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Title: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: kc. on August 09, 2017, 02:42:13 AM
SiaCoin has not had much movement or attention after the massive bear run. Where do you guys think it will be in the near future?


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 09, 2017, 08:19:47 AM
SiaCoin has not had much movement or attention after the massive bear run. Where do you guys think it will be in the near future?
There's probably going to be a whole lotta fear and loathing when it starts


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: ruffles2016 on August 09, 2017, 09:23:20 AM
It will be better than most of storage services, it will be used for storage in crypto community and gonna be mainstream by news. But nothing special I believe.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: kriptom on August 09, 2017, 09:26:49 AM
sia there are strong competitors. Just like Storj . But the hard-working team .  Bright with a promising future .


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: bakerdrums on August 09, 2017, 11:22:42 AM
I'd say this is a good bit of attention:  http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2017/08/07/sia/sUZ0p3EEAsgVuL2aGCeqEJ/story.html


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: silverston on August 09, 2017, 11:42:28 AM
This is a good coin, but it was better to take it earlier, but not now, now it will be hard for him to grow strong


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: aceptamosbitcoin on August 09, 2017, 11:52:53 AM
I'd say this is a good bit of attention:  http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2017/08/07/sia/sUZ0p3EEAsgVuL2aGCeqEJ/story.html

Yep, the coin have a future. Storage demand is higher than ever.
And could even raise again to $0.5B CAP. At least developers are known and are working together.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: seriousbusiness on August 09, 2017, 11:59:31 AM
Well there wont be a big raise if u read the article. They will try to stop it.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: nasqar on August 09, 2017, 12:54:45 PM
Overall concepts are cool.
Devs know what to do.

The problem: it has (big) competitor
To be honest: I dont know who ll be the winner.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: negancoin on August 09, 2017, 12:59:05 PM
for now, just forget about Sia
it will not go up.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: silverston on August 09, 2017, 01:31:42 PM

The problem: it has (big) competitor


Who it ???


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: lukey on August 09, 2017, 01:44:45 PM
Siacoin is a real product. Others like "Filecoin" is just a whitepaper ??? "Storj" is way more expensive then Sia.

The development team is working hard on their product

Patience is key

HODL


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: CryptPete on August 09, 2017, 01:47:03 PM
I think SIA will have a very good Future.
Look at this: Create Your Own Low-Cost Cloud Storage App with Sia and Nextcloud
https://mtlynch.io/sia-nextcloud/
And this:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2017/08/07/sia/sUZ0p3EEAsgVuL2aGCeqEJ/story.html?event=event25
Cheers


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: lukey on August 09, 2017, 01:47:20 PM

The problem: it has (big) competitor


Who it ???


Amazon, Google, Microsoft...


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 09, 2017, 02:37:59 PM
Siacoin is a real product. Others like "Filecoin" is just a whitepaper ??? "Storj" is way more expensive then Sia.

The development team is working hard on their product

Patience is key

HODL
Sia hasn't done anything to justify the patience and hope placed in hodling it for close to 4 months now. Storj may be more expensive, but it sure does spurt more on the charts


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: supertee on August 09, 2017, 02:42:31 PM
I think Sia has a bright future. But I also sold my coins yesterday, as I am not really sure whether price will drop to 250 or lower, because of the article published, that they don't care about coin price - they care for the product. So all the traders will move out short term and come back at a later stage.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: OrangeP on August 09, 2017, 02:50:13 PM
I think Sia has a bright future. But I also sold my coins yesterday, as I am not really sure whether price will drop to 250 or lower, because of the article published, that they don't care about coin price - they care for the product. So all the traders will move out short term and come back at a later stage.

But their product fucking sucks. Try it. You'll know what I mean.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: lukey on August 09, 2017, 02:58:17 PM
Siacoin is a real product. Others like "Filecoin" is just a whitepaper ??? "Storj" is way more expensive then Sia.

The development team is working hard on their product

Patience is key

HODL
Sia hasn't done anything to justify the patience and hope placed in hodling it for close to 4 months now. Storj may be more expensive, but it sure does spurt more on the charts

Hasn't done anything?? July 25th - Sia v1.3.0 released


-Automatically repair files online without keeping a local copy
-Increased mempool + other network capacity upgrades
-Greater wallet stability - 2x faster blockchain download + more fixes and improvements



" Introducing S3-style file sharing for Sia through the new Minio integration https://blog.sia.tech/introducing-s3-style-file-sharing-for-sia-through-the-new-minio-integration-bb880af2366a " This was Auguest 3rd.


They've been working hard on their product. VERY active development team. The cloud industry is growing every year. This isn't an over night pump man.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on August 09, 2017, 03:27:46 PM
Siacoin is a real product. Others like "Filecoin" is just a whitepaper ??? "Storj" is way more expensive then Sia.

The development team is working hard on their product

Patience is key

HODL
Sia hasn't done anything to justify the patience and hope placed in hodling it for close to 4 months now. Storj may be more expensive, but it sure does spurt more on the charts

Hasn't done anything?? July 25th - Sia v1.3.0 released


-Automatically repair files online without keeping a local copy
-Increased mempool + other network capacity upgrades
-Greater wallet stability - 2x faster blockchain download + more fixes and improvements



" Introducing S3-style file sharing for Sia through the new Minio integration https://blog.sia.tech/introducing-s3-style-file-sharing-for-sia-through-the-new-minio-integration-bb880af2366a " This was Auguest 3rd.


They've been working hard on their product. VERY active development team. The cloud industry is growing every year. This isn't an over night pump man.
Looks like I jumped the gun on that one. Thanks for the pointer, coin is back on the radar


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: Btc_1856 on August 09, 2017, 03:30:13 PM
This is a good coin, but it was better to take it earlier, but not now, now it will be hard for him to grow strong

Still, it is earlier because of the value of SIA still cheap in the market. SIA will become strong when the market settles and the price of SIA coin will increase in the market but it is becoming more secure in the online.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: lukey on August 09, 2017, 04:04:24 PM
I think Sia has a bright future. But I also sold my coins yesterday, as I am not really sure whether price will drop to 250 or lower, because of the article published, that they don't care about coin price - they care for the product. So all the traders will move out short term and come back at a later stage.

But their product fucking sucks. Try it. You'll know what I mean.




"fucking sucks" but in the last 30 days storage has doubled from 30TB last month too passing 70 TB.

Won't be long till the network holds 1 PB ;D 



Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: sserugh on August 10, 2017, 02:22:18 AM
It need a. It more recovery time.. like a month och 1,5 to get back to the value before the BTC fork


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: supertee on August 10, 2017, 06:42:00 AM
The product is not that bad, there is a lot to be improved.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: btct22 on August 10, 2017, 06:43:57 AM
Yes backup is hard to do properly even when you don't have a distributed storage network to worry about!  :)  I think the software will come right.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: hieuho381 on August 10, 2017, 07:11:28 AM
I think SiaCoin has not attracted large investors because the altcoin has no future roadmap and developers have very little information about this altcoin. I hope in the future SiaCoin will have more information


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: nellz on August 10, 2017, 09:58:45 AM
I think SiaCoin has not attracted large investors because the altcoin has no future roadmap and developers have very little information about this altcoin. I hope in the future SiaCoin will have more information

say that to the whales on exchanges.. you might miss the train if keeping said it impossible. this coin have potential to going up again. it just a matter time to take it up again. im still keeping some siacoin for my future. im hope this coin and other under valued coin rise again like in may. im an exchanges guy so im not believe too much what people would say. im believe what chart has given out. ether going down or going up. but still now is a perfect time to buy some siacoin if you ask me.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: supertee on August 10, 2017, 10:02:23 AM
I dropped Siacoin, went to XEL, riding the high now and then buy even more Sia at cheapter price with the wins from XEL... At least that's the plan.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: sweerty1 on August 10, 2017, 10:05:55 AM
As I said in another post I feel like Siacoin may do good as well but it is nearly impossible to see high prices.  Max price is its opponent amazon's price. If it passes then noone would use Sia.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: supertee on August 10, 2017, 10:09:48 AM
Then they just adjust how much sia their service costs........  ???


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: Charloz24 on August 10, 2017, 10:37:34 AM
I am in a long HOLD mode with SIA, I really think price will be 10X from now in 1 years. Remember, always do to opposite of the crowd to be successfull.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: toolucky98 on August 10, 2017, 11:39:26 AM
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I am in a long HOLD mode with SIA, I really think price will be 10X from now in 1 years. Remember, always do to opposite of the crowd to be successfull.

Because 90% of trader always lose their money  8)
Just need to learn how to avoid being fooled by the manipulation of the whales


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: wajik-tempe on August 10, 2017, 12:05:35 PM
I see the SIA is in the support price to buy,save and wait in the next few weeks there may be a Pump so do it before it's too late guys  ;)


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: lokinator on August 10, 2017, 12:49:51 PM
I am pretty apprehensive about Sia right now. I feel like there is far too many coins currently and they are selling their "official" asics now. Once those things hit the blockchain next year the total amount of coins will increase by a 1/4 EACH MONTH; each miner can apparently mine 150,000 SC a month. I think the per coin value will decrease over time, just due to sheer volume. The 5 or 6 thousand coins I am currently holding will probably be worth $0.000001 each by June of next year :\.

I used to have high hopes for SIA ... But now, I just don't know. Probably going to sell them off at the next pump.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: Olivious on August 10, 2017, 12:57:06 PM
The whitepaper is great and the devs are working hard but the marketvalue is in bearish, in the future this will pump to a new ATH and will keep surging.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: NaXxow on August 10, 2017, 01:26:20 PM
despite the update integration of sia + minio, it doesn't attract more investors. but anyway, good job to the devs on keeping the project updated. rest assured that future of this coin is still on the right track.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: Rippa84 on August 10, 2017, 04:15:50 PM
Once those things hit the blockchain next year the total amount of coins will increase by a 1/4 EACH MONTH; each miner can apparently mine 150,000 SC a month. I think the per coin value will decrease over time, just due to sheer volume.

Wondering where u got that from? O_o

The Blocktime is and will stay 10 Minutes. The reward decreases by 1 every Block, to a minimum of 30,000 SC per block.
Actual reward is around 180,000 per block. Thats 180,000 *144 = ~26,000,000 per day and 26,000,000 * 30 = ~777,000,000 per Month.

With a total supply of nearly 28,5 billion SC today that is more like 1/40 (so 10 times less) increase, and as already mentioned that value is contantly decreasing.
Not forgetting features like proof of burn.

As I said in another post I feel like Siacoin may do good as well but it is nearly impossible to see high prices.  Max price is its opponent amazon's price. If it passes then noone would use Sia.

That is not a problem at all, cause all u have to do ist adjusting the costs in SC.

Devs also didn't say they want the price low, they stated they want it to be stable. Renters, Hosts and Miner should have a reliable token und no pump and dump bullsh** to make day traders happy.
Growing in a healthy way, nothin more.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: lokinator on August 10, 2017, 05:09:59 PM
Once those things hit the blockchain next year the total amount of coins will increase by a 1/4 EACH MONTH; each miner can apparently mine 150,000 SC a month. I think the per coin value will decrease over time, just due to sheer volume.

Wondering where u got that from? O_o

The Blocktime is and will stay 10 Minutes. The reward decreases by 1 every Block, to a minimum of 30,000 SC per block.
Actual reward is around 180,000 per block. Thats 180,000 *144 = ~26,000,000 per day and 26,000,000 * 30 = ~777,000,000 per Month.

With a total supply of nearly 28,5 billion SC today that is more like 1/40 (so 10 times less) increase, and as already mentioned that value is contantly decreasing.
Not forgetting features like proof of burn.

As I said in another post I feel like Siacoin may do good as well but it is nearly impossible to see high prices.  Max price is its opponent amazon's price. If it passes then noone would use Sia.

That is not a problem at all, cause all u have to do ist adjusting the costs in SC.

Devs also didn't say they want the price low, they stated they want it to be stable. Renters, Hosts and Miner should have a reliable token und no pump and dump bullsh** to make day traders happy.
Growing in a healthy way, nothin more.

I got it from the official projected statistics of the SIA miners (Obelisk). In June of next year they are projected to mine 150,000 SC a month. Each and every asic miner sold is supposed to mine that. If even just 5000 miners are sold (initial amount being sold) that will be 750,000,000 newly mined coins each month. Which is roughly 2.5% of the total coin supply each month.

As with any ASIC -- once one is mass produced, it is copied and resold by several companies. An estimated 25-50,000 asics for SC are likely to exist by the end of 2018. Each one mining 150,000 coins a month. 7.5 Billion coins minted each month. Of the current 28 billion coins. Equal roughly 1/4 the total coin amount created each month (I realize there will be billions more coins by this time next year so you can adjust %s accordingly -- but according to your own fairy tale, there should be LESS coins this time next year -- which is not true at all btw).

Whoever told you the value is constantly decreasing, clearly hasn't been following the coin. Do a little "science" experiment and jot down the current number of coins right now. Come back tomorrow and look at the total coins -- You'll see a metric shit ton more coins tomorrow than today.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: Surging Chaos on August 10, 2017, 05:11:34 PM
Devs also didn't say they want the price low, they stated they want it to be stable. Renters, Hosts and Miner should have a reliable token und no pump and dump bullsh** to make day traders happy.
Growing in a healthy way, nothin more.

I'm glad someone else other than me gets this.

The problem was the person who wrote that Sia article twisted the words from the Sia team and distorted their statement into assuming they wanted SC price to stay down. When in reality, the Sia team said their project is not designed as a pump and dump vessel.

Sia really needs a PR rep.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: Just2102 on August 10, 2017, 05:34:20 PM
According to you what price can we expect by the end of the year ?


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: justin86 on August 10, 2017, 05:37:42 PM
Sia coin is really amazing but I am not sure if they can be a competitor to dropbox and google drive, maybe it will be acquired by those big competitors in the future.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: GreatOrchid on August 10, 2017, 07:54:10 PM
Siacoin has a good project, good products, and very good team, one of the best i have ever seen on this community, so yes, it can be raised.
At the moment this coin is at 270/sat each, i see it at 800/sat max at the end of the year, remember that there is a lot of coins on the market and it is impossible to reach a high value like $1 each for example.
Siacoin can grow, but not much.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: Rippa84 on August 10, 2017, 08:08:39 PM


I got it from the official projected statistics of the SIA miners (Obelisk). In June of next year they are projected to mine 150,000 SC a month. Each and every asic miner sold is supposed to mine that. If even just 5000 miners are sold (initial amount being sold) that will be 750,000,000 newly mined coins each month. Which is roughly 2.5% of the total coin supply each month.
Till here your direction  is almost correct. Despite the fact that there are just 4000 pieces beeing sold in the first batch.

After that it went all wrong.


As with any ASIC -- once one is mass produced, it is copied and resold by several companies. An estimated 25-50,000 asics for SC are likely to exist by the end of 2018. Each one mining 150,000 coins a month. 7.5 Billion coins minted each month. Of the current 28 billion coins. Equal roughly 1/4 the total coin amount created each month (I realize there will be billions more coins by this time next year so you can adjust %s accordingly -- but according to your own fairy tale, there should be LESS coins this time next year -- which is not true at all btw).

Whoever told you the value is constantly decreasing, clearly hasn't been following the coin. Do a little "science" experiment and jot down the current number of coins right now. Come back tomorrow and look at the total coins -- You'll see a metric shit ton more coins tomorrow than today.

The estimated reward of 150,000SC per Asic is not stable. It is estimated for the first month with 4000 units sold and decreasing after that. If less Obelisks are sold it will be more per unit.

What u ignore is the fact, that the daily Block reward is not about hashingpower. If there are 2 Billion asics it won't rise. Hashingpower just decides how much of the cake  u get.

With 4000 Obelisks sold and no gpu mining , u get 1/4000 of daily reward. When month later there are 8000units u get 1/8000 and so on.

I also did not say the total supply is decreasing, i said the amount of daily mined sc is decreasing. Exactly 144 SC per day.

So please stop ignoring the algo and do math on a regular basis.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: lokinator on August 10, 2017, 08:16:53 PM


I got it from the official projected statistics of the SIA miners (Obelisk). In June of next year they are projected to mine 150,000 SC a month. Each and every asic miner sold is supposed to mine that. If even just 5000 miners are sold (initial amount being sold) that will be 750,000,000 newly mined coins each month. Which is roughly 2.5% of the total coin supply each month.
Till here your direction  is almost correct. Despite the fact that there are just 4000 pieces beeing sold in the first batch.

After that it went all wrong.


As with any ASIC -- once one is mass produced, it is copied and resold by several companies. An estimated 25-50,000 asics for SC are likely to exist by the end of 2018. Each one mining 150,000 coins a month. 7.5 Billion coins minted each month. Of the current 28 billion coins. Equal roughly 1/4 the total coin amount created each month (I realize there will be billions more coins by this time next year so you can adjust %s accordingly -- but according to your own fairy tale, there should be LESS coins this time next year -- which is not true at all btw).

Whoever told you the value is constantly decreasing, clearly hasn't been following the coin. Do a little "science" experiment and jot down the current number of coins right now. Come back tomorrow and look at the total coins -- You'll see a metric shit ton more coins tomorrow than today.

The estimated reward of 150,000SC per Asic is not stable. It is estimated for the first month with 4000 units sold and decreasing after that. If less Obelisks are sold it will be more per unit.

What u ignore is the fact, that the daily Block reward is not about hashingpower. If there are 2 Billion asics it won't rise. Hashingpower just decides how much of the cake  u get.

With 4000 Obelisks sold and no gpu mining , u get 1/4000 of daily reward. When month later there are 8000units u get 1/8000 and so on.

I also did not say the total supply is decreasing, i said the amount of daily mined sc is decreasing. Exactly 144 SC per day.

So please stop ignoring the algo and do math on a regular basis.

Even with the "corrections" you pointed out -- There is just far too many coins already and far to many being created every day for there to be any serious value in SC. People buying 1k or even 10k of them will likely never see any real profit. People "investing" in SC better be buying up literally hundreds of thousands of coins and then holding them for 10 years. If they do that, they might be able to make a car payment one month with the profits (but only if they drive a Hyundai or something. No nice cars in this scenario).


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: SirLancelot on August 11, 2017, 07:35:38 PM
I think SiaCoin has not attracted large investors because the altcoin has no future roadmap and developers have very little information about this altcoin. I hope in the future SiaCoin will have more information
Indeed, this is what this particular coin is lacking on. Not only this coin, but all the altcoins on a whole do not have any potential of taking an edge over bitcoins or ruling the crypto market. The SiaCoin has lacked proper details and this project also was deprived of attraction. These are some of the reasons it could not manage to attract masses.


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: sefo on August 11, 2017, 07:57:28 PM
It does have a roadmap https://trello.com/b/Io1dDyuI/sia-public-roadmap


Title: Re: SiaCoin's future?
Post by: silverston on August 12, 2017, 05:18:20 PM
After ico filecoin sia has serious problems, I think this is their main competitor that looks more powerful