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Is it just me or do you also see that ICO prices are starting to get ridiculously high (considering most of them don't even have a working product).

Wait.. ico prices? They set their own price, why are you really complaining about that?

There is an ICO offering their tokens for aproximately $2,40 each one of them, but the total supply of that one is aproximately 20 million to 50 million tokens if i am not wrong (Sether)

The price depends on the supply, that is why you are always seeing tokens with a value of $0,001 and a total supply of more than 10000000000000 of tokens (maybe more)

Whether the price is high or not depends on the goal of the token, also the total supply inclusive. As we know, the total supply of the coin has a relation to marketcap and price. This is the reason that some icos have high prices while others don't. Those ones with relatively low supplies hit the ground running faster.

If they don't have a product than yeah their prices are probably too high but if they have use case, product, and a way to monetize then no there ideas are probably accurate priced. Everything depends on what you are getting into, the actual prices by themselves don't carry much if any weight.

Price is what both the seller and the buyer determine. So if someone buys project tokens even without a product at a high price, then he clearly expects the growth of these tokens in the future. So he thinks the project is promising and worth his money.

You know its very strange for me to read such messages in money world! Its very very very strange! I know expensive ICO price 3$ for coin but as I know we all was are born free and have all of us have right to choose! I saw a lots of ICOs  where price was normal but if this is just a start up almost in more then 50% cases no working product only idea or beta! There is prices for any pockets! Have nice day!

You should calculate again, there's no ICO with high prices. Maybe I have different opinion with you, every ICO has product/ services and you should see it again clearly. Price go high/ low is depend supply and demand and sometimes all price moving because news speculation. Even ICO prices go high, I believe there's opportunity to create income, see again chart price and volume. Nothing to worry about ICO prices, you should worry if you don't find opportunity make money at this moment. Think again and fix your mindset. Thank you so much.

Some ICOs are overpriced yes, but wait , what about bitcoin? Bitcoin is an empty token, not even an ICO, no project or real assets behind it and cost ~14K per fckn coin!!
So maybe ICOs are not so overpriced...

According to your research or estimate, to what is the highest ICO price this year, or maybe ICO is down this year?

I also noticed that some ICO have ridiculously high price and I usually do not bother to buy these kind of ICO as I'm not rich enough to risk my hardly earn money into something that is not certain yet.

ICOs have been mostly overvalued to begin with, so that's nothing new. Investing in startups is already risky as is, even moreso if it comes to the ecosystem that is crypto. Just watch from the sidelines unless you feel like gambling.



What's your definition of a project and real assets, ie. what do ICOs have that BTC doesn't?

Welcome to the year 2018 where the real ICO are getting launched. They are ridiculously high, yes but they know how they working behind the project and how to make it successful. Yes, we still need to checkout which is the right project and could be another hit in the future. Not every project reaches the milestone in the specified timeline and then people get out of it early and make the project look like worse. This destroys the marketing funds, project development funs in the long run and hence now a days ICO plan to catch up more funds from the early investors. Thats why they play in the stakes and limit the minimum amount of ICO price to more costlier package. Seen that many times and may be thats why you thinking the ICO rates are increasing higher.

avsolutly , its depend on supply.

I do not feel ico expensive. I usually buy the ico for $ 1. After the internal exchange the price of each coin ico will be $ 3 ~ $ 5. so the price when I bought ico is 14, too cheap

20-30% of ICO's are legit.. thats tops.

the rest are either money grabs, outright scams or people who just are retarded at business

plenty of retards in the real world.. say 5% of the world has a sub human IQ - that means maybe 2.5% of people here are doomed to fail.

scams - you cant do much about them other than look for key things in whitepapers and websites, bad spelling - just outright laughable ideas..

just do your own research before you spend your own BTC

I agree with you the price ico recently too high. have a new ico. that is BCCX. And the price of a BCCX coin is $ 50.

you need to be looking at market cap instead of price per token.

Depends on the ICO itself, sometimes they have limited token supply and I think their target soft and hard cap has something to do with the price as well. But I think there's still ICO that offers less than a dollar per pop and hope that they can take off once a working product is presented.

That's why investing in ICO right now is like a gamble, you will never know if they are a scam until you really found out at the end that they have already run off with your money.

If you think that some ICO are getting expensive then simply don't put your hard money on it.

I see nothing wrong with current ICO prices because the average price of ICO token is only $0.50 which it can easily double once the ICO is successful. The coins of so many successful ICOs reaches a $1+ in less than a month. So, if you bough the coins at $0.50 you can double your money easily in less than a month.

Yes you can often see how, after the receipt of the coins on the exchange it becomes 2-3 times cheaper than was the price of the ICO, and you realize that too many have lost buying this coin not on an exchange and the team.

For me personally, if they start with high price and unreasonable , I'm better to stay away rather than sorry.
But if you lucky enough, you may earn some profit for investing on random ICO

~Luck 99% , skill 1% , guts ? %

So you can participate in bounty campaigns to make some money with them. If you invest or join in bounty they will you paid the tokens after the token sale alone so working and making the alts would be fine option according to me.
Why i not suggesting the investment on token sale because they may cheat us and ran with the investment you gonna do.

Well, you are not forced to buy at the the ico prices, if in fact the developers of the ico are in fact overvaluing their coins then there is no way they are going to get to their goals, also before a coin hits an exchange there are great possibilities that you can buy it below the ico price from people that are desperate to get fast profits, if the project is any good that is a good chance to save money.

I dont agre with you, cause you don't know the reason why some ico's have high price. its depend on their tokens and project and traffic

Just, dont search ICO by its price, do you think high ICO price will be a great project ? i think you have choosen a wrong way to find a good ICO
choose ICO because its project, look at its roadmap, whitepaper, and look into their social media accounts, did they update daily or not ?

Dont hope ICO price 1$ and after it launch it gonna be 2000-3000% from its price instantly  8)

ICOs that have $3 minimum like LiveEdu, are they scams?

If any ICO project has a future and giving us a new perspective about cyrptos, I can consider it at any price. But for some ICOs,, they're offering their coins at high prices, that is ture.

There's still alot of ICOs that is cheap and have great potential, but there is still ICOs that is a scam and expensive, so check the ICO, background check it before you invest on it, like the new coming ICO Bitconnect X.

Some of expensie Ico’s are worh buying for because it offers a new technology that can really help us in the future but we can’t claim that all cheap Ico are offers poor services it is still depend on people behind the project. We can make our own study about the whole ICO for us to be more safe and not to be scammed, be careful on choosing ico.

you are right, their ICOs sometimes sell their tokens with extremely high, about 4-5$/token, i don't understand why they sell us with that high for a token has no value on the market because the ICOs is not finished. i don't believe how can people say the price is high because of its bright future in real use, but the real value is only happens when their project can actually work in life.

I think projects that know what they are really worth will usually  put a high price tag especially for those with a working product or are backed by a big company, and for those with no product it makes no sense to hike prices as there is risk in this.

recently An ico launched with token price 1$ each token and they have very large supply . if we calculate the total market cap of that token after launch its very high as compare to bitcoins or ethereum, but we all know not all ICo sold token during presale and ICO
that type of icon will surely drop the rates after it launched to exchanchanges like hitbtc and finance. some people say price will up and some say go down. its just depend on which type of project they offer

Well i only like capped ico's. But i see no problem with prices to high , they are worth what people are paying for it. If you think it is to high you can buy some cheap coins after the ico right? So just wait and make money over the people you are thinking pay to much.

Most Ico's really sell its prices too high and with minimum of amount to buy. Even they dont have yet a product to offer to the users. This is really important to check which is legit to invest because of the prices that are high so that in the end it is worth it.

Some ICO tokens are very expensive. I check the project and its targets but I think payig them this much money doesn't worth it. Some teams try to benefit from ICO hype and they do this intentionally. Find cheap tokens in ICOs.

ICO prices too high I agree but the supply of the coins are low so that makes the prices higher.Also if you want to make it cheaper you should catch the bonus they have there are huge bonuses for ICOs. Good Luck

You are very right. These high ICO prices could result in a massive selloff one day. A burst of a bubble where people realisie there is no value behind some of the projects .. just look at the price of BCC. Ok, that was a Scam in the first place .. but it is a great example of how a people can react when they realise they have invested in a worthless thing.

Is the cost of a token or coin of high or not depends on the technology of the token, and also from supply and demand. Many investors use tokens simply as assets for resale. And at some point, investors can sell a significant part of the token, and this too will affect the price

What do you mean with ICO pricess expensive? are you talking about the prices of the coins during the ico stage?
If yes, the most expensive one in where i participated was Sether, each coin was aprox $3,10 at the end of the ICO.

I think he says that companies collect very large amounts without the need because they do not have any real value other than an idea.

It is not that high. You only think that it is high because when the tokens were included in exchanges many people are just dumping their coins especially bounty hunters. In ICO and also pre-ico, you can get the best deal of coins. Why? Because of bonuses. Each rounds they will have bonuses each and we can say that joining ICO is the best investment ever only if the project will succeed and so as the coin.

I guess why they seems pretty high to you is because of the high cost of set up and probably for the token. I noticed it recently too but I didn't want to make any noise, glad someone else did. But if you have an ICO that's worth it, then turning in some few coins won't be a problem. Another thing I seems not to understand is why some ICO demands high pays for US citizens and low pays for Non-US citizens.

If you see high ICO that could be a signal to  some sort of money grabbing!  How much really is needed to get things done?

You would really able to see different prices since each project do have different total supply of coins. If you do see surpassed dollar price of coin then most likely they have the total supply of 20-30m+ overall which those price are bit considerable. The thing you should hesitate is to invest into a coin which do have a billion supply with higher price of each token then it would really give me a doubt to invest on.

Yes that's true even I did it in the past when I completed the bounty campaign and I was just waiting for my ICO to turn into the altcoin and listed under the exchange and it did happen with a value of more than 2 dollars and after the bounty members started selling it the value has been dropped down to 50 cents.

The price is too high when investors can't make the difference between token price and market cap.

I agree with this. Most of the ICOs are overpriced but that also happens on IPOs, stocks initial offering. There are very few ICO that have low price and backed by a real product with good devs. That is why I invest on very few ICOs. I wait til it hit the exchanges and bounty hunters dump their tokens, then you can buy it way cheaper.

There are many investors that are putting the high hopes into the certain project because of the high price at the beginning. Because of that price they are thinking that token will bring them the fortune but that doesn't go that way. Many developers behind the ICO project are trying to get a fast money with the unfinished project that has no realistic outcome. Also, a little amount of the ICOs that are setting the higher price at the start are successful in the end.

Everything depends on the goals and organization of the certain team behind the project and on the realization of that project so it is better to analyze the ICO and determine alone if the token is worth the price it is given. The tokens are transferred in coins after successful ICO and many investors are losing their profit because of the high hopes for the project without the further goal after the ICO sale.

Sometimes even if the price is lowered after the realization of the final coin price can go up in a few months so don't be eager to sell right away with a loss in the end. Be patient and if you truly believe in the project stick a little longer with a certain coin in your portfolio because everything depends on the demand of investors.

Most who launch ico have no real knowledge of economics and set the prices randomly it seems

OP is right here, ICO's are being launched lately with price more or less - 1$ per token.
This is not part of discussion where you may or may not have different opinion. Fact is - mostly they don't have working product.  
Token price during ICO is fixed, you can get bonus or discount as early investor but that's all, token price isn't moving during ICO for sure, it happens after ICO ends and from that point it is called trading, not ICO. It seems that you don't understand what ICO (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/initial-coin-offering-ico.asp) is.

That right pricez increase before. That maybe due to the recent ico market boom.
However to review a project needs to consider many other factors besides price.

It does seem suspicious when tokens are priced above a dollar. How much do they think their company is worth before it starts? It's like people valuing their companies on Dragons Den for millions of dollars

Well, there are some which cost really high but not all of them. Do not look on the ICO price instead, look for the technology and the project itself. If you can see to it the the ICO cost is really worht it for the project, you are good to go. A good example for this is the Titanium ICO. Each token cost $1 each. Immeaditely after the ICO, your token already incurred a 150% growth. It is the project that we should look for and not the ICO price.

There are hype all over the crypto world and there are stories of people minting money simply by investing in ICO and selling in profit once ICO ends. So, new ICO can be priced quite high. If you are interested in any ICOs, I advice you to invest half of the amount in ICO and the rest after the coin gets listed and when its price falls.

The price of their coins depends on the numbers of token or supply they have. That is what I know about this ICO thing, not sure though. So if the ICO has low amount of supply they would probably sell those coins at a higher price.

In my opinion cheap price of ICO or below $1 is much better than higher price because cheaper price has more potential and more easy to going up by multiple time . So combination cheap price of token on ICO and working product is best opportunity to make big profit in ICO market.

Definitely, they have been doing this since its earlier days and ICO businesses bloom due to possibility of huge profits once they deceived potential investors that keep risking their money to a project that might not work. Well, not all ICO do this, some were making prices high to reach fast their timeline and create more hype to gain a lot of investors and make the project succesful. Initial Coin Offering success rely to investors, amount of money that they have been collected and shorter timeline. However, if developers aren't serious with the project, once they have amassed a lot of money even they reach their timeline, they most likely go away and scam its investors.

I think it also depends on their total supply, most of the project with billions of supply selling their ICO'c for very low price and it took long time to grow the value in the market.If the project has a very small supply for sure it's expensive but for sure when its already in the market it will be expensive as well.

I guess 0,5$- 1,5$ isn't a high price for a token ( except BitconnectX 50$ for each token ). It's a charming price for investors to start investing. How can you still complaining about it?

sometimes the ICO prices are as high as the target price of the existing coins in the exchanges. which has a better platforms than than the ICO. better to research carefully regarding the ico if you dont want your money go to waste

That is a red flag another one is how much money they want to raise I have seen some icos wanting to raise more than 100 millions and the supposed devs still have to write a single line of code, which is ridiculous, also the bonuses bother me, since they give huge bonuses to early investors when the ones that invested later are still risking their money in their ico.

Each product has its own price. Buy at this price, or not this is already a personal business of the buyer. If you price seemed too high, just walk past. But! this IKO here can shoot and x5, then you say that it was expensive?