altcoin and how to acquire it if you really into it. As a definition altcoin stands for alternate coins in which bcc fits perfectly. So yeah you can call it that way. Originality of bitcoin is still preserved and to the date there is no one like it.



Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: anylic on August 03, 2017, 06:53:40 AM
Recently, around the news are talking about this issue, many people think BCC is BTC but in fact it is not true, because BCC and BTC have been inconsistent and resulting in splitting. So in my opinion BCC is an altcoin and it is completely independent


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: KesoNie on August 03, 2017, 08:00:16 AM
I will go for a yes because the meaning of altcoin for me is a coin which is created after bitcoin because we all know that the bitcoin is the very first cryptocurrency in the internet and those who follows bitcoin are called altcoin.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: inthelongrun on August 03, 2017, 08:09:17 AM
I will go for a yes because the meaning of altcoin for me is a coin which is created after bitcoin because we all know that the bitcoin is the very first cryptocurrency in the internet and those who follows bitcoin are called altcoin.

Yes. Anything that followed the footsteps of bitcoin is an altcoin automatically. They are considered alternate cryptocurrency. Although it is a copy of bitcoin, it is still not bitcoin. The conclusion is therefore it is an altcoin, just like the rest.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: Bitcoin_trader2016 on August 03, 2017, 08:20:31 AM
I think all the coins that on the market now is called altcoins and the only one and only bitcoin they called it altcoins because all of this coins base in satoshi's bitcoin no other creation of coins when bitcoin still not yet born its like bitcoin is the father of all crypto and all altcoins is only he's siblings and childrens. All of them is base on bitcoins idea.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: In the silence on August 03, 2017, 08:26:52 AM
Of course its an altcoin. The features are different but the same bitcoin we addicted of. Pure copy of bitcoin that probably will never succeed.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: AbsoluteT on August 03, 2017, 10:43:42 AM
It is a altcoin until segwit has some big fuck up and everyone jumps ship to the bitcoin.

more like a back up plan then a full blown altcoin like ethereum


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: vasrasus on August 03, 2017, 10:47:14 AM
It is a altcoin until segwit has some big fuck up and everyone jumps ship to the bitcoin.

more like a back up plan then a full blown altcoin like ethereum
All alts were seems to be a backup of Bitcoin, since we know BTC can stand still after any issues that's why still prefer it yet we still need alts for some other transactions and BCC will only be like it can be used maybe when BTC can't or too high in fees.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: coynedterm on August 03, 2017, 11:42:35 AM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
I think you can't get the exact answer anywhere because the main reason is the definition which is saying the coins except from the bitcoin are known as altcoin .
Here the official announcement said that the network of the bcc coin is totally independent from bitcoin network , so here we can say it is altcoin .
But still here we are getting this coin from the bitcoin network ( phrase backup , private key etc ) so here directly from the btc , so here in this case we can't say it altcoin .
But here my opinion direct telling that bcc is altcoin only .
Well it is altcoin or not doesn't a matter for us because the future will tell us that with which coin we will go and why and will make the king that coin and other of them will become altcoin .


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: -security- on August 03, 2017, 12:03:21 PM
Depending on viewpoint


Title: Re: Is BCC an altcoin?
Post by: Kiweikoo on August 04, 2017, 08:24:36 AM
Why we need this BCC if we have normal old bitcoin ???

Because the people behind this "alternative coin" think that bitcoin is not really the digital currency they've looked up in the past and they want it to make a turn. If you can read the other posts, it has the same features as bitcoin but with a few modifications. So I think you can say an altcoin with their dream feature to bitcoin.
Moreover, they even maintain that the 'good old' one is actually bcc, for it is closer to classic bitcoin, no segregation here, just a block which is a lot bigger.
I don't think bcc can win over btc and the fact that no natural hard fork took place is actually for it but it is doing extremely impressive now. 50% up on coinmarketcap, already number three in capitalization whereas other coins usually pave their way to the top quite slowly.
I think the same. The bitcoin cash can never ever surpass the original bitcoin.
It will attract people in the beginning as it is doing right now but this spell is going to be over soon. Besides I don’t believe that bitcoin cash is any type of altcoin. Bitcoin cash is just wastage of time.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: CookieGums on August 04, 2017, 03:06:48 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
Is there a scientific explanation in defining if the btc cash is an altcoin? Because i think, for me that any coin that is not a bitcoin is an altcoin, from the word itself tells alternative its an altcoin.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: sujonali1819 on August 04, 2017, 03:12:32 PM
Someone say yes someone say no. Explain me in scientific way. yes or no?
Definately it is an Alt coin like. It is the new version of btc.Just louched this coin it has need more devolopment. After all the coin will be the next btc i think.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: sarul on August 04, 2017, 03:58:23 PM
BCC is great coin, not using wallet builder or clones of other coins. BCC has own chain. The movement also so fast to become a famous coin.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: DetectorToken on August 04, 2017, 04:11:22 PM
Yeah it's clearly an altcoin.


Title: Re: Is BTC cash an altcoin?
Post by: FrankNoland on August 04, 2017, 04:51:16 PM
I consider Bitcoin Cash as an altcoin since I was once read that any other crypto coin exept bitcoin is regarded to be an altcoin. Some might agree while some might disagree.