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Evga 1070 FTW > $1K on Amazon and Newegg now. Last time I checked a few weeks ago they were ~ $500

WTF ?

Retail pricing for any cards that can be used for mining has gone up 10-25% compared to last month. Double is only if you don't mind getting screwed or want the cards now with minimal effort.

I bought some 1070ti's for $500 each a few weeks ago.  They are pretty much out of stock everywhere at the moment, but the price has gone up to $550-580ish on the websites I buy from.  

You're seeing small time sellers who just realize they are out of stock everywhere and they are trying to screw people over.  No way would I would buy a 1070ti for 1K unless the profitibility was double what it is.

I bought Vega 56's at the end of November ... Out of stock everywhere, but there are some small time sellers on Amazon trying to get $1250-$1500 out of them. Lol ... When I get bored, I troll them for fun.

Yep, don't buy them.

Yeah i´ve seen those amazon sellers aswell.. stay far away from them!

I've found a few 1080 Ti for 800€ each, I reckon that's a nice deal at the moment.

Rx 580 8g  ====》 580€

Asus gtx1060 strix O6G ==> 369€

Yeah, I bought an MSI 1070 Ti Titanium a month ago for $469 (Newegg), thought about getting another one a couple weeks back, and it was more than twice the price. Went to Amazon just out of curiosity, they wanted about $1200.

Spent 310€ each for 5 shipped on Friday. I expect them on Monday.

I did P/U a Gigabyte 1060 (3GB Windforce) yesterday. Paid $379, but I got a free Aorus mobo as part of the deal. Still more than I wanted to spend, but at least I've got a card to fill the last slot on one of my current rigs, and a base to start the next one...

People are crazy (https://www.ebay.fr/itm/202189307978?ul_noapp=true)
That price for a non-functioning card...

ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI   1.505,82 €    :)  https://www.gigastore.sk/gtx-1080+27454/asus-geforce-rog-strix-gtx1080ti-o11g-gaming-11gb-gdrr5x-dvi-hdmi-dp/ (https://www.gigastore.sk/gtx-1080+27454/asus-geforce-rog-strix-gtx1080ti-o11g-gaming-11gb-gdrr5x-dvi-hdmi-dp/)

Yeah, Ive seen the price have rised a lot, its even hard to find some GPU's now since everything is selling fast, a lot of people jumping on minning this days and resellers on Amazon are just selling them at a crazy rate. I will wait to see if they go down or to try to find another website to buy them. Just make sure you dont buy a cheap one this days because it sounds too good to be true, might be a scam.

New case in point.  I got an email earlier tonight from EVGA saying that they had two models of 1080ti's in stock.  I click on the link in the email 10 minutes after it was delivered to my gmail account.  They no longer had any in stock.

doubled? more like quadrupled, rx 580 is being sold in few places for $1200 from $250.

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Well, you say crazy, I say stupid. They will never get their money back and in the end will be in debt hehe

That's what happens when the guys in America get all these credit cards for free  ;D ;D

Can I please know where you got those Rx 580 so cheap? Are they still available now?

yes, GPU price doubled. Due to high demand and every stock is always sold out. The seller also uses the opportunity to profit up to 100% of the GPU's normal price. and GPU distributors also lowered the warranty period to be shorter.

Wow! I found some for under 800 € (from retailer)!


I'm a nice guy, so I'm willing to part with six cards for $6,000 ;D


Private individual from France. I took all he had. Brand new cards.

Retailers are trying to milk everyone for those last dollars before the next gen cards come out.  :D

I believe nvidia quit producing them. Voltas are coming soon.

Voltas are coming soon and pretty much the RX will become obsolete if Nvidia delivers as they have promised, the first GPU-s to be equipped with GDDR6 memory and hopefully will show a great improvement in coins which are dependent on memory. Still here in Italy you can find only locally a RX 580 for 440 EUR which I think it is too much for 30 Mhash they offer in mining.

Samsung is now mass-manufacturing GDDR6 memory for new gen gpu-s. But when will volta come out no one knows.

This is pretty interesting, Samsung seems to have done very well out of GPU sales and it seems they are one of the first companies to acknowledge crypto-mining.

I wonder if VEGA cards are going to be the top dogs or whether Team Green will triumph this time around.

I bought a few cards at Christmas for around 200 GBP, and the prices are steadily climbing. 1060s and 570s are pretty badly affected.

keep buying gpu's trolls, keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuying, dooooooo nooooooooooot sssssssssstooooooooooop buuuuuuuuuuying hehe and dont worry cause you can always use them for heating in winter hehe or if you have vega then to grill some meat hehe

Why do you even post in the mining subforum when it is obvious you think mining is pointless (never mind that most coins would not exist in the first place without miners)?

I really hate to put people on my ignore list because I think hearing from those you don't necessarily agree with is useful, but your posts are pretty much devoid of all meaningful content and not helped in the slightest by appending "hehe" to nearly every sentence.

But please feel free to prove me wrong by writing something cogent and meaningful...

Even the GPUS from AMD R9 series are going for a really high price :P

So, is it a bad time to buy some 1080 Ti because the new thing is coming out...or is it the right time because there won't be anything available for month?

It is a good time to buy a gtx 1080ti only if you find for $500. Volta is coming soon and likely a gtx 1080ti will not be used for mining in few months  and volta will be for gaming, paying more than $500 for 1080ti is hanging yourself to death. I think a gtx 1080ti for $500 is still very expensive, to be safe $350 maximum.

It is manic, I have just managed to get some of 570 nitro+ 8gb for the price between £323-£345. It is well expensive, should have bought when I first looked into mining...

Soon you will find a rx 570 for just $100 and where I live idiots are paying $400. Remember that rx 470 used to be selling as low as $120 and it was brand new, a rx 570 is just a copy of it and selling as $400, that is bs and i do hope the idiots inflating the gpu market will lose a lot cause of it.

Here where i live, there are NO cards usable for mining at all. Everything from 1050 ti and above is just sold out.

Same here in the Midwest USA.  I mean you can find them, but you have to pay double or triple msrp and that's a horrible business decision.

Volta/Ampere won't release until March at the very earliest.  It could be later than that since Nvidia has zero incentive to rush the launch since they're selling every single Pascal card they can produce at this point and AMD isn't exactly much of a threat with their practically non-existent Vegas.



As long as ETH and XMR are profitable, I wouldn't count on RX cards dropping that low or even going back to their original MSRPs.

Okay, understandable but this is supply demand right? so in turn if there is no profit then expect rx 570 at $100.

Come on where are your heads, rx 470 was $120 brand new. You trolls have been spoiled to see the truth.

AMD and nvidia is selling the gpus for almost the same prices as before, Third party manufacturers and resellers here are the greedy ones.

Sure, if those coins and their derivatives tank for whatever reason, there would be a huge number of cards being dumped on the market, just like what happened with the Tahiti/Hawaii cards back in 2014.  Actually, I think it would be even worse this time around since there would be both AMD and Nvidia cards flooding the markets so prices might be even lower than $100.  I still don't see this happening though now that crypto has entered the mainstream consciousness and everyone and their dogs has figured out that GPUs are little printing presses. 

Its totally weird. Eth was 1300 range and rx cards were 250 and available.
Recently Eth dropped to 1000 and cards are sold out everywhere.

Totally unlogical.

Problem is that with such prices its hard to break even.
Of course. When this finally will happen there will be new cards.

However price of these new cards will be too high.
There is no point to buy titan for 3k doing 77mh.

It seems logical for the idiots, if we take current prices, $800 for a rx 580. I bet Titan gives 4 times or more performance than rx 580.

10-25% is still affordable for small miners. But here in my country, the price goes up to over 100%! The GTX 1070ti one can buy for only $400 (more or less) last year is now over $1000 depending on the brand. The sad thing is its availability, it's harder to find these days... I suspect retailers are hoarding the cards for more profits.

Do you take into consideration that the idiots who pay those prices are a very small percentage of the mining community?  And very new at that.  Probably trying to build their first mining rig.  The number of cards available at those insane prices don't even allow it to make up that much of the market.  We're talking small time eBay sellers ... Small time businesses who only sell gpu's, because they think they can make a buck from it.  None of the large scale retailers are price gouging to the extent that you speak of.  X2, X3, X4.

B&H, Newegg, Amazon, MicroCenter, Fry's, Ect ...  None of them have ever asked $1200, $1300, $1400, $1500 for a 1080ti.  

Some of those companies have platforms that allow for resellers to sell at whatever price they want, through their website.  It's like the "Buy It Now" eBay of NewEgg or whatever other company that offers that to small timers.  

Case in point ... I emailed a Amazon seller that I bought from back in November at a very good price about cards that I wanted a few weeks ago.  Those dumbasses actually sent me an email back saying they some stock, but they could not fulfill my order.  They also wanted X3 per card at the time compared to what I paid them for the same cards in November.  I told them that they were insane and I explained why.  Their reply was that they sell gpu's at current market value.  Perhaps their current market value isn't updated on a regular basis, but I essentially told them to fuck off, and let me know when they wanted to sell their stock.  

If you want to sell a card for $500 when btc is valued at 10K, you shouldn't be asking for X2, X2, X4 when btc is valued at 11K.  That's just hte result of a shortage by the manufacturer and a handfull of stupid idiots.  

I'm going to continue ... I agree with you that people should not be buying up gpu's at current insane prices from small timers.  I don't agree with you in the aspect that gpu mining dies in 2018, because you think ASIC's will take over Equihash.  Who gives a fuck about Equihash.  None of my rigs are even mining that algo today.  You may have not said it in this thread, but you have in others.  And that is where I don't agree with you at all.

Jeez... what’s with all the hostility? How many times as the shortage hit and prices sky rocket? Then things return to normal, then it happens all over again. Surely we’ve all seen this show already... there isn’t even a new twist, it’s exactly the same as the last 5 times

The GPU chip makers are caught between a rock and a hard place.  Now that there is another use for their product the demand has increased, driving prices up.  They will have to come up with a solution that keeps both sides happy.  I don't see this being fixed anytime soon unless they increase their manufacturing capabilities.

Oh we have.  Some just don't think the show will go on and on and on.  Some think they know what the end all, be all really is.  Maybe their guess is correct and maybe it is not, but it isn't anything other than a guess.  Anyone entering this market by any means, should consider it to be highly speculative, and be ok with losing 100% of their investment. 

Other than that ... Speculate on, mine on, invest on ...

Those resellers or retailers do not know anything about how much people are getting from when mining or using that card to, they base their prices on on how much somebody is willing to pay for a product they are selling, for example where I live RX 580 was $300 before this madness, they had thousands, in just one week, they sold 25% of them all, normally they sell only 10% at best per week, this is usually too much, so they increased to $450 then it continued, sold in the next week 40% more, at $450 and then they increased to $650 and then sold a lot more and now their price is $800 for a rx 580. There is no nvidia card at all, 100% sold. People are paying $800 for a rx 580 right now and if this continues, it will break $1200 for a rx 580. By the way I do not live in the USA, meaning cards are going to whoever pays the most and there are many people paying $800 for a rx 580 where I live.

I'm not a miner, I have a friend who is a miner and he stopped buying gpu's last march. He used to buy rx 470 for $140 and seeing these prices, he told he started selling his cards, best decision he will ever make.

They did however was just a little increase 10% few weeks ago, this is the manufactures and resellers, cause they see bitcoin price and they think those miners are making 12000 dollars very easy. That is why they are doing, and the stupid people keep buying their cards.

Retailers hoarding indeed! I was at my favorite electronics store looking at GPUs and I noticed immediately that there were barely any cards on the shelves in front of me. Like 1 1070 ACX 3.0 for $669 and a bunch of 1030s and 1050s (non ti). An associate asked me if I was looking for a certain card and pointed left to a top shelf over by the printers. Nothing but 1080/ti and 1070/ti stacked high and out of sight for most.

people have wised up, no one is buying cards worth $250- $500 at the $900 to $1k they want

once the stock builds back up probbaly in march prices will become semi normal again

In my country GPU prices are still the same it seams that the mining buzz in here settled down since the AMD RX series has sold out last year along with the crypto price drop last two weeks ago. It seams like only the countries that has a big crypto community is having a price hike on GPU.

Metroid> What are you doing here? What value do you bring to this thread?

May I ask you where are you from? Because everywhere I look GPUs are going for mad prices.  :P I'm from Estonia.

How much is a 1080 Ti there?

Hey,

Would a 1080 at $800 ish ( £565 ) be too much?
I got 2 at that price from gigabyte on the 20th this month and price went up £100 more in 2 days.
I keep thinking I started building a rig to late :) (this year)  ::)

I bought 2 gtx1060 last week, around 240$ each one, not so bad

I don't know the fact in this story.
And is it raised from factory or just from middle man and its vendors.
But price keep rising almost 30% just in 2 weeks

You know what didn't just double but in fact tripled?

The amount of whining, crying, and complaining about GPU mining on gaming forums.   ::)

Lol you mean “worst” decision he ever made. ETH is past $1200.. unless he sold those cards for 5k each... he’s kicking himself in the teeth for how much money he lost. You should cover his dental bill for all FUD you filled his head with causing him to sell

uh? He bought for $140 and sold for $500, to me it looks a fine deal, staying mining with it longer would never get him even close $500 profit with just 1 card. A rx 470 mining eth is giving miners right now $2.50 per day, so $500 divided by 2.50 = 200 days for him to break even, He made the right decision. You people who buy overpriced gpus are just making people who bought rx 470 for $140 to sell to you trolls for $500 hehe

Make sure he never look at how many ETH he would have mined and how much they would be worth today...

What are you saying? He sold few weeks ago and up to that time he was mining cause is is a MINER. If he stayed with it then he would have probably have already got $32 in 17 days. He was very wise to sell to the idiot who bought from him for $500, the idiot will have to be very lucky cause one there is no warranty anymore and second the gpu could die anytime. The idiot will have to wait for 200 days to break even and if the gpu dies next week then the loss will be close to $450.

Your math is horrendous. Try again. You said he sold in March 2017. Calculate the difficulty of ETH from then until now and how much ETH he would have accumulated mining for the past 10 months and multiply it by $1200. You’re friend is kicking himself in the teeth unless he does math like you in which case he’s probably happy with a couple hundred bucks in his pocket.

If you’re saying he had only one card, he’s not a miner. He’s a guy with a PC who sold his video card.

I am dont understand this moment. Price of GPU increase double, but profit from mining dcrease double. Whats going on?

Sir, maybe this is what happened,

The seller's mindset (but not all sellers like this): How much stock of goods, how many demands, Hold until prices rise to the moon. then sell

I guess you have not read what i wrote or you have a mental problem, I will quote it again. Please do read before replying things. He did not sell any gpu on march 2017, he stopped buying gpus on march 2017.

Yes, price really goes up, thanks to miners  ;D, joke! We know sellers are taking advantage of this demand. Everywhere you go now it's sold out, even online it's out of stock if not overpriced. And if you can find a good deal and leave it for another day good luck coz you won't see it anymore. People are getting crazy in this mining craze.

In before the mining crash  ;)

They had no idea about bitcoin, now they have idea about bitcoin and its price and they think gpu miners are earning 12k dollars using 1 gpu, so in their heads why they are not selling each of their gpus for 12k dollars hehe, their rx 580 at $800 is just too damn cheap cause for them you will make many 12k dollars hehe, that is what they think hehe

I have close connect to one of the biggest hardware distributors in North America.
I deal with Canadian office. But they huge in usa.
B2b only. No retail sales.

Here what happened with prices just last 3 weeks.
Rx570 they had for 342cad and order would take 21 business days.
I ve seen in a week price was 400. Then 402. Then recently 442. Today price was 416..

I dont convince myself 442 plus tax is worth it. I could consider 300-350 price range at max.

They got 500 cards delivered and sold imemdiatelly.

Now the order is 1100 cards.

Who are these people who buy cards for 500 bucks havìng 2dollars profit from each. Its a long time even to break in.

100% when money will be returned. New cards and algos will ve in. So again. Why people buying is beyond my understanding.

its the Envion and the other cloud mining ICO's that received over 50 million USD from idiots who are paying these conglomerates to compete with them. smh

These companies got basically free money to invest in mining so they dont care what they pay they dont mine to pay $100 extra per gpu and buy thousands at a time

blame these ICO supporting idiots

It's going to be a bloodbath in a few months when NVIDIA brings out new cards.  Gamers will be able to buy their 1070 for retail then.  But that retail price is what they will pay when they buy them used from a miner.

Cloud mining operations will buy them in bulk like that.  They make incredible profits off of their customers, and have to keep expanding.

Those people are probably thinking that that $2/day per card is going to ultimately end up being more if the price of their coins go up.  For example, I started mining ETH with a single r9 290 back in early 2016 and I think I was getting something like 0.5 ETH/day.  At the exchange rate back then, I was generating about $5/day.  However, the price of ETH has skyrocketed since then so that in today's exchange rate, I was effectively generating almost $600/day.  I'm just guessing, but they might be thinking along those lines—gambling on an increased coin price.  I'm not sure why they wouldn't just buy the coins themselves instead though, unless they feel that having a potentially resellable physical GPU is less risky, but at these card prices, that seems like a dubious hedge.

Indeed people can buy coins if they think price will continue to go up.

Of course its supply and demand.

I need cards now but would not pay the price.
As i said 21 days delivery is not great.
570 armors are for 355usd tax included.

Regarding Nvida new cards. Lol. It will be unafordable and expensive.

Titan is here. For 3k each making 77mhps. Not worth it.

Where I live is worse than that, they are paying $800 for a rx 580 and by the looks of it, it will be $1200 very soon cause they did not change the price at all and this has been for 2 weeks and idiots are buying , retailers are using this opportunity to get as much money as possible from these idiots. A month ago it was $250. I have no idea why they are buying at these prices, this is stupid, my friend who is a miner stopped buying cards on march 2017 and he never paid more than $220 for polaris. He is a smart guy.

Are you in the US or CA?  There is a 20% difference in the dollar between the two, but anyway ... Asking because when you post prices, I'm trying to figure out what currency you're speaking of.  In the US, even the shit stain Amazon, eBay, and NewEgg resellers aren't asking $800USD for a RX580.  More like sub $600USD for that card.  Regardless, I wouldn't pay $500USD for a RX580.

And no one in their right mind is going to pay $1200USD for a RX580 in the near future.  If they do, they deserve to lose their shit based on the lack of research that they put in.  Major retailers are not currently doing it and I don't forsee them ever price gouging remotely close to the extent of the small time resellers that are trying to make a quick buck.

I don't even care what the dumbass smaller time resellers are charging these days, because I would never buy from them anyway.  No one should be starting out in gpu mining right now, if they are buying high from a small timer.  Just fucking watch, wait, and make your purchase from a large retailer who isn't trying to fuck you in the ass.

Neither, my point is, gpus go to whoever is paying more for them. For example, if a retailer in any location in the world is paying $600 to sell at $800, gpus will go to them first until that retailer don't need anymore. Manufactures and resellers are loving this, the idiots end users buying them will not be happy in few weeks or months.

My comments are USA related as far as prices that I'm quoting goes, but when I say reseller, I mean small time reseller ... Not major retailers like B&H, Fry's Electronics, Best Buy, New Egg, ect.  Some of those major retailers do allow small time resellers to sell within their platform and those are the people who are price gouging out the ass in the United States.  But for the most part in the USA, the major retailers that I speak of are not pumping prices.  I've seen increases, but not an astronomical increase.  None of them that I have purchased from in the past few months are even 15% higher than MSRP.  You just have to be patient if you are buying gpu's at the moment. 

I agree with you.  People who are paying double or triple or more than MSRP right now are going to be very disappointed in the long run as opposed to just investing in the coin that they wanted to mine to begin with.  Maybe those gpu's they paid too much for will eventually pay for themselves, if they make the right market moves and maybe they will not.  That's total speculation that I'm not even going to get into right now, but the fact is that the longer it takes for the card to pay for itself, the less time you have for that card to generate a profit before it enters the ending days of it's life.

Yes, that is what they really think right now, they don't know that it takes three to six months before we get our return of investments in mining. And they expect that miners were really going to buy high-end GPUs no matter what price they put.

Yes, from the miners, they are greatly benefited, for the producers they produce more and competition out the latest series. of their sellers hope the profits can buying.. Lambo

My friend who is a miner told me today that the resellers are trying very hard to sell their overpriced gpu's right now, before he would not receive any messages from the resellers, now cause the resellers know he bought many from them in the past, they are sending messages to him saying the price and gpus they have everyday, last message he got was that they had only 10 pieces of a gtx 1080ti for only $1180 each hehe, that is bullshit, 3 weeks ago they were selling the same model each for $750. RX 580 for $800, gtx 1070 for $900. His answer was simple, "i will wait till things go back to normal", my friend never paid for gpus higher than msrp and he said he never will and you trolls should do the same, that way those stupid resellers will never price gouging it anymore.

I think, that with current trends for BTC the price for cards will start to fall, cause demand from the miner will drop significantly
with such high prices cards have now and so low ROI only very desperate and courageous  miners  will buy new cards and build new rigs. imho.

Nearly a month later, do you believe demand has dropped ?

I am not seeing any improvement in prices (at least where I live) and everything is constantly out of stock.

Ie. A few days ago received an update that 1080ti are in stock, and decided to purchase 1, but by the time i managed to free some time ( some 10 minutes later) stock was done :).

All the major websites still seem overpriced for me.

Unless this is just for here (uk).

 

I bought mine in begin of January at 300 €

Things (prices) have stayed around the same as they were a month ago. So no real improvement, sadly.

I'm waiting for it to happen, I would like some cheaper cards.

These are the new prices get use to them

The REAL issue on the Nvidia side is getting blatantly obvious (and it's NOT "miners", we're not buying enough NVidia cards except PERHAPS the 1060 to matter).

Back in October 2017, TSMC announced they would be shifting Pascal production to Volta production "around the end of the year".
Then it turns out that 4Q 2017 is the first time PC sales overall had an INCREASE in year-to-year sales (predictions were for a 1.5-2% drop, instead we saw almost 2% JUMP) - and "high end systems" saw major sales in the quarter per many reports, AKA gamers buying new systems in much higher numbers than anytime in years.
As a result, Nvidia didn't have enough Pascal GPU stock on hand for the 1060 and up to last 'till Volta release - and we have the HUGH shortage on available GPUs squeezing pricing hard.

 This doesn't affect the 1050 or 1050 ti as those are Samsung made, and likely to be the last Pascal cards that Nvidia will replace with Volta offerings (just like they did the LAST time around, when the 1080 was the first "consumer" Pascal card released then the 1070 and 1080 ti, then on down the chain over the course of a few months).

Nvidia doesn't want to admit they messed up (even though the REASON they messed up wasn't really THEIR fault) so they keep pointing to "cryptocoin mining demand" that didn't really EXIST for Nvidia to any significant degree in 4Q.


 AMD is another story - Ethereum was expanding hashrate a TON in 4Q to a degree that they probably sold 2 million or so RX 570/580 cards to miners in that quarter ALONE (possibly as high as 3 million, a FEW of the cards sold would have been 1060s due to pricing) and that probably DID affect AMD stocks to a noticeable degree.


The key facts though are that AMD pricing did NOT get into high-end 1070 territory in the fall/winter timeframe, Nvidia-friendly "large GPU count" coins like ZCash were NOT expanding hashrate and in fact saw DIPS in that timeframe, yet Nvidia ran out of cards for sale RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS where AMD still had significant stocks for about 10 days after that, THEN went into "no stock available" mode.

It's also noteable that since Ethereum hashrate has gone FLAT for a bit over a week, AMD card supply has noticeably started to recover and prices are dropping, while Nvidia card supplies are STILL "good luck finding ANYTHING that's not out of a gouger and crazy-high priced".

Don't buy the hype about "it's cryptocoin mining fault" on the Nvidia side - the numbers do NOT support that lie.


RAM pricing has also had some effect on pricing - easily noticeable on sites like EVGA that sell direct and are NOT gouging their customers.

Hehe.

This high prices are good for difficulty :D

Hope it stays this way for some time!

;D

Well, the cheapest 1080 Ti I could find in France is 880 €
I've been trying to sell some of mine (brand new) for 820 €...no luck.

So, I'd say the demand isn't as high as it used to be.

Nvidia is done with pascal, all pascal gpus are eol, so reason why prices are high, gtx 1070 still being sold for $800 where i live and rx 580 crashed to $500 from $1000.

This means that ETH will rise at least 30% in a week or so, expect eth for $1200 in march now.

as far as I can see, there are cards already in us, at least radeon with almost normal pricing
also nvidia seems expensive, but the prices are going down a little.
but soon new gen will be on the market, I'm wondering what it would be with the prices

It depends what do you count as "soon", there are some rumors, that it won't happen anytime nearer end of Q3 or even Q4 of the year, and you shouldn't expect some bargain price either. Nvidia isn't stupid, I'm sure they have a decent finance department and will use current "hype" into their favor. Personally, I'm still active on the market, if I see a decent deal - no hesitation. Today I grabbed 2 gtx 1060s on ebay for 420$, which is really decent.

I wouldn't count on seeing any nex-gen cards until at least 3rd quarter of 2018. Even then, prices will be insane.

The price of 1080Ti dropped $30 in the past two weeks.

I can find used RX 570 4gb (6-9 months old) for 290 euros and it is very easy no to find at 300 euros. This happned this week as last week I coudn't find any at less than 350. Its a big drop.

Been finding 570's and 580's on Newegg and Amazon recently for $300-$320. Still tough to find and have to get lucky while it stock, but nowhere near as tough as a month ago.

In France, it bumped from 845 to 880