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BEFORE WE START.....

1. Discussion thread – (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=222884 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=222884)) Please try to put questions, discussions to the link above unless they’re private questions, then you should PM/email).

2. Try to keep this thread clean for bids. Thank you for your understanding.

3. If you are placing bids please make sure you read ALL and make sure you will be able to complete the documentation appropriately.



 Starting Bid: 1 Btc. Increments: Minimum 0.5 Btc. Buyout: 100 Btc

Reserve: None. Start: Wednesday 15:00 Noon, UTC. End: Saturday 15:00, UTC, or if the Buyout is reached.

Escrow: Yes, if required. Transfer of Btc can be done at point of sale, or an escrow service can be used.

All bids must be public/posted, no PM bids will be accepted.

Escrow notes: Jobe7 has offered to serve as escrow, otherwise known as Bitcoin Jobe, basic details can be given upon request (you can PM/email, bitcoinjobe@gmx.com) from him.
The winner of the auction pays the escrow fees. Escrow fee = 1%. Fee is payable when auction is won. The address of the escrow wallet will be public knowledge so that all can see that the funds have been deposited and transferred when required.

THE HOUSE/LAND
The house is located in 'Hetzdorf'

Hetzdorf is a village located about 20 km north-west of the county town of Prenzlau.


The property is situated centrally in a village setting. The residential area is quiet. The Road traffic is low. Meadows and fields, and forests are in the area. There is a lake at Wolf Hagen (about 5 km), the Dammsee at Hildebrandshagen (About 10 km), Lake Woldegk within miles.

Roads: A20 is about 12 km (at Strasburg), A11/Prenzlau at about 33 km, and the B198 in the immediate area.

Closest railway: 24 km

Planning Permit Land Use Plan: Yes
No monument protection/Denkmalschutz

An assessment is made in accordance with § 34 Building Code- Land value: circal 5, - € / m², for local standards of developed residential land.

Land registry Division II: No entry. Division III: No entry (No mortgages, leans, and free and clear title)


Living Space: 120 m²

The building in need of repair. Damage due to many years of vacancy, vandalism and leaky roof. Cover damage structural damage to the wood construction, waste deposits.

Water, electricity, central Sanitation is in the street. Functioning of any existing old infrastructure works is not known and could not be checked.

Access: Via concrete road.

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If you win:

1. On bid acceptance, you must send a deposit of 500 Euros to the notary in Germany, or the equivalent BTC to the escrow.

2. On confirmation of the deposit, a ‘purchase agreement’ is sent to you signed to show I accept your bid. You then sign the agreement to say you legally agree to buy the house.

3. You then post the original (of the agreement) to the notary and send a copy to me. You will also need to sign a ‘POA’ for the notary to act on your behalf, at your local German consul, or go to Germany. I suggest you check where the nearest German consul is before getting too involved here. If you are not prepared to travel to your nearest local German consul then this auction is not for you.

4. The deal is now legal, the notary will begin the transfer of the title. You will pay the owed funds in BTC to the escrow.

5. We will send a certificate of ‘all payments received’ to the escrow, signed and notarized. This document, when given to the German notary, is irrevocable proof that you have paid for the property and we will have no way whatsoever after that and the purchase and sale agreement has been given to the notary, to prevent the property being registered in your name.

6. The escrow transfer the funds to the seller (us) and sends the certificate of payment received, via registered email, at the same time.

If you wish to view the property then please contact me with your name, method of travel and photo ID and I will authorize you to visit and tell the local police and neighbours you are going to be there. This will prevent your arrest. Any damage done by any visitors will be reported as criminal damage.

Taxes-120 euros a year.

 Legal fees 500 euros plus aprox 7% of the total purchase price declared for transfer tax and notary fees.

 Publicity Upon winning the auction

with the winners agreement, I will keep people updated on how the sale is going via this thread. This is to show as much transparency as possible and to show that deals like this can really happen with Bitcoin. I will ask any interested press to respect the winners privacy, unless the winner is interested in press publicity, I am happy to give a statement myself pre-completion, after that, statements may require the winners agreement.

Just a quick bump to remind everyone bidding starts Wednesday.

You should provide pictures of the inside of the house.

Makes sense to do so. Can't judge a book by its cover only.

****AUCTION STARTED*****

Apologies for the late start off the line guys, but I mad the misfortune of my transmission going on the way home today and just arrived in. God bless american cars and automatics. Mines a manual next time for sure.

OK.....please remember to post all questions on the discussion thread only, this is simply for bids. anyone who posts here that is not bidding will be considered a troll.

Ill start this off with a bid of 2BTC

2.5BTC

3000 mBTC

You should consider the 'house' as a shell, and should be knocked down, its the property/land you should be considering, and to be fair its still very cheap.

Happy bidding!

Keep bits to BTC to avoid confusion please, thank you.

Is it possible that the house is in the village " Gneisenau " ?

THE HOUSE/LAND
The house is located in 'Hetzdorf'

Hetzdorf is a village located about 20 km north-west of the county town of Prenzlau.

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3BTC

3.5BTC

4BTC.

Woops, seeing that it said you must visit Germany, just realised I can't do this, at least any time soon, I shall withdraw my bid, I feel that is only fair.

You don't have to visit Germany, everything can be done via your local German consul in your own country.

4.5BTC

let's be serious...12 BTC

13BTC

13.1BTC

14BTC

15BTC

15.5BTC

16BTC

18BTC

18.5BTC

21.5

This auction FINISHES in roughly 10:20 hours (10 am gmt).

Is the land included in this auction?

Yes, it's mostly just about the land, the building itself should probably be torn down.

42 Minutes left.

22BTC

I would like to see the property before I buy it. I live in Sweden, but I am going to travel to Germany this summer.
If you need the payment fast and cant wait until July-August then you could remove my bid.

I was going to say nice bid but then you rejected your own bid :-[

hmmm...seems real tempting. . .

the going down to germany part is the hurdle tho. . .

all the best with the bidding wars!

My clock says this is over.

sure seems like it

Bitcoin_Bob should be in touch with you at some point today, congratulations. And again, I do encourage not to use escrow, as in this instance, this is a house/property and it's not really needed, especially if you're travelling to Germany and want to see the property, then you might as well pay at that time if that's agreeable with Bitcoin_Bob.

Do keep everyone updated if possible (maybe a thread in these forums), I believe Bitcoin_Bob will talk to you on this point, so that everyone can see it all go through fine and dandy and build confidence with this new frontier of House/Property Auctions for Bitcoins.

Interesting coming from the escrow.

Sniff, sniff?

Just odd as all. But looking at your trust you seem to be a scammer so I see why you are anti escrow.

how do u judge if 1 is a scammer?

My trust?

Progress update:


****THE WINNING BIDDER 1 KRONER, IS A COMPLETE TIMEWASTER****

The following conversation happened after the auction finished.


To which I replied;


I then received the following reply;






I then contacted the notary and lawyer and started to make arrangements all this morning, expecting personal details from Adam.

No reply, until now which is midnight Germany time, with the following off the cuff message;


I am pissed with him because I very fairly gave him the choice to pull out over the weekend but it was him, not me, that chased the purchase. Based on his word, I already instructed the lawyer to start the purchase and sale contract today.

My costs today:

1 hour of lawyer fees invoiced, for drawing up a purchase and sales contract: 120 euros (about 1.5BTC)

As it stands I am going to note on his trust profile that I have been in my eyes scammed out of 1.5BTC, because the lawyer isn't going to care about a sob story that he changed his mind, I'm still going to get invoiced.....


So now WHOLESALER sits as the winning bidder at 21.5BTC, and he has confirmed he will buy the property.

Why are you going to put me as Scammed for 1.5 BTC?
You did not inform me about that fee.
I answered within 48 hours.
I've also have had a lot to think about and a lot to do the last few days.

I thought it was a bit weird that the original escrower suggested that we shouldn't use escrow.
It got my scam-alert bell to ring.

If you want to leave me bad trust I suppose I cant stop you, but I don't see the point.
You said that the second-highest bidder has confirmed that he will buy the property, so you are going to use the contract anyway?

And I've said that I am truly sorry, that is all I have to say.

You can't suddenly turn this around and make it 'all about me' I really hate people who are like that. Jobe came forward and offered escrow, I said OK. I don't control other peoples posts. You asked if John K could be escrow I also said OK.

This is all about you not me. You won an auction, created your own terms in 'Oh lets wait 2 months before doing anything' and wanted the best of the auction, IE a really good deal, but want to take your time, chill out, take an easy stoll down to look at the property in....uh.....maybe 1 or two months.....and I then gave you the chance to back out with no bad feeling and you pushed me into completing with you.

I probably can use the same contract, I won't know until later today, but I'm going to look a bit of an idiot when I tell the lawyer please can he cross out the name 'Adam Henriksson' and replace it with someone else's name. Knowing lawyers, and knowing Germans, im probably going to hear a great big huff down the phone when the conversation goes like this:

'Um....can you put the contract that you are making on the back burner?'
'SIGH.....TUT.....YA YA, ok'
'Um....you wont charge me to make it into someone else name right?'
Silence.......
'Please? After all we won the war so don't you technically have to do everything I say for free?'
CLICK
'Hello?'

The main point here being you are yet another one of those people who are quick to make an agreement and then casually toss it to the wind when you are done, and basically you don't care about the other persons loss. For some reason you think I'm supposed to go to the lawyer, cap in hand, and risk my reputation for 120 euros. Im better off just paying him and apologising for the Idiot (AKA you) who screwed me around, calling you all kinds of bad names to him, and telling him to not worry about the money. (Which I'm pretty sure he wont, because I never heard of a lawyer who couldnt sleep at night due to his fees)

Of course you are forgetting also that I was doing this as a favour for a friend so I could prove trustworthiness and auction off my own property when people saw that this concept would actually work. So I'm actually down 120 euros for nothing,

I don't usually rant on at people but you enter into my gripe book at the same level as people who knock over glass jars etc in a shrug with a great big smash, and then shrug and walk off, maybe offering an 'apology' to the storekeeper but then  kicking off merry hell when asked to pay for what they break.

 You can be truly sorry, and truly exposed for what you are, a timewaster. If you were truly sorry you would accept the consequences of your actions.

To sum this up- how dare you come and try and make all this about having your 'scam alert bell' ringing. The point about your bad trust is exactly that- you've earned it.

Rant off.

Bob.

Sad how bitcoin_bob is okay to not deliver sold property when he did not get a good price on his no reserve auction, but yet when someone more or less does the same to him he gets upset.

Be careful when dealing with this guy and use trusted escrow. He likes to play fast and lose with rules and he has already scammed in an auction.

He also has been known to call names and use threats of violence when things do not go his way.

aw come on 'dude', lighten up 'man'......lol

Just because I found it funny that you had to make a post telling the world you were looking to buy a hundred thousand dollar lambo, did you really have to port the insults across to another thread?

Anyway just for laughs;

1. USE TRUSTED ESCROW- you mean like John K, which I was happy to do in this case? You don't read much do you. I'm worried for you, I really am, if you can't read English my friend, how are you going to be able to read the Italian manual that comes with your shiny new car?.....ALLLLLALVERDACHIEEEEEEEE!

2. Where exactly is this auction I scammed in anyway, because I must have missed it?

3. I don't see the comparison to me canning an auction because of goaty trolling, and someone not paying up on an auction (which has been won at much lower than value BTW) where there was an absence of goaty trolls?

4.  I have been known to call names. You are a goaty, goaty goat. Dirty goat. Nasty goat. Shoo ! Shoo! Or I will hit you with this broom. (Oh, my, you bought out my violent side!)

You are going to blame me for your scam? No man, this is about your actions and what you did. You failed to deliver on your last auction and that is a fact.

Guys be very careful with this known scammer.

Obviously my threat of a good brooming had no effect.

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I think many people are way too fast using the word "scammer".

It is starting to lose some of it's meaning...

Some actions here on this forum are pre-defined. The auction rules here are not the same a on e-bay.

But I do understand what you are getting at.  ;)

Bitcoin_bob close the thread if the deal is being done, before this becomes a punch up, AGAIN.

Bleh, I suppose so.

LOCKED for now until further updates.

OK the underbidder just confirmed that he found something else for sale whilst 1Kroner was dicking me around......

So I am re-opening the auction again at 18.5BTC starting bid until Midnight Sunday GMT.

Please no more timewasters......


The high bidder is back to BUSH.

Please be aware that Bush is likely a scammer, see his BTC auction thread.

Bitcoin_Bob offered me the property after his highest bidder flaked  and I just won another property auction in Germany and bought it so I'm an not able to buy this property ATM.

Thanks for confirming that Wholesaler.

Highest bid sits @ 18.5BTC and auction ends on Sunday 00:00GMT, so get bidding!

Hang on is property really that cheap in Germany?

That would cost you at least 500BTC anywhere is Australia. And property for BTC? interesting...

Anywhere? Like the outback?

Anyway not only do you have to pay the legal costs and taxes you have to pay to have the house torn down and removed.  Best to buy virgin land.

.. and its starting to get ridiculous.

for comparison: http://anzeigen.badische-zeitung.de/immobilien?6_f=100000&6_t=500000

18.75 BTC

 A house for 18.75 BTC  :o :o :o :o :o

The title is not correct. The building needs to be taken down. It is just the land that has value.

Land is a good thing, 18.75 BTC, do I get it or what.....

Well I am running the auction until Sunday night so assuming no moire bids, you will be the high bidder.

So I think this might be the first ever real estate deal paid for with Bitcoin ever?

What time sunday, which time zone?

I believe that one has been sold before.

You seem over concerned about this. If people are going to bid and buy the property I am sure they have read the OP and seen the picture. No need to repeat this every other post.

The goat just doesn't want this to succeed that is all. I don't quite know why. And actually in any case this is Chinese whisper information- I told Jobe in an email that the new owner might 'prefer' to take the building down, however, the outside walls are pretty solid, so its more of a 'use the shell' renovation than having to hire in crews of demolition workers etc. But anyway, my theory is this is cheap enough, the point of this sale is to establish trust rather than make a load of money.



00:00 GMT.

I wish I knew how to put those cool auction counters into these, if anyone knows please tell me.

People use this website for it:


Which (hopfully) translates into this image:

Timer removed. End time: 2013-06-16+23:59:59GMT

bitcoin_bob, please confirm to everyone if the timer has the correct ending time...

Thanks,

Adriano

Hi Adriano,

Looks like it to me, The auction ends when that timer stops.

WARNING:
bitcoin_bob MIGHT HAVE SCAMMED ME OUT OF SMURF DOLLS
HE SAID HE WOULD SHIP TODAY BUT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A TRACKING NUMBER OR EVEN NOTIFICATION OF SHIPMENT
BUYER BEWARE

IF HE WOULD SCAM A SMURF
HE WOULD SCAM A HOUSE TOO

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Sent from Canada post office this morning, then I went fishing and only just got in. sorry I did not think you would want a proof of posting, you didn't ask for one. If you noted I even left you a good feedback. Its Saturday evening for F sake, the same day I said I would post them......

What is it about these forums and everyone is automatically a scammer.

To be honest I've really just about had it with this place. So little trust in each other, so much back biting, it takes the fun out of the whole concept of bitcoin.

Flavius, seems to be to quick to judge and assumes the worst. Understandable with the Bitcoin 'community' but, he  should really ask...

Flavius PM'd me and said he meant it as a joke.......Maybe I just wasn't laughing.

as if the buzz killington image wasnt enough

No, it wasn't. Not everybody gets all the references...

(Ah, auctions. Can't edit :) ) I for one had no idea what that picture was supposed to mean... :)

completely uncalled for. . .

Good luck!

OH and one thing I want to lay to rest- The property does NOT need to be torn down.

Look at the photos, and the condition of the brickwork. It is fine.

But inside has no electric, water, etc. The translation of the German appraisal via google translate made it sound worse.

It needs to be renovated completely inside, basically, a few skips and to rip everything out down to the supporting walls and then start again with fresh gypsum boards/new electric, new windows, new electric and plumbing connection.....

in a pinch you are buying a SHELL. which, means that for all intents and purposes it is apraised at LAND VALUE ONLY and as there is no energy certificate and the property is not habitable at the moment it is sold as seen, IE for land value only.

This is where some confusion has happened, and people like the goat have jumped on the misunderstanding to try and sabotage the auction.

Anyone who is good at renovations would love this house, because it will be a real adventure to make it nice. Anyone with no building skills, honestly, it would cost you more money to hire in teams of builders at German salaries, to renovate it, than what it would cost for you to pick up a ready to go house in the local market. However as a sitting investment, the price will only go up.

I hope that clears things up. I'm going fishing.

Because you used my name and lied I have to respond when I would have normally waited until the end of the rerun of this auction.

You are not selling a "house" as most people understand the word. It is misleading.

Also the cost of removing even the inside of the "shell" will cost more than what the land is worth. This is something that could not be given away for free.

This is me being honest about your deception. This is not sabotage.

Be honest about things and people will not have to point out your deception/lies. I am known to be a rude cunt on this forum (scammers hate me!) but I am also known for being highly blunt and 100% honest.

Thank god we have white knights such as goat to protect us from these dastardly scams!
You must be some kind of superhero genius to be able to see through these incredibly complex con artist charades.

Lord knows we can't think at all for ourselves...thank you "white knight goat"...from the bottom of our hearts for saving us.  /s

25BTC

The issue is you are twisting this to make it sound like a scam. You think people don't buy property with abandoned buildings? Do you think someone that is ready and willing to pay for a property doesn't research or know what they are getting into?

Yes this obvious needs work but you saying he is not selling a "house" is out right a lie. You also say how removing the house would cost more than the land is worth yet you don't post anything to backup your claim.

Also with the whole scammers hate me because I am blunt and honest, well you are sabotaging this auction and for what reason? Do you just assume everyone is incapable in making their own purchases?

Like I said, people can read for themselves and if they have any questions they can PM the OP. I think your comments in this thread are not needed and frankly rude.

LOCKED AND SOLD TO ARCHETYP.

Congrats. Both parties please keep us updated.

UPDATE

Been in good contact with Archetyp, the high bidder.

We have a contract prepared and John K. Is escrowing the transaction, the funds are currently sitting at 1A7x7uQB4sM5UBz9aoB47JHpTGsTEGvvuf.

This week the contract should be at the notary in Germany ready to do the change of ownership.

Looks like it might have finally happened- a house sold for bitcoin!

This is not "A building for human habitation, esp. one that is lived in by a family or small group of people." As the word house isimplying. Basically you are buying the old building the kids play in.  I'm sure plenty of shits happend there.  Best wishes to the buyer

Well, its a start for some trust anyway. The next property I will be selling will be a habitable house. But if you ever read the discussion threads you would see that some stuff got complicated.

If you dont like the word house, lets say 'property' or 'landed title' call it what you will. Deeds are going to change hands for bitcoin. I think probably for the first time, but I could be wrong.

Just to update-

Archetyp has gone AWOL for over 7 days despite repeated emails, even after making escrow to John K.......

John has returned the money, and if nothing is heard from Archytyp by Friday then the bidding will be resumed again.

What happened finally?

What happnd in the house?

update please :)

I am in the hospital and have limited internet access.

I am withdrawing my bid.
I requested my payment back from John.

Can you do that?

Also why?

rofl.

bids are final, if you could withdraw them at will, auctions would be a joke.

He already did, the seller bounced the payment when he didn't reply for a week.

Will you restart auction ???
And I am happy to see other house that you announced, a place where you can actually live :)

I might try living in central EU for change :)
 

This auction has turned out to be quite a mess. Is there anyway we can get a clear update as to what the current status is? It sounds like there is some interest and a lot of people including myself are a little lost with all the clutter.

.. German style  :)

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OP is not even around.

Can't say I can blame him...

Yeah.

Two times bidders backing out of their bid is insane, the whole auction makes no sense, then.

I myself was going to post an auction here, but I'm not sure about it any more...

simply put:

btc house notary
does not compute in germany.

You can always say that you withdraw offer if not satisfied.
Not popular but it is common here :(

OP was trying to do something very complicated without understanding how BTC work or the culture of this forum.

Also his "house" is not exactly worth anything. I'm sure most people realized after the fact they were going to have to pay more in fees than the "house" was really worth.

This is true, he definitely should have said "building" instead, house is misleading to say the least.

That fact alone would be enough to invalidate the auction, if I made the rules, but...

...this is no excuse.

It was patently obvious there would have been fees involved, and despite the wrong wording it was clear anyway that it was an inhabitable building... it they bit without thinking, they are more guilty than the OP.

I agree, it is not an excuse. But people are people.

Also OP sold a different house with no reserve in a different auction and then voided the auction cuz he did not get the amount he wanted so really I don't feel too sorry for this chap.

Which auction was that?

I think it got archived into invisibility.

Basically what happened was that OP tried to pawn off another rotting deathtrap in the middle of nowhere. Which went pretty well until someone (ninjasmiley.gif) found the plot on a real estate site which showed the real state of the "house" and its status as being "only fit for deconstruction".

Wow good that someone found out

Oh?
Did it happen here?
Why?
I always assumed post would not disappear with time, or the whole forum would be pointless...

Still the land has value.  Any sane buyer would research it like hell, or even visit.

I think that thread can still be found. Post here don't disappear.

for the first house he would not post the address. someone else found it later and posted the address. he never even showed he had the rights to sell that house. i have no evidence to support this but i suspect in the first auction he was really going to just pass this house as the one he had in the photos. just a guess. i did not have the best of luck with him trying to get info.

What a jerk.

anyone bidding there would have been plain fool, in that case.

like I said, he did not get many bids.

Wow quite the slagging conversations in my absence. Of course instigated by the goat but, I would not have expected anything else.

Actually the real situation was thus- real life called and I have been away sorting out other things. After 2 times being let down by bitcoiners, I really did not have time to keep playing the game here.

However I am currently in Germany and thinking of giving this a shot again. I also have a car here and can take interested parties on a viewing- for gas money- I am based in berlin- so thats about 40 euros.

As usual the truth has been distorted beyond all imagination by the goat and the goatflock........

OK the property is still for sale. I see bitcoins taken a bit of a tumble since I listed it, surprising that considering lots of people in the bitcoin community do their best to sabotage the flow of the currency.......

I am willing to accept 30BTC or best offer. I am currently in Germany, and can facilitate a viewing trip etc. far easier than I could when I was in Canada. PM me for my german phone number if you would like to go view.

1BTC seems too good, whats wrong with it? Is it haunted?  ::)

1BTC is not the minimum bid, though, Im looking for 30BTC for a quick sale. I might stick it on ebay this week if no bites.

Its probably not as haunted as the abandoned base I was in outside of berlin yesterday. someone painted a 10ft deamon on the wall of the old chapel, I personally would not like to be full of strange substances there!

5BTC

6  btc

Do you mind if I ask is here any graveyard in close nearby or religious objects?

Can I please ask what are the closing costs of this. You have mentioned 500euros.

If I bidder and won, what are the current expected legal fees.

Phil

500 years old graveyard very close to this so careful  ???  ???  ???

Silent Hill ???

cheers

I was reading and hoping for a happy ending for the thread.  If I were near Germany I would bid on the place, take possession and have a nice, quite little place to retreat to (maybe park a tralier outside?)  If you ever decide to auction off something in Canada I would be on it.

There seems to be a lot of hostility in the tread and from what I can see, the property was auctioned off twice with both bidders dropping out (even after escrow.)  I do not know the history on the other thread- but there has to be somebody in the EU who would tour past the home, look it over and put in a bid.  It would just be cool to see a property get sold for BTC, or LTC... 

If you could post pictures of the inside of the building, and explain a bit more about the state of the building I could be interested.

I'm assuming it is structurally safe to live in?  I see there's a chimney, does it have a functioning fireplace?  Does it have any insulation?  Are the water pipes +taps ok? (will need re-connecting I presume). 

Sorry for the absence been away from the internet.

It needs a complete gutting really. No insulation. Its sale is land value only, building is as is where is as they say in Canada, hence the 30BTC ask.

Still no answer, please?

watch out, probably haunted ::)

This is the official unofficial santoshi hide out

So u will need to evict santoshi b4 taking possession

Jesus ....


Ehrlich hier wird ein Haus in Deutschland verkauft und man muss echt im Englischem teil nach schauen O.o

Full of ghosts. Actually I spent the last month in hell because one sucked me in through a portal when I visited the property. I barely made it out alive. In fact Im still wondering if this is just a trick of the mind and my balls are still being whipped by a balrog.

I just asked honestly, and still I am the highest bidder.

Maybe you will consider also honest answer?

I dont know why you feel provoked by me.


Thank You,
Milan77

I did not mean to be sarcastic, I thought you were joking.

Can you PM me and we will talk more. I have been very busy on a project for a while, but can give some attention now.

many thanks

So are you buying?