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This is no joke.  Some of our crypto brethren are in a very bad way these days. 

Please start here to help a friend who suffered too many losses from $20,000 to $8,900.  Help Suicide Help Suicide People (https://www.helpguide.org/articles/suicide-prevention/suicide-prevention.htm)

also call one of these hotlines \

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org
📞 800-273-TALK (8255)
📞 TTY: 800-799-4TTY (4889)

Asian American Suicide Prevention and Education
http://www.aaspe.net
📞 877-990-8585 (Cantonese, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, and Fujianese)

Boys Town Suicide and Crisis Line (for teens/parents/families)
http://www.boystown.org/national-hotline
📞 800-448-3000
Text, Chat Email: http://www.yourlifeyourvoice.org/Pages/ways-to-get-help.aspx

Lifeline Crisis Chat
http://www.crisischat.org
1:1 Online Chat: http://www.crisischat.org/chat (12:00 pm - 12:00 am EST)

Crisis Text Line
https://www.crisistextline.org/how-it-works
Text 741741
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/crisistextline

Kristin Brooks Hope Center
http://hopeline.com/
📞 1.800.SUICIDE (1-800-784-2433)
Facebook
Twitter

IMAlive Crisis Chat
https://www.imalive.org

people like this, need a religious approach
most of them are clearly not religious, because people who have a religion will never commit suicide
and the existence of an agency that deals with this, is very good
and I will report if anyone is going to commit suicide, especially after all their assets are gone because of investing in bitcoin  ;D

I understand this is a terrible thing but btc wasn't developed to make us rich. When you put money into something have an understanding of what it is. Just use caution and if u are in a bad way now use the above information

you are right, maybe those people think that Bitcoin is an alternative way to get rich quick, they misunderstand it
they boldly invest all their assets into bitcoin, and when bitcoin falls as it is then they will be depressed

Ps don't overreact to temporary situations when they are always subject to change

This is the unfortunate result of the Deep State bankers pumping Bitcoin to create debt. Debt is slavery, and they love creating slaves. There were numerous warnings all over the boards about the dangers of gambling on the price of Bitcoin. The sadness is that once they have consolidated and shaken out the vulnerable, they will be back pumping the price to create another load of debt from the euphoria.

Unfortunately when we put money we can not afford to lose it is very dangerous

why so many fools in this world, they think wealth can be in an instant way
many rich and successful people, but they do it with hard work and effort
I think they misunderstand bitcoin, they think bitcoin can make them rich in an instant
risk everything for bitcoin

It is really no joke but I did commit a sin by laughing at it for a little.

This people should've known what they are risking at. Just going with the flow thinking it will go way up like Neverland is an imaginary theory.
Bitcoin never had that kind of attack. It always goes down after a big leap up. Is it really that tiring to look at the graph of it since the start?
That tells everything you need to know about its fluctuation.

And thus continues the circle of money in life. Everything is engineered in this world to take from the poor and give to the rich, that is exactly why the poor are poor and the rich are rich. They're lured in with promises of a better life and future (who doesn't want that) and then taken advantage of. It's hard to have full sympathy for anyone who was careless with their investments and risked more than they could afford to lose but it's inevitable people will do this and I just hope that if they are struggling with their emotions right now they do call one of these numbers and realise there's more to life than a few numbers on a screen. While we may not be able to be sympathetic for their investment decisions we should be able to be sympathetic for any mental health issues they're facing as a consequence.

For anyone else that wasn't covered. Here's a fairly conclusive list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines

When people decide to trade bitcoin , they must aware that bitcoin is risky investment so the day has come !
Brace yourself guys !

When bitcoin still on hundred bucks range, the down range not too significant compare when bitcoin reach 10.000++ so yeah... I'm very doom for now !
(purchase bitcoin when $ 13.000 )

Are you guys crazy? First, if you decide for yourself that you are going to invest in bitcoin, or other crypto-currencies, then mentally must part with this money. To invest the last pennies, and then against the background of depression, trying to kill yourself is a very bad idea. Think first of all the head and not emotions and a thirst for easy profit.

Was it our fault? Of course not. If they die, sorry for them, they will not see how will bitcoin's price rise again. We chose this path with ourselves and it is also ourselves that can help us in this kind of situation. Just chill out and enjoy the dive.

they think Bitcoin is a shortcut to becoming a rich man
which they think is just a profit without thinking about the risks, can say they are too brave
while there have been many warnings about this bitcoin investment, the risk and income are the same as comparison 50:50

Suicide is never the answer to anything, even when you've ruined your life, and the life of those you care about.

Truth is, even the most ruined of lives can be picked up and lived happily and fruitfully.


I dislike seeing people mentioning religion as some sort of fix for this, as much as I dislike the attitude some have of feeling actually sorry for people who right now are in this situation. By all means, don't do anything bad to yourself, NOTHING is Worth more than your life--but DO take responsability.

Taking responsability for your mistakes is far more therapeutic than believing some vengeful psycopath god will punish you, and more helpful than anybody's words of encouragement. If you are in a situation where the value of Bitcoin is capable of affecting your life and livelihood in a significant manner, then you need to take a step back and realize where it is that you were unwise.

take notes, learn lessons. This doesn't mean you need to become afraid of everything. it means you need to learn, first of all, self-control and how to plan for disaster.

Difficult to understand that feelings when you loose everything. That's an emotional state. So people could do something bad even for 100$, that's depends on the person. Sometimes girls could cut their hands, just for regular bad guy. That's kind of crazy life. Just remember that it's only a game of numbers, today x1000, tommorrow -x1000. Play this game and have fun.

Almost all rich people have lost tons of money and even lost everything.... more then once.... sometimes a few times. Now they are rich and remain so.
Why do you think that is? They never gave up that is why. Against all the odds they stood strong and remained stubborn about wanting to succeed. You have to have thirst you have to be like a shark and hunt your prey and tear them apart. Life is tough and you have to be tougher. Never give up for you never know what is around the next corner. The fun part about life is never knowing what comes next.

What if you kill yourself and bitcoin hits $30k in 2 months and moons like crazy? Then what? You already dead so sad :( Don't be sad. Just wait and hold.
Don't sell for gods sake stop selling. Go all in!!! Make or break! If you already willing to take your life then just go all in like a beast.

Bitcoin forever!!!!

I am not even sure what to say, normally I would make a joke when a post is made about losing profits. However this is obviously not a joke, so I wont.


Don't invest what you cant afford to lose is a typical investment strategy. In cryptocurrency you have to understand it is more risky than a traditional investment. So you cant just throw all your money into it thinking you will make massive profits. Invest traditionally, and have some money saved for cryptocurrency.

They can blame only their own stupidity. They wanted BTC, they got it, and they were in a pretty good shape up until the moment that they decided to sell for fiat.
I always tend to look at it my own way. I know the value of BTC, to me its much greater than a mere $10k per coin and I won't be giving it away for that low. If people are offering $10 let them be, wait it out. The only way you can screw yourself up is by selling it for the low price that's dictated to you by the establishment. And then what? Suicide because you sold low and can't get over it?

Keep your religious stuff for your self please...

Bitcoin Rule #1 - Don't put into it what you can't lose

Bitcoin Rule #2 - Dips are temporary, sometimes dramatic but temporary, Bitcoin is eternal!

Bitcoin Rule #3 - Hodlers always win. ALWAYS!

This is a joke. OP is a well known troll that's been writing anti-bitcoin propaganda for years. Check out his previous posts, he's like a broken record.
Just an example. This is our OP in 2016 happily trolling away:



And here is our smart OP in 2014.


Clearly a sad case of a notorious train misser  ;)

do not buy more than you can afford to lose

No need for panic or suicide, just hodl. It will pass, once the FUD is over, the price will increase. This decline is carefully timed, all the bad news and rumours were spread at the same time that exchanges get hacked and robbed, governments announcing regulations or a total ban. Pump and dump groups may have planned this attack, so with the lower price the can buy massively again.

in 2013 I readon forum some stories of people died for btc losses :( what a hell, I am truly sad when I read this news, so RawDog I think your topic maybe could really help some one.

Currently, all propaganda machines are in service of the devaluation of Bitcoin. Patience is the solution!

I doubt it, I've lost money in the stock market but made it back over time, there are a lot of ways to make money.

Indeed. Banks are so discreet that the majority has been blinded from the scenes behind the curtain. People behind the banking system are manipulative, power-stricken packs of wolves in sheep’s clothings hoarding their way up on top of the food chain preying on us. And governments, are actually wolves fronting as sheeps who sets the traps. When we get caught, it is almost impossible to get out!

This system, or even the whole planet, is one big game of monopoly where the major players are from the government and the banking system (shout out to Rothschild!). And we are just pieces on the board waiting to be manipulated. A painful truth that we have to deal with.

No. Some will not commit suicde, some will die of heart attacks before they can even think of suicide. I know a friend who invested during that season when bitcoin was 20k for a hope that it going to reach 50k. Now he must be having heart attack upon seeing the graph everyday  ;D.

there are 17 million coins and awareness is growing each day, it is a mathematical fact that bitcoin will go up
You just can not be a week hand, put your coins in a drawer and forget about them then in the summer you will have a big gift and you can buy your ferrari

'a religious approach'
So you're literally saying religious people will/have never comitted suïcide. Great statement. I have a forum for you here: https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-more-atheists-commit-suicide-than-people-with-faith-in-God

Go read that, then think about your statement again.

I agree with you. Do not worry too much at this moment as the market fluctuates not only once. Use your mind to assess the market and do not let yourself be the prey of whales waiting for you to sell and buy at a very cheap price.

 ;D ;D ;D

DONT DO IT!!!!
The very moment you decide to pull the trigger.....the price will SKY ROCKET!

Crypto isn't for everybody.  You may make a lot of money fast in crypto, but it comes with a price and the price is HIGH volatility.  You need to have balls of steel, know what you are invested in, and filter through all the bullshit FUD.  Keep your eye on the prize and think longterm (1 year plus).  There are more people interested in crypto now more than ever and blockchain is getting the respect and recognition it deserves.  Cryptocurrency is here to stay.

If it makes anybody feel any better, I am 100% invested in crypto...IRA and all, and I've lost my ASS the last two days, but I'm not sweating it one bit.  This is totally normal for Bitcoin and it will recover within the next month and eventually reach a new All Time High.

Relax and enjoy the Ride!

Bitcoin has given as great hope in return of an opportunity to invest our money to, yes there are risks and we have different approach and perspective to each problems but that doesn't makes us better nor stronger to those who resort to suicide, everyone has a its own weakness and struggles in life. We are all one in supporting crypto and we should support each other too, just as the market goes up and down so does life, don't stop if you continue to struggle then good things will eventually comes along the way.

only the weak need the suicide help number, crypto is a natural selection currency, if you are weak you lose

I agree, but we cannot deny that cryptos price falls down dramatically affects our mood everyday. Like me, I don't have energy to start working and doing productive things everyday because I expected high profit with my coins but now they all gone. But, Im a still thinking positive and hoping that all of this will recover when february ends.

I fail to have any empathy or mercy for those who thought they wouldn't repeat the mistakes from the real estate crash which actually made Bitcoin in the first place.

Jump.

Thanks for posting this, people who are investing to make huge money are in a depression right now seeing how bitcoin is dropping right now I highly recommend that they stopped reading the chart Bitcoin is not a bubble and it will have its time just be patient the huge potential of bitcoin is yet to come.

It is really so depressing of having invested bitcoin at 20,000$ and watched it goes down too deep to 8,000$+ and it may even go deeper this month. I could imagine myself on that situation but no matter what, i will just hodl and never will i even plan of making a suicide.

Well, This happenning is not be prevented. Actually, This time, We treated Bitcoin as higher than money and fiats. And we are always surprise to its value. Bitcoin has been legalized in many countries and it is also can converter into money so that it is also a currency for us. Like money, Bitcoin is possible to be used in the things and situations like that.

You bought it near the top and never sold? It's depressing to even read about it! There's that saying that saying that you should never buy when people are going in like crazy and this was happening above 15000 USD. The market was full of newbies and newbies get scared easily. If you haven't sold until now keep holding. We've lost over 60% of ATH so we're pretty deep down the slope. I think we're oversold due to FUD.

I just can't understand why people put more into this than they can afford to lose. There are so many warnings not to do this everywhere. This is part of the risk of investment. I thought every investor would be aware of this. And even if you did lose everything because you put too much money into crypto then seriously dude.. why would that make you depressed? It's only money. Try meditation and come to the realization of the transient nature of all things. Our death is already certain, you should enjoy this short life that we do have, go out and explore the world and make real connections with people. You definitely don't need money to do that. It's something nice to have but if losing it is making you suicidal then you must look deeply into yourself, your life, and your priorities as such thoughts are indicative of a more serious underlying issue that has nothing to do with money. What's the solution? I already said it.. meditation and the realization of transience. You'll see how trivial and funny a thing money and all material things are then.

I'll tell you why. Because they're greedy!
If I were to explain the current situation to a new panicking investor, I'd tell him to see it as a safekeeping. You weren't satisfied with the state of your fiat money that was losing value when put into a bank account or held in the form of cash so you bought something that is going to keep growing. Something that has a booming economy behind it and something that can't be taken away from you. Something that is limited in numbers. If you have coins keep them just like people who bought at $1000 kept them when the price went down to $200 because later it went back to $20000!

Sept 11th called, you got your facts wrong

This is the worst case scenario that would ever happen if you invest a lot of money on a certain currency and you expect to profit a lot, As I always said from my previous replies on different thread, it is best to invest only the money what you afford to lose and do not expect too much from your investments. Majority of the time expectations leads to disappointments and that kind of scenario is very depressing.

Suicide is not the solution to all the problems in the world even if you lose a lot of money it is still not the solution. Life is more valuable than the money that anyone lose even if its a very huge amount. Maybe not all people can help in financial aspects in here but We can help with our inspirational words.

To all of our brothers and sisters in here who lose a lot, It is not the end of the world there is still hope as long that you're breathing.  :)

I think every investor should be aware that bitcoin is a venture capital and that you have to prepare for the loss first. If you have not gotten ready for it, try a small amount of test water.

it's not a natural selection, it's not a "loss first" market.
You are buying crypto, doesn't matter fiat value, if you are buying just crypto. If you are an avid investor, speculative one, yes this is one of the best market but it's ready to eat you and your cash in matter of hours without problem.
This is why people should invest carefully and never, repeat never, make any type of "risk" investment on a market like this.

Oh shit!!  Too late.  I knew a guy would kill himself this week.  Damn.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2885338.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2885338.0)
If only that guy read my post a few days ago.  I really tried to save him.

Please tell your other friends who aren't dead yet about this hotline information.  Bitcoin price is going to go down much further.  Will really test the frailness of some traders.  Could be more deaths soon.  Better sell fast before too much losses stack up.  

I think that's a very insensitive approach towards a very touchy subject. In some instances, people have poured their life savings into cryptos. The general hype surrounding cryptos is way more than what it was in case of the dot-com bubble also the payouts this time around are also huge. I know of many low-income groups and daily wage earners have put in their savings here in hopes of breaking out of their menial day to day jobs in order to build a better future for themselves and their family. I would understand and sympathize with the shock those kinds of people would go through; if BTC falls below $5k/$4k.

It's easy to categorize such people as weak, but all they lack is the proper opportunity. Bitcoin and cryptos, in general, presents that opportunity. A wild-card shot at dreaming for a better future. When that dream breaks. It hurts. And if anyone reading this message finds themselves in such a position, let me tell you, it will get better. This too shall pass. Learn from your mistakes and stick to your beliefs and no, you were not wrong to believe in Bitcoin - The Crypto Dream. You just have to persevere.

Stay strong and don't lose hope.

I think that committing suicide because you were dumb enough to trust in the magical creation of "money for nothing" is immature enough to rectify replies like thenachoguy's.

Some might have been greedy, but some might have just been desperate and thought of Bitcoin as a last chance. Bitcoin depreciation might have been the trigger but not the "cause" if there ever was one at all. Depression is a disease and as such it is wrong to blame the person for getting a disease like it is wrong to blame someone for getting a cold. Blaming the victim is a mental trick to reasure yourself that the same cannot happen to you. I hope it wont.

So you have NEVER made any dumb decisions in your life? If you think making dumb decisions makes it okay if you kill yourself What kind of insenstive cahoot are you?

After thousands of Bitcoiners killing themselves on 2/6/2018, God declared that day will be the lowest price of the year and made it climb to go above $10,000.

Rawdog, are you still there? I heard you survived your jump from the 2nd floor. Hahaha.

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/103/1038098/kaboom-20091023115347921-000.jpg

This is fud

I think we saved more than one person's life and all you have to say is FUD?

people who have very short thoughts, but have a very big desire.
they think that bitcoin investment is easy, can make money quickly, just need to buy and hold until the price becomes high.
no!! bitcoin is a very risky investment, you have to dare to do the speksulasi. and do not expect lucky because this is not a gambling table.
Learn first about investing. otherwise you will end up in suicide due to a loss. stupid  :-X

suicide is a foolish act, why say stupid? because there are several factors in my opinion:
1. the person who committed suicide is a weak person
2. the person who bunu himself is the person who does not want to ask about the problem in front of him
3. people who commit suicide are people who do not have a stand.