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Title: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: dacutey1023 on October 26, 2017, 02:00:38 PM
GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com if you are interested.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=GTX+1070+ti&N=-1&isNodeId=1


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Miracle_Man on October 26, 2017, 02:05:32 PM
Was there already an official announcement? It seems like a mistake. But the price is normal. Sorry in my country will be much more expensive.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: crazydane on October 26, 2017, 02:10:49 PM
I posted this in the existing 1070Ti thread earlier this morning.  I went ahead and ordered an EVGA one for testing.  Hopefully it will do North of 500 Sol/s.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: judypug1956 on October 26, 2017, 02:17:35 PM
They do not seem special. Not sure I am buying.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: blevotron on October 26, 2017, 02:17:59 PM
Is there any info about ethereum hashrate ? Want to add one more into my green eth rig to make it full  8)


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: flip4flop on October 26, 2017, 02:29:50 PM
I am hesitant to order.  The price seems a little high for me to go from 1070s to 1070 ti.  I am currently getting 470 sol/s. I dont know if its worth it to replace my 1070 I just bought for 429 to go up 30sol/s.  I want to wait to see what people are getting out of these or at least till black friday when there may be a bigger sale on them.  If I am going to spend up and replace a card I think it may be best to just jump up to the 1080ti.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Habbiton on October 26, 2017, 02:31:18 PM
It's been anounced some hours ago, so it's official!


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: papabiz on October 26, 2017, 02:32:26 PM
Also possible to pre-order on nvidias website for 449 i belive. (only for us/canada)

What is it that is the determinating factor of the hashrate? It has 8GB mem, CUDA cores close to an 1080, why shouldnt it be as good as a 1080?
Any hardware pro's that can answer?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: RealSwissMiner on October 26, 2017, 02:33:42 PM
Following this as I am keen to see first results.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: leowonderful on October 26, 2017, 02:34:02 PM
Also possible to pre-order on nvidias website for 449 i belive. (only for us/canada)

What is it that is the determinating factor of the hashrate? It has 8GB mem, CUDA cores close to an 1080, why shouldnt it be as good as a 1080?
Any hardware pro's that can answer?
Memory is a big factor. GDDR5x in the 1080 compared to GDDR5 in the GTX 1070 TI. It should be what makes or breaks the GPU in terms of mining, economically and gaming wise it doesn’t make sense to buy this thing either. IIRC 5 was better than 5X out of the box with the 1070 and 1080, not sure how it is now.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: papabiz on October 26, 2017, 02:37:25 PM
Also possible to pre-order on nvidias website for 449 i belive. (only for us/canada)

What is it that is the determinating factor of the hashrate? It has 8GB mem, CUDA cores close to an 1080, why shouldnt it be as good as a 1080?
Any hardware pro's that can answer?
Memory is a big factor. GDDR5x in the 1080 compared to GDDR5 in the GTX 1070 TI. It should be what makes or breaks the GPU in terms of mining, economically and gaming wise it doesn’t make sense to buy this thing either. IIRC 5 was better than 5X out of the box with the 1070 and 1080, not sure how it is now.

Indeed the mem type playes a role, but I believe we (miners) want the GDDR5 type, it performs better for mining if im not all wrong.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: ivakar on October 26, 2017, 02:38:15 PM
hm, as far as I know the speed will increase like +10% to the current GTX1070
but wait, the price is also +10-15% more? so what the point then?
to buy GTX1070ti for 489$ when you can buy GTX1080 for $509 and got Destiny2 worth of $60 from the same new egg?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127945&cm_re=GTX_1080-_-14-127-945-_-Product

and 1080 will be faster for hole 20%-25% from GTX1070!


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: garytheasshole on October 26, 2017, 02:41:43 PM
Memory Bus:   256 bit

LAME! VERY LAME NVIDIA!


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: lunobird on October 26, 2017, 02:51:27 PM
wow they moved up the price of the 1080 in order to squeeze in the high price of the 1070 ti.  1080 armor was like $500 last week now it's $550.   OH well pre order one for fun.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: oliverTVG on October 26, 2017, 02:53:44 PM
If 1070 Ti comes to market, will this lower other graphic cards prices ?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: garytheasshole on October 26, 2017, 02:56:03 PM
If 1070 Ti comes to market, will this lower other graphic cards prices ?

See the post above you, quite the opposite, it's quite the disappointment with such small memory bus.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/a3/a3e74e84b75879442f73df18e67c1e0c8cb93e5919a4b3f1baba511bfa3e6cb8.jpg


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: ivakar on October 26, 2017, 02:58:50 PM
If 1070 Ti comes to market, will this lower other graphic cards prices ?

I do not think so, some members suspect that NV will rise the prices instead!
I know that 1080ti is a very rare find now and the price gone up like $50 - $150 range
the price for simple version of 1080 will also rise, now I saw only one offer for $505, the rest are $550-570 range
and I thin NV will just make obsolete GTX1070, so if you want to spend $400 - nope, spend $450 now!


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Za1n on October 26, 2017, 03:05:35 PM
wow they moved up the price of the 1080 in order to squeeze in the high price of the 1070 ti.  1080 armor was like $500 last week now it's $550.   OH well pre order one for fun.

I was going to say, it looked like the price was very close to the 1080 when I first looked at it so why would anyone buy the 1070TI. Then I also seen they jacked up the 1080 prices in the meantime. It does seem like there are some dirty tricks going on with pricing, not sure if it is Nvidia or the retailers causing it though.

I was going to order one to try it out, but now I think I will hold off until some mining results start coming in.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on October 26, 2017, 03:08:47 PM
Memory Bus:   256 bit

LAME! VERY LAME NVIDIA!

I agree, there is stagnation in this regard... where are the 512 or 1024 bit memory bus?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: garytheasshole on October 26, 2017, 03:19:19 PM
Memory Bus:   256 bit

LAME! VERY LAME NVIDIA!

I agree, there is stagnation in this regard... where are the 512 or 1024 bit memory bus?

Yeah look at Vega 56 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2993/radeon-rx-vega-56 Almost 10 times the memory bus for the same price.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Good_Boy on October 26, 2017, 03:24:15 PM
News is good. But what about mining? The characteristics of nothing special. We will wait for the mining tests.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: laineux on October 26, 2017, 04:54:14 PM
I just ordered 3 CGUs because I will build a new GTX rig
Good timing for me

I suppose 1070ti will be better than 1070 for quite same price


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: xFGND on October 26, 2017, 05:08:55 PM
Yay, let's preorder a card that nobody has any idea how it performs. I'm going to wait for verified results before I pull the trigger.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: laineux on October 26, 2017, 05:36:45 PM
The same memory than 1070 and 25% cores more.
It should be a fantastic and polyvalent GPU to mine all type of coins


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: blazecygnus on October 26, 2017, 05:37:34 PM
Could they can push the max effective on mining ? Cause seems like with that price it's not fit with how it could be worked. And the news should give us some examples about how performance in mining of GTX 1070Ti .


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: percy_tc on October 26, 2017, 05:41:18 PM
The same memory than 1070 and 25% cores more.
It should be a fantastic and polyvalent GPU to mine all type of coins

TDP 180W


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: jyakulis on October 26, 2017, 05:49:04 PM
i'm predicting 37-41 eth

550-560 equihash


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: lunobird on October 26, 2017, 05:54:52 PM
which gtx 1070 ti would be the best model for air cooling?  MSI titanium/gaming or the duke tripple fans?  The evga sc black looks a bit whimmpy on cooling but it's the evga brand which is the best and tends to have the highest score reviews.  evga FTW2 looks great but too expensive $500. 

I am not sure which one is the best/value card to get.  I want something that will have best air cooling and best resale value down the road.



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: aws-premium on October 26, 2017, 06:42:36 PM
i'm predicting 37-41 eth

550-560 equihash

Thas is wishful thinking, that would be above 1080 Level...


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: leowonderful on October 26, 2017, 06:51:04 PM
which gtx 1070 ti would be the best model for air cooling?  MSI titanium/gaming or the duke tripple fans?  The evga sc black looks a bit whimmpy on cooling but it's the evga brand which is the best and tends to have the highest score reviews.  evga FTW2 looks great but too expensive $500.  

I am not sure which one is the best/value card to get.  I want something that will have best air cooling and best resale value down the road.


I'd go with the Duke if you really want the card. Gaming X is roughly about the same as the Duke in cooling and performance. More fans can never hurt on a GPU as long as the cooling is adequate.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Oakey22 on October 26, 2017, 08:38:42 PM
I just ordered a few, if they are no good i will send them back, at least i have tried them :)


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: jyakulis on October 26, 2017, 09:31:45 PM
i'm predicting 37-41 eth

550-560 equihash

Thas is wishful thinking, that would be above 1080 Level...


It WILL be better than a 1080 on eth. Id bet on that. How could it be worse?

On equihash it will probably be slightly worse than a 1080.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: garytheasshole on October 26, 2017, 09:45:19 PM
i'm predicting 37-41 eth

550-560 equihash

Thas is wishful thinking, that would be above 1080 Level...


It WILL be better than a 1080 on eth. Id bet on that. How could it be worse?

On equihash it will probably be slightly worse than a 1080.
Why bet? Just look at the specs https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/3010/geforce-gtx-1070-ti https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2839/geforce-gtx-1080
You're clearly wrong.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: jyakulis on October 26, 2017, 10:01:54 PM
i'm predicting 37-41 eth

550-560 equihash

Thas is wishful thinking, that would be above 1080 Level...


It WILL be better than a 1080 on eth. Id bet on that. How could it be worse?

On equihash it will probably be slightly worse than a 1080.
Why bet? Just look at the specs https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/3010/geforce-gtx-1070-ti https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2839/geforce-gtx-1080
You're clearly wrong.

1070's are already better on eth than a 1080. Why would a 1070 ti be worse. There is one person clearly wrong here and it ain't me  :-*


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: funnynuffy on October 27, 2017, 04:52:35 AM
Memory clocks are same as regular 1070 - and core has no influence on ETH mining. I underclock cores on 1070s to 1000-1200 levels and still get same results (with much lower consumption from the wall). The highest hashrates on ETH are around 32,5 for really good cards (Zotac AMP! - able to sustain +900 (1800eff) on memories), 30-31 on regular cards and 29,5 on unlucky cards (Asus with Micron memories).
So regarding the ETH - I dont see any possibility to get higher hashes on 1070Ti - unless You manage to OC the memories like god.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: umine on October 27, 2017, 05:15:21 AM
i'm predicting 37-41 eth

550-560 equihash

So for equihash and other "core" algos gtx1070ti will be practically equal gtx1080. The price is also equal. Maybe we will see something interesting on Ethash and Neoscrypt


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Raimy on October 27, 2017, 05:28:28 AM
I was thinking about buying some normal 1070's, but with this news I think I will hold out and see what the reported results are from the 1070 TI first before deciding.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: ivakar on October 27, 2017, 06:47:56 AM
if the price would be the same as 1070 - then it is clearly a better deal, but I know that the price will be like 12-15% higher then the  regular price for 1070 
So based on the leaked benchmarks of 3dmark the performance of GTX 1070TI will be better for 10-15% vs GTX1070, so basically that means it does not matter which card to buy, they are the same  ::)



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Bulletdodger on October 27, 2017, 09:34:39 AM
if the price would be the same as 1070 - then it is clearly a better deal, but I know that the price will be like 12-15% higher then the  regular price for 1070 
So based on the leaked benchmarks of 3dmark the performance of GTX 1070TI will be better for 10-15% vs GTX1070, so basically that means it does not matter which card to buy, they are the same  ::)



Yeah, it's bad. No sense in buying the Ti, there is no chance it will cost the same as 1070, and suppliers already have upped the prices of the regular 1070.
Waiting for new architecture...


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Cereberus on October 27, 2017, 10:03:40 AM
I am seeing in instagram, EVGA, X8LR, PNY and a few other suppliers all are offering it in pre order for 449 USD price. While you guys complain a smaller memory compared to RX Vega 56 keep in mind this in performance is between 1070 and 1080 so a bit more than 1070 and a bit less than 1080. For that price new it seems the correct price to me, hopefully when this hits the markets on early November the price of 1060 falls down even more as I have been saving some money to buy 2 or 3 of 1060 for my mining activity.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: jyakulis on October 27, 2017, 11:36:57 AM
Memory clocks are same as regular 1070 - and core has no influence on ETH mining. I underclock cores on 1070s to 1000-1200 levels and still get same results (with much lower consumption from the wall). The highest hashrates on ETH are around 32,5 for really good cards (Zotac AMP! - able to sustain +900 (1800eff) on memories), 30-31 on regular cards and 29,5 on unlucky cards (Asus with Micron memories).
So regarding the ETH - I dont see any possibility to get higher hashes on 1070Ti - unless You manage to OC the memories like god.

dang good analysis. time will tell


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Bulletdodger on October 27, 2017, 01:40:28 PM
Ah... nothing really interesting to see here people. 1080Ti is still the king. :P


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: lunobird on October 27, 2017, 06:06:16 PM
Ah... nothing really interesting to see here people. 1080Ti is still the king. :P


Haha yep.  Unfortunetly I FOMO pre order bought 4x 1070 ti.  Not sure why I was panic'ing with the preorder rush.  Fear of sold out.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: flip4flop on October 27, 2017, 06:08:26 PM
The question I have is when the next card is going to come out.  I guess that would be the 1090?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: smoolae on October 27, 2017, 06:44:32 PM
The question I have is when the next card is going to come out.  I guess that would be the 1090?

Probably "Nvidia 20 Series" is next


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Bulletdodger on October 27, 2017, 07:42:27 PM
Ah... nothing really interesting to see here people. 1080Ti is still the king. :P


Haha yep.  Unfortunetly I FOMO pre order bought 4x 1070 ti.  Not sure why I was panic'ing with the preorder rush.  Fear of sold out.

Haha, after well known FOMO, now FOSO comes to crypto. :D



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: laineux on October 27, 2017, 07:51:53 PM
Ah... nothing really interesting to see here people. 1080Ti is still the king. :P


Yes, I love my 1080ti's
But too expensive...


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: ivakar on October 28, 2017, 04:38:31 AM
Ah... nothing really interesting to see here people. 1080Ti is still the king. :P


Yes, I love my 1080ti's
But too expensive...


1080ti is the best balanced with the price and powers solution market has now, if you can grab one for $700 it would be basically a stealer!
see for yourself :
1. performance wise one 1080ti is equivalent (rough) for  two 1070 and three 1060
2. 1080ti eats like 250-260W, 1070 - 130-150W, so 2 of them will be 260-300W, 1060 - 100-120W, so 3 of them will be 300-360W - who is the king? 1080ti!
3. the price for 1080ti is $750, for 2x1070 is $850, for 3x1060 is $950. who is the king? 1080ti!



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: laineux on October 28, 2017, 09:43:04 AM
In France, 1070 ti are out of stock in the main shops



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: P4ndoraBox on October 28, 2017, 06:26:20 PM
I preordered one EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti DirectX 12 08G-P4-6775-KR : https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487388&cm_re=1070_ti-_-14-487-388-_-Product

There was a 40 CAD bucks difference with the one that has one 8 pin connector, didn't took any chance, took the 2 x 8 pins one. I've chosen evga because the last 8 1060 FTW2+ had all samsung memory.

I think it's worth the shot to at least buy one since we have the preorder price.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: lunobird on October 29, 2017, 12:09:06 AM
I preordered one EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti DirectX 12 08G-P4-6775-KR : https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487388&cm_re=1070_ti-_-14-487-388-_-Product

There was a 40 CAD bucks difference with the one that has one 8 pin connector, didn't took any chance, took the 2 x 8 pins one. I've chosen evga because the last 8 1060 FTW2+ had all samsung memory.

I think it's worth the shot to at least buy one since we have the preorder price.

Ya the evga is nice b/c it has dual ball bearing fans so they can last longer,  also the one you picked out has a nice beefy heat sink that's larger,  Congrats, I may get this one also,   I got the MSI titanium b/c it has ball bearing fans and a beefy heatsink,  I am unsure about the memory but hopefully it's the good one.

I think you made a great choice and worth the extra $ .   Amazon is another good source to start looking for pre orders.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: RealSwissMiner on October 29, 2017, 08:17:15 AM
Looks like the the GTX 1070 prices went down a notch in most shops here. The GTX 1070 Ti has basically the old GTX 1070 price. I am tented to pre-order one for testing - the price range is roughly 100 bucks from the cheapest to the most expensive model across manufactures.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: P4ndoraBox on October 29, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Here in Canada the ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1070 Ti STRIX-GTX1070TI-A8G-GAMING 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 is already sold out at pre order.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: protonjo on October 29, 2017, 11:42:12 PM
Ah... nothing really interesting to see here people. 1080Ti is still the king. :P


Yes, I love my 1080ti's
But too expensive...


1080ti is the best balanced with the price and powers solution market has now, if you can grab one for $700 it would be basically a stealer!
see for yourself :
1. performance wise one 1080ti is equivalent (rough) for  two 1070 and three 1060
2. 1080ti eats like 250-260W, 1070 - 130-150W, so 2 of them will be 260-300W, 1060 - 100-120W, so 3 of them will be 300-360W - who is the king? 1080ti!
3. the price for 1080ti is $750, for 2x1070 is $850, for 3x1060 is $950. who is the king? 1080ti!



How many sols does one 1080ti do compared to a 2 1070s? I'm interested in the watts and temps of running one 1080i vs 2 1070s


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: sundownz on October 30, 2017, 02:40:40 AM
Ah... nothing really interesting to see here people. 1080Ti is still the king. :P


Yes, I love my 1080ti's
But too expensive...

1080ti is the best balanced with the price and powers solution market has now, if you can grab one for $700 it would be basically a stealer!
see for yourself :
1. performance wise one 1080ti is equivalent (rough) for  two 1070 and three 1060
2. 1080ti eats like 250-260W, 1070 - 130-150W, so 2 of them will be 260-300W, 1060 - 100-120W, so 3 of them will be 300-360W - who is the king? 1080ti!
3. the price for 1080ti is $750, for 2x1070 is $850, for 3x1060 is $950. who is the king? 1080ti!

IMHO the 1060 3GB is an awesome bargain if you mine a bunch of algos (not just ETH)... you can get them for $189.99 each at this time. I bought 20 pcs of the EVGA Superclock 1060 for this price recently.

I have a large number of 1060 3 GB (various brands) in my mining farm and I'm very pleased at price / performance / time to pay-off.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on October 30, 2017, 04:02:58 AM
Also possible to pre-order on nvidias website for 449 i belive. (only for us/canada)

What is it that is the determinating factor of the hashrate? It has 8GB mem, CUDA cores close to an 1080, why shouldnt it be as good as a 1080?
Any hardware pro's that can answer?
Memory is a big factor. GDDR5x in the 1080 compared to GDDR5 in the GTX 1070 TI. It should be what makes or breaks the GPU in terms of mining

 Only on the ETH algorithm, nothing else is as picky about memory - but it likely will easily beat the 1070 and MIGHT argue or even beat the 1080ti on ETH mining (the 1070 beats the 1080 on ETH due to that GDDR5X).

 It should fall in just a HAIR under the 1080 and easily beat the 1070 on everything else.

 My pair of Aorus GTX 1080ti cards (the BASE Aorus, not the higher-clocked version) pull about 780 sol/s at 250 watts (100% tdp), +100 core +150 mem, after a fair bit of tweek testing the core and memory settings seem to be optimal for it on ZCash.
 They still pulls 720 at 200 watts TDP (80%) and the "efficiency knee" seems to be somewhere in the 150 watt (620 sol) to 175 watt (680 sol) range.
 One is in my game system running Win7, the other in my experimental B250 Mining Pro riser rig running XUbuntu LINUX - but the stats are the same give or take measurement limits.
 Even pushing, I've never gotten an Aorus to go much over 70C on 80% fan even with a 90F ambient - and the one in my gaming machine has never gone over 66C or so since it's in an air-conditioned room at around 80F ambient in a case with good airflow.

 My Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1080ti pulls close to those numbers, but falls down some on the high end as it overheats faster and can't maintain boost as well - and it runs 3-4C hotter unless I pump the fan up to 90% or so.
 Up side, it's only 8+6 for power connection instead of 8+8 for the Aorus.

 Best I've seen out of a 1070 was around 450 ballpark, some folks have claimed a lot higher but they apparently have had a lot better luck on getting their memory to overclock a lot than I have.




Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: aws-premium on October 30, 2017, 10:10:51 AM
to according to you prediction this one will have less Impact on Mining Speed. So stick to 1070 or 1080TI life before, thanks for the Summary Guys.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Gataway on October 30, 2017, 10:25:16 AM

Memory clocks are same as regular 1070 - and core has no influence on ETH mining. I underclock cores on 1070s to 1000-1200 levels and still get same results (with much lower consumption from the wall). The highest hashrates on ETH are around 32,5 for really good cards (Zotac AMP! - able to sustain +900 (1800eff) on memories), 30-31 on regular cards and 29,5 on unlucky cards (Asus with Micron memories).
So regarding the ETH - I dont see any possibility to get higher hashes on 1070Ti - unless You manage to OC the memories like god.


It seems 1070Ti is not worth it for the ETH. We will wait and see.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: griffoncoin on October 30, 2017, 10:43:58 AM
Found this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymO2VeIA8hc

shows 1070ti is doing 58Mh in eth mining .

is it true ?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Ambros on October 30, 2017, 10:47:40 AM
Found this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymO2VeIA8hc

shows 1070ti is doing 58Mh in eth mining.

is it true ?

Absolutely fake


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: crazydane on October 30, 2017, 11:20:12 AM
Ah... nothing really interesting to see here people. 1080Ti is still the king. :P


Yes, I love my 1080ti's
But too expensive...


1080ti is the best balanced with the price and powers solution market has now, if you can grab one for $700 it would be basically a stealer!
see for yourself :
1. performance wise one 1080ti is equivalent (rough) for  two 1070 and three 1060
2. 1080ti eats like 250-260W, 1070 - 130-150W, so 2 of them will be 260-300W, 1060 - 100-120W, so 3 of them will be 300-360W - who is the king? 1080ti!
3. the price for 1080ti is $750, for 2x1070 is $850, for 3x1060 is $950. who is the king? 1080ti!



How many sols does one 1080ti do compared to a 2 1070s? I'm interested in the watts and temps of running one 1080i vs 2 1070s

Here's a 1070 rig on top and a 1080ti at the bottom:

http://www.cstone.net/~dk/1070vs1080ti.PNG

And here a water cooled 1080Ti rig being pushed a little harder:

http://www.cstone.net/~dk/1080tih20.PNG


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: RealSwissMiner on October 30, 2017, 12:35:23 PM
Nice setup  crazydane. Temperatues looking good and also the efficiency across the board. How much is that water cooling solution consuming energy wise?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: leowonderful on October 30, 2017, 12:42:30 PM
Also possible to pre-order on nvidias website for 449 i belive. (only for us/canada)

What is it that is the determinating factor of the hashrate? It has 8GB mem, CUDA cores close to an 1080, why shouldnt it be as good as a 1080?
Any hardware pro's that can answer?
Memory is a big factor. GDDR5x in the 1080 compared to GDDR5 in the GTX 1070 TI. It should be what makes or breaks the GPU in terms of mining

 Only on the ETH algorithm, nothing else is as picky about memory - but it likely will easily beat the 1070 and MIGHT argue or even beat the 1080ti on ETH mining (the 1070 beats the 1080 on ETH due to that GDDR5X).

 It should fall in just a HAIR under the 1080 and easily beat the 1070 on everything else.

 My pair of Aorus GTX 1080ti cards (the BASE Aorus, not the higher-clocked version) pull about 780 sol/s at 250 watts (100% tdp), +100 core +150 mem, after a fair bit of tweek testing the core and memory settings seem to be optimal for it on ZCash.
 They still pulls 720 at 200 watts TDP (80%) and the "efficiency knee" seems to be somewhere in the 150 watt (620 sol) to 175 watt (680 sol) range.
 One is in my game system running Win7, the other in my experimental B250 Mining Pro riser rig running XUbuntu LINUX - but the stats are the same give or take measurement limits.
 Even pushing, I've never gotten an Aorus to go much over 70C on 80% fan even with a 90F ambient - and the one in my gaming machine has never gone over 66C or so since it's in an air-conditioned room at around 80F ambient in a case with good airflow.

 My Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1080ti pulls close to those numbers, but falls down some on the high end as it overheats faster and can't maintain boost as well - and it runs 3-4C hotter unless I pump the fan up to 90% or so.
 Up side, it's only 8+6 for power connection instead of 8+8 for the Aorus.

 Best I've seen out of a 1070 was around 450 ballpark, some folks have claimed a lot higher but they apparently have had a lot better luck on getting their memory to overclock a lot than I have.



I guess it’s more or less up to what you’ll want to mine in the end, then. I’d still recommend possibly getting a 1080 over a 1070 ti if pricing stays as it is (mostly because of mining flexibility and perhaps better resale down the line) and until we actually get reliable and confirmed mining hashrate reports here. Forgot to specify Ethereum there, mining profitability has shifted a lot in the last few months ;)


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: BlockMedx on October 30, 2017, 12:54:19 PM
I keep struggling to understand why anybody would want one of these over a 1080ti.  I understand they're less expensive and have a performance boost over the 1070's....but the 1080ti is still the best price per performance tradeoff despite its higher price.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: yangshenglu on October 30, 2017, 12:58:38 PM
What is this?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Dovaogedys on October 30, 2017, 05:20:15 PM
I already have one here. Eager to test it now.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Boathouse on October 30, 2017, 05:37:08 PM
I already have one here. Eager to test it now.

That is early than expected.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: crazydane on October 30, 2017, 06:00:34 PM
Nice setup  crazydane. Temperatues looking good and also the efficiency across the board. How much is that water cooling solution consuming energy wise?

The D5 PWM pump consumes maybe 12w at 1.5 gpm flow rate.  The 120mm fans on the radiator only consume 0.6W each at 1600 RPM (Noctua NF-F12 PWM).  So the water cooling add a whopping 14.4 watts to the power consumption of that rig.   I'm adding a 2nd 480 rad to get the temps down in the 30's as my ambient to coolant differential is rather high right now (about 20 degrees C where it should be more like 2 degrees). 


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: P4ndoraBox on October 30, 2017, 06:17:44 PM
I already have one here. Eager to test it now.

You already have it ? Share your result.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: RealSwissMiner on October 30, 2017, 07:23:54 PM
Nice setup  crazydane. Temperatues looking good and also the efficiency across the board. How much is that water cooling solution consuming energy wise?

The D5 PWM pump consumes maybe 12w at 1.5 gpm flow rate.  The 120mm fans on the radiator only consume 0.6W each at 1600 RPM (Noctua NF-F12 PWM).  So the water cooling add a whopping 14.4 watts to the power consumption of that rig.   I'm adding a 2nd 480 rad to get the temps down in the 30's as my ambient to coolant differential is rather high right now (about 20 degrees C where it should be more like 2 degrees). 

Cool, sounds interesting. Thanks for sharing, appreciated!


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: pfft on October 31, 2017, 07:22:12 AM
I already have one here. Eager to test it now.
Any update?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: aws-premium on October 31, 2017, 09:04:12 AM
I already have one here. Eager to test it now.

Sharing is caring, what about the Results of your Test? ;)


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Dovaogedys on October 31, 2017, 02:14:10 PM
First results are in for GTX 1070Ti:
Stock @ 465 sol/s
Stock @ 26,6 MH/s

Clocked @ 515 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 190W.
Clocked @ 32,0MH/s

Model tested: GV-N107TGAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N107TGAMING-8GD#kf


Comparing with GTX 1070:
Stock @ 440 sol/s
Stock @ 26,5 MH/s

Clocked @ 465 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 150W.
Clocked @ 31,8 MH/s

Model tested: GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1070G1-GAMING-8GD-rev-20#kf

Have a good day :)


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: ZenFr on October 31, 2017, 02:37:54 PM
First results are in for GTX 1070Ti:
Stock @ 465 sol/s
Stock @ 26,6 MH/s

Clocked @ 515 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 190W.
Clocked @ 32,0MH/s

Model tested: GV-N107TGAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N107TGAMING-8GD#kf


Comparing with GTX 1070:
Stock @ 440 sol/s
Stock @ 26,5 MH/s

Clocked @ 465 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 150W.
Clocked @ 31,8 MH/s

Model tested: GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1070G1-GAMING-8GD-rev-20#kf

Have a good day :)
Thank you for sharing.
These resultsare bad, very bad (at stock...).
Approximatively 6% more with Equihash... only with +25% in cuda cores and much power consumption.
The same result or even less with Dagger-Hashimoto and ever muche more watts burned.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: P00P135 on October 31, 2017, 02:40:45 PM
First results are in for GTX 1070Ti:
Stock @ 465 sol/s
Stock @ 26,6 MH/s

Clocked @ 515 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 190W.
Clocked @ 32,0MH/s

Model tested: GV-N107TGAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N107TGAMING-8GD#kf


Comparing with GTX 1070:
Stock @ 440 sol/s
Stock @ 26,5 MH/s

Clocked @ 465 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 150W.
Clocked @ 31,8 MH/s

Model tested: GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1070G1-GAMING-8GD-rev-20#kf

Have a good day :)

Thanks for taking the time to test them.  Hopefully they hash faster than this though  :-[


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: flip4flop on October 31, 2017, 02:48:37 PM
Yikes based on this I am happy I didn’t preorder. Hopefully that’s not the average results. I will have to jump on some of the price dropped 1070s if this seems to be the overall results.  The question I guess now becomes to jump up to the 1080 ti or not. Hopefully some more results for 1070 ti start rolling in with higher hash rates. I was really expecting more overall gains from the 1070s.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: PranDoW on October 31, 2017, 02:58:55 PM
In my country GTX 1070ti gonna cost more expensive as usual. Not sure that I gonna buy them right now I am alright with my 1070


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: laineux on October 31, 2017, 03:15:33 PM
First results are in for GTX 1070Ti:
Stock @ 465 sol/s
Stock @ 26,6 MH/s

Clocked @ 515 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 190W.
Clocked @ 32,0MH/s

Model tested: GV-N107TGAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N107TGAMING-8GD#kf

Very disappointed :(
That is the exact model I preordered...

What clock timings have you used ?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: pfft on October 31, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
in my country right now 1070ti and 1080 have the same price....what should i buy ?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: laineux on October 31, 2017, 03:43:31 PM
in my country right now 1070ti and 1080 have the same price....what should i buy ?

1080 are bad to ETH mining


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: RealSwissMiner on October 31, 2017, 07:56:50 PM
This are rather disappointing first results. Thanks for sharing let's see what other can achieve with it.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: cryptofriendz on October 31, 2017, 08:13:06 PM
First results are in for GTX 1070Ti:
Stock @ 465 sol/s
Stock @ 26,6 MH/s

Clocked @ 515 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 190W.
Clocked @ 32,0MH/s

Model tested: GV-N107TGAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N107TGAMING-8GD#kf


Comparing with GTX 1070:
Stock @ 440 sol/s
Stock @ 26,5 MH/s

Clocked @ 465 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 150W.
Clocked @ 31,8 MH/s

Model tested: GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1070G1-GAMING-8GD-rev-20#kf

Have a good day :)

wow, pretty disappointing. Or just keep getting the 1070 in the first place!


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: bigjee on October 31, 2017, 09:02:48 PM
First results are in for GTX 1070Ti:
Stock @ 465 sol/s
Stock @ 26,6 MH/s

Clocked @ 515 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 190W.
Clocked @ 32,0MH/s

Model tested: GV-N107TGAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N107TGAMING-8GD#kf


Comparing with GTX 1070:
Stock @ 440 sol/s
Stock @ 26,5 MH/s

Clocked @ 465 sol/s and Power consumption is around 150W.
Clocked @ 31,8 MH/s

Model tested: GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1070G1-GAMING-8GD-rev-20#kf

Have a good day :)

Thanks for the results!
Just a question. I have the GTX 1070 G1. And it idles at 180w with PL 100%. Can you confirm the wattage please.
Just curious how you are measuring the watts.
Seems like it doesnt idle at 150 unless I reduce the PL in Afterburner to 75% or so.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on October 31, 2017, 09:33:00 PM
Memory Bus:   256 bit

LAME! VERY LAME NVIDIA!

I agree, there is stagnation in this regard... where are the 512 or 1024 bit memory bus?

Yeah look at Vega 56 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2993/radeon-rx-vega-56 Almost 10 times the memory bus for the same price.

 and one HECK of a lot lower memory CLOCK RATE.

 It's not all about the bus width, it's about the width TIMES the clock.

 Why would NVidia put a wider bus on a mid-range card than they put on the 1080ti or the TITAN?
 Expecting 512 bit bus on this card would be STUPID.



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on October 31, 2017, 09:34:27 PM
Yay, let's preorder a card that nobody has any idea how it performs. I'm going to wait for verified results before I pull the trigger.
I pulled the trigger on ONE because I figure it should at least be comparable on a hash/$ basis vs the 1070/1080/1080ti based on the publishes specs for Equihash mining.

 It it turns out to be a particularly good ETH miner, that's an "unexpected bonus".



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on October 31, 2017, 09:35:50 PM
The same memory than 1070 and 25% cores more.
It should be a fantastic and polyvalent GPU to mine all type of coins

TDP 180W

 Standard TDP for the 1080, and quite a few higher-end 1070s are also 180 watt TDP.
 MSI makes a 1070 with a 240 watt TDP, but that thing is extreme overkill and I've never been able to push mine HARD enough to get to that power level.



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on October 31, 2017, 09:38:09 PM
I am seeing in instagram, EVGA, X8LR, PNY and a few other suppliers all are offering it in pre order for 449 USD price. While you guys complain a smaller memory compared to RX Vega 56 keep in mind this in performance is between 1070 and 1080 so a bit more than 1070 and a bit less than 1080. For that price new it seems the correct price to me, hopefully when this hits the markets on early November the price of 1060 falls down even more as I have been saving some money to buy 2 or 3 of 1060 for my mining activity.

 Watch shipping charges - when I looked to preorder one from EVGA, shipping was going to kick the price up HIGHER than I ended up paying Newegg for the SAME CARD.

 Might be different if you preorder more than one at a time.



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on October 31, 2017, 09:40:11 PM
The question I have is when the next card is going to come out.  I guess that would be the 1090?

Probably "Nvidia 20 Series" is next

 I give it 50/50 on "Nvidia 11xx series" or "Nvidia 20xx series".

 Most likely sometime first half of next year, from what I recall of the more recent NVidia announcements.

 Given their current domination of AMD pretty much across the board in their PRIMARY market (gamers), I don't see them feeling a need to move anytime sooner.



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: pfft on October 31, 2017, 10:38:31 PM
in my country right now 1070ti and 1080 have the same price....what should i buy ?

where do you live please ? usa ? north america ? i need to know cuz i want to buy on of these card.
Romania


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Ryuh on October 31, 2017, 10:58:46 PM
Thanks for sharing the testing results, they are disappointing for some people, but based on the tech specs i'm not surprised.
The card is made to battle Vega 56 on the market and that is it. Do you think nvidia will put a card that will challenge somehow 1080Ti for a lower cost?
I dont see that to happen like ever. The next big nvidia card that will topple 1080ti will be more expensive that 1080ti msrp for sure.
Maybe if AMD put something that is superior to 1080ti, the new nvidia card it will happen sooner, but by the looks of it we have to wait next year when Volta arrives.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: lunobird on October 31, 2017, 11:50:25 PM
Now I'm thinking of canceling my 1070 ti orders and go for a 1080ti.  I would like to see more test results though to confirm this.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on November 01, 2017, 07:34:01 PM
Found this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymO2VeIA8hc

shows 1070ti is doing 58Mh in eth mining .

is it true ?

 Total fake, given that Bitcoin Gold still isn't mineable RIGHT NOW (but should be later today).

 We saw some of the same lies about a "driver mod" a month or two back using the 1070.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2127840.0;all


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Vann on November 01, 2017, 07:40:05 PM
Now I'm thinking of canceling my 1070 ti orders and go for a 1080ti.  I would like to see more test results though to confirm this.

Pretty good deal for a ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP Extreme Core. Much better than an overpriced 1070 Ti

$700 w/code EMCBBRB29 and a free game.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-500-423


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: P4ndoraBox on November 01, 2017, 10:59:07 PM
My 1070 TI is now shipped.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: flip4flop on November 02, 2017, 12:06:00 AM
Now I'm thinking of canceling my 1070 ti orders and go for a 1080ti.  I would like to see more test results though to confirm this.

Pretty good deal for a ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP Extreme Core. Much better than an overpriced 1070 Ti

$700 w/code EMCBBRB29 and a free game.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-500-423

My finger is on the order button just have yet to pull the trigger.  Still have few hours to decided. 


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Vann on November 02, 2017, 12:26:18 AM
Now I'm thinking of canceling my 1070 ti orders and go for a 1080ti.  I would like to see more test results though to confirm this.

Pretty good deal for a ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP Extreme Core. Much better than an overpriced 1070 Ti

$700 w/code EMCBBRB29 and a free game.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-500-423

My finger is on the order button just have yet to pull the trigger.  Still have few hours to decided. 

Zotac AMP Extreme are awesome cards. I have 1070 and it overclocks like a beast while running cooler than any card i've seen. It hardly ever goes to 60C. BBT did a review on the 1080 Ti

https://youtu.be/1gk8Dc0o4MA?t=5285


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Pendrak on November 02, 2017, 12:30:48 AM
 GDDR5X

23 MH/s stock
31 MH/s overclocked

For ZEC use a i guess?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: CjMapope on November 02, 2017, 12:32:58 AM
First results are in for GTX 1070Ti:
Stock @ 465 sol/s
Stock @ 26,6 MH/s

Clocked @ 515 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 190W.
Clocked @ 32,0MH/s

Model tested: GV-N107TGAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N107TGAMING-8GD#kf


Comparing with GTX 1070:
Stock @ 440 sol/s
Stock @ 26,5 MH/s

Clocked @ 465 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 150W.
Clocked @ 31,8 MH/s

Model tested: GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1070G1-GAMING-8GD-rev-20#kf

Have a good day :)

damn, thats kinda dissapointing, but i will await to see how mine do here.
I saw an article that said the best binned ones went into the ROG AG8 1070ti's, so i ordered them, hopefully see better results mining...
Thanks for sharing man, ill be waiting a bit to grab a few more till more benches are posted now i think :(


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: kirilvvbg on November 02, 2017, 03:34:47 AM
First results are in for GTX 1070Ti:
Stock @ 465 sol/s
Stock @ 26,6 MH/s

Clocked @ 515 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 190W.
Clocked @ 32,0MH/s

Model tested: GV-N107TGAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N107TGAMING-8GD#kf


Comparing with GTX 1070:
Stock @ 440 sol/s
Stock @ 26,5 MH/s

Clocked @ 465 sol/s and Power consumption is arround 150W.
Clocked @ 31,8 MH/s

Model tested: GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1070G1-GAMING-8GD-rev-20#kf

Have a good day :)

Confirmed... Disappointing results, let's hope miners could be optimised... Cause at the moment it seems there is no difference between 16 and 19 compute units...


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on November 02, 2017, 04:38:24 AM
I keep struggling to understand why anybody would want one of these over a 1080ti.  I understand they're less expensive and have a performance boost over the 1070's....but the 1080ti is still the best price per performance tradeoff despite its higher price.

 In my case, I'm looking at "power limitations" of my infrastructure on the ASUS 19-slot and figuring I need ONE lower-power card to hang on the PS that also powers the MB/CPU/RAM/HDorSSD in the machine, while all the rest end up being 1080 ti cards.

 I've not had enough time to figure exactly HOW MUCH lower I need to go on power for that one card yet, so I figure getting ONE to figure out where it's going to end up at is a good idea ahead of time - and worse case it SHOULD be in the same ballpark as the rest of the 1070/1080/1080ti line for efficiency and hash/$.


 Keep in mind that the G1 Gaming is a very high end 1070 model with a 180 watt stock TDP (I've got a few of those myself)  - I'd like to see what setttings were involved on the posted hashrates OTHER THAN the power draw.



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on November 02, 2017, 04:43:03 AM
Over 10% hashrate higher is "no difference between 16 and 19 compute units"?

 What a STRANGE theory.


 I was predicting that this card would fall between the 1070 and 1080 on performance on ZEC - no shock there.
 It IS a bit lower than I was hoping for on ETH, apparently it is severely memory-limited - but no shock there too.



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: kirilvvbg on November 02, 2017, 08:25:09 AM
I meant no difference regarding Ethash.
Honestly, didn't still have time to check Equihash results, but I guess it should be like Dovaogedys already pointed.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on November 02, 2017, 12:24:28 PM
I meant no difference regarding Ethash.
Honestly, didn't still have time to check Equihash results, but I guess it should be like Dovaogedys already pointed.

 Given that AMD "good ETH mining cards" have dropped back under $300, why is anyone looking at a 1070 to mine ETH with anyway?

 1070 ti turning out to be equal to the 1070 is not exactly a big deal - and it was already known that the 1070 was probably memory-limited on ETH anyway, so it's not a shock.






Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: CarlosR on November 02, 2017, 07:18:02 PM

Hashrate GTX1070Ti = GTX1070  >:( >:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU2-SpgtISM


bad to mine.






Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: heavyarms1912 on November 02, 2017, 09:26:57 PM
ethhash rates should be more or less similar to gtx 1070 (unless the RAM overclocks better than gtx 1070)
Equihash and core bound might give better results but so goes the power consumption.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on November 03, 2017, 12:36:11 AM

Hashrate GTX1070Ti = GTX1070  >:( >:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU2-SpgtISM


bad to mine.



 ETH is not the end-all and be-all for mining.

 Being no better on ONE ALGORITHM does not make the card "bad to mine".



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: matasovic on November 03, 2017, 12:57:08 AM
I think that the price is little high for the overall improvements of the card, i think we agree on that ? But, on other hand we will get cheaper 1070, yaay


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: P4ndoraBox on November 03, 2017, 02:09:37 AM
Still not received my 1070 TI.

I'll probably receive it tomorrow.

I'll make some dagger, equihash, dagger-dcr and myriad groestl mining test. Stock and overclock.

Stay tuned.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on November 03, 2017, 04:36:57 AM
I think that the price is little high for the overall improvements of the card, i think we agree on that ? But, on other hand we will get cheaper 1070, yaay

 Cheaper 1070s are happening because folks aren't buying them as "can't get RX series mining cards, they're the next best option" any more, not due to the 1070 ti introduction.
 If anything, the 1070ti seems to be driving 1080 prices up a hair.

 Mine isn't due 'till Monday (EVGA SC model) - will play around with it some then post data (like I did in a couple threads about the Vega 56 I just got today that is happily Mooing bigtime).



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Lionidas on November 03, 2017, 04:56:39 PM

Hashrate GTX1070Ti = GTX1070  >:( >:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU2-SpgtISM


bad to mine.



Wasn't it already said that the 1070ti were just failed 1080's that Nvidia were just looking for a way to get rid of them.
So marketing just said slap a ti label on them and they will sell like hot cakes.

Fail if they mine the same as a regular 1070.
Fuck Nvidia man.
They suck to mine with anyways compared to AMD.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on November 03, 2017, 07:39:14 PM
I got an early delivery today - just spent an hour and some testing my new EVGA SC 1070 ti.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2324651.msg23996225#msg23996225

 In my personal experience, this is a new "efficiency" king for Equihash - and does AMAZINGLY well at fairly low TDP settings, though I don't understand why they underclocked the RAM by default.
 
 Definitely a better option for Equihash (ZEC/ZEN/ZCL and such) than the 1070 across the board, and better than the 1080 except for "raw highest-end max push hashrate" once you optimise the settings.

 This is NOT a good choice for ETH/ETC and such mining, it's memory limited and NO faster than the 1070.

 It was a THEORY (that available facts support) that the 1070 ti GPU might be 1080 GPUs with one failed "compute unit" - but it's a more widely mentioned theory that the 1070 ti is a direct response to the RX Vega 56 being slightly better than the 1070 while being cheaper than the 1080.
 (The theories are not incompatable - it could be BOTH, at least for the initial production run).

 Which reminds me of one test I forgot to do on my 1070 ti - the Dnet/Moo! test - where it should beat the 1080 and STOMP the 1070 on keyrate per $.


 (later add). Yup, 1070ti is a legit 6 gigakey/sec card there while the 1070 is a little better than 4 and the 1080 is a little better than 6 - and the same price range Vega 56 is capable of well over 8 while also staying under 100% TDP.
 Sorry Nvidia, no price-range performance crown for you on THAT project.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: P4ndoraBox on November 04, 2017, 05:05:05 PM
Hi guys.

I didnt forget you.

Ill officially receive my 1070 ti this monday.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Oakey22 on November 04, 2017, 05:37:02 PM
Been running mine since yesterday and they haven't missed a beat. Only trouble I have is windows not working when I have 5 connected so currently it is sat with 4 in the rig.

Can be overclocked +750 no problem and get 32.5Mh on Eth


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: P4ndoraBox on November 07, 2017, 05:22:39 PM
Hi everyone. I've finally received my 1070 TI from EVGA. The one with 2 pci power slot.

I'm testing it today and will share the result for you.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: gtxBitcoinGuy on November 07, 2017, 06:25:46 PM
Just got two Zotac 1070ti AMP Extreme and i am getting avg. 42MH on lyra2rev2 with bellow settings.

Code:
PL: 85%
CC: +115

Still no crashes. I will try to push it a little bit more later.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: heavyarms1912 on November 07, 2017, 09:07:45 PM
Been running mine since yesterday and they haven't missed a beat. Only trouble I have is windows not working when I have 5 connected so currently it is sat with 4 in the rig.

Can be overclocked +750 no problem and get 32.5Mh on Eth

what RAM chips you have on those?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: P4ndoraBox on November 08, 2017, 01:33:11 AM
Well... I have incredible result.

This is the 1070 TI I bought : https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487388&cm_re=1070_TI-_-14-487-388-_-Product

Myriad Groestl mining. ( You may calculate the difference compared to my 1060 6 go )


1060 6 go, overclocked at +130 cc and power limit to 75 = 51.5 MH ( Myriad Groestl only take CC in consideration )



1070 TI :

Stock : 86 MH

+142 cc = 91 mh

+192 cc = 92.3 MH

+275 cc = 95.5 MH ( Yes, + 275 Core clock )

+ 300 cc = power off

Power limit 75% + 270 CC overclocked ( sweetspot ) = 88.6 MH

Nvidia 1070 TI are doing 42% better than 1060 6 go

Price is 32 % higher.

You may need a bigger psu, or do dual psu since they need 2 x pci express power cords.

-----------------------------

Result : I'm really glad that I bought it and I'll build another rig with 1070 TI instead of 1060 for future resale value.

Have a good day :)



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: phuocduong on November 08, 2017, 01:37:34 AM
profit 1070Ti, compare with 1080?


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on November 08, 2017, 07:47:24 PM
Quote
Price is 32 % higher.


 You OVERpayed for that model - NewEgg had a "Newegg as seller" listing for it at $499 - and the ICX models are more expensive anyway.
 Price on COMPARABLE models is less than 10% difference - like the EVGA SC 1070 at $439 vs the EVGA 1070 ti SC at $469.



Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Paractor on November 08, 2017, 07:49:49 PM
Quote
Price is 32 % higher.


 You OVERpayed for that model - NewEgg had a "Newegg as seller" listing for it at $499 - and the ICX models are more expensive anyway.
 Price on COMPARABLE models is less than 10% difference - like the EVGA SC 1070 at $439 vs the EVGA 1070 ti SC at $469.



If the price difference is less than 10%, 1070Ti is better.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: RealSwissMiner on November 08, 2017, 07:54:26 PM
Quote
Price is 32 % higher.


 You OVERpayed for that model - NewEgg had a "Newegg as seller" listing for it at $499 - and the ICX models are more expensive anyway.
 Price on COMPARABLE models is less than 10% difference - like the EVGA SC 1070 at $439 vs the EVGA 1070 ti SC at $469.



If the price difference is less than 10%, 1070Ti is better.

Agree. I have her often very similar prices for both 1070 versions, which makes the choice obvious.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: P4ndoraBox on November 09, 2017, 07:35:40 PM
I have compared 1060 6go with 1070TI

Not 1070 and 1070TI.

It's ok, sometimes I don't take the time to read a thread carefully and I'm getting angry easily too when it's question to save 20$ on my payroll :P


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on November 09, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
I have compared 1060 6go with 1070TI

Not 1070 and 1070TI.

It's ok, sometimes I don't take the time to read a thread carefully and I'm getting angry easily too when it's question to save 20$ on my payroll :P

 I wasn't replying to you - which isn't clear in MY comment as I borked the quote.

 I was replying to someone talking about paying about $600 for a GTX 1070 ti and then using THAT overpriced card from a ripoff third-party seller on Newegg in a price comparison to a 1070 selling from Newegg itself.



 Not to say I've NEVER misread a post - but not the case THIS time.

 9-)


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: P4ndoraBox on November 11, 2017, 09:57:22 PM
I have compared 1060 6go with 1070TI

Not 1070 and 1070TI.

It's ok, sometimes I don't take the time to read a thread carefully and I'm getting angry easily too when it's question to save 20$ on my payroll :P

 I wasn't replying to you - which isn't clear in MY comment as I borked the quote.

 I was replying to someone talking about paying about $600 for a GTX 1070 ti and then using THAT overpriced card from a ripoff third-party seller on Newegg in a price comparison to a 1070 selling from Newegg itself.



 Not to say I've NEVER misread a post - but not the case THIS time.

 9-)



Aaaaaaaaaah I see ! I understand now xD


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Dovaogedys on November 11, 2017, 11:00:41 PM
Any new testing results?  :)


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: davecoin on November 12, 2017, 12:25:17 AM
Zotac 1070 ti Mini, 65% power limit, +150 core, +500 mem: 490.4 Sol/s, 4.22 Sol/W

miner: zm 0.5.4


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Dovaogedys on November 12, 2017, 02:01:39 AM
Zotac 1070 ti Mini, 65% power limit, +150 core, +500 mem: 490.4 Sol/s, 4.22 Sol/W

miner: zm 0.5.4

Those are fine results, but wish you could get a little more. Cheers, mate.  ;D


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: Paractor on January 26, 2018, 09:40:36 PM
Zotac 1070 ti Mini, 65% power limit, +150 core, +500 mem: 490.4 Sol/s, 4.22 Sol/W

miner: zm 0.5.4
I don't know what the difference is between the minis and the regular two fan 1070ti
but they must be better performers than the 1060 6gb.


Title: Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com
Post by: QuintLeo on January 27, 2018, 09:14:02 PM
The Zotac "mini" cards are smaller than most others - ballpark 8" long where the Gigabyte "ITX" and MSI "Aero" shorty cards are less than 7" (EVGA also makes shortie cards but nothing higher than a 1060) and most cards are 10" more or less.

This limits how much heat sink CAN be put on the cards, so they don't cool quite as well as "full length" cards of the same GPU model generally do, though they DO cool better than some full-size BLOWER design cards do.