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http://54.244.192.52/gamecoin/logo32.pngNEW Unofficial Github Fork - https://github.com/alt-coin/gamecoin

Applying aesthetic fixes and security fixes suggested and delivered by you you guys to get this coin back on track.

If you're getting "wallet out of sync" errors, this should solve it and ensure we're all on the correct blockchain.

Keep an eye on this post for download links to binaries as they become available.
(That being said, anyone who can compile these binaries, especially QT for Win/OSX, have at it maybe?)

UPDATE: Petr1fied has developed and implemented the changes to the difficulty algorithm, and updated all general coin details:

Okay so when I copy my old wallet.dat file into this every thing goes fine...

then after a while the wallet tries to sync....

What is the block we are on with this? 19445 is what I have.

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We're thinking of working on a way of keeing checkpoints in an external file, so updates to checkpoints can be delivered without a recompile.
Eventually,the litecoin blockchain will stop creeping in once more people start running the new code.

Very nice new thread.
Nice to see this coin being revived by the community.

Anyone know any other sites that accept GameCoins? Right now the only one I know is http://alt-co.in/ (previously slots.won777.com) They appear to be adding an exchange and escrow section judging by the buttons on the top of the page along with their slot machine. They are also constantly up and down while getting the site up and running but thus far looks promising as it is adopting this coin in addition to several others.

Also if anyone has any ideas about how they want to integrate GameCoin into their site or service, I'm more than happy to lend a hand if I can.
The coin is worth more once it becomes widely adopted, so it's in my best interest to see other GameCoin-related sites come up and offer people other options and possibilities.

lol, scam coin, tray system logo LTC  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Throwing 5 Mhash/sec  :)

Oh, You should've seen the thing when the guy first released it, he had the denomination as FTC and the litecoin logo all over the place, I must've missed the tray icon when I was fixing it up.

Yeah, the dude that first released it was likely trying to scam the hell out of everyone and cash out, but the general opinion here seems to be that this coin has a cool name, so we've all chipped in a bit to let it live.

Ya Gamecoin isn't a bad name. Glad to see it being revived, and maybe a long future ahead.  :)

Is it like 600 more blocks into difficulty readjusts? Difficulty should drop a bit, if we can get through the first batch.
Yay 2 blocks  :)

Whats the current difficulty?

It's at 1 right now.

I also think that this would be the best way of updating the checkpoints.
I was thinking of this for the coin I am working on.

Great job! Will continue mining this coin. This is the only coin with some potential that's released lately. GAMEcoin, really like it. Hopefully this will become a real currency in games soon

Client says last block generated is 11 minutes ago, but my cgminer didn't say 'network found new block'

What's up with that?

Sometimes that happens. Out of 22 blocks it happened once to me.
It can depend on your latency or connection.

Yes, it's working now. Coin seems to be back alive. 6 blocks last hour  :)

It's trying to download 300k + blocks again..

hmm I am getting the same sync problems.

Sync worked here, still have some unconfirmed.

Unfortunately some people are unable to follow simple instructions and delete the litecoin blockchain from their %appdata%\gamecoin directory before starting the new client so they're causing this syncing problem.

As long as you're using the new client it will reject this foreign blockchain but not until it hits the first checkpoint at block 15,000. I think we need to add some more checkpoints in the very low block numbers so that the updated clients will reject this foreign blockchain sooner.

So those people did not understand the goal of the updated client? shame..

Edit: I thought we were already at block 19500?

Okay but then will that mean that all of us who done it correctly would have to redo the install also? Or will the sync issue go away once everyone follows the directions?

It gets annoying seeing it pop into sync and out again every once in a while.

Hi all,

It's a combination of thing.. My QT kept getting stuck at block 14999, then sometimes it would say it needed to download the whole litecoin chain again..

I fixed it by starting it with the connect option the first time and connect to a proper gamecoin node.. Maybe we can post some here for ppl to use?

Also I believe the IRC channel is infested with lite/gamecoin ppl.. So if you start with default options you might get connected to people with a wrong blockchain..

I'd suggest adding a new channel to irc.cpp especially for the new fork/release to Ensure that all people with the new client are in a channel with only new clients. That might help.

So in short:
- delete everything in %appdata% except wallet.dat and gamecoin.conf
- edit gamecoin.conf (the first time) with the option
- start QT client and let it download blockchain
- stop QT client
- remove connect statement from .conf file
- restart gamecoin.conf

Have fun! :D

Could you post some valid nodes IP adresses?

Thanks!

So what is the valid node?you could start by posting your .conf file if it did indeed help.

Well, I connected to my own Linux machine, so that won't be much help ;-)

But I enabled upnp for you guys so try:
54.244.192.52:9776

Remember, please remove the connect option once done!

let me know if it works..

EDIT: Changed IP

so I would put:
connect=removed per request  ?

Yes..

I'm busy setting up an AWS node, should be ready in a few  minutes..

Dead coins, should just stay dead. No need to necro this one

OK please use:

54.244.192.52 instead.. Would you be so kind to edit your post and remove the earlier IP?

Thnx

jay used a new irc channel but people brought their bad blockchains with them  ::)

@Tyrion@ I've sent jay a PM about adding some extra checkpoints to his git repository. Not had a response yet though. This is the content of the PM:

opinions are like assholes... everyone has one.
I enjoy mining this because its one of the few that I can atm due to not having a farm or ati cards for that matter.

If you got an issue with a coin dont mine them mkay? Now go back to your worldcoin or whatever hot coin your on right now and let those of us that want to have fun alone.

We've pushed the new changes (and new tray icons) and we're good to go on this end.

He added the checkpoints to git already I think (did a pull request and saw them there) or did you put them there?

Also saw someone updated the icons..

I'm building it now, and I'll post it in a few minutes...

---
Just saw the latest reply! Good! I'm at it :)

 ;D

yep even trying the fix the wallet for me tries to go back on the old chain .

And here it is:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0f2VDPOrXt4dzk1dzNzb3F5bmc/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0f2VDPOrXt4dzk1dzNzb3F5bmc/edit?usp=sharing)
Should be the same URL, but posted it anyways...

Thanks tyrion. I'll send some more GME your way for your trouble.  ;D

You're welcome and thanks! :)

Let me know when everything is running smooth with the nodes so I can turn of the AWS node..

It's still coming up with "synchronising with network..." and displaying like it's trying to download 300K blocks but it's definitely only downloading blocks from the correct chain because I've had 2 incoming payments whilst it's been displaying this. Hopefully this minor niggle should resolve itself in time when those using the new updated client outweigh those bringing their litecoin blockchain into the mix.

so far soo good. Getting payments regularly now from pool and just got an updated block 22 seconds ago.



Did you delete everything in your %appdata% folder inside your folder besides the wallet and config file? This has to be a fresh install. So the only thing to keep is those 2 files.

Yep, completely cleared everything but wallet.dat. It's showing as downloading but it's not actually doing so. It's definitely on the correct blockchain and downloading the new blocks from it, it's just a display oddity because I'm connected to peers who have 355K blocks.

http://i41.tinypic.com/14mwhv.png

Worked like a charm. Thanks!

yep mine just kicked back into syncing itself.

It does come and go though... probually when it connects to a non fixed wallet.

Guys:
Don't think we had one yet right?
http://54.244.192.52/gamecoin/chain/Gamecoin

Tips are welcome ;-)

Cheers!

I liked the old (slo/utty) look better.
But it's still the Litecoin icon in the taskbar :-(

Just remember, as I've said several times in the previous thread.

Your wallet will claim that it is out of sync with 350k blocks required. Just ignore that. All it means is someone on the network has the LITECOIN blockchain instead of the proper GameCoin blockchain they likely manually placed it there in an attempt to hurt the coin. Your wallet see's that there are a possible 350k blocks and lists your wallet as out of sync. However will not download the incorrect chain.

While you are "out of sync" you're wallet is actually fully up to date, and functional. You are able to send, receive, and mine.

This problem should resolve itself later on down the road as more check points are hit and the person(s) with the incorrect blockchain fix, update, or close their client.


In short, just ignore wallet being out of sync. The network and current checkpoints make it so your client will not download the incorrect blockchain. Unless you are connected to a single node where the person operating the node changes the blockchain then you may experience problems until you get off of that node and re-download the blockchain.

I did the deletes and everything, but even though I get the snyc thing, it still functions perfectly.  :)
Glad to see some progress, and community work bringing gamecoin back to life.
Anyone up for making a good gamecoin logo? I was thinking a GC in the center, or something.
And a Gamey design or feel to it.

Yeah i just cobbled something together quick because what was there was just awful and obviously lazy.

This coin is junk what does the coin even do and why is it called gamecoin?

Why is any coin called whatever it is? Why even use the term "coin" for each iteration when they don't have anything to do with coins.


The GameCoin already has more acceptance and use than most other "junk" alt coins.

It's primary use is currently on this site http://alt-co.in/ Where it can be used to feed a slot machine, and soon more. The site is in beta and constantly adding new features. Looking at the top of the page it will at some point include an exchange and escrow listing.

Right there it adds entertainment value with gambling it away. More than can be said about most of the other alt coins that aren't on an exchange.

Nice job, sent you some GME for the effort  :)

Yeah, I think we found around 150 blocks in the last 24 hours so hopefully we should hit block 20160 in about 2-3 days and the difficulty will come down.

Yeah, as I said before, I'll aslo help people integrate GameCoin into their games if I'm able.

I might be changing the GameCoin promo for the slots a little, but it looks like we'll be keeping it, as well as adding ways to get bonus GameCoins into any future games we put up.

Hopefully this will spread the coin into further circulation, with more people holding a smaller number of coins.  That's how a healthy economy works ;)

Someone should also make a GameCoin arcade that accepts 0.25 GME to let you play some classics in-browser.

Hi,

I was mining until yesterday to keep it going, and it seemed like others were mining too, so I switched to something where I can be sure to get coins that I can convert easily, as I still need to get my hardware/electricity investments back. Seems like now there is nobody else mining (no new block for ~9h).
My suggestion: I'll continue mining with my 3MH (should give an average of two blocks per hour at current difficulty) and you make me an attractive offer in btc or ltc for 200k gme so that I can afford to continue mining.
I will switch back to mining gamecoin for the time being until offers pour in.
Sounds fair?

I suggest the automated escrow service at http://exchange.dudeami.com/ for doing any exchanges.

Kind regards
Mike

No login available on an exchange/escrow service?  Seems like the one feature they would ensure is developed before launching.
Also looks like they've still got the default copyright message on the template that was used.

Haven't actually used it yet but read about it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198891.0 and it seems to work.
Open for alternate suggestions.

Oh it seems to be the only viable option for the moment.  I'd just be a little wary of anything that handles my money and doesn't offer me at least an account to connect all those wallets to.

Especially when the owner "developer" hasn't changed default dummy content from the template, and has typo'd the subdomain on the page.  Those were some of the issues that plagued GME when it was released the first time ;)

Trying to keep this thing alive. Just found a block!

I just got an idea - perhaps also interesting for others to participate in:
Over the next hours/days I'll do some transactions to myself with a fee of 1000 GME each, so the happy miner that gets to mine that block has a good incentive :-)

So... make sure to grab those and don't let the money go back to me ;-)

If someone was to make gmc merged minable, it would make it gain a lot of attraction.

Even without a login, it seems reasonable in how it works: You send, the other sends, you get it forwarded. Other one does not send within an hour, you get yours back (probably without fees, doesn't state so explicitly, but I'd assume it to be that way.
So I assume in any way that it'd be better for me to initiate any deal by sending the GMEs first since we do not know how many confirmations it takes until they are there.

BTW, jayo89, you seem quite fluent with the source code - any idea of what new diff we can expect after diff change? What minute interval does the source aim for?
Would you consider yourself able to implement a more dynamic algorithm like with BitBar, or the new one about to go live with Freicoin in ~20 blocks?

I'm not aware of anything scrypt being merge-mineable so far.

That's exactly my point.

A transaction fee of 980 GME is waiting for whoever grabs it...

The difficulty change seems to follow the standard algorithm, so the difficulty is going to drop proportionally so that the average hash power over the last bit would be enough to mine coins at the target rate.  I was thinking of using a more fluid algorith that would sort of look at a "graph" of mining activity over the period, rather than an average.  ie if mining power is obviously on a sharp decline, make the difficulty lower than only a slight decline, even if the averages in those two scenarios would be the same.  This would hopefully make for difficulty adjustments that are more realisitc, preventing both an unsuitable difficulty for the whole network, or a ridiculously low difficulty that is taken advantage of by the opportunistic few.

Also, from the source code:


Difficulty shift is aimed for every 3.5 days, assuming a block is found every 2.5 minutes, that gives us a difficulty retarget every 2016 blocks.

Hm ok already thought so that this would be the standard algo with only slight mods. Consistent with the quick'n'dirty approach everything seems to have been done by the adaptor.
When changing the algo it will mean a hard fork, so we should be careful in getting it announced properly.
BTW, I grabbed those 980 fees myself...

Sent another transaction with 1020 fees out. Grab it !

Ok, back to business: I could be mining WorldCoins with a good profitability right now as they are freshly listed at an exchange.
Who's willing to offer 0.5 btc or 20 ltc per 50k gme , with 200k gme up for sale?
With WorldCoins I could be doing 0.75btc in the same time, so I think that's a fair deal. In Exchange I'll continue mining gamecoin keeping the net going until others start mining as long as I find buyers.

Yeah, i figured any intense changes would, which is why i sort of waited until we could gather some community support/solidarity for the coin.

It'll just take some doing to find some time in my schedule for a more complex endeavour like that (This is just a hobby for me, though I do write code for a living as well).

Nice!  Is it alright if I post links to this and the QT client download on the GameCoin page over at alt-co.in?

Also if anyone has any c++ experience and wants to actually work on the new fork, PM me and we'll talk.

Block 19731 is proof of the 980 transaction fees I sent earlier :-)

I was mining up until last night (maybe 2 blocks an hour). I had to stop as I need to rebuild my mining computer inside a crate to give more air circulation. I'll jump back on it later tonight and stick with it until we hit block 20160 at least.

The standard 2016 blocks difficulty retarget certainly seems to be a coin killer at the moment. With new coins being launched every day miners hop from one coin to the next and a coin can easily end up stranded with a high difficulty and the next retarget too far away for people to continue with it.

It really needs the difficulty to be retargeted a lot faster to avoid this. Maybe once every 100 blocks.

I was thinking so, but as discussed we sort of need to get everyone on board all at once to avoid a nasty hard fork and alienating half of our people.

But yeah, if the difficulty retarget was a little quicker, it'd be less prone to abuse (from being too low) and collapse (from being too high and everyone bailing out).  We would definitely see some more realistic numbers.

We'll also be wanting to add some new checkpoints for the correct side of the fork once the community decides we should go forward.

In the next few days we'll have a real-world example with FreiCoin. Mostly stranded at 1-5 blocks/day after it was hyped on bter.com, many miners jumped aboard, then difficulty quadrupled and everybody left ship right thereafter.
Barely usable right now. Having a solo-mined block from 8.5. that's still not reached maturity.
I'm sending my fpga hashing power there right now as there's a planned fork in ~15 blocks where they introduce a new diff adaption algo that should act much faster (144 last blocks taken into account as to my understanding, diff can halve within that many blocks).
Also with the other unique concepts of Freicoin I think it's one of the most interesting coins.
Should keep an eye out for how it turns out for the coin with the new algo.
Also as a side note for traders: At the hard fork there'll be a hard diff adjustment to 1/4 of current diff, so profitability should immediately jump from ~25% to ~100%, offering interesting possibilities for miners that are mining at that time and also for traders...
And for gamecoiners as a research model... :-)

Seems my offer can be interpreted the wrong way, so here I try again:
I'm willing to sell 200k GME for BTC or LTC.
Price expectation: 0.5BTC per 50k GME.
This offer goes along with the service to keep mining Gamecoin as long as I can get them sold and/or more miners jump aboard.

Yeah, difficulty would've exactly quadrupled.  I'm pretty sure that's the ceiling on difficulty increases.

Also, sounds like FRC is doing some interesting things, The only issue I have is that to my understanding demurrage is not done by the system, but rather by the proprietors of exchanges etc.is that the case or am I confused?

Depends on point of view. My understanding that demurrage means to deduct a fixed percentage of your balance with each new block on the network.
The wallet/client does this automatically as it's directly hooked up to the blockchain.

Most exchanges, however, are built in a way that they detect incoming transfers and book them to their internal account that they have set up for you. Since this account then is independent of the account via which you did your payments, they have to implement it themselves. bter.com deducts a fixed amount per day independently of the blockchain, others may choose other methods.
So imo it's not a fault of Freicoin, but rather something the implementors of Exchanges have not thought of in the design of their software, they expected balances only to change through payins and payouts, but not "out of thin air".
So basically nobody is to blame(you cannot plan for every unthought-of-eventuality), they just need to adopt their design.

Working on a gambling site for this currency, and possibly some other newer currencies.  Setting up the server for it now.  :)

Ahh, I gotcha.  So the node's global balance decreases properly with the blockchain, but the daemon doesn't automatically update the balance on all of the individual accounts?

Its stuck in syn.

24k is stuck on incomming.

Just a bug, orn i'm missing something?

New wallet from yesterday

Yeah that's just a "bug" in short at some point someone tried to replace blockchain with the litecoin blockchain. However even though the client will not accept the litecoin blockchain it still see's that someone has those blocks and so it shows up as out of sync.

It's nothing to worry about, you can still mine, transfer coins, and do everything you normally can. Just ignore it saying out of sync. It may fix itself after a few checkpoints are reached.

Yeah I will throw what I have at it for a little while to help out.

Putting my 400kh/s on this

It's because the difficulty is quite high at 1.0 and we need another 385 blocks until the difficulty goes down. Unfortunately there are very few people devoting hashing power to it. Once we hit block 20160 things will improve dramatically but we need miners to help us hit that goal.


Welcome onboard, we can use all the hashing power we can get.  ;D

Found a new block. Come on people, only few blocks left til diff adjustment!

IMPORTANT: Active GameCoiners Please Listen!

It's been suggested we alter the difficulty adjustment algorith for GameCoin.  This would mean the the difficulty would adjust more frequently, allowing the coin to remain stable and active even if the hashrate drops significantly, as the network will respond and drop the difficulty much sooner.  our difficulty adjustment would be over 20 times more frequent than it is now.

The downside is that changing the difficulty algorithm causes a hard fork in the blockchain:  Those users who upgrade their clients to the new algorithm and those who do not.
So, I need to know what the active GameCoiners all think about this, because our nodes essentially form the core network for GameCoin at this point, and we need to all be in agreement before anything is done.

So guys, what do we do?

agreed. I'm in

Agreed, we should drop it to like every 64 Blocks, or even 32 Blocks for difficulty adjustments.
I was thinking a fork and decreasing Gamecoin blocks to 250 each, to make them a tiny bit more scare,
and a drop from where it is at to like 24 Million coins. With 125>62>31>15>7>3 block halfings.
Making 125 in like 1000 blocks from now, etc.

I was thinking of a name potential change as well, Like Global Coins, or World Marks, maybe Taler Coins.
Something that would bring more popularity.

Turns out I need a version for linux to run my site properly.  WINE doesn't feel like working with either gamecoind.exe or gamecoin-qt.exe...

I'll see if I can convert it myself, but I'd like someone else to try as well.

I'm in. Anything that will bring the difficulty down faster is a good thing and it's not like we exactly have that much support on the current chain anyway. I'm finding 2 out of every 3 blocks at the moment with just 1.8 Mhash/s.

@litelord: I'm not so sure lowering the block reward is a good idea as those of us who have been mining it from the beginning will have been getting 1000 per block and those coming to it in future would get much less for their efforts. This will just create a negative vibe against the coin.

I have to agree.  And the name is really the only feature of this coin that made it worth salvaging anyways, so that's likely to stay.

But if we can get Tyrion on board to compile the new Windows QT then I'll increase the difficulty adjustment frequency and get this coin stable.

well drop it to 32 or so for block adjustments, while keeping everything else the same.
This should fix most of the issues.

I still mine this.

Mining this now

1.8 Mhash? Well I was mining nibble coins for a bit, here ya go, 4.5 Mhash of my mining power back to the gamecoin network, lets try and get this difficulty adjustment to happen. Once my other rig gets fixed from ncix, you should see 6Mhash of mining power from me later today or tommorrow  :)

I'm sure he'll agree, I'll happily send another 10K GME his way if he recompiles it.

Maybe you could do something with the litecoin contamination too? If block 1 != the hash of block 1 from the checkpoint force close their client with an error message telling them to delete everything but wallet.dat?

With this hard fork thing... does that mean all coins mined right now would become pretty much... dust?

No I don't think so. Your old coins from the original blockchain will just be transferred onto the fork, and still be usable.

Good good. I dont have many ..actually this is the only coins I have been able to get a lot of ...that is 8 k LOL. I was wondering when dif would go down cuz even now the 1 dif is labor for Nvidia cards of mine

Good thinking. Should advertise it properly.

Nice to see this orphan coin has found a home.

Yeah, all blocks before the fork are identical on both sides of the fork.
But people who don't upgrade are going to be on the wrong side of the fork, and any coins they mine after that point won't be seen as valid by the rest of the network (except to other users who haven't upgraded)

I'm feeling kind of sickly today and may just be stupid or lost or both but I can't figure out how to get the windows client. I went here and tried to download each file separately but it gives me a 404 error? Can someone please point me to a regular download or explain how to get those files from that google docs page? Thanks much in advance and sorry to be a nuisance. Just a bit medicated today and not thinking properly I think. lol

Could someone please help out with this?  My server doesn't feel like compiling the files...

http://i42.tinypic.com/2urxp52.png


Can't say I've ever tried compiling on linux but it should be the same as for litecoin with the exception you're using the github linked in the first post. Maybe try this:

https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php?topic=43.0

Hope you figure it out. :D

compiling takes more ram than I have.  I'll see what I can do about upgrading.

Thank you Petr1fied! :)

As soon as someone gets ahold of tyrion and he's standing by for one more QT compile, we're going to go ahead and stabilize the coin by increasing the difficulty-change frequency.
This will stablilize coin output, even at very low hashrates.

EVERYONE will need to upgrade in order to stay on the blockchain, and ensure your future minings are valid.

Finally figured the stuff with the server out.  Website is ALMOST up and running!

It's taking an insane amount of time for my client to sync, is that normal? I mean it would be like me installing the Bitcoin client right now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208747.msg2193461#msg2193461

Ahh ok thank you for that, I definitely have only the new client as I just installed it tonight. I missed the original Gamecoin release. Thanks again.

is there any working nodes for gamecoin?
i'm running the unofficial fork, however i cant seems to be able to connect to any peer.

add that to your gamecoin.conf file

all dead, non of the nodes listed by you are alive.

oh, woops.  I got that from earlier in the thread.  I had the same problem, added that, and it appeared to work.  Either that or rebooting the gamecoin client worked.

is the peer dns working on the unofficial fork? i think i should give up on this :(


@MitchB nope, i tried restarting it, it still doesn't work. thanks anyway.

I also deleted everything from C:\Users\Mitch\AppData\Roaming\gamecoin EXCEPT wallet.dat and gamecoin.conf

See if that works.

I have a secondary peer DNS built into the new fork, I just need people who can keep solid nodes running to give me thier addresses to add to it.

Looks like we're going to be doing a hard fork and changing the difficulty algorithm from here on out, rather shortly.  At that point the invading blockchain will be entirely incompatible with our own, and the coin will be much more responsive to changes in network hashrate.

addnode=76.95.191.10
addnode=54.244.192.52
addnode=92.205.116.37
addnode=75.118.55.123
addnode=122.150.130.54
addnode=50.158.233.78
addnode=72.11.149.185

Also, if you need someone to build the new files for windows, I probably can.  I have the current version of gamecoind on ubuntu, so I can get that for you too.

Is there any pool still working ?

I don't think so. in fact I think I'm the only one still mining. ;)

Check back later, hopefully the new fork should be out and the difficulty will come down to a comfortable level for solo mining in reasonably short order.

My GameCoin gambling site is up!  http://www.gmebet.co.vu/ (http://www.gmebet.co.vu/) <-- Click that to visit.

We currently have ~11k GME, thanks to Petr1fied!

I'll be working on adding new games such as Blackjack and (maybe) Scratchcards soon, but in the mean time, feel free to bet and suggest new games!

Nope. Which stinks cuz I cant mine without a pool.  Well I can just never find a share.

Here is my current peer info...


11:53:38
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"subver" : "/Satoshi:0.6.3/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 19772,
"banscore" : 0
},
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"addr" : "108.196.184.17:64719",
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"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1369248812,
"lastrecv" : 1369248791,
"conntime" : 1369144263,
"version" : 60001,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:0.6.3/",
"inbound" : true,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 19773,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "92.205.116.37:44807",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1369248815,
"lastrecv" : 1369248791,
"conntime" : 1369144588,
"version" : 60001,
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I'm adding these to our DNS seed (dnsseed.iionsolutions.com) right now, so hopefully that'll fix some connection issues!
(Seems I used the wrong domain for the DNS seed in the source, so the new seed addresses will have to wait for the next major update (hopefully in the next day or so)

@Miner-TE: any peers with a "startingheight" over 19822 (currently) should be ignored. They're the ones attempting to contaminate the blockchain either by choice or not following the instructions in the first post. If only there was a way to tell all good peers to blacklist a peer for sharing an invalid blockchain, that would be a cool addition.

Keep mining people! 288 blocks to go!

Still waiting on that pool lol. been mining 3 days solo and got SHIT. nada... not one friggin block. Show Cudaminers some love will ya?

mmmm you can keep em for your hard work and detication :) Not that I dont want em, but you earned em too. I am just shocked I have not found one block yet. You would think luck would be on your side even with only 120khash over a course of a day with the dif @1.

Mkay I wont say no thanks again :P

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got em just waiting on mature

thanks again dude.

A difficulty of 1 is quite hard to solo mine. I'm pointing 1.8 Mhash/s at it and have been for days and I'm lucky if I get 15 blocks a day. A pool is really essential to keep things moving and give an incentive to those with lower hash rates to jump in, and of course to speed things up in general.

I'll offer a bounty of 10,000 GME to whoever is the first to set up a pool for GME and I'll pay a further 10,000 GME to the pool operator if that pool stays in continuous operation for at least 7 days.

And to those giving it there best to mine but not having any luck post your address and I'll send you a little something for your trouble.  ;)

EDIT: I've sent PoolMinor and BrewCrewFan 1000 GME each. Thanks for your effort guys.  ;D

Got em and big thank you!

I do agree my cut off seems to be around the .4-.5 dif for the nvidia cards. Anything above that I cant solo for whatever reason.
I do however viewed it as a good practice at setting up the solo.... got that down pretty good now lol.

I don't have the knowledge to set up a pool unfortunatly. I'll keep solo mining though with my 300kh/s. I get a block from time to time  :P

Just a little something I've put together:

http://cryptoblackjack.kicks-ass.net/index.php

It's currently testing so if you let me know the GME address it tells you to send funds to I'll credit you 50 GME to play with. you can even withdraw it (and any winnings afterwards). I'd appreciate some feedback. :D

GTaZr1Lur6hw2kWQWHH9hQWjZscz9UFUpV  :)

Very nice, always love me some blackjack as long as it's not entirely rigged heh ;)
Are we going to be able to create an account where we can keep GME in there long term to keep playing off and on? With the current hash rate and difficulty it could potentially take longer to add funds than my interest to play a quick hand.

I am still mining off and on, however I'm waiting on news of the new wallet with different retarget rate.

It's not rigged. There is a freshly shuffled deck every hand which means you can't card count either. ;)

Currently it just uses a session based cookie and only requires 1 confirmation but as I said above post the address it generates for you to send funds to and I'll manually credit the account with 50 GME for you to play.

It's a WIP so I could easily add logins and other crypto currencies. I just need to make sure it's not going to bankrupt me first.  :o


Credited. Have fun. :D

no card counting.. drats. lol

I'll throw a thousand coins at it and give it a try. Would prefer an account linked wallet personally though. I tend to clear all history, cookies, and cache when I'm done browsing.

Ty :) Works great, first hand was 21  ;)

edit: second hand, 21  ;D

Transferring a bankroll of 10,000 GME. Try not to bankrupt me too fast. :D

Well, I accidentally pressed the stand button while I only had 10. The dealer at that time had 12. Still he took another card and got 22. So I won. Is that supposed to go like that? Dealer should have stand as well no?

Yeah, the dealer will only stand on 17 or over.

Ok, thx to clarify that  :) The game works like a charm, great job!

Glad you like it.  ;D

I have to go so I withdrawed (200GME from your 50  ;D) and the withdraw went smooth as well. Can't find any problem.

I will play again later this weekend, so I can lose some coins to support you  ;)

260 blocks to go!

Anyone want to buy 15.000 GME? Taking reasonable bids starting at 5 LTC for the 15k.

Yessssss please.... or open a p2p pool or something that I can cuda with "bangs head repeatedly into desk"

I hope you get what you're after but whilst we're still stranded some 240 blocks from the retarget with a difficulty of 1 and not a pool in sight I doubt anyone is going to give you that much for it right now. I have shitloads of it myself due to mining it pretty much exclusively for nearly 2 weeks in the hopes of reaching that retarget and bringing the diff down.

I messaged Blastbob to see if he wants to do you a solid and setup a pushpool for GME.

A pushpool would certainly help. There are some low hash rate users trying their best to mine this and getting nowhere. If we all join forces in a pool we should get there faster and increase the market value of the coins.  ;D

It will be p2pool for now. Pushpools will be a future delivery.

When can we expect a pool blastbob? I know your pretty fast....lol.

Do it bob! DOIIIIIITTTTT!!!

Any pool is better than no pool at all. I'll send 20K GME your way as a bounty for setting one up. You never know it may be worth something someday. :D

There's also a blockchain explorer here (http://gme.p2pool.nl/chain/Gamecoins) if you want to hook it into it. ;)

Hmm, I'm stuck at block 19000  :-\ ???

Edit: fixed itself after 30 minutes

probably not much point pointing 700 k/hash at it solo?

You can probually more lucky than me. Might find a few blocks.

I find a block every 1/2 hours with 300kh/s

Not sure how you can I have not gotten anything in 4 days now? Thats with around 120.

Now a quick question for solo. lets say I have 3 cards all on dif computers. I run my main computer.
Now could I technically point the other 2 cards at the main computer and would that help with finding blocks? If so how would I get them to work with the other main card?

daemon=1
server=1
rpcuser=BrewCrew
rpcpassword=x
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcallowip=192.168.0.*
daemon=1
server=1
gen=0
rpcconnect=127.0.0.1
rpcport=9777

woooo, I found a block, but..
It has a confirm, is showing as immature (via debug windows > listtransactions) but hasnt appeared in my wallet

"account" : "",
"category" : "immature",
"amount" : 1000.00000000,
"confirmations" : 1,
"blockhash" : "ee0403447cc4c84ab5f987baafd932425f6c1befb150cae5d0ccc6c7342465c0",
"blockindex" : 0,
"txid" : "94ecc9cae7ef16ed4f2f68e89be5a873ac3a5dbe2928caa9903ee36933839bdd",
"time" : 1369489445

That's normal, it will show up when a new block is mined

Edit: congrats  ;)

Point your PC's to :

ipaddressOfMainComputer:9777
e.g 192.168.1.2:9777

Awwww fucken sweet. BTW would this "help" finding blocks then solo? Kinda like what p2p does? Combine the hashing power to finding a block? Or would they all still be independent?

Edit: the reason I ask is because then I would hope to have around the 300khash going to finding a block instead of it all on their own...

I am fairly sure they would all combine rather then working independently, like a pool.
I am sure if I am wrong some one will correct me though

edit : forgot to answer.
Also, yes it would help. The more hashes per sec, the higher your chance of winning the "lottery" :)

Okay one thing is not clear though... when I point... I would use the rpcconnect and put in the 192.168.1.2:9777?
so it would look like rpcconnect=192.168.1.2:9777 in place of the rpcconnect=127.0.0.1?

no, keep your conf file the same.
on your other 2 pc's point the miner to 192.168.2.1:9777 (obviously replace the IP with the IP of your main PC)
also, in your router, turn on port forwarding for 9777 to your main box :)

Yes. The only difference is taht using 192.x.x.x:port allows you to connect several computers/miners to the same local wallet. 127.0.0.1 is localhost and won't accept incoming connection outside of the local system. For this to work you of course need all your computers/miners to be connected to the same local LAN and have your router/firewall on the host computer (where wallet resides) configured to allow the connection.

+1

Okay so I should leave everything the same for the main computer with the wallet with the exception of making sure I would allow the other 2 PCs to connect to it... correct? Leaving the 127.0.0.1 config for the main computer... and then just edit the launch.bats on the other 2 computers to the IP of the main computer...

think I got this.

YOu guys are great. I am soon gonna be really good at this shit and I thank the effort you guys put into helping :)

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correct. and no problem :)

@BrewCrewFan: I do mining though my internal network all the time, usually with a basic config like this:

The rpcport value can be anything you like as long as you use a different port for each wallet you install. You don't even need to open the port because you'll be connecting via your internal network. The only additions I usually make are addnode lines if necessary.

As others have said, just point each individual miner at the internal IP address of the computer hosting the wallet and the port defined in this file and you're good to go.

Good luck in pooling your resources to find a block. :D

Alright guys. I did a test run on the slow computer and guess what... I put in the IP for the main computer into the launch.bat and bang.... it worked now hiccups.


Now the next question is would I need the username and PW added into the launch.bat like normal? I kept it in just to be safe...

yes, use the username and password from the conf file :)

How long are we away from a retarget?


In reply to my own question - I have found 4 blocks so far :)

edit : 5 blocks ^_^

Got 12 blocks in 12 hours with only 600kh/s solo, not much, but still "worth" it  ;)

Great work guys. I think we may even reach 20k blocks today. :D

Is that the retarget?
Also, in the block explorer - why does it show more then 1000 GME paid out for some blocks? e.g block 19947

block explorer here http://gme.p2pool.nl/chain/Gamecoins (http://gme.p2pool.nl/chain/Gamecoins)

How many blocks left?  ;D

48

diff change at 20160 blocks.

Sync with network: 339212 blocks remaining  ::)

As long as you're using the client linked in the first post, ignore it. The client has checkpoints and will not try to download the rogue blockchain. It'll just display like it's trying to sync but be fully functioning.

By the way guys, I've transferred 50,000 GME to the house account on my Blackjack site (http://cryptoblackjack.kicks-ass.net). Special offer for people who post in this thread only. Visit the site and tell me the deposit wallet address it gives you here:

http://i42.tinypic.com/9u9qh0.png

And I'll credit the account with 200 GME which you can gamble to potentially gain more or just withdraw it to your own GME wallet. It's entirely up to you.

Please note the site is session based so you'll need to keep it open in your browser until your account has been credited and you've cashed out.

Also, this 200 GME credit offer is only open to people posting in this topic. I have offered lesser amounts in other topics.

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Though it does seem to load rather slowly

I wouldn't mind giving it a shot ....  thanks.

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Both credited.


It's currently hosted on my local computer whilst in beta testing. I intend to move it to my dedicated server in a few days.

No worries I gave it all back to the house LOL

lol, that was quick. Do you want another go? I'll credit you another 200.

Looks like Miner-TE may be having a little better luck playing with smaller bets.

Edit: Maybe not. House Balance back up to nearly 50K again.  :o

Was doing ok ...  Until ...  just had a 21 ... clicked stand and the page refreshed but won't load. just a white screen/page.

edit: upon reloading and placing another bet ... I received ..."You already have an active game, Click here to resume it."

Clicked on it and the previous game reappeared ... clicked Stand and got the same white page ...

tried 3 times,  I can't finish this game ...  :)

Strange. I'll check the logs.

Is there an "about" page for this coin somewhere so I can see the point of it? I have been mining it but would like to know what it is meant for. I mean is it only meant for gambling and lottos and things or is it possible it could wind up at exchanges as well? Sorry I just like to read and like to know what I am getting into, it would be great if I could get some more details about this coin. Thanks in advance!

Anyway,  It was fun while it lasted. Ending balance 0.5 + that Blackjack. 

Leaving now for dinner. Will try again later.

I tried 4 or 5 times to finish that hand.  Hope you can find it in the logs.

Edit : 
See 4.5 and was able to continue but started a new game.  Cashed out 4.6 :)

I will return later.

Thanks.

It was because both you and the dealer had blackjack so it was a push:
http://i42.tinypic.com/16hvvbb.png

At least I know where to look in my code. ;) EDIT: Issue fixed.  8)

As you would have been returned the 4 GME as a result of a push I've done it manually and cleared the broken game so you should be able to play again when you return assuming your browser remains open of course.


You could try reading the original release topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202764.0) but it doesn't really tell you anything about what the developers plans were for it.

The original developer abandoned the project when it became apparent he had messed up by using the same genesis block as litecoin which resulted in a 51% attack on day one.

Once the 51% attack happened everyone abandoned it apart from a few diehards like myself and jayo89 trying to give it a second life by creating a new fork.

Could it end up on an exchange at some point? Sure, I don't see why not but I can't see that happening until we reach the difficulty readjust at block 20160 and the difficulty comes way down. After that I can see more miners coming onboard and the coin gathering some momentum. Those of us who are plugging away whilst it's difficult & unpopular will be the ones who will benefit most should this happen.

Ok thank you much for the info, I was just curious what the plans are I didn't realize the original dev completely abandoned it. Well I will keep mining until there is a reason not to, I will definitely stick around however long you guys need me til the difficulty readjust. If the diff is too high right now then I guess when it comes down I will be getting rich, I have found 20 blocks since yesterday.

20 blocks, very nice haul.

I expect when we do hit block 20160 the new difficulty will adjust a fair bit downwards due to the low hash rate and we'll finally be able to crank up the speed and bring this baby back to life.  8)

Only 186 blocks to go. :D

+1

All of you, seriously, good job.  Everyone's really pulled together to lift up this abandoned coin.

Alright, as we approach the new difficulty adjustment, we're going to be implementing a more agile difficulty adjustment algorithm that will prevent GameCoin from having these issues in the future.  This will also lessen the impact of many miners jumping on at once on an easy difficulty and racking up large amounts of coins, so distribution between miners will be more fair and more profitable for loyal, regular miners.

What I need is any and all site owners, pool operators, major miners, etc to contact me via PM so we can co-ordinate the re-launch together and make sure nobody winds up with bad blocks.

After this point, any other GameCoin users should update their wallet with the new client which will be provided at launch time.  This will guarantee you stay on the correct (faster, more stable) blockchain, and that all balances and transactions will remain accurate.

Make sure you BOLD that you keep the .conf and the wallet.dat files when updating and delete everything else.

IMO call me greedy but I hope no one jumps on right away so I can hog some GMC because its been a long dry spell besides the few awesome donations I have gotten, lack of pools just killed my mining :(

183 blocks to go..

Is there anyway the dev's can change the block reward from 1000 to 100 or so? Seems like 1000 will provide waaay to much GME, which I think will stop it having any real value.

I came back after dinner,  using the same session on the browser. Deposited the 4.5 and played 2 hands. .....  Lost it all.  No luck.

Will play again later, using my own funds.  Thanks for the free entertainment.  :)

Well I think we need to nominate a specific block number at which we'll all stop mining. Perhaps block 20060 which is 78 blocks away and 100 blocks from the current 20160 target. This is probably about 3-4 days away at our current rate. This should give everyone enough notice that they'll have to update when we reach that block to be on the correct blockchain.

I'll of course update my site as soon as you're ready to go.

Yeah I am down for that. Doubt I qualify as a big miner with my measly 700k/hash but I will stop at 20060 until further notice :)
btw - 12 blocks found so far running the miner for around 12 hours ;D

I'm mining this every day, but only have 300kh/s, so I'm not a big miner. I always keep an eye on this thread though!

Got 9500 GME for sale, PM me your offers!

Maybe you should wait until the coin is a bit more established before selling, you may get more for them..?

If anyone knows much about pools and wants to point me in the right direction I will gladly set one (or attempt) to set one up on my machine for the time being?

Changing the block reward inline can be messy and runs a lot of risks.  Plus that would unbalance everything since it would mean that all coins currently in circulations would've been easier to get, it could drive new miners away from the coin, feeling they are at an unfair disadvantage.

It could also lead to accusations of pre-pumping the coin to get a bunch out into a few hands early, then reducing the block reward to increase the coin value.

Yeah true, just seems like a lot of coins.. 20,000 blocks and already 20 mil coins in circulation.

Shit It wont matter wtf you do haters will hate.


BTW guys I FINALLY found a block. Actually 2. I decided to let it go over night again and found 2 blocks in 2 hours. Now I dont know "who" found them because of the multiple cards going.. but they are found.

I will be pissed if they are stale.

Congrats :)

whats your total has rate with the other pc's?

Ummm dont laugh but around 300khash.

I got 2x cpus ( q6600 and a xeon ) 250gts, 660 and a 450.

not too bad, and hey, at least you got some blocks ;D

Great work BrewCrewFan, glad your dedication has finally paid off.  8)

Yes finally... though I must say I gave that new coin a try which failed.

1 more week and I should be having a nice new card.... what you think could get me for 200 bucks?

Is the startup Blckjack offer still on? In case it is the address is Gfx8jAzzGX8Lrw1QU13YP568prt3DpiRhQ

You need to get yourself some radeons m8.

Credited


Maybe something like a Radeon 7850 or 7870 for that amount of cash.

Thanks

I thought the game would be loaded in your favour? Coz I already won some 50 GMEs.

Nope, completely random. The dealer does have an advantage in that you may go bust before it even has to draw a card but you also have a bit of an edge in knowing that the dealer will carry on hitting until it has at least 17.

Went crazy and blew up everything. Was fun  ;D

Does someone have a node? every time i start my client I have to wait 45 minutes ti sync. It has 13 connections though....

well that could be because its trying to get a bad chain. Dont worry about it.

I know that's why, but it's just very frustrating because I have to wait 45 minutes to start mining  ::)

No you dont need to wait to mine I dont think.

If I find a block, will it not be rejected?

No everyone is solo mining this and unless you find one that is already found it should not. I dont know the specs on how this works but if you did the last update with the current checkpoints you should be alright

Oh ok, I thought they wouldn't be valid once the blockchain synced. (normally the miner does a work restart when a new block is find, no?)

No wont lose anything unless you dont backup your wallet when the thing gets fixed.

All you will need to do is copy your wallet.dat file in your %appdata% folder. Heck you can even keep and BU the gamecoin.conf file too so you dont have to redo it.

PS all it really is are people (all it takes is one person really ) that does not have the last update to toss everything out of wack. That is why you see it sync and then it connects to someone without the update which sends it back to trying to dl that bad part.

Just ignore the syncing message, it's merely detecting a larger (wrong) blockchain but your client won't attempt to download it because it has checkpoints. You can mine with it even if it's displaying syncing as long as you have 20,011 blocks (currently)

Great news everyone. We have a p2pool courtesy of tyrion70 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=103907). ;D

Feel free to point your miners at:

Host: gme.p2pool.nl
Port: 8500
Username: Your GME Address
Password: Anything you like

Stats Page: http://gme.p2pool.nl/stats/

Share optimization for your hash rate:

For example if you have a device which outputs 100 khash/s you can add your Username as:

All hail tyrion70 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=103907).  8)

im gonna hump your leg.....


or this will do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=berLBj5EoiA&list=PLDEE7BCD46BC73838&index=1

That bot sure does like to hump.  ;D

Added some share size optimization info to get the best results out of your devices.

:D you're welcome!

o and offcourse the blockexplorer in case u didn't know already..

http://gme.p2pool.nl

hu?


Your a god for today . BTW troubles with cpu mining. Yes... I mine with CPUs I take every spare khash I can right now.
I used ScryptMiner, minerd, and even the wallet.
I keep getting [2013-05-26 18:16:16] HTTP request failed: Couldn't resolve host 'gme.p2pool.nl:8500 '

Edited my post above.

Thank you for the pool, now I just gotta see if it is worth it or not. The payments seem quite small for around 800 Kh/s considering The amount of blocks I have found solo already. Or is this like PPLNS which builds up over time?

builds up.

The goal right now is push this to the mark as fast as possible... after that you can go you merry way on solo mining. We just gotta stick together right now and get it done.

ok cool thanks for the quick response.

Looking at the pool stats we may not even need a new fork. We should hit block 20160 it 2 days if we keep it up. Then we can have the next 2160 blocks at low difficulty and keep it under out hats seeing as there is very little interest right now.  ;)

Although in saying that a better difficulty adjustment algorithm would prevent this happening again in future. The 2016 block difficulty adjust seems to be the kiss of death for too many a coin these days.

So what is the point of this coin?

The fact that so many coins have identical difficulty adjusts is a symptom of the problem...lazy developers who aren't developing, just cloning litecoin and hoping to cash in.

I'll Hold off for now on the form and see how things progress past the mark, because it looks like that's what everyone wants (feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken).
Though I do agree a difficulty algorithm adjustment would keep the coin stable and prevent this issue in the future, even at exceptionally low hashrates.

Though I've picked up development, I still consider this a community coin so majority essentially rules as far as what stuff I do/don't implement.

The problem is... if the adjustment is not made... who is to say this does not get raped like all the other coins driving up the dif again and we repeat this?

Dont get me wrong I back this coin from launch.... but I dont think I have it in me to see the dif jump again only to be left again where we are. Of course that might change when I get a card that can hash next week but stilll....

What is the point of any alt coin? When it comes down to it they're all pretty much the same as each other. I'm not going to give you the regular BS about how amazing the coin is like you'll get from any of the shills in any alt coin thread on this forum.

With a name like GameCoin I think the most obvious use would be on gaming sites of which there are currently 2 at the moment:

http://alt-co.in/slots.php
http://cryptoblackjack.kicks-ass.net

Perhaps with a name like GameCoin it could also be used for selling games online, who knows? As long as people support and develop for a coin it has a use and in turn a value associated with it.

I may personally develop a Payment API for it so that people can easily accept payment for products on their Web Sites.

What can I say, we few who are mining it whilst everyone else have abandoned it believe there may still be a future for GameCoin. We may be wrong but sometimes you just need to take a stand.

Well our original plan was to fork at 20060 but we'll probably hit that in a few hours. How about we carry on to the proper difficulty adjustment at block 20160 and at that point we implement your new difficulty algorithm. Do you think you can be ready to go in 2 days jayo89?

If not we can provide some blow.... no hookers only because that would distract him and maybe when its all said and done... the hookers.

I'll donate 10,000 GME to a faucet if someone else is prepared to hand out the funds as they see fit.

If someone gives me code for a faucet, I'll put in on the web right next to the pool and block explorer :-)

Well apparantly I was misunderstood. I couldn't sync with the actual GME blockchain (last block generated 6 hours ago), so I couldn't mine. All fixed now.
Great work on the pool Tyrion!

Target time to retarget

0 days 05 hours 12 minutes

Woot! (maybe a bit optimistic  ;D)

I could probably code an automated faucet. I'll look into it later. Currently rebuilding my mining computer in a plastic crate to give it better airflow.

Errrr


Target time to retarget
0 days 05 hours 15 minutes      

Current time to retarget
2 days 15 hours 00 minutes

I've been breaking my neck how to write it clearly.. But the first one is how it should be, the second is actual based on the time between the last 100 blocks.. Still some time to go unfortunately..

Oh I see. No, that was just stupid of me, you wrote it clearly enough, should have looked better  ;)

 ;D good thing though, the pool is either very lucky or we have more hash power cause the current spacing of 1336 seconds is going down. At this rate it might be less than 2 days before the retarget..

pool found 5 blocks in 5 minutes!

getting close to readjust

75 blocks to go...

any guesses as to what the difficulty will readjust to?

Hard to give exact numbers.. Depends on the average time between blocks between the last retarget and the mext.. I think that will be well over 600 seconds which should make the new diff 0.25..

This coin needs a more active community or it is going to die.

Well.. more so anyway.

Our community is quite active.. It's just very small. Not a bad thing though, not yet

bad luck at pool  :(

Aw well.. Expected time between blocks is 20 minutes.. We've had 7 blocks in last 3 hours.. Could be worse ;-)

Oh my finger's on the trigger, as soon as everyone wants the new algorith and we habve someone available to compile the QT on short notice, I'm ready whenever.

+1.  Anyone else love this guy?

Also, my slots output 0.05 GME per spin regardless of bet amount, as a way of sort of spreading the amount of gamecoin in circulation around to people.  Hoping maybe if they notice they have some, they'll take interest.

I like the idea of spreading the coin around, but we could be a little more creative than a faucet.  Maybe very small, very simple games that take 30 seconds or so to play through and reward a small amount of GME? We are GameCoin afterall, let's get a little fancy ;)

That being said, if anyone needs help implementing GME micro-rewards into a small game, I'm more than happy to help out.  One of the keys to a valuable coin is to make sure that there are a lot of people holding a small amount, to keep interest/awareness/demand high.

Everyone went mining MEMEcoin, so it seems.  ::) ;D


I really like the idea, too bad I don't have the skills to make it reality

:-d they have a good pool and blockexplorer :-p

Found some faucet code.. I'll check that later tonight:

https://github.com/Greedi/bitcoin-faucet

I'm not although I did take the opportunity to get 10K of it, purely by supporting it on my Blackjack site.

Finally got my mining rig rebuilt so I'll point my hashes back at the pool shortly.

I'm mining back at the pool (all the stupid coins of today have passed). let's get to the target tonight!

Cmon guys hash, hash away only 54 blocks to go!

Damn it's so close now I can almost taste it. I remember when it was 500 blocks away and I think I was the only miner still on it. :D

Looking forward to that diff reduction. If we hit it on schedule in 1 day, 16 hours (according to the pool stats) I reckon the difficulty will drop to 0.207~

Then watch it get raped again to bump it back though the roof leaving us with the bag again.

Sorry hate to be a debby downer here but I see this every damn time with alt coins. This is how we got into this mess to begin with.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be forked to improve the difficulty adjustment algorithm for the better so as not leave us in the same situation again. I'm all for that.

It'll just be nice to even a few cheap blocks after weeks of putting in a huge amount of effort only to give away a huge chunk of my block rewards (over 50,000 GME so far) in support of a coin that what was essentially dead a few weeks ago.

The sooner we get the new fork out and in use after the natural difficulty adjust, the better.

Yeah working on it I giving it all I got still ( whole 300k lol ) Ill just be pissed if this happens again after how much time invested at least for me. I might just walk away from it all together. I saw what happened to my learning coin...

Anyways 37 to go.

WTS 1m2 GME for 24 LTC. Pm me if you want

24 to go...
I honestly thought we would of hit 2160 whilst I was at work today

it will take a while. New coin in 10 minutes  :P

I am using the wallet from the first page which I downloaded some 10 days back. Is that the correct one? Or has it been updated again?

That's the correct one. There will be an update shortly though

Over 3000 blocks and it's been out what 30 minutes?  ::)

I think I'll just stick with getting GME over the line. Only 16 blocks to go.  ;D

I just try to get a few blocks of every new coin, just in case  :)
Back on GME, let's get that target!

how many did you end up getting?

3 blocks + the giveaway. Not much, but can't expect more with only 300kh/s and it being an orphancoin

I just rely on giveaways for the new coins. Usually just want them for collection. Just received 500 SXC.

Will the difficulty drop after the retarget? How much are you anticipating.

Yeah I got 5 blocks all up. Back on GME now :)

Count em down'
10 to go

I really hope stevenlam or that other guy don't come destroying the new diff.. After all our hard work

O you know they will just because now shuddap about this and bumping it onto the first page lol

W00t

New difficulty is 0.25, down from 1.

Great job guys, it's been a long hard slog but I see we're finally over the line. We just need to agree on a set point for jayo89's new fork to come into play and then all stop mining at (or before) that point to avoid being caught on the wrong side of it.

How about we all pause our mining efforts at block 20500 which is currently 269 blocks away? That should hopefully give everyone enough time to read this.

Guys, as long as you keep mining on the pool, the pool needs to have updated software.. Please give me some time in advance to update my clients and restart the pool, worst case ppl not mining on the pool get invalid blocks.. Also i'd think it wise to release a second update a few days later with an updated checkpoint.

Cheers and good work!

I think sooner than later.... IMO... not everyone will stop. Some will miss it anyways... might as well get it done now.

Thats what she said!

Whoah, hold on now, instead of creating a new failed coin, you decided to revive one? Did we run out of names???

ironically enough, I actually decided to adopt this abandoned coin because of the name.  So basically, yeah.

AMAZING work ladies and gents!  So now the big question:  Do you guys want me to implement to new difficulty algorithm, or should we just let it ride for now and see how things go?  I'm fine with whichever.

DO the fork. Much better now than waiting around and wishing we had done it sooner. We need the syncing issue fixed anyways.

I think we need to implement the new algorithm ASAP. I'm sure you can code the new algorithm to come into force at a specific block number and we can all download the new client and just carry on seamlessly. As long as the block number you choose is before the next natural readjust and all interested parties have time to update their clients we should be all good.

What will the implications of the fork be? Just faster diff reset?

A better difficulty algorithm would be nice. Would also set the coin apart from other coins.

Maybe you could look at the last 2 commits on Mincoin for point of reference on getting a new algorithm to kick in after a specific block:

https://github.com/SandyCohen/mincoin/commits/master

Thanks, I'll take a look later on when I'm free.  so we were thinking have it kick in at next difficulty adjust?  That would also give people a bit of wiggle room as far as when they upgrade.

Anywhere at or before is good. As long as people have time to update their clients and daemons well in advance of the change it should be fine.

It's probably a good idea to also add a few more checkpoints in your next fork, just to solidify this blockchain further

Client keeps having problems syncing.. Last block generated 11 hours ago.. Does someone have a node?

addnode=92.5.97.30

ty! I will try to connect to this node when I start the client

I stopped myself... waiting for the fix

You don't need to stop mining but of course it's up to you where you devote your resources. jayo89 will no doubt update github with his changes which will kick in at some as yet undetermined block number as soon as he is able to do so. At which point we'll get updated clients made. As long as you're using the new client and tyrion updates his pool before we hit this as yet unknown block number you will be able to continue as normal.

I've moved my miners back onto the pool.

I've added an automatic GameCoin faucet to my blackjack site (http://cryptoblackjack.kicks-ass.net) where users will be issued with 10 GME and directed to this thread in order to download the client.

haha, cool  :D

WHo can get this added to cryptsy?

NO DUMPING ! please ?  ;D

i dont even have any to dump, actually gonna compile the client now, care to share me some?

Sure, no problem, but "difficulty" : 0.25000000,  :P 500kh/s should give you like 2 - 3 blocks/hour, or even more.

Why the hurry for exchange? Must really wanna ruin another coin.

actually, it's not rushing considering when this coin came out. And as you can see from phenix coin, holding off from an exchange too long kills a coin

It was well and truly dead when we started with it. It's now an undead coin.

I don't think there's any benefit to trying to get it to an exchange until we at least have the new difficulty algorithm in place. We'll just end up with it getting pumped to a stupid difficulty by those who want to dump it and then be back at square one.

Also I'd love for it to have some tangible use outside of gambling, with a name like GameCoin it could be used for selling games online so I'm going to look into setting up a payment API like that used on bitchain.info where it forwards the payment from a temporary address to the users own address for a minimal fee. I'm pretty sure I could come up with a service like this.  8)

We've got a similar service in the work for alt-co.in.  We're considering dropping the slot machine now that the escrow is in place, and we've got the payment API and Exchange on the way.

and I agree.  I personally would love to see GameCoin as in-game rewards, or used for in-game purchases.  Something interactive like that would be cool as hell.

Well? If this gets added to cryptsy, you'd be surprised it may well trade better due to volumes.

Yes, gogo add it Vern  :P

pm him, the more requests he gets the more he will know people want to trade.

Everyone thinks this is dead coin so everyone will just dump this coin. Wait for an exchange until the revive is complete!

you wont revive until you have an exchange, noone mines dead coins unless they see that they can trade and profit. If it is on an exchange and difficulty is reasonable, people will then choose to mine it. otherwise in the meantime, we'd be fooling ourselves thinking the community will turn to this coin out of the blue.

+1

Only people that seem to want the exchange are those that wanna dump.

How about we let the devs work on getting other things established first? I know some of you are just itching to get it on the market so you can cash out and never be heard from again...

Sorry seen this with just about every coin. People only want to dump the coin and move on to the next best alt.

you'll join elacoin in a week, guaranteed.

if i wanted to dump, even on cryptsy, the kinds of volume i have would empty all the buy orders. but the things is people look at 3 things when they mine now, 1) coinchoose ratings, 2) difficulty 3) cryptsy price.

you have none of the above, worse this coins looses miners everyday. inactivity will kill this coin.

even if this coin went to exchange in two years, i'd still have my 150k, i'd dump it in a day and still it would crash.

i support all idea backed altcoins, this is one of them. i'd hate to see it fail because you guys think it's different. it's a alt coin, let it do what alt coins do. phenix nearly died if it wasn't for our pushing it on to market. if this coin has value it will show it at market. not on google docs exchange were people rob each other blind.

My point is BBQ stayed alive for how long?
No need for an exchange for now. When we get the base on what this coin is for then sure... look at PXC... they got the shit going before the exchange. Its doing very well. Thats because they already has shit in place... for this coin there is nothing yet.

for linux users, when this coin came out, we considered putting games in a repository and charging GMC to get the games. But we can't do that unless we know this coin is going somewhere, we use usd in our everyday life, i need to know how much each GMC is worth then i can safely set a price. I'm not talking out of my ass, and if you were on phenix, then u'd know i' m the one who pro actively bashed cryptsy for adding it too early. Better you let the dumpers do their thing, then in all that chaos, a price is formulated, service providers will then have a marker to use.

This coin, beacuse of it's name has quite the applications, but you have to put it out there. ya'llz ywanna hold? go ahead, it'll die like the others. .

Yeah, I'm getting out of the slot machine business as soon as We complete our other services and I come up with some other "game-ish" way to distribute GameCoins to the masses.  I'm considering maybe buying up a couple Steam codes or something and selling them for GME.

An important thing to remember is that value isn't only determined by how easy it is to obtain a coin, but also what it can actually be used for.  Most "successful" alts obtain value once they hit an exchange, because at that point they can be exchanged for money and/or BTC.  If there were not only games distributing coins, but also accepting them as payment, this would increase appeal.

I'm working on an easy-to-implement payment system that will make it easy for users to make deposits/purchases with GME and any other coin in their alt-co.in wallet.  Hopefully stuff like this will get more developers on board with alt-coins, meaning more purchases for end-users, and more desirability for all supported coins.

In the mean time, if anyone's got a game or anything that they need help integrating with GameCoin, give me a shout and I'll see if I can assist.

In other news, we're going ahead with the difficulty fork in the next couple days.  It will be set to kick in after a thousand blocks or so, that way there's a bit of wiggle room as far as updating clients and daemons.

hello there, well i'll start by saying hi and welcome to the alt coin section. Here we try and make our way by mining alt coins, some better than others.

I'm a miner, trader and developer + part time troll. I'm not a scammer and i believe in fair trade. oh yeah and i'm alt-coin rich http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/096/044/trollface.jpg?1296494117

Difficulty is down to .12 now.  Should be a bit more friendly to mine...

I'm keeping an eye on this thread so I'll be ready to install the update!

OK guys we have a hard fork in place which will take place at block 25200 which is 2189 blocks away at the time I type this. (Halfway between the next 2 difficulty adjust points under the original code). As we're currently on a 0.127671 difficulty and still not meeting the 2.5 minute target I expect the difficulty to go down at block 24192 for the final leg towards block 25200.


What does this hard fork change?

This hard fork took inspiration from the recent hard fork to Mincoin which in recent days has proved very effective at keeping the difficulty at an appropriate value for the network to ensure blocks are solved at or around the target timeframe consistantly.

Once you are running the new version of GameCoin, from block 25200 the difficulty will be evaluated once every 48 blocks. This should be around once every 2 hours after the difficulty stabilizes for the size of the network. Also the difficulty will come down 4 times faster than it rises so this should ensure that we're not at too high a difficulty for too long in the event we get flash miners targeting the coin.


Gamecoin specifications (up to and including block 25199)

2.5 minute block targets
2016 blocks (3.5 days) to retarget difficulty
subsidy halves in 840k blocks (~4 years)
~3360 million total coins
1000 coins per block
Scrypt based


Gamecoin specifications (Block 25200 and above)

2.5 minute block targets
2016 blocks (3.5 days) to retarget difficulty
48 blocks (2 hours) to retarget difficulty
Difficulty goes down 4 times faster than it goes up to protect against flash miners pushing the difficulty up too far.
subsidy halves in 840k blocks (~4 years)
~3360 million total coins
1000 coins per block
Scrypt based


Network Info

Default P2P port is 9776
Default RPC port is 9777


Windows - QT wallet

tyrion70 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=103907) has once again kindly compiled a Windows QT wallet and you can get the download link from his blog here (http://p2pool.nl/blog/new-gamecoin-windows-qt-release/).

If you want to show your appreciation to tyrion70 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=103907), please consider sending a donation to his GameCoin address:

GRDZb1gJWWXuDUM8JeZuKNMKRkaZFwnV9c


Mac OS X - QT wallet

Also we now have a Mac wallet courtesy of maxpower (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=110572) who has been spreading the Mac love recently in his [ANN] The Definitive List of Mac Altcoin Wallets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216672) thread. You can download this client here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mrny9fownxvi8jl/Gamecoin-Qt-0.6.4.0-Mac.zip). One thing to note is that maxpower states that this client may not work on OS X prior to 10.7 Lion.

If you want to show your appreciation to maxpower (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=110572), please consider sending a donation to his GameCoin address:

GYmHJ871jnynvoyjiZhcjC5bbdJGYxide5


Source Code

The current source code for self compiles can be downloaded from GitHub (https://github.com/alt-coin/gamecoin).


GameCoin P2Pool

Host: gme.p2pool.nl
Port: 8500
Username: Your GME Address
Password: Anything you like

Stats Page: http://gme.p2pool.nl/stats/

Share optimization for your hash rate:

For example if you have a device which outputs 100 khash/s you can add your Username as:


GameCoin Block Explorer

http://gme.p2pool.nl/chain/Gamecoins


Sites accepting GameCoin

Crypto Blackjack (http://cryptoblackjack.kicks-ass.net)
alt-co.in | Slots (http://alt-co.in/slots.php)

Very nice work! Now we only need to make sure everyone updates their clients!

bump!

Good work guys. Keep it up!

I hardly have any of this coin. But its nice to see it being revived with an active support.

I'm mining this for a few hours every day. Strange there are so few people mining this at this low diff!

I've not been mining it myself to give others a chance but I may jump onboard to help us hit block 24192 where the difficulty will come down further.

I'll just be happy when the client isn't constantly trying to make me use the Litecoin blockchain (after the hard fork).  Deleting peers.dat is getting old.

Just ignore it if it displays that it's downloading the litecoin blockchain. It won't attempt to download it because of the checkpoints. It's merely a display inconsistency.

Hopefully as you say it should be a thing of the past once we hard fork in 957 blocks.

On the plus side we're down to a 0.0994472 difficulty for the final leg. :)

Nice to see the new client with proper retargets getting closer to the fork.
Also nice to see the added hash rate being put into this coin.

Just waiting for more uses of the coin besides the slot machine and single game of blackjack (still waiting on splits, doubles, insurance, and instant dealer win if they have blackjack)

An exchange would be nice, not so people will dump. Rather it could raise awareness that this coin that was once dead, has been revived and doing well for the time being with support.

Looks like not enough people updated their client...
We have passed Fork block, my client is showing the new proper difficulty however the blockchain is still extending on the old fork according to the block explorer http://gme.p2pool.nl/chain/Gamecoins


Anyone who hasn't updated their client, coins mined after 25200 will likely disappear.

I guess tyrion70 forgot to update the block explorer/pool with the new code. You should stick with solo mining until tyrion70 updates to the new code on his pool.

I personally wasn't able to solo mine. Solved several blocks after the 25200 *think I was the one who solved that magical block* I only got multiple rejected blocks.
I've stopped solo mining for the time being to see what happens as Im getting nothing but rejects and that isn't going to help anyone.

I think most of my wallet connections were to people running the old client.
Would it be possible to add into the code that the client would NOT connect peer to peer with the incorrect version?

What is the block count of the correct chain? Mine is showing 25260.

25263 is mine

That's the correct chain, 25264 (now) and difficulty of 0.336398.


I'm afraid I'm not that familiar with the code. It sure would be a nice feature though.

Unfortunately this is caused by a few idiotic individuals who think it's amusing to add a bad blockchain in their client and is currently plaguing many coins. It doesn't help that the original developer of GameCoin used the same genesis block as litecoin as this gives the rogue blockchain a valid starting point.

As long as you're using the client listed in the first post it is nothing but an annoyance because the checkpoints will not allow your client to download this rogue chain.

As the network of peers using the new client increases there should be some natural peer banning thrown into the mix. Just ignore the syncing message.

Now down to 0.279491 as of block 25296. Looks like it's adjusting every 48 blocks as intended. Now to see if we can stabilize at an average of 2 hours between each evaluation.

• Block 25,200 --> Block 25,248 (0.19889468 Difficulty) = 1:11:49
• Block 25,248 --> Block 25,296 (0.33639779 Difficulty) = 2:22:30
• Block 25,296 --> Block 25,344 (0.27949079 Difficulty) = 1:48:45
• Block 25,344 --> Block 25,392 (0.31521608 Difficulty) = 2:32:27
• Block 25,392 --> Block 25,440 (0.24755224 Difficulty) = 2:20:50
• Block 25,440 --> Block 25,488 (0.21872340 Difficulty) = In progress

The new algorithm is still finding it's feet but it looks like it's doing ok so far.  8)

Really nice upgrade!

Things should improve once tyrion70 updates his pool. At least we're never more than 48 blocks from the next difficulty recalculation which is a lot better than 2016.

We made it! It is cool I don't care how long it takes between. I was just noting after you said how great it was going, lol.

Thanks
-PoolMinor

Try clearing your peers list file.  The checkpoints should prevent the bad peers from being re-added, but if they were added to the peers list pre-upgrade, they might not be blocked.

tyrion70's block explorer and pool are both updated. The pool stats are displaying the wrong retarget information but the important part is working as it should. I've just solved a couple of blocks on the pool and received payment so I guess those of you who had built up PPLNS shares before the hard fork should have also received payments too. ;)

Hashrate ~3Mh/s

current difficulty?

0.139

http://gme.p2pool.nl/chain/Gamecoins (http://gme.p2pool.nl/chain/Gamecoins)

0.114!

i suggested pushing for market, ya'llz made me look like a devil  ::), now this coin is being drowned out by the din of other coins, no matter how much merit a coin has, once it looses crowds it's dead. Worse if you are not listed on coinchoose. bye suckers, you killed this coin by sheer idiocy.

why would it be dead? 8 Mh/s and diff of 0.22

Poolminor your messages keep disappearing..

So this coin is not dead. But maybe it would not be a bad idea to list it on cryptsy? There aren't many people with a lot of these coins I think, so if we agree not to dump everything, maybe some new users will start mining gamecoin?

This is because I decide later that my comments are unwarranted and cause undesired outcomes.  :-[

Thanks for noticing though.  :D


I agree, this coin needs more interest now that the new changes have been implemented. To the exchange...

I think an exchange is an easy way out and a march to a slow death.  This isn't a quick cash out, pump-and-dump going.  This coin's backed by an actual idea and a plan now.
Getting listed on an exchange would get interest faster, bas as all other alts it would fizzle and poof.  The real trick to building interest is to get small casual games accepting GameCoin, GME giveaways and incentives that are game-oriented, maybe auctioning off some Steam codes for GME.  Give it some Game-based value rather than market-maniuplating, pump-and-dump, flavour of the week garbage.

Don't worry guys, I'm not just spewing hot air, I've got some pretty cool things on the Horizon to make it super easy for developers to accept GameCoin payments, and I'm n talks with a couple local devs.

This may be outside of the box thinking, but does this coin have to be promoted to one particular use of the word "game?" Perhaps someone could allow this coin to be marketed for Big Game (fishing, hunting, etc.). I do not have an interest in these things but perhaps someone here does.  :)

I don't think it's out of the box thinking at all.  It's just looking at everything from an elementary level.  Most coins were created on the basis of making money, so thier primary interest would be an exchange.  This coin was revived because the name could lead to come cool applications, so the real value (and where the coin will obtain the best price) is by making it available to the masses, and having places that actually accept it as some form of money (in-game or otherwise).  This is a coin, it's purpose is to be used as a medium of exchange for goods and services, not just as a raw commodity.

Would it be out of the question to impose a value of 1000 GME equals $1 at the box office for say a sporting event? For instance I could set up a ticket box office with a standing buy order of $10 for 10,000 GME for people that want to purchase tickets to the local NBA or MLS events. Of course applying this value to the coin would deplete my actual $$ in a matter of hours. I think there needs to be a local value set before we can achieve a global value.

I was actually cnsidering writing guidelines to some similar effect, imposing guidelines to keep the coin level and stable.

(possbily) Bad news for miners, these would include pretty tight daily deposit allowances in games to allow for fairer play (Nobody will want to play a game when a select few have nearly unlimited funds, and gave developers won't want to accept a currency that would allow that kind of discord in thier games).

If all of these guidelines are met, a game/app/platform will be designated as "GameCoin Approved", and may be featured/promoted by GameCoin, may possibly qualify for a small stipend to get the ball rolling (if the game offers GME as in-game rewards, which will also follow guidelines for approval)

Of Course, GameCoin will always be open-source, so people that don't care about approval don't need to bother, they just miss out on the benefits/trust that comes with it.  It would still be suggested that all developers follow the guidelines regardless to ensure a stable value for the coin, which really benefits us all in the end.

Also, I was thinking of a price more in the range of $0.10/GME.  People forget that GameCoins can be broken down into a lot of very tiny units.  It would probably be suggested that the standard in-game "unit" for rewards be around 0.0001 GME or less (a single "unit" would be equivalent to one basic unit of in-game currency in value (Coins, Gold, GP, etc)).  Remember Approved games would enforce deposit limits to prevent the games from being abused by early adopters of the coin (which actually hurts the coin's value and all of our wallets).

If we went through this we would likely politely ask that exchanges not adopt GameCoin at this time (to prevent mass abuse of the GameCoin System before the target price is solidified, devaluing the coin).  A proper exchange would be launched where miners could list thier coins for cash purchase by game developers/content producers, at prices a little more towards the target price.  But, as I said before, GameCoin is open source and all of these things would be suggestions, and ultimately the masses have control.

some nice ideas here. I will be watching this one  8)

Can i sell my gamecoins for giftcards now? Like walmart or whatever to buy games with. That would be cool, getting a few gamecoins here.. would be interested in $0.10 valuation.

Well, the problem is right now a large majority of the coins are held by a relative few.  That makes demand pretty low.  The only way we can establish and hold a 0.10 valuation would be to try and throttle mainstream offloading of coins by big holders (ie "cashing out"), as this decreases demand and lowers value further, as it shows weak support for the coin.

Trying to offload almost exclusively to game developers/service providers, however actually increases demand for the coin because it shows bigger outside interests wanting in.

So I guess the short answer to your question is no, I haven't seen anyone willing to sell things with serious cash value at that valuation any time soon.  But that's not the direction we're aiming for.

I have stated this before and I am not sure if I was heard but here it is again.


http://www.gamecoins.com/ (http://www.gamecoins.com/)


Will this site have a negative impact on this coin since it has been established well before this coin was introduced?

Not likely.  The copyright says 2011 and the whole thing seems like an obvious and not-so-successful moneygrab.  We can still hold brand integrity over it since it was never well-known

Would it be that absurd to simply change the name of this coin?

Something along the lines of GameTokens? No idea why the entire community continued the "coin" craze when it comes to naming schemes.

We could do a small brainstorm get a few names, then hold a poll to vote on one of them.

My theory is that "Coin" has stuck partly because of laziness, partly to try and snag some brand recognition from BitCoin, and partially because when you think "Coin" you think money, something that has real value.  Th eonly reason I'd want to shy away from "token" is that by definition a token meant to be valueless stand-in for money.

To be blunt, "Coin" is sexy.

Though I'd be totally down to just start calling this coin GP, as a nod to classic RPGs or something like that.

0.21 is not that hard for someone with a few GPU's to throw at it. Unfortunately the core GameCoin supporters tend to have less hash power to throw at it. I'll stick my hashes onto it to get us to the next diff adjust and jump off it again when the difficulty goes down.

I am glad to hear that you will be around everyday to save us from this horrible issue we have every few days.

Thanks

That's called an unstable hashrate. All small coins have them, not all of them are using a difficulty algorithm as speedy as this.  We've improved the situation to better weather the storm, but no solution is invincible.

This isn't a mining-based coin.  So trying to promote it in it's own right and its immediate value to miners is pointless because it has none.  It's sort of a catch-22 because we need to keep the hashpower providers interested long enough to generate interest for the coin's actual purpose, which will give the coin value, which will produce mining interest.  Right now our real problem is that mining interest is produced by low difficulties (something that by nature is fleeting).  So we need stable interest to obtain stable hashpower.

Things could be worse Bytecoin has only 1800 more blocks till the difficulty change, or 2 years  ;D.

I also think if we want more interest we could have xorxor update their post on "the list" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134179.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134179.0)

Alas this may bring more skeptical hash hounds that might not have the same opinion as to where this coin belongs.

I need to personally go where the money is to pay the power bill, at least 8 hours out of the day, leaving me limited hours to support this coin. I only have about 3% of the total GME in existence, sure I want more but I may have already dug myself into a hole trying to justify daily support.

I need value soon, I am not trying to dump when it sees an exchange just trying to see some of my work paid off.

-PoolMinor

It's great to see you have intentions to take this coin forward jayo. I hope you'll succeed. If you need any help, let us know!
I myself do not have the money or the skills to lift this coin up :-X

Yeah, it's understood miners want to see their value.  The only issue is that GameCoin might not be a short-term investment coin.  It may only pay off (if at all) for the few that devote time and resources into it to actually build it into something outside the alt-coin pump-and-dump standard.  I totally understand your frustration though, it sucks putting a bunch of work, effort, and resources that could have been spent elsewhere on something and then waiting for results.  I'm open to suggestions on some sort of incentive or relief for miners because you guys are carrying this coin right now.

I do think we need at the very least GameCoin to be updated on the list, because it's obvious that it hasn't been updated since initial release, and the GameCoin team, community, and mission (or lack thereof) was entirely different.  Personally i feel the thread is not giving this small little sub-community the credit it is due for the monumental (and somewhat uncommon) feat of reviving a 51%'ed coin that didn't have much to offer on the front.

The original GameCoin just may have been the laziest release this place has seen.  But since things changed around here, you guys might be the hardest-working folks here

Oh I'm a small piece of the big puzzle.  All the active posters here have put a lot of faith and effort into getting this bird back in the air, I'm just a delegator that tries to keep everyone on the same page.
I'm as broke as broke can be, so I just contribute what time I can here and there.  The big round of applause goes to pretty much everyone else.

I am open for a trade for currency that is currently trading, i.e. BQC or another alt coin. I have 100K of GME for the right price I can trade to another currency. (9,000 BQC OBO?)

-PoolMinor

-Edited for less ambiguity

just sent you a pm

lol know the feeling... I am out of work due to injury LOL

Guh, that's never fun.  I've been there.

It's sort of neat seeing stuff like this going on so smoothly.

Is there a graph somewhere showing how many of these coins were mined in the first minute, hour, day, week, month etc?

Also, I don't seem to find any details about the actual game?

If there is no actual game that these coins are part of, what is the point? People who create games will have plenty of reasons not to use this coin, especially if the graph ends up showing it started at zero difficulty or some crazy crap like that like all the recent scamcoins.

Actually several groups of players within games have created coins for use in-game before, the problem they all ran into was blockchains are insanely expensive. You end up giving more than 100% of your money to miners! 100% of all the coins mined, then also transaction fees on top of that, what the heck that is insane. It is like saying to the U.S. that if they want you to act as a money transmitter for their currency they have to give you every dollar they print plus transaction fees!

Nothing I have seen so far indicates this coin is any different from any of the other recent scamcoins, and since there seems to be no link to the game there isn't really much indication that the game this currency is part of is even worth playing...

-MarkM-

is it 1000 coin per block
seems got 50 per block

Thanks for the input, I can tell by your post count that you've been here quite a while, so I appreciate you taking the time to do a little reading and give us your two cents.

You might need to read a little closer, GameCoin wasn't launched for a specific game (Actually, it seems it was totally launched by the original dev as an obvious scamcoin, they did't bother swapping out logos or even changing the ticker from FTC!)
However, thee are a couple games with links near the bottom of the main post which accept and distribute GME.

The main reason I took over the GME project once I saw it had been abandoned is more of a curious interest than anything else.  I'd toyed with the idea of a coin that could be marketed an in-game rewards/commodity, but more an an incentive program that a standard and official currency.  It would be encouraged that game studios develop thier games with GameCoin support as an extra: distributing GME as in-game rewards (to bring players in that might want to collect GME) and/or accepting GME in exchange for in-game bonuses.

This coin won't be particularly profitable in the short term, so the biggest challenge is coming up with incentives and profit opportunities to keep the miners here, because it seems a lot of people are looking for relative small short-term gains rather than to be part of something larger.  More than anything I was looking to build/work with something neat, and add another open-source project I can cite contributions to.

tl;dr At the moment this coin can be sen as very similar to the scamcoins, provided you look at it from the perspective of someone hoping for a short-term gain.  We've got piles of ideas and plans, but until they are put into action and show results, they are exactly that.  Those who will benefit from GME will do so a little further down the line, and they'll be the few who see the potential of said plans.

So there isn't really even a clan or guild or whatever of players backing this coin in games, like that Ixian guy who was pushing the idea of Ixians as a nation or race or whatever in Galactic Milieu using Ixcoins as their national currency?

-MarkM-

it's clone, plain and simple. it can be marketed maybe but i'd suggest a restart. this coin failed to take off. what it needs is rebranding, relaunch. and a different reward per block. my wallets combined could give me a hundred thousand, thtz why it's not even tradable for ltc.

Guys I can not run http://i48.fastpic.ru/big/2013/0618/db/0353e25f0311842340ac89de263ea7db.jpg

It was a clone. It's also not tradable for LTC because I've suggested keeping it out of exchanges for the time being because until there is a strong enough network of small services on board, the coin has no value. (Something that these dozens of failed coins' developers didn't seem to understand,).  In the greater scheme of things, the fact that GME has a high reward is totally irrelevant.  It just means more supply going around, which is a stable system would ultimately just lead to proportional prices (You'll notice the Yen is significantly smaller than the US Dollar, all that means is that exchanged denominations are usually larger.)
tl;dr the value of individual coins is not as relevant as the value of the total circulation of the coin, and that value is currently not at a satisfactory level for listing on an exchange to be a wise option.

Also, it sounds to me like that Ixian guy wasn't successful, given the past tense.  So it sounds like that may not be a viable strategy ;)

I really am sorry that this coin isn't what you think it should be.  But hey, the source is on github ;)

Sent you a PM.  Hopefully we can get this sorted momentarily :)

Well Ixcoin itself is doing very well because it is merged mined on a few pools so its difficulty is not too insanely low.

But the big problem thie Ixian guy has of course is third parties printing "his civilisation's coin".

I expect the Fed would have similar problems if every mint in the world could print dollars, not just their own mint.

Basically if you try to back the coins being dumped by all the people mining them and dumping them you are liable to go broke.

Or another way of looking at the same problem is that blockchains are insanely expensive, even if you use merged mining.

100% of the coins, plus transaction fees, all go to miners. That really doesn't leave any reason for any nation to consider using a blockchain, they don't even get any of "their" coins, they are paying over 100% of all their money to the miners!

So yeah obviously the guy was not able to effectively "back" the coins. The most he could do was continue to sell in game stuff for them and offer to buy in game stuff for them. most blockchain coin users do not bother with that kind of thing so IXCoin, GRouPcoin and DeVCoin continue to be the only blockchain-based coins that get used much in the game, GRouPcoins by most groups, DeVCoins because the game development itself favours their use, and IXCoins because of that one guy, who does not even seem to have put together any reasonable size clan or guild or nation or whatever of Ixian people yet let alone actually established an Ixian nation on the Freeciv scale of play.

-MarkM-

I managed to make a successful albeit low ball trade of 10,000 GME for a mere 100 BQC, but it was an actual trade!  :)

Can't sync. Any working nodes?

My current list of peers.


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Searching through Miner-TE's post you will see a lot of "bad" nodes. The ones that are "good" are listed below. There are 3 things that you are looking for; "startingheight" (30748-current block number <32615>) , "subver" (/Satoshi:0.6.4/), and "version" (60002).


The conf file should contain-

addnode=92.5.97.30
addnode=108.95.52.13
addnode=208.93.153.89
addnode=149.210.131.122
addnode=70.112.85.194
addnode=99.254.46.189
addnode=77.190.83.101



http://i44.tinypic.com/am5w7k.png

Thanks,  I've added them to my conf.   Need all the sane nodes we can find.

addnode=92.5.97.30
addnode=108.95.52.13
addnode=208.93.153.89
addnode=149.210.131.122
addnode=70.112.85.194
addnode=99.254.46.189
addnode=77.190.83.101

I can no longer connect to gamecoin network with any wallet. Not with previous settings, not with new added nodes..

This node is up and accepting connections ...

76.95.191.10

Unfortunately adding this node didn't help at all. I have linux and windows wallet, none of them is able to connect. My last downloaded block was 33382.

odd,  I'm experiencing no problems here.

Thanks for your help. Hopefully problem will somehow fix itself in near future. I want more of these cheap coins :)

Did your problem get resolved?

Just a little FYI for those that download the wallet and try to mine for themselves. The wallet sync issue is not real.

http://gme.p2pool.nl/chain/Gamecoins  go boom, shows <class '_mysql_exceptions.OperationalError'> etc etc

any other gamecoin explorers?

Here is a screenshot of a recent cached page. Hope this helps until problem is resolved.


http://i43.tinypic.com/2r6ljbt.jpg

You can use this one that I just set up:

http://gmeblockexplorer.is-very-good.org/block_crawler.php

It's not as good as tyrion's block explorer but it's better than nothing.  ;)

Thanks, it is always nice to have a back-up.

tyrion70's blog which is linked in the first post in order to download the Windows QT wallet is currently displaying the following:


If anyone needs the Windows QT Wallet, here is a mirror of the archive:

https://apps.memopal.com/e/GLF669QS

Nice easy 0.00328474 difficulty as I type this. ;)

Or you can use this direct link that still works.

http://p2pool.nl/downloads/gamecoin.win32.20130605.rar (http://p2pool.nl/downloads/gamecoin.win32.20130605.rar)

Both explorers do not work

Probably because there isn't much hype or support left for this coin. Yes the developers are online from time to time, but I think that this coin has seen better days. I sent a PM, last week, to jayo but no response.

I take it you are the 1 other person besides myself that is still keeping this coin alive.

I still have a CPU pointed at GME.

With difficulty at 0.00816922, I'm getting a few blocks per hour.

any of you guys interested in a block explorer, web wallet or pool for gamecoin preferably p2pool

We are interested in continued support. If you can provide a block explorer that is going to stay up, then yes, please.

There is/was a p2pool set up http://gme.p2pool.nl/stats/ (http://gme.p2pool.nl/stats/), but at this low difficulty it is unnecessary. Besides it is down for now along with their main explorers.

yeah i wouldnt mind, ive got a few block explorers and p2pool setup anyways. Ill hopefully have a block explorer up today

+1

This coin has a cool concept, we just need someone to take over this project. If someone can lift this project up, I'm willing to start promoting it and so on, but now it seems a bit pointless

The concept behind this coin is one that may take longer than most miners are willing to hold out for. It has been said numerous times by many others in this thread.

Patience is the key to building great relationships. Craftcoin is a good example of a direction this coin could take, provided we can find the right "game" for Gamecoin.

Though if you are following Craftcoin right now you can see that it had a great plan and seemed to be going well, but alas the big pump and dump miners came along and ruined the difficulty and it is in a similar boat as BTE; high difficulty and no hashing. At the peak of the hash Craftcoin saw 1.5 Gh/s now it is at 62 Mh/s and falling.

For a coin to progress it needs more than just community support, it needs a good set of parameters that will withstand difficulty swings, 51% attacks, etc.

i have numerous casino type games which currently accept virtual cash (play money) now if anyone here is able to modify these to accept payments from gamecoin network, the coin might do better, If anyone's interested in helping me out with the project feel free to pm me

If there is interest i will set up a fund to pay for an external developer to set it up to accpet these payments as i may not have the time

How many blocks did you loose?

I stopped mining this coin last night but I see the difficulty is at .027 which is higher than when I left.  Someone turned some power towards it.

http://gmeblockexplorer.is-very-good.org/block_crawler.php still working. Thanks Petr1fied  :D

Some information in this explorer is incorrect. Block numbers 1-6634 were valued at 200 GME each for a total of 1,326,800 coins. Blocks 6635-46042 are valued at 1000 GME each for a total of 39,408,000. These blocks together add to a total outstanding of 40,734,800 as of block #46042.

Is anyone still supporting this coin besides the miners? If so, what is the progress on this coin, did we find a game that wishes to support this coin?

I vote for this coin to be put on an exchange, now more than ever!

²

and me

I say that we take this task on ourselves to promote the trading or exchanging of this coin.
https://www.coins-e.com/ (https://www.coins-e.com/)
or perhaps
https://www.cryptsy.com/ (https://www.cryptsy.com/)

Looks like someone started mining again  ;D