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I just spotted this junk tootling about Alt Bay:

http://www.allahcoin.org/index.php/en/

Thoughts?

If that shit goes up on any exchange the community needs to boycott that exchange....

Doesn't seem bad, it is promoting a religion just as any other coin can be use to promote any other religion

It supports the Muslim Brotherhood, not Islam itself

If this shit goes on any exchange, you can bet that site is as good as dead. Islam is fine, but fuck that

Islam has many organizations, supporting one does not mean it is bad, I don't think there is a one and central organization for Islam.

Could you please post a link to the alt bay website if you don't mind.

i can just imagine the political posturing that would be done with this....

Do your research dude. Muslim Brotherhood is not a group you want to help support in any way, shape, or form, unless you like civil unrest and the slaughtering of innocents. If you do, then go mine this. Otherwise just shut the fuck up because you have no idea what you are even saying. There's nothing wrong with Islam, but when a group kills women for drinking beer or slaughters innocent men, women, and children hiding behind political agenda, then it's ok to say fuck them and fuck the people that support them

Fox news generation, dumb as stone but proud at it.

Now, give me an example of Muslim Brotherhood (though the website says muslim brotherhood which might be quite different) killing a woman for drinking a beer and I'll send you 1 BTC. If you don't and you won't because you're just haing zealot knowing fuck all what you're talking about, then suck my Muslim, Muslim Brotherhood supporting dick you piece of idiotic scum.

I like how the mainstream media successfully demonized Islam.

It's more "okay" in most people's minds when Christian extremists hurt people than Islamic extremists.


http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/07/20266-muslim-brotherhood-violently-kills-woman-for-drinking-beer/

BTC: 1Ea9zdfjSCZBJRXk7THBCAvM1jwrmkd48a

Haha, fuck oiff you MrConservative.com piece of moron.

It's not strange that you are brain dead when you are hanging around such scum.

Haha I'm not supporting anything; I'm just taking you up on your challenge.

1 BTC please.

BTW, I fully support this coin intention, I hope it will be a success though I don't think so, but the name is bit retarded, no need to put Allah swt name on that. If one wanted to make coin that would be related to islam, then IslamicCoin is quite good name, AllahCoin is stupid.

You did not state what kind of site it had to be.

You only said to find an example.

Well there it is.

Sorry you're butthurt that I took you up on your bet.

Does this currency guarantee me a place in Muslim Heaven, or absolve me of any sins? I really think they're missing out on some potential selling points.

I am extremely liberal not conservative. Do your own research though don't take my word or anyone else's as truth

If the jews made a coin, that would be a success. just sayin..

Quite ironic you are calling him stupid but can't distinguish between peace and piece. Pot, meet kettle

lol

lol the guy's just mad that I called him out on his bet.

Now he's pussying out on paying me.

btw, if you want to make Islam look better, I suggest you refrain from calling everyone a "fucking moron," "asshole," "redneck," etc.

It only makes you look that much more uncivilized.

LOL so I guess you are one of those nice moderate peaceful Muslims  ::)

From their website:

For each Allacoin unit produced 10% will be donated to the muslim brotherhood foundation to preach Islam, teach the illiterate, set up hospitals and promote sharia law worldwide.


Yeah, I think I will pass. Teaching the illiterate and setting up hospitals would be great but yeah.... no thanks.

Agreed. I would gladly support a cancer coin, but I cannot and will not support terrorist training or terrorist groups

I doubt this coin has any real connection to the Muslim Brotherhood. At the bottom of the Arabic version of their website, they seem to be asking for help to improve the Arabic translation in English.

rofl this is fucking hilarious.

good to know seleme is a muslim fanatic.

Perfect example of why this needs to be shut down. People need to be careful. There is a very fine line between just playing around or being a serious backing for a shitty group. People are dancing far too closely to that line with this one at the moment

This is the kind of negative, unwanted attention that could spark mainstream media to cover and twist around which could literally ruin the entire cryptocurrency scene

You may think I'm making a mountain out of molehills here, but think about it...they have done far worse for much less serious things than helping a borderline terrorist group raise money

1. = retarded comment - everyone would just see it as obvious propaganda, I don't know where you come from but the MSM gave up on that useless shit years ago, they have noticed their ratings dropping ever since.

2. The "West" including the MSM supports Cannibal Terrorists that are attacking Syria, The "Civilized West" directly supports these Terrorists, they recently decapitated two Catholic Priests, the UK the USA and all the sock puppet countries support this terrorism with direct Aid.

John McCain recently was pictured smiling and shaking hands with them and commented that "We need more arms for these guys so we can really lose this war properly"   {in his trademark tradition}

I couldn't care less either way about the Muslim Brotherhood , but presently "The West" supports direct and open terrorism, maybe we shouldn't do that? because its really really hurting our credibility. 

agree ? disagree ?

: D

any coin that like is stupid, and the islam the west and the media portrays is the extreme version of islam. There are 2 sides of islam the peaceful version and the extreme version,for some reason you guys being sheep only see the extreme version aka terrorism and killing
EDIT: and just to say im a muslim and proud, ramadhan mubarak to all muslim's out there! :D

harmful when? there are more oppressed muslims in the world due to ethnic cleansing than any other religion. Palestine, Syria, gaza, indonesia.

Yes i agree there are a few select types of people who make islam look harmful, e.g. terrorists and murderers, but they arent following islam, theyre following their own beliefs which have been twisted from real islam

I propsed Shekels last month. So first we had Nerdcoins (bit, p2p, dev), then came the Slimmed down coins (lite, feather) then the Better coins (hyper, mega, alpha, god, master) and then the Real coins (florins, bitbars,  bitgems) then the Odd coins (franoks, tulips) and the whole time a myriad of clone coins (vag, sex, meme, anon and on and on).

Now we have come to the next logical conclusion, Religion coins.  Why not? Nothing promotes bogus rampant grandstanding and false hope like religion. Everyone already has a predisposition to their choice of religion and the choices are ad infinum. As if people needed yet another filter to categorize themselves on the internet.  ::)

Personally I would rather see football coins if we are going to talk fervor (no, not NFL shite either). Unitedcoin FTW.

theres no join or die mentality, the REAL islam says everyone should be free to practice whatever religion the wish with no fear of being attacked, and theres no horrid treatment of women in islam, its people's twisted mentalities that says that,

no, ill correct islam, judaism and christianty are the same religion in the original form. HOweer with judaism and christianity the teachings have been changed to suit whoever so that its no longer judaism or christianity

...all the world's a stage, and the show still goes on to my utter disbelief.
Fight amongst yourselves, your overlords are laughing their asses off.

mere bhai, kuch mat kaho. yeh sab pagal hai, moderator ko report karo, aur yeh thread mei reply mat karo.

Yaar report to ker diya hai magar ye to had hi ho gai hai. Yeh dekh ker acha laga ke yahaan per kaafi logoon ki sooch Islam ko ley ker thik hi hai. Kuch hi log us key khilaaf baat ker rahay hain.

sach hai, lekin hum kya karei. Yeh sab ka dimaak karaab hai, islam to kahai key sab ko maaf karo. hum nai bola kai yeah sab jhoot hai aur media ka kaam hai, islam aisa nahi hai, lekin yeh sab ka dimaak aisa hai to hum musalman ko believe karte?

"...promote sharia law worldwide."

No, thanks. We have our more or less working set of laws.

this coin should not be allowed

English please  ;D

lol no thanks, were fine communicating ourselves, its on topic anyways. agreed miffman, whoever created the site is pathetic and is just plain taking the piss, what me and nawazish were saying basically

i thought i saw them all

no theyre not, the majority of muslim scholars say homosexual's should be kept in prison. But no not killed

i wouldnt say homosexuality is a good thing no,

Someone riding the wave and by copying Vlad2Vlads idea about the religious coins trying to make some money. I guess the dev isn't muslim.

Then the dev isn't moral.  Muslim Brotherhood support gang rape as a way for men to hold power over women.  Women aren't allowed into Tahrir Square in Cairo, Egypt.  Google it to see recent news on gang rape in Tahrir Square.  It's medieval over there.

I'm aware of the controversy around the Muslim Brotherhood, but that's something the egyptians themselves have to deal with. Now we are talking about this coin and I think this is something this community can and should deal with. I think this coin asking for BCX's attention...  ;)

... in other news, nerds fight over religious nonsense on yet another unrelated board and resolve zip.

you know as a muslim myself i find this thread appauling and will definitly be reporting the op.

And?  That justifies imprisonment?  Because your feelings say homosexuality isn't good?  Lets just think about this.

"I don't like gays.  Lets put them in jail."

"Yeah that sounds like a good idea.  I don't like gays either, so lets imprison them."

Which part of this doesn't look like abuse of the legal system?


Really oh my that's a shocker, I couldn't tell.

guys what, he asked for my opinion i gave it, im not imprisoning anyone, And actually im pointing out how this thread and the people here make this forum look. Any of you surprised why crypto's arent exactly going places?

Which legal system you talking about? There are lots of different legal system and in many of them this is not abusing the system but the system itself and most local people agree with it.

Good point.  If the point of a legal system is to uphold law, and there is a law stating "homosexuality is illegal", then it's well within the bounds of that specific legal system to prosecute gays.

But what a sad sight, either way.  A system which enables oppression of any kind.  I suppose saying "homosexuality is not a crime" is pointless to someone who believes it is.

Ummmm, just a year ago, didn't we support the egyptians in overthrowing their dictator who we supported up until then? And when they had free elections we called that a win for democracy. And they elected a representative of the Muslim Brotherhood. Of course now the military has deposed them, but basically, right up to the deposal, we supported and encouraged them every step of the way..

My question in regards to the coin is this: it appears no different at all than Litecoin? Did they just take the litecoin sources and change the name? Or are there any new twists on the cryptocoin concept that have been introduced as well? Just curious?

:popcorn:

AllahCoin has 10% mining tax, only Allah afficionados will mine it, the tax will prevent "ignition" of the coin.


You've probably not thought it through very logically, being religous and all, but it's an interesting matter...

From wiki article on sexual demograhic of US population:


It seems in the US and other countries more men are homesexual than women, the remaining straight men have less breeding competition, and so from a male perspective homesexuality might be considered a good thing. And also a thing that does not become gentically encoded as those that practice it do not breed...

But as hypothesized by Richard Dawkins; there is the "sneaky fucker" role played by many homosexual men, they realise that when they act gay they are allowed to hang around with women, and then they talk there way in to sex.

It's seems a natural occurence in other species too, the cuttlefish for example has many of the smaller males "cross dress" acting, coloring and even retexturing their skin to appear as females, then the big fighting males allow them into the mating frenzy where they become "sneaky fuckers", and so genes that encode such behaviour are passed on. After cuttlefish breed they die, they don't live long.

As for genetic encoding of female homosexuality, it's a long shot but I can imagine that two cavorting females might attract even the prime alpha males in a mating orgy of some species, twos better than one right! I haven't researched or read about this, just thinking aloud.

Someone should make HomoCoin for all the gay people.

i can agree with that yes, because being gay imo is not natural and no one can argue that it doesnt bring around diseases

Dumbest thing ive read in this forum in a long time

+1

How do you define "natural?"

Many, many animals (mammals, Araneids, etc.) display homosexual behavior.

Yes, most of them are attracted to the opposite sex, but homosexuality is there nonetheless.

And what "disease" does it bring around?

Will your kid one day say to you, after meeting a gay person, "daddy, I want to be gay when I grow up!"

Get real.

I really can't wait until the human race grows the fuck up. Unfortunately it's a process that will take a long time and we will probably not live to see it. It's too bad because I would really love to see a world without the influence of religion in it. It sickens me every time I hear someone justify their stupidity through religion.

you know what, i can believe whatever i want and you guys can believe whatever you want, i dont care. My opinions are as they are and definitely wont change.

Guys plz stop this religious talk here. This forum is not intended for these kinds of talks. You guys will start hating each other by this kind of talks. So plz leave it and end this matter here. All religions have there own set of rules and you don't need to point fingers on each other if you want to know more then why not consult a local scholar of that specific religion. Don't debate here.

Yeah, let's keep religions murdering gays/women/infidels without saying anything ::)

Please don't get me started you guys are also not so out of this. What is going on in Syria is it not terrorism. >:(

What the hell? Don't include me in some crazy organisation.

So terrorism in Syria for some months justifies centuries of atrocious murders for no valid reason?
Seems legit.

Also, it's not about wars, it's about rules imposed by a religion. Do you have troubles replying to a specific point?

o why are you including me to a group of people. And I have a question that if you don't like abiding by the rules then why not boycott your own countries rules. Islam has it's own strict rules and we like  abiding them.

Since homosexuality does occur heavily in nature, especially our next neighbours, the Bonobos, i think I can conclude that your knowledge of biology and zoology is kind of... limited?

Oh, and since some genetic predispostion was found that shows a tendency towards homosexuality in men, did you not know that their sisters with the same gene tended to be more fertile?


Well all of these things make no sense if you think some being invented us and earth. But looked at through the lens of evolution, all of these things make sense. Only gods stop making sense.



Nope. Actually, that is irrelevant. It is irrelevant whether or not someone is Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Shintoist or maybe an Animist. If he has any ideas that say that someone else is worth less because of their ideals, sexual self identity or because they refuse to believe in something they believe in, i do not have any need to talk to a scholar.

None. What. So. Ever. Instead, I have the right that he shuts the fuck up and preaches to other people. Freedom of religion means also freedom from religion. Religious thought needs to get out of lawmaking everywhere. At the same time, religious beliefs do not deserve any kind of respect or scrutiny apart from the fact that you are allowed to leave them. Hurting religious feelings by ridicule and reason is something that should be done daily, for every kind of religion that does not get it.

Repetition is what is needed, since repetition froms beliefs. So instead of leaving everyone, we should just start repeating reason. Daily. In non hompeopathic doses, everywhere.


Oh, and for diseases: You just demonstrated that you do not understand epidemiology very much. Which is crucial to understanding this. And oh, yes, if it does, it is actually a quite useful matter of evolutionary processes weeding out people with lacking resistancies. Evolution is everywhere, although modern science tends to slow it and create insane things using its mechanisms...



What is going on in Syria is a civil war. Humans have this idiotic tendency (Which stems from evolution, actually, it can be easily explained) to flock towards something bigger and flogging together under ridiculous beliefs whenever they face crisis and multiple accounts of death.

And for some reason, this belief gets people so organized and fanatic that it increases their chances of survival heavily. Because people that belief the same unreasonable stuff tend to work well together because "nobody else understands them."

And considering fanaticism, it is also quite efficient. Fanatics are more likely to carry out dangerous missions including certain. But this level of risk scenario also makes these people unfortunately win and fight wars. And in Syria, it was only a matter of time until the rebels are organized under the flag of religion.

We will see how that pans out.



So, you DO belong to a group of people. Fascinating. But actually, you will find that a lot of people if talked to in private, do not like to abide by them.

SO you are in favour of secularism. You are on the wrong thread MR.

Nope. Absolutely not.

What is this then??

I didn't, I said this: "Yeah, let's keep religions murdering gays/women/infidels without saying anything"
This doesn't include you in anyway
kthxbai

Because these rules:

• Are not dicted by some crazy religion
• Don't kill anybody who doesn't hurt someone (even if they kill someone actually)

Also I boycott stupid rules because I have a brain. Hint: killing someone because of what sex he loves is even beyond stupidity, it's primitive.
Also stop mixing country and religion ffs

I HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO LISTEN TO YOU BUT IN THE SAME BREATH I'M GOING TO PREACH PSEUDOSCIENCE, CULTURAL MARXISM AND RABID ATHEISM.   WAAA WAAA WAAAA.



Yawn....


People have gone from one extreme of ignorance to the other.  So cocky that they 'have it all figured out' when looking to the past, but can't see the same mistakes they are setting themselves up for in the future, nor the garden path they are being lead down in the name of 'progress'.  Hopeless.  Let them eat cake, I suppose.

Excellent debate skills there, mate.

ow OK, than it's totally fine of course, you wouldn't kill them. Just rob them from their freedom till... when? They are cured or something? xD
So locking up people that didn't harm anyone is OK because your imaginary friend says so. Glad the true Islam is such a loving religion.

Ahmed_bodi, welcome in 2013, we already have some new books, I think you have some catching up to do.

No Terrorism doesn't justify anything , Terrorism does not justify any of the Centuries of wars that the west has brought onto other nations , so in this respect you are correct , having said that , the West has brought also a lot of innovation to people and helped a lot of people , so somewhere here there is an equation that balances :

but , however think on this....

Syria and Lebanon are really very good attempts at what was pretty much secular societies, that for those that can not think too deeply mean that Religion was not the primary aspect of the governing body, at least not in an overt way or as it relates to strict law,

yet hilariously, and in a very backwards manner , we in the "West" sponsor Religious Terrorists against Secular Syria , to benefit our own really stupid ends {which are broadly directed against the Russian Federation}

how duplicitous is such a retarded policy?

We hurt our credibility and degrade the support that we had as innovative nations.

We help the Russian Federation's image because they are just standing back and sticking to international law and the West looks like Terrorist sponsoring aggressors ?

anyone want to help me out here?, how does  the "West" bounce back from obviously sponsoring Terrorism {i don't want to hear about all the other ways they did , because before this, not everyone everywhere knew about it}
 

Gosh you guys are brainwashed like hell by your governments against Muslims. Do you guys even now about your own religion. What you guys just know is to talk against Islam.

Not true.  Ill talk against every religion

This implies you are secular then.

I repeat:
It's not about wars, it's about rules imposed by a religion.

I don't give a single shit about islam. Stop using victimization to get people join your cause, that's ridiculous.
All the religions that promote murders for whatever reason must be destroyed. Period.

What I know about my own religion? You know I'm an Atheist right?
And brainwashed by my government? I live in a pretty pro Islam country. My tax money is even used to support it.

Why would that be an issue?

I don't really give a shit about Islam or any other religion , there are simple certain basic human rights that most of the nations/people agree on , if we all stick to these , then we are all fine.

Christians have weirdos
so do Jews and Muslims.

they are just generally very low IQ people with a broken childhood, that's not unusual, that's normal. problem being when those broken low IQ people start to get elected to write the laws, its happened in the West and the East its not an Islamic thing or a Jewish or a Christian or a Secular thing.

you quote the Nation and I'll quote the broken sick Low IQ person that once governed.

This is the misconception you guys are having. And it is just because of fake Talibans Who were trained to fight with Russia. And now US is using them to portray a negative image of Islam

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha {pausing for breath} ha ha ha ha ha ha.

{betting this is where the conversation ends. }

Agreed it is not about religion it is about a group of low IQ people.

It's totally natural, homosexuality happens in all kinds of species. But you know what's genuinely not natural - deodorant. Do you wear deodorant? How about plastics, you avoid using anything made of plastic?

Maybe you need to find a more plausible and less hypocritical excuse for your bigotry.

بھائی ان لوگوں کو نظر انداز

Talibans?
Are the Talibans at the head of UAE?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates:

no but its run by people with low iq

+1 see we can all agree on something .

let me give you further evidence -

Most "Jihadists" / Terrorists are just very Low IQ people with broken childhoods that have seen probably many people around them murdered ,  in the middle ages this was no different to Christians that burned Witches or even some modern Christians that have shot people that perform abortions {although that is probably a more complex issue }

so lets stick to just straight raging murders , these people , all studies have shown , are generally:

1. Low IQ
2. In a War or occupation environment
3. have Broken or damaged childhood , lost most or all family members , have no outlook on life.  

**4. NOT related to any specific religion.  

Tried a lot but couldn't resist.

I again agree to all the above points. I think at this place the debate should end.

true inshallah this gets finished soon

yes this is what it implies

+1 Atleast some people here have a brain and aren't brainwashed by sky and fox news

ha ha you didn't answer my first response : D

nope sorry wrong , Communism is a great example , early pure Communism .

Nazis {as fashionable as they were and still apparently are} were completely Secular "in a fashion" but {the Propaganda aside}  it was the low IQ guards , common criminals that perpetuated a lot of the crimes..

where else lets think ....

there are so many in history - help me out guys .... lets see , the USA dropped two Nuclear Weapons on at that time Defenseless Japan,{civilian areas}  many would say the people that chose to do this were of particularly low IQ.

although the pilot was fairly educated as he apparently killed himself. {not being able to live with the mass murder} -

hmmm who else........

** in fact the President was saying just the other day that - he didn't think that even Stalin would have dropped a Nuclear Weapon on say Berlin in 1945  , perhaps in 41 or early 42 maybe, but {of course its conjecture} but he was pretty confident that Stalin wouldn't have dropped it when the war was over.   yet Japan got double whammy, when the war was over.  {after continuous fire bombing of wooden houses in civilian areas }

you see so Terrorism is not defined by Religion ... don't believe me...

ask the UN , all the countries of the world {not the looser countries ...jokes}  tried to Define "Terrorism" and managed to figure out they were all "Terrorists" , so we have no UN definition. : (

dam you know,  it would have been really good to be able to pin that one down. 

croatia in 1993-94 trying to rid bosnia of everyone in the majority muslim areas to invade the land for their own use

i disagree - i bet if i study it enough , i can prove  the roots were not religious in nature -

the whole area was split up and created along really silly lines to start with, this was done by a central dictatorial power , this had nothing to do with religion ...

England with its essentially non religious scientific innovation, had such a lead on the world that England could draw lines on a map and make nations with little regard to the following consequences.  

my sadness derives the fact that , now look at what we have become , we in word and in action sponsor Terrorism , it is not the English way, it should not wash.

meh, i could agree with that. IMHO the basics of it all is. Todays Rich countries e.g. US, UK, Russia. etc always have and always will use their money to control the world. Just as in the past they invaded the majority of todays poor countries and left them worthless. Im pretty sure These Rich Countries arent called terrorist states tho, They use their loopholes to hide their crimes.

EDIT: yeah i know my above post wasnt to do with religion it was just to do with getting the land and making croatia better

What about all the arabian and muslim country who exploited and enslaved africa during 2000 Years ?. It's a bit easy to put everything on the back of US EU & Russia.

Wow
Are you the alt of Vlad2vlad??


To respond:
USSR:
And this is a kind of religion. (Religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to the supernatural, and to spirituality)

Oh wait, "pure Communism"?
Well, pure communism doesn't condone anything like murders.

Nazies:

erm your contradicting yourself, the NAZI party promoted killing because they were combatting jewish materialistic spirit. and they did this by killing them and working them to death treating them like animals

the difference between the crusades and islamic terrorists is that one group is active /right now/ using tactics from the /dark ages/.

i encourage everyone to watch these videos on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JskqoQLlATs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w

right because those videos arent biased right

Also I don't really see the world as "Rich" Countries and "Poor" counties , there are "innovative nations" and then there are "not so innovative nations" , sometimes the Low IQ people that get into government,  for what ever reason {yes sometimes sponsored by others} - well they write very bad policy, bad policy = bad law and , low incentive for innovation.

yes is was defining  "Pure communism" as against say Stalinist ideology , which was more dictatorial , closer to i guess, Germany under Nazis or say The USA presently.

I just meant the start of communism when they were pretty much murdering everyone .

no sorry there was no specific Nazi Religious laws or any specific Communist Laws that were a part of the legal structure of the state or very pushed by the government  , there were laws of Racial purity of the NAZI party which was law , such as the modern Israeli laws/implications. .

It seems that the debate is on it's last stages. But the problem is the coin is as it is.

nope the "coin" is no problem at all - they could make a coin with literally anything on it - if anyone gets excited about a picture or a word or a coin, and finds it offensive then , don't look , listen or talk to it.

unless said entity is inhibiting your personal "freedom or human rights" then in an = manner you or i should not inhibit some other entity(s) rights , and we may disagree and voice our opinion and that opinion should have equal standing in all other opinion and not be censored and be treated in reasonable circumstances.

Well if I talk about my opinion then I don't like the picture on it and the name. It is just my opinion and I am not imposing it on anyone else. And I think almost all Muslims will hate this kind of thing.

agreed bhai!

Honestly i didn't even look at it , i generally don't waste my time with such things.

i will now. I'm sure it will be very shocking for me .

{only because this discussion was useful}

I believe it was the wise words of the Stone Temple Pilots  {formally "Shirley Temple's Pussy"}

"One time a thing occurred to me , what's real and what's for sale." - Vasoline

cant download

Are you Muslim?

I guess the dev of this coin is very well entertained now :). Step 1 is well done.

Step 2.
Start a coin-crusade/jihad as one party trying to 51, the other party trying to put enough hash to balance the "crusaders". Therefore the two parties together will provide a good stable high network hash-rate. (Todo for the dev: borrow some hash and/or recruit more crusaders/jihadists for the loosing side to maintain status quo)

Step 3.
Provide an exchange where defenders of the faith (from both sides) can attack/defend the value of the coin. You can manipulate the exchange rate with your premined coins if necessary.

Step 4.
When there are enough people on your exchange, dump all your coins to them. -> Cash-out, sunshine, happiness :).

Talibans are legends. May Allah swt give them a victory soon.

I haven't visited this thread for few days but all those that commented what I showed with my comments - well, you can still suck my balls you twats, I don't give a flying one what you think about me and what image I leave for islam in your eyes - you're bloody irrelevant.

Islam lived with your hatred for 1500 years, it will live and prosper till Sun shines. You never liked us and you never will until we deny our faith, that's what Allah ALmighty said in His Book, that's what we see on daily basis. So why the hell would I give a flying one what you think about me and my religion? I don't need your love and I'd rather die than be loved by you as being loved by you means being muslim only by name and being your bitch. I'll never be your bitch, you piece of shits, I'd rather die. I enjoy being hated by you as that's great sign I'm doing things good.

Suck it suckers, that's what I think about any islam hater.

seleme i can agree you're right in a sense, its proven time and time again. But no taliban aren't legends. After Mohammed S.A.W and muslims ruled the majority of the world. islam was a peaceful religion you and i know that, The Quran itself says not to kill and murder so how can the taliban be right? Yes Things are taken to the extremes because islam has 2 sides, arguments to fit all types of people. But what is right? i think personally the taliban isn't right when killing and murdering people;

Yes, talibans are legends.

I don't buy Taliban image being thrown at me by west media. They are my brothers, making huge sacrifice to live free and to live as islamic as it is possible. We all make mistakes, they do too.

They never attacked anyone, they are defending themselves and have all rights to kill. I am Bosnian and I know few things about that.

Just as Allah swt ordered Muslims to be peaceful He ordered Muslims to fight till they are able to breath if they are attacked.

So, yes - Islam is religion of peace.

So no, if you attack us, we'll stop being religion of piece. We'll fight you as long as we can move our fingers.

i agree they are, but yes everyone makes mistakes. all are guilty parties imo

EDIT: definitly agreed there, Its not just quran tho its standard logic if youre getting attacked then obvs your going to fight back

"Legends" don't shoot little girls and burn down schools.

End of WWI was terrible against Germany and destroyed its honour
Thus they had all rights to do what they did during WWII instead of peacefully solving a situation that seemed shameful to them

sorry please remind me of the american solder shooting and killing innocent iraqi and afghani kids, in palestine and syria people forced away from their religion. You can say shit about our religion but cant admit bad things happening to muslims

Mine it or die fools.

The difference is - I'm not saying those people are legends, or wishing them 'victory' over the civilians they target.

And I'm certainly not trying to tell people how peaceful a group I belong to, while lionising the murderous psychopaths in my ranks and talking about how we should fight until our last breaths.

The Taliban you are referring to are fake ones.

Tolerance and acceptance will equal a better world for everyone. This is an important teaching in all major religions and is being somewhat forgotten in our world today.

If anything in this song offends you - You're Wrong. If you are not offended - You're Wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUZ5gGO0_Pw

I'm an apathetic or pragmatic agnostic https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism I try to embrace all religious teachings equally.

Life is a struggle for all. Why make things worse ? Peace.

...

P.S. Who is actually making this coin - the NSA ? Because certain iblocklist.com lists (and other lists) ping like crazy! i.e. it's being totally tracked.

Besides, I thought that some Muslims are not allowed to accept certain types of 'wealth' from non-Muslims ? Perhaps a Muslim here could explain how this works in practice in terms of crypto-currency ownership, with spent coins of unknown and perhaps of questionable origin ? Just like non-swap accounts being necessary in forex trading, for example. Thank you.

These (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Human_rights_abuses) guys were all fakes too, I guess?

NO there are real Talibans aswell.

basically a muslim needs to try to make sure that the money they get is not used for any illegal stuff. basically so that a person is 99% sure that they are safe from being in any mess to do with fraud etc. With crypto im not too sure but i reckon the only way where a person would would be against islam to do with crypto is when someones buying stolen coins and they know about it and still go ahead.

Interesting. Thank you.

Wouldn't some Muslims perhaps consider the name of this coin to be using Gods name in vain ?   ???

np, and yep i personally do, even nawazish does. thats what we were talking about

+1,
and I cannot support MB

Again, very interesting.

I'm from the UK, but I lived in Qatar for 3 years when I was younger. I'm perhaps more aware of certain things, you know.

Hence why education is an important human right for all...

nice! i live in the UK, indian family but ive been spending the ajority of my summers lately in morrocco with other family. so ive seen what lifes like in real muslim countries and i dont believe it to be as bad as everyone makes it out to be

It is said in many religious texts that the world only really needs one currency, this is perhaps the better option for all humanity. I doubt it will be any of the currencies on this forum, but we are certainly making progress I think... ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HerpGwbLSM8

One World. One People. Peace.  8)

hopefully. Peace :)

This is nothing short of genocidal ideology.

Yes, it's stupid name. If they wanted to make a coin that would be "islamic" then IslamCoin, MuslimCoin etc would be more appropriate..

AllahCoin is just not the the one they should do. Allah's swt name should be out of this kind of stuff.

Anyway, I'll finish my part in this thread with this...

I've just finished my fasting day. I've spent 18 hours without food and drink, I've read 45 pages of the Book of Truth just before taking my evening food.

Oh haters, if you only knew how happy i was doing this.. if you only knew what kind of happiness, freedom and pride my chest are hiding, you'd try to kill me to take that away from me, to have a piece of it... but you'll never feel that unless Allah swt send some mercy upon you. You'll always be slaves of materialism, that's your God even if you say you believe in Him, and materialism for me is just the weapon to be free from you, to be free from irons your souls are robbed in.. to live and die with this beautiful feeling in my body, alhamdolillah :)

alhamdlilah nice speech brother, ramadhan mubarak, ive still got an hour and a half to go, still need to pray asr

World peace maybe a wishful ideology, but I've already stated that Muslims and followers of the other major religions alike are actually required to be Tolerant and Accepting, both towards their respective faiths and beliefs as well as each other.

This is not an easy topic and people are entitled to their opinions. A peaceful co-existence is the right way for all humanity. That is all I really meant by the above sentiment. As in togetherness.

I forgot this. Ramadhan Mubarak to all the Muslims in this thread. :D I think this coin is just taking the test of our patience. The real agenda behind this coin what I think is to promote cryptos by using the name of Allah. This way the whole world will start knowing about cryptos.

Promoting crypto-currency for evil I cannot agree with. Promoting crypto-currency for good I can agree with.

Best wishes

There is no law of science nor any reason in all of physical existence that literally requires any man, no matter his religion, or government, no matter its nation, to be tolerant and accepting, or frankly anything, because a book, or a piece of paper, has said so.  We see this hypocrisy in this very thread; there is no such thing as tolerance and acceptance of homosexuality when it comes to followers of the Muslim faith.  Christians, whatever their book says, feel the same about homosexuality; Christians don't even want mosques to be built in their communities.  And of course we can say, "Well they're not true Muslims/Christians if they do that," but people still (and by that I mean, almost all religious people) call themselves as such, each and every day; they separate themselves from normal society by referring to themselves as the followers of God, a figure who lives and thrives in books and imagination alone.  If a book, or a piece of paper does not stop a religious man from being intolerant and unaccepting of another group; if a book, or a piece of paper, does not stop a religious man from killing another man; if a book, or a piece of paper, does not stop a religious man from stealing and lying, then we should not proclaim that it is so.  Because it isn't.  There is no requirement valid in the physical world that would stop a Christian soldier from killing another Christian soldier of an opposing nation, no matter what his book or piece of paper says.

If it is world peace you strive for, it will not be found, not now, and not ever, through religion, or the assimilation of all religion into one large religion, or by the co-existance of many individual religions, for there will always be those who follow and those who don't; there will always be the distinction between these men, and those men, and it's very easy to forget who's human when feelings are hurt and group X has to die because they insulted group Y.  There is but one method to achieving peace, and it is by admission that you are not different from any other man.  Religion is the admission that you are, in fact, different from that other religion, or that Atheist; perhaps your religion assumes men and women are never to be seen as equals, for that would disturb the supposed peace; perhaps your religion asks you to put your God before everything you do, separating you from your fellow man, for that is the way to achieve peace; but if there's anything we've learned from the past several thousand years, it's that by proclaiming "Well I'm of Nation/Religion X" is an invitation for Nation/Religion Y to divide you, a fellow human being, or for you to divide yourself, from the rest of humanity.

Nothing has created more war than religion and nationalism (arguably the same thing.)  World peace is not wishful thinking.  But the idea that you'll achieve it through self-segregation is indeed a pipe dream.  Truly, if you care, even a tiny little bit about world peace, and not just saying it to look good, or because people who follow your religion like to say it and so you do, too, then, in the very least, consider what I'm saying, for there is no religion which may enlighten, but only man who may enlighten himself.

believe as youd like to believe, and we shall believe as we like to believe. Seleme and nawazish understand what it means to be part of islam and thats one thing i wouldnt change for the world

+1 :)

Why are you guys taking it as a religious problem no individual is allowed to punish any one in Islam. Unless he is the law enforcer. What you are saying is just like if you broke a rule of a country and you don't want any punishment. Why not people stop breaking laws in Islamic countries. Go and live where the things you do are supported by the country.

I think I might of been misconstrued. I'm not seeking world peace through religion. I'm an Agnostic.

I've spoken with many Muslims who have stated that being tolerant and accepting of other peoples religions and faiths is their interpretation of parts of the Koran. It is not as such a requirement (loose choice of words by myself), but an interpretation of scripture, by some Muslims on how to be good Muslims. The same applies to Christians and the bible.

Yes. Religion and nationalism are responsible for many wars - perhaps our new social media style 'global village' will help us all learn lessons from our past during this continuing process of increasing globalization, which can be seen as problematic as the 'tribes' of the human race increasingly merge themselves together.

We should all look to enlighten and educate ourselves to be 'one world and one people', with extreme religious beliefs set to one side if not forgotten.

I personally do not endorse, mine or trade any crypto-currency of religious, existing nationalistic or purely of a political persuasion.

These are things that using Bitcoin and crypto in general will help to solve and to change. We are seeing the collapse of the global economy and even of nation states.

I look to a brighter future, but no utopian dream is for certain or even desirable. Surely the human race can eventually progress to something better than this capitalist mess and current dystopia ? A pessimist is never disappointed however.

almost correct, in my opinion  - They felt like they had no option, desperate and destroyed.

almost a "back to the wall" sort of situation ,or the situation that many of these confused young Terrorists feel,  this is why you see many similar policy's in Modern Israel .

The two nations history's are vastly different , but in the end , The government used fear to and for a purpose . {justified and/or unjustified} .

Hitler could have said that to Jews or Stalin to the guys in gulags or Turks to the Armenians or Saddam to the Kurds.

Wolf0

I have empathy for your side of the argument , but also take on another side of the argument -

I have no problem what so ever with any one that is gay , i certainly don't believe they should be put into jail etc, as per my previous statements about an "Equal Equation"

but, what/why is it that so many Homosexuals seem to have their cause hijacked for so many political purposes ?

I can only assume this is because Homosexuals feel that they have a cause to push, but when does that cause stop being for simple human rights, and start becoming something else? , also would you/we recognize if that was happening?

in many Religious derived nations , {see my previous comments} I can totally understand your points, but after that point where is the end point?  

I am not one of them then why are you complaining to all the Muslims. As in the previous posts Digitalindustry said that they people who do all this are low IQ people it has nothing to do with Islam.

yaar, just leave it. they wont understand. People like him are brainwashed and can only see the bad, not the good

Yup you are right. They can't understand even a single word we say. OK guys good bye from my side keep this rubbish talk going. This talk is going nowwhere.

sunni vs shiite

"If your religious fundamentalists are idiots, maybe think about your religion's fundamentals."

Forgot where I read that.


People that talk about religious moderates usually forget that moderates are part of the same religion. If you compare a Jehovah's witness with a european protestant, this is possibly an idiotic comparison, but both still believe in god.


What you are asking us to see is the good in a belief, that to us is like believing in Santa Claus. For me, it is not understandable, apart from growing up with a religion, why anyone would say that Al'lah is their god, others are not. Same for Jahwe, Christian god, others.

All of you are atheists. You do not believe in the mighty Thor. You do not believe in the fist of Zeus. Both were there long before Islam. Does anyone of you believe in Ba'al? OR Zagan, Dantalion, Perseus?

In the countries that now embrace Islam, long gone are the days that people prayed to Marduk, Son of Ea. Near them, Anu and Enlil have been the source of prayer, while the Marduk prayers were also praying to Tiamat to forebode her chaos.

Aruond the 9th to 10th century, around 300 years after the prophet Muhammad was born and also died, you will find that the Song Dinasty in China was having people pray to the mighty Shuangdi, king of all gods. In Japan, the goddess Amaterasu o mi kami and Ameno Uzume were prayed to and believed to influence.


Christians, Muslims... are in fact Atheists against all of these gods, demigods and saints.


Although some of them lived in our own countries.




That is why I ask you: What do I have to understand? You are as much as an atheist as us, you just cannot admit it, since there is one god left. Had you been born in Southern China, you would probably be a buddhist. Had you been born in Nepal, you would probably be a Buddhist. We go one god further than others. And we ask that world wide, in every place of the world, human rights and their rights to be together as they wilt, shall be granted and honored.

We do not have to understand anyone's feelings. We respect everyone's religion as so far as that you are allowed to have it, shall never be persecuted for it and if someone wants to persecute you for your religion, we will stand in the way and die for your right to believe whatever you want, if necessary.

But we are also allowed to ridicule these beliefs. We are allowed to believe that what you believe is ridiculous. And everyone in the world, as human being, has the right for these religious feelings not to encroach on their private life. Keep your guidelines and barriers to yourself and those who are interested in them. Keep your guns where they are.



And it requires reason. For if we have to go beyond our pettiness by outsourcing our ethics and morals towards a book, a religious leader and take it back, we need to be truly acceptant of everyone's beliefs. And that means that we have the right to criticize, the right to ridicule and also the right to offend. We do NOT have the right to decide for others what lifestyle is good for them.

Better start ImaginaryFriendsCoin .
I can't imagine in 2013 people still believe in that stuff...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mmskXXetcg
 ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_B0nI2Mg68

Nah, i have seen enough people that are intelligent that in fact have prejudice against gays. The problem comes always with the leadership. And if the leadership commands it this way, it will fall back to the lower echelons.

I stumbled across this coin a while ago and the site I saw this on,mentioned that 10% of all mine coins go to the muslim brotherhood,which is not a group I'd like/want to support (because of their questionable motives/numerous other issues associated with them besides,extremism concerns.)

Religion and this group are separate things so bear that in mind :)

The last post here was September 13, 2013 Dude. You might of just created a whole new shitstorm.

Homocoin launch yesterday...

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