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Title: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: cosmoscoin on July 22, 2013, 04:11:16 AM
I start this thread not trying to doubt Mr BigVern or Cryptsy.com dev team, just want to know clearly what's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin.

Recently, cryptsy.com add many new coins like xpm, csc, elc, kgc and so on, coins like xpm are very good and innovative, it's reasonable that this xpm added to cryptsy.com, but other coins like csc, elc and kgc, I don't know why cryptsy.com choose these coins. There are many good coins in this bitcointalk.org, these coins have better design and implementation, more users and hash power, of course these coins are earlier than elc, csc and kgc, why cryptsy.com doesn't choose these coins?

I think there are some good coins that have been despised, these coins include cosmoscoin (CMC, which are developed by ourselves), diamond(DMD) and GalaxyCoin (GLX). So all crypt coin lovers, please put some interests on these coins, and Mr BigVern, please add CosmosCoin to cryptsy.com?

Dear Mr BigVern, if you has time and you read this thread accidently, please response.

BTW: CMC has the following features:
- Proof of work/proof of stake (Resistence to 51% attack)
- modified Scrypt algorithm
- Transacation Comment like FlorinCoin
- 0 transaction fee
- 60 seconds block time
- 3.5 coins per block
- Day generation: 5040 coins or 1440 blocks
- diff re-target every block
- Trade confirm: 3
- Mine confirm: 30
- fair start, no premine
- port: Connection: 19990 and RPC Port:19991

official website of CMC:
http://cosmoscoin.org
http://cosmoscoin.com

The ANN thread of CMC is : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=245938.0 , you can find more info about CMC and discuss some topics you interested in there.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: monocolor on July 22, 2013, 04:20:38 AM
Yes I totally support this.

CMC, DMD, GLX are PoW/PoS coins combining new innovative features and there are a lot interests in people for mining them. Also other coins such as EMD exist for 1+ month, many people have been mining them and have big interests in trading them. These, as compared to some new coins, many people barely seen once the post or never seen them, and was launched just 3-4 days ago and have not enough mined, I don't really see where the trades will come from, maybe all from insiders or friends?

Don't get me wrong, I like cryptsy, I opened my account there from the beginning and have been trading there almost daily. I hope these nice coins will be listed, as these are in the interests of many miners, me included. :)


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: thef on July 22, 2013, 04:22:24 AM
A large bribe.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: BitJohn on July 22, 2013, 04:28:21 AM
I think all of those coins are on the list, and you will see them all soon. Thanks for using cryptsy.com


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: cosmoscoin on July 22, 2013, 04:32:28 AM
I think all of those coins are on the list, and you will see them all soon. Thanks for using cryptsy.com

We all like cryptsy.com, it's the biggest exchange for altcoins, thanks to BigVern's great work.

I just don't understand the standard of cryptsy.com choosing new altcoins. Maybe exchange also need some bounty? If so, we can try our best to do some bounty.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: cosmoscoin on July 22, 2013, 04:34:23 AM
A large bribe.

Is this true?


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: BitJohn on July 22, 2013, 04:39:07 AM
Nope bounties don't really do much to affect a coins ranking on the list. We are more interested in volume and what we anticipate volume will be on a coin. Health of a coins hashrate. We love innovation gets a high ranking with that. Many factors most are looked at from a whats in demand perspective.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: cosmoscoin on July 22, 2013, 04:57:45 AM
Nope bounties don't really do much to affect a coins ranking on the list. We are more interested in volume and what we anticipate volume will be on a coin. Health of a coins hashrate. We love innovation gets a high ranking with that. Many factors most are looked at from a whats in demand perspective.

Thanks bro, I need to tell you something, CMC has many users, the hash power is between 60Mh/s to 150 MH/s and it alreay can be exchanged on btcltc.com (but this site has been attacked), so please give CMC a higher priority.
Great thanks to you.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: 258590478 on July 22, 2013, 05:02:14 AM
Nope bounties don't really do much to affect a coins ranking on the list. We are more interested in volume and what we anticipate volume will be on a coin. Health of a coins hashrate. We love innovation gets a high ranking with that. Many factors most are looked at from a whats in demand perspective.

Thanks bro, I need to tell you something, CMC has many users, the hash power is between 60Mh/s to 150 MH/s and it alreay can be exchanged on btcltc.com (but this site has been attacked), so please give CMC a higher priority.
Great thanks to you.
Support! Please consider priority on CMC!


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: xieluu on July 22, 2013, 06:15:48 AM
CosmosCoin is really a good coin, it will be very successful.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: horeaper on July 22, 2013, 06:41:23 AM
This is a fair question, even CasinoCoin get into Cryptsy, I don't know what innovation does that coin have. And they just launched, like 4 days ago? CMC is way older than that, and have very stable pools and supporters.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: Eli0t on July 22, 2013, 11:50:27 PM
This is a fair question, even CasinoCoin get into Cryptsy, I don't know what innovation does that coin have. And they just launched, like 4 days ago? CMC is way older than that, and have very stable pools and supporters.
CSC had a fair launch and solid mining support for 3-4 days 100+ MH

EDIT actually i have no idea, and i have no idea why i didnt mine it either. gotta love 0 tx fees


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: flyingcat on August 02, 2013, 06:43:29 AM
OK, I want to re-initiate this discussion, BigVern/BigJohn, can you please let us know what are the standard to get listed in cryptsy?

I see ORB get listed: it is a coin with 1 mil premine and 1.5 total coins, so 66% are premined, is this a joke? If this can be listed, which one can not?

I see GIL get listed: didn't we say that coins with premine will be less priority to be listed in cryptsy? GIL premined 300K. Is it because Hydro and his company chant "GIL" in the cryptsy chat every day?

Why not list GLX? 0 premined
Why not list HBN? 0 premined
Why not list STR? 0 premined
Why not list PHS? 0 premined
Why not list GDC? 0 premined

There are so many great coins out there, I just don't get it.

Don't get me wrong, I like cryptsy, and I traded almost daily there, but as many other people, I also want to see cryptsy be fair and we want to trade good coins there too. Thank you cryptsy.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: sam53 on August 02, 2013, 07:12:05 AM
OK, I want to re-initiate this discussion, BigVern/BigJohn, can you please let us know what are the standard to get listed in cryptsy?

I see ORB get listed: it is a coin with 1 mil premine and 1.5 total coins, so 66% are premined, is this a joke? If this can be listed, which one can not?

I see GIL get listed: didn't we say that coins with premine will be less priority to be listed in cryptsy? GIL premined 300K. Is it because Hydro and his company chant "GIL" in the cryptsy chat every day?

Why not list GLX? 0 premined
Why not list HBN? 0 premined
Why not list STR? 0 premined
Why not list PHS? 0 premined
Why not list GDC? 0 premined

There are so many great coins out there, I just don't get it.

Don't get me wrong, I like cryptsy, and I traded almost daily there, but as many other people, I also want to see cryptsy be fair and we want to trade good coins there too. Thank you cryptsy.

Yes I like all the 0 premined coins too, the only problem, is that their network hashrates are all pretty high, so I can't solo mine them, but that indicates good community acceptance  ;)


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: r3wt on August 02, 2013, 07:20:13 AM
OK, I want to re-initiate this discussion, BigVern/BigJohn, can you please let us know what are the standard to get listed in cryptsy?

I see ORB get listed: it is a coin with 1 mil premine and 1.5 total coins, so 66% are premined, is this a joke? If this can be listed, which one can not?

I see GIL get listed: didn't we say that coins with premine will be less priority to be listed in cryptsy? GIL premined 300K. Is it because Hydro and his company chant "GIL" in the cryptsy chat every day?

Why not list GLX? 0 premined
Why not list HBN? 0 premined
Why not list STR? 0 premined
Why not list PHS? 0 premined
Why not list GDC? 0 premined

There are so many great coins out there, I just don't get it.

Don't get me wrong, I like cryptsy, and I traded almost daily there, but as many other people, I also want to see cryptsy be fair and we want to trade good coins there too. Thank you cryptsy.

Yes I like all the 0 premined coins too, the only problem, is that their network hashrates are all pretty high, so I can't solo mine them, but that indicates good community acceptance  ;)

all stake clones with shitty names, boring block rewards and little innovation. all except for maybe STR. PhilosophersStone is actually a cool name though, i must admit. but thats just my personal opinion.

in all honesty, the reason your coin hasn't got on cryptsy yet is because it hasn't waited its turn in line. Above Average coins can jump and get on the exchange sooner (Primecoin), but middle of the pack coins tend to have to wait in  line for their chance. GIL and GLC came out long before any of these coins. As far as ORB, it is an utter piece of shit. i'm not sure what got it onto cryptsy but if i had to guess it would have to be

The Red Mist (the guy who paid for the coin to be made and owns all the premine) got the nod because he's a cryptsy regular, and his promise of supporting scientific research.) , or it could have been because shakezula made the coin. just my two cents.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: Lauda on August 02, 2013, 07:23:36 AM
OK, I want to re-initiate this discussion, BigVern/BigJohn, can you please let us know what are the standard to get listed in cryptsy?

I see ORB get listed: it is a coin with 1 mil premine and 1.5 total coins, so 66% are premined, is this a joke? If this can be listed, which one can not?

I see GIL get listed: didn't we say that coins with premine will be less priority to be listed in cryptsy? GIL premined 300K. Is it because Hydro and his company chant "GIL" in the cryptsy chat every day?

Why not list GLX? 0 premined
Why not list HBN? 0 premined
Why not list STR? 0 premined
Why not list PHS? 0 premined
Why not list GDC? 0 premined

There are so many great coins out there, I just don't get it.

Don't get me wrong, I like cryptsy, and I traded almost daily there, but as many other people, I also want to see cryptsy be fair and we want to trade good coins there too. Thank you cryptsy.

Yes I like all the 0 premined coins too, the only problem, is that their network hashrates are all pretty high, so I can't solo mine them, but that indicates good community acceptance  ;)

all stake clones with shitty names, boring block rewards and little innovation. all except for maybe STR. PhilosophersStone is actually a cool name though, i must admit
+1. We have enough copycat coins as it is.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: flyingcat on August 02, 2013, 07:27:44 AM
I think that GLX tries some new algorithm so the diff swings, with that I can solo mine with a max cgminer diff around 300K and still get blocks in a reasonable time.

PHS said it fixed some pos algo, so it delivers precious the pos interest it defines, still needs to be verified as it did not start to pay out the pos interest yet.

STR displays different images based on the block payouts (superblocks or not).

the other two I don't know.

None are big improvements, but they have some things new which are still interesting to see.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: Oldminer on August 02, 2013, 08:58:41 AM
OK, I want to re-initiate this discussion, BigVern/BigJohn, can you please let us know what are the standard to get listed in cryptsy?

I see ORB get listed: it is a coin with 1 mil premine and 1.5 total coins, so 66% are premined, is this a joke? If this can be listed, which one can not?

I see GIL get listed: didn't we say that coins with premine will be less priority to be listed in cryptsy? GIL premined 300K. Is it because Hydro and his company chant "GIL" in the cryptsy chat every day?

Why not list GLX? 0 premined
Why not list HBN? 0 premined
Why not list STR? 0 premined
Why not list PHS? 0 premined
Why not list GDC? 0 premined

There are so many great coins out there, I just don't get it.

Don't get me wrong, I like cryptsy, and I traded almost daily there, but as many other people, I also want to see cryptsy be fair and we want to trade good coins there too. Thank you cryptsy.

QFT

You gotta wonder about the logic behind Cryptsy's selections. GIL - IMO just pre-mined junk and its listed overnight. Theres numerous other coins too that shouldnt be on there, and plenty that should be. At the end of the day Cryptsy doesnt give 2 shits about the miners. Move over to Coins-E. Its just as good an exchange as cryptsy and given the volume it could be much better.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: r3wt on August 02, 2013, 09:13:37 AM
OK, I want to re-initiate this discussion, BigVern/BigJohn, can you please let us know what are the standard to get listed in cryptsy?

I see ORB get listed: it is a coin with 1 mil premine and 1.5 total coins, so 66% are premined, is this a joke? If this can be listed, which one can not?

I see GIL get listed: didn't we say that coins with premine will be less priority to be listed in cryptsy? GIL premined 300K. Is it because Hydro and his company chant "GIL" in the cryptsy chat every day?

Why not list GLX? 0 premined
Why not list HBN? 0 premined
Why not list STR? 0 premined
Why not list PHS? 0 premined
Why not list GDC? 0 premined

There are so many great coins out there, I just don't get it.

Don't get me wrong, I like cryptsy, and I traded almost daily there, but as many other people, I also want to see cryptsy be fair and we want to trade good coins there too. Thank you cryptsy.

QFT

You gotta wonder about the logic behind Cryptsy's selections. GIL - IMO just pre-mined junk and its listed overnight. Theres numerous other coins too that shouldnt be on there, and plenty that should be. At the end of the day Cryptsy doesnt give 2 shits about the miners. Move over to Coins-E. Its just as good an exchange as cryptsy and given the volume it could be much better.
ur1highmotherfuckerifyouthinkcoinseisbetterthancryptsy.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: frobley on August 02, 2013, 09:14:11 AM
I enjoy accumulating the (IMO) better ones without the attention of being listed,
Take your time!


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: Hydroponica on August 02, 2013, 10:40:56 AM
OK, I want to re-initiate this discussion, BigVern/BigJohn, can you please let us know what are the standard to get listed in cryptsy?

I see ORB get listed: it is a coin with 1 mil premine and 1.5 total coins, so 66% are premined, is this a joke? If this can be listed, which one can not?

I see GIL get listed: didn't we say that coins with premine will be less priority to be listed in cryptsy? GIL premined 300K. Is it because Hydro and his company chant "GIL" in the cryptsy chat every day?

Why not list GLX? 0 premined
Why not list HBN? 0 premined
Why not list STR? 0 premined
Why not list PHS? 0 premined
Why not list GDC? 0 premined

There are so many great coins out there, I just don't get it.

Don't get me wrong, I like cryptsy, and I traded almost daily there, but as many other people, I also want to see cryptsy be fair and we want to trade good coins there too. Thank you cryptsy.

QFT

You gotta wonder about the logic behind Cryptsy's selections. GIL - IMO just pre-mined junk and its listed overnight. Theres numerous other coins too that shouldnt be on there, and plenty that should be. At the end of the day Cryptsy doesnt give 2 shits about the miners. Move over to Coins-E. Its just as good an exchange as cryptsy and given the volume it could be much better.
ur1highmotherfuckerifyouthinkcoinseisbetterthancryptsy.

A lot of miners in Cryptsy chat chanted GIL, because a lot of miners, like GIL, and wanted GIL to be added to Cryptsy. Because BigVern cares about miners, and miners wanted GIL, BigVern decided to add GIL. I'm not going to talk about premining, because I'm tired of repeating myself.
I am an extremely active coin dev. I continue to support my coins, long after they hit an exchange.
I don't think you really pay that much attention to what's going on around here. GIL was released about 3 week's ago. Coins-e adds coins, that have nothing new, or offer nothing, in terms of being useful, ever, pretty much hours after release. I'm sure there's nothing shady going on there. I guess coins-e must have added coins that you had large stakes in, for you to say it's better than Cryptsy, considering Coins-e is the most crooked exchange around.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: Lauda on August 02, 2013, 12:55:12 PM
Needs a higher standard because of too many shitcoin these days!


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: sam53 on August 02, 2013, 03:26:48 PM
OK, I want to re-initiate this discussion, BigVern/BigJohn, can you please let us know what are the standard to get listed in cryptsy?

I see ORB get listed: it is a coin with 1 mil premine and 1.5 total coins, so 66% are premined, is this a joke? If this can be listed, which one can not?

I see GIL get listed: didn't we say that coins with premine will be less priority to be listed in cryptsy? GIL premined 300K. Is it because Hydro and his company chant "GIL" in the cryptsy chat every day?

Why not list GLX? 0 premined
Why not list HBN? 0 premined
Why not list STR? 0 premined
Why not list PHS? 0 premined
Why not list GDC? 0 premined

There are so many great coins out there, I just don't get it.

Don't get me wrong, I like cryptsy, and I traded almost daily there, but as many other people, I also want to see cryptsy be fair and we want to trade good coins there too. Thank you cryptsy.

QFT

You gotta wonder about the logic behind Cryptsy's selections. GIL - IMO just pre-mined junk and its listed overnight. Theres numerous other coins too that shouldnt be on there, and plenty that should be. At the end of the day Cryptsy doesnt give 2 shits about the miners. Move over to Coins-E. Its just as good an exchange as cryptsy and given the volume it could be much better.
ur1highmotherfuckerifyouthinkcoinseisbetterthancryptsy.

A lot of miners in Cryptsy chat chanted GIL, because a lot of miners, like GIL, and wanted GIL to be added to Cryptsy. Because BigVern cares about miners, and miners wanted GIL, BigVern decided to add GIL. I'm not going to talk about premining, because I'm tired of repeating myself.
I am an extremely active coin dev. I continue to support my coins, long after they hit an exchange.
I don't think you really pay that much attention to what's going on around here. GIL was released about 3 week's ago. Coins-e adds coins, that have nothing new, or offer nothing, in terms of being useful, ever, pretty much hours after release. I'm sure there's nothing shady going on there. I guess coins-e must have added coins that you had large stakes in, for you to say it's better than Cryptsy, considering Coins-e is the most crooked exchange around.

chat in cryptsy used to be a nice to exchange info before you guys changed it to an advertisement place, I felt annoyed to see these ads especially from you each time just chant this stupid Gil, so I use no more chat these days. What is even a more shame is that this stupid ad even works.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: Lauda on August 03, 2013, 12:38:22 AM
Cryptsy chat is now filled by promoters/haters/trollers and so on  :(


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: Alex P on August 03, 2013, 01:21:30 AM
The standard for any coin to be listed on Cryptsy or any other exchange if MONETary incentives!  Isn't is so obvious?  Any world you live in will be motivated by MULA.  Denaro.. Chen!, YEN, EURO..etc

Cryptsy chat is now filled by promoters/haters/trollers and so on  :(


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: wantrepreneur on August 03, 2013, 10:14:50 PM
Like any exchange, the bigger it gets the more effective trolling/advertising is.



Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: logicalogic on August 03, 2013, 10:36:44 PM
I too was wondering this and why Cloud Coin hasn't shown up on crypsty,  It doesn't have the orphan or stale problems like fast coin or digicoin, its got a good balance of features and a solid algorithm with POS/POW that should make it safe and last a long time.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: BitJohn on August 03, 2013, 11:06:12 PM
I too was wondering this and why Cloud Coin hasn't shown up on crypsty,  It doesn't have the orphan or stale problems like fast coin or digicoin, its got a good balance of features and a solid algorithm with POS/POW that should make it safe and last a long time.
Its on the list it just has a 1Mil premine so will weight it down under any fair release coin.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: coinerd on August 03, 2013, 11:13:50 PM
Its on the list it just has a 1Mil premine so will weight it down under any fair release coin.

Unless it's FOR SCIENCE!!

 ;)


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: BitJohn on August 03, 2013, 11:19:44 PM
or orphans premines for the orphans is also a good cause.

Folks should premine out of pocket in BTC and pay bounties to pools with that to be honest. From what I have seen most of the good pool providers don't require a bounty anyhow and cryptsy doesn't require a bounty for listing. So whats the point?


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: coinerd on August 03, 2013, 11:27:54 PM
or orphans premines for the orphans is also a good cause.

Folks should premine out of pocket in BTC and pay bounties to pools with that to be honest. From what I have seen most of the good pool providers don't require a bounty anyhow and cryptsy doesn't require a bounty for listing. So whats the point?

Yeah - there are a couple of coins where I think the owners would have been better off to avoid posting bounties.

I might do something for fun, or "for crypto" - But when someone offers the equivalent of $1 - 3 for a shitload of work I just leave it alone.




Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: monocolor on August 03, 2013, 11:34:19 PM
Agree, no premine is needed for any legit reasons except to give devs a quick pump and dump. Cryptsy should really put premined coins to the bottom of the list and any chants or advertisements in the cryptsy chat should move the corresponding coins downwards in the list and not upwards.


Title: Re: What's the standard for cryptsy.com choosing new altcoin?
Post by: BitJohn on August 04, 2013, 12:08:16 AM
Agree, no premine is needed for any legit reasons except to give devs a quick pump and dump. Cryptsy should really put premined coins to the bottom of the list and any chants or advertisements in the cryptsy chat should move the corresponding coins downwards in the list and not upwards.

For the most part with a few exception any fair release coin will always be at the top over any premine now. All coin decisions in the end are a business decision and can change at anytime.