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Title: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 22, 2013, 01:52:17 PM
Hey everyone.

We have been in talks with Bitfury for a while now and are proud to announce that we will be supplying BitFury asic units to the community.



A bit about us.
We are a community based project here in South Africa, that decided to come together to create www.bitcoinza.com

As a lot of the current ASIC manufacturers out there only ship to the UK, or USA or certain parts of the globe. We decided to bring in Asic units to South Africa, and supply Africa with Asic miners. We will be using Bitfury's chips as well as his PCB designs, which at the moment are the 8chip pcb units.

We are also busy setting up the African bitcoin foundation that will be run from South Africa through volunteers, and our goal is to get a system in place here in South Africa that is Bitcoin friendly, which will in turn be a BTC safehaven. This includes legal issues and talking to the banks etc.

Thanks to Bitfury we will be extremely competitive in the market when it comes to price and also timeframe as our units are expected to be finished by October and ready for shipment.
We will be using C-scape PCB design and control chips.

*UPDATE*

25GH/s   : 12BTC - Bitfury Minion
50GH/s   : 20BTC - Bitfury Gargoyle
100GH/s : 40BTC - Bitfury Goblin
200GH/s : 70BTC - Bitfury Ogre
400GH/s : 120BTC - Bitfury Wizard


We will not open ourselves up for Pre-Orders, as we want to finish our testing phase. Which should be done within the next 2 weeks. And hopefully we will have a few other units available other than the 24GH/s option.

We will be selling the units in 4 initial batches which will be in batches of 25TH/s each. So as not to flood the market, and to give the network time to stabilize.
Should the 4 batches be sold before the end of the year, we will not ship any more units until next year, (probably February march) once again, to give the network time to stabilize. This is a promise we make to everyone.

https://i.imgur.com/YVNqI6d.jpg

We will be shipping worldwide.

Please message me if you have any questions.
Post them here on the forum.
Send me a personal mail to dewet@bitcoinza.com
Or to our support mail support@bitcoinza.com

And visit our site, www.bitcoinza.com
Any suggestion from the community to the SA community let us know.
Check our our new Facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/BitCoinZA

**edit
Please note our goal is not to undercut other asic manufacturers. But our goal is to stay competitive with prices for the international market. Plus giving our local community the option of getting an asic without having to pay the extra Import tax. And on top of that, we will be helping the South African and African bitcoin Foundation with funding and assistance where we can, and also providing them with monthly support. That is why we say,
For the community, By the Community :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: jeroenn13 on July 22, 2013, 01:54:19 PM
Good luck.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: bitfury on July 22, 2013, 02:45:01 PM
reserved


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Beastlymac on July 22, 2013, 02:59:22 PM
Looks good


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 22, 2013, 03:17:43 PM
Thanks. :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: dawie on July 22, 2013, 04:20:15 PM
Hi leadnor

This is exciting news for Bitcoin in South Africa, Africa and Bitcoin mining in general.
In the spirit of getting Bitcoin’s footprint rolled out throughout the world, being part of the South African initiative is absolutely spectacular.
We are all looking forward to working together to make this a great success.

I am indeed bookmarking this post.

Bitcoin FTW


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 22, 2013, 08:43:31 PM
Thanks Dawie :) if you need any information let me know


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: icebear888 on July 23, 2013, 08:15:45 AM
This is GREAT news!!

I am definitely going to want to order some of these units!!


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Rora on July 23, 2013, 11:06:17 AM
Absolutely great news!


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 23, 2013, 12:04:51 PM
Thanks for all the support guys. To give South Africans the opportunity to get local asic miners. As well as being one of the lead asic unit suppliers worldwide(in terms of cost/ghs/timeframe) is an honor.

We have also dedicated roughly 20+ percent that will go to the company and the South African,  and African bitcoin foundation. This is to help them with any legal fees, etc that they might come across.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: dogie on July 23, 2013, 12:25:59 PM
As well as being one of the lead asic unit suppliers worldwide(in terms of cost/ghs/timeframe) is an honor.

You have to earn that title, you don't gift it to yourself.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: cypherdoc on July 23, 2013, 12:39:55 PM
Thanks for all the support guys. To give South Africans the opportunity to get local asic miners. As well as being one of the lead asic unit suppliers worldwide(in terms of cost/ghs/timeframe) is an honor.

We have also dedicated roughly 20+ percent that will go to the company and the South African,  and African bitcoin foundation. This is to help them with any legal fees, etc that they might come across.

By my calculations, aren't you twice the $cost per Gh as Megabigpower.com?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 23, 2013, 12:54:57 PM
I do apologize. The previous post was supposed to say
"that our goal is to become... " hehe mistyped.  :)

As well as being becoming one of the lead asic unit suppliers worldwide(in terms of cost/ghs/timeframe) iswould an honor.

There :D thanks for pointing that out.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 23, 2013, 01:09:41 PM
Thanks for all the support guys. To give South Africans the opportunity to get local asic miners. As well as being one of the lead asic unit suppliers worldwide(in terms of cost/ghs/timeframe) is an honor.

We have also dedicated roughly 20+ percent that will go to the company and the South African,  and African bitcoin foundation. This is to help them with any legal fees, etc that they might come across.

By my calculations, aren't you twice the $cost per Gh as Megabigpower.com?

Please explain your calculations?

Megabigpower is as follows
$1300 (Or 13BTC working off a $100/btc mark) for 25 GH/s "starter kit"
Our price is
10-12BTC for a 24GH/s unit? So we are cheaper.

How is that twice the cost per GH/s? Plus with megabigpower you still have to assemble etc.

The 400GH/s "Starter kit" is $8000  * Please note that this is a Full kit, but as far as I know you would still need to assemble the chips and the unit. I am unsure though of this one. **edit** if I am not mistaken this is also ex vat. We are trying to get these prices vat inclusive. we might need to show the ex vat prices if we are going to ship overseas. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, so that we can make this clearer on our site.**We are 110btc "estimation" (we are waiting for our final quotations)

Our hope is to get the 400GH/s units price down by quite a lot. But that will be confirmed in around 2 weeks.
That means we are just a bit more expensive on our estimations on the 400GH/s unit.
So please explain how when we are cheaper on the 24-25 unit. plus we dont give the starter kit. We give a unit. and on the 400 units(estimations from our side please remember. full prices will be up in 2 weeks) we are just a bit above them. but once again we supply full asic miners.

I appreciate your comment and we are working towards getting our 400GH/s units price down. In negotiations with the PCB manufacturers and assemblers to get the price down.  

:) let me know if you have any further queries, or suggestions



Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: jspielberg on July 23, 2013, 01:14:04 PM
It isn't clear from your post that you are including the m-board and raspberry pi with all your models.

Do you have any plans to sell just the m-board (i.e. no asics).
If so, how much would you be charging?
Also, since those won't require bitfury asics, would they be available sooner than the H-boards (which do required Asics).


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 23, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
It isn't clear from your post that you are including the m-board and raspberry pi with all your models.

Do you have any plans to sell just the m-board (i.e. no asics).
If so, how much would you be charging?
Also, since those won't require bitfury asics, would they be available sooner than the H-boards (which do required Asics).

Hi jspeilberg,

thanks for the comment. This is why we brought out this thread before our final pricing and final models are out. We want feedback from the community regarding what they would like to have available.

Our initial thoughts where to have full "units" being sold and not just the PCB's.
But if the community would like that we could think about adding that option as well.
Where we would just have the m-boards being sold.

I will also see that we make a change regarding the wording to make it more clear as to what we are offering. As the other companies show a certain price "excluding vat" and our prices are vat inclusive which pushes the competitors prices quite a bit above ours. I will have a look at specifying the pricing in a more clear fashion. Thanks. (*this will come in when we make our full pricing available*)

Let me know if I did not answer something clearly
thanks :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: MadHasher on July 23, 2013, 01:32:58 PM
Give the network time to stabilize? Is everybody insane? Do give ASIC Miner and company time to keep gobbling up hashrate and then panic when a large entity has amassed a big enough of the network's power.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 23, 2013, 01:48:19 PM
Give the network time to stabilize? Is everybody insane? Do give ASIC Miner and company time to keep gobbling up hashrate and then panic when a large entity has amassed a big enough of the network's power.

Hi MadHasher, I understand your frustration and worries regarding this. I just think that it would be beneficial to the community if asic dont just keep being pumped out. But gets released steadily , while giving time to adjust. I know this might be a pipedream and we will of course adjust our policies when the time comes and ask the community to give us feedback.

But it is good to "hope" that this will happen, and that everyone will join in the venture isnt it? hehe


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: BBQKorv on July 23, 2013, 03:55:24 PM
Good luck getting all the greedy chinese to agree on any network stabilization efforts, as soon as Avalon gen2 is ready it will be pumped out like crazy. The idea is to sell ASICs as much as possible before people understand that buying one isn't profitable anymore. All sales are final is a great fooling phrase in this matter (guess who invented that...).


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 23, 2013, 05:14:55 PM
Good luck getting all the greedy chinese to agree on any network stabilization efforts, as soon as Avalon gen2 is ready it will be pumped out like crazy. The idea is to sell ASICs as much as possible before people understand that buying one isn't profitable anymore. All sales are final is a great fooling phrase in this matter (guess who invented that...).


Haha very true. But at least we are going to give it a try. :)

It would be beneficial to the btc community if that could happen. So let's give it a shot :D


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Sitarow on July 23, 2013, 05:30:33 PM

Please note our goal is not to undercut other asic manufacturers. But our goal is to stay competitive with prices for the international market. Plus giving our local community the option of getting an asic without having to pay the extra Import tax. And on top of that, we will be helping the South African and African bitcoin Foundation with funding and assistance where we can, and also providing them with monthly support. That is why we say, For the community, By the Community :)

Great effort and nice to see local support for this ASIC product.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: solitude on July 23, 2013, 06:59:27 PM

We will not open ourselves up for Pre-Orders, as we want to finish our testing phase. Which should be done within the next 2 weeks. And hopefully we will have a few other units available other than the 24GH/s option.

2 weeks.  Where have I heard that before?

Do you accept paypal or just bitcoin?

nevermind

Quote
All orders will be placed with BTC's to keep BTC liquid. :)

Good luck to anyone taking this risk.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: cypherdoc on July 23, 2013, 08:12:31 PM
Thanks for all the support guys. To give South Africans the opportunity to get local asic miners. As well as being one of the lead asic unit suppliers worldwide(in terms of cost/ghs/timeframe) is an honor.

We have also dedicated roughly 20+ percent that will go to the company and the South African,  and African bitcoin foundation. This is to help them with any legal fees, etc that they might come across.

By my calculations, aren't you twice the $cost per Gh as Megabigpower.com?

Please explain your calculations?

Megabigpower is as follows
$1300 (Or 13BTC working off a $100/btc mark) for 25 GH/s "starter kit"
Our price is
10-12BTC for a 24GH/s unit? So we are cheaper.

How is that twice the cost per GH/s? Plus with megabigpower you still have to assemble etc.

The 400GH/s "Starter kit" is $8000  * Please note that this is a Full kit, but as far as I know you would still need to assemble the chips and the unit. I am unsure though of this one. **edit** if I am not mistaken this is also ex vat. We are trying to get these prices vat inclusive. we might need to show the ex vat prices if we are going to ship overseas. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, so that we can make this clearer on our site.**We are 110btc "estimation" (we are waiting for our final quotations)

Our hope is to get the 400GH/s units price down by quite a lot. But that will be confirmed in around 2 weeks.
That means we are just a bit more expensive on our estimations on the 400GH/s unit.
So please explain how when we are cheaper on the 24-25 unit. plus we dont give the starter kit. We give a unit. and on the 400 units(estimations from our side please remember. full prices will be up in 2 weeks) we are just a bit above them. but once again we supply full asic miners.

I appreciate your comment and we are working towards getting our 400GH/s units price down. In negotiations with the PCB manufacturers and assemblers to get the price down.  

:) let me know if you have any further queries, or suggestions



you say you are $1000 per 24GH.  Megabig is $8000 per 400GH.

thus, for the same $8000 from you we get only 200GH.

they are a full kit btw, one the 400GH to be delivered in October.

correct me if i'm wrong.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 23, 2013, 09:23:25 PM
Thanks for all the support guys. To give South Africans the opportunity to get local asic miners. As well as being one of the lead asic unit suppliers worldwide(in terms of cost/ghs/timeframe) is an honor.

We have also dedicated roughly 20+ percent that will go to the company and the South African,  and African bitcoin foundation. This is to help them with any legal fees, etc that they might come across.

By my calculations, aren't you twice the $cost per Gh as Megabigpower.com?

Please explain your calculations?

Megabigpower is as follows
$1300 (Or 13BTC working off a $100/btc mark) for 25 GH/s "starter kit"
Our price is
10-12BTC for a 24GH/s unit? So we are cheaper.

How is that twice the cost per GH/s? Plus with megabigpower you still have to assemble etc.

The 400GH/s "Starter kit" is $8000  * Please note that this is a Full kit, but as far as I know you would still need to assemble the chips and the unit. I am unsure though of this one. **edit** if I am not mistaken this is also ex vat. We are trying to get these prices vat inclusive. we might need to show the ex vat prices if we are going to ship overseas. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, so that we can make this clearer on our site.**We are 110btc "estimation" (we are waiting for our final quotations)

Our hope is to get the 400GH/s units price down by quite a lot. But that will be confirmed in around 2 weeks.
That means we are just a bit more expensive on our estimations on the 400GH/s unit.
So please explain how when we are cheaper on the 24-25 unit. plus we dont give the starter kit. We give a unit. and on the 400 units(estimations from our side please remember. full prices will be up in 2 weeks) we are just a bit above them. but once again we supply full asic miners.

I appreciate your comment and we are working towards getting our 400GH/s units price down. In negotiations with the PCB manufacturers and assemblers to get the price down.  

:) let me know if you have any further queries, or suggestions



you say you are $1000 per 24GH.  Megabig is $8000 per 400GH.

thus, for the same $8000 from you we get only 200GH.

they are a full kit btw, one the 400GH to be delivered in October.

correct me if i'm wrong.

Hi,  If you look at it that way yes. But megabig also offers 25gh/s options. remember the larger the buy the cheaper it becomes. :) look at the 25 gh/s option to our 24 gh/s option. remember hopefully the prices I put up is vat inclusive. megahash is not. so we are around $900 more expensive on the 400GH/s option. but cheaper on the smaller unit. plus ours is assembled.

**I would just like to add. That these are our estimations. we just want to finish our testing and then our full pricing will be up. This thread is to see what the community says and wants. SO that we can build what the community wants and as you can see everything we are doing is community based. from suggestions. to supporting the local bitcoin foundations, to supporting the BTC liquidity :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: dawie on July 23, 2013, 09:30:57 PM
Loving the open community based approach here.  Not a 'you' vs 'me' but an 'us'.
Building a business on the open BTC spirit.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 23, 2013, 09:31:30 PM
Thanks Sitarow  ^_^

And guys please remember, we are not trying to undercut any of the Bitfury Competitors, but our goal is to be one of the best options to chose from. especially for people that cant get the units on other places, for our local community and also let the community have a say in what they want. :) that is our goal and we will strive to live up to that :)

@ Dawie, yeah thanks. That is the plan.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: MadHasher on July 23, 2013, 09:57:28 PM
Give the network time to stabilize? Is everybody insane? Do give ASIC Miner and company time to keep gobbling up hashrate and then panic when a large entity has amassed a big enough of the network's power.

Hi MadHasher, I understand your frustration and worries regarding this. I just think that it would be beneficial to the community if asic dont just keep being pumped out. But gets released steadily , while giving time to adjust. I know this might be a pipedream and we will of course adjust our policies when the time comes and ask the community to give us feedback.

But it is good to "hope" that this will happen, and that everyone will join in the venture isnt it? hehe

Sorry but that is an idiotic notion. ASICs are way too expensive ATM but it's what the market is princing them at, for the most part. Sell what you can build and let the price stabilize, meanwhile you sell more hardware and only the uninformed, who stop by Block Erupter USB sales, will complain when you manage to drop the price from mass production. Bitcoin wins from hardware getting distributed everywhere, as it was in the beginning.

These new "support the network" arguments seem more from lack of production capacity than anything else...


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 23, 2013, 10:50:02 PM
Give the network time to stabilize? Is everybody insane? Do give ASIC Miner and company time to keep gobbling up hashrate and then panic when a large entity has amassed a big enough of the network's power.

Hi MadHasher, I understand your frustration and worries regarding this. I just think that it would be beneficial to the community if asic dont just keep being pumped out. But gets released steadily , while giving time to adjust. I know this might be a pipedream and we will of course adjust our policies when the time comes and ask the community to give us feedback.

But it is good to "hope" that this will happen, and that everyone will join in the venture isnt it? hehe

Sorry but that is an idiotic notion. ASICs are way too expensive ATM but it's what the market is princing them at, for the most part. Sell what you can build and let the price stabilize, meanwhile you sell more hardware and only the uninformed, who stop by Block Erupter USB sales, will complain when you manage to drop the price from mass production. Bitcoin wins from hardware getting distributed everywhere, as it was in the beginning.

These new "support the network" arguments seem more from lack of production capacity than anything else...

Hi Madhasher,

Ok you have a point there. Pure volume will eventually bring down the price in asic manufacturing true. I still think. even if the price drops. which it will by quite a bit. I still think it might be wise to give everyone some breathing space. not just give the network time to stabilize, but more importantly to give everyone mining time to see what is happening.Regarding your production capacity remark. If you would like I can order 100's upon 100's of terahash, who knows I might just be able to sell them all by the end of the year. But how is that helping everyone? Instead of having a gradual increase. we just dump everything. I might be wrong or might be thinking about this in an incorrect manner which I do apologize for

But once again. I go to my main point. this thread is designed to gauge the communities feelings towards asics. what units they want and suggestions and feelings towards what "WE" think is the best approach.
Remember what we think is the best approach, might not be the best by any means. but that is where the community jumps in and says. No. rather this way. or that way. :) and I have made a note of what you brought up here :P

Keep the comments and your suggestions and queries coming. :) I like seeing other peoples point of view and then seeing what we can do different :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 24, 2013, 09:04:35 AM
Thanks for all the mail responses so far. :) Got some good feedback from everyone. Still busy going through all the mails. So i will get back to you all hopefully by the end of the day.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Bitcoin_Bing on July 24, 2013, 10:42:54 AM
I love this.

ASICs in South Africa with no tax imports or waiting for shipment.

I will also invest in them as soon as I can.

What would the estimated power consumption on these units be?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 24, 2013, 03:17:34 PM
I love this.

ASICs in South Africa with no tax imports or waiting for shipment.

I will also invest in them as soon as I can.

What would the estimated power consumption on these units be?

Estimations are roughly 1W/GHs :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: z3r0 on July 24, 2013, 07:11:17 PM
As a local bitcoin kop I am happy to see this thread  ;D

I got 20 BTC for you my brother, will keep an eye on this.. I assume we will be able to pick up the goods in person?



Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 24, 2013, 08:06:06 PM
As a local bitcoin kop I am happy to see this thread  ;D

I got 20 BTC for you my brother, will keep an eye on this.. I assume we will be able to pick up the goods in person?



Hi Z3r0,

Yes defn you would be able to come pick it up personally. We will put a comments section on the order page when our orders go live, where you can specify that if you want. :)

If you need any further queries. let me know. :)




Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 25, 2013, 08:24:24 AM
There has been a couple of mails coming in asking that we should rather show our prices ex vat, instead of vat incl.

We will take that into consideration as the people have made some valid points. So when we release the official prices it will be done EX Vat :)

Keep the suggestions and comments coming in guys. We appreciate it as we want to design and build what "you" want.

Regards


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: dawie on July 25, 2013, 09:56:22 PM
Maybe a Frequently asked Questions page on the OP &/ web site to track progress of suggestions?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Synthetic_Darkness on July 26, 2013, 05:39:38 AM
Also being a local. I'd rather buy locally than send BTC to some other country (figuratively speaking). At least here I know where you live :D kidding


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 26, 2013, 08:10:09 AM
Ok I will create a FAQ on the website this weekend with most of the common questions that I have received so far :)

Hahahaha @ Synthetic_Darkness yeah. We are also planning a BTC mini conference/Gettogether some time soon. So then you guys that are local can meet us personally :)



Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Bitcoin_Bing on July 26, 2013, 08:34:57 AM
Any idea what you guys are going to name each unit?

I have an idea of:

24GH/s = Bitfury Minion
50GH/s = Bitfury Gargoyle
100GH/s = Bitfury Ogre
200GH/s = Bitfury Goblin
400GH/s = Bitfury Wizard


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Bitcoin_Bing on July 26, 2013, 09:13:08 AM
Ok I will create a FAQ on the website this weekend with most of the common questions that I have received so far :)

Hahahaha @ Synthetic_Darkness yeah. We are also planning a BTC mini conference/Gettogether some time soon. So then you guys that are local can meet us personally :)



Great idea! A conference would do a lot of us some good as I am sure there are a lot who us who still get the question "Bit-what?!" as soon as it's mentioned to other people.

Would also like to meet you guys in person.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 26, 2013, 11:28:25 AM
Any idea what you guys are going to name each unit?

I have an idea of:

24GH/s = Bitfury Minion
50GH/s = Bitfury Gargoyle
100GH/s = Bitfury Ogre
200GH/s = Bitfury Goblin
400GH/s = Bitfury Wizard

Hahahahaha I like!!!
:P


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: ninjaboon on July 26, 2013, 04:45:04 PM
Good to see some more competition in the hardware side.
Hope your online carts come online soon:
http://www.bitcoinza.com/products_5.html


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 26, 2013, 10:01:09 PM
Good to see some more competition in the hardware side.
Hope your online carts come online soon:
http://www.bitcoinza.com/products_5.html

Ninja thanks for the support. :)

Yeah our online carts will become available soon :)

Just finalizing our pricing structure etc. :) everything should be basically as advertised. (so far) Just waiting on our final tests and PCB negotiations to come through :D

 8) 8) 8) ;D


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: zamazama on July 27, 2013, 12:55:51 PM
Another South African here and fairly excited about this.

You say you will ship in 4 batches, but there's no dates. Price is just as important as delivery date when making a decision. Hope you can have the dates soon as I need to make a call on a this and a couple of other options.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 27, 2013, 02:50:24 PM
Another South African here and fairly excited about this.

You say you will ship in 4 batches, but there's no dates. Price is just as important as delivery date when making a decision. Hope you can have the dates soon as I need to make a call on a this and a couple of other options.

Hi Zama,

Our estimated dates are Oct/Nov, the batches will be shipped as per the demand.
IE We will be ready for shipment in late October/Nov then as soon as each batch finishes. it gets shipped.

There will be more clarification on that when we get our cart online and when we officially start. (2 weeks)

If you have any further queries or need clarification let me know :)

Regards


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: zamazama on July 28, 2013, 01:49:39 PM
Another South African here and fairly excited about this.

You say you will ship in 4 batches, but there's no dates. Price is just as important as delivery date when making a decision. Hope you can have the dates soon as I need to make a call on a this and a couple of other options.

Hi Zama,

Our estimated dates are Oct/Nov, the batches will be shipped as per the demand.
IE We will be ready for shipment in late October/Nov then as soon as each batch finishes. it gets shipped.

There will be more clarification on that when we get our cart online and when we officially start. (2 weeks)

If you have any further queries or need clarification let me know :)

Regards

Ok cool ... will hold off any purchases for 2 weeks. Would also love a meet/greet if possible before ploughing hard earned coins.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Blue777 on July 28, 2013, 03:49:37 PM
Thanks Sitarow  ^_^

And guys please remember, we are not trying to undercut any of the Bitfury Competitors, but our goal is to be one of the best options to chose from. especially for people that cant get the units on other places, for our local community and also let the community have a say in what they want. :) that is our goal and we will strive to live up to that :)

@ Dawie, yeah thanks. That is the plan.
Most of us really need opitions,not am,not Avalon.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 29, 2013, 07:38:19 AM
Thanks for all the feedback so long guys :) Everything is looking good for us to meet our estimations. Just a few more things to tie up and then our Cart will go live :)



Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Fjordbit on July 29, 2013, 06:43:11 PM
What is the power draw on these things?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Bitcoin_Bing on July 30, 2013, 04:11:25 AM
I love this.

ASICs in South Africa with no tax imports or waiting for shipment.

I will also invest in them as soon as I can.

What would the estimated power consumption on these units be?

Estimations are roughly 1W/GHs :)

Asked the same question. ^^^ is the answer.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 30, 2013, 08:25:27 AM
I love this.

ASICs in South Africa with no tax imports or waiting for shipment.

I will also invest in them as soon as I can.

What would the estimated power consumption on these units be?

Estimations are roughly 1W/GHs :)

Asked the same question. ^^^ is the answer.

Thanks for answering :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Bitcoin_Bing on July 30, 2013, 02:48:10 PM
Another few questions,

I noticed on your website you will be using the Raspberry Pi (included with the ASIC). Will you develop your own OS or will you go with the Minepeon release?

If you develop your own, will it be Linux or android based?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 31, 2013, 09:39:49 AM
Another few questions,

I noticed on your website you will be using the Raspberry Pi (included with the ASIC). Will you develop your own OS or will you go with the Minepeon release?

If you develop your own, will it be Linux or android based?

Hi :)

We are in chats with Bitfury regarding this. As to what will be the best method/OS to use. We will also test. I dont think that it will make that big of a difference. But it is a good Q, will look into putting this up on the site as well as soon as we have an answer :) Feel free to comment on this and to give suggestions with reasoning behind it etc. :)



Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Bitcoin_Bing on July 31, 2013, 12:11:59 PM
Well, I just wanted to know.

I am not a very big android fan. The Minepeon release is Linux based. It's designed for the ARM processor the Pi holds. Nice thing about Minepeon is, you don't need a screen, keyboard and mouse connected to the Pi. You type the ip address of the Pi into your pc web browser and login. From there you can set pools, see graphs, etc.

I like that method a bit more. Less clutter.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on July 31, 2013, 09:50:02 PM
Well, I just wanted to know.

I am not a very big android fan. The Minepeon release is Linux based. It's designed for the ARM processor the Pi holds. Nice thing about Minepeon is, you don't need a screen, keyboard and mouse connected to the Pi. You type the ip address of the Pi into your pc web browser and login. From there you can set pools, see graphs, etc.

I like that method a bit more. Less clutter.

Understood and will defn keep that in mind. :) thanks a bunch


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: icebear888 on August 01, 2013, 02:26:50 PM
Hi Leadnor!

How are things coming along?

It seems you guys are on track!!

Have a great day!

Cheers


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 02, 2013, 07:25:42 AM
Hi Leadnor!

How are things coming along?

It seems you guys are on track!!

Have a great day!

Cheers

Hey Icebear, Here is the latest information we have. Also posted on our facebook page.

We are still waiting for a few items to come into line for the final pricing and shopping cart but we plan on having an open cart on approximately the 12th.
 We are undertaking a website re-design so will let you know when that is live.
 Initial sales and unit reserve are good we have more than half our stock labeled as "sold"
 
remember to subscribe to this page and keep the comments flowing on the forum
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Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: DyslexicZombei on August 03, 2013, 09:26:19 AM
Hi leadnor,

I know us miners are an impatient bunch but: any update on the Oct./Nov. delivery estimate?

Your guys pricing is excellent but the network difficult difference between the beginning of October & November could be anywhere from 100-300% for all we know with all the new ASIC miners coming online. I'm trying to make up my mind on where to order my next rig & my funds become available right around the time your store opens for orders. Thanks!


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 03, 2013, 04:01:16 PM
Hi leadnor,

I know us miners are an impatient bunch but: any update on the Oct./Nov. delivery estimate?

Your guys pricing is excellent but the network difficult difference between the beginning of October & November could be anywhere from 100-300% for all we know with all the new ASIC miners coming online. I'm trying to make up my mind on where to order my next rig & my funds become available right around the time your store opens for orders. Thanks!

Hi,

I will have an update regarding our units early next week :) everything is still looking good for a Oct/nov delivery date though. I understand that the network difficulty could be a lot higher. that is true. Wish I could do something about that :)



Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: DyslexicZombei on August 03, 2013, 06:38:17 PM
Understood. Thanks for the quick reply! Timing works out better for me whatever I decide.

What is very helpful in your case is that Bitfury doesn't have to rely on anyone else for chips.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 04, 2013, 10:13:54 AM
Understood. Thanks for the quick reply! Timing works out better for me whatever I decide.

What is very helpful in your case is that Bitfury doesn't have to rely on anyone else for chips.

Hi DyslexicZombei,

Yeah it is nice that bitfury doesnt rely on anyone else for his chips :) He has been a real help to us regarding our startup, and also to get bitcoin asics into Africa, which is awesome. I respect him a lot.



Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: icebear888 on August 05, 2013, 12:37:23 PM
Hi Leadnor!

How are things coming along?

It seems you guys are on track!!

Have a great day!

Cheers

Hey Icebear, Here is the latest information we have. Also posted on our facebook page.

We are still waiting for a few items to come into line for the final pricing and shopping cart but we plan on having an open cart on approximately the 12th.
 We are undertaking a website re-design so will let you know when that is live.
 Initial sales and unit reserve are good we have more than half our stock labeled as "sold"
 
remember to subscribe to this page and keep the comments flowing on the forum
:


Thats great news!

Thanks for the feedback!

have a great day!


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: jmevz on August 05, 2013, 11:45:24 PM
Hi Leadnor,

Do you have any specs on full units, IE power rating in Watts etc, I'm mainly asking with regard to the 100GHS unit. Also, without doing my research (I apologize), are you taking pre-orders yet and will detail be posted in this forum?

Thanks,
Jeff


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 06, 2013, 10:49:35 AM
Hi Leadnor,

Do you have any specs on full units, IE power rating in Watts etc, I'm mainly asking with regard to the 100GHS unit. Also, without doing my research (I apologize), are you taking pre-orders yet and will detail be posted in this forum?

Thanks,
Jeff

yes all the details will be posted on this forum and our pre-orders open within one week :)

We have decided to go into talks with Cscape regarding his Control chip and PCB designs. we are just finalizing that part then we will have everything ready.

The power consumption at this point is under 1Wper GH/s which is Cscape estimations and testing at this point.

Things are looking good guys. :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: BitCsByBit on August 06, 2013, 11:33:30 AM
Hi Leadnor,

Do you have any specs on full units, IE power rating in Watts etc, I'm mainly asking with regard to the 100GHS unit. Also, without doing my research (I apologize), are you taking pre-orders yet and will detail be posted in this forum?

Thanks,
Jeff

yes all the details will be posted on this forum and our pre-orders open within one week :)

We have decided to go into talks with Cscape regarding his Control chip and PCB designs. we are just finalizing that part then we will have everything ready.

The power consumption at this point is under 1Wper GH/s which is Cscape estimations and testing at this point.

Things are looking good guys. :)

Is this the S-HASH board with a 50A power regulator?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 07, 2013, 08:24:06 AM
Hi Leadnor,

Do you have any specs on full units, IE power rating in Watts etc, I'm mainly asking with regard to the 100GHS unit. Also, without doing my research (I apologize), are you taking pre-orders yet and will detail be posted in this forum?

Thanks,
Jeff

yes all the details will be posted on this forum and our pre-orders open within one week :)

We have decided to go into talks with Cscape regarding his Control chip and PCB designs. we are just finalizing that part then we will have everything ready.

The power consumption at this point is under 1Wper GH/s which is Cscape estimations and testing at this point.

Things are looking good guys. :)

Is this the S-HASH board with a 50A power regulator?

Yep we are looking into using their design and control chips. Bitfury also said that they are a good option to use so we will give them a shot during our testing phase :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: kmtan on August 07, 2013, 03:23:52 PM
Hey everyone.

We have been in talks with Bitfury for a while now and are proud to announce that we will be supplying BitFury asic units to the community.



A bit about us.
We are a community based project here in South Africa, that decided to come together to create www.bitcoinza.com

As a lot of the current ASIC manufacturers out there only ship to the UK, or USA or certain parts of the globe. We decided to bring in Asic units to South Africa, and supply Africa with Asic miners. We will be using Bitfury's chips as well as his PCB designs, which at the moment are the 8chip pcb units.

We are also busy setting up the African bitcoin foundation that will be run from South Africa through volunteers, and our goal is to get a system in place here in South Africa that is Bitcoin friendly, which will in turn be a BTC safehaven. This includes legal issues and talking to the banks etc.

Thanks to Bitfury we will be extremely competitive in the market when it comes to price and also timeframe as our units are expected to be finished by October and ready for shipment. For an estimated price of roughly $1000 (BTC equivalent) per 24GH/s. This pricing will probably go down once we have finished with our testing and got our final quotes down. We want to be the most competitive out there, especially when it comes to date and pricing.


*UPDATE*
The estimation of the units right now are as follows.
24GH/s = 10-12BTC
50GH/s = 18-20BTC
100GH/s = 35BTC
200GH/s = 65 BTC
400GH/s = 110 BTC
(working off a $100/btc average. prices will change according to the current market, and prices are an estimation)


We will not open ourselves up for Pre-Orders, as we want to finish our testing phase. Which should be done within the next 2 weeks. And hopefully we will have a few other units available other than the 24GH/s option.

We will be selling the units in 4 initial batches which will be in batches of 25TH/s each. So as not to flood the market, and to give the network time to stabilize.
Should the 4 batches be sold before the end of the year, we will not ship any more units until next year, (probably February march) once again, to give the network time to stabilize. This is a promise we make to everyone.

https://i.imgur.com/sP0JPRy.png

We will be shipping worldwide.

Please message me if you have any questions.
Post them here on the forum.
Send me a personal mail to dewet@bitcoinza.com
Or to our support mail support@bitcoinza.com

And visit our site, www.bitcoinza.com
Any suggestion from the community to the SA community let us know.
Check our our new Facebook page : https://www.facebook.com/BitCoinZA

**edit
Please note our goal is not to undercut other asic manufacturers. But our goal is to stay competitive with prices for the international market. Plus giving our local community the option of getting an asic without having to pay the extra Import tax. And on top of that, we will be helping the South African and African bitcoin Foundation with funding and assistance where we can, and also providing them with monthly support. That is why we say, For the community, By the Community :)

sound great, for the pricing, i would suggest that you guy consider for the current diffultly of mining, the mining output are drop too much compare last month, it will be more hard coming soon, so, price is important vs to return... BFL doing withdrawn too much from the ecosystem, now everyone is upset ...


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: dawie on August 07, 2013, 04:09:21 PM
Amen to that kmtan!  We don't want to make the same mistakes if we could learn from the community.  Good feedback.
Great seeing a member of the Foundation on our thread.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: BecomingPhill on August 07, 2013, 04:35:00 PM
Hi

Am in Windhoek, Namibia. Preorders?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: dawie on August 07, 2013, 04:40:43 PM
Phill - Lekker om jou te ontmoet man  :D
Pop a mail to us at support@bitcoinza.com with the type of unit you have in mind and we will put your name in the list so long.  The requests are starting to stream in and we need to keep track until we go live.
Namibia- Awesome.  My dad is from Windhoek.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 07, 2013, 04:52:20 PM
A Great thanks to Dawie for answering so many of the questions so far. :)

Things are looking good guys. Having an investor meeting this coming weekend and then will have big feedback for everyone. Including our pricing structure.

The unit specs. And also the pre-order with date estimations. We are also finalizing everything with bitpay for our online BTC cart, and are trying to get the bitpay fullfillment by amazon. So our website will also undergo a complete redesign.

That means. Payment can be made with BTC, and will be shipped and handled by amazon :) which will mean we will be shipping worldwide.

I am also glad to say that the local demand for the units has been great and we are glad that we can be the ones bringing ASIC miners. Into Africa and South Africa.

BTC WORLDWIDE FTW.

Ontop of all that. We are also part of the newly formed African Bitcoin foundation. (started here in SA) and will be working hand in hand with them to get BTC awareness and major projects rolling forward.

Great stuff guys. Thanks to the community for giving us this opportunity.

For the community, By the community!!


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 09, 2013, 11:37:49 PM
Hey guys,

We have officially gone live :)

Go to our website for a quick view. We will be using C-Scape PCB boards and control chips with bitfury asic chips.

25GH/s   : 12BTC - Bitfury Minion
50GH/s   : 20BTC - Bitfury Gargoyle
100GH/s : 40BTC - Bitfury Goblin
200GH/s : 70BTC - Bitfury Ogre
400GH/s : 120BTC - Bitfury Wizard

Pop us a message for any comments, suggestions and thanks for all the support :)

We are taking the first batch of orders now. For those waiting for our cart. We are waiting for the last documentation and approval from bitpay so that we can use bitpay and the shipping service gets handled through amazon :)

Big UP to Bitfury and C-Scape for getting BTC asics into Africa, and going worldwide :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: BitCsByBit on August 10, 2013, 02:16:40 AM
Pricing? US or BTC?

Bitpay exchange rates rates are not great.

Will CC or Paypay be accepted.

Refunds offered?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Bitcoin_Bing on August 10, 2013, 09:30:30 AM
Hey guys,

We have officially gone live :)

Go to our website for a quick view. We will be using C-Scape PCB boards and control chips with bitfury asic chips.

25GH/s   : 12BTC - Bitfury Minion
50GH/s   : 20BTC - Bitfury Gargoyle
100GH/s : 40BTC - Bitfury Goblin
200GH/s : 70BTC - Bitfury Ogre
400GH/s : 120BTC - Bitfury Wizard

Pop us a message for any comments, suggestions and thanks for all the support :)

We are taking the first batch of orders now. For those waiting for our cart. We are waiting for the last documentation and approval from bitpay so that we can use bitpay and the shipping service gets handled through amazon :)

Big UP to Bitfury and C-Scape for getting BTC asics into Africa, and going worldwide :)

Great to see you used the suggested naming convention for the units! :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 11, 2013, 10:39:49 AM
Hey guys,

We have officially gone live :)

Go to our website for a quick view. We will be using C-Scape PCB boards and control chips with bitfury asic chips.

25GH/s   : 12BTC - Bitfury Minion
50GH/s   : 20BTC - Bitfury Gargoyle
100GH/s : 40BTC - Bitfury Goblin
200GH/s : 70BTC - Bitfury Ogre
400GH/s : 120BTC - Bitfury Wizard

Pop us a message for any comments, suggestions and thanks for all the support :)

We are taking the first batch of orders now. For those waiting for our cart. We are waiting for the last documentation and approval from bitpay so that we can use bitpay and the shipping service gets handled through amazon :)

Big UP to Bitfury and C-Scape for getting BTC asics into Africa, and going worldwide :)


Haha yeah, Like I said we like it. hehe. We just switched the Goblin and Ogre around. We will also be designing each one of them a specific picture. That will come on the boxes :) Makes us unique. Once again a great suggestion coming from this thread, :D Thanks a bunch
Great to see you used the suggested naming convention for the units! :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 11, 2013, 10:42:40 AM
Pricing? US or BTC?

Bitpay exchange rates rates are not great.

Will CC or Paypay be accepted.

Refunds offered?

Hi BitCsByBit,

We will be opening our orders a bit later to fiat, For those that absolutely can pay in BTC.

We will also be putting up our refund clause shortly :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: cscape on August 11, 2013, 08:47:20 PM
Just in case anybody is wondering, I'd like to confirm that we are really working together to make this happen. Happy mining  ;)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 11, 2013, 08:51:17 PM
Just in case anybody is wondering, I'd like to confirm that we are really working together to make this happen. Happy mining  ;)

Thanks Cscape for the reply. Its been a pleasure working with you guys on this massive project.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: intron on August 11, 2013, 09:03:45 PM
Just in case anybody is wondering, I'd like to confirm that we are really working together to make this happen. Happy mining  ;)

Thanks Cscape for the reply. Its been a pleasure working with you guys on this massive project.

Same here for intron. Happy hashing:)

intron


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Foofighter on August 11, 2013, 09:06:00 PM
Hey leadnor,

as I see this, the boards will be overclockable and people will probably need heatsinks to Run these boards then and cool them accordingly.

If you are interested I could do case design or heatsink design for this project, please contact me for details.

@cscape and intron
great work guys!


Foofighter


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Stratum on August 11, 2013, 09:09:34 PM
Could you please show us your testing units? Not old test pictures from the web but ones you have really taken yourself.

Here is a suggested method of proof: put the object in front of today's newspaper like this:

http://imgur.com/X838GGi

In this picture I prove that I have a fresh packet of peanuts. The peanuts I will be feeding you through the bars when you get locked up for white collar crime.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 11, 2013, 10:17:36 PM
Hey leadnor,

as I see this, the boards will be overclockable and people will probably need heatsinks to Run these boards then and cool them accordingly.

If you are interested I could do case design or heatsink design for this project, please contact me for details.

@cscape and intron
great work guys!


Foofighter

Awesome Foofighter. we will defn have a look into this. :) If we can get the current 3gh/s chips OC'd cleanly and safely. it would be awesome.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 11, 2013, 10:28:06 PM
Lets open this up to the community once again :)

Do you want us to ship with casings. Or our naked units that you can OC yourself and add extra cooling extra by yourselves?
Remember the naked units will run cooler the way they are.
:)

We could even give you 2 options to have casings or naked?

What do you think?  ??? ??? ???

8) let me know


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: crazyearner on August 12, 2013, 02:51:47 AM
any arangemtns to do local pick up and what options are they going to be besides bitcoin or is this to be btc only


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 12, 2013, 12:12:43 PM
any arangemtns to do local pick up and what options are they going to be besides bitcoin or is this to be btc only

Hi :)

Yes there will be local pickups. As soon as we receive the test chips from bitfury with the control chips, we will even make the test units available to the community so that can see we have it up and running here in South Africa and not just in the UK. :)

We are finalizing our bitpay account. then fiat would also be accepted on special circumstance. We want to try and keep everything in BTC as much as possible, to keep the btc flow going. But yeah :)

Plus a few more surprises for the South Africa community as well after the first few batches are sold. We are busy working toward getting BTC accepted as payment in South Africa in a lot of the biggest chain stores. That is our main goal. TO get BTC accepted as payment in South Africa :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: crazyearner on August 12, 2013, 09:55:30 PM
any arangemtns to do local pick up and what options are they going to be besides bitcoin or is this to be btc only

Hi :)

Yes there will be local pickups. As soon as we receive the test chips from bitfury with the control chips, we will even make the test units available to the community so that can see we have it up and running here in South Africa and not just in the UK. :)

We are finalizing our bitpay account. then fiat would also be accepted on special circumstance. We want to try and keep everything in BTC as much as possible, to keep the btc flow going. But yeah :)

Plus a few more surprises for the South Africa community as well after the first few batches are sold. We are busy working toward getting BTC accepted as payment in South Africa in a lot of the biggest chain stores. That is our main goal. TO get BTC accepted as payment in South Africa :)

So you are planning to do sales from within the UK then?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: nexus99 on August 12, 2013, 10:09:44 PM
I will keep an eye on you guys. Hoping that you can be cost competitive with the 400 GH/S units from other providers.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: WinterParker on August 15, 2013, 12:47:52 AM
Prices are okay but it seems, like a bit especially if we are looking at Oct or later for delivery.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: AcidRaZor on August 15, 2013, 04:13:28 PM
With the difficulty expected to be around 200mil by the time you guys ship; the only way you'd be able to break even on a unit is if you buy the 400GH/s one. Unfortunately I don't see the price for a BTC to go up any time soon to compensate for the slower rate due to difficulty. Unfortunately I don't have the money for a 400GH/s unit


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Foofighter on August 15, 2013, 05:27:41 PM
you have to consider that this boards can be fully oced, so dont calculate with non oced specs ;)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 15, 2013, 08:05:21 PM
hahaha yeah maybe we should OC the boards from the start ;)

At least we are using the new SHash boards from Cscape. So OCing will be a lot easier :) Things are going great guys. Once again thanks for all the support


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 15, 2013, 08:18:28 PM
Oh another "plus"  S-HASH boards have on-board networking, a 50Amp power supply and is easier to Overclock :)

lets hope we can get a lot more than the 50GH/s out of them while testing

1 PCB = 48-50GH/s :) So yeah.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: AcidRaZor on August 16, 2013, 06:23:22 AM
So by how much can a 50GH/s unit be overclocked for?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 16, 2013, 08:09:54 AM
We are still busy with the tests. Waiting on the new test chips to arrive now so that we can continue, and actually push a few units to the limit. :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: crazyearner on August 17, 2013, 04:27:04 AM
We are still busy with the tests. Waiting on the new test chips to arrive now so that we can continue, and actually push a few units to the limit. :)

Nice too see tests are been made I have 1 question in regards to the pre orders.

I have seen a jump in the 400GH price by 20BTC why has this gone up in price when prices where less than this befor?

Also instead of paying via site after submit or however you have done it can it be arranged for pay on collect ?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: dogie on August 17, 2013, 08:12:07 AM
If you want me to verify a prototype once its up and running, send it my way and let me know what baby food it likes. I'm sure my clients would be interested.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 18, 2013, 05:09:07 PM
If you want me to verify a prototype once its up and running, send it my way and let me know what baby food it likes. I'm sure my clients would be interested.

hahahaha :)

@crazyearner, Bitfury increased his price per chip. And also we are including quite a lot more with these boards. Including the SHash design which is overclockable instead of the current bitfury design that is out there.

You can pay when you collect sure. But the chances of us actually having any left in stock is extremely low. People pay now if they want to reserve the stock and reserve a unit, so that when it comes. They dont have to wait in a long queue like BFL etc. As we ship out all the units after they have been manufactured and assembled. Whereas if we do it piece by piece. We order one unit. ship that unit. order another etc. the lead times are extremely long.

So if we have any units left in stock. Then you are more than welcome to pay and collect. :)

Its like ordering a brand new Ferrari, The chances of the dealers ever having anything in stock is very slim so you put in your order so that when they do have. you get it asap :D

I hope I made sense there. Otherwise let me know and I will try rephrase, havent had much sleep the past few days. making sure everything is in order takes its toll hehe


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 19, 2013, 10:07:41 PM
We received a case design from a member of the community which looks amazing. Will ask him to put the design on the thread for you guys to see. :)


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 20, 2013, 10:30:22 PM
Intron is also busy testing the USB miners. aka 2 bitfury chips on a usb chip. :) awesome


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: AcidRaZor on August 22, 2013, 11:30:40 AM
With the estimated difficulty rising from 54mil to almost 67mil in the last week I seriously doubt any of this would be viable anymore


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: navidos on August 22, 2013, 11:57:38 AM
is your site down?


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 22, 2013, 10:26:25 PM
Hey guys,

We are upgrading our servers, so our site will be down but hopefully back up by tomorrow :) Then getting a new site this weekend. :D yay


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 23, 2013, 11:54:32 PM
Nice :) our servers have been upgraded. just waiting for our new site to go live.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 25, 2013, 10:37:32 PM
Just something interesting I came across.
Using the genesis block calculator.
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/a8318be69f
https://i.imgur.com/b48SfB4.png


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: nightengale on August 26, 2013, 02:33:50 AM
Very conservative network growth estimate you used; their default estimate would seem more realistic over the next 6 months... A little shady putting this up here.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: klondike_bar on August 26, 2013, 03:13:06 AM
Very conservative network growth estimate you used; their default estimate would seem more realistic over the next 6 months... A little shady putting this up here.

+1

the default network increase is roughly 50% higher then your 'calculation'


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: AussieHash on August 26, 2013, 07:41:13 AM
The past 8 difficulty changes have been
28.4%, 23.92%, 10.32%, 19.47%, 19.63%, 35.88%, 29.4% (most recent)

see the link from here https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmcTCtjBoRWUdHVRMHpqWUJValI1RlZiaEtCT1RrQmc

Each difficulty change is exponential, and occurs every 11 days or so, so almost 3/month

This works out to be approx 105% increase over the last 30 days

If you plug that into the genesis block  :o  

Currently we "only" have a difficulty of 65 million.  With a network of 9PH, the difficulty rises to about 1.5 billion.  If you sum together what the known ASIC suppliers have announced, 9PH will probably be added by early 2014.


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: AcidRaZor on August 26, 2013, 12:04:50 PM
FYI, I used the same link to do my estimations and found anything below 400GH/s won't break even in time or at all. Taking 50 GH/s for example never breaks even or make a profit


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: leadnor on August 26, 2013, 08:36:24 PM
Yep, we are working on that now :) and also having a chat with bitfury about this :) Lets see what we can do regarding the price :D


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: Foofighter on September 08, 2013, 11:14:46 AM
Any updates here?

EDIT: Case design available here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290328.msg3108756#msg3108756


Title: Re: www.bitcoinza.com - BitFury Asic Units!
Post by: MXRider on September 08, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
Is there anyone from South Africa who is interested in earning some bitcoins or a free Bitfury miner? There is a guy named Neill Roelofse (also known as Clipse) who stole hundreds of bitcoins from me and several other miners in summer 2012. He lives in Cape Town.

Send me a PM if you can help me. I don't want my bitcoins back any more, I want revenge.