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UPD #1 ( 4-SEP-2017 ) : Presale Early bird announcement 86% bonus / 30 ETH minimum

UPD #2 ( 7-SEP-2017 ) : Announcement regarding Bitcointalk bounty program (https://medium.com/@privatix/privatix-bitcointalk-bounty-campaign-announcement-74f720caa280)

UPD #3 ( 9-SEP-2017 ) : White paper and Summary Translation (https://medium.com/privatix/white-paper-and-summary-translation-a4ee0c1e631d)

UPD #4 ( 15-SEP-2017 ) : Success: Privatix Presale ends after 3 minutes with USD ~470,000 raised ( ~1610 ETH ) (https://medium.com/privatix/success-privatix-presale-ends-after-3-minutes-with-usd-470-000-raised-1610-eth-df02386a9715)



UPDATE 10-10-2017 TOKEN SALE and ICO THREAD HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2254209)

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Hello!
Is bounty will be available later?
1) How can determine a county of VPN? If person who can share a bandwidth, lives in Germany for example. Does it mean that country of VPN will be the Germany?
2) Is an exit address of vpn an address of agent?

i will translation for Vietnamese.  :D

https://www.coindesk.com/ico-oversight-israeli-regulators-form-token-sale-study-committee/ (https://www.coindesk.com/ico-oversight-israeli-regulators-form-token-sale-study-committee/)

The CEO should get his books in order before getting his ass in jail if he is an Israeli citizen

hi, before asking, i want you to know i'm neutral for censor about content or website

i want to know, will you one day work together wih government? you know, if someone or something that ban in a country there is a reason behind it...
and also if someone buy my internet broadband and someone use it to do something illegal in another "BIG" country, will i get trouble??


you know, this big country have something great.. someone called it Octopus  :-[

if we talk about privacy, i'm on it

1) New bounty thread here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2139137
2) YES
3) YES

We dont plan to work with the government, we work with the users.


OAE for example , Viber and Whatsapp banned , in Turkey for example or some asia countries PORNO banned
VPN market is growing and we give  just one more tool on the blockchain

Of course, we are thinking about this, we will develop a software package for the protection of agents  from cybercriminals
Also read Whitepaper about legal protection

10.​ ​Additional​ ​information 62
10.1 Legal protection framework for exit nodes owners 62



I want you to understand that we are using an already working business model adapted for blockchain
And we will hire the best lawyers and legal council to solve similar issues

I know the purpose of this project is to make it easier for internet users to buy the broadband they want, but 100% decentralization and autonomous on the blockchain will greatly affect the rules in every country, is it okay?

VON network?I don't think create the VPN software needs a lots of money and need a ICO
I think the blockchian network need the community to develop,but not need money

Hi team, reserved for Japanese translation.

Thank you for your reply.
But you should understand if client wants to make bad things then agent has potential risks because agent IP is the last address in this chain.
For example, a client wants to make a spam. He rents a bandwidth from an agent. And then it turns out that in fact, the agent makes a spam.

Your question is not clear , what rules are you talking about ?
Privatix Network is a conceptual new solution that will benefit ordinary internet users, developers, and online businesses. We will reduce costs and margins on the VPN consumer market, eliminate the middleman and enable people to share (and profit from sharing) their spare broadband connection. We will provide a new horizon for developers to build awesome apps and services on the basis of this network, e.g. CDN, business intelligence proxy tools, anti-censorship SDKs for apps, etc. The wealth of potential applications is only limited by imagination.
Our​ ​goal​ is to show a possibility to create a new kind of products and services based on the Network capabilities which will transform a number of markets like VPN, CDN, cyber security and encryption or even change the landscape of application monetization market.





While you're thinking , we put in actual work . Your thinking is not correct . We have actual experience in creating a centralized VPN services. To achieve this we had to work 2 years with 10 people in our team and spend $700k. In order to create a decentralized network we will need more specialists, more time and it costs money . Our current profits cover people salaries , server costs and leave some margins to live off , but in order to create a large and successful project on Blockchain we need serious investments.






1) Agent software will have limited SMTP, connection rate limit and blacklist with sensetive to fraud
2) Agent will have option, which will enable proxy/tunnel only for really blocked sites (like wikipedia, etc), but in this case, agent will have less fee
3) Legal protection framework for exit nodes owners (read Whitepaper) page 62

you are welcome

I think this is ag good project with  a small amount of coins

from the ico price,the capital is more than 100000 eth!
create the VPN software needs so much money?
I agree usechain

"I think the blockchian network need the community to develop,but not need money "

this seems to be pretty interesting. Are there other projects trying to solve the same problem at the moment?

i can't wait to try using the app
but i think it will be q3-q4 2018, still a long time to wait
"consumer VPN based on DPI-free VPN protocol"
is it really free app?

your method is one step ahead compare with today premium VPN app sir
will try to support with bounty this time

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and follow FB rule
Bitcointalk - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2139137.0
website https://privatix.io/

Hi dear
I reserved Russian translation
but made a mistake in registration form

I wrote  my previos  works of ANN. Thread Link.   Bounty Thread Link.   Whitepaper.   Website

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can you change.

and would you like to inform  how much time I have to finish these translations

Coins in exchange of Bandwidth .... Quite interesting concept. Watching this Thread for more updates  :)

hi devs
Nice to join your team

Bitcointalk - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2139137.0
website https://privatix.io/

Howis it possible for a person living in 3rd world country to buy broadband from a developed country user?Doesnt it require similar hardware and infrastructure for both ?

Privatix is looking great. Hope the dev team is serious.

How it is better then Mysterium?

We have russian translation already

Ok, am really watching this one. The team behind it seems legit.

Well, consider creating your own free project similar to ours right now, and write the results here, please. You don’t quite understand what you are talking about, you have no experience in doing business and you have not grasp the idea of our solution. All of these costs money and consumes much time. You seem not to have read our Whitepaper. We are not creating just another one VPN service; instead, we are developing a marketplace that includes CDN, proxy/socks market and SDK for developers, with some other functionalities to be added in the process. Again, VPN service is just ONE of many products based on our network. Our plans are more global than you think of them.

We have thought over all possible scenarios. After the pre-ICO, we are going to hire best of the best employees, which would take us 2 to 3 months (we know it by experience), since there is only one or two excellent experts per 50 applicants. We will need a new office for the employees, and we are going to take it on lease, instead of buying it. All the funds are going to be injected only into company needs, and the company founders will receive a bare salary (no bonuses, benefits, and etc.). Account statements and expenditure reports will be provided on a regular basis. We hope to get support of the community. Thank you for the interest to our company!


Our project and idea are unique. Some ideas are “patent pending” at USPTO.



Development and testing efforts take time. Nevertheless, do not doubt our capabilities as we have vast experience in operating online project for over 15 years. We are able to build business processes and create a truly great product. To bypass DPI, we are going to have a separate project group with Chinese testers.
VPN will be free for “peer” users if they have a positive traffic balance. We are open for any cooperation and any suggestions from you! Thank you!


I regret to say but Mysterium is yet another scam project made by people who have never created either a centralized VPN service or any other successful business project. Six months after their ICO, all they do is publish a photo featuring three guys thinking over a project, and this is just funny. Given the funds they raised in ICO, they should have engaged 20-30 best IT experts. Do not spend your time on that project and sell their tokens.

We have worked in the Internet Privacy field for 13 years before announcing the Privatix Network project. We have a fully functional centralized VPN (privatix.com) which is accessible for everyone at no cost.
 
As I said above, we have a comprehensive and global project with many features. Our network will be a basis for many other products and businesses. Watch our YouTube video for more details.





If you mean:
How can I use a 10GB bandwidth as an agent if I live in the USA and have only 1MB?  Unfortunately, you can use only 1MB of your bandwidth due to limitations.
How can I connect to a US agent if I live in any other country? A big part of our project is aimed at making it possible to bypass local censorships.

Intriguing, how many coins are you aiming to sell?

mysterium

Depends on community, the total supply is 10M PRIX and fixed


these projects are completely different

this good projec ,,make all easy in internet with vpn

When Will I be able to sell my Bandwidth ? Any ETA or Roadmap for the same ?
Also will there be a Testing Phase ... If Yes, Bounty for Testers ?

there is page 1, you read on the main page all available, from project, mission, and everything including bounty, at least you go back to page 1 available bounty there ;)

Join twitter and facebook campaign. This another great project and another promising project hoping that it will be successful. Good luck devs and good luck to all participants. Wish you all the best. Cheers for the coming success of this project.

French ANN thread translation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2157467.msg21590637#msg21590637 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2157467.msg21590637#msg21590637)

Hey guys, this sounds really interesting and I realy would love to be part of the presale!

But as I'm in the security business, I've some questions here:

- What does the Client do if the Agent switches off or doesn't deliver the full time/bandwith to the Client which has already paid for it? So for example if I've paid for 1D/10GB and the Agent goes offline after 1-2h!?
- How do you measure the bandwith consumed by the Client/delivered by the Agent? How do they negotiate with each other if the Client for examle says: "Hey I've still 1 GB left" and the Agent reports 0 traffic left!?
- If I've only PRIV Tokens, how can I pay an Agent without having ETH within the same wallet to pay the GAS needed for the transfer?
- How do I announce/request an Agent if I've no ETH within my wallet?
- What do you do if the ETH backlock is at high load? So requesting a new Agent from a Client could take 20-30 Mins? Depending on the GAS-Price?
- What does the Client do if an Agent doesn't deliver? So for example if your testnode is detected and the Agent grants it access to the net, but not to a regular connecting Client?
- When will the testnode client be converted into a smart contract and how should it test the Agents?
- Could you link us the patent request? Cause I think it's a major thing to see what's patented and what's not ... Cause, as already mentioned, there are already some coins/whitepapers on the market (eg. Mysterim & TorCoin)! So for a big investor it's quite interesting to know what's included in the patent!!

THX a lot for your upcoming answers and your great looking product!

I liked your project initially but I saw your post about Mysterium, which I don't think is ethical.

You publicly and explicitly call them a scam as a competitor. You have to prove your accusation.

I saw this question somewhere. Can you please give us the link in USPTO for your application. I tried to search privatix in USPTO and it shows zero results.

In fact, you can learn from the deeponion bounty activities, all the friends around know this project, the real is to attract a community followers

I'd love to learn more about your provisional patent application.

Here is a CEO of Privatix.

You right, some misunderstanding.

We frequently spammed with too many scam projects in our communications channels, all they start from words - " Why you different from........".

I apologize for my team member mistake.

We know Mysterium, and we definitely can't say for sure that is a scam.

Moreover, I wish them to succeed.

I believe the competition is always good.

I will release it on medium today

Provisional patent applications is not in public domain. It can be searched in specific cases only.
You made a search in USPTO patents applications, but not provisional.
We have application confirmation. I will release medium blogpost today about it, please follow .

I am eager to know this answers too, specially this:

Hi, please check this post https://medium.com/privatix/provisional-patent-explanation-ea6a21747979

Doesn't seem we get any answer on this ... Seems to be the next SCAM project here... Rip some ETH and then dive into the underground ...
The Whitepaper is not worth the download, sorry to say so! It's not a Whitepaper, it's more like a "would be great to have" paper without any technical background


Even your linked pat request on Medium sounds more like a joke ... Post the full paper please and not just the pat request (https://dxw4crzwfgmzw.cloudfront.net/site/electronic-acknowledgement-provisional-patent-application.pdf)

I believe thats a better approach. I was also kinda dissapointed on the statement as I truely believe in internet privacy. Its our basic right. I invested in Myst and Ill invest in Privatix. Wish you guys all the best.

1. You asked some very good questions. Most of them are rather technical and have several potential solutions. The dev team will handle each one at a time once they get to it. None of these are critical, meaning that their specific solution is not essential for continuing the initial development of the project. They will be solved mostly in the later stages of development next year, we are going to take into account feedback from users and betta testers as well, to make sure we choose the best strategies. So we do not want to initially pick a solution which may prove suboptimal later.   Please see the roadmap part of the white paper for details. Concerning planned solutions for some of these I'll try to get feedback from the dev team and publish later (most likely via medium)

As with all the other ICOs we don't have every little detail figured out yet, and do not pretend to, but we appreciate the interest and feedback from the community and happy to see people take a deeper interest into how this will be implemented. We will definately incorporate more feedback from our users into improving the products.
The main difference between Privatix and other such ICO projects, however, is that we already have a well established VPN service at privatix.com, popular apps with hundreds of thousands of users and a team that has proven their talent at creating quality products on a substantial scale.

You will see also that Privatix do not post a lot of updates, interviews or  self promotional articles as is common in the ICO space, and our team is mostly built from engeneers, programmers, and people that have experience in developing and bringing to market scalable solutions, and this is becuase we are passionate about creating high quality products for the community, and that is what we choose to focus on.
We are not looking to attract speculative investors and traders, we are confident that serious contributors will take the time to research our team, projects and plans and decide to join because they believe in what we are doing and want to be a part of the blockchain based VPN revolution that will bring us all one major step closer to real internet freedom and privacy.


2.  Please read here (https://www.smartuplegal.com/learn-center/how-can-i-prove-i-am-patent-pending-for-a-provisional-patent/) about provisional patents and how they work
A provisional patent is confidential, unlike the regular patent. And is only given for one year, during the initial development phase, so the team can protect their rights. The application record and official UPSTO notice (which is received later) serve as a legal proof of provisional patent.

The profile of Andrew Beilyk should be Mobile apps developer with broad experience on android platform. While on the OP, the profile of Yaroslav has been repeated for Andrew.

thanks, fixed now

We like criticism, but not unfounded accusations )

1) Technical part available in WP
2) Privatix already have centralized VPN service with more than 750K users - https://privatix.com
3) I'am sure you just need to learn more about us and join our community

Mysterium vs Privatix - a short comparison
https://medium.com/privatix/privatix-vs-mysterium-5b40a0904d94

This is nice article to read about your concept and what approach you have in that post Privatix looking much advanced and have good solution for VPN. That part of the article looks really interesting you already have huge numbers of into your network that is plus point of this this project.

Hindi ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2164082.0

Edit: Sorry, I did not know the bounty has been cancelled as the thread was still active. This means that my work has been wasted  :(

Maybe not, read this:

https://medium.com/privatix/privatix-bitcointalk-bounty-campaign-announcement-74f720caa280

1) Sorry Guys but first of all, all my questions are not answered in your WP, so I would love that you read your own WP AND my questions before writing something like that! So please either update your WP or answer my questions directly, as those as vital for such a concept!

2) A Blockchain project is something total different compared to a monolithic client server architecture, this answer clearly points out, that you've no insight into how a decentralized P2P Network works! If I've a Server which is under my control (or at the control of the business holder), for sure I'm able to measure traffic, check payments and stuff like that as I'm the admin/developer and I'm able to deliver correct information to my backend for accounting and stuff like that, but on a P2P Network, each Member is able to cheat on the system! And believe me, if it comes to money (or tokens) users will do so! So please, get back to my questions ;)

3) I would love to do that, therefore I've asked a bunch of questions, which are just ignored! So again, please just answer my questions instead of pointing to your WP which doesn't answer just a single one of those!

1. You said, there is no Technical part described in WP, so I've pointed you to check it again. I did not say that your questions answered in WP. But apparently I did not explained clear enough, if you did not understand it for sure.


2. Absolutely. We know it very well and understand it.
But this answer ( about the team and previous record) was given in response to your accusations that we are scammers.


3. Your questions is not ignored. We can not respond instantly to dozens of specific technical questions from people at the same time.
I just waiting to CTO who need to approve the answers. Most of them have several potential solutions and we just can't cover everything in WP. 

I would participate if the alpha version is ready now. A whitepaper is just not convincing enough.

You should announce about cancelled the bounty in here.. Make some post about it in here. cause you can see some people in here just keep bumping your bounty thread without knowing the bounty has been cancelled..

I've made an announcement via all available communication channels

Im considering taking part in the pre ico because i really like this idea. But i still have one question:

Within your roadmap you are stating that all current projects will be either transfered into third-party management, preserved or sold. What are the odds for each of this cases?

Im asking, cause i see the current projects with the existing customer base as huge leverage for privatix.io and all investors.

A User does not pay for 1D/10 GB to a specific Agent; instead the payment goes to the system in general. Any Agent is able to withdraw funds only after confirmation, which will be performed in two ways:
1)Using blockchain if there are data transfer methods with low fees or no fees at all (plasma, whisper, lighting)
2)By sending a signed e-check that features details on the traffic/time spent. Both the Agent and Contract who will pay out funds to the Agent based on the e-check (state channel), will be able to verify those details.




A User pays for the actually consumed bandwidth. There is the possibility of cheating an Agent but the latter can switch off the connection at any time.




PRIX,not PRIV. You will need some ETH for GAS but we will try to minimize expenses.




Via the Whisper only.




We believe in a further development of the Ethereum network; otherwise, our project as well as other projects are pointless.




The Client will request a new subscription.




Please rephrase your question,  why should it test the Client and know anything about the Client?




Please check this post https://medium.com/privatix/provisional-patent-explanation-ea6a21747979

You are right, the current VPN clients and our project with a lot of niche traffic can leverage the network once it is deployed.

I will write a blog post in about a few days. The most reliable way is to use third party for running the service until we get it developed.
 
Once it’s done - we will transfer it back  in order to engage the users ( at that time the user base will also grow ) .

please answer here, if you are able to provide some technically good details, i think it's also of your benefit, since you reach probably new users, who all are interested in privacy

i will start with some more questions:
- why are you organised as a legal company? why is it incorporated in cyprus? who are the shareholders?
- why is your whitepaper paper "patent pending"?
- will your protocol and software be open sourced or closed?
- why do you exclude u.s. citizens from the token sale? would it be considered a security in u.s. law? what about china after their ico "ban"?
- you claim to be cheaper than usual vpns, all the payments will be made only in PRIX only and you promise your investors huge gains since you expect huge demand and so price surges. isn't that a conflict of interests?
- you claim 17% of all tokens for founders, developers and advisors. why do you need that much?
- do you use some kind of onion routing like tor/i2p or just one hop like a vpn/proxy?
- will all nodes be exit nodes or can you choose just to relay internal traffic like in tor?
- how do you ensure, that an exit node is not getting in trouble due to malicious behaviour of a "client"? are clients anonymous or must they provide some sort of verification and will they be monitored? you claim to develop a "legal framework for exit nodes"... will you cover dozens of countries? laws know borders...
- you claim to be able to disable torrenting if a user does not want to accept that. how about hacking, email spam, forum/blog spam and similar?
- how do you ensure, exit nodes do not act malicious for phishing, logging or even man in the middle attacks against your clients?
- will all kinds of protocols be available or restricted?
- what encryption do you intend to use for the traffic?

would love to get these questions sorted out!

Sounds good, would favour this option as well :)

Thanks for the answer, looking forward for the blog post.

Good concept. I have already invested in another VPN project. There is a difference in minimum contribution for pre-ICO on your website and Ann thread here. Minimum contribution on your website for pre-ICO is 0.63 ETH while on Ann thread here is 0.01 ETH. Is the minimum contribution changed for pre-ICO?

today on Slack


Hope this will help you, but I did not find any change of minimum contribution

the total supply is limited, only 10.000.000 and this project has a good prospect. so, i'm sure this token can has high value.

Hello! We added your Token to ICO Drops Calendar
Presale https://icodrops.com/pre/privatix-pre-sale/
Main Event https://icodrops.com/privatix/

You need to update some info first

check the Chinese whitepaper link,it's English but not Chinese .

Best wishes for PRIVATIX.To give real service, you must add something which cannot be bought or measured with money, and that is sincerity and integrity.

I can't wait to try it.
Privatix make my old dream come true.
Hope you make it quickly.
I want to get airdrop and buy some token when ico.

Tried signing up for the whitelist multiple times but no email was sent to me. Can I still reserve a spot for the 40% bonus?

There is no more bounty campaigns

What is your presale public address?

interesting project for us to see the progress of the project because I see the total token of this project is only 10 million so I think the price of the token will be expensive

Thank you for replying.I don t mean smart contract.I want to see your address to confirm that you actually had a sucessful presale

Yes, this was the smart contract address
https://etherscan.io/address/0x0961375ed779Fe16435D5D430Da00A5bAC527e46

I like the idea of this token, but somebody need to explain how one will not be blacklisted using your service. Because the company selling you broadband also are on the look out. They want to maximize profit too.

Looks good and congratulation to you for a successful presale.I hope I get some PRIV during ICO as I missed the presale

Hi! I want to participate in bounty campaigns. How to participate?

Dear friends, digrate.com (http://digrate.com) made new report, this time about Privatix.

We ranked Privatix as "B2". Low development potential, highly speculative investments.
More details in our report: http://digrate.com/uploads/ico_report/PRIVATIXENG.pdf

Hello!
Interesting project!
Two questions.
1. How much is collected during the presale?
2. If the bounty?
Thank you!

Project has a great potential and I really like the idea of a p2p vpn network with the possibility of selling and buying bandwidth. In fact the pre ico was closed successfully in 3 minutes that is shocking! Great job dev keep it up

I worked with you in bounty twitter. I followed the rules and i sent my report as you asked. Are you going to pay me? When?

Interesting project, it's not new idea, but I think it has potential! VPN today is very topical question for many people, so I wish you good luck) So many interesting projects develops nowdays, it's really cool)

This is definitely a project I can get behind. The devs are legit, base product already exists, how is there not more hype on this project? Especially compared to MYST, which is pretty much a scam imo.

This is one of the rare crypto projects that I am very interested in using as well. I will be an investor and customer.

Thank you!=)
Good luck!

Interesting project. Tell me how you protect your users from hacker attacks.

If a hacker gets access to the Internet through one of your users, then the user will be responsible for the actions of the hacker.

will there be another bounty started the company? or the CEO chose an ordinary advertising company, Agency for advertising and it may become a trend.

Great project here, i have participated in the 40% bonus :)

With an already proven track record in the VPN buisness, this is a no brainer IMHO.  Also looking forward to using your VPN service in the near future.


Regards

it's funny project,sell the VPN with the high price,and hold a ICO to collect money.
it's impossible to add the Blockchain technology in VPN
good luck for the investor,join a fake blockchain project

What is the basis of your assumption?
As I understand from white paper, the block is needed only for the reward of those who provided traffic.
What's wrong?

If am not mistake, Mysterium got a shitload of money to create an identical platform. The entire team's profile is verifiable. The CTO seems like a monster behind the keys. This is not an endorsement by any means. Please do a thorough research before investing. Just saying your post is lacking.

soft cap already collected, so the project has already taken place. gathering time is still there see how much is collected and how it will implement plans...

Why did you guys decided not to have bounty?

When does it launch in exchanges?

i will join dev

Only found out about your project and wanted to participate. But the starting bonus was 40%, it's too much to buy tokens now ...

I will follow closely

How do I get free PRIX?

Very interesting project i will keep my eye on it. Good team, nice WP and website. Waiting something new from team.
Regards.

Info about bounty here https://medium.com/privatix/privatix-bitcointalk-bounty-campaign-announcement-74f720caa280

Only by sharing your bandwidth once the product will be developed

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The project is doing its job well. I would love to participate and contribute to your project because your project is very special to me. I hope to get updates on the project

http://image.ibb.co/cGXoSb/privatix1.jpg

Privatix: bandwidth with own cryptoeconomy (http://www.crypto-economy.net/privatix-bandwidth-with-own-cryptoeconomy/?lang=en)

such a great project! Also the fact that unsold tokens going to be burned makes this even better :)

with the amount of unsold tokens even the 100 tokens/ETH increase huge in value!

Following u on the Cointelegraph: https://cointelegraph.com/ico-calendar/privatix (https://cointelegraph.com/ico-calendar/privatix)

Здpaвcтвyйтe! Кoгдa и нa кaкиx биpжax нaчнyт тopгoвaтьcя мoнeты PRIX???????

Guys,

ANY info about when/where/what Exchange we can trade our PRIX ?

Thanks!

You can trade PRIX in etherdelta: https://etherdelta.com/#PRIX-ETH

hey dev i want to ask about bounty, why do you make a bounty thread and you guys do not pay it?
why only the media bounty who get paid, we've followed the rules made by the team, should we get paid from prix team

I saw yesterday somewhere in the Scam Accusations Section a thread about Privatix and the bounty issue. I dont really know.

but this coin already trade now in ED, and price very nice for now, so i think this project success and bounty hunter will get payment

guys, this thread is not active, please follow new one

good company and good coin.
 have a lot potential for 2018.
Telegram group is very active and team reply every question very profesionel.
Some people will tell his frust about price or bounty program, but longtherm is this a winner coin.

I see forward with team and community.