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It was no late that I was informed by my friend that my account got red trust for cheating campaign with alts.
Here what I found -


Someone used my username and applied in the campaign.
I have no knowledge about the owner of the account, nor I had any previous chat with him.
I am ready to give every possible test to determine that I am not attached with this account.
Site admins can check IPs of both account or anyone can track posting habits or blockchain.
Any thoughts on how can I get rid of this trouble. If done intentionally then it is very harmful for forum.

;D

Now what's that. Is it some joke going? Should I make account and post application from your name. That was non-sense.

1) This does not necessarily have to be intentional.
2) This could be intentional.
3) This could be a correct connection.

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It shouldn't surprise you if (2) was the case, as this happens on a everyday basis on Bitcointalk (take a look at my untrusted ratings). That said, you should talk to yahoo and attempt to clear it up.

Yeah, it maybe the case but I am not popular on forum like you that someone will try ruining my account. I haven't even given someone trust till date.
What I feel he rushed to apply in campaign and copied my application as it was on first page in the last, edited it and posted but forgot to change the name. I think it is more likely to be the (1).
Already contacted to Yahoo. Waiting for his reply.

I find it all very weird to say the least. If it was someone copy/pasting your application why would he choose you? Why would he go halfway down page 1 and apply to a campaign I had already posted was full 10 pages later?

As Lauda said, it could be a mistake, although I find it unlikely. It could be someone attempting to fuck you over. Just looks funny as fuck to me. I remember you applying to a campaign and putting Webtricks name as your btctalk username just a few weeks ago.

And you really think if I enrolled my account in the campaign on first day, first page then I will wait for 2 days and post application from another account after campaign get closed!! I would not be so dumb in that case.


That was the other case. I hope Webtricks cleared that to you.

Just a concerned citizen here.

I think these links can help for clarification.

" Show general statistics for this member "
bouren = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=889763;sa=statPanel
Local = India

6Asmodeus6 = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1053356;sa=statPanel
Local = Türkçe (Turkish)


https://i.imgur.com/apb73Oc.png

https://i.imgur.com/kOQ1x0t.png

Don't forget to write my BTC address too.


Not really good proof, Indian local is in English.
Also bouren posted several times in Turkish local board.

etc.

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I am curious why 6Asmodeus6 didn't say a single word about this.

Now bouren answer this. LOL! I think your negative trust rating is reliable.

Nice catch marlboroza!

What so catchy in that. I am Indian. I didn't want to start from new account so I bought an account with some potential to gain up ranking quickly. Nothing wrong in that I guess as far as I don't cheat on forum.
But see here, I am accused for it today due to mistake/bad intention of some moron.

Quoted for the record.

Tagged.

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The question remains whether the other account is actually an alt. If so, I will have to tag him as well.

Really! I don't think buying account deserves red trust in any way until it found scamming, spamming or account farming. You wrote all three in feedback but I am not doing any of them.
If buying account directly links to red trust then why it is still allowed on forum? I bought account just to rank up easily otherwise I built account all wisely and of my own.
And as far as the other account is concerned, I still isn't able to understand what to do. I know I am not guilty but can't do anything in that. This was such a wrong day for me.

Thats not just how this forum works. Account sales are highly discourages as many, many (too many to say or count) people have been scammed as a result of this. People gain faulty trust in an account of a higher rank only to then be scammed later on. A good example of this that I am recently aware of is the user Wizardee and Hashforce101 (Both offering campaign management services with bought accounts to possibly scam ICOs of their funds.)

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Just build up a new account, don't buy another one or the same thing will happen.

Yes, really.

It does not matter what you think, but what the user leaving the feedback thinks, which is the whole point of the trust system. As an example, KWH's rating, which is neutral, is about what KWH thinks not what bouren thinks about it. I also have not stated that you've done any of the latter. Those actions is what is usually leads to and you can confirm that with both anecdotal and statistical evidence.

If scamming users directly links to red trust, then why it it still allowed on the forum? ::)

That is compleatly being me stupid and forgetting to change the name.I was away for a couple days and today I saw the negative trust on my profile.I explained on the thread too I scrolled down to apply and then I remember I didn't copy the application text.He was the last message on first page so I copied his message.I also joined many campaign that is managed by you yahoo and I never cheated.Never sold my account or anything. I just can believe how unlucky I am :(.

@marlboroza I didn't say anything because I didn't see anything untill today.I was interested on an altcoin.They created a discord channel for discussing the coin  and I was active there.Today their dev said he might start a signature campaign and I was like " I signed up for a signature campaign better leave now before causing any trouble for manager " and I saw the negative trust on my profile.I already send a PM to the yahoo I hope he can help me clear the mess I created for him and boaren.

EDIT :

I just sit and check through all of his messages to see any similar time that we post to prove that I'm not him.Not exact but I found very close times.Since English isn't my first language neither him or me can't change our accounts and write in 2 minutes on different topics that have no releation.

https://i.hizliresim.com/pGRvpn.png
https://i.hizliresim.com/kXjZy9.png
https://i.hizliresim.com/a1oPbg.png
https://i.hizliresim.com/ByZoYD.png


Also if you check his stats he only posts on similar times he probably has a job or a day life but since I am a graduated student that has nothing to do I post on almost all times.Being stupid and sleepy should have this much consequences for me and being on the wrong place shouldn't cause so much problem for the OP.

Couple of days?
Your post is 1 day old  ::)
How is that you didn't see your negative rating from DT? I can hardly believe that.
You were active yesterday somewhere around 3 or 4 PM forum time and earlier today as well.
2 minute isn't big deal. You can post from 2 devices with 0 minute gap as well.

To be honest gap between posts is 3 minutes(first) and 11 minutes12 hours(second) and posts are pretty short to take them as a proof.
This is only my opinion.

I didn't sleep for a day and after than as I said I was on Discord channel.I joined there at Tuesday Night .My timezone is UTC+3 It was 2 nights in a row which it's a couple of days for me.I don't know what kind of habits do you have but I don't check my trusts every second since I don't do anything illegal... I edited my OPPORTY Bounty campaign message yesterday but it was kinda early in the morning so either yahoo62278 didn't gave the negative trust yet or I didn't notice it I'm not sure about that.I know 2 minute isn't too much but those are the only messages that I can find.It's pretty hard for people who live in different timezones to post at same time.I showed them so maybe yahoo62278 considers that we are both foreigners who lives in different contries,our first language isn't English and we are not sociopaths who posts on 2 devices with different accounts just to be sure that someone looks at it.

Anyone wanna go full Sherlock mode on a guy's stupid mistake?

Uh, that's nonsense.


Well I've tried to and you might be telling the truth. Might. You made a big mistake and AFAICS, bouren's account is effectively useless even if you settle this the way you want.

bouren, when did you stop using this BTC address - 1H9eNRVcEaALiAsXLKhGQgLd5BTMJ8wVti?

Lauda gave him negative trust for bragging about buying an account.That is his problem but I am FULLY responsible for copying his message and forgetting to change his name.If we look at the results yeah it's a big mistake but if you look at the problem it's just a funny,stupid typo that I forget to change carelessly.I can understand yahooo and everyone who is digging this.There is a lot of scam and alt accounts happening in here but I just want everyone to turn their smoke detector.I made a mistake and burned the toasts, I didn't set the house on fire.

^^
Only reason why i said that I wonder why you are not saying anything is because i saw that you were active in the time we were discussing with bouren.

These are facts:
You applied to signature campaign 1:18 PM (forum time)
Yahoo gave you negative somewhere between 1:18PM and 2:46 PM (forum time)
Bouren created this topic in 2:46PM (forum time)
I posted here at 4:36PM (forum time)and edited post 10 minutes later because i saw you were active.(last active by forum time)

My time is UTC +2 yours is UTC +3 it is only 1 hour so please don't lie to me what date that was and please don't try to make your UTC+3 to look like you are living on Mars.


I am looking times, so what the fuck are you talking about?
https://i.imgur.com/6e3A65n.png
Time when you applied to yahoo's campaign: September 20, 2017, 01:18:24 PM

Why are you lying so much?

I don't know are we on the same page.Am I misunderstanding you or you are having problems with something different.I signed up at yahoo's campaign on September 20 10 PM on my timezone which is night one , I slept and I saw this thing today on night two.A couple of days for me if you are stuck on that world.You are correct that bouren started the thread at 2:46PM so you are also right about yahoo giving the feedback at that time.As I said I may have not noticed while editing either.I'm not lying I just didn't see the fact.You could just simply point out that.I'm a guy who forgot to change the name on application post you shouldn't expect too much from me.

What are the chances you're going to start using your alt if this negative rating never gets removed? Not that's it going to help much since it's brand new despite being over a year old but I still want to know.

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@marlboroza How did you get this button:

https://i.imgur.com/6e3A65n.png

?

I don't have an alt account to use.I'm not going to start a new account since it's too much to bother.I'm not going to buy one since I don't like using something that I don't own.When I see all this storm going around I send a PM to yahooo but he didn't answer it yet.I was just thinking like "lol silly me I forgot to delete the guys name , if I explain to yahooo he will fix it for sure" but everyone is just going content cop on me withouth having a single thing and calling me a liar without knowing a single thing about me.You are on the same campaign and you could be that last message on the first page what would you feel if you were me or OP if this happens to you.It just feels disgusting and not right.

Please try and be honest.


That's not my question and there's really no way we can be certain of either of those claims.


You do realize people have other things to do right? Spamming him with PMs is not going to work, in fact, it's probably going to achieve the opposite.


Of course we're going "content cop" on you, you posted a different username from yours, a username that had already applied for a campaign! So, we do have a "thing". As for being a liar, we don't need to know anything about you, personally, to say that.


Sure, I've thought about it, to the point of wanting to start a topic. All this before it happened to you.

As for being disgusting, it's your fault we're here.

Why do you say try and be honest.This is the most bad part of this comments.Everybody just thinks me as a scammer because I just made a simple mistake.I don't want you to belive me or support me on this topic.Just don't assume things that you are not sure of.I didn't spam yahooo I just send a single PM as I said I tought it was a silly mistake and I was sure that he will fix it since he did it many times when I made mistakes on his signature campaigns he always helped me.I maybe be silly and I may have make mistakes but I'm not a liar.I don't think that mods or anyone from administration doesn't check about this issues so I will wait for yahooo's return.You can check and search all you want and if you find anything related I would glad to answer it for you.Good night and thanks for all your comments.

Can you quote where did you find that address. May be that would remind me.

You said you were few days off. Also difference between your timezone and my timezone is 1 hour.  As I said don't act like you are living on Mars  ::)
I will repeat again - 1 hour! Don't lie you wasn't here because I looked at your forum "last active" time! You were here!
Couple of days?
Don't lie. Please. We are not stupid.
You said you were offline few day so how do you know yahoo gave you negative rating in that time?

You deserve negative for lying as well!

Are you dumb or what? Edited post was few hours before you applied to yahoo's signature campaign and even before he gave you negative.

In my opinion DT should give you negative trust for lying.

I am magician.
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BTW nice catch(few posts up) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg21973537#msg21973537 they should all be negative rated because bouren cheated in signature campaign.How is that address connecting bouren with 6Asmodeus6?

I noticed you sent it 0.0015 BTC almost a month ago from your (going by this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936212.msg19226181#msg19226181))
 3GtnqL7j3Rgih82z62GoknLQPz5xPUnviT (https://blockchain.info/tx/eecb766478b3f6c7fa50e4c56d8640c14f53a07e2ff1f5846494e2171d5ca5a0) address.


Are you not the owner of the asmodeus69 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=780038) account?

I was replying to 6Asmodeus6's post - read again what he said and why I replied.
Have I destroyed your reputation? No.
I didn't post your user name in signature campaign - 6Asmodeus6 did.
I didn't say you bought account - you did.
As coiner_ said, you sent 0.015BTC from your address to address of someone who was caught cheating in signature campaign https://blockchain.info/tx/eecb766478b3f6c7fa50e4c56d8640c14f53a07e2ff1f5846494e2171d5ca5a0 although this is not proof of connection between you and 6Asmodeus6 or addy4u (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=162127), still...
I don't know why are you thanking me.

@marlboroza As I said either there is something wrong in my English that I'm understanding you wrong or I'm writing wrong and you are not getting me.I'm realy tired of saying the same things over and over again to you since you are not getting it.
I'm saying 2 nights you are saying " it's not a couple of days don't lie ".
I'm saying that I said I didn't know when yahooo gave me negative trust UNTILL you point it out that the OP made this post at 2:46 PM so it should be between 1:18PM and 2:46 PM and you are saying "how do you know yahooo gave you negative rating in that time".I'm saying that I did edit my post at OPPORTY campaign and I didn't notice the negative trust ( I didn't know when was the negative trust given in that time so I showed that to you guys to show my last activities since it doesn't appears in my profile when it's edited.It was before negative trust? Great it doesn't serve any purpose other than you calling me a liar for nothing.).
There is a clear misunderstanding between us. I have no intention or nothing to gain arguing over communication problems.Therefore I will not bother myself until you say anything new and explaining.

@Coiner_


This is just getting plain funny.There is like 8 different accounts that contains the word " Asmodeus ". I just wanted to get only "Asmodeus" but since I couldn't I just put numbers at the beginning and at the end.I hope that no one gives neg. trust to that 8 account just because they had the same interest that I have to the Religions. LOL that would be hilarious.

It isn't but it connects him to addy4u.


I gotta say, you figured out where I was going fast, surprisingly fast.


I never checked for accounts with that word, just the last 5 characters of your username and only 2 others popped up - asmodeus69 and Deus... . As for neg'ing those accounts, I wouldn't sleep over the 2+ month old "Brand new"s being neg'ed.

BTW, thanks for education on the meaning and religious background of that word I never thought a word.

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Why are you mentioning that post over and over again? You edited it several hours BEFORE you signed up for yahoo's campaign.

And I will quote you one more time:
And you posted this:
Isn't that 4:18PM in your time zone?
Someone correct me if I am wrong.

As I said before I was later than everyone to see this thread and didn't know when was the negative trust has given so I posted it just to show my recent activies.Thanks to you when you pointed it out that since OP started this thread on a certain time and it was before the negative trust, you are absolutely right like I said it before.It has nothing to do with topic and I'm saying you are right but you are the one bringing that over and over again.

Also how you are mixing that up but no it's not 4:18PM  in my timezone it's 4:18AM. I did the math wrong and I accidently said 10PM I didn't add it I subtract it LOL sorry. You can check it from an online service or if you can "trust" me ( which a lot of people doesn't want to do it in these days ) here :

https://i.hizliresim.com/2E2MdL.png


Also yahoo has answered my PM.He said I may not be him but I am lazy person ( which he is totally right about that all this things happening right now is my fault ) and he wasn't sure if he should reward a lazy person.He said " I'll think about it or modify the rating but I don't think lazy users should be rewarded.".I will wait for that.As I said before I wouldn't mind if anybody call me lazy,idiot,stupid because I deserve it this time but I'm definitly not a liar,scammer or an alt account of somebody.

https://i.imgur.com/wtWTXzV.png

Are you trying to say September 20, 01:18:24 PM forum time is September 21, 04:18 AM in Turkey?

And you wrote your last post(qouted part) in 01:05:53 AM(your local time)?