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    Whatever your hash rate is, all current pools will give you more or less the same results. With Triplemining.com we offer you the possibility to triple your results by a clever minipool system. As soon as two of your friends (with equal or superior hash rate to yours) mine with us too, you increase your BTC mining income dramatically.
(your friends do not need to have more hashrate then you, but the better the more you make!)

    With bitcoin mining, pool hash rate (= speed), mining difficulty and a little bit of luck play a central part. Big pools can be depressing, especially if your hash rate is not that great while too small pools with a streak of bad luck leave you with some kind of a stomachache.

    To counter this, Triplemining aims to bring together a medium-sized pool with no fees and clever redistribution of 1% of every found block to allow your share to grow more rapidly than on any other bitcoin mining pool.

   How do we achieve this?

For every found block, we redistribute a share of the 1% fee to all minipool owners (people with 1 or more friends mining with them). The redistribution is connected to the shares found by your friends, not yours! So if the hash rate of your friends equals or is bigger than yours, your part in the redistribution will be equally bigger.

For every found block we increase our jackpot by the remaining part of the 1% fee (after minipool owners have been rewarded). Once per week the jackpot is paid-out, randomly connected to the find of a block, to one miner active at the moment of the find.

   By doing this Triplemining is virtually fee-free.

    If you're not convinced yet, let us add this to change your mind
    Statistically everyone has the same procential chance of finding a block, the only variable is time. Although time can be a psychological factor in considering what pool to mine with, the results are the same all over. A new pool is no different in that respect.

    With Triplemining.com however, we offer you a chance to virtually increase your hash rate with every friend you add to your minipool. In addition your bitcoin mining with us can be rewarded on a weekly basis with our jackpot. So in a way, the fact that we are small and new is an asset. If you are looking for better rewards and bigger share participation, Triplemining.com is the way to go.

Please feel free to try it out!

Im in.
now im mining @ Triplemining.com (https://bitcoin.triplemining.com/register)   8)

Lol :P

Note:you can only win the jackpot when mining ..

I am but my mining is a bit slow.. ;)
at least i have a better chance than with other pools i tried

If you manage to add a few people with 6990 cards below you, you could get 1btc a day :)

OK.someone with 6990 cards [anything will do..] please try this new mining pool:: ;D bestpool.triplemining.com (https://bitcoin.triplemining.com/register)

Ok I have a build with a 6990 right now, set up for mining on deepbit.  I am not a mining genius especially with the codes.  I will join as someones friend just help me set it up to now do it with that pool.  I have another 6990 on the way as well to mine in quadfire. Right now I am making about 1.5 bitcoins every 2 days.

sounds a bit like pyramid to me


Jen

I'll help you out... What kind of mining software do you use ?

Did you allready register on the site ? Once you did that you will have to create a worker.

Sure, and if you don't use a pool, you could get 50BTC in a minute. It's just incredibly unlikely.

I predict that this pool will fill with suckers with very low hash. Why? It's the same reason MLM schemes usually fail. People hope to bring in a few friends who will do the real work. They try to bring in a few friends who will do the real work. The people doing the real work don't want to give up even 1% to people who aren't doing real work if they don't have to. So they won't join this pool.

That said, something halfway in-between solo mining and pooled mining might be cool. Say, for each block found, 50% goes to the miner who found it and pay per share at half the going rate. Or 50% goes to the miner who found it and the other 50% is split based on shares.

Well, people doing the real work could add other below them as well ?

Either way, both of them have a chance of winning the jackpot, it still is a matter of luck, but there are odd's that you don't even have on other pools

I would contribute 4-5Ghash/s to this idea...

Contribute 4-5Ghash to triplemining and i could set something like that up for you ?

Cool, been looking for a backup pool and I love incentives to mine - signed up :)

Cool :)

Good luck with the jackpot!

Now showing the active miners count, next to the Ghash.

We also got over 10Ghash in only 10 hours after launch!



Happy mining, and be sure to invite your friends.

sofar noone joined under me  :( and i was like first one registered there..sigh

mmm could you register under me? ;D i would give you back 50% of that 1%..

Any chance you can make the site smartphone friendly at some stage? No biggie as I'm sure you have enought to keep you busy atm but perhaps when you get time you may want to look into it?

I'm currently working on the iPad and iPhone versions (should be live tomorrow). What other devices should i support ?

I am also working on a 'notification system' that sends an email to users when the last share submit of a miner is > X minutes.

Android please  ;D

Do you guys think that i should create a page where you can see who has the most 'friends' in his minipool and stuff like that ?
Or a page that shows the users hashrate ?

I'm not sure if that is personal information or not and i should show it...


Anyway: The jackpot is not that far off now :) be prepared to win 0.5 Bitcoins !

NOTICE: there are still users with no bitcoin address configured, if you do not have an address i cannot payout the jackpot to you!

Hmm..I think that might put new users off joining...



better :)

So if I join under someone else's referral code (me being under them) but I don't have anyone join under me, do I get an extra incentive by using this program?

There is always a jackpot, which is rewarded to one active miner.

And you can always create your own subpool, even if you have someone above you.

Which is easy enough to do too - I signed up earlier today and already have 1 person in my pool.

The jackpot fell!! More information on the site :

https://www.triplemining.com/jackpot

Alot of new registrations ! :)

Yea Ive got 10 people in my pool since signing up just 24 hours ago lol. Get onboard people & get yourself a pool happening!

tell me about that ;D

do you have some stats how many users already send at least 1 share?

68 .. keep in mind that the pool is only 48 hours old ..

Btw: The jackpot works in a way that only users that are currently mining have the chance of winning, that number is displayed top left on the site, so 32 right now.

I see. so only one of those who are mining at the time when Jackpot is hit. and that time is also random right?

Random but every 24h , and the last one was allready more then 12h ago, so only 12h left

I'll give it a try since I mine 24/7 anyways  ;D

Awesome :)

everyone is welcome, come on people, join us! :-)

correct, there are no blocks found yet
 I guess its the same with every pool and even solo mining. . payout is possible only after the block is found and you'll be payed out for your solved shares after validation.
this is some 2 days new pool currently running at 10 GHash/s+, its just matter of time until the block is found. your 2-3 Ghashes would certainly help us to achieve this goal faster ;)

The jackpot fell!

Submitting share at that time was from PandaMiner ... 0.5 BTC has been transferred to his bitcoin address ! :)

joined.
if anybody would like to join my pool:

https://eos666.triplemining.com/register

we may reach 11 GHash soon

We hit 12Ghash !

Panda happens to be the most dedicated 'hasher' in my pool atm so is a particularly deserving winner - congrats :)

Update:

GUIminer modified to work with Triplemining -> https://www.triplemining.com/img/gui.png

Download here -> https://shermans.triplemining.com/files/guiminer_triplemining.zip

Now opening a IRC channel as well on Freenode -> #triplemining

We are hit our 100 users mark a few hours ago, and are currently hashing away at 12, 13Ghash.

ill be sure to check it out

looks good maybe we can make it to the top 10 list soon :D

I wish I could find some people who would join through my sub-pool.. but im not giving up yet

so when can miners expect their first payout, after the first share has been solved?

my est. reward is 0.27378544599001 atm, but balance is still 0

as soon as we hit the first block, your balance will be updated accordingly.

I changed the "My pool" page, you can now change the name (and i suggest you do so, wall of fame coming up next)

+ Extra bonusses for minipool owners coming up!

Keep on mining!

Excellent job

I joined this adventure 1 days ago and at the moment I have 8 members in my minipool @ https://Krokodill.triplemining.com/
(Thanks ya'll!)

But something is not right. I am getting way too many Rejected hashes.  MrSam, can you explain why?

Funny you should post this. I was just about to post on this topic myself when I saw your post however I was about to post on how good the invalid rate is lol

In my case I have 2 x miners with a total of 15998 shares, and just 86 invalids!

What are you using as your miner flags?

I have 5 invalids over the last 24hours ... Since when are you mining Krokodill ? I did made some changes to improve things last night...

The flags I use in guiminer are -v -w128 -f60 -a1

-a1 increases the 'get' rate. Might be worth a try.

This is from Phoenix
From last stats,  this looks really bad: [21 Accepted] [24 Rejected]

This is from Diabolo:
| accept: 32 | reject: 20 |

and now I am running  poclbm-mod.py [Eff: 73%][I/S: 1][Emp: 33]

no problems with stales here running GUIminer
2828 accpepted/4 stale

already got one person on my minipool, keep comming guys!

I'm showing 24754 Shares accepted, 128 stales.

Best rate I've ever had at any pool.

Wupah,

The jackpot fell a few minutes ago :
https://www.triplemining.com/jackpot

0.5 BTC has been transferred to jdebunt

any idea when the first block will be solved?

I don't understad how to join a mini-pool. I tried to go to the register page of the pool, but i justget a new independent account. Please help me to understand this, or better: https://josell.triplemining.com/my_pool

Did you click someones referral link to get to the page? If not you wont have a cookie saved and so wont link to a pool.

. I click some referencial links, but when I registered, I get another independent account instead join a pool; I dont understand.

Ok, you will be in a pool but you are also now a pool 'owner' as well. So (and other members can correct me here if I'm wrong) you will only see those people you recruit (ie those that join your pool), but the owner of the pool you joined will still be able to see you. Hope this makes sense  :-\

I left mine running for the night and Rejected rate is bad.
Btw, I do not have this problem with any other pool (for example http://mining.bitcoin.cz).
I am going to get another card today too, so I can increase my mining  speed by 5x :)

PS! If you do not have your pool, join us:  https://Krokodill.triplemining.com

Thank you

If your using guiminer try a flag of -a1

I use Phoenix and I am not sure it has a setting similar to guiminer "-a1"  


Command line options
Phoenix arguments


-v (verbose) - Logs additional debug messages to the console. Default is disabled.

-q (queue size) - Sets the size of the internal work queue. Default is 1. This shouldn't need to be changed for most GPU miners.

-a (average samples) - Sets the number of samples to use for hashrate averaging. Default is 10. You might want to lower this for longer kernel execution times. (high aggression)

-u (URL) - Sets the URL of the work server. The correct protocol is selected based on the prefix (RPC for http://, MMP for mmp://)

-k (kernel) - Selects which kernel to load. Default is poclbm. All other arguments MUST come before specifying a kernel. Any arguments after -k are sent to the kernel.

I used -v option, to get more information

We have our first block!

Thanks for everyone that participated!

Up to block 2....

DiabloMiner-Windows.exe -u worker_login -p worker_password -o eu.triplemining.com -r 8344

1 block down, X million to go :)

First Block Party: so it's a fact, our first block has been found! To celebrate, we are giving away 10 BTC! The only requirement is that we reach 50 GHash/s before July, 5th 2011 and keep it up for at least 24 hours.

    Everyone can participate, minipools and solo miners.
    5 BTC will be distributed amongst everyone by counting the number of submitted shares (starting today July 2, 2011).
    5 BTC will be distributed amongst the TOP 5 minipools, 1 BTC for each team.
    The extra reward for the minipools is paid out to the team leader.

More information -> https://www.triplemining.com/pool_stats :)

aweoms news :) Triplemining is #1!

im not asking this because i dont trust the pool but because i genuinely dont know:

did everybody receive their payouts yet? my balance still states 0 , reward that needs validation is 0.38

sry if this is annoying, but i thought it only takes a few mins after a round to compute the payouts?

Sounds good created my mini pool at https://hateeecs.triplemining.com/register with a team name of ronpaul  :)  Please join!

Check the Block stats tab:

Block 134362   IMMATURE   50.0075   8 hours ago   668796    Needs 50 more confirmations

I believe mrsam is going to automate the process so its faster to pay out in future

Hej guys, i want to be as open as i can about this. When a block is found, i get a message as a pool owner that looks like this :
bitcoind@eu:~$ bit listtransactions
[
    {
        "account" : "",
        "category" : "immature",
        "amount" : 50.00750000,
        "confirmations" : 73,
        "txid" : "8997409318ca566fceed73bb4ac9d58979a25451c6ed047a39b1e7572e7d790f",
        "time" : 1309601162
    }
]

this proves that we found a block, but if i check my balance:
$ bit getbalance
0.00000000

The reason is that a block needs 120 confirmations before the balance is added to your account. (each time a block is found on the network is another confirmation.

Very big pools pay out the users immediatly when a block is found because they give the money up front (and they find 10 blocks an hour).

As soon as the pool grows a bit, we will also hopefully have some spare bitcoins to pay you faster, untill then it is the 120 confirmations rule (as on many other pools)

I could also put the money in your 'balance' but and not give you the ability to click the payout button, but that seems wrong, that is the reason we choose for the 'needs validation' option.

Here is an example:
User 1  registers on www.triplemining.com.
User 2 registers on user1.triplemining.com.

At this time user 1 will be able to see user 2 in the 'my pool' page. User 2 will see an empty list.

User 3 registers on user2.triplemining.com.

At this time user 1 will see user2 , and user2 will see user3 in his team. User 3 will see an empty list.


The reason for this is that we dont want a pyramid or ponzi story, every one is a pool owner. The only way to grow your pool is to have other users register under yourusername.triplemining.com, you will never see your 'parent'.

I hope this clears everything up ..

thanks! I understand. Im newbie in your pool; sorry.

I'm down, just registered. Should start contributing soon enough.

I myself just joined this and, it seems to have better payout then some of the other pools after running it a day or so, for my card at least hehe.

If' you'd like go join mine, register here: https://Nagios.triplemining.com/register

Thanks!! :P

User 1 is MrSam with a slow or non-existent miner
User 2-5 is Mr Sam's buddies that pay mr sam 1% of their shares,
user 6- are suckers that pay MrSam .5% and his buddies .5% of their shares,
more users are suckers that pay MrSam .3% and his buddies .3% and the previous people .3% of their shares...

See how it is shaped like a pyramid? With the bottom 80% paying a 1% fee to enrich the top? They pay .5 BTC per round to people who don't even have to mine any more. Deepbit makes 1.5 BTC a round for not mining though, so I guess it's not tragic.

The web site says something different than the top post about the payment structure, and neither give enough detail of the payment scheme to see how pyramid-y it is.

I don't think you really understand how it works. The workers under the 'owner' aren't giving up any of their earned share to said owner.
They just take in their hash work for that block and apply it to that 1% fee that they took and redistribute that 1% back to minipool owner's.

Seems like an interesting idea... mulling it over.

I've registered and started mining yesterday, this is interesting.

third block is almost complete guys, come on! :)

That's not how it works. The person you quoted got it right. You only get shares for those that directly joined your minipool.

I cant believe people think this is a scam...keep up the good work TripleMining!

sigh..

I guess plagarism is the best form of flattery...

Sounds like a very interesting idea. Joined.

Any Malaysians here?  ;D  Join the Malaysian Miners minipool (others welcome too!)

https://SlashOfSwords.triplemining.com/register (https://SlashOfSwords.triplemining.com/register)

welcome :)

Thanks a lot!  :)

Even if it's unfounded, bitcoin already gets too much flak for seeming like a pyramid scheme.  Isn't actually turning it into a pyramid scheme the last thing we need?

Keep in mind, the tech is solid, the only way to kill bitcoin at this point is through bad press.  We don't need more bad press.

I'm actually getting tired of having to defend triplemining from being called a pyramid scheme. We are one of the only pools that returns everything to the members, where you see some other pool owners running off with 3,4,5 % of the pool income (With deepbit leading this), and yet there nobody complains.

But the moment that you redistribute some of the pool income based on work, you are called a Ponzi schemer.

I really have nothing to gain by you joining or leaving, my income stays the same: 0 BTC.

im having connection problems since about 30 min (problem communicatiiong...)

I see nothing at all in the stats ? What errors are you getting ?

Lets hope this thread is not turning in to a real spam fest of JOIN MY POOL... Quak Quak! 

Oh, and forget all those previous post and invitations and shiny banners and what not... JOIN MY POOL! Quak Quak! ;)

 

Alright, so probably what's happening here is I just don't understand how this works.  How exactly are your % of the total hashes translated into payouts? What if you're the pool owner, what if you're hashing under someone, or if you're in the middle.  Also, don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone's calling this a Ponzi scheme, that's just something else.  But the description on the front page makes it sound... "pyramidy", maybe you just need to look at the wording. 

Another question though, you mentioned you give everything back to the workers and that your income stays at 0.  How do you plan to keep the site going?

I'm sorry for my last post, i had a bad day ;)

Let my try and explain this:

So, first of all, there is no middle, you only have one parent.

User1 registers , user2 registers below user1, user3 registers below user 2

-user1: gives away 1%(of his mining income) to his parent (this is the pool policy) and has no parent, this goes to the pool jackpot. (random winner, daily/weekly)

This user gives 1% to the pool, but get's more in return from his children

-user2 gives away 1%(of his mining income)  to his parent, in this case user1.
This user gives 1% to the parent, but get's more in return from his children

user3 gives away 1%(of his mining income)  to his parent, in this case user2
This user gives 1% to the parent, has no children. (but can get children at any time)


-- Conclusion:
- If you join and you plan on NEVER winning the jackpot than you might be better of at a 0% fee pool (not deepbit, thats 3% for the owner or 10% if pps)

- If you join and plan to bring even only one friend, you could recuperate the 1% fee, and have the possibility to make more then any other pool.

- Their are currently users actually making more then double then they would elsewhere, all you have to to is convice some friends to join you.

- If you register below someone or not, there is allways 1% if your mining income that goes back to the pool. (Jackpot or parent)

I can't believe how quick people are to complain about the fee redistribution... People would apparently rather have MrSam pocket the 1% rather than give it back to the miners. This system is awesome because even cpu miners can make some real BTC if they promote their link enough. Nobody is getting scammed here, everyone knows how the fee system works when they join; in most cases, that's why they join.

Awesome support :)

I have been a triplemining member for a week...wish we found more blocks though...only two blocks so far.

Hi ManOfKnight,

Thanks for being part of the experience and yes we are eager to get some blocks down. We just added a Block Quest Spirit Lifter reward on the site, to lift spirits abit. Hope this helps :)

Always available to help,

Zhora
Triplemining account manager

I'd join, if it weren't so damn hard to find some friends, let alone friends with capable PCs. 

Hi Kanti,

I wouldn't worry about that. First, mining on your own is fine too! And gives you the same access to our weekly Jackpot. Once signed up, you can advertise your triplemining address and start growing your own pool. It's just an added benefit :)

Well, it's not such a big problem, but really, I can't seem to be able to delete my worker. :-\

Fixed !

It's a bug that slipped in when setting up a system that disalows crossposting (as a security issue).. Amazing how this bug managed to stay around for a few days an nobody told be :/

I've tried it and
after 3 days on and off mining for 12 -18 hours ( about 40 hours) at a time mining  at 115Mhash it still says Estimated reward: 0.05775999 BTC

Until they fix all the issues with the pool and a way to contact them and such , I say stay a way from it. It's a waste of time and  cost you more  in the long run .

You and I can do better on other pools ...

sosad, we are still digging. If we find the block, you get your payout.

> Until they fix all the issues with the pool and a way to contact them

Fastest way is to join the #triplemining IRC channel (freenode)

I'm starting to lose members of my minipool, leaving due to our failure to find a block.  We better find one soon, otherwise TripleMining will be finished before it ever got a chance to get started.

well id be happy to keep mining but im having connection problems since 2 days

Considering today has been a weird day for deepbit and btc guild... also after a couple hours of reading. Me and a friend are devoting 1.4GH/s to triple, always in support of new ideas.

I'd much rather have my 100%, thank you very much.

I do appreciate the idea, however.

Upon request, I created a Triple Mining IRC channel (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26957.0).  Come join us for some chat!

Wouldn't a newer pool be less likely to find a block? I understand that it's pretty much luck, but the pool speed has to have a huge play in things. It seems like a pool with 50Gh/s would be mine a block faster than a pool with say 2Gh/s

True; but the pool with 2Gh/s would reward its miners with 25x the payout because there are less miners to divide the 50 BTC between.  Larger pools solve blocks more frequently but divide the block between a great number of people.  Smaller pools solve blocks less frequently but divide the block between smaller numbers of people.

Given enough time, everything averages out, but a smaller pools will have a higher variance than a larger pool (meaning you might make more BTC within a limited amount of time, but you might also make less).

Thanks, no offense taken. I think I may just switch over to triplemining, people are certainly embracing the idea.  I just have a couple things I wanted to clarify, since I haven't seem to have found a definitive answer.  

First, in that example... Nevermind, I saw you've already answered this question in another thread (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26550.0).

Also, where is your cut here MrSam? I mean the website is great, professionally designed, probably gets lots of traffic, and you've got no ads.  You're offering features that all the other pools charge for, but you only charge 1% (which can be earned back).  I don't know what the back-end for a mining pool requires, but I imagine you need to run some kind of central server to manage all the nodes, track stats, etc.  On top of all the setup costs there's the labor you're putting in and the risk you're taking by potentially attracting the kind of attention Deepbit and BTC Guild have been getting lately.  How do you plan to sustain it?  I get that your business model may be a kind of trade secret, so it's cool if you don't want to go into it, but that's the last part that seemed fishy to me.

Heh, I guess right now deepbit is kinda like the devil we know, they put their cut right on the front page, anyone can see where the catch is there ;-)

Seems like everything crashes when a new block is found.

Hopefully this hasn't already been asked (I read this entire thread, but I got tired of reading the thread at http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23663)...  What happens in a small pool like this if we find an invalid block?  I was thinking about (and doing a very little bit of) mining with triplemining, but I'd hate to see multiple days worth of estimated income disappear due to an invalid block.  One pool that I looked at stated that all shares would be counted toward the next block if an invalid block was found, which makes sense to me, but would make payouts look bad for the block following the invalid one due to the number ~doubled of shares.  On another pool, an appropriate donation % gets shares for invalid blocks paid, but that pool is so large that an invalid block barely affects me (although I donate anyway and have found that the invalid blocks seem to about equal the donations, which is unfortunate for the pool, but fortunate for me).

EDIT:  I forgot to include this thought in my original post...  I saw discussion about stale and rejected shares on the main thread mentioned above.  I also saw that features were being added based on discussion/requests fairly regularly.  Personally, wherever I mine, I would like to see counters for rejected and invalid shares along with counters for shares found.

I agree 100%.  I think MrSam can get this done, he's in charge of HTML.

Done

I'm not seeing it.  By done do you mean will do, or am I looking in the wrong place?  Also, since my edit took over my original post, what happens if this pool finds a block that is orphaned or invalid?

It's under the workers page.

Also, I was wondering for a long time... what's the difference between a "Stale", "Invalid", and a "Rejected" share? I know what a stale is. What are the other two?

I'm not sure, but I think there could be some terminology overlap or confusion.  I'm not sure if there is a difference between "stale," "invalid," and "rejected" shares, assuming all three even exist.  When I speak of "invalid," "rejected," or "orphaned" blocks, though, I'm talking about groups of shares, I'm saying when a block that a pool spent 5 days finding doesn't get confirmed, but considered whatever it is considered instead, then there is no payout, so our miners wouldn't get paid out for that block unless the pool itself ate the 49-50 (depending on whether or not they also paid the 1% to the jackpot/minipool owners) BTC loss.  Presumably a no fee pool can't possibly afford that kind of risk, so something should be documented regarding what will be done instead, it could help prevent negative word of mouth (or at least allow a defense to it) should TripleMining end up in such a situation early in its development.

I hear what you're saying. It just reminded me that I had a general question about stales vs other words.

well ive officially given up on triplemining.. have had "problems communicating with bitcoin RPC" for a week now and noone knows why

So you've talked to support and they've been unable to help?  Here's a clue for support: the communication problems seem to happen at the user level, for instance, I've seen my account have communication problems (and go to 0 h/s upon restarting the client) while the account of the user in my pool continued to function, the user in my pool has seen the same behavior when my account was functioning.  The best part is, due to my job, I also know that there is at least one major ISP on the Internet has been "unilaterally blocking traffic."  This comes from McAffe, but it could explain the issue if it were location -related and not account-related.  It would also explain why I have actually seen fairly regular trouble with at least three different mining pools lately.  DDoS attacks by someone anti-bitcoin would explain the same, though, so who knows.

support really tried but we werent able to find the cause.. other pools are working fine its just triplemining so i dont think its any traffic blocking unless they specifically block triplemining

can you try again one more time ? :/ i made some adjustments

looks like we have just found a block after solving mere 27244 shares !! anyone can confirm?

"Needs 92 confirmations"...   No, nobody can confirm, not until/unless our block is included in (or used by?) 92 more blocks...  I think that implies we already got 28 confirmations, though, which is a pretty good start.

nope.. still no luck sroy..

2011-07-15 13:15:20: Running command: poclbm.exe --user=eos666_1 --pass=xxxxxx -o eu.triplemining.com -p 8344 -d1 --verbose -v -w 128
2011-07-15 13:15:20: Listener for "Default" started
2011-07-15 13:15:24: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:24, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:25: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:25, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:26: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:26, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:28: Listener for "Default" shutting down
2011-07-15 13:15:34: Running command: poclbm.exe --user=eos666_1 --pass=xxxxxx -o eu.triplemining.com -p 8344 -d1 --verbose -v -w 128
2011-07-15 13:15:34: Listener for "Default" started
2011-07-15 13:15:35: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:35, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:36: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:36, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:37: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:37, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:38: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:38, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:39: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:39, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:40: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:40, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:42: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:42, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:43: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:43, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:44: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:44, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:45: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:45, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:46: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:46, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:47: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:47, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:48: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:48, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:49: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:49, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:50: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:50, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:51: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:51, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:52: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:52, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:53: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:53, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:54: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:54, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:56: Listener for "Default": 15/07/2011 13:15:56, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
2011-07-15 13:15:57: Listener for "Default" shutting down

Can I get a more detailed explanation of how the jackpot system works?  For instance, is it once per calendar week or once within 7 days after the previous jackpot falls?  I ask because we just found another block and it didn't fall.  The calendar week isn't over yet, but it has been almost 7 full days since the last jackpot (which was still promotional) fell, and if our luck changed, this block could take 5 days, which would even put us in another a new calendar week.

Dustin, Since the server is in a different time zone, I think we still need several hours before there being MORE than 7 days since last jackpot.  But I feel it's close.

And yes, we just found ANOTHER block only after 15 hrs.  This is getting good!

For the record, I wasn't implying that it has been more than 7 days.  I was implying that if the jackpot is tied to the find of the block and there are no more blocks found within 7 days that the jackpot wouldn't happpen within 7, and might not even happen within the calendar week falling after the last jackpot, this is true regardless of your definition of the calendar week because you never know whether the next block will be found in 25,000 hashes or 5,500,000 hashes, I have seen blocks take over 8,000,000 hashes.  Anyway, I'm not even suggesting there's a problem, I am just curious as to how it works, I mean, perhaps it drops when a random block is confirmed (as opposed to when a random block is found), or perhaps it drops at a random time altogether, but can tell who was mining when the block it randomly chooses to be connected to was found.

Hi all.

Im new to the forum and would just like to say I feel very fortunate to be mining with Triplemining. Ive been mining for around a month now with a different pool and in the last week ive moved to Triplemining and the move has been fantastic for me personally. I dont have huge hashing power yet ive made multiple coins in four days where in my previous pool I would have got this amount in over a week!!

Keep up the good work

Yeah, but last week was a doosey. (was a long time.. check the stats)

But cool. Glad to have you on board.

What does doosey mean haha????

I may not be spelling it correctly, but suffice it to say, that we had a period of 5½ days w/o hitting a block. Once we did, the shares weren't worth a lot. But we're making up for those days this week it seems.  Just don't get your hopes up of it being like this all the time.

Well, you could. But since you're new, you should wait a whole month before deciding for sure. :)

I totally agree with you there. I studied the stats and I see where you are coming from so maybe I just hit upon Triplemining at the right time. Lets hope not though. I like the layout of the site and the returns so far have been very good to me for my setup. A lot more than I was previously earning.

Today we have generated another 2 blocks but the current one is taking a while longer but thats the probability factor of bitcoin mining. You can get a quick block or a pig of one that takes for ever.

Just out of interest panda what hardware are you running??

I put my miner together out of old hardware I had laying about the place,

so im running a E7200cpu, foxconn x 48 motherboard with 2gb ram and 1 x 5870 and 2 x 5850's.

Its drawing 740w from the wall so in the uk its costing me like £2 to run and a coin is around the £8.40 mark at the moment so a canny profit.

Welcome :)  and thank you for helping us to grow.
OMG! You did join the wrong team ;)   

Oh, just a 6790 and a 6870. ~500mhps total.

Hej guys, can some of you connect to eu2.triplemining.com:8344 ?

ok i switched to eu2, running fine so far

Whats the benefit of moving to eu2 please??

i think the benefit is not crashing the server if we all stick to eu1 ;)

I dont know, i make nice with btcguild,

running at 24GHash  at the moment :), thinking going solo!!

WOW.

 Hasnt the hashing power of the pool really grown over the last couple of days. Word must be getting around that its a good pool.

Im gutted tho cos my miners all went down grrrr. Had a really bad thunder storm where I live and it knocked out the electric and ive been away for business and when I get back pc is switched off, just my luck.

I see the last block took a while to solve too, but thats bitcoin

I'm having trouble connecting to Triplemining, using GUIMiner 2011-07-01, I have tried using the 'Triplemining' setting in GUIMiner, and I have tried eu.triplemining.com:8344 and eu2.triplemining.com:8344. The problem I get is:

2011-07-19 09:09:54: Listener for "TM": 19/07/2011 09:09:54, Setting pool webs @ eu.triplemining.com:8344
2011-07-19 09:09:55: Listener for "TM": 19/07/2011 09:09:55, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC 0 2
2011-07-19 09:09:56: Listener for "TM": 19/07/2011 09:09:56, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC 1 2
2011-07-19 09:09:57: Listener for "TM": 19/07/2011 09:09:57, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC 2 2
2011-07-19 09:09:58: Listener for "TM": 19/07/2011 09:09:58, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC 3 2
2011-07-19 09:09:58: Listener for "TM": 19/07/2011 09:09:58, No more backup pools left. Using primary and starting over.

Mining works with deepbit, and I have tried disabling my firewall and that doesn't work. I'm looking forward to joining!

Please doube check the username and password that you use.
It must be the username and password of a worker you created , not your login to log on to the website...

Is there a known problem using Ufasoft's 'bitcoin-miner' for CPUs on Triplemining ? (Error 80190193)

I simply can not get it to connect due to an error, yet all my other workers connect fine without a problem.

I have tried different usernames etc with failure, then used those same usernames/worker login details for Video Cards without problems.

I can use the Ufasoft CPU miner on every other Pool I have connected to thus far (5 total) with only Triplemining giving me troubles.

Just to make sure, you use worker+password correctly, create a new worker and use that to connect.

BTW, you can get some fast help from our IRC channel too. Freenode has a #triplemining channel.
For web IRC client http://webchat.freenode.net/
 

I've tried numerous user/pass combinations that all fail on Ufasoft CPU miner, but work on my OpenCL Video Card miners......I have even taken existing WORKING user/pass's to try, but still fail with Ufasoft CPU miner (Error 80190193).

yea anyone with the problems communicating with bitcoin rpc error make sure your user/pass is correct i thought i couldnt connect for a week until i realized i had a wrong pw set!

CPU mining on TM doesn't work for me either. But it's so low hash (2mhps) that I don't care.

JSON api isn't showing the correct balance:

e.g.

When the value is really 0.16178106 or is that expected and I should be dividing by 100000000?

internally triplemining works at all places with satoshi's (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/FAQ#What_do_I_call_the_various_denominations_of_Bitcoins.3F), to prevent any bugs to appear due to floating point rounding.  So technically the result of the api is not wrong, it's just in a different format :)

I've been meaning to ask, why is the title to the thread now [NR 1] ? What does that mean?

I guess because it's the NR1 pool in the world ? ;)

Next jackpot estimate: 1.67776478 BTC and it winner will be selected in next 24h because 7 days are up.

Sign up and mine! (https://Krokodill.triplemining.com/register) :)

I think there should be an extra chance for long-time miners that are loyal to triplemining - dont know how you decide who gets the jackpot, but it shouldnt be hard to factor in how long the miners has been at the pool

I hope this it's someone from my minipool who wins the jackpot today:)

anyway. good luck everyone ;)

This could potentially discourage new members; it also goes against the original desire to keep it equal (some member wanted it to be weighted based on shares, but the owner(s)/founder(s) wanted everyone to have an equal chance).Does the 1% fee apply to the jackpot too?

winner gets the amount shown on the page:

and this weeks winner is:

Winner of the jackpot: rouhaud
Jackpot amount: 1.67776478 BTC

congrats :)

The jackpot fell ... Winner : rouhaud from "Team France"

its just thast ive noticedthat at least one person in my minipool only mines during jackpot days - with 5Mh/s

I'm in!

Frantically looking for some miners to pool with. I'd be glad to share some of the extra bonus. PM ME!

https://tman540.triplemining.com/register

Looking to get a pool of miners together. Let me know if you're interested. I'm sure I could work out some nice bonuses for the first few who start mining in my pool. PM ME!

edit: @ 600 M/HS going to be near 1 G/HS within the next few days.

That's a bit weak, but they only have a .33% chance of hitting the jackpot (based on ~300 active miners) IF they are mining when the jackpot falls, and at "5 MH/s" on triplemining, they are CPU mining (5 MH/s is the lowest most pools will show because they average on 15 minutes), so that "5 MH/s" will come and go evn further deteriorating that user's chances, because a CPU miner doesn't return shares fast enough to keep the site convinced it is still mining (I've seen two GPUs mining at well over 8MH/s each [so at least 16.5 MH/s total on one worker] show 0 MH/s becaues it took so long to return a share).

Just got my first minipool miner. Great website guys, SIGN UP ;]

So we've been plagued with poolhoppers, that abuse our pool.  The only correct action we can take to these abusers, is to change our payment system, in such a way that it becomes less interesting for poolhoppers (and therefore more interesting for fair miners).  We are going to change our pool to a PPLNS pool.

What does this mean:

We will payout for all last N shares submitted, where N is defined as the current difficulty divided by 2.

In other words, when a block is found, we will look at the last 845450 shares, and we will divide the 50 BTC over the people that submitted those shares.  The number 845450 is half of the current difficulty and will be automatically adjusted if the difficulty rises.

- This is more fair for cpu/low power miners: you will have profit from very fast blocks, even if you could not submit a share for that block.
- This is fair for irregular miners: if you only mine at night, you will ofcourse have less chance on finding a block, and only when your pc is actually mining during the finding of a block will you receive BTC's, but you will earn much  more from a block when it falls, so in the end, statistically, you have more profits then with no poolhopping protection.  Note that your income may fluctuate even more...
- This is fair for normal 24/7 miners, as they will get more, as the poolhoppers cannot run away with any BTC's...
- This is not pleasant for poolhoppers: they will get 0 on long blocks, and a block after a long block will not gain any decent profit anymore.


So when are we going to implement this change?

Soon :)

Personally, I would have voted for SMPPS, but PPLNS probably makes more sense given the jackpot situation.

I am no expert on different reward types but just reading the descriptions, I prefer a SMPPS over a PPLNS.
I am not happy about getting double fracked when my connection was dropped or something else crashed.
My miner switches to another pool, when it can’t connect to my main pool (https://Krokodill.triplemining.com) and I have better thing to do with my time than inspect it all the time.

 

Our 2 server-clusters (eu1 and eu2) have nothing in common, so they can survive if the other crashes.  Put your main and backup pool to either, so you will not go down....

"I am not happy about getting double fracked when my connection was dropped or something else crashed. "

Let me clarify this. If my connection gets dropped (thanks to my crappy ISP) and I end up mining in another pool for some time and if you have  PPLNS, I am starting to lose my rewards, if it happens at the bad moment. 

I don't get it.  Do you mean to say "number 1" pool? I'm in USA, and "number" is shortened to "No" or "Nº" or "Num" or "#" but certainly not "NR."

I noticed throughout your site it states that miners get 99%, owners get 1%, and 1% gets sent to the jackpot.

Where ? 1% is for the owners , but people that register on www / with no owner give it to the jackpot.

Oh, it should say under Payment Structure something like: "If a user doesn't have a parent miner, then the 1% owner fee goes into the jackpot."

Sounds interesting. I will join!!  :D

For some reason the page is showing up weird in Chrome
http://gyazo.com/cfa6a5d6ead85ce7ab9f4f3e3299fc72.png
then in FireFox
http://gyazo.com/b58bdee2f6b8593372817d2ea79abee8.png

I changed it

Wow this block is taking an age. 100hrs now my word. I hope we have some quick ones coming up!!

Are invalids and stales the same thing?  The worker page always shows - for invalids for me, but the JSON API page shows stales.

yes, same

I guess that makes my previous post a bug report (either the JSON API is showing lifetime stales 0and wow are they low] or the worker page isn't showing the rounds shares, but instead always shows '-').

damn the current block is taking ages....

Is this better or worse for people who have been mining strictly in triplemining? Will we receive bigger shares?

I'm not sure on the answer to that.  It is interesting, though.  I think this block started during the jackpot day, so GHash/s jumped up to like 133, then slowy trickled down to its 40 GHash/s.  Those still mining are increasing their portion of the total number of shares, but those who left might be getting the benefits pool hoppers get (though presumably those benefits dwindle in a case like this).  However, at the end of the day it's still only 50 BTC to go around to everyone involved in the 120+ hours so far, whereas if three blocks were solved in 24 hours, that would be 150 BTC to go around.  That said, if everyone quit mining, the block would never be solved, so the longer (more shares) you have mined, the more you would have to lose by quitting.  When they go to PPLNS, this all changes, and only those mining within 60 minutes of the solution get anything, which would be hugely beneficial to those solely mining at triple on the rare monster block like this one (unless the timing of a problem screwed them over).

You still get a portion though, no? I've been mining for three days on and off. I've solved nearly 50,000 shares for this block -_-

As long as they don't switch to PPLNS before the round ends, you will get your share.  Once they switch to PPLNS, it will be important that you are mining with them at a consistent rate all of the time in order to insure you get your share, however, those who do that will do better per block than they do now, and pool hoppers will be discouraged from using the pool, making it more stable and supposively more fair.

EDIT:  Presumably you only mine at night.  In that case, your best bet is probably to look for a SMPPS pool.  With those, you get paid a set amount per share.  The pool keeps the excess when a block is found fast and uses it to pay the difference when a block is found slow.  Presumably TripleMining is small enough to consider that (SMPPS) risky for them to implement.

Disclaimer:  Everything following the word "EDIT:" above is based 100% on my personal assumption.

wait what, so if i only mine 12 hours a day and the block gets solved during my time off i dont get anything? in that case ill quit the pool at once!

It depends, and I would assume that they will let us know how exactly how they will calculate payouts when they do go to PPLNS (if not before then).  That said, but you need to know how all of your potential pools payout before you leave one to go to another that does the same thing.  ;)

Hopefully some of the owners of triplemining can clear this up for us.

Lol still mining this one damn block. 127 hours and counting -_-

There was another block before that had about the same amount of time:

Yes, but not near as many shares.  That block was while Triplemining was fairly new and 50 GHash/s wasn't typical (much less 130 GHash/s for the first several hours).  However, this is in no way Triplemining's fault, it's just luck, I've seen blocks with over 8 million shares and heard of blocks with over 10 million shares.  OTOH, I've seen blocks with less than 25 thousand shares at this difficulty.  It's supposed to all average out on the end, and TripleMining had some fairly good luck not too long ago.

7 194 213 shares lol

GODDAMN IT!!!

cool. our record block :D

maybe there should be some little bonus for miner who finds it :)

Can you add estimated reward, duration and pool speed to json stats?

Is anyone having success with this?

Does this payout more than using slush's pool?

I'm about to start my computer back up.
22Mhash/s is better than nothing.

Yeah, finally found it :)

MrSam, can you add estimated reward, duration and pool speed to json stats?

I am in from July 10th and

I got 69.53532842 BTC all lost it in My(fukMe)Bitcoin.com
I got a jackpot of 0.98151906 BTC

NO FEES

Yes it's a PYRAMID of ONE LEVEL (READ BEFORE YOU CRITICIZE THANK YOU)

Honest Guys, work hard and DIG

I LOVE IT

BLOCK

We are looking into creating our own wallet system, so users don't have to use other (insecure?) systems for managing their money.

how?

hey, im new to triplemining and have a few questions.

can multiple cpus mine with just 1 worker?

lets say i have 4 cpus mining and i only have 1 worker, and all of the cpus are connected to that 1 worker. does that work?

Yes, you can mine with just one worker.
It would be better to use 4 separate miners, but either way is fine.

[PS]: I am not responsible for any loss of shares you may encounter due to using one worker.

Dear fellow miners,

Don’t miss out on the great opportunity to participate in our Flash Mob Mining Event and make a little bit of mining history.

The event will take place on Sunday August 21st at 9 PM (GMT).

We know we are a small pool, and we know we have been mining for an uneasy long period of time to find that block, so we understand most of you guys are mining somewhere else.

At the same time we are just like you, passionate mining enthusiasts who believe in the future of bitcoins and mining pools. So it breaks our heart to see our cool little non-profit pool lose its battle against the difficulty.

You, as a member of our group of close to 3000 miners, are able to make the difference. Doing a little bit of math, we figured if we stand together as a group and Flash Mob this block it will drop in no time.

How to participate?

The Flash Mob Mining Event will take place on Sunday August 21st at 9 PM (GMT).

Join us on our irc channel #tripleming on Freenode.

Configure your mining client to eu.triplemining.com on port 8344.

Watch us break all mining records when you and all our other group members Flash Mob that block!

What’s in it for you?

Apart from helping your favorite mining pool crack a hell of a block we will give away a Radion HD 6990 Graphics Card for each 10 blocks found until Midnight (GMT) on Sunday August 21st.

Progress can be followed through Twitter as we tweet each time a block is found. Join us on Twitter @triplemining.

Time zones:

UTC   
Sunday, 21 August 2011, 21:00:00

Brussels (Belgium)
Sunday, 21 August 2011, 23:00:00        CEST    UTC+2 hours

New York (U.S.A. - New York)
Sunday, 21 August 2011, 17:00:00        EDT     UTC-4 hours

Dallas (U.S.A. - Texas)
Sunday, 21 August 2011, 16:00:00        CDT     UTC-5 hours

Phoenix (U.S.A. - Arizona)
Sunday, 21 August 2011, 14:00:00        MST     UTC-7 hours

San Francisco (U.S.A. - California)
Sunday, 21 August 2011, 14:00:00        PDT     UTC-7 hours

Thank you for taking the time to read this email and thank you for being part of the triplemining group of miners.

Zelda, MrSam en Kinlo.

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but here goes anyway.
I'm a bitcoin mining newbie and just started mining in your pool.
Looking at your stats, it seems as if this pool has not generated any blocks for a while (390 hours/ 16 days).
That's almost double the previous maximum time it took to generate a block.

Am I reading the stats incorrectly?
Is there something to be worried about?

Maybe somebody can point me towards some documentation that will help me understand the process better?

Regards,

No you are absolutely spot on. Its taking ages to find this block. Probability and luck seem to be killing tripplemining at the moment. >:(

Ok, thanks for confirming my suspicion.

I gave a referral URL to a friend and he signed up.  He has not shown up in my minipool yet.  How long until a new member shows up?

They show up immediatly.  Your friend probably did something wrong...

Wait, I don't get it.

Could I, for an example, create Triplemining minipool with a computer A, using Miner 1...
And then join beneath it with a computer B, using Miner 2 (GPU1), Miner 3 (GPU2), and Miner 4 (CPU) ?

...And not only chip in and contrinute to the actual mining, but effectively multiply my chances of the lottery winning as well? Or...?

That is considered cheating and we do take action against it, both automated and manually

Try any other pool.
Take a look at eligius.st or bitminter.
Triplemining is not trustworthy at all.
You will see much better results in other pools. See the pool stats thread and compare.
It rather seems that triplemining is keeping a lot of blocks for himself.
If you still use triplemining.com you should change pools asap.

HI MrSam

can miner from asia join for the actvities, if yes could you pls include for asia time．　

Sure you can join in....

Which timezone are you in?

Wheres my payments for testing out this pool

235220   Oct 22 2013 10:30:05   Payout from block 265158   0.00000000   
You got paid for participating in this block. This block had a total of 843 554 988 shares of which you found 27,428. To calculate your reward for this round, we used the PPLNS,N=24h payment system. The last 24h before this block was found, you found 0 shares, the pool found 77 110 202 shares. You receive 0/77110202th of the total reward. Your payout was: 0.00000000 BTC.


110442   Oct 23 2012 05:28:29   Payout from block 204448   0.00000000   
You got paid for participating in this block. This block had a total of 13 329 135 shares of which you found 416. To calculate your reward for this round, we used the PPLNS,N=24h payment system. The last 24h before this block was found, you found 0 shares, the pool found 1 653 585 shares. You receive 0/1653585th of the total reward. Your payout was: 0.00000000 BTC.

Jeez, that's pretty grim  :-\

I things improve for everyone involved.

Oh yeah, I know dat feel  :( I just got tired of mining there after a few days of an extremely long block and started mining some altcoins, but I seriously hoped I'd get something for my work..apparently not.


236377   Oct 22 2013 04:30:46   Payout from block 265158   0.00000000   
You got paid for participating in this block. This block had a total of 843 554 988 shares of which you found 504 144. To calculate your reward for this round, we used the PPLNS,N=24h payment system. The last 24h before this block was found, you found 0 shares, the pool found 77 110 202 shares. You receive 0/77110202th of the total reward. Your payout was: 0.00000000 BTC.

Seems this pool is more like  a scam to me sent support tickets in no answers and also no answers on here. I have over 100GH to throw at a pool and I was going to do continued mining here till given the middle finger after round finished.

Admin care to explain??

Almost 3 months with no reply? SCAM?

lol
you can ask your support questions on #triplemining irc channel.

Eh, we don't really monitor this board.  For support always send email to info@triplemining.com
Also please post in the thread under pools please

why after 24 hs minig doesn't show me my balance?

Maybe read this:


Just a thought ;)