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Title: [SOLD] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on November 10, 2017, 07:16:03 PM
Item: 2013 Casascius GILT Coin
Funded: Yes
Rating: MS 68
Location: Selling Worldwide
Escrow: Yes - Buyer pays fees
Price: ** SOLD **

Casascius Tracker: https://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=1Ag4BZJXZ2EqG4Fa1SyZABrvqQt3KVaZV3
Blockchain Tracker: https://blockchain.info/address/1Ag4BZJXZ2EqG4Fa1SyZABrvqQt3KVaZV3
ANACS Tracker: http://www.anacs.com/Populations/CertVerification.aspx?cert=5213400

Notes:
With BTC reaching an ALL TIME HIGH DAY AFTER DAY, I am open to offers. If we can get a deal done this weekend, the better the deal. If you are in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) and are interested, please PM me. Cash deal is king!


https://i.imgur.com/jRnVtGQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jMPirTq.jpg


Title: Re: [INTEREST/PRICE CHECK] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: ezeminer on November 10, 2017, 07:22:59 PM
Hi! Looking at any interest on my coin here. Just got it back from grading. What kind of prices can this fetch these days? Any help would be appreciated!

https://i.imgur.com/jRnVtGQ.jpg

I believe the current market would pay roughly 1.6-2.1BTC, but auctions are always a good way to gauge the market.


Title: Re: [INTEREST/PRICE CHECK] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on November 10, 2017, 07:25:18 PM
Stupid question, how did you reply and embed the image? I was trying to figure it out, but it didn't work in my original post?


Title: Re: [INTEREST/PRICE CHECK] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: Zyro on November 10, 2017, 07:29:02 PM
Stupid question, how did you reply and embed the image? I was trying to figure it out, but it didn't work in my original post?

You can just quote him to see how its suppose to be, but he used Img brackets too embed the image.  

Good luck with the Sale!


Title: Re: [INTEREST/PRICE CHECK] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on November 10, 2017, 07:40:00 PM
Stupid question, how did you reply and embed the image? I was trying to figure it out, but it didn't work in my original post?

You can just quote him to see how its suppose to be, but he used Img brackets too embed the image.  

Good luck with the Sale!

Ya I tried that exact method, but for some reason it parses it as a URL instead... so strange!


Title: Re: [INTEREST/PRICE CHECK] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: dazedfool on November 10, 2017, 07:49:51 PM
Stupid question, how did you reply and embed the image? I was trying to figure it out, but it didn't work in my original post?

You can just quote him to see how its suppose to be, but he used Img brackets too embed the image.  

Good luck with the Sale!

Ya I tried that exact method, but for some reason it parses it as a URL instead... so strange!

Newbie rank cannot embed images in posts.


Title: Re: [INTEREST/PRICE CHECK] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: Zyro on November 10, 2017, 08:09:40 PM
Stupid question, how did you reply and embed the image? I was trying to figure it out, but it didn't work in my original post?

You can just quote him to see how its suppose to be, but he used Img brackets too embed the image.  

Good luck with the Sale!

Ya I tried that exact method, but for some reason it parses it as a URL instead... so strange!

Newbie rank cannot embed images in posts.

Ah didn't know that, thanks dazed!   my bad there  :-X


Title: Re: [INTEREST/PRICE CHECK] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on November 10, 2017, 10:00:38 PM
If anyone is in the GTA and is interested, please shoot me a PM.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on November 16, 2017, 03:02:22 AM
Bump. Looking to sell this beauty. Preferably local.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: dazedfool on November 16, 2017, 03:07:06 AM
Bump. Looking to sell this beauty. Preferably local.

I will offer 1.5btc shipped with escrow or 1.6btc direct (bits or usd) if you meet me in the PNW USA.  ;D


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on November 16, 2017, 04:02:35 AM
Bump. Looking to sell this beauty. Preferably local.

I will offer 1.5btc shipped with escrow or 1.6btc direct (bits or usd) if you meet me in the PNW USA.  ;D

Very tempting. Is the 2 - 2.5 ask too high? Or you just trying to get a good deal?  ???


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: dazedfool on November 16, 2017, 04:18:03 AM
Bump. Looking to sell this beauty. Preferably local.

I will offer 1.5btc shipped with escrow or 1.6btc direct (bits or usd) if you meet me in the PNW USA.  ;D

Very tempting. Is the 2 - 2.5 ask too high? Or you just trying to get a good deal?  ???

I think too high given current market... but it is your coin and up to you.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: ChiBitCTy on November 16, 2017, 05:06:53 AM
Bump. Looking to sell this beauty. Preferably local.

I will offer 1.5btc shipped with escrow or 1.6btc direct (bits or usd) if you meet me in the PNW USA.  ;D

Very tempting. Is the 2 - 2.5 ask too high? Or you just trying to get a good deal?  ???

One literally just ended on eBay and sold for 1.53BTC.. just an FYI. Of course the seller lost out on .23BTC in fees.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on November 16, 2017, 01:05:37 PM

One literally just ended on eBay and sold for 1.53BTC.. just an FYI. Of course the seller lost out on .23BTC in fees.

Can you share a link?


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: notserp on November 16, 2017, 07:00:10 PM

One literally just ended on eBay and sold for 1.53BTC.. just an FYI. Of course the seller lost out on .23BTC in fees.

Can you share a link?

Sure thing!!

Here you go:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Casascius-1-Bit-coin-GOLD-RIM-1-700-CONFIRMED-FULLY-LOADED/292319530038

that guy already has one neg feedback for not selling the same coin so who knows if it sold this time


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: ChiBitCTy on November 16, 2017, 07:22:05 PM

One literally just ended on eBay and sold for 1.53BTC.. just an FYI. Of course the seller lost out on .23BTC in fees.

Can you share a link?

Sure thing!!

Here you go:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Casascius-1-Bit-coin-GOLD-RIM-1-700-CONFIRMED-FULLY-LOADED/292319530038

that guy already has one neg feedback for not selling the same coin so who knows if it sold this time

That user sells a lot of crypto coins. Always thought it was a regular here.

Edit- ok now I realize that user sold me two Cas Coins a few months ago. Paid for insurance for me and was very happy with their customer service (for whatever that’s worth).


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: RealHummer on November 16, 2017, 10:04:57 PM

One literally just ended on eBay and sold for 1.53BTC.. just an FYI. Of course the seller lost out on .23BTC in fees.

Can you share a link?

Sure thing!!

Here you go:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Casascius-1-Bit-coin-GOLD-RIM-1-700-CONFIRMED-FULLY-LOADED/292319530038

that guy already has one neg feedback for not selling the same coin so who knows if it sold this time
I had bid on the last auction and was second place and also bid this auction but before doing so I asked him what the deal was. The buyer left negative stating the seller wanted more money than the 10,100 it sold for but the seller claims the buyer didnt have the money and wanted him to wait until he had the money to complete the deal or something like that. who knows!!


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: Zepher on November 16, 2017, 10:46:24 PM

One literally just ended on eBay and sold for 1.53BTC.. just an FYI. Of course the seller lost out on .23BTC in fees.

Can you share a link?

Sure thing!!

Here you go:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Casascius-1-Bit-coin-GOLD-RIM-1-700-CONFIRMED-FULLY-LOADED/292319530038

Ouch. The Casascius Silver Gilt and All Silver 1 BTC has, until now, managed to hold on to the majority of its' premium. Seeing one sell for 1.53 BTC (especially on eBay) is discouraging. Although it was only a matter of time before the premium on these started to be affected. I suspect it will get worse as BTC increases past $10k.

I couldn't part with one of mine for that. One day the rarity factor of these will catch up with them (with there only being 700). Once regular coin collectors become interested in crypto, then we should once again see a boost in premiums. That might be a while away.. Until then, its worth just hanging onto (if you don't need to sell).


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on November 16, 2017, 11:05:23 PM
Sure thing!!

Here you go:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Casascius-1-Bit-coin-GOLD-RIM-1-700-CONFIRMED-FULLY-LOADED/292319530038

Nice! That is a great find, and I am sure he is a reputable seller (as mentioned by others in this thread). Only downside, I do not believe this one on eBay was graded? So hopefully mine would pull a slightly better premium.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: ChiBitCTy on November 17, 2017, 12:32:39 AM

One literally just ended on eBay and sold for 1.53BTC.. just an FYI. Of course the seller lost out on .23BTC in fees.

Can you share a link?

Sure thing!!

Here you go:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Casascius-1-Bit-coin-GOLD-RIM-1-700-CONFIRMED-FULLY-LOADED/292319530038

Ouch. The Casascius Silver Gilt and All Silver 1 BTC has, until now, managed to hold on to the majority of its' premium. Seeing one sell for 1.53 BTC (especially on eBay) is discouraging. Although it was only a matter of time before the premium on these started to be affected. I suspect it will get worse as BTC increases past $10k.

I couldn't part with one of mine for that. One day the rarity factor of these will catch up with them (with there only being 700). Once regular coin collectors become interested in crypto, then we should once again see a boost in premiums. That might be a while away.. Until then, its worth just hanging onto (if you don't need to sell).

He sold me Cas coins for a deal he probably regretted and I’d like to say he just doesn’t know the market but this was an auction and not a buy it now. When I saw what it went for I got a little sad inside that I wasn’t that last bid!

Also B I agree. With mints like the US producing mostly garbage nobody wants it’s been a drag on  the numismatic world. As a coin collector when I found Casascius and Kialara it complete reinvigorated my love for the hobby.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: ChiBitCTy on November 17, 2017, 12:47:58 AM
Sure thing!!

Here you go:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Casascius-1-Bit-coin-GOLD-RIM-1-700-CONFIRMED-FULLY-LOADED/292319530038

Nice! That is a great find, and I am sure he is a reputable seller (as mentioned by others in this thread). Only downside, I do not believe this one on eBay was graded? So hopefully mine would pull a slightly better premium.

Valid point. The coin looks nice, but it’s not a graded 68 (at least yet)


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: ifyoubuildit on November 17, 2017, 01:50:04 AM
I would pay 1.55 + cover shipping & escrow costs.

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Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on November 23, 2017, 04:18:00 AM
Still available. I feel 2BTC is fair market value for this coin at this rating. If anyone is interested, please do PM me. Local would obviously be preferred.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: cptdome1 on November 23, 2017, 09:26:55 PM
Would pay 1.56 BTC for this + shipping and escrow


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on November 26, 2017, 01:43:10 AM
US Thanksgiving weekend bump! Get this beauty now!


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: RealHummer on November 26, 2017, 10:58:09 PM
Question I have on all these coins, all Casascius, Lealana or whoever made the coins is why does the price of BTC affect the coin price. If you were to buy this Gilt coin a few months ago you were looking at 2.2 BTC all day long but now some claim its not worth that being BTC is up. I myself bought a ton of coins as a investment but basically what your saying is I should have just left it in BTC that as BTC rises coin values drop. Why isnt a coin that sold for 2.2 BTC months ago worth 2.2 BTC today? If you were to take a Gilt coin months ago at 2.2btc it had no BCC, BTG loaded either.

Thanks


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: ezeminer on November 26, 2017, 11:30:45 PM
Question I have on all these coins, all Casascius, Lealana or whoever made the coins is why does the price of BTC affect the coin price. If you were to buy this Gilt coin a few months ago you were looking at 2.2 BTC all day long but now some claim its not worth that being BTC is up. I myself bought a ton of coins as a investment but basically what your saying is I should have just left it in BTC that as BTC rises coin values drop. Why isnt a coin that sold for 2.2 BTC months ago worth 2.2 BTC today? If you were to take a Gilt coin months ago at 2.2btc it had no BCC, BTG loaded either.

Thanks
If we were still paying the same premiums we were paying 3 years ago this Gilt would be 3.5-4BTC. which would be approximately 27k for the premium and 11k for the loaded value (including forks)


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: RealHummer on November 26, 2017, 11:32:34 PM
Question I have on all these coins, all Casascius, Lealana or whoever made the coins is why does the price of BTC affect the coin price. If you were to buy this Gilt coin a few months ago you were looking at 2.2 BTC all day long but now some claim its not worth that being BTC is up. I myself bought a ton of coins as a investment but basically what your saying is I should have just left it in BTC that as BTC rises coin values drop. Why isnt a coin that sold for 2.2 BTC months ago worth 2.2 BTC today? If you were to take a Gilt coin months ago at 2.2btc it had no BCC, BTG loaded either.

Thanks
If we were still paying the same premiums we were paying 3 years ago this Gilt would be 3.5-4BTC. which would be approximately 27k for the premium and 11k for the loaded value (including forks)

Thanks,
didnt know they were that high Ouch!! With that being said coins are not a great investment then.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: ezeminer on November 26, 2017, 11:37:42 PM
Question I have on all these coins, all Casascius, Lealana or whoever made the coins is why does the price of BTC affect the coin price. If you were to buy this Gilt coin a few months ago you were looking at 2.2 BTC all day long but now some claim its not worth that being BTC is up. I myself bought a ton of coins as a investment but basically what your saying is I should have just left it in BTC that as BTC rises coin values drop. Why isnt a coin that sold for 2.2 BTC months ago worth 2.2 BTC today? If you were to take a Gilt coin months ago at 2.2btc it had no BCC, BTG loaded either.

Thanks
If we were still paying the same premiums we were paying 3 years ago this Gilt would be 3.5-4BTC. which would be approximately 27k for the premium and 11k for the loaded value (including forks)

Thanks,
didnt know they were that high Ouch!! With that being said coins are not a great investment then.
Granted the price of bitcoin was also $300 each back then so although the BTC value drops the fiat value has been going up.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 02, 2017, 01:11:17 AM
Weekend bump. Still available. This is a MS 68 rated coin, going for cheaper than all unrated ones you can find here!


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: RealHummer on December 02, 2017, 01:24:14 AM
Weekend bump. Still available. This is a MS 68 rated coin, going for cheaper than all unrated ones you can find here!

How long have you had this coin and did you have it graded and if so when.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 02, 2017, 01:29:21 AM
Weekend bump. Still available. This is a MS 68 rated coin, going for cheaper than all unrated ones you can find here!

How long have you had this coin and did you have it graded and if so when.

Picked this up in December of 2013. Funded. In its original hard casing. It remained in it until about 2 months ago, when it was sent to ANACS to be graded. After which it was placed into the standard ANACS vacuum seal or whatever it is. There are pics in the original post, which I am unable to embed due to being a low rating on the forum.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 07, 2017, 12:52:31 AM
With BTC reaching an ALL TIME HIGH DAY AFTER DAY, I am open to offers. If we can get a deal done this weekend, the better the deal. Looking only for CASH IN HAND IN PERSON and between 1.8BTC to 2BTC. If that means you travel to my location, I will eat the travel costs.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: RealHummer on December 07, 2017, 02:10:47 AM
Id be interested at 1.6. Any chance in meeting me in the Buffalo area if I fly up Saturday or Sunday? I prefer not to go through customs and Im not sure if I still have the Customs sticker needed on the plane to fly back into the states, has to be renewed yearly and I havent done so. Looks like just over 240 nautical miles.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 07, 2017, 03:32:38 AM
Id be interested at 1.6. Any chance in meeting me in the Buffalo area if I fly up Saturday or Sunday? I prefer not to go through customs and Im not sure if I still have the Customs sticker needed on the plane to fly back into the states, has to be renewed yearly and I havent done so. Looks like just over 240 nautical miles.

Tempting... but I wouldn't go anywhere under 1.8 if I was coming to you. I will keep this offer in mind though.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 08, 2017, 11:29:33 PM
Weekend bump. Offer still stands as found in the OP.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 12, 2017, 11:08:32 PM
Still available. I suggest getting in before the price climbs any higher!  :D


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 16, 2017, 01:07:47 AM
Accepting BTC with Escrow, with any reasonable offer. Buyer pays.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: HabBear on December 16, 2017, 06:37:21 AM
No one's going to help this fell crypto lover out by quoting their pics to post them properly?




and now that you all can see them, these coins are being priced WAY under value on this thread.

Anything under 2BTC is worthy of being laughed at. Any thing over 2BTC PER COIN is worth of consideration, but only if proper speculation is applied to the offer.

TL;DR: don't insult us.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: dazedfool on December 16, 2017, 06:46:19 AM
No one's going to help this fell crypto lover out by quoting their pics to post them properly?


and now that you all can see them, these coins are being priced WAY under value on this thread.

Anything under 2BTC is worthy of being laughed at. Any thing over 2BTC PER COIN is worth of consideration, but only if proper speculation is applied to the offer.

TL;DR: don't insult us.

you sir, are worthy of being laughed at. you are not one of "us"


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: nubbins on December 16, 2017, 03:47:22 PM
No one's going to help this fell crypto lover out by quoting their pics to post them properly?

Yeah, no one except literally the first reply in the thread.

and now that you all can see them, these coins are being priced WAY under value on this thread.

lol

Anything under 2BTC is worthy of being laughed at. Any thing over 2BTC PER COIN is worth of consideration, but only if proper speculation is applied to the offer.

LOL

TL;DR: don't insult us.

 ???


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 16, 2017, 04:21:35 PM
Is 1.7 too much still? I have seen ungraded go for 1.6 recently... so I still cannot believe no one is willing to come to the table and make a deal.  ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: Zyro on December 16, 2017, 04:24:45 PM
I think 2+  is unreasonable at today's market prices.   
1.7 sounds more reasonable but finding the right buyer is going to be the biggest problem.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 16, 2017, 05:19:33 PM
I think 2+  is unreasonable at today's market prices.   
1.7 sounds more reasonable but finding the right buyer is going to be the biggest problem.

Well I have the range 1.7 to 2, and I also opened up to payment with BTC using an escrow. Had an offer for 1.2 after that. I just don't understand it...


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: cptdome1 on December 16, 2017, 06:49:30 PM
I think 2+  is unreasonable at today's market prices.   
1.7 sounds more reasonable but finding the right buyer is going to be the biggest problem.

Well I have the range 1.7 to 2, and I also opened up to payment with BTC using an escrow. Had an offer for 1.2 after that. I just don't understand it...

I'd offer you around 1.3BTC for it.  Yes less than what I would have paid in BTC terms a month ago but should still be on par with the fiat premium I am willing to pay


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 16, 2017, 07:01:22 PM
I think 2+  is unreasonable at today's market prices.   
1.7 sounds more reasonable but finding the right buyer is going to be the biggest problem.

Well I have the range 1.7 to 2, and I also opened up to payment with BTC using an escrow. Had an offer for 1.2 after that. I just don't understand it...

I'd offer you around 1.3BTC for it.  Yes less than what I would have paid in BTC terms a month ago but should still be on par with the fiat premium I am willing to pay

Can you explain how an ungraded coin goes for 1.6 this week, and your offer is sitting at 1.3? Is the coin worth less after its been graded?


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: cptdome1 on December 16, 2017, 07:07:58 PM
I can only explain what I'm willing to spend for a premium for this coin.  In November that was price was 1.56BTC, after the daily all time highs its now 1.3BTC



Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: ezeminer on December 16, 2017, 10:33:50 PM
Can you explain how an ungraded coin goes for 1.6 this week, and your offer is sitting at 1.3? Is the coin worth less after its been graded?
It's a buyers market now. With so many people trying to offload casascius coins it is driving the price down.

In my opinion I would HODL till these coins hit auction houses.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: HabBear on December 17, 2017, 02:54:55 AM
This kind of buyer psychology and behaviour - where as the conversion rate of fiat to bitcoin increases the premium buyers are willing to pay goes down - proves that the market still doesn't think of bitcoin as a currency that can stand alone.

If buyers of these coins are always thinking about the coin values in terms of fiat than the market is driven by speculation only and not for the love, armiration, or appreciation of bitcoin or cassascius' role in starting this physical crypto scene.

I don't understand it. It's sad. I'll probably never sell my coins until the buying behaviour comes back around to align with the appreciation "they" all had for these coins during the earliest days.

Question I have on all these coins, all Casascius, Lealana or whoever made the coins is why does the price of BTC affect the coin price. If you were to buy this Gilt coin a few months ago you were looking at 2.2 BTC all day long but now some claim its not worth that being BTC is up. I myself bought a ton of coins as a investment but basically what your saying is I should have just left it in BTC that as BTC rises coin values drop. Why isnt a coin that sold for 2.2 BTC months ago worth 2.2 BTC today? If you were to take a Gilt coin months ago at 2.2btc it had no BCC, BTG loaded either.

Thanks
If we were still paying the same premiums we were paying 3 years ago this Gilt would be 3.5-4BTC. which would be approximately 27k for the premium and 11k for the loaded value (including forks)

Thanks,
didnt know they were that high Ouch!! With that being said coins are not a great investment then.
Granted the price of bitcoin was also $300 each back then so although the BTC value drops the fiat value has been going up.



I'd offer you around 1.3BTC for it.

Didn't Mike sell all these coins for 1.2BTC?! That's the real "face value" of these coins.

Bitcoin adoption and value soars globally and buyers of Cassascius coins try to squeeze the market!

Fucking ironic!

We should stop offering these coins for sale until the buyers start recognizing their real value!


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: Zyro on December 17, 2017, 03:31:55 AM
We should stop offering these coins for sale until the buyers start recognizing their real value!

A coin is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.  You can't blame the market for what it is.  


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: dazedfool on December 17, 2017, 06:01:42 AM
I think 2+  is unreasonable at today's market prices.   
1.7 sounds more reasonable but finding the right buyer is going to be the biggest problem.

Well I have the range 1.7 to 2, and I also opened up to payment with BTC using an escrow. Had an offer for 1.2 after that. I just don't understand it...

I'd offer you around 1.3BTC for it.  Yes less than what I would have paid in BTC terms a month ago but should still be on par with the fiat premium I am willing to pay

Can you explain how an ungraded coin goes for 1.6 this week, and your offer is sitting at 1.3? Is the coin worth less after its been graded?

who sold one for 1.6?


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: Lesbian Cow on December 17, 2017, 08:20:38 AM
No one's going to help this fell crypto lover out by quoting their pics to post them properly?





and now that you all can see them, these coins are being priced WAY under value on this thread.

Anything under 2BTC is worthy of being laughed at. Any thing over 2BTC PER COIN is worth of consideration, but only if proper speculation is applied to the offer.

TL;DR: don't insult us.

Hi HabBear.

Glad I saw your post as we should be able to do a real simple deal, should be quick given anything below 2 btc is a great price for a buyer given your above statement.  I will sell you one of my Cas silvers, also graded Ms 68, for 1.95 btc including worldwide shipping.  Escrow with miner Jones is fine and I can have it shpped via overnight on Monday.   Please make payment to minerjones and I will get you a tracking number tomorrow.  

Cheers!

Is 1.7 too much still? I have seen ungraded go for 1.6 recently... so I still cannot believe no one is willing to come to the table and make a deal.  ??? ??? ???

If you want to move the coin 1.6 is probably right around where it would sell in my opinion.  


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: dazedfool on December 17, 2017, 08:53:08 AM
No one's going to help this fell crypto lover out by quoting their pics to post them properly?





and now that you all can see them, these coins are being priced WAY under value on this thread.

Anything under 2BTC is worthy of being laughed at. Any thing over 2BTC PER COIN is worth of consideration, but only if proper speculation is applied to the offer.

TL;DR: don't insult us.

Hi HabBear.

Glad I saw your post as we should be able to do a real simple deal, should be quick given anything below 2 btc is a great price for a buyer given your above statement.  I will sell you one of my Cas silvers, also graded Ms 68, for 1.95 btc including worldwide shipping.  Escrow with miner Jones is fine and I can have it shpped via overnight on Monday.   Please make payment to minerjones and I will get you a tracking number tomorrow.  

Cheers!


OH SHIT HABBOTROLLIO, WHAT AN OFFER!

YOU WOULD BE A FOOL, NAY A DAZED FOOL, TO NOT JUMP ON THAT DEAL

PUT SOME MONEY WHERE YOUR BIG MOUTH IS


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: HabBear on December 17, 2017, 02:19:46 PM
PUT SOME MONEY WHERE YOUR BIG MOUTH IS

My money is already in Cassascius coins, i'm not going to support the weakening buyer's premium. That's consistent with everything I've said here.

To someone else who said  the maket is what buyers and sellers make it - i totally agree, and that gets to the root of my point; this market is driven more by appreciation for USD than for Bitcoin and that seller's can change that if they want to.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 17, 2017, 05:07:52 PM

Is 1.7 too much still? I have seen ungraded go for 1.6 recently... so I still cannot believe no one is willing to come to the table and make a deal.  ??? ??? ???

If you want to move the coin 1.6 is probably right around where it would sell in my opinion.  

I am definitely motivated at this time. I would probably take 1.65 today, even though again an ungraded went for 1.6 late this past week, its a tough pill to swallow.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: nubbins on December 17, 2017, 06:14:17 PM
I don't understand it. It's sad.

If you actually do not understand why nobody is interested in paying a 1 BTC premium for a privately-minted novelty silver round, then yes, that is sad.

Leaving fiat out of the equation, one bitcoin is worth materially more today than it was worth a year ago. One bitcoin can buy you a car. Or a down payment on a house. Or a pound of gold.

Is a novelty silver round from 2013 worth so much that the collector's premium on it is equal to a POUND OF GOLD?

Is it really?


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casacius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: Lesbian Cow on December 17, 2017, 06:20:44 PM
I don't understand it. It's sad.

If you actually do not understand why nobody is interested in paying a 1 BTC premium for a privately-minted novelty silver round, then yes, that is sad.

Leaving fiat out of the equation, one bitcoin is worth materially more today than it was worth a year ago. One bitcoin can buy you a car. Or a down payment on a house. Or a pound of gold.

Is a novelty silver round from 2013 worth so much that the collector's premium on it is equal to a POUND OF GOLD?

Is it really?

Well said Nubbins!

HabBear, do you have any photos of your Casascius collection as I would love to see if it exists.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: Bitcoinwaist on December 17, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
Just an observation but i think the people that wanted and could afford cas coins have them and arent going to buy unless its their price. Its a buyers market now imo. Until word gets out that these coins actually exist and more markets to sell open ,other than here or ebay, it may be tough moving them. We need someone on cnbc to show a cas coin during an interview.
Just my 2c


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: cptdome1 on December 17, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
how motivated are you?  what about doing an auction?


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: Zyro on December 17, 2017, 07:34:52 PM
how motivated are you?  what about doing an auction?

I'm sure a action would start at a price that no one would want to bid at, or a reserve price around where they are trying to sell it now.  This seller clearly has a price in their mind and will not sell under that.   Which is their right.



Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 17, 2017, 07:46:16 PM
how motivated are you?  what about doing an auction?

I'm sure a action would start at a price that no one would want to bid at, or a reserve price around where they are trying to sell it now.  This seller clearly has a price in their mind and will not sell under that.   Which is their right.



I have an idea what I am willing to let it go at. Again... if there are  ANY comparables that sold at 1.2 to 1.5 recently, please let me know. I am always open to negotiation and reasonable offers as stated in the OP.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 19, 2017, 04:13:50 AM
Need this gone. Looking for 1.6BTC. Let me know. Buyer pays Escrow.


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: dazedfool on December 19, 2017, 05:18:39 AM
Need this gone. Looking for 1.6BTC. Let me know. Buyer pays Escrow.

1.5 tonight  ;)


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: eddie13 on December 19, 2017, 09:08:07 AM
Need this gone. Looking for 1.6BTC. Let me know. Buyer pays Escrow.

1.5 tonight  ;)

That's like almost $10,000 premium on a coin which is amazing to me for a coin that is only a couple years old and only really worth like $15 bullion value..

Not that I'm saying it isn't worth it but wow isn't that something..


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: dazedfool on December 19, 2017, 08:35:15 PM
Need this gone. Looking for 1.6BTC. Let me know. Buyer pays Escrow.

1.5 tonight  ;)

That's like almost $10,000 premium on a coin which is amazing to me for a coin that is only a couple years old and only really worth like $15 bullion value..

Not that I'm saying it isn't worth it but wow isn't that something..

~$10000 today... ~$5000 a few weeks ago... $100 a couple years ago... ~$50000 next year?

I MUST BE NUTTERBUTTERS  :P


Title: Re: [WTS] 2013 Casascius 1 BTC GILT FUNDED (MS 68)
Post by: captnlolers on December 21, 2017, 12:36:40 AM
** SOLD **