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how can i join his Pump & Dump Group?

Just follow him in twitter,turn the text notifications buy the coins he twitted within 2mins or you will left behind by the pump,he is totally manipulating newbie's mind a total manipulator.

He is doing what he knows to do. Just getting newbies money from their wallets. Don't fall into this trap and make your own decisions while trading.
Pump and Dump is not a good way to profit from trading.

You'll be lucky if you already have the coin he'll tweet. Sure profit after the pump. 

There's no need for you to join his pump and dump group. You need to stay tune on his tweets and that is what everyone has been doing for a while now. And you need to be fast on buying those coins that he will tweet because you might stuck in the middle of it when you are too slow of doing it. So stay tune and keep on looking on his tweeter account and you'll be part of his pump and dump group.

It's not what You need! Be careful in making such decisions. Because he has nothing to lose anyway... But You can remain without money and tokens!

I don't understand how this man does such bullshit speculations, pump dump group! You think you will be one of the winners? Followers will be probably losers.

As what others said,he is just doing it to trap small fishes,and to pump his holdings he is just using his fame for more money.

I'm not quite sure that you can join him unless you have serious sums at your possession. But still he can be the one to fool you even in that case. Pump and dump isn't a very fare way of trading, but certainly is a profitable one

yes indeed john mcafee is seems active tweeting about investing and cryptocurrency lately.its seems fishy and i do believe he trying to control the market and gain a fast good profit from it. indeed he has some influece with his popularity but indeed if its true that what he is doing is pump and dumb just becarefull to follow it. it might be bad for long investment plan

Always follow his twitter you will get the all update .. no need to join !!! And always be careful when you invest ...

Just start following him on twitter as he mentioned recently that he would be shilling one coin a day which according to him has got potential in the future. However to us people who have been in crypto for long simply know that its p and d.

 Be careful, there is a fake account out there.  Make sure you are on the one with with 297K followers.

Seriously LOLed in person. I can't believe this John McAfee pump and dump group is a thing now. And people are making profit from it.

I'm very bullish on bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in general but this guy takes it over the top. Promising to eat his **** on live television if bitcoin doesn't reach $500k in a few years? How could anyone take that guy seriously. I guess people really like mad geniuses..

in crypto you don't believe to anyone who just said it will pump today,you need to research for your self so will know which crypto are for long term or for just daily profit.If you are just a trader you need to have a good faith to your coins so you can have a profit.Then dont forget the golden rule in crytpo just invest what you can afford to lose.

Just avoid pumps. You can lose much more then you can earn if you are beginer.

Pump and dump is not a way to go in Crypto, he is a thief , he just making money for himself..  You will lose more than you gain

He is a greedy person before he twit the coin he has already set orders,and will dump in just few minutes easy money and poor little fishes will get rekt.

Download Twitter app or any kind of instant twitter notifications. Follow John McAfee on Twitter. Be ready with your BTC on exchanges like Bittrex or hitbtc because you have no time to deposit any currencies at that time. Wait for his official tweet and buy immediately without checking the price. Start dumping eventually within 2 - 3 minutes.

pump and dump is not good for currerncys. so you can lose coin.

This of course, cool. And you do not consider yourself just an instrument that is manipulated?

find out all the coin that he retweeted and watch the coin value all the time and you are already join the pump and dump team. i not sure if you can get a profit from it but i think that the best way to join and may the profit be yours.

He also seems to be quite involved in this group: https://mgtci.com/. 

Pump n dump isn't a good luck. Only a few benefit while most lose out.

Looking for a pump and dump group should not be the way.This is not a good sign for the cryptocurrency ecosystem. John McAfee will end making many people lose their money while he rakes in more money. This should be discouraged.

In stock market the venture capitalist,equity groups and fund managers who play with others money control the stock market. A retail investor like all of us tend not to make much profits unless otherwise you bought the stocks in initial days.

I thought we are free from those big guys as there is not much of big shakers and movers. A retail investor would get a fair chance in the coin market.

Now after seeing tweets from McAfee and others it looks like the coin market is controlled by the famous guys. They are pump and dump experts eating away all the small profits made by newbie's.

Sad to hear this. Hope there will be some good days..

kinda pitiful how one maniac writing a hundred words or less is enough to move all these markets. just goes to show how dumb and vapid it all is. presumably it goes back to normal when he moves on to the next tweet.

You dont want to be part any of this PND madness,a lot of people are being rekt without any fight,dont join his devilish doings many lives will be torn apart from doing manipulation in the market.

Can you help how do you do the banner in your signature?

These are the kind of actions that takes credibility away from blockchain projects / crypto, dont think people should be encouraging him by listening to him

The best way is to just check which coins will be pumped in the next few minutes and if you are lucky enough, maybe some day he will choose to pump the ones you have. Don't event try to buy coins he suggests, most likely you'll just lose your money.

That idiot could not avoid virus popups and now giving lectures on crypto currencies.  :P

I have tried two or three times this kind of groups and most of the time I have lost money. It seems like a trap and I wouldn`t suggest to follow this kind of groups. But at the end is your decision that counts.

Word, most likely you will be late to buy those coins cheaper and will stuck with coins you do not want, or you will have to accept a loss

I think that if he has a pump group then the entrance for ordinary people is forbidden. Well, if for a simple one, then you need to follow his tweeter, because basically all the news is written there.

I saw him spamming in the groups by saying you are my next coin of the day   ;D

stay away from pump & dump and narcissists who tell you what you should buy with your money

if you are interested in a coin, read the whitpaper and then make your own decision

it`s your money, your responsible, your decision - don`t listen to narcissists

I didn't know that McAfee would do such manipulations. Why people follow it? It destroys crypto ecosystem. Necomers lose money.. Disappointed

McAfee gets 25 BTC for advertising any coins, so be cautious and stay away from his opinion.

25 BTC? Wherefrom do you got this number? That`s sound very high for me

Sooner or later the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) will catch him because of scalping. His attempts to manipulate the market are really obvious.

Mr. McAfee, creates an artificial pampus in which to climb dangerously, in 5 minutes a coin takes off into space by 30-50%, you need to predict the following coins, can you have any coins for tomorrow?

there is an image floating around of a correspondence with him over twitter asking for 25btc, but sounds like a fake account.

I'm fully agree with this person. If you really want to be the part of it, the best way to avoid the risk, do as was described in the instructions above.

While all Altcoins are down heavily today, Doge and Bytecoin are green. Are they going to be his next coin recommendations?  

Actually, there does not seem to be an "official" group dedicated specifically to using McAfee's tweets for trading, although I have seen in different groups on Twitter, Facebook and Telegram serious discussions about the usefulness or falsity of these recommendations. As always, discretion and a more exhasive analysis are suggested when making your own decisions, as we do not know what is behind McAfee's intentions in revealing these recommendations.

He is sending signals (tweets) between 14hs-15hs GMT Time, (forum time) so pay attention during that time because he is ussualy giving those signals between those hours.
But this will end soon, there isn't much people following his signals at the moment.

There are several groups who are doing pump and dump. It needn't to be McAfee alone. Only invest in coins you believe in.

The issue is he sends the tweet out in the middle of the night for me. By the time I wake up, the price is already pumped too much. I wonder if someone has made profit from his tweet (well except him and his close circle).

lol, what a shitshow. Bittrex comes instantly unreachable after his tweet. Propably he has his sell orders already in place to make $$$ out of fools.

Whoever tries to participate from his calls could lose money. Stay away from his calls.
There are only few people who really make profits. Rest will lose money.
Where winners exists, there are also losers.

The conclusion from all of the above is not to join any groups of pumps. These people earn their capital on it, when such as you lose there yours. Think about your head and everything will turn out for you.

True. Stay away.

Didn't even try to buy, just went to see what happens. Price was already coming down when finally got in about 8 minutes after his tweet. Many people lost their money today. He should stop this, it doesn't do any good for crypto.

And btw, by joining P&D goups, you risk your account on exchanges and your money in it. Atleast Bittrex has said that they'll ban all those who are participating in these. Think twice before going in.

Although I appreciate what John McAfee could help us when he tweets about a certain coin or token, it doesn't mean that it's perfect. Look at Electroneum. He tweeted it and pumped a bit. However, it didn't pump up to the highest level yet.

For now, it stays between $0.07 to $0.10 per ETN after McAfee tweeted about that. Don't just rely on him when it comes to pump and dump.

When it comes to investing in crypto currency the best thing is do your own research about the project and the dev team. Just because someone famous is supporting the project does not make it one. It is extremely easy in crypto currency world to manipulate investors mind and rob them of their money as it is still an unregulated market. I foresee that with rise of such incidents, crypto currency markets will soon invite regulations from authorities and am not really sure if that will be a good or bad thing for crypto investors.

Great.Bittrex just died after his tweet.
But there still was a green line on the way to the moon after millisecond after McAfee's tweet...

Screw this.

That's an additional point. Don't try to time pumps and stay away from them. It could mean your account get closed. McAfee is just doing it for its own purpose. He doesn't care about the coin at all. He prepares his pumps. You can't unless you know what he is thinking ;)

I believe and have been noticing that the tactic of pump and dump might be profitable for some, it really hurts a lot of serious investors who believe in a project and are the real supporters, the holders. Became a market maker and rip off some newbies is a strategy that the market maker is using to get more form the naive followers.
Imagine that I have loads of money, influence and pump a coin and dump it, every sheep will follow making a panic sell, what the sheep don´t know is that I am savvy investor that just dumped only half of my portfolio in that specific coin and created a fud to low its price and all the "foollowers" go in and dump their coins at a very low price, soon enough I am buying at one fifth of the original price, change my tone a month (time) from now and make the price rise, all the fools now are buying raising the price and making me 10 times richer.

Warren Buffet wisely said that the stock market is the place where the money is transferred from the impatient to the patient.

Don't believe this pump and dump groups.Also McAfee losing his value and just being as a pumper.There are rumors that he is taking commission and pumping coins and there is a video to prove his conversation on social media. I don't believe this guy anymore

So true, so you should be vigilant and aware of them. We are here to make money and to have profits. Just saying but it's true.

have a buddy that was mining Verge on a whim..and in the last month made a cool million bucks move to BTC on it

at the height ..good move in that it is down like 20% plus today (xmas day)

he still has a mess of it..HAS to pay tax on such but still 1/2 million in BTC after taxes is not too shabby...

.anyway, sometimes it is just luck (or John McCafee pumping a coin you hold on a whim) and money drops from the sky!

(somehow I missed out on him mentioning this long shot coin....Verge....alas..another boat missed) :) (I got a fleet of missed boats) :(

lol @op. Don't go chasing his tweets. Chances are you'll be too slow and the exchange too laggy thus you'll lose.

Yep, what happened to Verge...locked up after he announced his enthusiasm.....but you killed if  you had some and a wallet and

moved guick

he is pumping the humaniq token now thru ETH network...that is up like 70% now...

sheesh, Trump as President and John McCaffe as Guru...we are all frigging doomed! (little green men, need a ride off this planet!)

yes, there must be a group service for him, no one can predict the maret and i dont think he has such a strong influence on cryptos, he choose a little market cap coin and some one manipulated it

This will end at some time guys, you all are following this guy but at some point he will clearly stop doing this shit, you all know that maybe you can join that pump, but then you can easily lose if you are a dumb one or if you do not know how it works.

Hello guys, I don’t about this group.

But, I entered in a free discord group that manage pumps and dumps.

There are looking for members now, the goal is achieve 5k member for the next pump, that will happen in less than 3 days.

Join and help every member, including you make some profit: https://discord.gg/VaRuhhz

The group has some rules, and all make sense... if you are more trust and help the group, before you receive the pump announcement.

Follow the countdown: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20171228T15&p0=136&msg=Our+first+discord+pump.+&font=cursive

All that pump stuff seems to be a financical pyramid and it's literally is what it seems. I don't know why people are following that kind of pump but it's just a trap.

People need an extreme caution when they about to join the pump and dump group because it's too risky, the people chasing it will have a bigger possibility of losses. Although indirectly Mcafee is kind of creating the group because many people see him have a good vision in term of technology, so many people follow him.

He is a manipulator that take advantages of his fame to fool a lot of small fishes,dont swim to his tides or you will get rekt.

This thread should be deleted. He doesn't ever tell anyone to sell off, and most of them quadruple in price after he mentions it and stays that way. The only real downside I could see is if you can't sell at the peak after he promotes a coin. Of course I trade positionally so I like it if he mentions one I'm sitting on, then I can find another one to wait for him to mention. Always set your trade triggers.

As what others said,he is just doing it to trap small fishes,and to pump his holdings he is just using his fame for more money.

To those of you that have been getting his tweets and then immediately buying the coin on an exchange, are most of you profiting?  For example say he tweets a coin that is 5 cents.  I mean when you go buy it, does it automatically move so fast to say 8 cents already or not?


The other thing is my thoughts would be how about immediately buy the coin when he tweets it... say buy 1000 dollars worth.  Then watch the price go up.  Then say the price doubles... you keep watching but the moment it starts dropping... you immediately sell.  Or you set a goal such as okay buy 1000 dollars worth... once it goes up 50 or 100 percent, you immediately sell it no matter what to lock in the profit.  Thoughts on that?  So if this coin does go all the way down, well you locked in your profit by selling it back immediately.  Or of course if you held it and it goes higher etc... well you missed out but you locked in your profit.  Surely ppl do this?


Does anyone here think he will recommend a coin that isn't under 1 dollar?  Every coin he recommend is basically cents etc.

i dont like the fact that john is encouraging pump and dumb. its not health for the crypto market.

i totally agree with do your own research.

See my first post below. The problem is that by the time u see his tweet, get to the coin, and buy the coin: it's already skyrocketed in price and you'll likely buy it at way too high price and will end up with a loss, and possibly a huge one. Timing is so tight on this it's way risky. Also apparently there's bots that react to his tweets which makes things move super fast.

The only way to really win is to already have the coin he's gonna tweet and have a sale order in place at 2x etc.

pump and dump groups are like pyramid systems, those at the top have faster information they dump the coins on those that bought later.

regards

The account in the video is fake. One of the i's is a lowercase L.

There isn't any video about it, and in any case, i would never believe in him again, i have saw that on reddit there are screenshots about him asking for a fee of 20 btc + 15% of the total supply in order to pump a shitcoin.

That is not fair, obviously that it is not.

he is making a bunch of money just for pumping dust that has some "value" that no one believes on.

This seriously need to stop, a lot of people lost money today because they entered later to the pump

Now many people started to follow him on twitter. He can manipulate market easily. Because when he shares a coin, people buy immediately and in 5 mins  coin makes 2X. I think he gets comission from coin owners for promoting. You dont need to join a group just turn on notifications on twitter for his account.

That doesnt matter anymore as HumanIQ ended just like usual pump and dump.
So many people lost their money and stuck in this coin because of his tweet.

Never listen anyone except yourself

I think some of the picks are decent.  Verge is good, a little over valued though.  I like REDD Coin as well for the long run.  It comes with a solid community with a lot of tech savvy developers.  Social network is solid for cryptos in the long run.  Redd coin is s imilar to steem but under valued I think the platform and tech will just get better...

I don't know why he did use his famous to leverage the market , maybe he earns ton of money for it

Do you think pump and dump will make profit? I don't think so, usually admin will buy first and sell it after pump.  And member get huge Lost

Maybe just for the lolz.
You don't know how Social Media is like to those who got nothing to do with their money.
Pump and Dump as a group can manipulate the markets, but with Tweets, there will always be latecomers.

Everyone is into pump and dump these days. People don't understand how much it hurts the altcoin economy. If things like this continue, then altcoin will surely end up becoming a bubble and burst very hard. It's better to invest in coins which you think has good potential. Remember pump and dump is a scheme in which a lot of people lose so that some people can win. And if you are a small fish or a latecomer, then your chances of losing increase even more.
 
And as for the John Mcafee, there have been rumors that he takes a good amount of BTC to promote a coin. See this tweet: https://twitter.com/RobinSchmid11/status/944451906944028673 

I was caught in the act once and since then i have stopped doing anything pump and dump. Whosoever that tweeted or suggested the pump. My money still hanging on cryptopia as a result of the pump i bought.

I really want to be his shoes.

He is buying crypo, making a tweet and dumping them. The best way to profit.

He shilled trx today. Binance is dying on trx page.

You dont need a devil's work to win the game,joining PND groups is a risky move because exchanges are disabling these PND people.

Don't disturb yourself with all this pump and dump group they don't give right thing all the time, if you want to trade do your own personal research on the coin and you may be lucky trader with that. Those guys only make profit for themself. Do not idolize him.

geeze. literally took 5 minutes from his tweet for Tron to spike more than 20 percent.

People have API trading bots following his tweets. You won't get on the train before it takes off unless you hold the coins before his tweets. Like today with humaniq the price was 300% not 15 seconds after the tweet. Bot's raise the praise, lemmings thinking that they got there first buy in and the price falls back to normal just like with humaniq.

he pump coins in way nonsens

I'm surprised he continues to do it.  Even if he is following principals and NOT buying into these before pumping up the price, it is easy to assume he is, which just generates public negativity.

Can someone explain how bots are even allowed?  Why do exchanges allow bots?  

I was wondering too.  Does binance have an api or something, or are people just writing scripts that push http posts from logged in machines?

McAfee changed from coins of the days to coins of the week due to many people complain about it. Even McAfee itself said those who chase the pump and dumps are losing out.

As far as I know all the exchange allow API trading bots. I don't know why they allow them but I think it is too artificially inflate their exchange volume.

At least now he will make his pump weekly not daily he just made a tweet about it.

Also, it is not effective it used to be. Like 20x with verge.

This is really obvious because i think that John McAfee is just accumulating first at the lower end of the coin and after seeing that the coin has a few walls or resistance then he will announced in Twitter that this coin for example has a great type of technology and after that then it will just go up and he will sell for an easy 100% or 200% return.

It is the best job actually.

Daily near %100 income is perfect. And he is just tweeting.

He probably made his crypto portfolio 10x in 3-4 days.

You're a full member and you want to join a pump and dump group?
And on top of that John McAfee's?

Either you are trolling for comments or you bought that account.
I don't know of anyone that has experience in investing that recommends pump and dump groups.
They are a great way to make tons of easy money . . . if you are the scammer yourself.
Well, a group of scammers really.
Everyone else will inevitably lose, and lose big.

Just in this thread there are pages of warnings with valid reasons not to join one.
Just like in other markets, scammers make the most out of those who have the lazy mentality of "Get rich quick"
They are very easy prey.

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Like the guy needs anymore money ??? At least his antivirus I'm using right now is free for a year. lol He must create new accounts on exchanges all the time.

I've been watching and also partaking in some of mcaffees pumps.  Some like Reddcoin have held up even after the initial pump.  Other's are so volatile.  Verge has been up and down so much after his initial pump then some controversial news.

Anyways his pump/dumps are being less effective now, as people realize what's going on and you can buy in at the wrong time

its cheating right. in a whatsapp group somany are telling that they loast money with this program,.may be they cannot buy within the time limit. thats why. anyway i am not going to by any coin with his tweet

looks like someone had enough and hack his twitter and is sending out hilarious tweets.

oh man it's hilarious dump on those bots boys! lolololol

yea, messing with the bots, but could also have their own bot running to sell off after the spike.

Have you ever seen his posts lately? There are too many coins that he did mentioned and many are assuming he got hacked.

He forgot to enable his antivirus(McAfee) and it wasn't able to stop the hacker*.

i can not understand how the fuck there is a lot of people using this kind of opportunities in order to earn some easy bucks.

This guy is a dumb one, i dont understand why you all are following him like if he was god.

Its not healthy though.. it create FUD News manipulation from whales and other new traders in the market makes you rekt if you FOMOing in same situation, avoid following  this guy..

Those people instead of whining and crying for their lost, they are riding the pump and just dump it lately when there's enough profit. We know how volatile crypto's are and with every single words from those popular and influential people are something that makes those coins pump.

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They are not following him as if he's like god but they are following him because it's all about profit.

I think that when people talk about a pampa of a currency or a dump, it is necessary to prepare for a couple of hours and wait or enter, if there are prerequisites. But, when the time is meant, it's too late, since it's a scam.

His Twitter account was hacked.

Everybody wants to join these groups for the pumps, but most end up being the ones who just get the dumps.

he will also talk about ICO of the week, as seen here https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/946122811671830529

which ICO is going to be mentioned?  Nova Token (Novablitz) ?
Novablitz replied to Mcafee's tweet earlier.

https://twitter.com/NovaBlitz/status/946202062093561856

Novablitz's telegram group https://t.me/Novablitz
Novablitz's telegram announcement channel https://t.me/novablitzofficial

This is a huge potential platform for esports and card gaming industry.
They have highly experienced development team and also they are being advised by some of the pioneers in the industry like Richard Garfield, creator of Magic: The Gathering, and Skaff Elias, creator of the Magic Pro Tour.

If you decide to follow his tweet. I heard there is a bot that would do the buying right away based on his tweet. Maybe you could try.
Also, do carefully evaluation about the bot because there is a chance of loosing all when giving the vault key for a stranger (although we do it all time with the password organizing program)

Why the people are propagating legendary name for signals because he is not providing any signals to the people, so I suggest people without knowing completely don't invest in this group signals.

If anyone insists on joining a P&D group they would have to be very disciplined and resolve to not wanting to make too much profit per each trade, and dont be greedy.

For example:  Lets say you bought 0.01 btc worth of some shit coins that is about to be pumped, and now the price starts reaching and you discover that there is enough liquidity to market sell to earn 0.02 BTC or 0.015 BTC after paying Bittrex trading fees and you go ahead and perform that sell, now you have profited 0.005 BTC not bad for an initial investment of 0.01 BTC.

BUT... If you invest say 0.01 worth of BTC and you decide you want to be greedy as fuck and would like to sell when the price reaches the equivalent of 0.05 BTC or more because you see the purchases running up.  Then all of the sudden the running up stops and is very quickly followed by rapidly "running down", the market is crashing because the "dump" phase has begun.  At this point you are very late, you will HAVE to sell as a price much lower than your entry price, if you dont then you will have to resolve to holding the bag, your 0.01 BTC worth of bags is now worth 0.001 BTC

So, it IS possible to make money on one of these P&D groups provided that you get in VERY FAST AND QUICK, if the ticker had already sky rocketed too high and you aren't in yet, then forget it, skip this pump, it would be to the best of your interests to do so.

Okay, I have finished talking about Pump and Dumps.  Now lets talk about another important RISK you will be getting yourself into if you decide to participate in any Bittrex P&D groups.  Bittrex has been disabling accounts recently to thousands of users, as evidenced by many threads I have been reading here on Bitcointalk.  This has been bought to my attention from reddit yesterday, I didn't knew about this until I came across a thread on reddit about international users getting their verified accounts frozen without any reasons and getting ignored by bittrex.  I am a bittrex user and perform trades almost every day, and so far I have not been having any issues, but in the same hands I am in the USA and I am not read almost any complaints from USA customers getting the accounts blocked.  Well anyways the point that I am trying to come across is that IF Bittrex comes to the attention that you are partaking in Pump and Dump groups they might freeze your account.  Bittrex already sent a communication expressing their distaste about users taking part in Pump and Dumps groups in an email I received not to long ago (between November to early December).  So participating in a P&D group is a great way to getting yourself into Bittrex' lottery where the prize is a chance of getting your account frozen.  So THIS is probably the strongest reason to steer away from P&D groups.

Your possible question:
Q: How can Bittrex DETECT that I am taking part in a P&D group?
A: Someone from Bittrex might already be a member of the very same P&D group you are a member of, then can see what is the current coin being pushed for the day, they can analyze this data against the patterns they see on their exchange.  For example:
"Bitcoin Diamonds" is being pumped, YOU go ahead and buy "Bitcoin Diamonds" from your Bittrex account and then sell them at a little bit profit, done.
Next day "Pink Coin" is being pumped, YOU go ahead and buy "Pink Coin" from your Bittrex account and then sell them at a little bit profit, done.
Next day ........... [you get the point]..
All this purchases of yours happens within 30 seconds to 2 minutes after that particular coin was published on the P&D group.  It would be very easy for Bittrex admins to see, by analyzing your account's history that you must have been taking part in a P&D group and then can ban you accordingly.  Also bittrex mentioned on the same communication I received over email that they can also give part to the authorities, so taking part in a Bittrex P&D group can not only risk getting your account suspended, but also can risk you getting into legal trouble.

So, to do or not to do?  Dont do it.

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Now John McAfee P&D group is only once a week. lol..

He has lots of haters... I feel bad for him.

Hmm. McAfee just tweeted about Bob's Repair, an ICO I've not heard of, but i think their idea is quite sound. I certainly support using a blockchain to validate reviews are from actual customers.

Does anyone know how much profit was made in his last tweet if you are ready on your computer to buy the coin and then dump the coin?

Why are trying to join his pump and dump group? Are you sure you will het profit by joining his group?
Join pump and dump group is really big risk. The only people will get rich is the admin. Just do own research is more than better.

I fond that hot ICO projects are bought by many big organizations or companies, and if one ICO project need  advertisments everywhere, I think it is not hot.

He sold his interest in the antivirus company 24 years ago

pump and dump is not good for crypto :(

DOGE, DOGE, DOGE, buy, buy, buy!!!!!

Wow! it is not advisable to take advice from others without doing your own research. You might lose your funds but it is your decision. Take Care

Be careful, there is a fake account out there.  Make sure you are on the one with with 297K followers.  :) :) :)

I think there are no public facebook group or telegram group from John McAfee.But i know he always provide alt coin pump & dump update news by tweet.You can follow in twitter.

Just follow his REAL TWİTTER ACCOUNT. I don't know if he has a group on Telegram or another communucation media applications. However i think just follow his Twitter account is okay for you. He shared coin of the week few minutes ago. :)

This guy is funny to listen, but real good recommendations......no way.
Today he announced DodgeCoin...wtf

I have a double impression of McAfee. On the one hand, I learn from him about really interesting ICO campaigns. But these pumps and dumps create an unhealthy environment around crypto.

You join the way he plays, and eventually you will lose. Be careful in trading, do not easily believe even though he is a famous person. Stay on your trading path and you'll be successful someday.

Will for me John McAfee is expert only of making in sofware programs,but in terms of cryptocurrency he is only in average level and also his group with him is only studying the investment trading program about digital currency,and part of there study is surveying those bitcoiner there experience about trading and how often times they encounter the pump and dump happens in bitcoins.so if  im in your position its better that you can make your own learning experience  about investment trading and never depends on the idea of mcafee group,because for me learning is the best experience.

Stay away from the coin he tweeted. That's what I do

He have failed today with DogeCoin... It's falling down -16.02% according to coinmarketcap but, ey, everyone is falling down today so... should we wait?

NO!!! Buy the dip!!! Buy the DOGE dip!!!!

It´s very risk to do that. As you said, the coins are beind pumped without any objetive reason so they can dump in any moment. You should just do your own research and invest in what you think that is better.

I still don't believe that pump and dump groups are effective, unless the members of such groups have huge amounts of coins. With a limited number of people you can only manipulate worthless coins, if you can't get thousands of people going, chances are, you aren't going to affect the price of one coin that much.

If you learned about the pamp and want to participate in it, then after you enter the specified time in the position, most likely you will get under the dump, you will earn money.

Pump and dump? This is not advisable, you might just get caught in the middle and eventually be the looser. Be careful.

He needs money, beside the fact that a man has to eat, this particular man has to eat his own jumping instrument if Bitcoin price is not high enough by the predicted date, be a beggar with no dignity like me, ignore the people who are Billionaires now because of the same people participating in pump and dump activities being conducted by guys like McAfee.

I noticed he picked dogecoin.  Does anyone know if you could have made profit on the coin if you were right at your computer ready to buy it?  Because i noticed that the price didn't seem to go that much etc.

There is great wisdom in what you said. But everything is risk. Even not taking a risk is risky in itself.

John McAfee is the most honest man in Crypto.

tried to participate in the last with the DOGE coins, that then the pump was not huge.

You're honestly better off just doing your own research and buying into products you believe in. 2018 will be a really strange year for crypto and I suspect that many frauds will be revealed.

You will end up losing your money in a pump and dump. Is John McAfee still shilling coins,  I thought he stopped after his tweeter got hacked

No, he still do it bun only 3 times a week

just make sure to max out the profit you can get on the pump and dump of the coins, most of the time it is just a bull trap and most investors will dump the coin easily at highest. hope you can read graph of sell and buy so you can be at the top when you are selling your holdings.

To be honest pump and dump is not good for Crypto future growth and this man calls just makes the cryptos suffer after people make their money and leave. This is bad if you ask me. I would try to stay away from such group and pick my coins where there is active development and strong community. However, if you still need to be part of such group you can follow his calls on Twitter but remember to immediately take action when he posts for the early investors seem to gain(though do this after doing your due diligence).

Thanks and have a nice day.

As i understand there is no profit after a little time of the pump....

Agree if you are a newbie in trading pump and dump strategy is not good you may be lucky for the first or the second time but once you caught on trap and there is a massive dump you can't get out anymore and you maybe a long time investor for that coin unexpectedly.  but it is your choice anyway but again it is very risky.

Who can tell me right when he post pumps now? 2 times or three times per week?

you will never make Profit as a normal user with pump and dumps.
you have to know that way before the pump is anounced to the public..

Nobody would know! Its a big risk!

Guys, if you need reliable advise on Crypto market and if you want to be a part of active pump and HOLD group then join us at telegram:

https://t.me/CryptopiaPumpCommunity

We take information from the experts and bots too. Come join, it is a free group. And post Easy pump & dumps tutorial video’s. ;)

I have gained a lot with pump.
This group looks promising!
https://t.me/pumptupinikins

Don't do it. At least you can simply  lose money since all pump'n'dump information is heavily manipulated.

Moreover, you can simply be banned from almost any big exchange: they do not allow any pump'n'dump trading patterns.

I think john mcafee is very influential in the world of crypto, whether it is a positive or negative influence, but we should use this to make a profit, buy any coin that is supported by john mcafee

Has anyone actually made money following these swings?

This is such a worrying direction for the market to be taking. Shows too much manipulationa and uneducated 'investing'. Its more like betting.

If things continue this way there is not long before the crash...

My advice is that if you are staying in the market through this crash make sure your money is in tokens or coins with usable and revolutionary technology behind them. Mmost will implode and be worthless.

Hello guys... my suggestion for pump group: https://discord.gg/Wdgj58%5Burl%5D%5D%5Dhttps://discord.gg/Wdgj58%5Burl%5D%5B/url%5D

Today a group that I participate will do a pump, in 4 hours.

If you wanna join by your own risk

I like this F king Guy..He understand how to make money

Forget this group, unless you pay for some signals.
in my opinion it is too expensive.
I decided to get rid of some groups, and decided to become a normal person without a bot.

Hello guys ,

I have found this Google Spreadsheet regarding best telegram pump groups : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r9YTdXRw2LWv8LZ0moRlPJRGGiZG3le2E6tfPjyIrdg/edit#gid=0
You may want to add your groups inside

I would like to share this group also : http://pumplist.io/pumpmywallet/ , it seems to be a very good raising pump group , they also forward call from other groups


A good pick also is Big Pump Signals with 80k activer members, huge spike you don't want to miss on Binance : https://discord.gg/uW93RWN


feel free to join  ;)

There are a lot of pump and dump groups already out there, this one for example.
https://discord.gg/YScFCyX

Happy trading!

Nice group, I do pumps in dump in many groups, personally I like this one below, had a nice conversation with the owner and made +80% in the their first pump:

https://t.me/profitmaniacs

John Mcafee lost most of his credibility in the cryptoworld. i will not be surprised if he take money from devs to promote their coins.

Mcafee is good in security and anti-virus but not in cryptocurrencies.

Stay away from them, they prey on the newbies

want to join a free pump and dump group with huge profit? join this link: t.me/freepumpndump ! We start soon with this group so join us if you want to make money!

I am being searching for good pump & dump groups recently,
I have found a lot of them, but IMHO this one is the best: 85k members and growing,
it is on discord, you need to follow a few rules to participate but they all make sense.

today afternoon there will be the next pump, so if you want to join, here's the invitation:

https://discord.gg/Kg4nFXC

pls consider that invitations will close soon

enjoy!

You might end up loosing all your investment if you relied on pump and dump group... Try make research yourself and choose promissing project... YouTube can also be of help..

yea, messing with the bots, but could also have their own bot running to sell off after the spike.

Pump and dump groups are always dangerous. If you buy the coin at the stage of dumping! then you will lose a lot in just seconds :/

Maybe you will feel much better for yourself if you learn how to independently find powerful projects, research and support them, and earn good money together. Sorry for my tediousness :)

Agreed! He's the smartest & funniest guy in Crypto

discord.gg/ADRw3aX   Join our crypto pump group, we are looking for members but also collaborations with other pump groups! We will start to pump our own coins soon!

Only admins of pump-and-dump groups can make profits. Do not be crazy

I saw a McAfee "pump and dump" group, but
1. I don't support illegal activities like pump and dump.
2. It is for sure not McAfee, who leads pump and dump groups.
He also doesn't give daily predictions on twitter and announced to have been hacked on Twitter.

🚀 Formation of new pumping group:🚀
https://t.me/PumpedUpCrypt

First pump within less than 24 hours in cohort with other groups:
- On Cryptopia
- No pre-pumping. No levels. Everyone gets the name of the coin at the same time
- Two stage pumping: initial pump followed by FOMO organic pump due to the high volume so you are sure to make profit as long as you HODL
- Currently every other day as the group is not big enough for independent pumps yet so has to be coordinated with other groups. Once it reaches 2K members, it will be daily. So be sure to share and invite your friends.

it is up to you if you want to join such group. there is no need really, but if you feel like it you are free to join just don’t inest much just yet..i am quite skeptical about it. however i am also hopping it would be a successful after all you are backed by a man who is a believer of crypto currencies.

Recently join this group on discord

https://discord.gg/uJZWuMW (https://discord.gg/uJZWuMW)

Has a lot member, let see where its going

Hello everyone! We created a brand new pump group on Coinexchange. Join and follow the rules if you want to make some money with us! Join our channel now. And wait for the first pump!

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One of the best groups around here.

Many members, Discord, Telegram, analysis after the pump, rewards. Not so greedy guys.

Definitely give it the try!

https://discord.gg/ksHBQVf

bots and pump and dump not working :( ...lost money on that. Trying to do pump and HODL for unervalued coins. Check yourself: https://discord.gg/mscJyQt

Ahh noo. I don’t understand why you wanna join this kinda group. I also don’t like McAfee, he is just trying to manipulate the market even he said that he’s been hacked. Idk

I dont understand why people join this kind of pump and dump groups. It is very dangereous. They buy before they write there and they sell their coins to these people who buy after they write. Instead of that you should join group which give technical analysis.

I have a double impression of McAfee. On the one hand, I learn from him about really interesting ICO campaigns. But these pumps and dumps create an unhealthy environment around crypto.

Have you seen the latest hack of John'S Twitter account? This was so funny men. A hacker compromised his account and tweeted coin recommendations every minute. Everytime he did that a green candle occured. I think he confused bots with that, because many people built McAffee autobuy bots. :D

Dont trust this John McAfee!He is talking  to much and  do the things wrong,the pump and dump is to dangerous if u dont have bot no needs to do like this things,try to buy and hodl it is the best!and do bounty when u become  legendary u get nice $!

Why people following this shit pump and dump group?
You will loss your money, admin will be winner and member loser

Just be online 24/7 in twitter and have your funds ready because in first 1 minute you have to buy token that he announce with all your funds for better profit but just be careful because if the pump stops and your token didnt purchase you will face consiquences

yeah you're right, i think he also started promoting some ICOs lately, he begun a program calling it the ICO of the week, he at least prpmote 3 ICOs each week, he shared bezop i think this one is good

thanks mate for giving us newbies the right info

thank you for giving us newbies the right knowledge

FUCK Jhon McAfee, NO ONE cares about him, why are you asking this shit?

There is no one following his tips/signals/shills anymore, you can check by yourself that no one is buying all them anymore, are those who tried to create bots are broke right now.

Mcafee is crap.

I don't understand people who try to make money with this pump and dump groups. Don't they realize that this groups are made to make money for few and the rest is just paying the price?

Lol just stay away from pump and dump and do your own research on the token/coins you want and sleep easy at night.

Last time i see pump dump group only in fairpump with their free info, and from what i see a lot of people loss in short time because can't sell coins that they already buy in high price. maybe it is good to stay away from something like that

good to know

thanks mate good to know

thanks mate for giving knowledge to us newbies

I still can not understand why this dude is popular? Yes, most of the projects that he advertised simply exploded prices, but the totals were still blown off, if everyone understands that this is just a group for pumping money, then you can just use the case.

You just need to be subscribed to his Twitter feed and to buy coins which he advises.

Because its not easy to learn how to properly trade and successfully make a profit, its requires a lot of time, experience and patience. I'm sure the impatience people will chose to join the pump and dump group things because they feel it easy. But truth is its really bad, even though you have a legit pump and dump group that had done a pumps. And actually, I agree with you, the owner and insiders is the only who truly making a profit, and the followers is only a sheep waiting for the leader.

John McAfee is one of the celebrities of tech world. He is also a bit strange and crazy wild. But he knows what it takes to be an influencer in this crypto world, so he started to gather masses of people-crypto sheeps to follow hih and his advice. I have never got into his group, or did buy a coin he suggested because this frenzy of following a crypto shepard was with us in 2014,2015 and never ended well.

Had to come to the forum when I came across this: https://www.gamble.io/news/john-mcafee-is-manipulating-the-crypto-market-and-this-is-how-he-does-it

This is what's regulation is for. Isn't this peak insider trading? How on earth is he not going down for it? It's costing people millions and still that guy is on the loose.

Mcfe has lots of comunity lots of people trust him with rly big cash. So i thing when he post any news about crypto hi and him friends can invest cash. Anyway prople with good ammount invest over 100 k 200 k can rly big pomp coins. Why they pomp all times coins with low volumen ? They pomp all coins with maximum 20/50 btc. It is easy. If we have group with fiew prople and we have 100 btc we can do all.

Why would you want any regulations? Do you want moon missions to be even more scarce? Do you want exponential growth to stop? Do you want to wageslave till you're 65?

any pump and dump efforts are risky, please be very cautious!

Just watch out his twitter account which he announces the coin of the week or the ICO of the week . basically after a minute or two
you will see a big sway in candle sticksc chart of that paritcular coin he is announcing hahaha
I am lucky enough to increase my investment when he anounce the TRX tron token hehehe. thats it or find his telegram or discord group

It´s very risky to do that. As you said, the coins are being pumped without any objective reason so they can dump in any moment. You should just do your own research and invest in what you think that is better.

If anyone IS interested I am a part of a pump group called Mega Pump! Official John McAfee follows us on Twitter! Another part of our community is the youtube streamer, Tony Ivanov. Even if you choose not to participate in the group PnDs. It is still a helpful community. :) Hope to see you there. Discord link: https://discord.gg/4HVSgPh

I recently bought Syscoin base on my analysis and after a few hours, I was surprised with the price that immediately pump. I knew later that it was tweeted by John McaAfee so that is the effect of his tweet. I got lucky then I was able to buy it before the pump and I immediately sold the coin because I already set a sell price. After a while, price is dumping and even lower before the pump. This is not good for the crypto community as mostly those newbies who are just following the hype are taking the dump. I've been trading on Bittrex and they already warn those who are participating in the pump and dump to suspend their accounts so it would be better to just do your own research because most of the time, the one who profit in the P and D scheme are the ones who are implementing it.

McAfee could be pumping the coins that he chooses. There is no chance of him being correct 100% of the time.

They use cryptopia exchange. They will start pumping soon, as they reach a good number of members. It's promising. I think it's a good idea to join.
Here's the link: https://t.me/MillionDollarPump

Join here :

https://t.me/PumpGainz

https://twitter.com/PumpGainz

I do not listen to John at all, hes a waste of time.
Long Live the Deep Onion!

hey, check out this pump group: https://t.me/pumphodlprofit …they are trying to pump some quality coins and encourage everyone to hold on to some for the long term…pump now, moon later!

ATTENTION: NEW TG PUMP AND DUMP GROUP for CRYPTOPIA


Several pumps a week, last pump made more than 300% profit!!!!

Message of a user I got today:
https://i.imgur.com/0rx7lMu.jpg

What are you waiting for, the rush of AltCoins won't last forever!!

🚀 Fly to the Moon with us! 🚀
https://t.me/rocketsciencepumps
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Hey guys. I found this website with Pump and Dump telegram group listing worth checking it out and compare them.
https://railsonwave.it/crypto-pump-and-dump-groups/

the binance fud thing should be the last straw for this guy, but it probably won't be.

he is a madman only interested in enriching himself. i can't believe he came out of nowhere really not very long ago and people started to take him seriously. many a poster on here has far deeper knowledge than he does.

i guess we're probably stuck with him. people get too many shots in crypto anyway but he has that extra history to draw on.

He's a brand name, people feel comfortable with their favorite brand.

then they're unbelievably stupid. 1980s john mcafee would've been worth listening to. he was sober and productive.

these days he's fallen off the wagon and it's run him over about a thousand times.

crypto people are so desperate to find authority figures to tell them what to think and do that he'll be able to milk them forever but it's to their never ending detriment.

And why do you want to join his pump and dump group? We all know that what he is doing is not bringing any good to the cryptoshere. Manipulating is illegal if only there is a law in cryptocurrency.

I fell victim to this sort of thing. Thought the signals from telegram where genuine, so I would buy even though the Ta was wrong and now I'm down several satoshis because no sooner had it pumped, it dumped.

pump and dump grups are really dangerous. yes you can make benefit but you can make loss in same time. it is completely more risky.

I do not understand why people want to join the pumping and flushing group because you will always lose your money in the end and the only winner is the group leader who is John McAfee in this case. This guy has a lot of followers on Twitter so the coin he tweeted will pump a lot and the last guy who bought his bags will lose all the money.

Why are you interested in joining john mcafee pump and dump group? pump and dump is not a good character for trading, you may gain some but also for sure you will lose some if you will be the last guy on train. Last time that i checked his twitter, there are so many newbie in cryptos followers, sigh*

John McAfee team is a market manipulator before he tweet a coin or token a lot of coin he alread hodl. Your so lucky if you own also that coin but to buy just to follow the tweet of mcaffee you cannot sure if you will win because we already know that mcafee is a pump and pump. never trust his tweet.

#Datarius

The same reason they join Ponzi schemes, Greed. They think they are smart enough not to be the last one holding the "Hot Potato" when the music stops. :)

No one helps for free of cost. Even not McAfee. Will he just help a company? People will only enjoy their own interests, but these people are making us fool in front of everyone. so we should avoid him.....

i think he has recently joined the debitum group. i am not sure what the future holds, whatever it is i hope its good

Lol first thing I found when googling Debitum Group. LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpTOtH4Omw8


Has anyone ever checked if any coins he has shilled have been anything other that Pump and Dumps?

Do any of them besides Bitcoin have a future?

I think that this man is very skillful in dealing with people, because today almost the whole planet knows him and he very well uses his popularity, looking at all this seems to me that he does not need a business, he has enough of the money that he gets paid projects that he advertises and pumps

.

They have chat on BTC-Alpha where UCash first started selling. It's a pretty good platform. I've seen people communicate in the chat room and coordinate some pumps of some coins on there and make a good profit. Just remember there is a dump coming, and it is very very risky, so be prepared to lose money if you participate. A pump and dump is like a game of hot potato, who gets holding coins at the end get burned.

Pump & dump groups just take advantage of fools who believe in them don't be a fool

Now the crypto market is no longer a new market, and it is not easy when the world's billionaires start encroaching on the crypto market! Because this simple billionaire in the crypto market is created at the fastest speed in the world! and more in this 4.0 technology era !!!
A typical security expert
John McAfee, who ran the US presidential election, went deep into the crypto market! And most of all, based on his experience, a lot of the coin he's been paying attention to, and the price increase based on his technology is completely normal!
So, in my opinion,
John McAfee does not have a pump and dump, but here's just the verification and testing of the technology and the practicality of the application!

Dont get attempted by the manipulation that group is offering. They are using newbie's and unknowledge people to their interest - getting money from you.

As far as I know there is no such group and wont  be.

The principle is to " catch" hes tweet about the new best coin of the week and then buy quickly.
But in reality it only works with bots, it is not possible to react fast enough to make a profit.

You're off your rocker, he has NO crypto Tech at all! He is nothing but a shill and P&D'r. He was a coder that sold his AV in the early 90's and has been a hustler since that has done nothing but start businesses that failed.

Try doing some research dummkopf.

Not allways

https://t.me/PUMP_HODLers

I get mixed signals about John McAfee. His reviews of ICOs are of any good or he is just doing some positive reviews to get some money, not caring at all about if the ICO truly has potential?

If anyone has the time I would love to see a list of all the coins he's mentioned to pump and what one of those actually held their original value or are up after those dumpers are done. Say like a week later?

Is there any such list?

I believe that all Pump & Dump Groups are made only with the presumption to make money to their creators. I don't know anybody that has been participating in such a group and have been happy about it.
John McAfee's group is no different. And you are definitely right about his actions and reasons.

i need someone to educate me about or the tricks behind em pump and dumb

Do not trust such things.
Numbered people win. The majority is losing.
Be careful and do not trust.
Investigate yourself and decide for yourself.

Ushering a new Era of pumps. We have seen countless of failed pump groups and we believe that we got a good formula and great team to make our members some money. https://t.me/GoldenTicketPumps
*Reminder*
Only pump with the extra money you have. As with most things in this world, pumps have a certain degree of risk.

Don't do it. at least you can simply  lose money since all pump'n'dump information is heavily manipulated.
Moreover, you can simply be banned from almost any big exchange: they do not allow any pump'n'dump trading patterns.

/thread

Yes, do not join such groups, these are scammers and manipulators, in the end you will simply lose money. You need to think with your head and do not fall for someone else's opinion. You yourself need to analyze the project and make a decision about investing.

I can only confirm this truth. These people simply manipulate someone else's opinion for their own purposes. Someone who follows their advice will necessarily receive a loss. You need to be more sensible in choosing a project for investment.

It's like another place where it's easy to lose your money. Participants of such groups always lose their money, I do not advise participating in this. It is better to make your informed choice when investing.

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I think john mcafee is very influential in the world of crypto, whether it is a positive or negative influence, but we should use this to make a profit, buy any coin that is supported by john mcafee

Last time i see pump dump group only in fairpump with their free info, and from what i see a lot of people loss in short time because can't sell coins that they already buy in high price. maybe it is good to stay away from something like that

I think this will only work for you if you already have the coin or you're a very fast finger, else you might end up losing your money and your coins maybe. Be careful when following a pump and dump group because it's always in their favor and the followers in most cases end up being a looser. Better still look for good projects with profitability potentials and invest your money.

You dont need to join his group, John macAfee is a whale in crypto and its true that he and his group can manipulate the prices in the market. i suggest that you should make your own decisions in making some trade because if you keep following his steps maybe you will be caught in middle of the market and he will leave you crying for your loss.

Maybe you will feel much better for yourself if you learn how to independently find powerful projects, research and support them, and earn good money together. Sorry for my tediousness Smiley

John McCaffy just gaining fame due to the crypto currency. I think all this only in order to become a prizendentom of the United States or something more. I do not advise anyone to join his group.

the John Mcafee has been seen as a strong force in the crypto world, his endorsed projects have taken over space of crypto and made things accelerate with the speed of light talking about fund raising events as it relates to ICO

You can join this group https://discord.gg/fm3tyYW. It's pretty active. One pump in a week. Last couple was on Vibe and NAV on binance

All these groups look for fools who trust in these fairy tales. In such groups only their creator gets profit and all others will be at a loss

I did not even know that there is such a group, but we are not likely to be accepted by simple workers. After all, when he then gave his predictions to the Twitter account there was a huge number of subscribers who believed every word of it. Wherever the market turns, no one can predict whether it just gives people their thoughts. He back in June predicted a huge increase but such as we know was not so believes or does not believe the lesson of each investor.

PnD groups have a bad press.  They do some good to the market.  Not all coins of course.  The group effect is good, but let's not kid ourselves that every single person involved is out for personal gain!

I sat and watched one of the biggest groups for their first pump on VIBE via Binance.  It looked like it went well,
I joined the next pump and made the following:

http://imgur.com/tfIwlDu.png [edit: img tags dont work?]

Of course there will be winners and losers.

Next pump is this Saturday, join the discord here

https://discord.gg/dsb5sGw

I don't take what he says serious, he manipulate noobs to earn huge cash for himself, i have distance myself with anything that involves pump and dump, anyway success with your search for his pnp group.