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Title: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: siennamar on July 07, 2013, 11:53:38 AM
 Name some decent strategy which i can use hamichi with as i want to play online with a few friend's .


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: worldinacoin on July 07, 2013, 11:59:43 AM
I wonder if LOL is considered?  But you sure need strategy in order to win.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: BitcoinBarrel on July 07, 2013, 02:56:15 PM
Poker?


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: worldinacoin on July 09, 2013, 04:33:09 AM
runescape is also quite good, if you can stand the graphics which is quite old fashioned.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: freedomno1 on July 09, 2013, 04:38:04 AM
Risk or Civ
Risk on Kongregate is World Destruction
Civ is Civ


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Moebius327 on July 09, 2013, 11:33:23 AM
Starcraft


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: hany103 on July 10, 2013, 10:32:22 AM
Company of Heroes 2
Starcraft II
Command & Conquer (Still in Development)


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: bitcoinator on July 10, 2013, 10:34:36 AM
what about command and conquer red alert 2 :) old but best  :-*

+1, I love that game... in multiplayer game you have a hope to recover even if you have just 1 building or 1 unit left (you could sell the building and get a unit from it, and then find a chest with MCV).


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: hany103 on July 10, 2013, 10:58:05 AM
what about command and conquer red alert 2 :) old but best  :-*

+1, I love that game... in multiplayer game you have a hope to recover even if you have just 1 building or 1 unit left (you could sell the building and get a unit from it, and then find a chest with MCV).


yeah but your opponent will be attacking you sooner before you recover and build your barracks :P


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: bitcoin44me on July 10, 2013, 11:42:22 AM
Warcraft!


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: bitcoinator on July 10, 2013, 12:24:35 PM
what about command and conquer red alert 2 :) old but best  :-*

+1, I love that game... in multiplayer game you have a hope to recover even if you have just 1 building or 1 unit left (you could sell the building and get a unit from it, and then find a chest with MCV).


yeah but your opponent will be attacking you sooner before you recover and build your barracks :P

Yes, if he finds you ) in multiplayer games you often have allies with GAP generators that would help ) and often you pick up many chests with $$$ before you find an MCV, so you can recover really fast. Though you could find a mine as well... But you know, 1 unit or building is just a hope, not a guarantee to win ) At least you can continue playing, unlike warcraft, starcraft and many other games, where you can have a developed base, but if you don't have units and money, then you are done.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: steelmets on July 10, 2013, 01:25:45 PM
Monopoly


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Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Dacm4n on July 10, 2013, 06:01:35 PM
Warcraft 3 was a lot of fun a few years back. I'm not sure if people still play it online though. But you did mention your playing with friends so it should be fine.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Abdussamad on July 10, 2013, 08:26:07 PM
Rise of nations. Old but very good.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Lethn on July 10, 2013, 10:02:13 PM
Supreme Commander, the second one sucks though and there's Rome Total War, I think everything Creative Assembly made after that has been crap sadly and DRM infested.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: PrintMule on July 10, 2013, 10:13:26 PM
what about command and conquer red alert 2 :) old but best  :-*

Why not the 3rd? I loved it as much as I did 2nd. Me and my buddy completed last soviet mission on the first try, by crazy suicide tactics with only 2 second till countdown. It was the ultimate coop xperience :)

Other CnC games like tiberian sun sucked a bit in multiplayer. Storywise they were awesome but multi lacked.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: martin595 on July 12, 2013, 04:13:56 AM
I recommend international cricket captain as best strategy game for cricket lovers.




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Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Priceslide on July 17, 2013, 03:53:02 AM
Command and Conquer RA2 was probably the best RTS known to man


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: realestone on July 17, 2013, 04:02:07 AM
i did at one time play world of warcraft every night for 2 years lol i stopped started up again then stopped again drove my wife mad


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Aristotle on July 17, 2013, 10:43:13 AM
I just bought Crusader Kings 2 the other day. I believe the genre this game belongs to is called "grand strategy." Most complex strategy game I've ever played. Crusader Kings 2 itself is kind of like a mix between strategy and RPG, where you have to shape your dynasty. There's also a Game of Thrones mod for it set in Westeros that looks pretty good, but I haven't played it yet.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: yayayo on July 17, 2013, 03:35:36 PM
Chess


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Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: desired_username on July 17, 2013, 08:35:43 PM
My all time favourite is starcraft 2. The only game I still play.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: mufa23 on July 17, 2013, 08:44:00 PM
Supreme Commander, the second one sucks though
+1

Total Annihilation
Supreme Commander
Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance
Planetary Annihilation (currently in alpha/beta, but looks like it will be good)

(I like chris taylor/gas powered games, and the development team)

And of course: Chess.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: PrintMule on July 18, 2013, 10:06:55 AM
Heroes of might and magic 3 :) playing it right now

New King's bounty is a great remake made recently.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: jacktarli on July 18, 2013, 06:24:33 PM
All Total War games are good


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: CoinsForTech on July 19, 2013, 01:38:11 AM
I wonder if LOL is considered?  But you sure need strategy in order to win.

Haha when I saw the thread title I wondered if LOL would be brought up - first post I am impressed!

One of my housemates plays LOL nonstop and loves it. I'm more of a Final Fantasy guy myself, but I suppose that's more RPG.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: 4mherewego on July 19, 2013, 10:05:01 AM
Took me a while but I finally beat Civilization III Conquest on difficulty level "Sid". Give that a try, it will keep you busy for a few days!


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on July 19, 2013, 11:21:29 AM
Command & Conquer Red Alert 2 (expansion not really required, the base game still awesome and I believe its free)
     ""              ""     3: Tiberium Wars (And Kane's Wrath expansion)
Starcraft 2
Warcraft 3
Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War I and II


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: worldinacoin on July 19, 2013, 01:46:32 PM
I recommend international cricket captain as best strategy game for cricket lovers.

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Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: tysat on July 19, 2013, 02:32:08 PM
I'd suggest DOTA 2 over LOL, better meta-game strategy in my opinion.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Lethn on July 19, 2013, 03:57:55 PM
The problem with LoL is it's basically a multiplayer only game and there are a serious number of control freak douchebags on that game that I encountered lol.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Shaltuum on July 19, 2013, 08:06:49 PM
Try Europa Universalis 3 or Hearts of Iron 3 if you want real strategy.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Lethn on July 19, 2013, 08:27:03 PM
You know something, I wish someone would make more turn based/RTS games that weren't just based off bloody history or just terrible parodies of it, where did all the imagination in the games industry go? I'm also getting sick of being constantly reminded about World War 2 every fucking year, get over it already people!


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: mprep on July 19, 2013, 09:21:34 PM
Civ series are pretty good. Civ 4 is pretty new and has better AI than the latest (at least that's what the critics say since I haven't tried out the latest one). Tropico 4 is also good; it's really enjoyable to run a little totalitarist country in the Caribbean or, if you want, actually bother with democracy.  ;D


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: tysat on July 19, 2013, 09:28:30 PM
Civ series are pretty good. Civ 4 is pretty new and has better AI than the latest (at least that's what the critics say since I haven't tried out the latest one). Tropico 4 is also good; it's really enjoyable to run a little totalitarist country in the Caribbean or, if you want, actually bother with democracy.  ;D

Civ 5 AI is crazy.... had a game where people were my allies for a long time, then just randomly decided to attack me.  Wouldn't really recommend Civ 5 unless you can get it on sale.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: mprep on July 19, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
Civ series are pretty good. Civ 4 is pretty new and has better AI than the latest (at least that's what the critics say since I haven't tried out the latest one). Tropico 4 is also good; it's really enjoyable to run a little totalitarist country in the Caribbean or, if you want, actually bother with democracy.  ;D

Civ 5 AI is crazy.... had a game where people were my allies for a long time, then just randomly decided to attack me.  Wouldn't really recommend Civ 5 unless you can get it on sale.
Sounds weird. I have Civ 4  and the AI is great (even the critics agree on this one) while my friend recently bought the 5th during the Steam Summer sale. I think there is a 75% off discount now on Steam. Since he bought it recently, he doesn't have any complaints about the AI yet.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Akka on July 19, 2013, 09:49:29 PM
Civ series are pretty good. Civ 4 is pretty new and has better AI than the latest (at least that's what the critics say since I haven't tried out the latest one). Tropico 4 is also good; it's really enjoyable to run a little totalitarist country in the Caribbean or, if you want, actually bother with democracy.  ;D

Civ 5 AI is crazy.... had a game where people were my allies for a long time, then just randomly decided to attack me.  Wouldn't really recommend Civ 5 unless you can get it on sale.
Sounds weird. I have Civ 4  and the AI is great (even the critics agree on this one) while my friend recently bought the 5th during the Steam Summer sale. I think there is a 75% off discount now on Steam.

Civ 4 is awesome. I was so disappointed from Civ 5.

If you want to bring Civ 4 to the top I recommend the Rise of Mankind Mod http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=269

but beware it makes it so complex that one game can take weeks. But this mod makes it certainly the best strategy game ever!


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kluge on July 19, 2013, 10:05:26 PM
I just bought Crusader Kings 2 the other day. I believe the genre this game belongs to is called "grand strategy." Most complex strategy game I've ever played. Crusader Kings 2 itself is kind of like a mix between strategy and RPG, where you have to shape your dynasty. There's also a Game of Thrones mod for it set in Westeros that looks pretty good, but I haven't played it yet.
+1 on CK2, and add Victoria 2 (Vic2 has the typical spammy popup problem with Paradox, and has a tendency toward realism in hegemony, which makes it difficult to do anything unless you're the UK, or able to defeat the UK. CK2 is fairly good about keeping the spam down.).

Civ5's latest Brave New World expansion makes it much more playable (diplomacy AI appears better, but it's still pretty random-seeming), but it's still full of snore-inducing micromanagement, and now there're more pointless popups like "Hey, I heard you like Germany. I like Germany, too." or "Hey, I heard you didn't want to ban clams. I am scripted to also currently dislike having clams banned. I don't like citrus, though. Fuck citrus."

Rome:Total War 2 is coming out this year, but I always get excited, then disappointed by CA. They still haven't figured out combat AI, especially in fort battles (it's better in STW2 than previous attempts, though, so maybe on the right track). If you do a Total War, the farther back they go, the better the mods tend to be at correcting problems in vanilla. SC2, SC, and WC3 all still hold up very well, and C&C & AoE II. If you're into WC3, the DotA map ended up being its own standalone game, and I think there's even a DotA 2, now.

Oh -- you might want to try Sins of a Solar Empire if you haven't. Quirky Stardock product... Strategy's a broad category, though... covers tons of genres, given most games are multi-genre. If you're into a more casual sim kind of strategy, you have Tropico 4 (don't recall if it has MP support, though). There's the new XCOM. You might want to try something like Capitalism II (there's a new Capitalism Labs, which is basically an updated Capitalism II with more features and bugs). There's Wall Street Raider (mostly non-graphical corporation sim with an unreasonable level of depth and complexity on the scale of Dwarf Fortress).


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: mprep on July 19, 2013, 10:08:46 PM
Civ series are pretty good. Civ 4 is pretty new and has better AI than the latest (at least that's what the critics say since I haven't tried out the latest one). Tropico 4 is also good; it's really enjoyable to run a little totalitarist country in the Caribbean or, if you want, actually bother with democracy.  ;D

Civ 5 AI is crazy.... had a game where people were my allies for a long time, then just randomly decided to attack me.  Wouldn't really recommend Civ 5 unless you can get it on sale.
Sounds weird. I have Civ 4  and the AI is great (even the critics agree on this one) while my friend recently bought the 5th during the Steam Summer sale. I think there is a 75% off discount now on Steam.

Civ 4 is awesome. I was so disappointed from Civ 5.

If you want to bring Civ 4 to the top I recommend the Rise of Mankind Mod http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=269

but beware it makes it so complex that one game can take a week. But this mod makes it certainly the best strategy game ever!
Holy crap... :o I looked through the features. There's a LOT of themm. I might actually go back to Civ for a bit.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: leepsteer00 on July 21, 2013, 05:27:17 AM
Clash of Clans? If you're on iOS. :)


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: bitcoindigi on July 21, 2013, 02:54:20 PM
I love star craft!


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: indicasteve on July 24, 2013, 09:23:08 PM
OpenTTD - Open Transport Tycoon Delux

Build transportation networks between cities and industries.  Multiplayer.

Free opensource game.  For win and Linux.

Many servers to play on with different goals.

Search openttd on google to download.



Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: freedomno1 on July 25, 2013, 10:28:01 AM
Eroge

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Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: favdesu on July 25, 2013, 10:30:17 AM
Eroge

I felt like posting :)

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Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Lethn on July 25, 2013, 11:21:19 AM
lol I don't know if management games and stuff are the same as strategy games but I've always really liked Startopia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHothxZQoWo - The thing about the gameplay in this is that it's so amazing they didn't even bother with the stupid cinematic trailers because they didn't need them :D It's also one of the few RTS' I've found where it's not incredibly easy to just gank people with numbers like all the other ones do because of the way the damage works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw4Bdwwu9VY - Startopia is one of my favourite games because well... It's about managing a space station :D

I think the games industry peaked at around 2007 and then just went downhill ever since really.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Fuyuki_Wataru on July 25, 2013, 11:23:50 AM
Europa Universalis 3 is a fun game to play through Hamachi, isn't that big either to download.

Europa Universalis 4 will be released on 13 August. Even better!


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: freedomno1 on July 25, 2013, 11:37:00 PM
Eroge

I felt like posting :)

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Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Shaltuum on July 28, 2013, 01:47:06 PM
You know something, I wish someone would make more turn based/RTS games that weren't just based off bloody history or just terrible parodies of it, where did all the imagination in the games industry go? I'm also getting sick of being constantly reminded about World War 2 every fucking year, get over it already people!

Strategy games are usually about war and WW2 was the biggest, most brutal war in a history of humanity. It's also the most recent big war. Plus, it was the most important event in modern history.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Lethn on July 28, 2013, 01:51:53 PM
Like I said, where's the imagination? Why does everyone have to use World War 2? What's stopping them from having their own huge battles in a made up game world instead? It's not a strategy but I think Planetside 2 did a fantastic job with the scale ( everything else sucks really ) of the game you play that game and you can see players duking it out across an entire canyon, nevermind all the tanks and air pilots going by :D.

If you wanna stick with the world war 2 theme fine or use a historical theme from elsewhere good, I don't see why it all needs to be laughably historical though.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: PrintMule on July 28, 2013, 03:35:08 PM
Fire Emblem series on GBA (emulator?) are really great.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kluge on July 29, 2013, 08:26:56 PM
Like I said, where's the imagination? Why does everyone have to use World War 2? What's stopping them from having their own huge battles in a made up game world instead? It's not a strategy but I think Planetside 2 did a fantastic job with the scale ( everything else sucks really ) of the game you play that game and you can see players duking it out across an entire canyon, nevermind all the tanks and air pilots going by :D.

If you wanna stick with the world war 2 theme fine or use a historical theme from elsewhere good, I don't see why it all needs to be laughably historical though.
Oh -- someone mention Dominions 2/3, yet?

Awesome strategy game with non-Tolkien fantasy theme. You give detailed combat orders for leaders and units before they go into battle - no ability to change course once they're going at it. Tons of unique races with their own benefits and drawbacks (some with massive changes in how the game mechanics work, on top of unique units and leaders). They probably could've gotten away with selling the games with a few races, then selling the others as DLC. It's the only series I can think of where scouting's done properly, too - where you don't get some arbitrary combat bonus, outside of knowing the make-up of squads, which is actually very useful since you can only decide what your armies will do before actually attacking. They also get the concept of "perfect imbalance" done.... perfectly! Reminds me... I haven't played the series in years....


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on July 29, 2013, 08:35:20 PM
Like I said, where's the imagination? Why does everyone have to use World War 2? What's stopping them from having their own huge battles in a made up game world instead? It's not a strategy but I think Planetside 2 did a fantastic job with the scale ( everything else sucks really ) of the game you play that game and you can see players duking it out across an entire canyon, nevermind all the tanks and air pilots going by :D.

If you wanna stick with the world war 2 theme fine or use a historical theme from elsewhere good, I don't see why it all needs to be laughably historical though.
Oh -- someone mention Dominions 2/3, yet?

Awesome strategy game with non-Tolkien fantasy theme. You give detailed combat orders for leaders and units before they go into battle - no ability to change course once they're going at it. Tons of unique races with their own benefits and drawbacks (some with massive changes in how the game mechanics work, on top of unique units and leaders). They probably could've gotten away with selling the games with a few races, then selling the others as DLC. It's the only series I can think of where scouting's done properly, too - where you don't get some arbitrary combat bonus, outside of knowing the make-up of squads, which is actually very useful since you can only decide what your armies will do before actually attacking. They also get the concept of "perfect imbalance" done.... perfectly! Reminds me... I haven't played the series in years....

Well, this sounds me a mix of Starcraft 2 and Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War, what seens a lot of interesting.
Could share more info like website of games?


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kluge on July 29, 2013, 08:42:05 PM
Like I said, where's the imagination? Why does everyone have to use World War 2? What's stopping them from having their own huge battles in a made up game world instead? It's not a strategy but I think Planetside 2 did a fantastic job with the scale ( everything else sucks really ) of the game you play that game and you can see players duking it out across an entire canyon, nevermind all the tanks and air pilots going by :D.

If you wanna stick with the world war 2 theme fine or use a historical theme from elsewhere good, I don't see why it all needs to be laughably historical though.
Oh -- someone mention Dominions 2/3, yet?

Awesome strategy game with non-Tolkien fantasy theme. You give detailed combat orders for leaders and units before they go into battle - no ability to change course once they're going at it. Tons of unique races with their own benefits and drawbacks (some with massive changes in how the game mechanics work, on top of unique units and leaders). They probably could've gotten away with selling the games with a few races, then selling the others as DLC. It's the only series I can think of where scouting's done properly, too - where you don't get some arbitrary combat bonus, outside of knowing the make-up of squads, which is actually very useful since you can only decide what your armies will do before actually attacking. They also get the concept of "perfect imbalance" done.... perfectly! Reminds me... I haven't played the series in years....

Well, this sounds me a mix of Starcraft 2 and Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War, what seens a lot of interesting.
Could share more info like website of games?
http://www.illwinter.com/dom3/

Oh - ETA: The DRM on that can be a bitch. If you decide to pirate before buying, write a key on paper, then type it in. You can't copy/paste a key, and it seems able to detect if you alt-tab in and out. If it doesn't work the first time you enter the code, uninstall, reinstall, and try again. You'll know you fucked up if you close D3, open it again, and the UI's missing in-game. I don't keep physical manuals around because it isn't 1980. I have receipts of the purchases in my email account, but they only distributed keys in the physical manual, so I had to pirate yet another game I own.  ::)


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kluge on August 07, 2013, 06:41:35 AM
Some upcoming strategy games (all with MP) I'm excited about:
Europa Universalis 4 (Aug 13)
I don't think Paradox has ever released a sequel which deviates from the spirit of the game and isn't objectively an improvement over the predecessor (the GUI is quite foreign-looking and interesting in screenshots), so if you like EU3 (or Vic2, or CK2)... hype @ http://www.europauniversalis4.com/
Rome: Total War 2 (Sep 3)
I'm skeptical of CA and everything they say. AI's always garbage, and I'm not playing some 10-hour game with online goons. But... there's always so much potential - and if you're into spectacle, the released screenshots are shockingly beautiful. hype @ http://www.totalwar.com/en_US/rome2/
Rise of Venice (Sep 27)
Rise of Venice was announced a couple months ago. There's not a ton of info on it, but I'm assuming it will be similar to other sea trading games around Ren times (though hopefully an improvement!). hype @ http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/showthread.php?tid=18821



Some others:
Saints Row 4 (unapologetically fun GTA clone) is also slated to be released on August 20th. hype @ http://www.saintsrow.com/news/detail/article/263381/dev_diary_1

Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs (true survival horror) is set to be released.... sometime this year (lots of delays). In the meantime, if you haven't played Amnesia: The Dark Descent, or any Frictional games, but like horror... play them. Dead Space is a kiddie rollercoaster in comparison. hype @ http://aamfp.com/

There's a re-release ("re-invention") of C&C being set to be released this year, but EA is publishing, so no links.

End of Nations may be released... sometime. It's kind of a tactical f2p online RTS. I played a looong time ago in closed alpha ('11). It was pretty horrible (bad enough that I unsubscribed from email updates on top of stopping playing), but also very incomplete at the time. It's apparently still quite incomplete. hype @ http://www.endofnations.com/

ETA: Dominions 4 was also announced not too long ago. Color scheme on GUI looks absolutely horrible, and is basically just a set of improvements on Dominions 3, as 3 was an improvement on 2. Illwinter's incompetent at marketing, so Dominions 4 is the same price as Dom3. ::) (I'm still excited about it, though!) hype @ http://www.illwinter.com/dom4/


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Lethn on August 07, 2013, 10:29:42 AM
Quote
I'm skeptical of CA and everything they say. AI's always garbage, and I'm not playing some 10-hour game with online goons. But... there's always so much potential - and if you're into spectacle, the released screenshots are shockingly beautiful. hype @ http://www.totalwar.com/en_US/rome2/

I wasn't going to really say anything but when I saw the release date I couldn't resist, that is almost certainly a Shogun 2 mod rather than a new game, the release date is too short, I remember seeing an interview with a demo and the developer totally dodged questions about diplomacy which of course means the A.I is probably going to be the same hyper-aggressive assholes they were in Shogun 2 which rather ruined the game for me because I like building stuff in RTS' more than fighting.

They should take a lesson in Minecraft and offer different game types to suit everyones play style rather than force them to play along with one style and ignore them, you can do that without re-writing the whole game, if you can't, then your programming or design is shit.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on August 07, 2013, 11:07:09 AM
Can't wait to see the Open Beta of the C&C(totally based on the Generals series). THe Generals and his expansion was a good game, a lot of a rusher game with in-mass army production if played well, but less rusher than C&C 3: Tiberium Wars, and easier to overcome an economic attack. One aspect that I don't like about C&C that SC2 had a good solution, is that your base is all open, to be attackable most of the times in 360, while in SC2 your work your way with ramps.
This second Amnesia must be awesome, I loved the Dark Descent, those guys are the best in what they do.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: HereToTrade on August 07, 2013, 08:14:16 PM
My favourite is poker. It included strategic thinking but also a good amount of luck. You may be a good player but with no luck it is hard to win. I am sure you will agree with me.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on August 08, 2013, 01:31:29 AM
My favourite is poker. It included strategic thinking but also a good amount of luck. You may be a good player but with no luck it is hard to win. I am sure you will agree with me.

Thats why I play in SC2 the Poker Defense, a mix of Poker and Tower Defense, its an AWESOME time wasting game.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: PrintMule on August 11, 2013, 07:04:22 AM
2 more tactical strategies

Fallouttactics = oldie but goodie
Jagged Alliance 2 = same


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kluge on September 23, 2013, 02:56:26 PM
Some upcoming strategy games (all with MP) I'm excited about:
Europa Universalis 4 (Aug 13)
I don't think Paradox has ever released a sequel which deviates from the spirit of the game and isn't objectively an improvement over the predecessor (the GUI is quite foreign-looking and interesting in screenshots), so if you like EU3 (or Vic2, or CK2)... hype @ http://www.europauniversalis4.com/
Fucking awesome.

Rome: Total War 2 (Sep 3)
I'm skeptical of CA and everything they say. AI's always garbage, and I'm not playing some 10-hour game with online goons. But... there's always so much potential - and if you're into spectacle, the released screenshots are shockingly beautiful. hype @ http://www.totalwar.com/en_US/rome2/
Meh. Recommend you pirate it, then decide if you want it. I uninstalled it after a few hours of play.

Some others:
Saints Row 4 (unapologetically fun GTA clone) is also slated to be released on August 20th. hype @ http://www.saintsrow.com/news/detail/article/263381/dev_diary_1
Good. Yahtzee did a fine review of it.

Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs (true survival horror) is set to be released.... sometime this year (lots of delays). In the meantime, if you haven't played Amnesia: The Dark Descent, or any Frictional games, but like horror... play them. Dead Space is a kiddie rollercoaster in comparison. hype @ http://aamfp.com/
Skipped Machine for Pigs. Reviews have it pegged as being pretty horrible. Frictional "outsourced" to the people who did Dear Esthar (HL2 mod), and allegedly, it came out as Dear Esthar, but using Frictional's game engine. Some compared it to a bad story mod for Amnesia: TDD. There are actually a bunch of story mods (overhauls, in a way -- it's a "different game") for TDD, maybe worth trying instead of Machine for Pigs.


I've been playing Eador:Genesis recently from an Extra Credits recommendation. Not near the end, I don't think -- there's a "microgame" which is RTS and takes 1-5 hours each, and a macrogame which contains all the different microgames. Winning microgames ("shards") progresses you on the macrogame, and it isn't linear (I don't think, but maybe -- that moralfag wizard really hates me no matter how nice I try to be toward peasants) -- this isn't unique, but it's implemented well enough and very fun. Microgames are old-style HOMM, hex-style. Everywhere you can move, you can conquer. It has a kind of dungeoncrawler feel to it (RPG elements, similar to HOMM), and the music reminds me oddly of Everquest. Idunno if it was the same guy or not, but maybe nostalgia is clouding my vision. Anyway, it's pretty fun. There's a lot of content, and it's actually difficult, which is nice to see anymore. There's a newer Eador... Masters of a Broken World, I think. I haven't had time to play that one. I have a feeling the original will take me at least a month to finish.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on September 23, 2013, 03:22:23 PM

Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs (true survival horror) is set to be released.... sometime this year (lots of delays). In the meantime, if you haven't played Amnesia: The Dark Descent, or any Frictional games, but like horror... play them. Dead Space is a kiddie rollercoaster in comparison. hype @ http://aamfp.com/
Skipped Machine for Pigs. Reviews have it pegged as being pretty horrible. Frictional "outsourced" to the people who did Dear Esthar (HL2 mod), and allegedly, it came out as Dear Esthar, but using Frictional's game engine. Some compared it to a bad story mod for Amnesia: TDD. There are actually a bunch of story mods (overhauls, in a way -- it's a "different game) TDD, maybe worth trying instead of Machine for Pigs.

This.
TDD is way better. BUt if you want a really good horror game from an Indie developer, play Outlast. It's just perfect, seeing from all the shit that AAA companies throw at us thinking that they games are good. Like, what they did to Resident Evil and Silent Hill? Playing those Indie games I feel good looking back to the old RE, SH and Alone in the Dark.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: makebitcoin on September 23, 2013, 06:26:46 PM
Chess and poker :) Online poker was a goldmine back in the day. I miss those days :(


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Bjork on September 24, 2013, 01:02:17 AM
Weiqi

you can play it online for free, also.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kluge on September 26, 2013, 12:34:57 PM
Rise of Venice is still supposed to hit tomorrow. It doesn't have much hype or even information about it, but it's from Kalypso, so maybe some hope.

Dominions 4 is marked to be released in two days, though that's some type of "preliminary release date." If you pre-order, you can play the alpha - maybe prelim is beta. It's Dominions 3 (but 4), so they couldn't have introduced too many new bugs.  :D

Mech Mice is supposed to be released on October 8th. Mech Mice is an online 3D "turn-based, tactical squad game" designed with tweens in mind (I have no idea if it's an MMO). Hype @ www.mechmice.com/‎

Defense Technica is slated to release for PC on October 10th. It's a TD designed for smartphones I've never played. It's supposed to be a fairly well-done implementation in the genre. Hype @ http://global.com2us.com/ (I think they were going for a unique way to write "come to us" and decided not to use "cum to us" - or it was already taken... hard to say.)

An "enhanced edition" of Baldur's Gate II is set to be released on November 15th (with the caveat of Atari having a hand in it). They already re-released BG1, which features "over 400 improvements to the original game," but I haven't gotten around to it. Somehow, they also released a phone version. Go figure. Hype @ http://www.baldursgate.com/


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on September 26, 2013, 02:26:41 PM
Arma Tactics: another XCOM Enemy Unknown, but from another game dev?


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: b!z on September 26, 2013, 02:42:20 PM
There are plenty of good games listed in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=284839.240

Take a look.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: PrintMule on September 26, 2013, 06:01:28 PM
Avoid space hulk 2013

It sucks balls like it's really trying to


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: oli123123 on September 26, 2013, 06:56:30 PM
Command & Conquer Generals with Zero Hour expansion pack.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Morbid on September 26, 2013, 07:29:10 PM
forged alliance forever:
http://www.faforever.com/

a community based game which is based on supreme commander - forged alliance. in my opinion best rts to date. if you played total annihilation in nineties then you'll love this.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on September 26, 2013, 08:39:56 PM
Command & Conquer Generals with Zero Hour expansion pack.

Lve the C&C Series :)
This is a very good. Very distinct units and structures between each faction.
Love Rushing with GLA :3


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: faiza1990 on September 26, 2013, 10:34:48 PM
I think you can give try Chess its best and good I love this


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: zubelutte on September 26, 2013, 10:40:34 PM
Weiqi

you can play it online for free, also.


Weird name  :)

I can not even guess what the game might be about  :)


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kouye on September 27, 2013, 12:04:25 AM
Weiqi
you can play it online for free, also.

Wow, so usagi was not the only go player around... :)
I'm playing too, as an everlasting newbie (around 3k on european ladder).

And to OP, ever tried some "real" table games on sites such as http://www.brettspielwelt.de/ ?
7 wonders, Caylus, Puerto Rico, etc.

So many hours of pure joy.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: b!z on September 28, 2013, 06:47:07 AM
Civiilization is good.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: oli123123 on September 28, 2013, 07:37:37 AM
Command & Conquer Generals with Zero Hour expansion pack.

Lve the C&C Series :)
This is a very good. Very distinct units and structures between each faction.
Love Rushing with GLA :3

Yeah, i always play it with my brother, it never gets old.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: trumbadera on September 28, 2013, 08:45:43 AM
Civiilization is good.

Yes, especially Civ 4  is playable with its decent AI


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: b!z on September 28, 2013, 02:29:04 PM
Civiilization is good.

Yes, especially Civ 4  is playable with its decent AI
I think Civ 3 was good too.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: MargaretsDream on September 28, 2013, 05:16:52 PM
Chess and poker :) Online poker was a goldmine back in the day. I miss those days :(

I guess your from US then. For others, it is business as usual  :)


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Welsh on September 28, 2013, 11:07:06 PM
C & C series are very good. Red alert, Generals. They are all good and can be very competitive when playing with friends. Although, be warned you will be addicted shortly after playing.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: wearepoor on September 29, 2013, 07:37:33 AM
I play Total War - Rome 2

Very good strategy game


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Anon135246 on September 29, 2013, 11:43:24 AM
The original Red Alert.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: b!z on September 29, 2013, 02:24:02 PM
The original Red Alert.

Command and Conquer FTW!


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: masyveonk on September 29, 2013, 02:55:02 PM
The original Red Alert.

Any Command and Conquer is good.


Does anybody remember Dune 2 ? This was great RTS  :)


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Anon135246 on September 29, 2013, 04:32:18 PM
I loved Dune 2 aswell.  Still my all time favourite pc game is UT99.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: PrintMule on September 29, 2013, 05:41:03 PM
The original Red Alert.

Any Command and Conquer is good.


Does anybody remember Dune 2 ? This was great RTS  :)

I remember how I used to listen on ending credit song on sega port, after beating final mission, as a kid.

As for C&C - I hated generals (btw new generals will come out in october or november).
And C&C Tiberium saga 4. It was so horridly done, and storyline, and gameplay, utter shit, all of it. It was so sad to see it end like this.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on September 29, 2013, 07:14:38 PM
IDK y you hate the Generals. Except for a bit buggy movement of the units, I think is pretty nice.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: mprep on September 29, 2013, 08:24:23 PM
Anyone played Mount and Blade: Warband? It's a mix between strategy and RPG. Really enjoyable. The graphics are pretty poor though but that can be ignored. But the possibilities... From an adventurer to a bandit, from an arena fighter to a noble, from a mercenary to a king. And if you don't like some aspect of the game, there's tons of mods to fix it. The multiplayer is action and hack-n-slash related but still fun to play sometimes


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: PrintMule on September 30, 2013, 04:52:29 PM
IDK y you hate the Generals. Except for a bit buggy movement of the units, I think is pretty nice.

I found it bland compared to other games in the series. No memorable units for me, maybe angry mob and hacker. Other games pack huge storyline with cinematics, sci-fi stuff, detailed non-3d graphics. Although multiplayer felt much better than tiberium sun series. It's not a bad game, just not up to the C&C standart of that time in my eyes.

Still 100x better than tiberium twilight!


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on September 30, 2013, 11:09:30 PM
IDK y you hate the Generals. Except for a bit buggy movement of the units, I think is pretty nice.

I found it bland compared to other games in the series. No memorable units for me, maybe angry mob and hacker. Other games pack huge storyline with cinematics, sci-fi stuff, detailed non-3d graphics. Although multiplayer felt much better than tiberium sun series. It's not a bad game, just not up to the C&C standart of that time in my eyes.

Still 100x better than tiberium twilight!

Any C&C  is better than this 4 shit.
It was their first 3D experience, and they made it pretty well, except the lack of a history.
I recommend you to play with the Zero Hour expansion, it has some remarkable units to me:
Alpha bomber from Defense General, Overlord OP, GLA Bikes rush trough the cliffs, GLA Hijacker laughing after capturing a veicule.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Welsh on September 30, 2013, 11:11:35 PM
IDK y you hate the Generals. Except for a bit buggy movement of the units, I think is pretty nice.

I found it bland compared to other games in the series. No memorable units for me, maybe angry mob and hacker. Other games pack huge storyline with cinematics, sci-fi stuff, detailed non-3d graphics. Although multiplayer felt much better than tiberium sun series. It's not a bad game, just not up to the C&C standart of that time in my eyes.

Still 100x better than tiberium twilight!

Any C&C  is better than this 4 shit.
It was their first 3D experience, and they made it pretty well, except the lack of a history.
I recommend you to play with the Zero Hour expansion, it has some remarkable units to me:
Alpha bomber from Defense General, Overlord OP, GLA Bikes rush trough the cliffs, GLA Hijacker laughing after capturing a veicule.

I haven't played any beyond Zero hour, because in my honest opinion they look shite.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on October 01, 2013, 01:42:58 AM
I haven't played any beyond Zero hour, because in my honest opinion they look shite.

The not so great sequel, Tiberium Wars and Kane's Wrath wasn't bad at all.
The Expansion didn't add good contents that would change drastically the gameplay, or that the factions would change the gameplay at least.
But the history, the actor of Kane, OP Aliens(aka Scrin) and sci-fi tech make me very happy to play it.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: PrintMule on October 01, 2013, 10:06:15 AM
I haven't played any beyond Zero hour, because in my honest opinion they look shite.

The not so great sequel, Tiberium Wars and Kane's Wrath wasn't bad at all.
The Expansion didn't add good contents that would change drastically the gameplay, or that the factions would change the gameplay at least.
But the history, the actor of Kane, OP Aliens(aka Scrin) and sci-fi tech make me very happy to play it.

I loved the way how NOD elite unit upgrades himself, salvaging parts from dead or "alive" units.

There hasn't been a lot of good strategy games lately, even turn-based. I'm hoping for new Age of Wonders game to be good. It releases in 31 october, just when I'm having my birthday :)
EDIT: its Q1 of 2014 actually, so no birthday present for me :\

Maybe dawn of war 3 will crawl out in the future, but no high hopes there. If only I had a team of slave graphics designers in my basement, I would venture to make my own rts or tbs, as this niche is quite empty nowadays.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on October 01, 2013, 11:24:39 AM

I loved the way how NOD elite unit upgrades himself, salvaging parts from dead or "alive" units.

There hasn't been a lot of good strategy games lately, even turn-based. I'm hoping for new Age of Wonders game to be good. It releases in 31 october, just when I'm having my birthday :)
EDIT: its Q1 of 2014 actually, so no birthday present for me :\

Maybe dawn of war 3 will crawl out in the future, but no high hopes there. If only I had a team of slave graphics designers in my basement, I would venture to make my own rts or tbs, as this niche is quite empty nowadays.

Just a note: the NOD's Avatar only can upgrade himself with 4 specific other veicules from your own army. The bike, so it can detect invisible units; the flame tank, so it has a nice OP anti-infantry weapon; the Beam Cannon, so it has a second arm to shoot lasers; and last but most shit: upgranding from a stealth tank, so it can be invisible while stopped if I remember well.

"this niche is quite empty nowadays"
Maybe becase everybody just plays MOBA? Like Dota2, Smite and LoL?


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kluge on January 24, 2014, 02:24:49 AM
tiem fer stratergy! Haven't made additions to this thread in a long while.

Good games already out:
*The Corporate Machine - Old-timey strategy sim by Stardock from around 2000, in the tycoon games category. Reminded me a lot of stuff from Nino Arndt @ Velocigames. Was/is in dire need of mods.... it has the potential for greatness even today, I think, but WYSIYG.
^ http://www.stardock.com/products/machine/order.html ($5)

*Seven Days to Die - Billed as a "survival horde crafting game." It has similarities to Minecraft, but it looks a Hell of a lot better and's actually enjoyable. It has my brain working more like if I were playing Dwarf Fortress, and you'll be rewarded more with enjoyment by taking riskier approaches to survival rather than building a big block castle and dropping a thousand wooden stakes around the perimeter. It's in alpha and has a long way to go, but it's worth a buy & play now with Alpha 6, I think. When they get through the pathing and AI goal (particularly spawning), I think it'll be a real gem. Worth noting this game is hard and there's no pause button (I think there may be a console command, but I just boot up CheatEngine and pause the whole process).
^ http://7daystodie.com/ ($35 - special alpha price) ETA: Maybe I was wrong. Since forging was introduced, the game's taken a heavier veer toward Minecraft's ease and seems to further encourage users to go underground and be boring unless they just want to build things (and then why bother having zombies?)

ETA: Shit... there was another good one I played recently. Turn-based Roguelike with decent graphics and solid content. Was very much like Nethack. I think the game was something like "Dirge of M'eye," and I think the dev company started with a "K." They released the game seemingly more as a demo of the engine which hasn't had many good mods, tbh. Game's free, too! Hey, here we go! http://te4.org/ "Tales of Maj'eyal"

ETA2: The Walking Dead, Season 2 is also out. First episode wasn't particularly exciting.... I'm thinking I should wait until the rest of the episodes come out before buying any more. I didn't play Season 1 one-by-one... I didn't hear about it until later, and I think it may be a superior way to play. I'm not a big fan of long pauses between doing something, especially playing games. While mentioning non-strategy games, Brothers - A Tale of Two Sons also features phenomenal story-telling in the same vein, though with more Sierra-like puzzles (reminded me a bit of the insane asylum game from... I think it was the late 90's.... damn, my memory's malfunctioning, today... maybe even had "asylum" in the game name ETA3: Sanitarium -- good job, brain!).


Disappointing new releases:
*Desktop Dungeons - Basic turn-based roguelike, but severely lacking in content. The graphics are relatively pretty (and by that, I mean they look like a good 2002 sprite-based game) and the UI's fairly easy to grasp. The key feature is supposed to be a "semi-casual" roguelike you can play in short bursts. Not really my thing, but maybe palatable for you.
^ http://www.desktopdungeons.net/ ($15, or play the alpha version for free)

*Card Hunter - I didn't enjoy it, but if you like collectable card games, this may be for you. You play in a kind of scripted "story mode" where you go around doing various quests and whatnot. You play as three characters (which all play simultaneously in matches). It's presented as a kind of RPG, where you win or buy (with real money or in-game money) various equipment which act as sets of cards. These sets of cards all put various cards in your deck when you equip, which you draw from during a match. For example, maybe you equip a Sword of Badassery which has two "Badass Slash" cards, a couple "Badass Parry" cards and a couple unique ability cards attached to it. These, along with your other equipment sets, become the deck you play with. Character classes are done by only allowing certain characters to use certain equipment.
^ http://www.cardhunter.com/ (free, p2w [though you definitely don't have to pay to complete])

Upcoming releases:
*Tropico 5 - Supposed to be a massive overhaul of the series with a ton of experimentation. Excited about it.
^ http://www.tropico5.com/us/info.php (ETA: April 2014)

*Nothing else on my radar. Give me something to look forward to! :'(


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: techgeek on January 24, 2014, 03:06:16 AM
The original Red Alert.

Command and Conquer FTW!

Probably like one of the oldest games around. Very good.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: bitbox on January 24, 2014, 03:55:28 AM
Civilization is my favourite.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: PrintMule on January 24, 2014, 11:47:45 AM
Don't remember if mentioned in this thread by someone else or by me - King's Bounty is a awesome fun strategy.

Also played some good indie games lately.

Prison architect = fun prison tycoon but wears out in a day or two. Not worth the $.

Banner saga = epic tactical rpg, which kinda counts as a strategy. Felt very bad for pirating this one. On the good site, their kickstarter set them at 7x expected profit, so at least they are not starving :)



Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: EvilPanda on January 24, 2014, 02:58:01 PM
Stronghold and all related addons. This game has everything a good strategy should. Age of Empires series was also very good. I can also recommend a good old game named Incubation, not a typical strategy rather a tactical turn based shooter.

Did you notice games are getting more easy and noob friendly? Just look what they did to Red Alert 3 or Supreme Commander 2 - after playing the sequels I felt like the target audience was primary school, or maybe I'm just getting old :D


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: u9y42 on January 24, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
What about Master of Orion II, or Space Empires V? Anyone here liked playing these types of games? (turn based strategy games, set in space)


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: tysat on January 24, 2014, 03:53:15 PM
What about Master of Orion II, or Space Empires V? Anyone here liked playing these types of games? (turn based strategy games, set in space)

MoO 2 was one of my favorite games for a long time, I might just have to go back and reinstall it!


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: u9y42 on January 24, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
What about Master of Orion II, or Space Empires V? Anyone here liked playing these types of games? (turn based strategy games, set in space)

MoO 2 was one of my favorite games for a long time, I might just have to go back and reinstall it!

I've spent way more time playing those games than I care to admit...  ::) particularly Space Empires, with its huge amount of options and ship components. ;D


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Sutters Mill on January 24, 2014, 09:08:06 PM
Not sure if they've already been mentioned but Age of Empires are pretty good games. I also liked Halo Wars.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: mprep on January 25, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
Stronghold and all related addons. This game has everything a good strategy should. Age of Empires series was also very good. I can also recommend a good old game named Incubation, not a typical strategy rather a tactical turn based shooter.

Did you notice games are getting more easy and noob friendly? Just look what they did to Red Alert 3 or Supreme Commander 2 - after playing the sequels I felt like the target audience was primary school, or maybe I'm just getting old :D
Played Stronghold Crusader, so I gotta agree. Really fun and engaging. Some say it's the best Stronghold game and that other went downhill after that. Is it true?


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kluge on January 25, 2014, 09:58:15 AM
Stronghold and all related addons. This game has everything a good strategy should. Age of Empires series was also very good. I can also recommend a good old game named Incubation, not a typical strategy rather a tactical turn based shooter.

Did you notice games are getting more easy and noob friendly? Just look what they did to Red Alert 3 or Supreme Commander 2 - after playing the sequels I felt like the target audience was primary school, or maybe I'm just getting old :D
Played Stronghold Crusader, so I gotta agree. Really fun and engaging. Some say it's the best Stronghold game and that other went downhill after that. Is it true?
From what I remember, 2 & 3 had awful, awful bugs when released on top of a clunkier UI over the franchise genesis. I remember something about archers failing to do damage due to a bug which wasn't fixed before I quit. They're supposed to be releasing a Stronghold: Crusader 2 some time this year. No idea how it'll turn out.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: mprep on January 25, 2014, 10:02:09 AM
Stronghold and all related addons. This game has everything a good strategy should. Age of Empires series was also very good. I can also recommend a good old game named Incubation, not a typical strategy rather a tactical turn based shooter.

Did you notice games are getting more easy and noob friendly? Just look what they did to Red Alert 3 or Supreme Commander 2 - after playing the sequels I felt like the target audience was primary school, or maybe I'm just getting old :D
Played Stronghold Crusader, so I gotta agree. Really fun and engaging. Some say it's the best Stronghold game and that other went downhill after that. Is it true?
From what I remember, 2 & 3 had awful, awful bugs when released on top of a clunkier UI over the franchise genesis. I remember something about archers failing to do damage due to a bug which wasn't fixed before I quit. They're supposed to be releasing a Stronghold: Crusader 2 some time this year. No idea how it'll turn out.
Yeah I heard of a sequel coming. A bit afraid though: they might try to dumb it down to suit a wider audience, not just the strategy players. Or they might try some features which would unbalance the whole game. I've seen so many sequels of older franchises go to waste that I'm beginning to worry whenever I see another one popping up.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kouye on January 25, 2014, 12:45:15 PM
Banner saga = epic tactical rpg, which kinda counts as a strategy. Felt very bad for pirating this one. On the good site, their kickstarter set them at 7x expected profit, so at least they are not starving :)
Thanks for the heads up, playing it now, and having lots of fun!
I paid for it, and might have it missed it without your post, so consider yourself half forgiven. ;)


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: EvilPanda on January 25, 2014, 02:42:40 PM
Stronghold and all related addons. This game has everything a good strategy should. Age of Empires series was also very good. I can also recommend a good old game named Incubation, not a typical strategy rather a tactical turn based shooter.

Did you notice games are getting more easy and noob friendly? Just look what they did to Red Alert 3 or Supreme Commander 2 - after playing the sequels I felt like the target audience was primary school, or maybe I'm just getting old :D
Played Stronghold Crusader, so I gotta agree. Really fun and engaging. Some say it's the best Stronghold game and that other went downhill after that. Is it true?
From what I remember, 2 & 3 had awful, awful bugs when released on top of a clunkier UI over the franchise genesis. I remember something about archers failing to do damage due to a bug which wasn't fixed before I quit. They're supposed to be releasing a Stronghold: Crusader 2 some time this year. No idea how it'll turn out.
Yeah I heard of a sequel coming. A bit afraid though: they might try to dumb it down to suit a wider audience, not just the strategy players. Or they might try some features which would unbalance the whole game. I've seen so many sequels of older franchises go to waste that I'm beginning to worry whenever I see another one popping up.
Stronghold 1+crusader was really the best, only thing it lacked was good graphics. Stronghold 2 was quite good IMO, had some bugs but it was playable. Stronghold 3 was a disaster - it was hard to control units as they'd get stuck over objects, had trouble walking to higher positions like walls and towers. Also the whole isometric angle was fucked so it was difficult to give orders to units as you could click on a building but the game registered it as clicking through it, on the ground behind it. Total mess.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: madzooka on February 02, 2014, 07:21:30 AM
Starcraft 2


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DodoB on February 02, 2014, 02:53:49 PM
Total War Rome 2 !


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on February 03, 2014, 01:40:19 PM
I dunno if I already suggested that, but anyway,
How about Final Fantasy Tactics? (and god not about the FFT A, it sucks, the Judge thing is ridiculous, it removes all the fun of making a strategy)

I really like all the Job Changing thing, and that more than having a job, you have to choose 4 perks to fit better and powerful your characters.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Rannasha on February 03, 2014, 01:58:56 PM
UFO: Enemy Unknown (= the original XCOM) is still one of the best games out there. Careful planning on several levels, suspenseful atmosphere and a completely remorseless game design where your experienced squad can get slaughtered like a bunch of pugs. The flashy new reboot, XCOM Enemy Unknown, is entertaining enough, but lacks the depth of its original.

All incarnations of Starcraft are good. If you're into multiplayer, there's never a dull moment. Singleplayer campaigns are good too, with the most recent Heart of the Swarm campaign being the least good if you're looking for difficulty.

Simulation-games like Transport Tycoon (OpenTTD) and Theme Hospital (CorsixTH) are fun if you like that type of game. The Total War and Civ series are classics with varying degrees of greatness between the different installments in each series.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: u9y42 on February 03, 2014, 01:59:43 PM
I dunno if I already suggested that, but anyway,
How about Final Fantasy Tactics? (and god not about the FFT A, it sucks, the Judge thing is ridiculous, it removes all the fun of making a strategy)

I really like all the Job Changing thing, and that more than having a job, you have to choose 4 perks to fit better and powerful your characters.

I kind of liked the law system in FFTA... it was a bit random if I remember correctly, but it helped make sure you didn't rely on only one strategy, and added some variety to the game. I suppose the same could have been achieve through better means, but I thought it was cool.

EDIT:

UFO: Enemy Unknown (= the original XCOM) is still one of the best games out there. Careful planning on several levels, suspenseful atmosphere and a completely remorseless game design where you experienced squad can get slaughtered like a bunch of pugs. The flashy new reboot, XCOM Enemy Unknown, is entertaining enough, but lacks the depth of its original.

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Yeah, specially if the aliens are using fusion cannons for the first time in that game...   ::)


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kiki112 on February 03, 2014, 02:26:25 PM
Civilization V and Europa Universalis IV

I like Europa Universalis because it's a lot more real then other strategy games,..

much bigger use of diplomacy instead just warfare as in other games :)


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kluge on February 03, 2014, 03:37:40 PM
Civilization V and Europa Universalis IV

I like Europa Universalis because it's a lot more real then other strategy games,..

much bigger use of diplomacy instead just warfare as in other games :)
Patch 1.4 improved EU IV quite a bit over how it used to play (I haven't played since 1.1x). CoP makes natives viable, though procedurally generated New World could do with some tweaking (nonsensical placement of trade hubs, and I really, really wish they didn't use real names... I'd have no idea where most small nations were if not for Paradox games... I'm worried about this messing with my memory). Currently playing a Creek nation in good position for domination... Euros just pushed into the New World. Hopefully can maintain an isolated border with one of them long enough to reform and beat them back off the land. CTDs every now and then for me. Glad the horrible trade redirection bug seems to be fixed.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: DarkHyudrA on February 03, 2014, 06:13:49 PM
I dunno if I already suggested that, but anyway,
How about Final Fantasy Tactics? (and god not about the FFT A, it sucks, the Judge thing is ridiculous, it removes all the fun of making a strategy)

I really like all the Job Changing thing, and that more than having a job, you have to choose 4 perks to fit better and powerful your characters.

I kind of liked the law system in FFTA... it was a bit random if I remember correctly, but it helped make sure you didn't rely on only one strategy, and added some variety to the game. I suppose the same could have been achieve through better means, but I thought it was cool.

I felt that it reduced the strategies to the minimum. And also, in the original FFT, unless you have the OP units using the same strategy all the time isn't much helpful =P


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kluge on March 03, 2014, 10:49:05 AM
New:
*The Banner Saga - Interesting tactical turn-based with emphasis on story, and it's a good one. Fantastic artwork. Low replayability, awful end boss, story occasionally goes off on tangents (I'd guess to make the events in the sequel seem more fluid and meaningful), some mechanics were made to seem important but didn't meaningfully affect gameplay (will leave you to discover for yourself). http://stoicstudio.com/

*Diehard Dungeon (releasing on Steam this Wednesday, but already out elsewhere) - Yet another pixelated, 16-bit, real-time roguelike. This time, though, it's been developed and released by one guy, and is being praised for cramming a ton of content in. http://dieharddungeon.wordpress.com/ (that's right, .wordpress :D )


Upcoming & watching:
*Tower of Guns (tomorrow!) - Dev explains it well. http://www.towerofguns.com/
http://www.towerofguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/NewCartoon1.png

*Age of Wonders III (Q1-Q2 2014) - Unfamiliar with this franchise. Looks a lot like HOMM. www.ageofwonders.com

*Tropico 5 (Q2 2014) - explained previously. www.tropico5.com

*Galactic Civilizations 3 (no ETA, yet) - It's GalCiv.... 3! Moving to 64-bit only and promising everything to be much, much bigger. http://www.galciv3.com/


Other:
*Chris Sawyer has come back from the depths and is developing a minor reboot of Transport Tycoon. Unfortunately, it will only be for mobile devices. As part of Atari's bankruptcy (maybe EA will someday share its fate...!), Rollercoaster Tycoon franchise remains unbought IP. They're asking $3.5M.

*Walking Dead s2e2 coming out tomorrow, too. I think, like the first season, I'm going to skip them until the series is complete, then cram it into a couple days.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: sickhouse on March 03, 2014, 11:44:54 AM
Warcaft III will always be my favourite strategy game.
If you want something a bit more relaxed game try the Anno series.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: Kouye on March 03, 2014, 09:59:51 PM
*The Banner Saga - Interesting tactical turn-based with emphasis on story, and it's a good one. Fantastic artwork. Low replayability, awful end boss, story occasionally goes off on tangents (I'd guess to make the events in the sequel seem more fluid and meaningful), some mechanics were made to seem important but didn't meaningfully affect gameplay (will leave you to discover for yourself). http://stoicstudio.com/
I was finally a bit disappointed, the game is too short for the price they're asking.
When it drops to ~5$, it'll be a must have, though, for the unique scrolling-game-telling, nice story, and turn based fights.
But paying 20$ for 10 hours of game-play seems a bit off to me.

Not really strategy, but I enjoyed M&M 10 Legacy, which kept me busy for much longer.
If you enjoyed MM3 and World of Xeen as much as I did, this is worth a shot, even though it's still inferior, unfortunately.


Title: Re: Name some good stratergy games
Post by: moriartypants on March 04, 2014, 03:29:33 PM
In development that I am keeping my eyes on:


http://clockworkempires.com/
By the studio that made Dungeons of Dreadmor.  Out this spring I think.

Castle Story - Minecraft + Stronghold love child? 
http://www.sauropodstudio.com/
On steam early access.

http://legionsofashworld.com/ - strategy rpg with nice look.

Rimworld - Kickstarted, dunno ETA