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I am not sure if anyone used this term before here, but would like to discuss with you guys, when we have great and working opportunities and abilities to travel and use full services using cryptos and Bitcoin only?
So far we can get services, food, museums, etc. only at specific places and countries. It's impossible to travel using only digital coins probably.

So what are your thoughts and future vision about that?

I remember reading an article about traveling only with BTC a year or two ago, so while it massively limits your options, in some countries it is entirely possible. It won't be for a while before you can reach anywhere even remotely near the convenience of using e.g., PayPal to travel, let alone fiat currency.

If you are talking about tourism paid in crypto then I think the sector needs more development. Bitcoin and altcoins are not always accepted everywhere like fiat money and so I think it needs more acceptance. Moreover there are so many poor countries where tourism industry is the important means of earning for people but they are not educated enough to use crypto in any way. Thus I think there is the huge gap between the people using crypto and the people in charge of tourism. There has been some ICOs in hotel booking and flights but still it needs more development.

it is not used now, or it is on small scale only because bitcoin is not yet adopted. you may think it is popular now or it has grown but in reality bitcoin is still too small. with all the big volume and so many people invested it is still a small portion of the population.

and from those people a smaller percentage are spending bitcoin or considering to spend bitcoin.
that is why "crypto-tourism" is not something you hear about.

however this will change as the adoption grows. my personal favorite is the Japanese 2020 games which will attract lots of tourists to Japan which is now bitcoin friendly with lots of merchants. hopefully by then it has grown even bigger and that will cause a bigger move in more merchants around the world accepting bitcoin.

You have to be patient...

Of course when a new technology is coming out, you can't use it anywhere, and you have to wait that it's sprayed before using it fully.

For bitcoin, in some years it'll probably be the case. You can currently already buy houses, rent flat, buy food, and live with it. There are plenty of video on youtube about experiments like "I lived 1 month with bitcoin".

Be patient and all you asked will be possible

Expedia is accepting bitcoin for hotels and flights booking. I like the point about Olympics in Japan, where Bitcoin is spreading pretty fast I think.

Yeah, I know it will take a time for tourism to get used to bitcoin more. But we're early adopters and every discussion starts a new chapter of cryptos.

We all are aware how tourism (domestic and international) can be of big help in improving a local area's economy (though there are side-effects here that have to be controlled). I love the idea of cryptotourism and I think in my estimate this is already happening right now. And the number manifestation of this evolving trend is the many conferences, seminars, expos and gathering of people coming from both within and without the country. I am sure many of us here know what I mean as cryptocurrency events are regularly held every year in different parts of the world under different themes and topics. Another good idea is putting up Cryptocurrency Hub where the technology and all the things related to cryptocurrency can be displayed and the visitors can explore. Don't we have a Bitcoin museum already somewhere?

This is really a very good concept to explore and it can help Bitcoin be more attractive to prospective countries who are thinking of recognizing and legalizing Bitcoin in their respective economies.

At this stage merchant Bitcoin adoption is still very low, globally. You will still need to convert some of your BTC to Fiat to have a good holiday in another country. Bitcoin might give you a little bit extra "pocket money" if you cross some borders with it.

Some countries only allow a limited amount of cash to be brought into their country, so if you need more cash, you could trade locally with people with your bitcoins. ^smile^

If Bitcoin is banned in your country, you could take a Bitcoin holiday in another country, where Bitcoin is not banned. ^smile^

This is the first time I encountered this term. To be honest it is a bright idea. However, we should consider the fact that not everyone are willing to be paid by Bitcoins. A lot of coutries do not really know yet Bitcoins and here in my country, I have never encountered a store accepting Bitcoin for payments yet.

Maybe this will be more feasible in the next years or generations to come when Bitcoin becomes more known to everyone. But for now, this will be hard to do.

I've read about traveling using bitcoin, but he does not use bitcoin as a direct payment tool but he contacts some bitcoiner in the country he visits and sells the bitcoin he has to them so he no longer has to redeem the fiat money he has with fiat money in the country he visited

Expedia is unfortunately accepting Bitcoin only in the United States -- or at least they are not accepting Bitcoin in Europe.

In general it seems like it's more easy to buy Bitcoin than to spend Bitcoin. At least Bitcoin ATMs and the likes seem to be more common than brick and mortar stores accepting Bitcoin. And sadly it doesn't look like that's going to change any time soon.

traveling only using coins ..? I think it's possible if bitcoin service is available in a country ,, with the rapid development of bitcoin may now be an international currency ,, I think this is the mission of creating bitcoin

At this stage there's only a few merchant who accept bitcoin, it may be possible if you want to go to some developed country like japan or somewhere in the europe where bitcoin is accepted but if you want to travel to developing country like indonesia maybe, then it's impossible to get full services using cryptos and Bitcoin only.

Cryptotourism- If I to define this, it means that someone is using Bitcoins when travelling abroad either it may be for business or for leisure. Example is when you pay for your hotel and your transportation.

Cryptotourism is a pretty intelligent term which i will like to applaud you for. The use and spending of bitcoin and other bitcoin wherever you tour is a good and interesting idea. In the Netherlands and Sweden i read an article on setting locations and a whole village accepting only digital and virtual currencies for transactions. Visiting this areas will give us more ideas of how the use of btc during tours will look like. I was checking on major holiday destination and realised that, the Hawaii,s Havana, Basque region in Spain, Catalona, Tunis which are major destinations has not fully developed their crypto market hence it will be a while before this dream becomes a reality

Cryptocurrency is already being integrated also into the travel and tourism industry. Japan is planning to accept bitcoin as payment in purchasing airline tickets. I have also seen a coin made for travel and tourism, I think it is called TOA coin, a coin designed for that purpose. But everything in the cryptoworld is just in its beginning state and has not matured yet. Possibly soon we will see cryptocurrency especially bitcoin blooms in tourism industry.

Well we can't say for sure, but I think it's pretty safe to say that we're rather far off. There are countries that have zero Bitcoin presence so you're going to have to exchange your coins for fiat anyway. You would most likely be limited to using Localbitcoins which can be potentially dangerous. I'm sure the last thing you would want to deal with while out travelling would be financial stress.

It's certainly possible though. There's one story floating around here, and he says he just used Localbitcoins. It's a huge hassle in my opinion though. If you're using fiat in the end, then you might as well carry USD instead.

Why to create problems for yourself? Now I do not see the possibility to travel only with bitcoins. It's more of a dream than a reality. in fact, we can't even in the country to use bitcoins. We are constantly forced to use the exchangers. For travel it is better to have a Bank card with dollars on the account.

I read how some people traveled for a short time using only bitcoins. I think now you can do it in the countries where bitcoin spreads and you can make all the necessary purchases.

I think I saw one campaign about it, well I think it is possible if locally arranged tourist spots and vehicles but I doubt the flight payment system around the world will adapt soon.

The stretch of usage of cryptocurrency is almost at ad infinitum and it's almost scary. It can offer new platforms way better than the traditional in a secure and traditional manner. Blockchain is the technology of crypto and there are so much more it can offer. From tourism to enginnering into sharing of services at commercial homes.
I think the term crypto tourism can be put also in how country can use the crypto tech or the blockchain tech and what services are in that country that are basing in blockchain and how people will admire this technology.

I think it will only be applicable to countries widely accepting bitcoin which I really think is a very advanced country in terms of technology and economical aspects to have invested in bitcoins needs a big caital especially in running such businesses.
I think this kind of countries will definitely be a great influence in bitcoin industry.
Good idea by the way.. I have already read about someone here in this forum who traveled with bitcoins only.  Really inspiring .

Look at it the way of credit cards. You can pretty much go everywhere with only your card now (and have so the last 20 years), still some places you will need cash. But an atm might not be far away, so you can get those cash.

I believe it will (eventually) be the same with c-coins, might take 20 years tho.

If you have Bitcoin debit card then it's possible because it's accepted everywhere but otherwise I'm not so sure. I live in a country where more and more tourists are coming each year but there are just few merchants that accept Bitcoin. Younger tourists often ask about Bitcoin ATMs but there are only few of them also so.I don't think we are cryptocurrency tourist friendly yet.

Yes it will be huge in the future.But when you see it now, it is a drop in the ocean.It has huge potential to grow its market cap to some trillion dollars.It will be used in the place  of fiat and some digital currencies like paytm in India.Just in few years it will reach 100000$ and it will definitely cross that mark and reach even more.

Wouldn't it make sense that everything re: cryptocurrency is evolving at this early stage? I would guess things are only going to keep developing faster as cryptocurrency starts becoming more generally accepted.

If you want to use your bitcoins that way I think the best place for that will be Japan, there are many business accepting bitcoin and you can use it almost everywhere, you can rent a room with it and buy food, but eventually this is going to become so common that you will be able to use your bitcoin almost everywhere.

i made a topic about this a while back: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1906607.0
talking about bitcoin and tourism but mostly focused on Japan mostly because Japan is the 4th country with the most tourists every year (~24 million in 2016) and they have adopted bitcoin as a legal way of payment and shops are already adding bitcoin payments. on top of it there is going to be Olympics there too.
things will be pretty interesting in action in my opinion, when tourists see bitcoin's potential and see how easy and safe it would be to carry bitcoin around and spend that.

I think it is not yet possible because of the limitations of the merchants who will accept digital money as payment. Many people or business owners perhaps do not know about digital currencies yet and even if some do, they still hesitate because of the volatility of it making them worry if ever when they accept and they would end up losing because their business is still calculated base on fiat and not in bitcoin. You can travel with digital coins but you need to find someone who can exchange it for fiat in some place so that you can purchase something.

The best idea still would be finding some services in a specific country or region that could convert bitcoin to fiat money. Or before travelling you could just convert the bitcoin into dollar and surely i think all countries has dollar exchange services in some prestigious malls. Possible also that you could you own currency and find if the country supports the kind of currency you have if their is a possible convertion to your currency and the country you would visit.

nobody cares about ICOs bro.
everyone who ever looks at any ICO they see profit. in other words all they are thinking is how much money they can make from them. and by "they" I mean both users/investors and developers.
none of these ICOs ever come to anything. they are just names and empty words.
why do you think they are banned in so many different countries?

I knew some people who went to the so-called "Crypto Valley" near Zug (Switzerland) purposely because this geographic zone seems to be very crypto-friendly. Thus I think other areas in the world could follow Zug example and find a way to increase tourism in their countries.

That's true. It will be a problem for the merchants to accept BTC because they may incur a loss when the price goes down. The price of bitcoin fluctuates too frequently, so this would be problematic on the part of the merchant.

However, it would be convenient for a traveller if they had the option to pay with BTC. There won't be the hassle of having to convert the prices mentally everything you buy before you make a purchase so as to make a comparison with your own local currency.

after seeing this problem in tourism sectors maybe there is developer create innovation to solve this case in the next moment.
i ever read a thread in this section from someone who using their bitcoin to traveling to 2 countries and hold cash as well but he said that he only use his bitcoin for anything and his cash stay with him.
but he travels to big country (i mean in technological) then can found localbitcoin to exchange his btc. while the problem is not every countries provide localbitcoin to exchanges.

well,  in my point of view to make full service of cryptocurrency will be biggest things to develop. it would be be very good opportunity for business projects.
 
ICOs? did you means project hotel booking amd flights based on blockchain and crypto payment system? yeah i think that it should be enhance development because it still not give big influence toward this case.

Yes crypto tourism is growing, there was this guy who posted here how he traveled with 100$ and 1 - 3 Bitcoins, he successfully spend his money in Bitcoins and saved his Fiat, and it's not just him, a couple of my friends were successfully able to spend Bitcoins, and I feel this is only the tip of the ice, more and more people will sooner or later spend Bitcoins, cause you can roam without Fiat, without the risk of it been stolen. Just the start.

No it is not as it is rather confusing for a native English speaker.
When you add a term to tourism it is to show what you plan on doing or how you spend your days but it has nothing to do with how you pay cash digital ir coins.
We don't have dollartourism or visatourism or paypaltourism.


When I first read the title I tought it was about visiting places with bitcoin related stuff or travelling from one meeting to another


And I doubt price fluctuations are the reason we dont have more people paying with coins as merchants instantly convert btc to fiat it is rather that people dont want to spend their coins.
Si no custoners means no service.

If hotel booking, excursion pay, going to restaurant, many other things will be available by btcs with not bad conversation rate, we can say that cryptotourism is suceed.

true bitcoin can use to buy anything but for sure for now on you can't use bitcoin to travel around the world because have country so far are do not know bitcoin as currency, but if you can select the country allowing bitcoin exchange  you want to go using the bitcoin its possible.

We are certainly not there yet. But, there are some interesting altcoins which are targeting the travel market.

Probably one of the worst ideas ever....
Bitcoin is good for tourists because they don't have to exchange their $ to gbp or to euro or to god knows what currency.
Right now bitcoin works like a visa card and you don't have to carry any extra fiat.

By having an altcoin just for travel purposes defies the whole idea of global accepted currency.
You'll have to change your bitcoins to some altcoin for....what?

This is evolving and its being used currently I had read about a guy who travelled across two to three countries without enough cash but bitcoin in his wallet which came back and create a thread on that even on the forum. Bitcoin is evolving and spreading its tentacles across various sector of the economy where money is being spent.

However, everything has not been completed yet, as there are still a lot of ground to be covered what is needed is the modalities to make that happen without flouting the rule of migration between countries.

I think now that crypto has become more widespread, yes even few of the countries have started applying it to the real world, like restaurants or stores involving bitcoin.
but recently, the development of critiques and bitcoin is more powerful, because it has penetrated in life, yes even in certain countries. but basically it is the beginning and the example for other countries that will follow it.

Recently, I saw a topic here that a person travel in 2 or 3 country used around 1.9 bitcoin and with only 100$. So after this travel he found himself spend the 1.9 bitcoin and he didn't touch the 100$.
So, we can say, that travelling using our bitcoin is real; I mean we can use our bitcoin to travel and don't touch our real money.

It will happen soon. It's off to a good start. People have already proved it's possible. Now we just need to keep soebdibg and using Bitcoin like that so it gets accepted at more places and people see how useful it can be for their business. Once that step is established the rest will come easily without s problem and it will soon flow from there. Just wait and see. Bitcoin is nowhere near it's full potential. It will be realized within the next few years though.

yess actually many of people had use just only BITCOINS in travelling but they will change it to national currency of a certain country in order to pay..
maybe in 2025 we can use digital money directly to pay all the services like what you've said before HOPEFULLY
if that will happen transaction will be more faster and hassle free

Bitcoin is not yet globally accepted all around the world. So at present it would be quite difficult to go on a world tour depending on Bitcoin.
It is not impossible though. If tour service providers can be able to manage the tour by using only cryptos then it might be actually possible to go on a crypto tour. It will surely take a lot of effort and well planning as to execute such ideas takes a lot of risks. Management is the key to good crypto tourism. Hence if the management is good then it is surely possible.

Yes, that post was the following one:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2219153.msg22389111#msg22389111


Destinia has been accepting bitcoin payment since 2014. I don't know in how many countries but in Spain they accept it, so I would say that the same happens with most European ones. I've searched for info about this subject and I've found the following:

http://blog.destinia.com/news/destinia-decide-operar-venezuela-solo-bitcoins

The article (Destinia's blog) says that they only accept bitcoins for local travel in Venezuela. So, they trust bitcoin more than a State-issued currency, although we know it is a very weak, devaluated, and volatile one.

So if you pay for the flight and choose full board accommodation using bitcoins, you have paid most of the expenses. Then, you obviously need some cash but in some countries, you will be able to find places where to buy with bitcoin directly.

I think it is just a matter of time until bitcoin tourism offer becomes significantly wider.

As those countries are doing well with the economy and they set a trend for the outer world and bitcoin is successful in those countries who are applying in the real world and through the proper advertisement everyone will start using this blessing as tis technology is still evolving and as this will spread across the globe maximum of the world will start using it.

It's possible but not so comfortable as people would want to. It is still (as far as i know) not possible to pay directly for a plane/train/bus ticket - you have to exchange to regular fiat first. But as adoption rate grows, it will be more and more present in everyday's life.

if we want to travel far, better bitcoin that we have in exchange first become the state money we will travel. I hope the future bitcoin will issue bitcoin money that has a physical.

An interesting word to use but a dream world which might never become true. If you visit countries like newzealand yes you might have an option to pay using btc at a few places. But I dont think this is possible even in near future in some major country. Nice word cryptotourism.

Bitcoins is a too unstable currency to become a tourist currency. I mean the pizza shop or shoemaker can spend an endless amount of time adjusting prices to the vivid life of bitcoins.

Bitcoins is just not suited for small daily business across the globe – yet.

This is something that many people do not understand, bitcoin is not only a currency bitcoin is a lot more than that, and in the future I think people are going to find the way to exploit all the characteristics of bitcoin to the max, but right now I will be happy if people accepted bitcoin as currency all around the world.

me and many of my friends has done it and I've seen many people on BCT that posted their experiences. things are getting even more cool.

I don't think many people travel only because they can spend directly in bitcoin ???

But who knows about the future, if bitcoin price gets so high that most of us will be rich and will have no way to prove our money is legit. Spend directly with bitcoin may be useful, like a bitcoin fiscal paradise

While it does certainly hamper the amount of options you have, it is definitely possible to spend your holiday using only bitcoin. Some countries are already starting to cozy up to the ever expanding significance of cryptocurrencies and their role in the world economy. If the flame of trust for bitcoin doesn't fade out for a long time then yes, cryptotourism or whatever is the correct term for it provided one does exist anyway is on the path of indeed, evolving into a bigger thing.

Not right now but it may happen, after all there are many kind of tourisms around the world, there is medical tourism, people from rich countries sometimes travel to poorer countries because at those countries health care is way cheaper so I will not be surprised if something like this happened to bitcoin.

It depends on the definition of cryptotourism. If it includes using third party services like Xapo or Bitpay, as well as exchanging Bitcoin on local exchanges or via other means, than it's not hard and close to traveling with only your credit card and no cash. However, if cryptotourism means only using on-chain transactions for all spendings, than your options will be very limited, you will have to plan your routes accordingly and many places will be out of your reach. Since cryptocurrencies haven't reached mass adoption, it may be too early this kind of cryptotourism can be very inconvenient and only attracting for cryptoenthusiasts who love some challenge.

In Australia a company called TravelbyBit helping the Brisbane airport begin accepting crypto to purchase flights. It will be very interesting to watch the impact of crypto on the tourism industry, will massively reduce currency friction

Yeah. It is still in the stage of introduction. yet a long long way to go due to its popularity and future potential. Crypto  currency  is turning to be the fundamental mode of payment day by day. Considering technological advancement and tech savvy generation. undoubtedly crypto currency will not only evolve, but also boom.

Yes this term seems to me very new but its not new that people have tried to make tours (not world tour) but within there own country to see how digital spread is there. I have seen video on youtube where the couple starts one month journey into whole Europe without any real cash! The video seems to me shocking, it has many roadblocks than expected thought hey were int he European country where the digitalisation is wide spreader. They were however started overcoming the problem by talking with the local people who were interested in buying their tokens or digital currency and exchange it for the real cash. However that seems to me indirect way of spending the crypto but nothing was really entertaining the crypto in straight manner. So I think traveling the whole world with crypto would be bad idea for now.

Don't believe on those tiny frauds ever. don't ever waste time on them

Don't need to start such a big programs first start with programmes like medical treatment in exchange for btc

Its not possible because travelling in some countries with the aid of this btc is impossible due to restrictions

But i dont think it would be possible as it indirectly means payment of workers via digital currency which they would never accept

of course it develops! Because they earn on it! In addition, more and more people know about it...

You really dont get the idea of this thread so you? Crypto in the tourism industry is a long shot if you ask me. Crypto commnity is still small and thus large scale operations can not be lauched be it for tourism or anything else. However there is a hope for development in future.


If some restaurant accepts crypto then it like accepting bitcoin in your business - not really direct relation to tourism - but its debatable. Certainly people with crypto in their hands will be going there.

I agree with that because it will further sum up the wallet. but the government must still be thinking about it, yes, about inflation or deflation that could happen and affect the exchange rate of bitcoin to the dollar. and also internet connection must always exist and stable to do bitcoin transactions.

In my understanding, this thread may possibly soon be materialize once cryptocurrencies will be more adaptive all over the world. If crypto currency exchanges will be more visible in every country and recognized it's use, then it might be good to the people patronizing cryptocurrencies.

I used to know bit about travel using bitcoin. But it can not be paid directly. But since he is selling Bitcoin or Bitcoin, he is familiar with it. It will be possible only when it is accepted in all countries. It should be made faster by making international currencies, only then will it be possible.

this will be possible if the owner of the certain resto or what ever it is knows and have the knowledge about crypto currency
If i will have the chance to have a business like that I will 100% accept bitcoin as payment on services I am offering
BITCOIN is future give some more time and bitcoin will be the new form of currency or it is now

but for now lets just wait in that to happen

I think tourism in itself is evolving almost on a daily basis and so is the business associated with it and the currencies which we use in procuring these services because many airlines, hotels and restaurants are looking to add new forms of payments regularly and so the tourism merchants that have already added bitcoin as a medium of payment are adding dynamism to tourism and so are we the users of their services.

I have not yet had to travel with the help of crypto currency. But there are worthy projects that are developing in this direction, for example, travelchain. Also there are credit cards that are combined with crypto-currency wallets, the idea is good but did not use! Another of the problems, is that there is little where the crypto currency is accepted. But this is a matter of time ...

It would be very cool if someone created such a travel agency that would offer tours for crypto currency!

can also use its Bitcoin for tourism to various countries that do not accept Bitcoin but it may be a long process to get the Fiat.

you just want to go to Ecuador, but in Ecuador Bitcoin is banned, so you replace Bitcoin with USD in Bittrex then USD is replaced with Fiat from Ecudaor. it sounds complicated but that's the process.

I think over time communities will be established that cater to cryptocurrency users. One obstacle to this is regulatory uncertainty. As certain nations legalize cryptocurrencies they will become havens for their users.

Basically all cryptocurrency can be used in any transactions in  paying our bills  globally. So if you want to travel anywhwere in the world you can use your cryptowallet in paying you plane tickets etc..
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You could have a debit card with bitcoin then it's acceptable everywhere but otherwise I'm not so sure. The more tourists who come then every year the country grows in its economy. Some traders who accept bitcoin or easier travelers often ask about bitcoin ATMs but there are only a few of them also do not think we have not been so friendly to travelers using cryptocurrency. 8)

Absolutly correct. If the crypto currency  cannot compeate with the ease, speed, availabillity and fee of say credit cards it is never going to be the crypto travel you dreamed of. Bitcoins is not going to be the crypto that changes that, another crypto coin might tho.