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Title: Mining on WiFi Post by: Amstellodamois on January 19, 2018, 07:52:18 PM I know it's advised to use an ethernet connection but...
So, if you have to use a WiFi connection, how do you do it? Use a USB adapter? setup a WiFi router near the rig to create a sub-network? Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Undefined31415 on January 19, 2018, 08:13:25 PM I know it's advised to use an ethernet connection but... So, if you have to use a WiFi connection, how do you do it? Use a USB adapter? setup a WiFi router near the rig to create a sub-network? If your home does not already have a wireless router, than obviously you'd have to set one up. (Depending on the quality of the wireless adapter, if your router is far from the rig, you may want a repeater or additional router.) A USB wireless adapter should work fine. Mining does not require much bandwidth; the main things are reliability and latency. Ethernet is typically more reliable and offers lower latency (and hopefully fewer stale shares, where another miner "beat you to the punch"), in most cases. Usually the difference is negligible, unless one of them happens to be very poor. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: MarkAz on January 19, 2018, 10:26:56 PM As Undefined said, mining is all about latency not bandwidth, so just focus on that. One mistake I've seen people on the forum make repeatedly is to pick up a WiFi to Ethernet bridge to run cat5 into their computer - this is almost always a worse setup unless you're able to reposition the bridge in some way you wouldn't be able to move an external antenna. If you're running linux, make sure to pay attention to not just signal strength, but link quality, which makes it easy to gauge performance in terms of AP->Computer and Computer->AP.
Once you get it setup, then just run a ping to your gateway, and make sure you see stable times and low to no packet loss - if you do that, you should be good to go. But if you start doing more mining or whatever, keep in mind that wired will always be better and will eliminate another potential source of problems, which is half of what mining is it seems like. ;) Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Amstellodamois on January 19, 2018, 10:54:45 PM As Undefined said, mining is all about latency not bandwidth, so just focus on that. One mistake I've seen people on the forum make repeatedly is to pick up a WiFi to Ethernet bridge to run cat5 into their computer - this is almost always a worse setup unless you're able to reposition the bridge in some way you wouldn't be able to move an external antenna. That's exactly what I was wondering! So a USB adapter with an antenna, rather than ethernet cable to a WiFi access point of some sort.Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: PetrovichCoinMaster on January 19, 2018, 11:14:05 PM If I considered the option to connect my rig via wifi, then I would definitely buy a motherboard with built-in wifi receiver. This is much safer because I tried to connect via USB adapter, and experienced frequent disconnects. Maybe it's me not so lucky.
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Amstellodamois on January 19, 2018, 11:17:33 PM When you have built-in WiFi, have you the possibility to add an antenna?
(Asking although I already ordered my ASUS PRIME Z270-A) Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: PetrovichCoinMaster on January 19, 2018, 11:31:43 PM When you have built-in WiFi, have you the possibility to add an antenna? I read in the description of several motherboards that have a socket for the antenna.(Asking although I already ordered my ASUS PRIME Z270-A) Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: gfigg42 on January 20, 2018, 12:47:12 AM I just built my rig and have been mining with it on the workbench until I get it completely buttoned up. I'm using a wifi adapter and I have no problem.
Not sure on my uptime but here are the stats reported by the API right now: Speed (Sols / S) 2685.88 Power (Watts) 771 Efficiency (Sols / W) 3.48 Accepted 9247 Rejected 31 I think it's fine as long as the wifi is solid. I my case it's just about 15 feet away but I'd have to run an Ethernet cable across the floor so I'm just using wifi for now. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: BTC22 on January 20, 2018, 12:59:56 AM I use this and it's rock solid. I have 300 mb internet and I'm getting close to 100 on this.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IEU7UZ0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: VyprBTC on January 20, 2018, 01:18:33 AM I used my phone as a hotspot for 20 rigs for a month - no hashrate loss poolside so it was nice and stable.
What I did though was configure my DD-WRT router to bridge the Phones signal, then ran the Cat5 cables to all the rigs instead of using WiFi for all of them. Actually I could only run 5 devices off hotspot so that's also the bonus of bridging to your router. 1/2 the rigs didn't have WiFi - the ones that did were all internal chips but it was unreliable connecting via the onboard WiFi. once I switched to the router, I had no issues using my hotspot. The good thing too is you can move the Router anywhere, because the Router is picking up your phone's signal, and then just routing it via the Cat5. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: adam205611 on January 20, 2018, 01:33:36 AM My wireless i a bit unstable. Any recommendations on solid wireless routers with a proven track record?
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: BTC22 on January 20, 2018, 01:44:29 AM Netgear Nighthawk
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: sjyi on January 20, 2018, 01:45:26 AM My wireless i a bit unstable. Any recommendations on solid wireless routers with a proven track record? I don't know about proven track record but I've used many different LinkSys with no problems. I've also used various Netgear, Securify Almond and TP-Link with no problem. I did have a problem with a cheap TP-Link, I think it was about $20. I'd stay away from the cheap devices. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: flip4flop on January 20, 2018, 02:16:34 AM I have been mining on Wi-fi since I started and have zero issues. If you connection is stable with a good provider there is no reason you HAVE to do a wired connection. A USB adapter works just fine.
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: BigBossUSA on January 20, 2018, 02:42:11 AM I know it's advised to use an ethernet connection but... So, if you have to use a WiFi connection, how do you do it? Use a USB adapter? setup a WiFi router near the rig to create a sub-network? You could connect the miner to the wifi adapter using ethernet. Then connect the wifi adapter to your wifi. That's at least one inexpensive way to do it. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: gotminer on January 20, 2018, 02:45:42 AM The more I see people say they've been running rigs on wifi, the more I believe that it "can" be stable, if you have quality hardware. I just don't personally trust it. Don't go cheap on anything, if you're doing wifi though. And consider the distance. If you have a quality wifi router that sits in the same room as your mining rigs, it could provide a very stable connection.
For me it was just cheaper to buy a 75ft cat6 cable to run through the ceiling in my office (where my router is) to my mining room. Less than $20 for the cable and around $30 for the 8 port gigabit switch. $50USD is less than what I would have spent buying usb wifi adapters for four mining rigs and I have the stability of a hardwire connection. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Dimedroll on January 20, 2018, 02:50:37 AM I have been mining on Wi-fi two weeks and have zero issues. If you connection is stable with a good provider there is no reason you HAVE to do a wired connection. A USB adapter works just fine.
TP-LINK :-* Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: gotminer on January 20, 2018, 03:19:10 AM I have been mining on Wi-fi two weeks and have zero issues. If you connection is stable with a good provider there is no reason you HAVE to do a wired connection. A USB adapter works just fine. TP-LINK :-* Good stable provider is a given. You certainly need that. That's going to go down even if you are hardwired. If the internet connection isn't there, it makes no difference. Please use good hardware (wifi router, extender, adapters) if you are going to use wifi. And take into consideration the distance between the router and the wifi adapter. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Amstellodamois on January 20, 2018, 01:08:04 PM Bought that: https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00416Q5KI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
We'll see if it's stable enough. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: polymer_city2 on January 20, 2018, 01:55:36 PM Not sure if this is any help
I have a whole farm running from a USB wifi adapter Alfa AWUS036NH The guy still hasn't put the internet in, so I have this bridged with a PC which feeds 2 x 24 port network switches via Ethernet. It works perfectly fine! Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Tidsdilatation on January 20, 2018, 02:00:51 PM Why would one "HAVE" to use Wifi? Cables can be hidden, its more reliable and cheaper. I cannot see why one would have to use wifi. The only thing would be cable abstruction, but that can be solved with small holes in walls. Or that CAT6 cables should not go above 90m in length, but WIFI is not better at that either.
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: yhhy on January 20, 2018, 02:02:33 PM I have a whole farm running from a USB wifi adapter I'm also running USB wifi adapters and they work great no problems, easy when you donīt have to put cables =). Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Amstellodamois on January 20, 2018, 02:06:49 PM Why would one "HAVE" to use Wifi? Because your internet modem is in the middle of your living room (plugged into a coaxial connection, your former "cable") and you don't want to see a cable running from there to your basement.Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: gotminer on January 20, 2018, 03:28:53 PM Why would one "HAVE" to use Wifi? Because your internet modem is in the middle of your living room (plugged into a coaxial connection, your former "cable") and you don't want to see a cable running from there to your basement.How are you going to see it? Go right through the floor near the modem into the basement. If you're worried about seeing the cable in the basement, buy some sort of cable management solution that can be mounted to the wall and painted the same color as the wall. Any hardware store sells them. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: gotminer on January 20, 2018, 03:30:56 PM Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: lakisc on January 20, 2018, 03:36:27 PM wifi mining for a week and no problem so far
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Amstellodamois on January 20, 2018, 03:37:27 PM Why would one "HAVE" to use Wifi? Because your internet modem is in the middle of your living room (plugged into a coaxial connection, your former "cable") and you don't want to see a cable running from there to your basement.Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: gotminer on January 20, 2018, 03:49:39 PM Why would one "HAVE" to use Wifi? Because your internet modem is in the middle of your living room (plugged into a coaxial connection, your former "cable") and you don't want to see a cable running from there to your basement.Let me guess. Your cable company ran their wires through your window? Lol. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Amstellodamois on January 20, 2018, 04:00:59 PM From upstairs in a pillar.
I feel I've given enough details, keeping in mind the question was "How to get a rig to work on WiFi", not "How to reorganize my house" Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: gotminer on January 20, 2018, 04:08:41 PM From upstairs in a pillar. I feel I've given enough details, keeping in mind the question was "How to get a rig to work on WiFi", not "How to reorganize my house" Just like you would any other computer. Why in the fuck would think it would be any different? Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: elramsy on January 20, 2018, 04:14:21 PM please i need more light on how to mine
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: gotminer on January 20, 2018, 04:16:27 PM please i need more light on how to mine Yours isn't LED? They are a lot brighter than the old style ones, you fucktard. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: badferret on January 20, 2018, 04:29:54 PM I use a wifi and haven't had issues. Main thing if you have multiple computers to to make sure you have a high quality switch, not a network hub...a real switch. Don't put hubs, they will have more collisions.
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Dimedroll on January 20, 2018, 05:18:08 PM I have been mining on Wi-fi two weeks and have zero issues. If you connection is stable with a good provider there is no reason you HAVE to do a wired connection. A USB adapter works just fine. TP-LINK :-* Good stable provider is a given. You certainly need that. That's going to go down even if you are hardwired. If the internet connection isn't there, it makes no difference. Please use good hardware (wifi router, extender, adapters) if you are going to use wifi. And take into consideration the distance between the router and the wifi adapter. I have good internet provider with 100 Mb/s speed. Only one problem - invisible adapter. I solved reinstall driver on this device. And rig 24/7 working:) Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: waiki on January 20, 2018, 07:01:12 PM mining using wifi it's a good idea because of its stable connection speed, rarely experiencing interference, free access and its price is cheaper than a data sim card Pack.
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Amstellodamois on January 20, 2018, 07:23:15 PM How much data do you consume?
Say for an average six card rig. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: zoufou on January 20, 2018, 07:23:54 PM All my rigs are running on wifi with a dedicated router and network for them, this is cheaper and cleaner than managing cables and switches.
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: gotminer on January 20, 2018, 07:24:48 PM mining using wifi it's a good idea because of its stable connection speed, rarely experiencing interference, free access and its price is cheaper than a data sim card Pack. Free access? You're still paying for your internet connection whether you use wifi or not. What are you doing? Loading up your mining rigs up in the back of your truck and parking it at McDonalds for the free wifi? Lol. I'm surprised they let you run an extension cord in the back door to power them. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: gotminer on January 20, 2018, 07:26:12 PM All my rigs are running on wifi with a dedicated router and network for them, this is cheaper and cleaner than managing cables and switches. Can't get much cleaner than this ... And nope, I'm not running them on wifi. https://i.imgur.com/7dECNFH.jpg Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: kissmarx on October 31, 2018, 02:41:45 AM I think WIFI is not good for mining. Somehow when I turn on the mining, it seems to cause some problem with the WIFI signal. It's very unstable and internet is on and off and all the shares found is gone to waste. Maybe it depends upon the brand of wifi adapter but I don't recommend it.
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Amstellodamois on October 31, 2018, 03:08:00 PM I ended up using WiFi and it works a treat for me, so...
One Rig uses a USB WiFi adapter, the other is connected via RJ45 to a router in repeating mode (said router using WiFi to connect to my main router connected to the internet) Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: starlilyth on October 31, 2018, 03:32:57 PM Just dont.
The simplest way to explain it is: Wifi networking batches packets, which confuses most pools. It doesnt matter what kind of equipment you have, thats just how wifi works. After having helped thousands of miners with their setups, we can safely say that while you can mine on wifi, it causes trouble more often than not, usually at the pool side. Pool software in general isnt sophisticated enough to deal with loads of out of sequence packets, they prefer a steady stream of data. Larger pools have developed solutions for this of course, and your local network hardware may mitigate that if you have spent your money properly, but the average small miner mining on the average small altcoin pool will have trouble, in our experience. Best of luck! Lily getpimp.org | miner.farm Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: kissmarx on July 12, 2019, 07:21:02 AM We can do it with WIFI but it's not very reliable. That's my experience mining via wifi thru tp link. But maybe we can try another brand of adapter, and then maybe it can tell a better story.
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: Bohr256 on July 12, 2019, 08:04:58 AM When I first set up my rig I had it connected to a dial up and was mining for a month np (around 250-450 ms latency). The only problem was that the connection resetted every 24 hours, so I had to create a task to restart the rig to regain connection. Then I got a wifi dongle and was mining fine for a few months until the dongle died. Which brings us to my rig's current state: I had an old laptop collecting dust and used it to shared the ethernet connection with my rig. It's been working fine for the last 6 months @ 50-60 ms latency.
Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: xxcsu on July 13, 2019, 02:01:00 AM 1.5 years old topic, someone brought back to life :)
so let me quote myself from another topic :) If you are going to use WiFi in a mining farm then you are surely gonna have connection problems as all load is on single router. So if your rigs are hardwired, your rigs is not connected to a single router, and not all load is on a single router ? ? :) how many routers are you planning to use for a few rigs whats are located in a different area of a apartment ? My rigs are in different parts of apartment and therefore using Wired is not possible. I had to use wifi extender and connect rig to that extender using wired connection. It works usually but still wanted to find out option of removing the extender. Thanks everyone for help. Wired connection is always better, i would say the best. Its really doesnt matter you are using Wifi, Wired or PNA , if its set up right, you sould be good to go without any issues. You have a few option other than wired connection, but not not much :) Im posting links for you , so you can read and understand better what im saying ) -Wifi - if you set up right , you cant have any issues ... get a access point with beam forming (https://www.pcworld.com/article/2061907/all-about-beamforming-the-faster-wi-fi-you-didnt-know-you-needed.html) and MIMO (https://www.networkworld.com/article/3250268/what-is-mu-mimo-and-why-you-need-it-in-your-wireless-routers.html) function. Example enGenius EAP 1250 (https://www.engeniustech.com/compact-indoor-wireless-ap.html) If you dont want to wire anything, not even the access points, you have a option to build a whole home mesh wifi system (https://www.engeniustech.com/enmesh-wifi/enmesh-whole-home-mesh-wifi-system-how-it-works/), using the EAP 1250 what i linked earlier . -Powerline Network Adapter (https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-a-powerline-adapter-1846813), need some kind of short wiring, but you can use everywhere in your apartment. Title: Re: Mining on WiFi Post by: kissmarx on July 13, 2019, 12:07:13 PM We can do it with WIFI but it's not very reliable. That's my experience mining via wifi thru tp link. But maybe we can try another brand of adapter, and then maybe it can tell a better story. Yes, through Wifi we are not getting better results and even tried my best to change many Wifi brands but it will help to benefit from it. I think we need to use mining rings which are best to use instead of using wifi. Mining rings? What are they? |
