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Anyone care to speculate on how many trolls exist on bitcointalk now? Seriously it's like every time I read a thread now someone is posting rude, obscene, smart ass, are competitive product posts in other people's threads and items for sale posts.

Feel free to vent your frustrations here.

Welcome to a bitcoin bear market :P.

I have seen a few around and it is a lot less mature than I expect people should be here.

I don't like this either, report it when you see it, it's off topic.

Yeah me 2!
Where's Smoothy anyway?
and I actually mis proudhon sometimes. Dude even got his own song and all and now he's gone...

On a serious note, the bear is on and people need to vent their frustrations. I don't mind trolling as long as their posts have some substance.
The thing that annoys me most is the increasing number of trolls without any fundaments in their trolls... uhh... posts

I agree it's like dude if you owned a jewelry store and went across the street to another jewelry store trying to sell your items to their customers what do you think would happen?

On trade's lending topic a bunch of people were flaming his terms and calling him a scammer. I think it is up to customers to decide whether they trust him or not, I don't see any actual reports on him for scamming.

What do you mean, the people who post utter nonsense, complete bullshit, irrelevant, and smart ass posts aren't your favorite? ....... Yeah me either. It's like at least put some thought, logic or god forbid a few facts into your post.

There is a Scam label maybe a SPAM label would also be appropriate. That way all the noobs and even more veteran members would know not to waste there time with the nonsense they would just go "oh spam guy, right, cool post brah"

Hahaha.

That could be useful or just a ban.

Free market, man, free market.

Yeah but its not right for someone to just jump into someones topic before a customer buys and say they'll offer a better deal. A lot of scammers could do this.

That's just your morals speaking. A new dawn arrives.  Let go of the morals and rules. Trust in the market. The coins will enlighten the path. Thus speaketh Satoshi.

So what would happen in the scenario I suggested? Do you think it would end well? What about other examples like do you see Gap employees in American Eagle stores? Or McDonalds employees at Burger Kings?

It's called class and respect. If people are looking to buy they will find the best option for their purchase.

Sounds pretty statist to me.

How so? Because we would like people to operate with some class? Some respect? It's only because this is a forum that allows users to post comments. In any other situation this would not be an option. If this were to happen offline and in a public setting I'm sure it wouldn't end well.

I used to manage a night club a long time ago and a competing night club sent there bouncers in to try and recruit our bartenders. You know what happened? I will tell you moderators, police, government etc had no part in the fact that the owner sent our bouncers to feed their bouncers their own teeth.

It is a free market, however this is not a public forum and when the OP has no recourse it's bullshit. Period.

Free market my ass.

Free market means you have right to open your thread and customers will chose where to buy, not that you can come in my tread to advertise your product!

And I'm not advocating violence or even saying I participated I am merely saying that is how the owner I worked for chose to respond. I'm sure others have felt the same urge.

Thank you gentlemen. I hope we all learned something from this, namely how easy it is to troll BTCTalk.

And thus the question becomes: Who is really the problem here? The troll smelling an easy target or the easily trolled target? I'd wager to say, the later.

It happens, many major companies have been found to post reviews about website claiming they are scamming or unreliable. It's a known fact that it works, and discourages potential buyers.

As much as I hate it, it's going to continue to happen.

No, I'm not advocating or threatening I stated that already though.

Oh and it's "you're" ...... See that is an example of trolling. When you have nothing better to say just attack.

Think of a sales/auction thread like someone's store. You wouldn't go into someone else's store to try and gain customers and that store wouldn't let you advertise there. So stay out.

One is mad

I stated I'm sure it wouldn't end well based on past experience of what I've seen. Further in thread I specifically mentioned that I wouldn't nor do I advocate violence. I forgot you live in NYC and everyone there clearly handles things calmly and professionally. You've never seen things like this "not end well"

It's always been that policy here, so since people are using this forum and not another, that would mean the free market has decided already.



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I never said it wasn't allowed. I said it was rude and pretty shitty. not to mention insulting. However the moderator who posted here said it was "off topic" so I guess it's not allowed.

I said it wasn't allowed, I'm the moderator who posted here earlier as well. I was responding to gweedo's assertion that it's hindering the free market when we don't allow people to spam others business threads, when if you actually follow that train of thought to the end, it would actually be the result of a free market. 

I think you've been smoking too much of that free market chronic  ;).

Dammmmnnnnn you Silkroad!!!!!!

Haha J/K

I know it is the policy, and I know it is that the free market has decided about this forum. I am just saying it does hinder the free market.

Do me a favor take three pairs of Jeans from American Eagle or any store of your choice, go stand inside the Gap and try and sell them. Let me know the results of your "Free market" test.

You just told me to steal! WOW dude stop I am not committing crimes for you. Also this is the internet, very different. I think if my site is better than the site advertising that is my opinion until the free market decides. I don't see a problem with it ad on a another thread, about another service that maybe even better.

The thread starter can make it a self-moderated thread.  Problem solved.

You're an idiot.

If a person starts a thread to sell or auction their belongings or services you shouldn't be trolling that thread and posting competitive products or services in that thread. That's what we are talking about. Go make a different thread with your product. Post it in your signature line etc. but do not troll competitors threads and market your products/services in their thread.

And this thread was started to vent your frustrations about people posting FUD, nonsense, bullshit not backed by facts, people posting competitive products in their competitors threads etc. it was not started for people to troll it and post rebuttals.

Thanks for stoping BYE

When was the last time you saw a Pizza Hut flyer inside of a Sbarro? Do you see Windows 8 brochures inside an Apple store? Okay well then let's not "market" on other people's sales threads. That's their "store" not yours, and not a public place for you to "market"

I love how quickly a topic mood changes. It was a nice friendly chat with us putting out our OPINIONS, but then it turns into a punch up.

This isn't brick and morar, first off marketing doesn't work like that cause when your in a store, you either go their for a reason or they draw you in. So Kinda is pointless to market inside a store. On a forum it is different, this is helping people make decisions. Can you please launch a company in the same space as me in month I would love to see whose will succeed and whose will fail. I can say my would be 100x better thans yours any day of the week just cause of marketing.

Yeah it was nice and friendly cause no one had an opposing view, once that happens everyone is angry. Can't control yourselfs or something?

Why don't you just take a pic of yours, I will take a pic of mine we can post them and see whose is bigger and this will all be settled.

Well, I am Irish though so ...... Maybe this wasn't the best idea I've ever had.

Dude it's called common courtesy not to post your for sale sign in someone else's sale thread. Market all you want, post ads, buy signatures, use google Adwords, post Facebook ads, by email addresses, SEO, twitter feed, send out free samples to be rated and reviewed, and on and on and on. BUT DO NOT POST YOU'RE "IM SELLING THIS TOO" in someone else's thread that is offering same item for sale. There is a reason why it's not allowed here.

Name three other places online that will allow you to go on someone else's sale thread and post your items for sale. eBay? Bitmit? Amazon? Any?

A moderator already said they will delete posts marketing in other peoples' threads. Imagine if you made a thread selling and the first five replies were competitors offering other/better deals.

Free market, that is what it is called. If people can do that, then your prices weren't competitive to start.

The idea is that this is a forum for communicating about Bitcoin FIRST.  If all threads devolve into everyone out-advertising each other then the forum will become MORE useless than it is now.

I guess I thought that a user could moderate their own threads, if they are so created that way to begin with.  Doesn't that make this a moot point?

Again, it's not marketing, it's just pure asseholery.

For every customer you gain, many more will blacklist you forever.

Asshole.

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Thanks for making all your points invalid by just name calling.



No cause if your competitive then it shouldn't happen.

I actually like you Gweedo. Many people always say oh you have to be super smart, a nerd or computer geek to understand Bitcoin and figure out how to "use" it. But then you come along and remind us that intelligence is not a factor.

I hate trolls...

Why do you have just attack? Did run out of logical arguments to prove your point?

Why should I respect someone who has no respect for others?

Just cause I employ a certain method for marketing makes me not have any respect LMAO you probably have a hard time finding work then.

Anyway, you are clearly the troll in this situation, I have done nothing but respected you and your opinion and actually explained my reasoning, but you just think calling someone names makes you automatically smarter and better. That really isn't how it works. But keep thinking that. ;)

I will not get in too a pissing match with you on this one. All I will say is that I have been very fortunate in my endeavors and am very thankful for it.


How so? This is my thread.


I understand that's not how this works. I have a very different opinion of how things should be done. Respect goes a long way and I believe is what has contributed to my success thus far in my life. I think it was said best that "for every customer you pick up you will lose 10".

I still for the life of me can not understand your mentality. Maybe you can break it down for me in a different way because I honestly think their is a misunderstanding here.

Example-
I sell Casascius Coins.
I start a thread stating that I am selling Casascius Coins.
It is my sales thread that I started for the product I am offering for sale.
(this is where I want to make sure I understand you)
You feel it is okay to come on that thread and post that you are also selling casascius coins and anyone looking for them should look at your thread?

If that is what you are saying then I very much disagree with your mentality. That is not advertising, marketing or any other term that would make what you are doing sound okay. It is disrespectful, conniving, makes you look like a snake. As I said before just because this is the internet does not give you the right to troll other peoples sales thread to post competing items in said thread.

Now posting your items or referring to your items in general public threads, posting info in your signature, buying legitimate ad space etc. is all fine. By all means, please do. 

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i sell any day 1000 or 6000 bitcoins [aka buble scene bear hunting]

load my mybank.ru more 10000k or 10kk every day week

not need people say what you do or not do to be true FUCK

right on

This wins!

There is one too many here but they exist everywhere.. its the internet.