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Title: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: baritus on June 17, 2013, 08:08:08 PM The purpose of this whole thread is pointing out that there is no challenge to anyone that is actually a member of this community.
Responding to a threat by a person, that I have never spoken to and that intends to attack me and the community I care about, defiantly, is my right. It still isn't an open invitation for any individual to attack a community for no actual reason. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Frizz23 on June 17, 2013, 08:10:33 PM Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Simran on June 17, 2013, 08:14:00 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. Stop being a little bitch. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: dubs on June 17, 2013, 08:14:20 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. are you shitting your pants now? Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: FiiNALiZE on June 17, 2013, 08:17:25 PM Well then AltCoinPwner, looks like the DGC dev challenged you to 51% his coin.
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: baritus on June 17, 2013, 08:25:28 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community. A baseless threat without provocation or cause. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Simran on June 17, 2013, 08:27:04 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community for no reason. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? Don't worry about BCX. He's cool and destroy any coin. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: MaGNeT on June 17, 2013, 08:30:54 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community for no reason. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? Don't worry about BCX. He's cool and destroy any coin. Yup, BCX does what he says. You can love him or hate him for that, you can ban him but it doesn't take away the danger from low hashrate altcoins. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: FiiNALiZE on June 17, 2013, 08:31:49 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community for no reason. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? Don't worry about BCX. He's cool and destroy any coin. Yup, BCX does what he says. You can love him or hate him for that, you can ban him but it doesn't take away the danger from low hashrate altcoins. DGC has one of the highest hashrates out of all the altcoins. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: JasperParsons on June 17, 2013, 08:34:56 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community for no reason. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? Don't worry about BCX. He's cool and destroy any coin. Yup, BCX does what he says. You can love him or hate him for that, you can ban him but it doesn't take away the danger from low hashrate altcoins. DGC has one of the highest hashrates out of all the altcoins. Doesn't mean much when it's all in a couple pools though does it? Better spread the hash rate around a little more. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: FiiNALiZE on June 17, 2013, 08:36:00 PM Yup, but that's never going to happen lol.
People are too fucking lazy nowadays. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: MaGNeT on June 17, 2013, 08:36:36 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community for no reason. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? Don't worry about BCX. He's cool and destroy any coin. Yup, BCX does what he says. You can love him or hate him for that, you can ban him but it doesn't take away the danger from low hashrate altcoins. DGC has one of the highest hashrates out of all the altcoins. If BCX can kill it, that says a lot about the chance of survival of other coins. If he can't, maybe there is hope left for the other coins too. I like altcoins, I'm always in this subforum in my freetime, but with all the new coins, taking a piece of the hashing-power-pie we run into a vulnerable situation. Only a few will survive, I hope DGC will be one of them but if BCX succeeds, it's the end of many other coins. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: thef on June 17, 2013, 08:36:48 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_qShAZg2Zw
:D Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Mazakguy on June 17, 2013, 08:36:52 PM You all should just do it, and show him what happens when you flap your mouth.
It would teach him to think first lol Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: HuuHachu on June 17, 2013, 08:38:44 PM You can love him or hate him for that, you can ban him but it doesn't take away the danger from low hashrate altcoins. DGC has one of the highest hashrates out of all the altcoins. But half of that hashpower is still on dgc.epools.org ... this is dangerous. (And by the way, should the pool operator want to attack the coin himself, he could with exceptional ease !) Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: MaGNeT on June 17, 2013, 08:39:04 PM If you wan't to protect your altcoin, setup a failover @ solo mining it.
If all pools fail, your rig will mine solo, making it harder for an attacker to 51% your coin. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Simran on June 17, 2013, 08:39:15 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community for no reason. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? Don't worry about BCX. He's cool and destroy any coin. Yup, BCX does what he says. You can love him or hate him for that, you can ban him but it doesn't take away the danger from low hashrate altcoins. DGC has one of the highest hashrates out of all the WRONG! Has the highest hashrate out of all the shitcoins. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: tron1082 on June 17, 2013, 08:39:26 PM I still think you should 51% GLD first. Let's start at the bottom and work our way up if that's what you want.
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: MaGNeT on June 17, 2013, 08:40:09 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community for no reason. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? Don't worry about BCX. He's cool and destroy any coin. Yup, BCX does what he says. You can love him or hate him for that, you can ban him but it doesn't take away the danger from low hashrate altcoins. DGC has one of the highest hashrates out of all the WRONG! Has the highest hashrate out of all the shitcoins. I don't think it adds anything to a discussion by throwing shit. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Simran on June 17, 2013, 08:40:31 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community for no reason. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? Don't worry about BCX. He's cool and destroy any coin. Yup, BCX does what he says. You can love him or hate him for that, you can ban him but it doesn't take away the danger from low hashrate altcoins. DGC has one of the highest hashrates out of all the WRONG! Has the highest hashrate out of all the shitcoins. I don't think it adds anything to a discussion by throwing shit. Neither does your post, but I ain't saying shit. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: baritus on June 17, 2013, 08:40:57 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community. A baseless threat without provocation or cause. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? As a DEV of a coin that wants to be taken seriously you think that was appropriate behavior? You didn't even think about your supporters, the pool operators or the exchanges you would bring the wrath down upon did you. So I ask you one last time, Does your original challenge still stand? ~BCX~ The purpose of this whole thread is pointing out that there is no challenge to anyone that is actually a member of this community. Responding to a threat by a person, that I have never spoken to and that intends to attack me and the community I care about, defiantly, is my right. It still isn't an open invitation for any individual to attack a community for no actual reason. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: MaGNeT on June 17, 2013, 08:41:25 PM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community for no reason. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? Don't worry about BCX. He's cool and destroy any coin. Yup, BCX does what he says. You can love him or hate him for that, you can ban him but it doesn't take away the danger from low hashrate altcoins. DGC has one of the highest hashrates out of all the WRONG! Has the highest hashrate out of all the shitcoins. I don't think it adds anything to a discussion by throwing shit. Neither does your post, but I ain't saying shit. Love you too :-* Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: JasperParsons on June 17, 2013, 08:41:42 PM You all should just do it, and show him what happens when you flap your mouth. It would teach him to think first lol Who says it's not already being attacked? When was that last checkpoint? PWC was being 51%'d for two days and people were only made aware of it when the attacker posted it here. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Eli0t on June 17, 2013, 08:43:29 PM no challenge open, move along
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Mazakguy on June 17, 2013, 08:47:43 PM Quote The purpose of this whole thread is pointing out that there is no challenge to anyone that is actually a member of this community. Responding to a threat by a person, that I have never spoken to and that intends to attack me and the community I care about, defiantly, is my right. It still isn't an open invitation for any individual to attack a community for no actual reason. Translation: I just found out my mouth wrote a check my ass can't cash. Now I need to find a way to back down without looking like a total pussy. Gotta love it. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: anderl on June 17, 2013, 08:48:54 PM You all should just do it, and show him what happens when you flap your mouth. It would teach him to think first lol Who says it's not already being attacked? When was that last checkpoint? PWC was being 51%'d for two days and people were only made aware of it when the attacker posted it here. you know what will be funny. when all the alt coins are destroyed and all the miners switch to LTC and skyrocket the diff so there is not profit in mining LTC anymore. hypothetically speaking. aI mean after all what is all the hashing power going to do when the alts are gone, just stop mining go back to playing call of duty? lol bunch of chimps with gpu farms. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: bizz on June 17, 2013, 08:53:44 PM You all should just do it, and show him what happens when you flap your mouth. It would teach him to think first lol Who says it's not already being attacked? When was that last checkpoint? PWC was being 51%'d for two days and people were only made aware of it when the attacker posted it here. 2.7 MH/s. That's the last hashrate I saw on PWC before attack. DGC has 804.76 MH/s according to coinchoose atm. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: CartmanSPC on June 17, 2013, 08:55:07 PM Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: pinarello on June 17, 2013, 09:10:03 PM hope it isnt to late ::)
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: dubs on June 17, 2013, 11:59:17 PM none of you could 51 it, you're all talk!
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: kelsey on June 18, 2013, 12:07:10 AM I still think you should 51% GLD first. Let's start at the bottom and work our way up if that's what you want. na leave our gldcoin alone. anyway doubt any of you talkers could 51 it, we have a top dev team thats on the ball. gldcoin is the future Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: mr_random on June 18, 2013, 12:09:59 AM This time next week nothing will have happened. So predictable.
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: mastadonballs on June 18, 2013, 12:10:36 AM BCX, if you actually 51% attack DGC, you will have such an authority that no one will ever mess with you again.
However, if you decide to be passive, then bystanders will only be able to guess whether or not your capabilities actually exist. You have set yourself up to be in a position where your reputation and ethos are on the line. Do what you will. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: dubs on June 18, 2013, 12:11:08 AM BCX, if you actually 51% attack DGC, you will have such an authority that no one will ever mess with you again. However, if you decide to be passive, then bystanders will only be able to guess whether or not your capabilities actually exist. You have set yourself up to be in a position where your reputation and ethos are on the line. Do what you will. I doubt they even exist Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: LosingAlpha on June 18, 2013, 12:18:08 AM No one "messed" with me at all. FYI: "yes I accept your challenge" is all fine and dandy, but the way you've publicly proposed to do it breaks a number of laws in your home country, and you're not as anonymous as you think you are.Just answered a challenge set out by the DEV Baritus that's all. This is all on him but yes Dubs, maybe I'm talking some smack and there's nothing to worry about. ~BCX~ Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: trenal on June 18, 2013, 12:21:02 AM I haven't seen this good of an epenis thread in a long time, mine just shrank from all the awesomeness in this thread.
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: tron1082 on June 18, 2013, 12:21:30 AM I still think you should 51% GLD first. Let's start at the bottom and work our way up if that's what you want. na leave our gldcoin alone. anyway doubt any of you talkers could 51 it, we have a top dev team thats on the ball. gldcoin is the future This is hilarious.. I can hear Microguy drinking and singing while I read it. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: dubs on June 18, 2013, 12:22:50 AM so is this shit going down or what
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: tron1082 on June 18, 2013, 12:24:50 AM I like Microguy, I thought singing Youtube video was hilarous! ~BCX~ Yeah, it has that 'reality tv trainwreck' appeal. I commend him for his dedication though. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: moody123 on June 18, 2013, 12:28:38 AM I think the whole point is - you either support crypto currency or don't (even though there's some crud out there). If you support it, it's not your job to "take down" anything. If something is really junk don't mine it and don't trade it, it'll die eventually on it's own. If you don't support crypto then you don't really belong here anyway.
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: dubs on June 18, 2013, 12:29:26 AM Some of this pure comedy gold. http://www.youtube.com/user/MicroGuyChannel ~BCX~ why are you ignoring my question Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: LosingAlpha on June 18, 2013, 12:35:31 AM so is this shit going down or what Hopefully. It will be interesting to see if the courts treat an attack on a cryptocurrency as harshly as they do a similar attack on a traditional financial institution, and he's certainly incriminated himself to a huge degree if he actually goes ahead with the plan he spelled out on page one of the "DGC DEV Challenges The Community Kill His Coin" thread.Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: dubs on June 18, 2013, 12:38:15 AM Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: moody123 on June 18, 2013, 12:39:02 AM Some of this pure comedy gold. http://www.youtube.com/user/MicroGuyChannel ~BCX~ why are you ignoring my question I'm well aware of the fact you want me to nail DGC, I'm just waiting on Baritus or the lack thereof. I have nothing to prove to anyone. ~BCX~ But that's exactly why you're doing this in the first place. Cause you're trying to "prove" you're "tough". Otherwise why would you even be involved in this whole playground drama anyway? All kinda pathetic really. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: moody123 on June 18, 2013, 12:41:40 AM You're defending the bad guy. You do understand that right?
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: dubs on June 18, 2013, 12:42:17 AM Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: dubs on June 18, 2013, 12:44:25 AM You have to be the reincarnation of user once called Bulanula LOL ~BCX~ good or bad thing? Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: the1silverwolf on June 18, 2013, 12:51:38 AM Attacking cryptcoins, any cryptcoins does nothing but harm to this community.
The world at large knows almost nothing about cryptcoin tech, all they know is what they see on the news. Infighting, bickering, attacks and the like won't do a damn thing except spread negative publicity and delay the adoption of any cryptocurrency by the mainstream world. It looks like a bunch of 12 year old boys in a pissing contest. This technology is in it's infancy, Bitcoins, Litecoins, or flavor of the day altcoins aren't going to be what replaces regular fiat currency. It will be their descendants, far removed from where we are now. None of the current coins are going to cut it in their present state. We NEED the altcoins. We need them to be trying new things, different approaches, different ideas. Even the strange and stupid ones. Every stupid, bad idea or poorly launched altcoin brings us a tiny bit closer to the end-goal because as a community we learn from our mistakes and we share information, Good ideas are still good ideas even when they are introduced with one failcoin or another. I believe our end-goal should be a universally accepted and respected p2p digital currency in the mainstream world. Something you can walk into any 7-11 with and walk out with a pack of smokes. Something that isn't controlled by a single government (or corporation). If that's something you'd like to see happen then get on board, otherwise you have no business being here. Just my 2 Cents, take it for what it's worth. SW Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: FiiNALiZE on June 18, 2013, 12:56:24 AM Attacking cryptcoins, any cryptcoins does nothing but harm to this community. The world at large knows almost nothing about cryptcoin tech, all they know is what they see on the news. Infighting, bickering, attacks and the like won't do a damn thing except spread negative publicity and delay the adoption of any cryptocurrency by the mainstream world. It looks like a bunch of 12 year old boys in a pissing contest. This technology is in it's infancy, Bitcoins, Litecoins, or flavor of the day altcoins aren't going to be what replaces regular fiat currency. It will be their descendants, far removed from where we are now. None of the current coins are going to cut it in their present state. We NEED the altcoins. We need them to be trying new things, different approaches, different ideas. Even the strange and stupid ones. Every stupid, bad idea or poorly launched altcoin brings us a tiny bit closer to the end-goal because as a community we learn from our mistakes and we share information, Good ideas are still good ideas even when they are introduced with one failcoin or another. I believe our end-goal should be a universally accepted and respected p2p digital currency in the mainstream world. Something you can walk into any 7-11 with and walk out with a pack of smokes. Something that isn't controlled by a single government (or corporation). If that's something you'd like to see happen then get on board, otherwise you have no business being here. Just my 2 Cents, take it for what it's worth. SW +100 I agree, but we need alts with INNOVATIONS, not alt's that are clones of LTC. Cloning LTC and rebranding it a different name does nothing in the long-term. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: bitdwarf on June 18, 2013, 12:58:37 AM I don't want to put on the tinfoil hat, but seeing baritus' peculiar involvement in Argentum's launch (which is after all competing against DGC) I was expecting him already to do more harm than good to DGC.
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: moody123 on June 18, 2013, 12:59:06 AM A coin doesn't necessarily have to be a different hashing algorithm from LTC to be different enough to contribute. It's quite possible to innovate in other areas of the code...
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: the1silverwolf on June 18, 2013, 01:03:44 AM +100 I agree, but we need alts with INNOVATIONS, not alt's that are clones of LTC. Cloning LTC and rebranding it a different name does nothing in the long-term. I see where you are coming from, there have been far too many simple clones with no actual purpose IMHO. However, we can learn things even from them. We can observe how the networks operate simultaneously and in different conditions as an example. Even small tweaks might be important in time. We cannot see what the important innovations are right now. You never can before they happen. I can tell you that I don't think "shitcoins" are going to be the winner. many of the new coins show very little obvious difference or innovation. But that doesn't matter. Time gets to decide what's important and what isn't, not me or you. You need a hodgepodge of crap so that the one solitary flower can grow out of it. It takes all kinds man, you can't just have the winners. You need the losers too. Tons of them. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: bitdwarf on June 18, 2013, 01:11:52 AM It takes all kinds man, you can't just have the winners. You need the losers too. Tons of them. Quote Failure analysis is the process of collecting and analyzing data to determine the cause of a failure. It is an important discipline in many branches of manufacturing industry, such as the electronics industry, where it is a vital tool used in the development of new products and for the improvement of existing products. The failure analysis process relies on collecting failed components for subsequent examination of the cause or causes of failure using a wide array of methods http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failure_mode_and_effects_analysis Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: baritus on June 18, 2013, 01:43:37 AM Except in our case it's a success analysis, and a whole topic that is about something which doesn't even exist.
I never challenged anyone except the 2 post newbie threatening the community. I referred to him as "you". Yet people somehow made it about themselves. It boggles my mind why.... Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: the1silverwolf on June 18, 2013, 01:57:52 AM Except in our case it's a success analysis, and a whole topic that is about something which doesn't even exist. I never challenged anyone except the 2 post newbie threatening the community. I referred to him as "you". Yet people somehow made it about themselves. It boggles my mind why.... Probably best not to stir the pot. Just a suggestion. Let's let this thread die and move onto something important. Shall we ? Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Badabing on June 18, 2013, 02:11:59 AM Just to inform everybody , Big Vern found nothing wrong with pwc and powercoin is back on trading on Cryptsy now.
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Random Bit on June 18, 2013, 02:14:53 AM We NEED the altcoins. We need them to be trying new things, different approaches, different ideas. Even the strange and stupid ones. Every stupid, bad idea or poorly launched altcoin brings us a tiny bit closer to the end-goal because as a community we learn from our mistakes and we share information, Good ideas are still good ideas even when they are introduced with one failcoin or another. SW the1silverwolf, I respect what you are saying and fully agree. For the record I am not for attacking a coin for any reason. But doesn't this bring us one step closer to the end-goal as a community by stress testing our own coin code and group standards. A failed coin is to be learned from, that is from launch to timing metrics and security. I hope DGT survives but as a group we have to learn how to prevent these attacks to make a currency globally acceptable. If it can be done easily by such a small group then what would happen if it a coin is accepted in the mainstream media and then attacked by an organization with significant backing and financial support. Think of pentesting any network, it needs to be done and weaknesses addressed. The community needs to find out now and grow around 51% attacks and prevent them in the future, they should not be easy to deploy. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: the1silverwolf on June 18, 2013, 02:23:33 AM We NEED the altcoins. We need them to be trying new things, different approaches, different ideas. Even the strange and stupid ones. Every stupid, bad idea or poorly launched altcoin brings us a tiny bit closer to the end-goal because as a community we learn from our mistakes and we share information, Good ideas are still good ideas even when they are introduced with one failcoin or another. SW the1silverwolf, I respect what you are saying and fully agree. For the record I am not for attacking a coin for any reason. But doesn't this bring us one step closer to the end-goal as a community by stress testing our own coin code and group standards. A failed coin is to be learned from, that is from launch to timing metrics and security. I hope DGT survives but as a group we have to learn how to prevent these attacks to make a currency globally acceptable. If it can be done easily by such a small group then what would happen if it a coin is accepted in the mainstream media and then attacked by an organization with significant backing and financial support. Think of pentesting any network, it needs to be done and weaknesses addressed. The community needs to find out now and grow around 51% attacks and prevent them in the future, they should not be easy to deploy. That's true and you are quite correct. But I think there are plenty of opportunities to run these tests and collect this data without attacking a legitimate coin that many people have a financial stake in. Not to mention there are plenty of attacks originating from outside this community that will need to be defended against. My post mainly deals with the infighting within the community itself, which isn't productive at all. What we should do is create a coin specifically designed to be a target of attacks. The results of that research would benefit every cryptocoin I think. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: R-T-B on June 18, 2013, 02:25:03 AM I agree with Silverwolf 100%. That said, this forum has taught me the truth in one statement and only one statement the past few days: Greed brings out the worst in people.
There are those who are in it for the innovation, the ideology, and the freedom. Inevitably, they get attacked by those who are in it to make a quick buck. It doesn't matter if they never intend to use that coin, they intend to drive people to THEIR coin to make a quick buck. Money drives a good portion of this forum, hence all the comments about "shitcoins" and senseless FUD I have been seeing in the past few days. Accusations fly, usually false or baseless, and they do it all to "sell their souls" so to speak in this world for cash. There is nothing more important to the survival of digital currency than innovation, and that's precisely why alt coins are so important. If anything stands a chance to destroy digital currency in general, it is greed, and after today I think it stands a very good chance in the long term of preventing any kind of wide scale adoption... It is so prevelant on these forums, that it will never be entirely removed. This saddens me, but it is reality. Even one line of source code changed from a copy and paste has the potential to reveal massive innovation. There are those of course who would rather the hash rate be used on their digital "gold mine" and will do anything to stifle that change, even at the expense of innovation. It's a disease, and we'd do well to purge it. Unfortunately, the reality is I never see that happening. Best of luck, you crazies. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: the1silverwolf on June 18, 2013, 02:43:29 AM I agree with Silverwolf 100%. That said, this forum has taught me the truth in one statement and only one statement the past few days: Greed brings out the worst in people. There are those who are in it for the innovation, the ideology, and the freedom. Inevitably, they get attacked by those who are in it to make a quick buck. It doesn't matter if they never intend to use that coin, they intend to drive people to THEIR coin to make a quick buck. Money drives a good portion of this forum, hence all the comments about "shitcoins" and senseless FUD I have been seeing in the past few days. Accusations fly, usually false or baseless, and they do it all to "sell their souls" so to speak in this world for cash. There is nothing more important to the survival of digital currency than innovation, and that's precisely why alt coins are so important. If anything stands a chance to destroy digital currency in general, it is greed, and after today I think it stands a very good chance in the long term of preventing any kind of wide scale adoption... It is so prevelant on these forums, that it will never be entirely removed. This saddens me, but it is reality. Even one line of source code changed from a copy and paste has the potential to reveal massive innovation. There are those of course who would rather the hash rate be used on their digital "gold mine" and will do anything to stifle that change, even at the expense of innovation. It's a disease, and we'd do well to purge it. Unfortunately, the reality is I never see that happening. Best of luck, you crazies. There's a disruptive element to any community, and those types of people will always exist. However, the community itself has sufficient tools to deal with them already. We should simply exercise them more. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: R-T-B on June 18, 2013, 02:46:24 AM You may be right, with any large community anyhow. But yes, we need more... something, anything to deal with the level of shit flinging that goes on here.
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: mullick on June 18, 2013, 02:58:13 AM Except in our case it's a success analysis, and a whole topic that is about something which doesn't even exist. I never challenged anyone except the 2 post newbie threatening the community. I referred to him as "you". Yet people somehow made it about themselves. It boggles my mind why.... You challenged someone who may have the power to kill your coin to do so. You are playing games with other people's money You have not said to bcx that the challenge is off. This again shows your ego is out of control. If you are not an egocentric little boy stop this now. If I had any money invested in DGC i would be seriously upset. Every time I think okay maybe bartibus isnt a joke.... Something like this comes along. I have tried to like you and DGC but after this, the thought will never cross my head again. A success analysis that's rich. I want to frame that and keep it on my wall to remind me when my ego is out of control Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: baritus on June 18, 2013, 03:00:32 AM Your post is pointless, the guy I "challenged" couldn't even take down PWC, probably photoshop.
What a joke, so many of you. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Hydroponica on June 18, 2013, 03:01:53 AM People like to get excited here don't they? Challenging a newbie who claims to be attacking coins and taking them down DOES NOT constitute a challenge to anyone else. That newbie has asked me to be part of his team, Does your challenge still stand? ~BCX~ I was responding to a supposedly "imminent" threat to the DGC community for no reason. Out of curiosity, what do you have to do with that BitcoinEXpress? Don't worry about BCX. He's cool and destroy any coin. Are you 2 like, together? Because your tongue seems to be pretty far up his ass Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: R-T-B on June 18, 2013, 03:03:28 AM Your post is pointless, the guy I "challenged" couldn't even take down PWC, probably photoshop. What a joke, so many of you. The only legitimate point I see here is the one of ego. There is no way you could have known that at the time. Just because you were right does not make your challenge any less foolish. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: MashRinx on June 18, 2013, 03:03:33 AM Except in our case it's a success analysis, and a whole topic that is about something which doesn't even exist. I never challenged anyone except the 2 post newbie threatening the community. I referred to him as "you". Yet people somehow made it about themselves. It boggles my mind why.... You challenged someone who may have the power to kill your coin to do so. You are playing games with other people's money STOP IT! You have not said to bcx that the challenge is off. This again shows your ego is out of control. If you are not an egocentric little boy stop this now. Just state... Bitcoinexpress. I was not trying to challenge you. Please do not attack DGC Even then your challenge to this other individual would still stand. If I had any money invested in DGC i would be seriously upset. Every time I think okay maybe bartibus isnt a joke.... Something like this comes along. I have tried to like you and DGC but after this, the thought will never cross my head again. I have sold the 9 blocks I mined minutes after release before you alone bring the end of DGC with your immature bullheaded attitude A success analysis that's rich. I want to frame that and keep it on my wall to remind me when my ego is out of control Your ego may not be out of control, but your reading comprehension could use a little work. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Hydroponica on June 18, 2013, 03:03:50 AM I still think you should 51% GLD first. Let's start at the bottom and work our way up if that's what you want. na leave our gldcoin alone. anyway doubt any of you talkers could 51 it, we have a top dev team thats on the ball. gldcoin is the future Now that, sounds like a challenge ;) Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: mullick on June 18, 2013, 03:05:18 AM Your post is pointless, the guy I "challenged" couldn't even take down PWC, probably photoshop. What a joke, so many of you. Did you know this at the time? NO! He could have very well have had 1Gh. What would you have done then? I get it's your coin. But it's other people money that have made it a "success". You have no right to make challenges like that. If it would have been real you would have your head up your ass right now trying to figure out how you will face all the people who lost money because of your ego Real or not you openly challenged someone. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: baritus on June 18, 2013, 03:07:27 AM Yes, I am proud. I have the best community, the most supportive and helpful people involved, and many intellectual people driving the direction of DGC.
I do not however tolerate blind stupidity, fear mongering, or threats from anyone. P.S. If he had 1gh/s he wouldn't be bragging about 2.7 mh/s takedown(which we now know even failed). Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: Simran on June 18, 2013, 03:09:34 AM Yes, I am proud. I have the best community, the most supportive and helpful people involved, and many intellectual people driving the direction of DGC. I do not however tolerate blind stupidity, fear mongering, or threats from anyone. P.S. If he had 1gh/s he wouldn't be bragging about 2.7 mh/s takedown(which we now know even failed). Dude... nobody gives a fuck.... stop posting. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: jbmiller10 on June 18, 2013, 03:10:48 AM Yes, I am proud. I have the best community, the most supportive and helpful people involved, and many intellectual people driving the direction of DGC. I do not however tolerate blind stupidity, fear mongering, or threats from anyone. P.S. If he had 1gh/s he wouldn't be bragging about 2.7 mh/s takedown(which we now know even failed). Dude... nobody gives a fuck.... stop posting. And yet... here you are. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: baritus on June 18, 2013, 03:11:22 AM Yes, I am proud. I have the best community, the most supportive and helpful people involved, and many intellectual people driving the direction of DGC. I do not however tolerate blind stupidity, fear mongering, or threats from anyone. P.S. If he had 1gh/s he wouldn't be bragging about 2.7 mh/s takedown(which we now know even failed). Dude... nobody gives a fuck.... stop posting. Stop reading idiot. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: mullick on June 18, 2013, 03:24:17 AM Yes, I am proud. I have the best community, the most supportive and helpful people involved, and many intellectual people driving the direction of DGC. I do not however tolerate blind stupidity, fear mongering, or threats from anyone. P.S. If he had 1gh/s he wouldn't be bragging about 2.7 mh/s takedown(which we now know even failed). Dude... nobody gives a fuck.... stop posting. Stop reading idiot. And people want this guy in control of what they invest in. Learn to take criticism and trolling like a real developer. This is the last post I will ever make relating to DGC in my book it is already dead. Good luck DGC community. I hope bartibus doesnt ruin it all for you Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: baritus on June 18, 2013, 03:25:53 AM Insults and criticisms are different things.
Just like commenting and spewing decomposing trash out are different things. Simran is an expert at the latter. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: FiiNALiZE on June 18, 2013, 03:44:02 AM So much butthurt going on in this thread.
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: kochmann799 on June 18, 2013, 04:00:24 AM TLDR for the lazy ones
some bitching, some people provoking dev (he's human, humans have limits), some people needing the statement "the challenge is off" to be served to them on a silver plate and people putting in their two cents for no reason including some ideological stuff about how we as a community are going one little step forwards with every new alt coin that had nothing to do with OP but I guess gave someone an ego boost http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/wavebreakmediamicro/wavebreakmediamicro1211/wavebreakmediamicro121111446/16074905-smiling-man-in-suit-serving-glass-of-wine-on-silver-platter.jpg I'll do the honours. To anyone involved, please please don't go and attack the DGC network anyway. Pwetty Pweaze! If you don't like dgc feel free to send me yours here ^^ I'll take good care of them! DLaaZL6wLzLtuTPVRPCXw5wWRkwy2t5Bqc now, moving on! Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: krasnyoktyabr on June 18, 2013, 04:04:27 AM So much butthurt going on in this thread. No kidding. Especially for such a non-issue. Oh well, hopefully this will all be over by the time I'm home from work tomorrow. If DGC is attacked, it won't make a huge impact on the community. If the feathercoin attack didn't change anything, neither would an attack on DGC. I'm personally intrigued by and invested in DGC, and I have no qualms with Baritus putting this coin up against the PWC attacker. Attacks are a necessary part of the growth here. We need to learn how to prevent them all together. Today it might just be a few trolls, but there could be an attack later on. Even LTC and BTC are not immune to attacks from people or corporations with lots of money. No currency (digital or tangible) is perfectly safe, but right now we, as a community, cannot claim that out currency is more secure than a pile of USD or a stack of gold coins. Until we truly solve the 51% attack, there will always be this risk. Only through attacks and threats will change occur...just like those little anti-counterfeiting strips in paper money. If there is an attack, it won't be because baritus offended the PWC attacker. G'night everyone. See you all tomorrow. Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: computerparts on June 18, 2013, 04:43:10 AM BCX is not the only one who can bring down a coin. The attack could still happen even if he does not decide to be involved.
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: mm8000 on June 18, 2013, 05:13:18 AM BCX is not the only one who can bring down a coin. The attack could still happen even if he does not decide to be involved. We're all trembling just thinking about it.. :o Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: XRcode on June 18, 2013, 05:48:50 AM Now now children, if the evil boogieman was gonna fuck you... he wouldn't wait for a challenge and probably would do it in complete silence..... This is all pretty childish.
Title: Re: There is no 51% challenge. Post by: CartmanSPC on June 18, 2013, 07:08:42 AM Now now children, if the evil boogieman was gonna fuck you... he wouldn't wait for a challenge and probably would do it in complete silence..... This is all pretty childish. This reminded me of that one scene in "This is the end" |
