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I have noticing that Ethereum is stagnant between 290 - 300 . While Bitcoin had sureged 500 upwards in last 10 days.

I do not see any momentum evenethough there are so many tokens are using ethereum tokens  ERC20 platform for their ICO and listing.

Maybe because ethereum was like 13 dollars not too long ago.
There are 94 million eth in circulation, maybe we're at the right price for now?

Shouldn't ether collapse under its own weight at some point. Does it's blockchain support all of the erc-20 tokens also?! Also don't forget ether was 10 cents not that long ago, you are basically stuffing the pockets of millionaires every time you buy one of their 10 cent tokens for 300$

You're right it all seems and feels quite artificial. The whole process does, the growth spurt, the price etc.
Will be interesting to see what happens with the fork.

I think! Most of altcoin exchang to BTC, including ETH and more people hold and exchange BTC every day!

When ETH switches to POS, we will have a great momentum. The price will rise good.

ETH for my opinion should be listed at least at 350-400, it should get recoveted like bitcoin and some other coins!

Hash difficulty is high too which will increase the price

Because all ICO's collect money with ETH and then dump it. Big whales don't want to rise the price. They accumulate those ETH's for long term gains.

I was wondering exactly the same today. Bitcoin is going up from a week and ETH is staying in 290-310 range.
IMO some ICOs are selling their collected ethers and they are pushing the price down.
My expectation for ether was 330-380 this week...

Ethereum has been stalling on the price for the past 2 months while Bitcoin has doubled and more.

Well, I hope the upcoming update will have a positive effect on ETH (hoping for at least 25%) :)

Every crypto may have different system and different protocol. We all know that Bitcoin is the best, so it is normal if the price of Bitcoin will always go up and other crypto may go down. But I heard that maybe, other crypto can beat the Bitcoin. We just do not know yet, no one knows about the future. Maybe the developers can make a better system or better protocol, let us see what the future looks like.

Consistency is good - it hasn't been affected much by any of the other BS news out there.

of course, because ethereum and bitcoin are different, not always btc rise then eth also rises. it depends on the buyer and the supply of goods, if sipembeli very much and supply little then the price will rise, as well as ethereum and bitcoin.

Mate you posted with 80 characters while your deep ocean of scam requires only 50. that's a record you added 30 by your self. OP you should know Eth will

Never raise enough to become a danger to Bitcoin, if you investigate about the development of Eth since the beginning you'll see that their development is

Centralized, controlled by one person the main dev. if he wants to change the code every one will have no saying other than forking or going through with

His changes. Bitcoin halted in development because the development is decentralized.

I also notice the same. Ethereum is just running around the $300 value. It breaks it and go beyond with some couple of dollars more and then let go of the $300 again. And then back to $300 or a dollar more. I am positive though that before the year ends this will go beyond $500.

That's one of the questions I wanted to know too, I really am wondering what's Ethereum holding back when Bitcoin had already recovered, Ethereum had not reach a new ath ever since Bitcoin dumped before the Segwit happened. I really hope it'll increase its value back again just like before.

i think while Bitcoin =$5000 , price ethereum will recover to 350 ,maybe less

a lots of ICOs scam will  effect to ethereum . not good for any Altcoins.

don't forget that ethereum needs time before break the $500 barrier and I think its too soon for ethereum to reach that price. but I believe that ethereum itself can reach more than $500 and bitcoin can reach $4500 but I think we only need to be patience. this is not just happen in one night to reach that price and its need a lot of thing before it is happen.

Wait for the hardfork and the price will definitely rise.  comparing the price surge of bitcoin and eth is like comparing apples with oranges. 

It might just be stuck at the technical level of $300. Even hundreds need some momentum to break through.

Switching to PoS most likely for ETH will go up. But it's not guarantee the Bitcoin price slowly soaring, people are more interested to invest on Bitcoin than Ethereum.

Mybe because bitcoin is major currency and etherium still not major currency and for time frame bitcoin is the coin father and etherium is after that and response of market for etherium not like bitcoin in demmand of coin.

bitcoin going back to 4400 and eth staying around 300 means that they arent directly correlated. wait for metropolis and pos and then there will be tons of people trying to buy eth. patience is the key.

due to currency waving may in the few day ethereum goes uprising the value follow to the bitcoin for my analysis sometimes the price value of bitcoin and ethereum have an a little deferrent value reason somtimes if ethereum pumpinh the value the bitcoin value ar steady but i do not think ethereum to become higher value than bitcoin because bitcoin are main source in the decentralized cryptocurrency and kbitcoin is the king among altcoins.

Lol maybe that could also be the reason dude. in fact bitcoin has a higher demand than ethereum so when the price of bitcoin recover does not mean the price ethereum will also recover at the previous price. because I think it's about demand on ethereum against the dollar ? #IMO

Well general tendency is that Eth do follow the rise along with the btc price rise. But sometimes it does not happen. I do think that there should be a upward movement of ETH unless some big institution are dumping the ETH and buying the btc. Hope so ETH too moves and reach its next target of 500$.

i think the effect of ban on the icos by china is still effecting it and that is the reason of its price not reaching too much high. all the icos are directly related to the ethereum and we all know that almost 90% of icos are directly ethereum linked that is really effective in the downfall of its price but i think soon it will recover to its previous one.

because bitcoin is a solid cryptocurrency that has been around and it has a lot of real usages. hundreds of thousnads of merchants around the world have been accepting bitcoin. many countries have adopted bitcoin as a legal currency and it has always been the safest cryptocurrency out there. that everyone knows.

eth on the other hand is a shitcoin with nothing to offer, only a place for ICOs to be born and pump the price of ETH as they only require that token to invest in it. it doesn't even have a cap! and on top of it all ehter has always been insecure with lots of bugs.
if that weren't enough people are leaving ether because they soon will not be able to mine it anymore.

I believe the metropolis should become a big bet for everyone about the price of ethereum. The  hype for bitcoin doesn't mean if that was having a correlation with the bitcoin itself.
I can say that was just a recovery from the ethereum.

Well there is a simple reason. When the bitcoin bull run is cooled off, interest will focus on alternative currencies that can still grow. Ethereum will be one of them.

There were two bans of ICOs. One in South Korea few days ago. I think it will affect ETH a little. The price will stagnate for a while.

South Korea bans didn't affect cryto world too much, what affect the cryptocurrency most is the Chuna bans wherein many investors really influenced the value of cryptos.

Ethereum have different speculators, Bitcoin have different. Ethereum is highly centralized, Bitcoin is not. Ethereum has more coin supply, Bitcoin is less. Bitcoin can go to the moon, Ethereum can stay in the world. If Ethereum speculators want it they can make 10.000 USD in a week, but they don't want. That sums up your question.

Most of these ICOs should be underwater by now, if having hodled the raised funds. There has been specualtions floating around the usual twitter places that they might want to pump ETH up again for transforming crypto into cash.
The legit ones at least who by some point in time have to pay for programing, office space and hardware. The scams might just have dumped at the first possible point in time.

first, logic that when bitcoin price rises in dollar does not mean other coin like eth will also experience price increase in dollar, i think every coin has different demand and PoS, so that's why when bitcoin prices are currently strengthening, eth price has not increased significantly like bitcoin

I think the price is being held back by the upcoming hard fork and that the price will almost definitely rise to 400 and upwards after that happens.

I agree with you, go back one year ago and look at bitcoin and ethereum's prices then you can understand why ethereum can't turn to $400s while bitcoin is rising to $5000 as strong.

Cause bitcoin is: more popular, has more uses, more people use it, is longer on the market and is generally more common.

I would love that perspective. There are fundings happening right now that would get affected by a sharp rise, however. Any precise date for the fork taking place?

Ethereum is also very popular altcoin but the main difference comes in the total supply of both coins. Eth is in tremendous amount while bitcoin is available in a scarce amount. Also, it cannot be denied that it has biggest community in the crypto coins world. Due to these two factors, its price is just shooting up at an amazing speed while eth can make slow progress even with a huge demand.

One because BTC and Ethereum mostly have a negative correlation to eachother, again alot of people are waiting to see how the next hard fork will go, because if it goes south it will be a major blow for the price and remember miners are not happy about this because it reduced their power and also believe if or not some hackers have a plan for this hardfork

Ethereum is not so conected to btc as many peoples think.
Eth now w8ing on hardfork, if hardfork go without anny issues then price will skyrocket.
I estimate prce around 1000$ till end of year. Even maybe 2000$ in best case scenario.

I confuse with current condition.

I predict that chinese market still has impact to international price,
so many peoples sell it now,
it is a good time to buy lots,
chinese seels ETH probably now and the maket is healing quite hard.

China never tried to kill the crypto currencies ever but its actions has very bad impact on all of them. However, it is not China exactly due to which bitcoin is making progress while altcoins are all stucked at one place. Bitcoin has a very large community which members are increasing with every day while it supply is a limited one rather a small one as compare to eth. That is why bitcoin makes fast progress.

Ethereum never had any relationship with the bitcoin but i just think about the hype of the ethereum harfork and a lot of the people think will be issued the new hardfork token as ethereum classic and that can be determined as another free money for them all.

I think we shouldn't compare Bitcoin and Ethereum though both seems like a competition between which coin will be more successful in the future. Although I do like both of these coins, maybe Ethereum is just right where it wants to be. It still hadn't reach a new highest price since I think 3 months ago when it reached 0.1 now it is steady at around 0.06-0.08.

The Thing is that Ethereum is used for ICOs and many bought Ethereum to push their ICOs and so the Ethereum prices got higher and higher, maybe it will rise again maybe not its nor a currency or what maybe it is good maybe not nobody knows in this time
 

Well price has reached the $311 level, something we haven't seen in a few weeks.  I think price is building up because of the incoming hard fork.  Best time to buy eth now, might be too late after the fork.

I also see even the bitcoin price increase and its now 4400 dollars the price of ethereum will not decrease. Because before if bitcoin price decrease or increase the ethereum also same it will happen of what happen in bitcoin price. I dont know why now its difference any new about that. I hope ethereum will increase again I hope it will reach 1000 dollars each ethereum before end of this year..

There's still a lot of uncertainty regarding the chinese regulations, it affects all of the crypto market, eth included

Ethereum has goes too high. It is time to taking some rest and re fueling before skyrocket again, i think etheruem will be mooning after the success hardfork. My prediction ethereum will reach all new time high arrounr $1000 - $1100 the end of this year or q1 2018. But bitcoin will be at $10000

Ethereum isn't going up in price because whatever people buy up to participate in ICOs will pretty much immediately get dumped by the people who run the ICOs. And since that is the only real use case for Ethereum right now, the prices aren't really moving anywhere.

Is it possible due to China ban FUD?
It is now slowly rising,
Probably best time to pump is just started :)

I think the price is ok if you see how lot is was not so long ago . It will be interesting to see what is gonna happen with the fork soon.

there's still a lot of people saying that fake USDT on bitfinex is keeping BTC artificially high.  all this stuff is subject to manipulation.  don't read too much into the price.

There is no true answer for that question. These two coins have their own dynamics and their own uses. It wouldn’t be right to expect them rise or fall in the same amount like twins.

Maybe because you can't just simply ask why ?
Bitcoin is different than ethereum. How are you just asking "WHY" its price didn't rise by the same amount bitcoin did ?

Well, because they're two "kind of" separate markets. Bitcoin's price is affected by a lot of things from trading, rumors, huge investments etc. etc. but all the other altcoins solely gain price from bitcoin's value (and trading but you know I feel they're just followers.)

I don't even know why you're complaining. Ethereum's price is not bad at all now.
For example if you check on March 28 you'll find that:

1 btc= $1033
1 eth= $50


It might be not as good as some weeks back but if you has invested early you would have surely made huge profits out of it.

coins like etehreum that are pumped can never hold their prices so obviously they will struggle hard to keep the price up around 300 and slowly they slip down toward their doom :D

lol ETH has such a massive stake and market in the crypto world, its not going to die over time - if anything it should continue to gain value over time as more apps and projects are made on ETH

think about all the ERC20 tokens which rely on ETH

Ethereum have a lot's of future and still used by many like ICO's it may decrease at some point and didn't reach to high amount but it's less volatile than other alts.

The banning of icos coming from china affect ethereum a lot more than it affected bitcoin, how many icos are running over bitcoin and how many are running over ETH? You have your answer, besides many icos gave bonuses to those that bought with ETH and the sparked demand, but with icos banned in china the demand for those bonuses has decreased as well.

The only people who really care about the China crackdown are those that run the Chinese government.

Simply because ETH and BTC aren't related. If Bitcoin is appreciating that never means ETH will increase too. Rather opposite happens to altcoins when Bitcoin appreciates, then altcoins usually experience a dip as happening right now. But, gradually they recover from the drop and start attaining momentum along with bitcoin. Regarding ETH, it is way too different from Bitcoin and has its own price driving factors. They both have their own market and fluctuate independently of each other.

You are correct which ETH and BTC prices are not correlated to each other which means they do freely move without depending of each other.There are really different driving factors why do price behaves on that way.If we do try to see on the price of bitcoin as of now it did actually reach up again and break 4500 price which is really great which i do suspect that the upcoming fork is the main reason.

Yup btc is in $4.5k again which may continue to grow this week. If another fuds will be made from the hard fork that will let the users specially newbie panics then dips may happen again and be a time for ETH to have some move.

I think that now the Ethereum konsolidiruyutsya after its rapid growth in summer. It is too early to rise. His time will come later, around the summer of 2018.

If you look at coinmarketcap right now, you will notice that all ERC20 tokens are in red numbers right now, nobody knows the real reason of this problem.
But we all know that when bitcoin goes up, all altcoins go down for a bit, and then they recover again, but it takes some days to make it happen.
Anyway, ethereum is going up again, maybe not to $400 like it was before, but it will be in some time.

It's not a problem. It's how reality works. It's called "market liquidity" for a reason, because market movements happen in waves (up and down motions) and mimic those of a liquid.
There simply is no asset that just goes up or down all the time. Nearly every token and coin in the crypto market goes red or green every other day in unison. There's also no obvious correlation between BTC and other coin prices that can be relied on 100% of the time.

But ethereum already broken $300 resistance and this time the price of ethereum stay in above $305 which determined as a good way to the ethereum. I should think the price of ethereum will be following the bitcoin regarding the bitcoin and ethereum hardfork in this month.

I think it is the right time for ETH to recover,
It was due to manybthings that ETH falling,
China ICO ban was probably the biggest one,
Currently market seems optimistic now

That is why Eth is placed at second place after bitcoins. All altcoins are so much volatile that means when there is a dip they can recover at much faster than other coins like bitcoin does. So that makes altcoins stand at second place. But as far as ETH is concerned, it has somehow stable than other altcoins but still it have to make much progress.

i agree with posts above. ico regulation in china had impact on eth. ico regulations will continue in other countries too. so less eth needed atm. bitcoin going for a fork means people speculate on free alt coin.

People care that is why you saw the price to get that low, but after sometime passes and the uncertainty in the market ends then things return to normal, people were shocked and scared but after some days bitcoin regained its value and now the value has reached an all time high.

it has been a little bit disappointing to see the price of eth getting stuck or even dropping.
does anyone have a link to a good article about this hardfork? this is the first time im hearing of it :o

A lot of countries decided to regulate/ban ICOs, which directly affects Ethereum but not Bitcoin

The price in this case is most likely dependent on popularization and the fact that the coin is "short" on the market, since its recent value was barely over $ 10.

I do not think it is a great mystery, china banned icos, and Chinese investors were an important part of the market, so naturally who is the most affected by this, ETH since it benefited the most from the speculative market, bitcoin does not use icos but it seems people found a way to create bitcoin related currencies with forks.