SCAM ALERT- STONE RAIBLOCKS PRIVACY FORK

[p3ngu1n]

The current cryptocurrency has too much fraud.
Everyone should be careful.

[BitPotus]

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[BitPotus]

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THE ORIGINAL RAIBLOCKS DEVELOPER CODED FOR YEARS WITHOUT ASKING FOR DONATIONS.

ALL HIS CODE WAS ON GITHUB.

WHERE IS THIS BEGGING FAGGOT'S CODE?

HE HAS NO FUCKING CODE.

HE IS BULLSHITTING YOU JUST LIKE HE DID WITH ZETH

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0

^^^ SAME BULLSHIT HE PROMISED TO DO WITH ETH

THIS IS DAVE WILKINSON THE SCAMMER.

DO NOT GET CONNED!!!

[GYelis]

well people were crying there it was scam,but some gullible people still went ahead and donated to the scammer,threads asking for donations or including a bitcoin or any Altcoin wallet requesting donations should be banned in the forum or at least require permission before doing so,donations should be allowed only to legitimate proven projects,every body here should complain to the forum moderator about this type of scams and ask them to require permission for donation request

[AnCapFree]

really thank you for notif us this information. many newbie dont know anything and keep do anything people said in this forum

[tech72]

Man, that's sad.
Since the project look promising.

I feel bad for the people that invest into it.

And yep looks like he's the same person (i hope he wont edit or delete the post, lol, or another 101% meaning he's same person).

Both love SHIFT, with typical style of typing with lower capital.

@BENBTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg17938522#msg17938522
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg17949548#msg17949548

@felixando
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg17787366#msg17787366
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg17778160#msg17778160
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg17778684#msg17778684


May god bless you bro. Because karma's is a bitch. And the curse is real. You maybe will get easy money from cheating people.
But you not gonna get a good life. Lots of trouble will come in you life like cancer, relationship issue, health problem, mental issue etc. sorry for random typing lol.

[BitPotus]

bump for visibility

[tech72]

He's now accept monero.

No code.

No whitepaper.

Zero update.

Nothing.

And people already giving him $100K+

 

Is this for real?

[KryptoQuant]

I confirm this is scam, i tried to challenge his skills in DAG and he deleted my post.

I'll try to find my deleted post to add it there.

[German Klimenko]

It is hard to understand what is really scam and what is just FUD. I remember it was scam alrerts on DeepOnion or Worldcore and I see how much profit have gain the people who invest money and time to this "scam projects"

[KryptoQuant]

It is hard to understand what is really scam and what is just FUD. I remember it was scam alrerts on DeepOnion or Worldcore and I see how much profit have gain the people who invest money and time to this "scam projects"

Here is the proof:

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Hi Stone supporters, apologies for the variance in communication over the last two days, a little technical insight into what stage right now, and what is currently filling my time.


https://i.imgur.com/eG6RWdn.png    https://i.imgur.com/IWXBH9V.png
                 A DAG G                                         Transitive reduction of G


If G is a DAG, its transitive closure is the graph with the most edges that represents the same reachability relation. It has an edge u → v whenever u can reach v. That is, it has an edge for every related pair u ≤ v of distinct elements in the reachability relation of G, and may therefore be thought of as a direct translation of the reachability relation ≤ into graph-theoretic terms. The same method of translating partial orders into DAGs works more generally: for every finite partially ordered set (S, ≤), the graph that has a vertex for each member of S and an edge for each pair of elements related by u ≤ v is automatically a transitively closed DAG, and has (S, ≤) as its reachability relation. In this way, every finite partially ordered set can be represented as the reachability relation of a DAG.


The transitive reduction of a DAG G is the graph with the fewest edges that represents the same reachability relation as G. It is a subgraph of G, formed by discarding the edges u → v for which G also contains a longer path connecting the same two vertices. Like the transitive closure, the transitive reduction is uniquely defined for DAGs. In contrast, for a directed graph that is not acyclic, there can be more than one minimal subgraph with the same reachability relation.

With the 'Transitive reduction of G' it will bring some sense of privacy ontop of zk-SNARK's, which effectively will make it more secure than ZCash 


Whilst i don't want to make any promises right now, i'm looking at getting another developer onboard, with the development funds provided, to get the project completed quicker, as its proving to be quite the task and larger than originally expected, are we all happy for this to go ahead? I'm also looking to get a roadmap out the door at some stage!, possibly within the next two weeks, i have quite the treat prepared in terms of a roadmap, just need to get it projected onto a graphic.


I appreciate all the donators so far, and i will be responding to PM's when i can, i will just need a little longer than usual, thank you.




felixando

I'm "specialized" in DAG and here is just a copy and paste from wikipedia. .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitive_reduction

I participated in writing this Wikipedia page and transitive reduction has nothing to do with privacy.

I don't know whether the project is a scam or not but it's clearly very poorly documented and i'm not even sure you understand what DAG and the math behind are.

If you are legit, and just need help to understand stuff, then you can contact me.

So you copy-paste random things from Wikipedia, you make conclusion which are no sense, you get challenged, and you just delete the post instead of explaning how it will work.

That's a SCAM 100% sure !!!!

[Yeuph]

Well it's pretty obvious I'm new - In fact I only made my account to donate to the project (You will find my name on the list @ 15XRB - which is a highly "loseable" amount for me regardless of what does or does happen.)

I asked him after I sent my transaction if he needed "or even wanted more money" for something to ask and he replied and I'm quoting "Nah man, just your support on the project."

You guys have a fair amount of evidence (some of it pretty fucking strong) and all of you have been around this block longer than I have but I do have to say that the "scammer" turning down more free money gives me hope.

So like I said - regardless of what happens that 15 XRB won't make or break me.  He seems like a pretty cool dude in PMs - turning down more money.  I'll keep my fingers crossed and hold out some measure of hope that it's a real project being done by a good person.

[kamiyama]

@KryptoQuant

That is useful information for me.Thank you for sharing.

[JoinCoins]

thanks for warning, so do you mean this thread too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2581762.0 ??
Is that a scam? I was pretty excited about now I'm confused

[CyraxMax]

Well it's pretty obvious I'm new - In fact I only made my account to donate to the project (You will find my name on the list @ 15XRB - which is a highly "loseable" amount for me regardless of what does or does happen.)

I asked him after I sent my transaction if he needed "or even wanted more money" for something to ask and he replied and I'm quoting "Nah man, just your support on the project."

You guys have a fair amount of evidence (some of it pretty fucking strong) and all of you have been around this block longer than I have but I do have to say that the "scammer" turning down more free money gives me hope.

So like I said - regardless of what happens that 15 XRB won't make or break me.  He seems like a pretty cool dude in PMs - turning down more money.  I'll keep my fingers crossed and hold out some measure of hope that it's a real project being done by a good person.

Noob accounts defending the scammer. Warning sign.

[CyraxMax]

There's another thread exactly like Stone scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2696095.0

[PRE-ANN] Manta - DAG & zkSNARKs - Fast, Fee-less, Private Cryptocurrency

The premise its the same, the "Dev" its asking for donations.

[Yeuph]

Well it's pretty obvious I'm new - In fact I only made my account to donate to the project (You will find my name on the list @ 15XRB - which is a highly "loseable" amount for me regardless of what does or does happen.)

I asked him after I sent my transaction if he needed "or even wanted more money" for something to ask and he replied and I'm quoting "Nah man, just your support on the project."

You guys have a fair amount of evidence (some of it pretty fucking strong) and all of you have been around this block longer than I have but I do have to say that the "scammer" turning down more free money gives me hope.

So like I said - regardless of what happens that 15 XRB won't make or break me.  He seems like a pretty cool dude in PMs - turning down more money.  I'll keep my fingers crossed and hold out some measure of hope that it's a real project being done by a good person.

Noob accounts defending the scammer. Warning sign.

Man check my fucking Reddit history under this name.  I didn't defend anyone - All I did were report facts based around my experience with what was going on.

If you are calling factual reporting of "Scammers refusing extra money" I believe that would fall very squarely into the FUD category.

"Oh damn this noob asked if the guy wanted more money and he said he didn't!!!  WARNING SIGNS GUYS ITS A FUCKING SCAM."

Grow the fuck up.

[holdhodl]

lets sit back and watch the show its clear that this community cares about watching out for each other but everything is still new and we really cant rule out that its a scam yet but i do hope it isnt lol ...

[Neo Baudrillard]

Why this felixando is a "Copper Member" in Bitcointalk? What means?

[Neo Baudrillard]

There's another thread exactly like Stone scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2696095.0

[PRE-ANN] Manta - DAG & zkSNARKs - Fast, Fee-less, Private Cryptocurrency

The premise its the same, the "Dev" its asking for donations.

This look like be the same person that make another thread with the same "idea".