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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: FutureICOs on February 03, 2018, 02:19:29 PM



Title: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: FutureICOs on February 03, 2018, 02:19:29 PM
https://preview.ibb.co/i2r4Ym/sample01728x90_1.png

There's a brand new crypto raffle site and they are giving away some free tickets to help gain publicity and momentum. There's no purchase required and there's no catch, it's a simple raffle that will be performed by an unrelated third party on live video. This coupon code is limited to 1 per person. Coupon: 1freeticket and the site is https://bitcoinjackpot.global

Grand prize: $1,000,000
Second prize: $100,000
Third prize: $25,000
Runner-up: $1,000 x 75 winners

100,000 tickets are being sold. $20 per ticket. Pay using any crypto. Receive prizes in crypto or USD bank wire. Draw will be live streamed on YouTube by real people when every ticket is sold! If you live in Toronto and are a ticket holder you can be there at the time of draw.

It's brand new, this is Round 1 and they hope to do 4 rounds per year.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: GamerSky on February 03, 2018, 05:46:00 PM
How possible for the website to be scam? I guess it's very likely. Why? simple, they don't provide enough info about who they are, not a registered company, and most importantly if you visit their FAQ
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How does playing Bitcoin Jackpot work?
When you play Bitcoin Jackpot, you are purchasing a raffle ticket. At the time of the draw, a winning ticket(s) is selected at random using random.org which is an unrelated third party; the draw will be live streamed on YouTube (or another video streaming site) when every ticket is sold. To make things as fair as possible, the draw will be conducted on video by people who are not related to Bitcoin Jackpot.
You know there are tons of ways to hijack such 'cheap' method to pick a winner, it would have been totally different if they provided a provably fair method.

The whole thing seems sketchy to me, because I've tried to make a provably fair lottery before, just failed with marketting, and it didn't need any registeration or user information too.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: FutureICOs on February 03, 2018, 07:03:47 PM
How possible for the website to be scam? I guess it's very likely. Why? simple, they don't provide enough info about who they are, not a registered company, and most importantly if you visit their FAQ
Quote
How does playing Bitcoin Jackpot work?
When you play Bitcoin Jackpot, you are purchasing a raffle ticket. At the time of the draw, a winning ticket(s) is selected at random using random.org which is an unrelated third party; the draw will be live streamed on YouTube (or another video streaming site) when every ticket is sold. To make things as fair as possible, the draw will be conducted on video by people who are not related to Bitcoin Jackpot.
You know there are tons of ways to hijack such 'cheap' method to pick a winner, it would have been totally different if they provided a provably fair method.

The whole thing seems sketchy to me, because I've tried to make a provably fair lottery before, just failed with marketting, and it didn't need any registeration or user information too.


I think, there is not much to lose. The thing is FREE. Always better chance when you enter, as compared to when you don't.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: cryptofanatic123 on February 03, 2018, 07:58:21 PM
Hey, thanks! Just got a few tickets, wish me luck!


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 15, 2018, 03:19:05 AM
How possible for the website to be scam? I guess it's very likely. Why? simple, they don't provide enough info about who they are, not a registered company, and most importantly if you visit their FAQ
Quote
How does playing Bitcoin Jackpot work?
When you play Bitcoin Jackpot, you are purchasing a raffle ticket. At the time of the draw, a winning ticket(s) is selected at random using random.org which is an unrelated third party; the draw will be live streamed on YouTube (or another video streaming site) when every ticket is sold. To make things as fair as possible, the draw will be conducted on video by people who are not related to Bitcoin Jackpot.
You know there are tons of ways to hijack such 'cheap' method to pick a winner, it would have been totally different if they provided a provably fair method.

The whole thing seems sketchy to me, because I've tried to make a provably fair lottery before, just failed with marketting, and it didn't need any registeration or user information too.


Hey GamerSky,

I'm one of the members involved in bitcoinjackpot.global (you can check out my bio on the website). We just started the raffle this month, so the site is being modified as we get feedback from people. Feel free to check out the site now as we have added the information that you have asked for, i.e., who we are (on the main page).

We didn't see the need for a complicated algorithm to have a provably fair method because it's just a simple raffle. We wanted to be as simple and transparent as possible, so we decided that once someone buys a ticket, they get a number between 1 and 100000 (which is given in sequential order based on when someone buys a ticket). Once all tickets are sold, the draw will be live streamed, once again, making the procedure transparent to everyone. Random.org is also third party, so there is no way we would be able to influence the outcome of the draw.

We also have a hassle-free registration process to only collect an e-mail id for the purpose of sending the ticket number; we don't collect any other user information that is intrusive. And I agree, marketing is a challenge. By the way, apologies for the late response; I didn't see this thread earlier. Thanks for the feedback.

Regards,
CryptoEbe



Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Kleo-kripto on February 15, 2018, 07:14:37 AM
Even if this is not fraud, the probability of winning is very small. Who wants to take a chance, who will turn up fortune, maybe he will, but I do not want to risk, so I pass by.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Kleo-kripto on February 15, 2018, 07:19:53 AM
https://preview.ibb.co/i2r4Ym/sample01728x90_1.png

There's a brand new crypto raffle site and they are giving away some free tickets to help gain publicity and momentum. There's no purchase required and there's no catch, it's a simple raffle that will be performed by an unrelated third party on live video. This coupon code is limited to 1 per person. Coupon: 1freeticket and the site is https://bitcoinjackpot.global

Grand prize: $1,000,000
Second prize: $100,000
Third prize: $25,000
Runner-up: $1,000 x 75 winners

100,000 tickets are being sold. $20 per ticket. Pay using any crypto. Receive prizes in crypto or USD bank wire. Draw will be live streamed on YouTube by real people when every ticket is sold! If you live in Toronto and are a ticket holder you can be there at the time of draw.

It's brand new, this is Round 1 and they hope to do 4 rounds per year.

You have written in the title - free admission. But in fact you need to buy a ticket for $ 20. This is at least misleading.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: NorrisK on February 15, 2018, 07:22:41 AM
May I ask who is holding the funds? I guess the goal is to raise more money then is being given away, which is quite a lot for a new service.

Using a multisig wallet with an escrow that needs to sign off would give a lot more trust I guess.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 15, 2018, 02:41:09 PM
Even if this is not fraud, the probability of winning is very small. Who wants to take a chance, who will turn up fortune, maybe he will, but I do not want to risk, so I pass by.
https://preview.ibb.co/i2r4Ym/sample01728x90_1.png

There's a brand new crypto raffle site and they are giving away some free tickets to help gain publicity and momentum. There's no purchase required and there's no catch, it's a simple raffle that will be performed by an unrelated third party on live video. This coupon code is limited to 1 per person. Coupon: 1freeticket and the site is https://bitcoinjackpot.global

Grand prize: $1,000,000
Second prize: $100,000
Third prize: $25,000
Runner-up: $1,000 x 75 winners

100,000 tickets are being sold. $20 per ticket. Pay using any crypto. Receive prizes in crypto or USD bank wire. Draw will be live streamed on YouTube by real people when every ticket is sold! If you live in Toronto and are a ticket holder you can be there at the time of draw.

It's brand new, this is Round 1 and they hope to do 4 rounds per year.

You have written in the title - free admission. But in fact you need to buy a ticket for $ 20. This is at least misleading.

Hey Kleo,

We are currently giving out a limited number of free tickets as a marketing strategy to help gain publicity and momentum. So, the ticket that is worth $20 is actually free for now and your risk is currently zero. There's no purchase required for now, unless you want to increase your chances of winning and need more than 1 ticket. We are hoping that once people get tickets, they promote it within their circle leading to more people obtaining tickets and so on. If you have any more questions, feel free to reply back. Thanks.

Regards,
CryptoEbe


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 15, 2018, 02:52:22 PM
May I ask who is holding the funds? I guess the goal is to raise more money then is being given away, which is quite a lot for a new service.

Using a multisig wallet with an escrow that needs to sign off would give a lot more trust I guess.

Hey Norris,

Yes, you're right. Our goal is to raise more money than is being given away. The majority is paid out to prize winners; the rest goes into marketing (higher for round 1 because we are just gaining publicity), merchant fees, accounting, etc. to maintain the service and website. We also end up with a profit on which we pay income tax, and also allocate a portion of it to fund crypto related science (more info on this in the FAQ section). We are not currently using an escrow, but it does sound like a good idea and might consider it in the future. Thanks, and if you have any questions or feedback, don't hesitate to reach back.

Regards,
CryptoEbe


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: pragna on February 15, 2018, 05:12:59 PM
How could i believe this site ?. There is no authentication. It looks fear to me.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 16, 2018, 05:21:49 PM
Hey, thanks! Just got a few tickets, wish me luck!

Good luck :)

How could i believe this site ?. There is no authentication. It looks fear to me.

Well, I hope it was not our members' photos on our website that scared you  :P


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: newfan on February 16, 2018, 05:30:35 PM
Hey, thanks! Just got a few tickets, wish me luck!

Good luck :)

How could i believe this site ?. There is no authentication. It looks fear to me.

Well, I hope it was not our members' photos on our website that scared you  :P

haha the struggle to sell FREE ticket. people are scared of winning the raffle with a free ticket? i will gladly take free chance XD


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 16, 2018, 06:11:03 PM
How could i believe this site ?. There is no authentication. It looks fear to me.

Well, I hope it was not our members' photos on our website that scared you  :P

haha the struggle to sell FREE ticket. people are scared of winning the raffle with a free ticket? i will gladly take free chance XD

Yes, it's definitely a challenge because we are brand new, but we know this is a phase that all start-ups go through and our team is ready for this challenge. And good luck with your ticket  :)


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Tylerizator on February 16, 2018, 07:05:19 PM
Scam! Info 146%!


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Moonmanmun on February 16, 2018, 07:38:42 PM
Come on guys, this is clearly a scam. 
They sort of messed up with this post:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874667.msg29545770#msg29545770
If you want to be a scammer, try not to make it that obvious.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: seven2smoke1 on February 16, 2018, 07:48:49 PM
May I ask who is holding the funds? I guess the goal is to raise more money then is being given away, which is quite a lot for a new service.

Using a multisig wallet with an escrow that needs to sign off would give a lot more trust I guess.
I don't think they already have this amount of money to escrow it. I thought their strategy was to collect this money using people who buy tickets, They already said on the website: "Draw will happen when 100,000 tickets are sold." So people should wait until all tickets are sold and then they will have 2 Million dollars (100,000*20$). So in the final point if they pay the winners, they will end up earning a huge amount.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoJoshua on February 17, 2018, 07:21:54 PM
Come on guys, this is clearly a scam. 
They sort of messed up with this post:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874667.msg29545770#msg29545770
If you want to be a scammer, try not to make it that obvious.

Hey Moon!

The only people who are part of our team are listed on our main page at bitcoinjackpot.global (http://bitcoinjackpot.global), so whoever made that post is not on our team. Every team member's Bitcointalk or Reddit profiles are linked on our site as well. I, myself, am part of the Bitcoin Jackpot team, so if you have any concerns, please let me know.

Regards,
CryptoJoshua


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoJoshua on February 17, 2018, 07:30:14 PM
May I ask who is holding the funds? I guess the goal is to raise more money then is being given away, which is quite a lot for a new service.

Using a multisig wallet with an escrow that needs to sign off would give a lot more trust I guess.
I don't think they already have this amount of money to escrow it. I thought their strategy was to collect this money using people who buy tickets, They already said on the website: "Draw will happen when 100,000 tickets are sold." So people should wait until all tickets are sold and then they will have 2 Million dollars (100,000*20$). So in the final point if they pay the winners, they will end up earning a huge amount.

Hey Seven!

I'm part of the Bitcoin Jackpot team.


I don't think they already have this amount of money to escrow it. I thought their strategy was to collect this money using people who buy tickets, They already said on the website: "Draw will happen when 100,000 tickets are sold." So people should wait until all tickets are sold and then they will have 2 Million dollars (100,000*20$).

Thanks for addressing his concerns and understanding the structure of our raffle.  :D

So in the final point if they pay the winners, they will end up earning a huge amount.

Here is a section from our FAQ which discusses how we will be distributing the money that is not given out as prizes:

"Most of the money received from the raffle is paid out to prize winners. Then we have small expenses such as merchant fees, publicity, accounting, etc., to maintain the website and service. We end up with a profit, we pay income taxes and a portion of all the money supports crypto related sciences, specifically organizations that are developing improvements to the way the whole crypto ecosystem works. This will include government lobbying and advocacy which is important if we want to achieve worldwide adoption without interference or hindrance."

Thanks for the message!



Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 17, 2018, 07:47:14 PM
Come on guys, this is clearly a scam. 
They sort of messed up with this post:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874667.msg29545770#msg29545770
If you want to be a scammer, try not to make it that obvious.

Hey Moon!

The only people who are part of our team are listed on our main page at bitcoinjackpot.global (http://bitcoinjackpot.global), so whoever made that post is not on our team. Every team member's Bitcointalk or Reddit profiles are linked on our site as well. I, myself, am part of the Bitcoin Jackpot team, so if you have any concerns, please let me know.

Regards,
CryptoJoshua


And to add to CryptoJoshua, our members were only aware of this thread like 3 days back, so we only started responding recently here. This thread was created much earlier by one of our fans, so it looks like someone was really excited in promoting us that they went through that step.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: MinerHQ on February 17, 2018, 11:59:19 PM
May I ask who is holding the funds? I guess the goal is to raise more money then is being given away, which is quite a lot for a new service.

Using a multisig wallet with an escrow that needs to sign off would give a lot more trust I guess.

CryptoEbe - May I know why you ignored the above question to answer?

It is a valid question and it is quite a huge amount why can't you choose some trusted members as an escrow for the funds? If you do that then you may find many real ticket buyers otherwise you need to struggle even to sell free tickets because I don't want to waste my ticket to register an account and to claim that free ticket when I'm not confident about your system.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 18, 2018, 09:57:36 PM
May I ask who is holding the funds? I guess the goal is to raise more money then is being given away, which is quite a lot for a new service.

Using a multisig wallet with an escrow that needs to sign off would give a lot more trust I guess.

CryptoEbe - May I know why you ignored the above question to answer?

It is a valid question and it is quite a huge amount why can't you choose some trusted members as an escrow for the funds? If you do that then you may find many real ticket buyers otherwise you need to struggle even to sell free tickets because I don't want to waste my ticket to register an account and to claim that free ticket when I'm not confident about your system.

Hey Miner,
It was addressed in my response to Norris towards the end of the paragraph. You may have missed it.


May I ask who is holding the funds? I guess the goal is to raise more money then is being given away, which is quite a lot for a new service.

Using a multisig wallet with an escrow that needs to sign off would give a lot more trust I guess.

Hey Norris,

Yes, you're right. Our goal is to raise more money than is being given away. The majority is paid out to prize winners; the rest goes into marketing (higher for round 1 because we are just gaining publicity), merchant fees, accounting, etc. to maintain the service and website. We also end up with a profit on which we pay income tax, and also allocate a portion of it to fund crypto related science (more info on this in the FAQ section). We are not currently using an escrow, but it does sound like a good idea and might consider it in the future. Thanks, and if you have any questions or feedback, don't hesitate to reach back.

Regards,
CryptoEbe



Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: MinerHQ on February 19, 2018, 04:22:49 AM

Hey Miner,
It was addressed in my response to Norris towards the end of the paragraph. You may have missed it.


Hey Norris,

We are not currently using an escrow, but it does sound like a good idea and might consider it in the future.


Thanks for the clarification.

For a new site to attract more people it is a good idea to use an escrow instead of thinking about it in future otherwise very difficult for you to find a real ticket buyer. If you're really serious to success in this business then consider using escrow option soon.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Minus7point5 on February 19, 2018, 07:40:16 AM
You're giving away $1,000,000 and it's free?  This is a super expensive promotion, if that's what you wish to call it


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Bitinity on February 19, 2018, 09:20:27 AM
Oh wow, now this site have a advertisement at coinmarketcap https://prnt.sc/igqpy6 and claims as the best crypto raffle. Is this joke? Best in what case if you do not mind to tell us here? Provably fair-NO, Escrow-NO, House take too much fee-YES?? Is it what you call by best?


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoJoshua on February 19, 2018, 05:27:30 PM
You're giving away $1,000,000 and it's free?  This is a super expensive promotion, if that's what you wish to call it

Hey Minus!

I'm one of the Bitcoin Jackpot team members.

We are giving a select number of tickets for free in order to gain publicity and momentum. If you have any other concerns, feel free to ask.
;)


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoJoshua on February 19, 2018, 05:32:43 PM
Oh wow, now this site have a advertisement at coinmarketcap https://prnt.sc/igqpy6 and claims as the best crypto raffle. Is this joke? Best in what case if you do not mind to tell us here? Provably fair-NO, Escrow-NO, House take too much fee-YES?? Is it what you call by best?

Yes, looks like that's one of our banner ads. "World's Best Crypto Raffle" is not a claim, it's our tagline and our goal. We want to be the world's best raffle. If you know of a better raffle, please show me the website so we can improve our raffle.

It is provably fair, and you are right, there is no escrow. The house takes a very fair amount compared to other raffles.

It doesn't sound like this raffle is for you, but I really appreciate you looking at the website and I really appreciate your feedback because it helps me to improve the site.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: A Confused Shoe on February 20, 2018, 12:09:40 AM
When will the raffle actually take place? What if you guys never sell enough tickets...what will happen to all the people who already bought tickets then?


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoJoshua on February 20, 2018, 12:38:25 AM
When will the raffle actually take place? What if you guys never sell enough tickets...what will happen to all the people who already bought tickets then?

Hey friend!

There is no definite date that the raffle will take place because just like any raffle, all tickets must be sold in order for the raffle to take place. We will eventually sell enough tickets. To keep our current buyers interested, we are planning to arrange small raffles along the way (more details about this will be released on our site). For example, once we reach the 250 ticket mark (which we are planning to reach this week), we are planning to have a small LTC draw.

Adding on to that, recently, we have added an affiliate program which we believe will be a great success and push us far. If you are interested, you can find the affiliate sign up link in the footer of our site.

Thanks for the message!


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: MinerHQ on February 20, 2018, 03:34:21 AM
Hello everyone,

This is CryptoEbe from Bitcoin Jackpot with some exciting news about our new affiliate program. By working with us, you could receive a generous recurring commission for promoting our raffle tickets. Actually, you might make more commissions with us than with other programs.

We will pay you $5 USD for each ticket sale. For example, if you send 5000 paid sales, your payment would be $25,000 USD. Also, if those same customers buy again in future rounds, you'll get another $2 USD per sale for doing nothing. We're trying to bring some fun into the crypto community and we really hope to work with you.

Here's our website for you to check out: www.bitcoinjackpot.global (http://www.bitcoinjackpot.global) and the affiliate sign up is in the footer. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks.

Let's work together,
CryptoEbe


If you don't use an escrow then no one is going to believe what you're saying here because if you close the site after some time then whoever promoted your site to bring referrals also will be part of this scam. So I don't want to promote your site for those small bucks.

You better make a fast decision to use an escrow to secure your funds to get more buyers.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Bitinity on February 20, 2018, 07:35:09 AM
It is provably fair,

How could you say it is provably fair if there is no ways to verify the draw, you will use random.org only with a live streaming draw. That's not a provably fair system as long as I understand. Why? Live streaming can be faked as well as the draw by random.org
Come on, offering such big prize with not cheap ticket should have a better process on the drawing.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: SELENA703 on February 20, 2018, 03:47:05 PM
Hello there. so as the question suggests, there's a brand new crypto raffle site and they are giving away some free tickets to help gain publicity and momentum...there's no purchase required and there's no catch, it's a simple raffle that will be performed by an unrelated third party on live video. This coupon code is limited to 1 per person...Even if this is not fraud, the probability of winning is very small. Who wants to take a chance, who will turn up the fortune, maybe he will, but I do not want to risk, so I pass by..


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 20, 2018, 05:22:17 PM

If you don't use an escrow then no one is going to believe what you're saying here because if you close the site after some time then whoever promoted your site to bring referrals also will be part of this scam. So I don't want to promote your site for those small bucks.

You better make a fast decision to use an escrow to secure your funds to get more buyers.

Hey Miner,

Just as with any feedback that we get from others, we need to weigh the pros and cons before implementing it. We started this raffle just this month, and decisions like this takes time; so this is currently still in discussion among our team. In my opinion (not my team decision), I am not for escrow idea because of the following reasons.

From my research on other raffles, like Princess Margaret Lotto for example, when they get let's say 10% of the revenue in their bank, they begin to spend it on advertising and operating costs. So right now, it's a working business model vs escrow which isn't used in raffles that I know of. Keep in mind that Satoshi Dice and other big risk formats don't have escrow too. None of the big bitcoin casinos have that (correct me if I am wrong). Moreover, you need to be wary even if someone uses escrow because there are scams there too (https://blockonomi.com/erc-20-token-guide/#Watch_Out_Scammers_Can_Make_ERC-20_Tokens_Too). Also, what if our escrow provider goes under and our funds are tied up? Then all our efforts would be ruined as well because of someone else.

Also, since this is round 1, we are using most of our profits to promote our raffle. For example, you already know about our affiliate program and our banner advertisements in various sites; you also know about our free tickets given out initially and we are also planning to have multiple smaller draws along the way, so our overhead cost is huge for round 1 Another problem with the crypto world, since we are accepting only crypto payments, what if we have our escrow funds in BTC, but BTC crashes and we have to pay $1,200,000 USD in prizes? I doubt escrow would give us the flexibility to transfer a portion to stable fiat money and to use our revenue towards promotions. Once again, this is only my personal opinion and this does not reflect a final decision from my team as we are still debating on using an escrow.

Regards,
CryptoEbe


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 20, 2018, 05:35:55 PM
It is provably fair,

How could you say it is provably fair if there is no ways to verify the draw, you will use random.org only with a live streaming draw. That's not a provably fair system as long as I understand. Why? Live streaming can be faked as well as the draw by random.org
Come on, offering such big prize with not cheap ticket should have a better process on the drawing.

Hey Bitinity,

We are going to let a third party do the draw. We are planning to get the people from random.org themselves (if possible, or someone well known) to do the draw, but we will not do the draw ourselves. Would you rather have the people who made the raffle come up with a process to draw (more chances of manipulating the draw) instead of a completely unrelated third party (that is also well established)? Do you think random.org is not fair in choosing its random numbers? If you have concerns about how random.org chooses random numbers, check out their FAQ page as they have tons of information. Thanks.

Regards,
CryptoEbe


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Oilacris on February 20, 2018, 08:39:46 PM
It is provably fair,

How could you say it is provably fair if there is no ways to verify the draw, you will use random.org only with a live streaming draw. That's not a provably fair system as long as I understand. Why? Live streaming can be faked as well as the draw by random.org
Come on, offering such big prize with not cheap ticket should have a better process on the drawing.

Hey Bitinity,

We are going to let a third party do the draw. We are planning to get the people from random.org themselves (if possible, or someone well known) to do the draw, but we will not do the draw ourselves. Would you rather have the people who made the raffle come up with a process to draw (more chances of manipulating the draw) instead of a completely unrelated third party (that is also well established)? Do you think random.org is not fair in choosing its random numbers? If you have concerns about how random.org chooses random numbers, check out their FAQ page as they have tons of information. Thanks.

Regards,
CryptoEbe

For a big jackpot like this then using random.org isn't really not good at all or more appealing from a potential player.Even though you will say about manipulative draw which is really possible maybe choose another way on drawing out like live draws but  well it doesn't matter at all because you wont really hit up that ticket sales for sure.Its too big to accumulate such thing and its not really convincing about into its terms.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Bitinity on February 21, 2018, 06:35:31 AM
It is provably fair,

How could you say it is provably fair if there is no ways to verify the draw, you will use random.org only with a live streaming draw. That's not a provably fair system as long as I understand. Why? Live streaming can be faked as well as the draw by random.org
Come on, offering such big prize with not cheap ticket should have a better process on the drawing.

Hey Bitinity,

We are going to let a third party do the draw. We are planning to get the people from random.org themselves (if possible, or someone well known) to do the draw, but we will not do the draw ourselves. Would you rather have the people who made the raffle come up with a process to draw (more chances of manipulating the draw) instead of a completely unrelated third party (that is also well established)? Do you think random.org is not fair in choosing its random numbers? If you have concerns about how random.org chooses random numbers, check out their FAQ page as they have tons of information. Thanks.

Regards,
CryptoEbe

For a big jackpot like this then using random.org isn't really not good at all or more appealing from a potential player.Even though you will say about manipulative draw which is really possible maybe choose another way on drawing out like live draws but  well it doesn't matter at all because you wont really hit up that ticket sales for sure.Its too big to accumulate such thing and its not really convincing about into its terms.

I think we should not argue further about it, I realize that it is useless for us to suggest them to make their site looks better. They thinks that they have the best system already, they do not want to hear any feedback from the community and will just stay at what they have planned.
I'm out, and good luck for the site owner to find real buyers and good luck for the real buyers if they trust this site.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: MinerHQ on February 21, 2018, 08:36:54 AM

So right now, it's a working business model vs escrow which isn't used in raffles that I know of. Keep in mind that Satoshi Dice and other big risk formats don't have escrow too. None of the big bitcoin casinos have that (correct me if I am wrong).

If your site is already trusted from this community then no need have an escrow and that part I completely agree. But do you think your site and you trusted members on this forum?

Whatever is your explanation for not using escrow investments are better compared to investing on new site.



From my research on other raffles, like Princess Margaret Lotto for example, when they get let's say 10% of the revenue in their bank, they begin to spend it on advertising and operating costs.

If you start using your 10% and if you don't reach your target then what happens to the funds you already raised?


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Moonmanmun on February 22, 2018, 02:31:17 AM
Come on guys, this is clearly a scam. 
They sort of messed up with this post:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874667.msg29545770#msg29545770
If you want to be a scammer, try not to make it that obvious.

Hey Moon!

The only people who are part of our team are listed on our main page at bitcoinjackpot.global (http://bitcoinjackpot.global), so whoever made that post is not on our team. Every team member's Bitcointalk or Reddit profiles are linked on our site as well. I, myself, am part of the Bitcoin Jackpot team, so if you have any concerns, please let me know.

Regards,
CryptoJoshua


LOL at your website.  I don't see any Bitcointalk or Reddit profiles.

After watching these videos, I am 100% sold  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdZyUv-yY7c&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec_IUgghoe8&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp85bnxAnos&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE8JR6JGejc&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KWCq60GqTk&feature=youtu.be

How much did you pay these people to record a 10 second video clip?



Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 22, 2018, 09:15:41 PM
It is provably fair,

How could you say it is provably fair if there is no ways to verify the draw, you will use random.org only with a live streaming draw. That's not a provably fair system as long as I understand. Why? Live streaming can be faked as well as the draw by random.org
Come on, offering such big prize with not cheap ticket should have a better process on the drawing.

Hey Bitinity,

We are going to let a third party do the draw. We are planning to get the people from random.org themselves (if possible, or someone well known) to do the draw, but we will not do the draw ourselves. Would you rather have the people who made the raffle come up with a process to draw (more chances of manipulating the draw) instead of a completely unrelated third party (that is also well established)? Do you think random.org is not fair in choosing its random numbers? If you have concerns about how random.org chooses random numbers, check out their FAQ page as they have tons of information. Thanks.

Regards,
CryptoEbe

For a big jackpot like this then using random.org isn't really not good at all or more appealing from a potential player.Even though you will say about manipulative draw which is really possible maybe choose another way on drawing out like live draws but  well it doesn't matter at all because you wont really hit up that ticket sales for sure.Its too big to accumulate such thing and its not really convincing about into its terms.

Hey Oilacris,

Alright, what is your suggestion to do the draw? We thought using random.org, which uses atmospheric noise to generate truly random numbers would be fair enough; the atmosphere also cannot be hacked, but we may have dropped the ball here. When we get people from random.org to do the draw, they also release the results on their site with a timestamp. Someone suggested https://www.randompicker.com/, which also seems to be a good site, but definitely not as established as random.org; what are you thoughts on that?

Regards,
CryptoEbe


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 22, 2018, 09:21:09 PM
I think we should not argue further about it, I realize that it is useless for us to suggest them to make their site looks better. They thinks that they have the best system already, they do not want to hear any feedback from the community and will just stay at what they have planned.
I'm out, and good luck for the site owner to find real buyers and good luck for the real buyers if they trust this site.


We have plans to upgrade the site; thanks for the suggestion.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Flagship11 on February 22, 2018, 09:21:49 PM
This is such a scam I really have nothing else to say.   Other than I hope people don't send them money.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 22, 2018, 09:25:47 PM

So right now, it's a working business model vs escrow which isn't used in raffles that I know of. Keep in mind that Satoshi Dice and other big risk formats don't have escrow too. None of the big bitcoin casinos have that (correct me if I am wrong).

If your site is already trusted from this community then no need have an escrow and that part I completely agree. But do you think your site and you trusted members on this forum?

Whatever is your explanation for not using escrow investments are better compared to investing on new site.



From my research on other raffles, like Princess Margaret Lotto for example, when they get let's say 10% of the revenue in their bank, they begin to spend it on advertising and operating costs.

If you start using your 10% and if you don't reach your target then what happens to the funds you already raised?

I agree with your suggestion about investing on our site; we have planned to do this. But, what do you mean we start using 10% and we don't reach target? Do you mean, we don't sell all our tickets? Or do you mean, we fail to raise $1.2M because we over spent on operating costs?


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: CryptoEbe on February 22, 2018, 09:30:48 PM
Come on guys, this is clearly a scam.  
They sort of messed up with this post:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874667.msg29545770#msg29545770
If you want to be a scammer, try not to make it that obvious.

Hey Moon!

The only people who are part of our team are listed on our main page at bitcoinjackpot.global (http://bitcoinjackpot.global), so whoever made that post is not on our team. Every team member's Bitcointalk or Reddit profiles are linked on our site as well. I, myself, am part of the Bitcoin Jackpot team, so if you have any concerns, please let me know.

Regards,
CryptoJoshua


LOL at your website.  I don't see any Bitcointalk or Reddit profiles.

After watching these videos, I am 100% sold  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdZyUv-yY7c&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec_IUgghoe8&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp85bnxAnos&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE8JR6JGejc&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KWCq60GqTk&feature=youtu.be

How much did you pay these people to record a 10 second video clip?



The BitcoinTalk and Reddit profiles are listed under my profile picture, and 2 other members. Take a closer look.

These teens are our interns as described on their bios and actually we've known each other for years; they will all be at the live draw. They are helping with various other tasks instead of being active on forums, which is why they don't have Bitcointalk or Reddit profiles.



Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: TwitchySeal on March 14, 2018, 05:13:57 PM
When do you expect to have 100,000 tickets sold?

Looks like about 250 have been sold since early Feb and I'm guessing most of them were free tickets.

At this rate it will take you ~50-60 years.

The much more likely outcome is you'll get tired of promoting it and the whole thing will just fizzle out over next couple months and you guys will disappear.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: tanvir232 on March 13, 2019, 11:16:31 AM
There are many gambling scam sites in the world,i think its too.because its not easy to gave a huge amount of coin.By the way how could i believe this sites.have you any clue?   :)


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Mometaskers on March 16, 2019, 03:42:16 AM
May I ask who is holding the funds? I guess the goal is to raise more money then is being given away, which is quite a lot for a new service.

Using a multisig wallet with an escrow that needs to sign off would give a lot more trust I guess.

Guess that really is the intention. OP did mention the raffle will be held after all tickets are sold. Provided they do pay up when they've collected it all, I don't see a problem.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: omonuyak on March 16, 2019, 11:34:59 AM
This is such a scam I really have nothing else to say.   Other than I hope people don't send them money.
The level of scamming activities on this cryptocurrencies gambling sites is increasing by day.  Could you imagining what this op thought an brought out.  This is a really scam site and I hope people are not sending bitcoin there.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: panjul07 on March 16, 2019, 11:49:00 AM
This is such a scam I really have nothing else to say.   Other than I hope people don't send them money.
The level of scamming activities on this cryptocurrencies gambling sites is increasing by day.  Could you imagining what this op thought an brought out.  This is a really scam site and I hope people are not sending bitcoin there.

The site is not even working here, so no one will be to send any btc to this suspicious project. Maybe the owner realized that his effort is useless so he decided to shut the site down. Of course we should he careful as he may come back with a new site as well as with new account. Always double check if there is something suspicious.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: kingpin4321 on March 16, 2019, 04:21:26 PM
With the numerous suspicion this thread is already creating it's little left to wonder that this might not be a legit deal.
Although I would still check the site to see for my self


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Catmurs on March 24, 2019, 05:59:24 PM
I think the red trust the Creator of the theme undermines the confidence to invest in this project and to play , I think you need at faster take their money from such sites !


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: nakamura12 on March 24, 2019, 07:13:23 PM
I don't believe that there is a site that start an event called jackpot that has a prize of $1M that the participants can win without having to register. I do believe that there is an event like this with the same name of the event/contest which is the same as jackpot but the highest reward is $30000 in all instead of having $1M as the reward for the winner.


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: tv1967 on March 17, 2020, 08:41:07 AM
How possible for the website to be scam? I guess it's very likely. Why? simple, they don't provide enough info about who they are, not a registered company, and most importantly if you visit their FAQ


Title: Re: Win $1,000,000 USD - FREE ENTRY!
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on March 17, 2020, 12:13:59 PM
How possible for the website to be scam? I guess it's very likely. Why? simple, they don't provide enough info about who they are, not a registered company, and most importantly if you visit their FAQ
But the website has been offline for a while now and the domain is up for sale. It was obviously scam which didn't work out for the asshole behind the site.
https://i.imgur.com/QtAWQv6.png