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Hello.
Everyone already knows that they have introduced a new requirement for raising the title, in connection with which I have a question.
Since the requirement to transfer the rank has been raised, will the reassessment of the transfer to the bounty

The bounties are made by ICOs who has nothing to do with the forum itself so this is something you have to address to the campaign managers and not the administration of the forum.

Now i understand why theymos put a merit system,to protect the forum from spam shitposters,and to eliminate account farmers that are creating bitcointalk accounts for a living.This will give our forum high quality posts because you need to earn merits to rank,thus will make your posts high quality than ever before.Well we need to know what will community's reaction to this new system and for me this is a great improvement that will benefit most of the us.

For your question,maybe these campaign manager will increase the requirement of these signature campaigns,the least rank would be member i guess because jr.member below cant have any signatures.

I have not figured out how it works yet. You can, for example, ask your friend, a friend, to make an assessment? And so we will raise each other's ratings?

indeed the best answer for this thread hahaha
merit was created to moderate the new accounts farmers and to those people who have many or multiple accounts on this forum.
so that they will force to create a meaningful and not shitty post that didn't help this forum and just making lots of spams over and over again.
imagine there is people that will create thread that are same as previous post in other days. and also for those newbies who the ones creating non sense post. thats basically why merit comes to work

My merit is still 0, i am quite shocked when i read about this system,
i hope my account will getting merit from other people,
because i'm really going all in in this forum, i hope i can learn everything about crypto space soon.
All hail bitcointalk forum

I still do not get the point for this merit system, i think it was not required, instead there should have been a penalty system, for example, if someone is posting spam or low quality posts then his activity could be reduced by 1 for each spam or low quality post, i hope all the respected forum members will agree with me.

The new ranking system is highly beneficial to the community. With this, we will be more disciplined in creating our posts since almost all threads are already filled with shitposts. And as we go along, I believe revisions will be made on this new rule to further maximize its benefits.

Well I noticed a lot of bounty campaigns had experienced suspensions due to lack of participants and there are a lot bounties are going on at the same time and I notice also that due to lack of participants, the bounty campaign was ended early or before their target date.
I don't know, if this merit system should strictly implemented then higher members are living with bitcointalk campaigns and lower ranks with good quality posts are disappointed.

I'm thinking it's unfair and biased.
And let's face the fact! Only few members are giving merits and most of them and most of us didn't care if we're reading quality posts or not, we are all just want to post because we want to comply signature bounty campaign quota for the week.
I don't even bother if someone has to agree with my comment.
Everyone deserves to be part of the blockchain technology but seems not everyone is having a chance in this forum.
Too bad for those members that English isn't their native or major language like me.

I know how it feels bro, but it's seem good system to control spammed account, well it also challenging to rank up now

My merit was also 0 ,even though I wrote lucid posts, and so and I was not raised to the Member. Me in the day of upgrade rang was downgraded to Newbie,and removed from activity and then returned to Jr. Member with 0 merit. And now I don't understand how can I become a Member!?
On the other hand I agree that it is spam protection,and this innovation will be an incentive for me to write thoughtful posts!

There's no connection of transferring bounties because of merit. Do you mean to say that the ranking on who are the possible people that can join the bounties? I see some on how they are giving bonuses to those members that has gained some merit. It's still new and there are still more days to pass to see on how those bounties, managers will adopt the system.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0

i agree with you.  English isn't my native language.  There are pro and con about this merit, if to eradicate shitpost it seems a bit difficult because what I know a lot people are lazy to read the whole thread content, and in order to pursue their rank make a post that not only become spam post, as in bounty thread. For older members who have multiple accounts could have given merit for their mini account. For those who write a good post may not get merit or not get read at all because of too many shit postings, another hand like human nature thinking, I just hard to get merit for what I share to other people. That's my opinion.
I'm apologies if my english isn't good enough

I agree with this new rule because there is a positive effect.
but for jr members who have followed the bounty before there are new rules whether to be removed from the campaign?

The only thing I really don't like about merits is that they should better distributed it according to activity. So, activity 390 and activity 250  differ  like 5 months of posting,  and it is not honest, when they don't take this point into consideration and put some members back to the start line

Do you think this is due to the increasing popularity of bounty companies? And Maybe this is the smoothest new part that adds to the account even more interest or turnover? For what specific purposes have this update been introduced to the end, why is it not clear ...

It is a good development, i think the admin was only thinking about the positive aspect of it. What if member of the forum are using it as a means to make money whereby they sell merit to those that needs it.

This is already happening. Look at OP's post. Does it really deserve a merit point for that post? Give me a break. Meanwhile I've gotten 0 merit posts and a ton of other good posts that I've seen also got 0 merit posts. People are already gaming the system, selling accounts with merit points to rank other alts, giving merit points to their own alts... the list goes on.

It's a good idea, I just doubt in it's execution it will have a positive impact. It just establishes another market, the posting quality overall is the same as always from what I can see.

Yes, it is truly beneficial for the community. Since I became member to bitcointalk, I was thinking about some sort of similar approach to increase the quality of the posts because there are a lot of people here is trying to abuse the forum just by posting empty quality messages. I'm hoping that new merit system finally will fix this issue.

yes but If your friend gives to you merit and then you give him back then it's not allowed by the rules and you can get a red trust
approximately with such an explanation "merit was sent literally minutes apart"

What is the new ranking system now?

Exactly. Nothing change. Very difficult to change own levels but this is all changes as I see now. And under conditions when nobody know (almost nobody) who sources it's becomes only for hope or success to get some merits. Sadly but fact!

Signature campaigns managers with the owners of service, for which signature campaign is run, will decide what factors are in program of their signature campaign.  Some will include it some will not. I guess it will take a month or two before we will see how all this merits work out in general.

i don't quite get the question here. If what you mean is " will reassessment or the ranking up will also be applied to any campaign you joined where you could be reassessed, then i think whether there is merit system or not there's already an established protocol for this which is to contact the moderator to inform of any change in your rank.

yes it's challenging but it woud be more difficult to rank up now especially for newbies and jr member. It is not easy to gain merit even if we have good quality post. Do you think all the people here in the forum will take time to review our posts just to give merit? How about those people that are not that good in english writings? How can they get merited if they have a poor english? Merit system is actually a good idea but it's like a win win situation.

Just don't focus on it and let the time do its thing. The system is new, thus people don't have already the mindset to give merit points. Participate to the forum, post quality messages, and if you have luck, you'll get your points. If not, just wait for it and continue to be positive about it.

My only recommendation would have been to at least give someone that did not have sMerit to give a few in case they found a post worthy of merit.  I know in the past few days since it has been implemented, I have saw some quality posts but was unable to give any merit because I had none to start with.  Now that I have earned a few merit, I have sMerit to give and will do so when I come across a quality post.  To me, a quality post does not have to be a book but can in fact be a short few sentences as long as it is on point and answers the question at hand or makes a valid point.  I do see where giving this sMerit in the beginning to folks that did not have any could be abused but that is likely with any system unfortunately.  There is always going to be people trying to take shortcuts to the system or take advantage of it.

You can read bout new ranking system here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0
No one will raise the rewards for participating in the bounty, if you hope so. These are all problems of bounty hunters. Bounty managers do not care about us

I got your point Sir, totally. With these merit rule, it is now up to us to posts worthwhile and constructively. It is like in facebook/internet campaign, "think before you click". Let us all do our job (signature campaign) responsibly. And if i may add, we don't have to worry if we don't have any friends here to give us merits. As long as our posts are satisfactory and superb, anybody will notice it. We all have to play by the rule.

Most of the people doesn't understand why the new merit system has been implemented. They just think selfishly that their membership level will not increase easily anymore. We should focus on different side. It will bring overall quality to the posts eventually was needed for long time because of those scmamers who does unnecessary posts just to make point in the bounty campaigns that they participated.

I do not think that you can something demand from the forum, because it does not depend on the moderators of the forum, but on the companies themselves. But I hope that they will take this into account.

I think the more affected with this new system is the newbie like me, but the higher rank benefits most. A little bit disappointed but that's the rule of the forum. Instead of whining I think the best thing to do is go on the flow. The administrator of this forum knows what's best for his creation.

Let's face it, the only people who might give you any merit on your posts are the ones running the bounties, because they actually have to read them. The rest of us don't really have the time or patience to run 20+ pages of posts in threads, to maybe find yours and consider it worthy to merit.

Why I'm only allowed to send 1 merit? It is not increasing, I mean sMerits. How to increase it, I want to say ty to great post authors. But I can't, still have 0 sMerits. Can somebody explain to me how to get that darn sMerits replenished??

Yes, it seems to me that the bounty of the campaign will somehow take this innovation into account. Because this serious change affected everyone.

I think this does not affect the award in the bounty, organizers still do not know how difficult it is to get a rank on the forum

The merit system is not going away, so you better get used to it, also your suggestion does not make sense because what it is going to stop a person to just create another account and begin to spam with it? This is why the merit system was implemented, to limit the activities of account farmers which will eventually sell those accounts which then will be used to scam or spam.

Only signature and some airdrop require you to be a certain member rank. Other bounties will rely on what is important like follower count. You don't need to be a high rank to make money here, you just need to use your head. Not saying you not using your head I'm just saying being a high rank is not the be all and end all. People that run bounties want to know they getting good work from you and good exposure so your rank is of little concern since it only effects things within the forum and not externally like social media for example.


No.... It's meant to stop people writting crap posts. It will make account farming harder but not stop it. That's not what it's for anyway. Like I say it's for adding quality posts and if account farmers want to farm they now have to make quality posts which makes them not account farmers.

Forum founders didn't take in consideration the fact that this particular place visitors are mostly into coin speculation. Give them merit - they will speculate it. There are whole threads saying "work for merit". Post a message, of make a translation, or develop a thread. Whatever could be done. I won't say that it is unfair or smth, but the system needs a looot of
 improvement

I think it's flexible, the merit rules and reassessment of the forum policy, but there are some bounty that follows it so that every user or member of this diforum is subject to merit rules as defined by the forum if following bounty, there are some bounties that have not implemented the system so this gives good room for the good members of jr. member or full member, which on the basis of its difficult to rise ratings because of the merit system. so I think the rule holder is on the forum policy itself, on the other hand many benefits.