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Title: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on January 02, 2018, 09:25:59 AM
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THE LAST SIMILAR SCAM HE PULLED WAS ZETH.

ALSO TRYING TO COMBINE Z-Snarks with ETH.

WAS ALSO RELUCTANT TO SHARE HIS "CODE" BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO PROTECT It.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0)

THIS IS A FUCKING SCAM.

READ FOR YOURSELVES.



https://i.imgflip.com/220629.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/220629) (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)




DAVE WILKINSON IS BACK AND SCAMMING NOOBS.

DON'T LET HIM GET AWAY WITH YOUR MONEY.



Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on January 02, 2018, 09:28:44 AM
bump for visibility.



Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on January 02, 2018, 09:32:14 AM
THIS IS A SIMILAR SCAM TO ZETH.

DO NOT SEND THIS ASSHOLE ANY FUCKING DONATIONS.

YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MONEY.



Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CyraxMax on January 02, 2018, 09:35:58 AM
It's Wild Wild West here on bitcointalk.
This forum should offer some kind of protection against scams like this.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on January 02, 2018, 09:37:48 AM
Members should look out for each other and not let assholes like Dave profit.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CyraxMax on January 02, 2018, 09:44:16 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2581762

Posts are being deleted from the thread.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on January 02, 2018, 09:48:47 AM
Do your Own Research People.

Moderated Thread.

Deleted Posts.

Same Bullshit like ZETH.

Asking for Donations .

Refusal to show any code.

He's selling you a fucking dream and counting on your greed to con you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1878038.40 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1878038.40)

He did the Zion Scam and Mentrio and countless others.

DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE BLINDLY SENDING DONATIONS.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: kamiyama on January 02, 2018, 09:55:12 AM
Where's the truth y'all? (I don't know)


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on January 02, 2018, 10:02:40 AM
Where's the truth y'all? (I don't know)

Do your own research and assess the evidence.

Clemahieu, the developer of Raiblocks worked for years without asking a single satoshi.

https://github.com/clemahieu (https://github.com/clemahieu)

https://github.com/clemahieu/raiblocks (https://github.com/clemahieu/raiblocks)


He didn't hide behind the excuse of my tech is too revolutionary to share the code.

Now do as you wish.

I've done my best to warn you that this is a scam.

And if it's not, then I will be the first to admit I was wrong and eat humble pie.

But It it walks like Dave Wilkinson, If It talks like Dave Wilkinson, then it's a bloody scam.



Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: fribroon1 on January 02, 2018, 10:07:21 AM
So... now my reply was deleted from Stone thread.
I want to attach a printscreen but I don't know how to do it (how to attach a .jpg).
Please help me because it is an improtant info that I want to share.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CyraxMax on January 02, 2018, 10:09:42 AM
So... now my reply was deleted from Stone thread.
I want to attach a printscreen but I don't know how to do it (how to attach a .jpg).
Please help me because it is an improtant info that I want to share.

go to any share image websites (eg https://imgbb.com/)
upload the image
copy the link
in your post, press the insert image button and paste the link between the img /img tags


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CyraxMax on January 02, 2018, 10:16:42 AM
The scammer disabled my ability to make new posts on that thread.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CyraxMax on January 02, 2018, 10:17:53 AM
He also deleted my reply I gave to user jen729w which its clearly a sock puppet account of his.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CyraxMax on January 02, 2018, 10:21:11 AM
An Error Has Occurred!
This topic is locked, you are not allowed to post or modify messages...


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: fribroon1 on January 02, 2018, 10:22:54 AM
So... now my reply was deleted from Stone thread.
I want to attach a printscreen but I don't know how to do it (how to attach a .jpg).
Please help me because it is an improtant info that I want to share.

go to any share image websites (eg https://imgbb.com/)
upload the image
copy the link
in your post, press the insert image button and paste the link between the img /img tags

OK, here it is
https://ibb.co/bVdT4w


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: fennyllywof-7700 on January 02, 2018, 10:28:36 AM
This is typical of Dave Wilkinson the scammer.

Why do you think the thread is moderated in the first place?

Check out the ZETH thread.

He did the same.

Also, you will find a number of newbie accounts always defending him.

Stay sharp people.



Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CyraxMax on January 02, 2018, 02:57:29 PM
He has at least a dozen of sock puppet noob accounts that defend him and post positive things about the "project"


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: monsanto on January 02, 2018, 04:08:22 PM
Where's the truth y'all? (I don't know)

I posted in that thread because I was looking to learn more about DAG & zkSNARKs. Seems like many don't even think that's technically feasible. As you said, "Where's the truth".. I don't know, but there are definitely warning signs. Unfortunately, because the vast majority of projects are scams, IMO the best approach is to assume every project is a scam. Assume any "investment" is likely to be lost, and try to learn something along the way. Then you'll be pleasantly surprised when something turns out to be legit.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Thadoneere on January 02, 2018, 04:10:37 PM
How it works, you know that it's a scam and you really want to help people?


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on January 02, 2018, 04:51:51 PM
All the evidence points to it being a scam.

Now if you refuse to see what's there, then by all means, donate away to your heart's content.

But just remember that you were warned and that you let your greed get the better of you.

I also noticed that Dave has locked the Stone thread but by some Miracle, there are some posts from noob accounts that are all singing the praises of his "project"

They must have great timing to be all posting the very second he "unlocks" the thread.

BTW, there's another thread now called PAPER: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2675475.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2675475.0)

If you have money to lose, be my guest.



Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: p3ngu1n on January 02, 2018, 11:50:41 PM
The current cryptocurrency has too much fraud.
Everyone should be careful.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on January 03, 2018, 12:59:04 AM
bump


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on January 03, 2018, 01:05:47 AM
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THE ORIGINAL RAIBLOCKS DEVELOPER CODED FOR YEARS WITHOUT ASKING FOR DONATIONS.

ALL HIS CODE WAS ON GITHUB.

WHERE IS THIS BEGGING FAGGOT'S CODE?

HE HAS NO FUCKING CODE.

HE IS BULLSHITTING YOU JUST LIKE HE DID WITH ZETH

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0)

^^^ SAME BULLSHIT HE PROMISED TO DO WITH ETH

THIS IS DAVE WILKINSON THE SCAMMER.

DO NOT GET CONNED!!!


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: GYelis on January 03, 2018, 01:23:36 AM
well people were crying there it was scam,but some gullible people still went ahead and donated to the scammer,threads asking for donations or including a bitcoin or any Altcoin wallet requesting donations should be banned in the forum or at least require permission before doing so,donations should be allowed only to legitimate proven projects,every body here should complain to the forum moderator about this type of scams and ask them to require permission for donation request


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: AnCapFree on January 03, 2018, 01:55:18 AM
really thank you for notif us this information. many newbie dont know anything and keep do anything people said in this forum


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: tech72 on January 03, 2018, 06:02:18 PM
Man, that's sad.
Since the project look promising.

I feel bad for the people that invest into it.

And yep looks like he's the same person (i hope he wont edit or delete the post, lol, or another 101% meaning he's same person).

Both love SHIFT, with typical style of typing with lower capital.

@BENBTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg17938522#msg17938522
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg17949548#msg17949548

@felixando
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg17787366#msg17787366
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg17778160#msg17778160
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg17778684#msg17778684


May god bless you bro. Because karma's is a bitch. And the curse is real. You maybe will get easy money from cheating people.
But you not gonna get a good life. Lots of trouble will come in you life like cancer, relationship issue, health problem, mental issue etc. sorry for random typing lol.





Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on January 04, 2018, 05:59:03 AM
bump for visibility


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: tech72 on January 04, 2018, 09:30:45 PM
He's now accept monero.

No code.

No whitepaper.

Zero update.

Nothing.

And people already giving him $100K+

 ??? ??? ??? ???

Is this for real?


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: KryptoQuant on January 09, 2018, 04:12:53 PM
I confirm this is scam, i tried to challenge his skills in DAG and he deleted my post.

I'll try to find my deleted post to add it there.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: German Klimenko on January 10, 2018, 01:12:06 PM
It is hard to understand what is really scam and what is just FUD. I remember it was scam alrerts on DeepOnion or Worldcore and I see how much profit have gain the people who invest money and time to this "scam projects"


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: KryptoQuant on January 10, 2018, 04:08:36 PM
It is hard to understand what is really scam and what is just FUD. I remember it was scam alrerts on DeepOnion or Worldcore and I see how much profit have gain the people who invest money and time to this "scam projects"

Here is the proof:

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Hi Stone supporters, apologies for the variance in communication over the last two days, a little technical insight into what stage right now, and what is currently filling my time.


https://i.imgur.com/eG6RWdn.png    https://i.imgur.com/IWXBH9V.png
                 A DAG G                                         Transitive reduction of G


If G is a DAG, its transitive closure is the graph with the most edges that represents the same reachability relation. It has an edge u → v whenever u can reach v. That is, it has an edge for every related pair u ≤ v of distinct elements in the reachability relation of G, and may therefore be thought of as a direct translation of the reachability relation ≤ into graph-theoretic terms. The same method of translating partial orders into DAGs works more generally: for every finite partially ordered set (S, ≤), the graph that has a vertex for each member of S and an edge for each pair of elements related by u ≤ v is automatically a transitively closed DAG, and has (S, ≤) as its reachability relation. In this way, every finite partially ordered set can be represented as the reachability relation of a DAG.


The transitive reduction of a DAG G is the graph with the fewest edges that represents the same reachability relation as G. It is a subgraph of G, formed by discarding the edges u → v for which G also contains a longer path connecting the same two vertices. Like the transitive closure, the transitive reduction is uniquely defined for DAGs. In contrast, for a directed graph that is not acyclic, there can be more than one minimal subgraph with the same reachability relation.

With the 'Transitive reduction of G' it will bring some sense of privacy ontop of zk-SNARK's, which effectively will make it more secure than ZCash  8)


Whilst i don't want to make any promises right now, i'm looking at getting another developer onboard, with the development funds provided, to get the project completed quicker, as its proving to be quite the task and larger than originally expected, are we all happy for this to go ahead? I'm also looking to get a roadmap out the door at some stage!, possibly within the next two weeks, i have quite the treat prepared in terms of a roadmap, just need to get it projected onto a graphic.


I appreciate all the donators so far, and i will be responding to PM's when i can, i will just need a little longer than usual, thank you.




felixando


I'm "specialized" in DAG and here is just a copy and paste from wikipedia. .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitive_reduction

I participated in writing this Wikipedia page and transitive reduction has nothing to do with privacy.

I don't know whether the project is a scam or not but it's clearly very poorly documented and i'm not even sure you understand what DAG and the math behind are.

If you are legit, and just need help to understand stuff, then you can contact me.



So you copy-paste random things from Wikipedia, you make conclusion which are no sense, you get challenged, and you just delete the post instead of explaning how it will work.

That's a SCAM 100% sure !!!!


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Yeuph on January 10, 2018, 10:34:25 PM
Well it's pretty obvious I'm new - In fact I only made my account to donate to the project (You will find my name on the list @ 15XRB - which is a highly "loseable" amount for me regardless of what does or does happen.)

I asked him after I sent my transaction if he needed "or even wanted more money" for something to ask and he replied and I'm quoting "Nah man, just your support on the project."

You guys have a fair amount of evidence (some of it pretty fucking strong) and all of you have been around this block longer than I have but I do have to say that the "scammer" turning down more free money gives me hope.

So like I said - regardless of what happens that 15 XRB won't make or break me.  He seems like a pretty cool dude in PMs - turning down more money.  I'll keep my fingers crossed and hold out some measure of hope that it's a real project being done by a good person.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: kamiyama on January 10, 2018, 10:42:52 PM
@KryptoQuant

That is useful information for me.Thank you for sharing.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: JoinCoins on January 10, 2018, 10:50:10 PM
thanks for warning, so do you mean this thread too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2581762.0 ??
Is that a scam? I was pretty excited about now I'm confused


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CyraxMax on January 11, 2018, 08:16:03 AM
Well it's pretty obvious I'm new - In fact I only made my account to donate to the project (You will find my name on the list @ 15XRB - which is a highly "loseable" amount for me regardless of what does or does happen.)

I asked him after I sent my transaction if he needed "or even wanted more money" for something to ask and he replied and I'm quoting "Nah man, just your support on the project."

You guys have a fair amount of evidence (some of it pretty fucking strong) and all of you have been around this block longer than I have but I do have to say that the "scammer" turning down more free money gives me hope.

So like I said - regardless of what happens that 15 XRB won't make or break me.  He seems like a pretty cool dude in PMs - turning down more money.  I'll keep my fingers crossed and hold out some measure of hope that it's a real project being done by a good person.


Noob accounts defending the scammer. Warning sign.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CyraxMax on January 11, 2018, 08:21:11 AM
There's another thread exactly like Stone scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2696095.0

[PRE-ANN] Manta - DAG & zkSNARKs - Fast, Fee-less, Private Cryptocurrency

The premise its the same, the "Dev" its asking for donations.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Yeuph on January 11, 2018, 11:14:03 PM
Well it's pretty obvious I'm new - In fact I only made my account to donate to the project (You will find my name on the list @ 15XRB - which is a highly "loseable" amount for me regardless of what does or does happen.)

I asked him after I sent my transaction if he needed "or even wanted more money" for something to ask and he replied and I'm quoting "Nah man, just your support on the project."

You guys have a fair amount of evidence (some of it pretty fucking strong) and all of you have been around this block longer than I have but I do have to say that the "scammer" turning down more free money gives me hope.

So like I said - regardless of what happens that 15 XRB won't make or break me.  He seems like a pretty cool dude in PMs - turning down more money.  I'll keep my fingers crossed and hold out some measure of hope that it's a real project being done by a good person.


Noob accounts defending the scammer. Warning sign.

Man check my fucking Reddit history under this name.  I didn't defend anyone - All I did were report facts based around my experience with what was going on.

If you are calling factual reporting of "Scammers refusing extra money" I believe that would fall very squarely into the FUD category.

"Oh damn this noob asked if the guy wanted more money and he said he didn't!!!  WARNING SIGNS GUYS ITS A FUCKING SCAM."

Grow the fuck up.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: holdhodl on January 12, 2018, 04:55:51 AM
lets sit back and watch the show its clear that this community cares about watching out for each other but everything is still new and we really cant rule out that its a scam yet but i do hope it isnt lol ...


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on January 12, 2018, 06:47:06 AM
Why this felixando is a "Copper Member" in Bitcointalk? What means?


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on January 12, 2018, 06:48:59 AM
There's another thread exactly like Stone scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2696095.0

[PRE-ANN] Manta - DAG & zkSNARKs - Fast, Fee-less, Private Cryptocurrency

The premise its the same, the "Dev" its asking for donations.

This look like be the same person that make another thread with the same "idea".


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CyraxMax on January 12, 2018, 08:20:46 AM
Well it's pretty obvious I'm new - In fact I only made my account to donate to the project (You will find my name on the list @ 15XRB - which is a highly "loseable" amount for me regardless of what does or does happen.)

I asked him after I sent my transaction if he needed "or even wanted more money" for something to ask and he replied and I'm quoting "Nah man, just your support on the project."

You guys have a fair amount of evidence (some of it pretty fucking strong) and all of you have been around this block longer than I have but I do have to say that the "scammer" turning down more free money gives me hope.

So like I said - regardless of what happens that 15 XRB won't make or break me.  He seems like a pretty cool dude in PMs - turning down more money.  I'll keep my fingers crossed and hold out some measure of hope that it's a real project being done by a good person.


Noob accounts defending the scammer. Warning sign.

Man check my fucking Reddit history under this name.  I didn't defend anyone - All I did were report facts based around my experience with what was going on.

If you are calling factual reporting of "Scammers refusing extra money" I believe that would fall very squarely into the FUD category.

"Oh damn this noob asked if the guy wanted more money and he said he didn't!!!  WARNING SIGNS GUYS ITS A FUCKING SCAM."

Grow the fuck up.

You are the scammer. This is a scam.
Read the post above you. He copy pasted text from wikipedia. Word by word, to "explain" his implementation.
When this has been addressed by the community, he deleted the accusatory posts.
So I don't believe shit of what you are saying that he refused money. You are the scammer using this account.
The reddit account with the same name, there is no way we would know that it is you. Can be very easily somebody else and you just took that name for extra credibility.
Use common sense people. This scammer would do anything to squeeze as much money as he can.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: koinli on January 12, 2018, 08:25:07 AM
thank you for this scam alert

once, i was a ZETH aggrieved, be aware from Scams folks,


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CyraxMax on January 12, 2018, 09:49:40 AM
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I urge all to read this thread, before considering sending donations for this project.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2677524.0

Posts being deleted from the Manta thread as well.
Same MO.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: EternalPropagation on January 12, 2018, 05:52:28 PM
well people were crying there it was scam,but some gullible people still went ahead and donated to the scammer,threads asking for donations or including a bitcoin or any Altcoin wallet requesting donations should be banned in the forum or at least require permission before doing so,donations should be allowed only to legitimate proven projects,every body here should complain to the forum moderator about this type of scams and ask them to require permission for donation request

"I don't trust your ability to decide what to spend money on so I want to decide for you" the post

It's Wild Wild West here on bitcointalk.
This forum should offer some kind of protection against scams like this.

Ah the old security is more important than freedom argument. Thought I'd see that one.

Members should look out for each other and not let assholes like Dave profit.

This. Have some agency.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: KryptoQuant on January 12, 2018, 07:02:54 PM
@KryptoQuant

That is useful information for me.Thank you for sharing.

You are welcome,
Thanks to bitpotus for starting this thread.

I'm currently working on adding this privacy feature, to be honest as a hobby in the evening as i still have my daily job. I have found a very interesting approach which would  misrepresent the current XRB approach. I have to work harder to keep the philosophy of the XRB, having free and instant anonymous transaction would be amazing.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Neo Baudrillard on January 12, 2018, 10:43:28 PM
Why this felixando is a "Copper Member" in Bitcointalk? What means?

Why this guy have status of "Copper Member" in Bitcointalk?


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Yeuph on January 13, 2018, 07:37:11 AM
Well it's pretty obvious I'm new - In fact I only made my account to donate to the project (You will find my name on the list @ 15XRB - which is a highly "loseable" amount for me regardless of what does or does happen.)

I asked him after I sent my transaction if he needed "or even wanted more money" for something to ask and he replied and I'm quoting "Nah man, just your support on the project."

You guys have a fair amount of evidence (some of it pretty fucking strong) and all of you have been around this block longer than I have but I do have to say that the "scammer" turning down more free money gives me hope.

So like I said - regardless of what happens that 15 XRB won't make or break me.  He seems like a pretty cool dude in PMs - turning down more money.  I'll keep my fingers crossed and hold out some measure of hope that it's a real project being done by a good person.


Noob accounts defending the scammer. Warning sign.

Man check my fucking Reddit history under this name.  I didn't defend anyone - All I did were report facts based around my experience with what was going on.

If you are calling factual reporting of "Scammers refusing extra money" I believe that would fall very squarely into the FUD category.

"Oh damn this noob asked if the guy wanted more money and he said he didn't!!!  WARNING SIGNS GUYS ITS A FUCKING SCAM."

Grow the fuck up.

You are the scammer. This is a scam.
Read the post above you. He copy pasted text from wikipedia. Word by word, to "explain" his implementation.
When this has been addressed by the community, he deleted the accusatory posts.
So I don't believe shit of what you are saying that he refused money. You are the scammer using this account.
The reddit account with the same name, there is no way we would know that it is you. Can be very easily somebody else and you just took that name for extra credibility.
Use common sense people. This scammer would do anything to squeeze as much money as he can.

I genuinely feel much better about my investment after being called the scammer lol.  If your analytical abilities have lead you to that conclusion I think we may be in the clear here =)

And no I didn't read the fucking thread above me.  I'm a fucking bricklayer and don't have the technical education to understand any of what is being said or argued.  Yes I understand what copy/paste means but I couldn't know if that was an acceptable thing to do or not.  The guy said had nothing to do with privacy so why would he copy paste it (or something similar) - How the fuck can I agree or disagree with that statement?  I'm a fucking bricklayer dude.

Edit:  I would imagine that a lot of the people here are educated/went to college?  You can't tell me that you guys can't get a hold of a speech analyst to A) analyze the writing of felixando and compare it with this old scammer you keep talking about and B) compare his writing with mine.

When I first saw this "Stone is a scam thread" I felt heartbroken - I felt like I lost my 15 XRB.  In reality the longer this goes on the better I feel about the project and the more apt to defend the lead dev I am becoming.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Wolf Rainer on January 15, 2018, 09:26:12 AM
He already recieved almost 400,000 USD in donations, and theres not even a website or a whiterpaper. Also a lot of new accounts supporting and spamming the thread. Obvious scam is obvious.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Thinvestor on January 16, 2018, 10:07:01 PM
He already recieved almost 400,000 USD in donations, and theres not even a website or a whiterpaper. Also a lot of new accounts supporting and spamming the thread. Obvious scam is obvious.

$400,000 with a single piece of code? Holy christ (just reposting this so people see its a scam)


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: fennyllywof-7700 on January 18, 2018, 09:03:38 AM
bump since the main scam thread is being advertised again


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Kencha77 on January 18, 2018, 10:00:42 AM
He already recieved almost 400,000 USD in donations, and theres not even a website or a whiterpaper. Also a lot of new accounts supporting and spamming the thread. Obvious scam is obvious.

I am still waiting for the code before even try to donate there and a feedback video from the people who able to join the testnet. I'll just try to follow this thread also to see both sides


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: fennyllywof-7700 on January 18, 2018, 11:09:46 AM
He already recieved almost 400,000 USD in donations, and theres not even a website or a whiterpaper. Also a lot of new accounts supporting and spamming the thread. Obvious scam is obvious.

I am still waiting for the code before even try to donate there and a feedback video from the people who able to join the testnet. I'll just try to follow this thread also to see both sides

it is a scam.

idiots like you who let their greed get the better of them are the reason why Dave Wilkinson is able to scam.

 ::)


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: yaroslavskoll on January 19, 2018, 10:36:09 AM
i think that This forum should offer some kind of protection against scams like this.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: cryptosheeple on January 19, 2018, 11:28:17 AM
He already recieved almost 400,000 USD in donations, and theres not even a website or a whiterpaper. Also a lot of new accounts supporting and spamming the thread. Obvious scam is obvious.

$400,000 with a single piece of code? Holy christ (just reposting this so people see its a scam)

What code? lol. I can't believe people donated...  ???


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: CapFuture on January 21, 2018, 10:58:29 AM
Its a shame he actually got ppl to donate their money.
I would never invest in any idea without anything behind.
But ppl are greedy wanna be the first to receive coins for the soon to moon project.

This guy felix whatever will be punished by the universe.
The money will never make  him happy.
👍🙏


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: cjcrypt on February 01, 2018, 02:20:37 AM
is this the coin your talking about ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2799957.0


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: TheHas on February 01, 2018, 02:55:55 AM
Make your own assessment, however I will confirm that the starter of the stone thread removed my post questioning the coin and 'donations', instead of answering my question :)


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: sahimsabaubaba on February 08, 2018, 04:09:53 AM
wait wait i'm late to the game. so how did you guys figure out that BENBTC == felixando == Dave Wilkinson? Did you check the IP or something?


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: innovatethespace on February 20, 2018, 02:48:04 AM
Definitely a SCAM. I tried contacting him because I am working on a project using DAG but he never replied. Even deleted my posts from the STONE thread.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Malek17 on February 20, 2018, 02:56:03 AM
Stone is a confirmed Scam,if you criticize the guy there he will ban you very fast not wonder,only a stupid person would donate to this guy.
any Experienced Devs here may be we can launch a real project community driven to fork rail block and name it stone.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: pedagang1 on February 20, 2018, 03:12:33 AM
Yes we should indeed be more careful of these acts really raging to want to harm others, we should be more careful in choosing or accept the risks that will be accepted


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: smitherma on February 25, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
SCAM alert !!!      Petro (PTR) website Zero security
 

New SCAM demostration with toolkit in github

in            https://twitter.com/fuck_petro          you can found the video proof and the Github Toolkit


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on March 14, 2018, 05:17:13 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Id0a2Mq.png

And the stone scam is now complete.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2581762.msg32186670#msg32186670


As usual Dave has come up with some bullshit excuse and now moved on to a new scam, namely DarkNano

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2959308.0


STOP GIVING THIS SCAMMER YOUR CRYPTO!!!


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Chigon on March 14, 2018, 07:12:01 PM
The good news is that the longer he stays active with each of these scams the more mistakes and evidence there will be for the charges against him. Has anyone started to investigate?


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Chigon on March 14, 2018, 07:16:53 PM
He also deleted one of my posts to the stone thread:

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Quote
Quote from: NDJC on March 12, 2018, 07:59:58 AM
Are any of the other investors interesting in forming a group to track down the perpetrator of this fraud? Ideally I want to gather as much information as possible, Trace funds and identity. All information will then be passed to the relevant countries authority. Hopefully we can apply some pressure and make life less than easy for him. If you are interested in pooling resources, information or support on this scam or of any of his previous scams then please feel free to pm me. Some areas to work on:

Filing suits.
IP logs.
fund tracing.
Evidence compiling.

I'm obviously no kind of detective, so any help and guidance is welcome. Also any current information or tip offs also greatly welcome.

Sounds like a great idea to me!  Cheesy Maybe bitcointalk could assist?


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Mercury06 on March 15, 2018, 09:21:31 AM
Is there anyone who tracks the money of scamer ?


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Praedium on March 18, 2018, 04:19:24 PM
I think we should all take this as a learning experience and let it go.  If the project was legit we probably would have all made a lot of money, but seeing that we most likely were scammed we need to just accept our losses and spend our energy on more useful things.  Don't let scammers steal any more of your time.


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: BitPotus on March 19, 2018, 04:01:22 AM
I think we should all take this as a learning experience and let it go.  If the project was legit we probably would have all made a lot of money, but seeing that we most likely were scammed we need to just accept our losses and spend our energy on more useful things.  Don't let scammers steal any more of your time.

People like you are the reason why scammers like Dave keep stealing from noobs.

 ::)


Title: Re: SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK
Post by: Chigon on March 19, 2018, 11:15:20 PM
I think we should all take this as a learning experience and let it go.  If the project was legit we probably would have all made a lot of money, but seeing that we most likely were scammed we need to just accept our losses and spend our energy on more useful things.  Don't let scammers steal any more of your time.

I like that you frame this as a financial loss but I really see scams like this more as a personal insult and and insult to the community  :D. Governments are getting more interested in regulation - and a little bit of investigation here could give them an easy win. It might not take a lot of our time to 'steal' quite a bit of his.