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haha everyone is entitled to an opinion. I cant force people to trust nor believe me. Maybe a hero member will run a game like this and yall will trust him. I tried! I'm not mad that I didnt lose money? ha. Bash me all you want, I seriously was just trying to add something fun to the bitcoin community. And I'm not saying all christians are good. Hell some are beyond fake. I just said it was ironic that This whole game was created around the bible and I am in the small percentage of good christians but now Im getting bashed for creating a game that could give a winner 1 or more btc. I wont do it again, Im sorry lol! I understand everyones concern but they way yall attacked me, and claimed that the wallet I created wasnt a brainwallet and made it seem like I was a liar and thief wasnt cool. But like I said, maybe a hero member can adopt this and run them




HERE YOU GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. FOR ALL THE NON BELIEVERS. Passphrase was:
 genesis exodus leviticus numbers deuteronomy joshua judges ruth 1samuel 2samuel 1kings 2kings 1chronicles 2chronicles ezra nehemiah esther job psalms proverbs ecclesiastes songofsongs isaiah jeremiah lamentations ezekiel daniel hosea joel amos obadiah jonah micah nahum habakkuk zephaniah haggai zechariah malachi revelation
private key: 5KVtMnkceDjm7pHN7SZUxDDiBmrBqA1FyaFeZRww6Fmk3zjgLzj

bitcoin address: 1NatimoL7gCiKNS3uDbtTCKhs3umjzPLpR
go to http://brainwallet.org/ and you can type in that password and see that that address comes out thank you very much

Hint:
1. Old & New ( just old  Wink ) old  testament
2. 10 & 12 10 commandments 12 disciples
3. listen up
4. follow but dont creep     a jokey hint. You’re preached to follow the text
5. deep but not profound  the bible is deep but not profound in most areas leading us to have different opinions on topics/definition: penetrating deeply into subjects or ideas a profound mind
6. love  love is preached all throughout the bible
7. one one God
8. law some people call the bible the law
9.virgin   mary was a virgin
10. mary mary was the birth mother of jesus
11. WWJD what would jesus do is the meaning of that
12. wine
13. 1-2- skip a few all the way to 100  only the old testament and the last book of the new
14. leader
15. religion
16. kingdom
17. creator
18. big bang? Psh
19. Proverbs 1:7 “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”
20. bible

Those were the hints I intended to list for everyone in the exact order. I’m pretty sure someone could have easily solved that if they patiently waited or if people participated. But irdc, now ya’ll know. And its pretty ironic that yall accused me of being such and evil person yet the passphrase and everything was about the bible.. I’m actually a quite religious person btw. If you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME.





People are accusing me on this not being a brain wallet but a vanity wallet. I have no reason to lie. If you would like for me to prove it then comment below. I will take the 1btc out of the account and give yall the private key and passphrase to prove to yall that this in in fact a brain wallet. Is that what ya'll would like?
  the password is virtually impossible to solve without my last 12 hints. I doubt even the smartest man couldn't solve it. The whole point of this was to stockpile the wallet so the winner in the end got a hefty amount of btc, but nobody trust me nor believes this is a brainwallet. I will take the bitcoin out now and give yall the private key and passphrase once the coin is out.

EVERYONE IS TRYING TO ACCUSE ME OF BEING A THIEF AND A LIAR. You can accuse everyone out there as a thief. Ive been into bitcoin for over a year now. Sorry I didn't have the desire to post shit on here earlier and become a hero member? I was giving away 1 btc and yall accuse me of shit? just because there are bitcoin thieves out there doesn't mean you can accuse everyone of being one. But I know one damn thing, I will never ever run one of these again for the bitcoin community. I was giving away 100 dollars basically and everyone treats me like this? and wait until ya'll see what the passphrase was... you will see how ironic it is for yall to be accusing me as a thief. Just wait

I just sent one btc to a brainwallet I just created. The wallet address is 1NatimoL7gCiKNS3uDbtTCKhs3umjzPLpR
I decided to make it kind of a game too. Basically ya'll fund the hints. Every time the wallet address goes up 1btc I drop one hint. Trust me you will need the hints to solve the password. If the account doesn't go up any btc then just no hints but you can still have fun trying to crack the password! Just trying to promote bitcoin and add some life to bitcointalk! I think after 20 hints yall should be able to crack it but idk. NO COINS WILL GO TO ME. Its all game for yall to try to take and winner of course takes all. Like I said you don't have to send a single thing to the wallet whatsoever! If you're bored and want something to do then try to hack it ha! Since I sent one btc I will drop the first hint. btw hints will be sayings, one word, poems, pictures, etc. I have a whole list of 500 hints ready to be published (hopefully it wont take that long....) Have at it!
Hint:
1. Old & New ( just old  ;) )
2. 10 & 12
3. listen up
4. follow but dont creep
5. deep but not profound
6. love
7. one
8. law

(added a weeks worth of hints so I don't have to keep checking it. have fun!)

after a view comments on reddit and one here I decided to add one hint a day just in case ya'll think this is a scam or nobody chooses to fund.

Hey this sounds interesting but I don't think anyone is going to bite.  You are asking people to send bitcoins to an address that you control and you are very new on the forums.  What is to stop you from running with the funds?  

If you want to build up trust maybe run the first few giveaways that you give out the hints every so often without any requirement that people send coins.

Yeah I understand. I honestly could care less about stealing coins in all seriousness. I have a wallet with over 200 btc... The last thing on my mind is trying to take peoples coins. But like I said you don't have to fund it to attempt to solve it. I might consider releasing one hint a day along with this just in case people don't fund it. Thanks for the feedback and advice though

Nobody in their right mind will fund your wallet with nothing more than that assurance that you're not going to simply take the coins and run.

thats fine, you dont have to fund it. I will still add a hint a day. I have no intentions of scamming anyone. I did my part and put the 1btc in. if it stays like that then so be it. irdc to be honest

Interesting. So we pm you with our guesses?

Well, you can be certain nobody will choose to fund if the hints are for free :)

I more useful hint would be nice though. How long is the password ?

That address looks like it was generated with a vanity gen.   Is the "1Natimo" prefix intentional?

If so, I'm skeptical.  The private keys generated by brain wallet are sha256 hashes of a passphrase.  I don't see how you could come up with a passphrase that would generate a 256 bit private key which in turn would generate a public address beginning with "1Natimo".  The pass phrase would just look like random characters and have no meaning.  

It's a 32-byte hexadecimal string.

I swear to GOD the passphrase was created with brainwallet mate. Thats the funny part. As soon as I typed the last word in thats how the address looked and I debated keep the address for myself!  Its a brainwallet address

Hi
You said that it is 32 bytes hex, and that you typed in words... which is it? Do you mean a 32 character phrase like
"hi my name is not frederickly or"
?

Nice idea :)

A very hard puzzle with a get-it-yourself cash reward; I hope to see them in newspapers soon. 

Not to belabor the point but you said...


then you also said...



Are you saying you typed in words but are giving clues to the sha256 resulting hash (i.e. what brain wallet calls the 'secret exponent') and not the passphrase itself?

If so, then your clues would give hints to each nibble/byte or some other sequence of the sha256 hex string, not the passphrase. (Can you clarify?)

So, for example, clue #3 may refer to 'DEAF'.

The 32-byte hex thing was me just trying to be funny because that's what a private key is.
That was not the OP.

I think from the public address it's obvious this is not a brain wallet.

Ah, sorry.  There's a small chance this is real but I agree the public address is unlikely to have come from brain wallet. 

It would have to be one hell of a collision!

1NatimoL has 7 leading characters which do not contain a digit. Since there are 9 digits in base58 I make this a (9/58)^7 or 1 in 461634 chance of happening by chance. Pretty rare, but he didn't say how he came up with the pass phrase. Perhaps using a custom vanity generator driven by a brainwallet dictionary search? Its going to be pretty slow, not unlike building rainbow tables, actually it is exactly like building a rainbow table, come to think of it, so maybe this explains the source of the address?

Scratch that. Math was never my best subject. Its (49/58)^7 = 0.3 so not so unlikely after all. OOPS  ::)

Even a capital letter followed by 6 lowercase ones comes out to roughly one in 100 (I think I'm getting the hang of this now).

multiplied by whatever attack, divided by how much better his PC is than mine..

If you know n and hash(n) [ie rainbow table], is it possible to compute z given hash(z) [ie vanitygen output], or even n1+n2+n3 -> hash(n1+n2+n3) ~> ?

Not to nitpick but I believe the odds (after the address type) being a 1 are 1 in 256 (assuming ripemd160 distribution from sha256 hash is even) while the odds of 2-9 are 8/57 IF the first isn't isn't a 1.

so not so unlikely after all.

It's not just that there are no numbers, but that it is upper case followed by all lower case like a person's name.

Yeah, roughly (24/58)^7 = 0.002 for an uppercase followed by any six lowercase, so its getting on for unlikely, but not wildly impossible.

As you all probably know more about this than me; what about with every second letter a vowel?

Eg  1Nakamo
not 1Stshnm

How long is the password?

Um, no I don't (as you can see from my lack of a grasp of basic math!), but I agree that its getting more unlikely. Maybe I should resurrect my idea that he's just been playing with brainwallet rainbow tables, which sort of explains his generous offer of 1BTC to the first to guess his password ... eg a random 8 word passphrase from a 10000 word dictionary yields 10^32 combinations! (risking my math reputation yet again :-[ )

That's a twitter thing. Girl models use that expression, usually ones posting the kind of pictures attracting creeps. Then they are surprised when the creeps follow.


It's the title of an old word game: "Deep but not profound". The rules are hidden in title of the game: The first word must have a double vocal, the second one may not have one.

I think I might know! Where do I go to type in the password?

http://brainwallet.org/

If yall want I will take the bitcoin out and give yall the passphrase so yall can see that this is indeed a brainwallet. This was created on brainwallet.org. When I made the passphrase it contained mupltiple words. I have no reason to lie to tell you this is a brainwallet. If ya'll would like I will take the 1btc out, give yall the passphrase, and make a new brain wallet for yall to try to hack? I don't want people accusing me for something that is not true.

It's not that I don't believe you - it's just unlikely.

Can we have some sort of hint as to the passphrase format, or something? It's quite a big key space right now.

haha wow... im removing the coins now and I will give you the other 12 hints that most likely would have made the puzzle easily solvable and I will give the passphrase and private key. I was shocked too when I looked up and saw how the wallet address looked. I even debated keep the wallet for myself. I have no reason to bs. I just sent the private key to my mtgox wallet. after the coin arrives I will post the information for ya'll.

yes because im creating cool bitcoin games? ? ? ? definitely a scammer....

Just post the passphrase already?

I think 20/58*6/58*19/58*6/58*19/58*6/58 = .000040965

That's CapitalConsonant + lowercasevowel + lowercaseconsonant + lowercasevowel + lowercaseconsonant + lowercasevowel

Im getting it all together now. I'm explaining every hint, plus I have to wait for the 1btc to come into my account so everyone doesnt try to redeem the private key and stuff when I post it.

Ah, it was a Jesus Game!

haha yeah man... yall mistaked a devoted christian as a thief.... but i understand. there are a lot of bitcoin thieves out there but it all honesty im just trying to prove myself to the community. I have spent hours upon hours online reading do doing stuff involving bitcoin. It never dawned on me to post on here. I have a legit idea to make a website that does things like this and raffles items off and I think I'm going to execute it soon. Just adding something new to the bitcoin community

Being able to be "born again" is a con-mans wet dream, complete absolution from your past crimes.....
you have to ask yourself what sort of group would come up with such a concept.....

haha wow.... whatever mate. everyone has there right to an opinion. You sound foolish

Thanks for the fun, good times.

Consider this though:
If one of your hints was:  
"It is the books of the bible"
It is unlikely that anyone would have guessed it without brute forcing.
If you assume that the guesser would have also guessed that you don't capitalize and that you skipped some books, there are 66 books in the Bible, (+1 for skips) that would give 67 factorial possibilities = 3.6471111e+94 (3 with 94 0's after it)

To guess this It would either take divine intervention, or a patient computer.  The difficulty + asking for pay (even if small) might be why some folks think this was not so legitimate.  Even knowing it was bible books, there are more guesses needed then there are bitcoins

I only did the old test and one new...  and thats why you buy into hints. idealy I want at least 30 btc to be in there for the winner. I made it like this so you couldnt bruteforce. bruteforce tech isnt fair. this is for people that look at the hints and physically try passwords. hints later would have said books of the bible, and no caps, i wouldnt drop key hints first... but yes i agree this was hard. if i decide to make one later i will make it easier and design better hints.

Whats funny is that i was trying bible stuff in the passphrase last night. I was sure it was "Love your neighbor as yourself." But it wasnt obviously..

I gotta say though, being a devoted christian doesnt have anything to do with being or not being a thief.
 ::)

Im not saying i thought you were, i was actually content with your game and having fun trying to crack the code. I hope to see more in the future.

Damn! I saw you updated the OP!  I was on the right track too thinking old testament and books 10 and 12!

Though to be honest I don't think I would have gotten it even with the hints all the way out to 20.  I was too focused on specific books.

haha thanks for playing mates. I might do more later. I might even do some for a specific amount of btc and give free hints and stuff to get my trust up.

Yes... You definitely need to get your trust up... You can't rage at us for being defensive and not helping fund the game. Adding a Bible theme does nothing to enhance your credibility. I won't attest to their credibility, but in fact there are news headlines stating that church sites are more likely to give you viruses than porn sites (because people feel safe going to them, they are easier to compromise, older people are viewing them, ect). I like these types of games and appreciate generosity in the Bitcoin community, but you are taking the wrong approach man.

Also, I am Satoshi Nakamoto SO TRUST ME guise idc if you play or not but trust me omg u wil feel bad wen you see wat the pass word is omg so put coins in my wallet I have over 1 google of them

whatever you say man. whatever you say.

 "And its pretty ironic that yall accused me of being such and evil person yet the passphrase and everything was about the bible."

Are you for real? Since when does quoting the bible determine someone's value system?

No-one who believes in god has ever done anything bad.

Yep.  Just like an organization with "security" in its name never cracked any computer systems or spied on people.

"And its pretty ironic that yall accused me of being such and evil person yet the passphrase and everything was about the bible."

Got it. So you're not a scammer but a kids rapist? Excuse me but I don't agree with your logic..

Is this the OP?

http://gieph.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/shotgun_priest1.jpg

LOL!

Was just lurking the topic (poorly) but couldn't resist when I saw that someone else noticed the flaw there. Arguing that something is not evil because it's about the Bible is like arguing that something is vegetarian because it came straight from the slaughterhouse.

But... the cow WAS vegetarian!

Arguing that cows are still vegetarian is like arguing that unregulated market forces failed to discover low-cost animal-feed enriched with animal by-products.   ;D

Indeed!! ahahahaha

Wow....

You idiots really know how to turn people off to starting games, and how to run off people who are trying to give away BTC.

Bunch of clowns

The title of the OP "Lets have some fun!!..."  :)
Be kind, we are just playing and making jokes, no hard feelings. 
We all failed to guess and the game didn't reach lift off.
We'll do better next time.

His biggest problem was;

With no proof of him running etc.
He could have had an escrow party make the address from passphrase+nonce and used that, had a microsite to check guesses etc... but he wants $100 for .. ?

haha everyone is entitled to an opinion. I can force people to trust nor believe me. Maybe a hero member will run a game like this and yall will trust him. I tried! I'm not mad that I didnt lose money? ha. Bash me all you want, I seriously was just trying to add something fun to the bitcoin community. And I'm not saying all christians are good. Hell some are beyond fake. I just said it was ironic that This whole game was created around the bible and I am in the small percentage of good christians but now Im getting bashed for creating a game that could give a winner 1 or more btc. I wont do it again, Im sorry lol! I understand everyones concern but they way yall attacked me, and claimed that the wallet I created wasnt a brainwallet and made it seem like I was a liar and thief wasnt cool. But like I said, maybe a hero member can adopt this and run them

I personally thought it was a bit fun and interesting of the game's concept.
I just got into the world of bitcoin so I didn't know much about cracking passcodes and such.
But really, you should create more 'fun' like that but divide it into small amounts so that lots of
people can win to be able to confirm that you weren't some sort of a scammer.

This was a very nice attempt, even though I hate the fact it evolved around religion.
Hope I have enough free time to design a treasure hunt too, but don't expect it to be released before months.  ;)

Thats how it works.....
Just go read the "watch tower".... not a mention about god until the last few paragraphs when they have sucked you in.......
Lets not forget just how many wars these people have started and how many witches  they burned.

K.. Forget burning hippies, thats a good thing.....

This looked like fun but I was too late.