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Title: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: kodokbuduk on February 05, 2018, 03:19:17 AM Just released from chinese website, what is this? V9? bitcoin miner?
Chip: 135, BM1580 Watt: 1027 Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: leowonderful on February 05, 2018, 03:22:45 AM Yep, 4Th at ~1000W shipping April to May for around $335 USD. I'd be interested in one of these if they brought em to the US site. Apparently 80% will be shipped April and 20% in May.
On a side note, I haven't seen a miner sell for this cheap in a very long time from Bitmain. Seems to be a simple S7 underclock and they're trying to dump their existing miners. Link: https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020180205085836862oAuXwgTa0710#1353 Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: kodokbuduk on February 05, 2018, 03:25:55 AM Yep, 4Th at ~1000W shipping April to May for around $335 USD. I'd be interested in one of these if they brought em to the US site. Apparently 80% will be shipped April and 20% in May. Link: https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020180205085836862oAuXwgTa0710#1353 WOW.. this is S7 underclock. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: leowonderful on February 05, 2018, 03:28:11 AM Yep, 4Th at ~1000W shipping April to May for around $335 USD. I'd be interested in one of these if they brought em to the US site. Apparently 80% will be shipped April and 20% in May. Link: https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020180205085836862oAuXwgTa0710#1353 WOW.. this is S7 underclock. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sidehack on February 05, 2018, 03:39:19 AM S7 at 4TH for 1000W? Huh, that sounds oddly familiar. Wonder where they got the idea.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: dlezama on February 05, 2018, 05:53:43 AM Looks like bitmain is cleaning house. I wonder if they're just shutting down mining at least in China, making room for new technology, or what.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Kapz786 on February 05, 2018, 07:15:23 AM Link no longer works?
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on February 05, 2018, 07:29:50 AM Link no longer works? You need to be at the Chinese webshop for the link to work properly. Those specifications are quite unclear. ??? BM1580 chip? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Kapz786 on February 05, 2018, 07:36:15 AM Link no longer works? You need to be at the Chinese webshop for the link to work properly. Those specifications are quite unclear. ??? BM1580 chip? Thanks got it now. Wonder if it till pop up on the ENG webpage soon Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: David2201 on February 05, 2018, 11:29:17 AM Eastshore.xyz currently has them listed.
$599 for March $499 for April Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: djgorilla on February 05, 2018, 06:21:22 PM Seriously who will buy such a crap?
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: rifleman74 on February 05, 2018, 07:02:19 PM Seriously who will buy such a crap? Anyone who is for some reason looking at buying an s7 on ebay/amazon...that's about it. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: jekecoin on February 05, 2018, 07:34:51 PM Seriously who will buy such a crap? Anyone who is for some reason looking at buying an s7 on ebay/amazon...that's about it. Or someone that don't have 2k$ and need a heater space Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: mannyg on February 07, 2018, 04:44:06 AM S7 at 4TH for 1000W? Huh, that sounds oddly familiar. Wonder where they got the idea. I know, right? Now if they would only push it to 4.3TH at just under 1100w, then they might be on to something! ;D ;) Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sidehack on February 07, 2018, 04:55:05 AM You know, I've still got one of those 3.7TH/900W ones running around. Some
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Sitarow on February 07, 2018, 08:13:50 AM Looks like bitmain is cleaning house. I wonder if they're just shutting down mining at least in China, making room for new technology, or what. I think we are about to get new hardware with far better performance. J/gh Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: D1NG0 on February 07, 2018, 08:26:05 AM It is out on the Bitmain site for March shipping
https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201802051016159150g4OS2hk0661 Unit price: $345 and MOQ: 5 Meaning you spend $1725 individually. Of course, there's no information on the new chip's reliability or performance. But if we are to believe their stats, one 5 quantity batch would produce more hashrate combined and is cheaper than a single S9, albeit the tremendous noise and electricity guzzling. Meh, I would say to wait for the S9 fire sale when the newer, efficient one is released (will Samsung get to it) and you can't afford/risk it. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: AerialGopher on February 07, 2018, 09:27:14 AM Umm, has anyone actually read bitmains page on this.. no where does it state what algo it does... so where did people come up with that sha256?
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: thedue on February 07, 2018, 09:31:03 AM Umm, has anyone actually read bitmains page on this.. no where does it state what algo it does... so where did people come up with that sha256? I guess they know what they´re selling.. so this is Sha256 and that means... crap ;D https://www.eastshore.xyz/shop/antminer-v9-bitcoin-miner-16nm-asic-miner/ Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: castiel0504 on February 07, 2018, 09:33:40 AM You can find miner here: https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020180202105823805HM8v8gSy069D
Its located on Chinese web page. But there is no written which algorithm is. Bitmain announced on twitter that they are selling Bitcoin Miner(mentioned one) here: http://prntscr.com/ibac3c https://twitter.com/BITMAINtech/status/961166562118975488 Since its "Bitcoin Miner" you can use your brain and conclude that its Algorithm is SHA256. But those number TBH look pretty heave...5KW for 20TH...pricey... Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: AerialGopher on February 07, 2018, 09:36:31 AM You can find miner here: https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020180202105823805HM8v8gSy069D Its located on Chinese web page. But there is no written which algorithm is. Bitmain announced on twitter that they are selling Bitcoin Miner(mentioned one) here: http://prntscr.com/ibac3c https://twitter.com/BITMAINtech/status/961166562118975488 Since its "Bitcoin Miner" you can use your brain and conclude that its Algorithm is SHA256. But those number TBH look pretty heave...5KW for 20TH...pricey... Ok, I just got an email, cliked on the link, read specs, and was like WTF.. whats it do? Just a simple mention of SHA256 is all that is needed, the A3 has Bake2b on its spec page... So essentially they are dumping junk... NICE! There will be suckers that buy these. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: castiel0504 on February 07, 2018, 09:39:03 AM Yep i got that one as well. http://prntscr.com/ibaf6o
Only if price order is not "Minimum order of five" it would be good. For new people that want to test how mining works for low price. But since its 5... Meh... Its only good for redistributors.. Code: Dear user, Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on February 07, 2018, 09:40:05 AM This V9 miner is actually most likely just a S7 underclocked & undervolted..
Back in the 2016 I tweaked a S7 to perform 4.2Th/s at 1066W (at wall) power consumption by using methods in this guide provided by sidehack. Link to the guide thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1504228.msg16258852#msg16258852 I used one these hex files with PICkit3 for undervolting and underclocking a S7, batch 9 and everything went smooth. I sold that miner but I'm going to do the same thing again soon to a S7 when the S9 arrives and I rearrange my miners and PSUs. Here is my setup: Quote Antminer S7, 640/670mV, 4.223Th/s (60 min avg), 625 Mhz Power supply: Enermax Revolution 87+ 1000W Voltage: 227 VAC Current: 4,7 A Power (at wall): 1066,9 W Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: castiel0504 on February 07, 2018, 09:42:13 AM "Aaaaand throwing junk at people, so we can earn as much as we can! Let the sheeps buy all our old gear" - Bitmain is now rubbing hands and looking at their wallets.. Why that doesn't surprise me..
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: AerialGopher on February 07, 2018, 09:44:53 AM It was a TYPO, Its actually 14TH/s
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: coolnair on February 07, 2018, 09:46:50 AM It was a TYPO, Its actually 14TH/s Its not a typo. Just clarified... Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: AerialGopher on February 07, 2018, 09:47:17 AM I know, I was just trying to be positive.... :-)
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: barturas7 on February 07, 2018, 09:50:57 AM S7 at 4TH for 1000W? Huh, that sounds oddly familiar. Wonder where they got the idea. It does not look like s7? I compared the photos. Unless Bitmain had a burden to replace control units of all their old S7s. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on February 07, 2018, 10:26:15 AM V9 use 135 of BM1580 chips. S9 use 189 of BM1387 chips. S7 use 135 of BM1385 chips. Well, it is not a new thing that manufacturer renames a old design with a new name. We have seen this before with AMD and their Radeon GPU series. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: R0MD0C1 on February 07, 2018, 10:35:07 AM Save the planet, destroy all V9 !
Seriously, are they selling old hardware before move to another country (china restrict) ?! Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on February 07, 2018, 10:36:02 AM I see it very possible, that Bitmain is moving a lot of operation to the USA and Switzerland.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Apprentice on February 07, 2018, 10:37:12 AM V9 use 135 of BM1580 chips. S9 use 189 of BM1387 chips. S7 use 135 of BM1385 chips. Well, it is not a new thing that manufacturer renames a old design with a new name. We have seen this before with AMD and their Radeon GPU series. well if you look at it closely, you can see the white sticker on top of the black/yellow one and it 's off! https://twitter.com/BITMAINtech/status/961166562118975488 Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on February 07, 2018, 10:38:10 AM V9 use 135 of BM1580 chips. S9 use 189 of BM1387 chips. S7 use 135 of BM1385 chips. Well, it is not a new thing that manufacturer renames a old design with a new name. We have seen this before with AMD and their Radeon GPU series. well if you look at it closely, you can see the white sticker on top of the black/yellow one and it 's off! https://twitter.com/BITMAINtech/status/961166562118975488 Lol true, that's lazy. ;D They have just put a new sticker on top of the old one. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: bigjee on February 07, 2018, 10:40:54 AM I see it very possible, that Bitmain is moving a lot of operation to the USA and Switzerland. Yup i agree. they are lowering inventory and increasing sales. Making it easier to move out of china when the time comes. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Apprentice on February 07, 2018, 10:43:44 AM I see it very possible, that Bitmain is moving a lot of operation to the USA and Switzerland. Yup i agree. they are lowering inventory and increasing sales. Making it easier to move out of china when the time comes. ...still many will buy it Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: numnutz2009 on February 07, 2018, 10:49:10 AM I got the emails this morning and saw the specs page (which doesnt list algo ANYWHERE!!) and thought this cant be a bitcoin miner...it must be for another algo. Well that was until they posted on twitter sayin it was a btc and bch miner. It would be one thing to sell miners that r dated to clear a warehouse out...im perfectly fine with that idea and support it. Its a completely different thing to tell customers that it has a new model chip in it when in reality its an old outdated model chip. Thats just plain lyin.
Yes other companies rebrand the old hardware to sell them on but other companies actually improve the design or boost the specs a bit (in the case of video cards) or they slap 2 chips on 1 board....in other words they make the purchase worth while 9/10. This however is misleading and outright fraud in my opinion and im shocked that anyone would think this was a good business model to follow. I have free electronicity and even i wouldnt touch these. Space is a premium...power is not. I try not to hate on bitmain TOO much but this is terrible. I feel bad for the guys that r gonna get punched in the dick by this company. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: kris BTC on February 07, 2018, 11:04:51 AM If it is SHA256 then congratulations Bitmain for making something more shitter then a D3. Costs more in electricity lol
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: leowonderful on February 07, 2018, 11:13:12 AM If it is SHA256 then congratulations Bitmain for making something more shitter then a D3. Costs more in electricity lol They just want to get rid of their old S7 units that are barely profitable anymore. There's still people that will probably buy them that either have near-free electricity or are clueless about mining.Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on February 07, 2018, 11:18:20 AM There will always be clueless people to buy whatever Bitmain decides to sell, and we can't do nothing about it..
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Kapz786 on February 07, 2018, 11:19:28 AM The sad part is I bet they manage to sell a few even with the 5 unit MOQ. Funny how all miners are now in stock/shipping or shipping at a later date with the drop in crypto prices. Shady Bitmain tactics as usual
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on February 07, 2018, 11:43:52 AM My opinion is that BM1580 is just a rebrand name for the old ASIC chip BM1385, used in the S7 miner.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on February 07, 2018, 12:24:19 PM If it was not for the MOQ of 5 and the shipping cost I would actually take them to resell to people.
Much like the S3 units and S5 units I can explain that yes, it's a hobby you are going to loose money at with this equipment at this price BUT it let people get into BTC mining without dropping $1K+ USD on a miner. If they wanted to keep going they could buy more and better equipment. If they didn't so what they dropped $400 or so. Hell, if you ride motorcycles you can drop $650 on a good riding jacket in the spring that you "expand" out of over the winter. -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Eyedol-X on February 07, 2018, 12:45:52 PM If it was not for the MOQ of 5 and the shipping cost I would actually take them to resell to people. Much like the S3 units and S5 units I can explain that yes, it's a hobby you are going to loose money at with this equipment at this price BUT it let people get into BTC mining without dropping $1K+ USD on a miner. If they wanted to keep going they could buy more and better equipment. If they didn't so what they dropped $400 or so. Hell, if you ride motorcycles you can drop $650 on a good riding jacket in the spring that you "expand" out of over the winter. -Dave Yup, these things pretty much kill whats left of the S3/S5/S7 Market at the price premiums they have been going for. the MOQ of 5 is to limit orders/traffic to bitmain so that resellers will pick them up most likely. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: smutboy420 on February 07, 2018, 01:25:17 PM Seriously who will buy such a crap?
Only some one who has free electric or someone who wants to spend more in electric per month then this can possibly mine per month. Cause at there efficiency rate combined with the difficulty rating these are IMPOSSIBLE to turn a profit on or any way they can even break even in there life times. Even the s9 is starting to get to towards the end of profitable mining unless someone has free or really cheap electric. and by the next 2 diff increases then even s9s will be makeing less btc per month then they use in electric every month. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: QuestionQuest on February 07, 2018, 01:39:40 PM Seriously who will buy such a crap? Only some one who has free electric or someone who wants to spend more in electric per month then this can possibly mine per month. Cause at there efficiency rate combined with the difficulty rating these are IMPOSSIBLE to turn a profit on or any way they can even break even in there life times. Even the s9 is starting to get to towards the end of profitable mining unless someone has free or really cheap electric. and by the next 2 diff increases then even s9s will be makeing less btc per month then they use in electric every month. Yeah I am asking me the same, but for any reason the T9 was always a very quick sold out model. I asked me the same: WHY?! Even sometimes S9 were avaible. Then a good friend of me showed me something during a visit at his place. We are both inside Mining, but we know each other since years - before the first bitcoin ;) He has some of those T9 and he is undervolting them extrem! He has just 6-7 TH/s - but that leads to a power consumption per Hash what is better then any S9 has. But on the other hand it leads to a very very high investment each Hashrate. He has a mix for "good days" and for "bad days" of S9 and T9. I have the feeling that you maybe can undervolt the V9, too. But I end with the same words like smutboy: Who would buy such a crap?! Well, on the other hand I see the price right now. USD 345,- (plus PSU) / 4TH/s / ~1000W. If you buy 5 you will have a power consumption of 5000W (5KW!) for 20 TH/s and payed a bit less then for S9, because one S9 = 1x PSU. 5x V9 = 5x PSU. It adds up. If you can all undervolt them to 3 TH/s even while halfing the power consumption to 500W each, it will lead to 15TH/s and 2500W ---and I dont thing that undervolting will work like this example ---- garbage! They say for long time running. Ok. Where is my 5 or 10 or lifetime gurantee included with free replacement? Even my Zippo lighter has it ;D 8) Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sidehack on February 07, 2018, 02:19:51 PM If it actually is a new 16nm chip, it could be the first test run trying to beat S7 efficiency and fell flat, so they re-engineered and came up with BM1387. So they went ahead and finished out miners with them just in case, and put them in their own datacenters and ran the crap out of them and now they're selling 'em off.
Or they actually are S7s, and they put them in their own datacenters and ran the crap out of them and now they're selling 'em off. The best stable settings I have run on an S7 are 3.3TH/700W at 0.205J/GH at the wall. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: ricknamer on February 07, 2018, 02:37:50 PM How does this unit compare to this one: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LifeSmart-Large-Room-1000W-Portable-Electric-Infrared-Quartz-Room-Space-Heater/39536773
Same power consumption - how about heating capability? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: VRobb on February 07, 2018, 03:07:46 PM For any ASIC miner wattage in = heat out. So yes, 1kW of heat, plus bonus BTC! ;)
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: ricknamer on February 07, 2018, 04:02:04 PM For any ASIC miner wattage in = heat out. So yes, 1kW of heat, plus bonus BTC! ;) I may take a risk on it Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: dlezama on February 07, 2018, 04:14:11 PM Yes, they are awesome for heating your house... if you are deaf and like to breathe formaldehyde :)
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Cuzzle on February 07, 2018, 04:30:00 PM Yes, they are awesome for heating your house... if you are deaf and like to breathe formaldehyde :) I live in Canada, it is -13 C today. Asics and gpu rigs in basement. My furnace has not come on once this winter. 4000 sq foot stone house built in 1883, no insulation in walls. Balloon frame design, drop a screwdriver inside the wall while doing work on the second floor and it will fall right to the basement. Single pane glass windows. House sits at a constant 62 F 24/7. No, I do not have a wood stove. Forced air gas is all I have for heat (which I dont use any more.) Electricity bill about $900 per month. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: kenji on February 07, 2018, 04:30:36 PM When people say you won't be able to sell your old miners down the line show them this haha.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: fanatic26 on February 07, 2018, 04:41:26 PM Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work. Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right? I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: nsummy on February 07, 2018, 04:44:18 PM I see it very possible, that Bitmain is moving a lot of operation to the USA and Switzerland. There are several news sources that state Biteme might be moving to Canada, probably Quebec for cheap hydro power. The claims that Bitmain is clearing out their warehouse to move to another country are idiotic at best. Its not uncommon for companies to unload old inventory to clear their warehouses. Its takes up space and depreciates. There is a reason Bitmain is in china to begin with: Its where all of the electronics are made. They aren't going to move operations to another country to have Canadians and Americans build their mining equipment. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: fanatic26 on February 07, 2018, 04:46:36 PM Another interesting thing to note is these are 54 chip boards. The S7 hasnt been 54 chip since batch 3 or 4. They spent the majority of the time making the 45 chip model, so something has to be different.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: dlezama on February 07, 2018, 04:48:14 PM Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work. Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right? I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: nsummy on February 07, 2018, 04:50:01 PM Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work. Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right? I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it. Amen to this. They sell the A3 for $2400 and people bitch. Then they sell a 2nd batch for $980 and people bitch even more! Now they are selling a miner for a hundred bucks and people come out of the woodwork! I haven't checked ebay prices for awhile but late last year S7s were selling for nearly $1000. I'm sure Bitmain's poor customer serviceis mostly due to the fact that they know they can't win. Its obvious that it doesn't matter if their prices are high or low, or support is good or bad, the vocal minority will still complain. Of course they also sell out of everything so they know it really doesn't matter what people think. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Sitarow on February 07, 2018, 05:11:48 PM Is it me or here in NY at 12 cents a kw/hr this isnt even profittable.....1000 watts for 4TH when you could have S9 doing 11-14TH for 1200/1400 watts. Its a cheap miner but it isnt even profittable lol. Unless btc is like 20k each. These are electricity guzzling space heaters. There are many reasons for these devices. Perhaps obligatory contracts and these help replace end of life hardware. Here is what it would look like if BTC/USD was at $15,000.00. From what I can see buying BTC at this low rate vs hardware purchase of this type makes business sense. UPDATE: Here is the document for reference. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11QS1BBV11KNGTF8N_-fdfmjTZ3WzPQFbLfVrl5n6R8s/edit?usp=sharing BTC/USD 15000 NETWORK DIFFICULTY INCREASE OF 10% FOR 6 RE-TARGETS. https://i.imgur.com/Q0e1qbm.png BTC/USD 8500 NETWORK DIFFICULTY INCREASE OF 5% FOR 6 RE-TARGETS. https://i.imgur.com/as47dez.png ^ updated to reflect proper name and other purchase options, Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: notey on February 07, 2018, 05:33:39 PM Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work. Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right? I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it. Amen to this. They sell the A3 for $2400 and people bitch. Then they sell a 2nd batch for $980 and people bitch even more! Now they are selling a miner for a hundred bucks and people come out of the woodwork! I haven't checked ebay prices for awhile but late last year S7s were selling for nearly $1000. I'm sure Bitmain's poor customer serviceis mostly due to the fact that they know they can't win. Its obvious that it doesn't matter if their prices are high or low, or support is good or bad, the vocal minority will still complain. Of course they also sell out of everything so they know it really doesn't matter what people think. They have a right to their opinion - as do you. Bitmain selling this as being "pleased to announce the all-new #Antminer V9 #BitcoinCash #Bitcoin miner, especially designed for long-term use in fast-growing mining operations"is being slightly misleading. But, the specs are there for all to decide. My question would be why bother releasing this inefficient miner now unless they are selling "old" not "new" board stock? All looks a little suspect to me... and that's just a IMHO comment. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on February 07, 2018, 05:47:25 PM Another interesting thing to note is these are 54 chip boards. The S7 hasnt been 54 chip since batch 3 or 4. They spent the majority of the time making the 45 chip model, so something has to be different. The V9 has 135x chips, so it has 45x chips per one hash board. It is exactly the same as with the S7 later batches. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: kenji on February 07, 2018, 05:47:47 PM Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work. Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right? I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it. Amen to this. They sell the A3 for $2400 and people bitch. Then they sell a 2nd batch for $980 and people bitch even more! Now they are selling a miner for a hundred bucks and people come out of the woodwork! I haven't checked ebay prices for awhile but late last year S7s were selling for nearly $1000. I'm sure Bitmain's poor customer serviceis mostly due to the fact that they know they can't win. Its obvious that it doesn't matter if their prices are high or low, or support is good or bad, the vocal minority will still complain. Of course they also sell out of everything so they know it really doesn't matter what people think. They have a right to their opinion - as do you. Bitmain selling this as being "pleased to announce the all-new #Antminer V9 #BitcoinCash #Bitcoin miner, especially designed for long-term use in fast-growing mining operations"is being slightly misleading. But, the specs are there for all to decide. My question would be why bother releasing this inefficient miner now unless they are selling "old" not "new" board stock? All looks a little suspect to me... and that's just a IMHO comment. Of course it's old stock that they're simply re-branding to sell easily, at least that's what would make sense, no? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: notey on February 07, 2018, 06:10:19 PM Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work. Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right? I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it. Amen to this. They sell the A3 for $2400 and people bitch. Then they sell a 2nd batch for $980 and people bitch even more! Now they are selling a miner for a hundred bucks and people come out of the woodwork! I haven't checked ebay prices for awhile but late last year S7s were selling for nearly $1000. I'm sure Bitmain's poor customer serviceis mostly due to the fact that they know they can't win. Its obvious that it doesn't matter if their prices are high or low, or support is good or bad, the vocal minority will still complain. Of course they also sell out of everything so they know it really doesn't matter what people think. They have a right to their opinion - as do you. Bitmain selling this as being "pleased to announce the all-new #Antminer V9 #BitcoinCash #Bitcoin miner, especially designed for long-term use in fast-growing mining operations"is being slightly misleading. But, the specs are there for all to decide. My question would be why bother releasing this inefficient miner now unless they are selling "old" not "new" board stock? All looks a little suspect to me... and that's just a IMHO comment. Of course it's old stock that they're simply re-branding to sell easily, at least that's what would make sense, no? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: gurugarzah on February 07, 2018, 06:20:02 PM 4TH for $435 bucks USD is still A WHOLE LOT BETTER than Canaan’s. 11TH @ $2,880
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Sitarow on February 07, 2018, 06:47:41 PM 4TH for $435 bucks USD is still A WHOLE LOT BETTER than Canaan’s. 11TH @ $2,880 True but also the S9 is up for sell and they do 13.5TH at 1375watts. You also need to buy a minimum qty of 5 V9's Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: kenji on February 07, 2018, 06:50:41 PM 4TH for $435 bucks USD is still A WHOLE LOT BETTER than Canaan’s. 11TH @ $2,880 True but also the S9 is up for sell and they do 13.5TH at 1375watts. You also need to buy a minimum qty of 5 V9's That's ridiculous. I was going to say that the only reason anyone would ever buy this is because the price is cheaper, as a way for people without a lot of money to get into mining. Now that I see you have to order at least 5 of them, there is no reason anyone should buy these, period. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: fanatic26 on February 07, 2018, 06:56:22 PM Another interesting thing to note is these are 54 chip boards. The S7 hasnt been 54 chip since batch 3 or 4. They spent the majority of the time making the 45 chip model, so something has to be different. The V9 has 135x chips, so it has 45x chips per one hash board. It is exactly the same as with the S7 later batches. whoops i misread one of the links I guess. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: SDRebel on February 07, 2018, 08:07:09 PM maybe they should just sell more antminers s7-ln, I miss mine. sold it too early :(
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on February 07, 2018, 08:18:50 PM I think most of you have forgotten that Bitmain sold tens of thousands of used AntMiner S7s when they upgraded to the S9 a couple years ago. They sold the used S7s with minimum order quantities of 500 and they specifically called them out as being used with no warranty. Considering they probably sold all of their used S7s AND these have a different chip in them, I suspect the V4 is probably a 28nm version of the T9 that was easy and fast to throw into production a couple months ago when Bitcoin/Bitcoin Cash were soaring. Think about it - getting in line for more products with TSMC probably takes 3-6 months of lead time. The faster/cheaper route when attempting to catch the wave would be to use a 28nm node that aren't competing with all of the 16nm stuff.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Sitarow on February 07, 2018, 08:29:50 PM They seem to only make sense if you have less than .03 kw/h power, to see anything close to an ROI. I would be curious to see what it really says under the white sticker that seems to have been applied over the top of the original sticker. If it weren't for the MOQ of 5, I would order one just to find out. Considering that you may not have this hardware until sometime in march I have taken the yearly average of 10% network difficulty increase and applied it for when you are expected to start receiving the hardware. Here is an estimate of the network difficulty as of March 2018. Results for BTC/USD estimated trading price at $8500.00 USD Estimated March 23 2018 Difficulty 3,811,165,475,251 https://i.imgur.com/Trh0oye.png Results for BTC/USD estimated trading price at $15000.00 USD Estimated March 23 2018 Difficulty 3,811,165,475,251 https://i.imgur.com/Bro5E3u.png Edit: Forgot to include the reference document link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11QS1BBV11KNGTF8N_-fdfmjTZ3WzPQFbLfVrl5n6R8s/edit?usp=sharing Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: QuintLeo on February 07, 2018, 08:42:17 PM Yep, 4Th at ~1000W shipping April to May for around $335 USD. I'd be interested in one of these if they brought em to the US site. Apparently 80% will be shipped April and 20% in May. On a side note, I haven't seen a miner sell for this cheap in a very long time from Bitmain. Seems to be a simple S7 underclock and they're trying to dump their existing miners. Link: https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020180205085836862oAuXwgTa0710#1353 It's on the US site (now) - but forget about it unless you have SUPER cheap electric, at my VERY LOW electric rate it barely nets $10/month (and I'm in the 3'd LOWEST rate area of the US). They SHOULD have introduced it a month or two ago, it would has sold like hotcakes then. My bloody A2 farm is MORE profitable per $ invested than this thing is. STILL the insistence on that BCH garbage for payment. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: QuintLeo on February 07, 2018, 08:44:44 PM I think most of you have forgotten that Bitmain sold tens of thousands of used AntMiner S7s when they upgraded to the S9 a couple years ago. They sold the used S7s with minimum order quantities of 500 and they specifically called them out as being used with no warranty. Considering they probably sold all of their used S7s AND these have a different chip in them, I suspect the V4 is probably a 28nm version of the T9 that was easy and fast to throw into production a couple months ago when Bitcoin/Bitcoin Cash were soaring. Think about it - getting in line for more products with TSMC probably takes 3-6 months of lead time. The faster/cheaper route when attempting to catch the wave would be to use a 28nm node that aren't competing with all of the 16nm stuff. The T9 used the SAME chip as the S9, just fewer of them running at a higher voltage for less efficiency. These look likely to be a relabled S7 chip. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on February 07, 2018, 09:29:49 PM It sells much better than if they would sold those as S7 miners like they are.
"OOOOHHH NEW MINERRSSS!!!" vs. "Oh that's just a old S7, booooooo." Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: dlezama on February 07, 2018, 10:02:30 PM I think most of you have forgotten that Bitmain sold tens of thousands of used AntMiner S7s when they upgraded to the S9 a couple years ago. They sold the used S7s with minimum order quantities of 500 and they specifically called them out as being used with no warranty. Considering they probably sold all of their used S7s AND these have a different chip in them, I suspect the V4 is probably a 28nm version of the T9 that was easy and fast to throw into production a couple months ago when Bitcoin/Bitcoin Cash were soaring. Think about it - getting in line for more products with TSMC probably takes 3-6 months of lead time. The faster/cheaper route when attempting to catch the wave would be to use a 28nm node that aren't competing with all of the 16nm stuff. Maybe, but the part about being a new chip doesn't make sense to me. They do have the mask already for the old S7 chips I guess? They may have just ordered more and use a new name for them. Newly produced S7s does seem to make sense overall, but if that's the case they missed the wave badly.Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on February 07, 2018, 10:32:57 PM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test
If it looks like the S7, specs sound like the S7, and it performs like the S7, then it probably is a S7. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Mursu on February 07, 2018, 10:49:57 PM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test If it looks like the S7, specs sound like the S7, and it performs like the S7, then it probably is a S7. Haha, this is usually quite accurate statement! As pointed out above already, they did not really bother to ease the concerns with their product marketing. If they wanted to convince the customer base that this is a brand new product, they probably should have hired somebody with better Photoshop skills to do the sales images :D https://imgur.com/a/9fC6D (https://imgur.com/a/9fC6D) Not stating anything about the product, but that looks just about as bad as it can. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: leowonderful on February 07, 2018, 11:01:04 PM Their miners already sell pretty well and most people probably won't even notice the new label on the miner. I don't think they've had many issues with product marketing recently considering their S9s sold out in minutes just a few weeks back.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: ricknamer on February 07, 2018, 11:08:14 PM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test If it looks like the S7, specs sound like the S7, and it performs like the S7, then it probably is a S7. Haha, this is usually quite accurate statement! As pointed out above already, they did not really bother to ease the concerns with their product marketing. If they wanted to convince the customer base that this is a brand new product, they probably should have hired somebody with better Photoshop skills to do the sales images :D https://imgur.com/a/9fC6D (https://imgur.com/a/9fC6D) Not stating anything about the product, but that looks just about as bad as it can. Step 1: remove sticker to expose s7 label Step 2: list on eBay or amazon for $999 Step 3: profit Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Mursu on February 07, 2018, 11:21:37 PM Their miners already sell pretty well and most people probably won't even notice the new label on the miner. I don't think they've had many issues with product marketing recently considering their S9s sold out in minutes just a few weeks back. Absolutely, their sales record has been excellent in a market with enormous demand for past few months. However my point was that it is maybe not ideal to present a new product very similar to old one with such obvious image manipulation. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: ricknamer on February 07, 2018, 11:33:29 PM Their miners already sell pretty well and most people probably won't even notice the new label on the miner. I don't think they've had many issues with product marketing recently considering their S9s sold out in minutes just a few weeks back. However my point was that it is maybe not ideal to present a new product very similar to old one with such obvious image manipulation. I agree. 100%. Here in America. You are dealing with the Chinese now. Business customs and practices are so totally different that one can’t even begin to explain. You just have to work with them a few time and you’ll get it. The label IS important. The label DOES make this a new item. This is how Chinese business works. If they are selling it and they are calling it new and they rebrand. It’s new! That’s why dealing with the Chinese and Latinos is a total PITA. They’re still developing. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: dlezama on February 07, 2018, 11:53:30 PM Their miners already sell pretty well and most people probably won't even notice the new label on the miner. I don't think they've had many issues with product marketing recently considering their S9s sold out in minutes just a few weeks back. However my point was that it is maybe not ideal to present a new product very similar to old one with such obvious image manipulation. I agree. 100%. Here in America. You are dealing with the Chinese now. Business customs and practices are so totally different that one can’t even begin to explain. You just have to work with them a few time and you’ll get it. The label IS important. The label DOES make this a new item. This is how Chinese business works. If they are selling it and they are calling it new and they rebrand. It’s new! That’s why dealing with the Chinese and Latinos is a total PITA. They’re still developing. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Sitarow on February 08, 2018, 12:23:56 AM Just got the email from Bitmain this morning. 4 th/s @1000 watts? Lol is this 2015 with 28nm? I would have preferred an undervolted S9 or R4 to an undervolted S7. Well I sharpened up the pencil a bit and this is the results. Factoring last two years difficulty increase and how much they are asking/projecting clients get in return compared to network difficulty increase. Update: link to document https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11QS1BBV11KNGTF8N_-fdfmjTZ3WzPQFbLfVrl5n6R8s/edit?usp=sharing BTC/USD 8,500 USD at a conservative difficulty increase of 10% until march and 2% after. https://i.imgur.com/Hf8xftO.png https://i.imgur.com/Hf8xftO.png BTC/USD 15,000 USD at a conservative difficulty increase of 10% until march and 2% after. https://i.imgur.com/rzLkzIe.png https://i.imgur.com/rzLkzIe.png UPDATED: New Difficulty Info Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: ricknamer on February 08, 2018, 12:29:36 AM Their miners already sell pretty well and most people probably won't even notice the new label on the miner. I don't think they've had many issues with product marketing recently considering their S9s sold out in minutes just a few weeks back. However my point was that it is maybe not ideal to present a new product very similar to old one with such obvious image manipulation. I agree. 100%. Here in America. You are dealing with the Chinese now. Business customs and practices are so totally different that one can’t even begin to explain. You just have to work with them a few time and you’ll get it. The label IS important. The label DOES make this a new item. This is how Chinese business works. If they are selling it and they are calling it new and they rebrand. It’s new! That’s why dealing with the Chinese and Latinos is a total PITA. They’re still developing. Cool. Ride your high horse next time you send $100,000 wire transfer to a Chinese company who suddenly changes the terms of your agreement as soon as payment is received and let me know how it plays out for you. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: TimKwi on February 08, 2018, 01:10:03 AM So just for shits and grins, I clicked on the email I received from Bitmain to order 5 V9's. The add to cart button works, but nothing appears in your cart. Shitmain should put more thought into the operation of their website rather than re-branding S7's.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: dlezama on February 08, 2018, 04:29:44 AM Their miners already sell pretty well and most people probably won't even notice the new label on the miner. I don't think they've had many issues with product marketing recently considering their S9s sold out in minutes just a few weeks back. However my point was that it is maybe not ideal to present a new product very similar to old one with such obvious image manipulation. I agree. 100%. Here in America. You are dealing with the Chinese now. Business customs and practices are so totally different that one can’t even begin to explain. You just have to work with them a few time and you’ll get it. The label IS important. The label DOES make this a new item. This is how Chinese business works. If they are selling it and they are calling it new and they rebrand. It’s new! That’s why dealing with the Chinese and Latinos is a total PITA. They’re still developing. Cool. Ride your high horse next time you send $100,000 wire transfer to a Chinese company who suddenly changes the terms of your agreement as soon as payment is received and let me know how it plays out for you. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: vegascoinpool on February 08, 2018, 07:37:17 AM Perhaps another (two) way(s) to look at this particular product... (at least this is how I am looking at it)...
I have been running some of Sidehack's 2Pac sticks on a small rig, and mining directly to a paper wallet that I'm stashing away for the BTC $500k days they say are coming. Or whatever. Rainy day wallet. The sticks have been religiously cranking away at 260-300 GH/s and its been an interesting learning curve and fun way to soak up some stuff. However, I wanted to do something a bit more effective towards my paper wallet mining, and had been considering a used Antminer S4 on eBay. At 2 TH (and 1300 watts) I've been debating the plusses and minuses of doing this. The units are cheap, and the "ROI" or profitability of the coins aren't as much a consideration for me as just slowly, quietly stacking some coin in the corner. S4's have been averaging $275 - $350 on eBay. I'd have preferred an S7 for the additional hash rate and better power consumption, comparably. If the real investment in my paper mining is the power cost alone... so be it... but at $1,200 or so per S7 lately on eBay, it didn't make sense. That's more than I want to invest. So these new V9 units are attractive to me for that reason alone. $345 and 4 TH okay... now we're talking. Better efficiency than S4, better hashing power than S4... sweet. Sign me up. So that's one way to see it. But then... a good friend of mine told me what he's been doing with one of his S9 units. He bought extra S9 control boards on eBay and has been splitting an S9 into "three" functional units. You get the benefits of S9 power efficiency, and about 4.5 TH of hashing power per board. So he can split the hashing power across three different coins if he wants. In my case, I could break out a single board on an S9 unit to be the "paper wallet" board... and let the other two do what they've been doing. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sidehack on February 08, 2018, 01:08:24 PM I can run a 900W S7 with a single fan at 30% and it's a heck of a lot quieter than a stock S7.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: ccgllc on February 08, 2018, 05:41:21 PM My guess is that it really is using a new chip with the old board design (why reinvent that portion if its works?).
I'm wondering if this is the new Samsung chip that has been in the news and that they simply don't work to spec? This happened commonly in the "old days" back around 2014 with GAWs rebranded miners and other manufacturers. If so, they are likely just dumping at a small margin to recover their losses while they work out whatever went wrong. My 2 cents. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: majlkcze on February 08, 2018, 05:55:45 PM My guess is that it really is using a new chip with the old board design (why reinvent that portion if its works?). I'm wondering if this is the new Samsung chip that has been in the news and that they simply don't work to spec? This happened commonly in the "old days" back around 2014 with GAWs rebranded miners and other manufacturers. If so, they are likely just dumping at a small margin to recover their losses while they work out whatever went wrong. My 2 cents. Samsung is manufacturing 10nm for EBANG miners, Im pretty sure. This is most probably dump of old chips, because new miner on 12nm TSMC process comes March-April (Lets say S9+). It make sense, because when Dragons (if exist) and Bitfury and new S9+ hits the market, theese chips will be worth nothing. Now there can be some desperate users with cheap or free electricity that can buy it. Thats my view. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: QuintLeo on February 08, 2018, 09:04:34 PM Another interesting thing to note is these are 54 chip boards. The S7 hasnt been 54 chip since batch 3 or 4. They spent the majority of the time making the 45 chip model, so something has to be different. They're specified as 135 chips = 45 chip boards. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: qctechno on February 08, 2018, 11:20:57 PM This can explain a lot
Samsung Strikes Deal to Supply ASIC Chips to Bitmain https://bitsonline.com/samsung-deal-asic-chips-bitmain/ Rushing out old stuff before selling new Antminer with Samsung chips inside :P Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Sandal_Hat on February 09, 2018, 03:40:28 PM This can explain a lot Samsung Strikes Deal to Supply ASIC Chips to Bitmain https://bitsonline.com/samsung-deal-asic-chips-bitmain/ Rushing out old stuff before selling new Antminer with Samsung chips inside :P I hope this is true. This means no new manufacturer Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: zachj00 on February 09, 2018, 04:58:20 PM This can explain a lot Samsung Strikes Deal to Supply ASIC Chips to Bitmain https://bitsonline.com/samsung-deal-asic-chips-bitmain/ Rushing out old stuff before selling new Antminer with Samsung chips inside :P I hope this is true. This means no new manufacturer Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Sandal_Hat on February 09, 2018, 07:51:04 PM This can explain a lot Samsung Strikes Deal to Supply ASIC Chips to Bitmain https://bitsonline.com/samsung-deal-asic-chips-bitmain/ Rushing out old stuff before selling new Antminer with Samsung chips inside :P I hope this is true. This means no new manufacturer U want more difficulty? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: qctechno on February 09, 2018, 08:35:46 PM This can explain a lot Samsung Strikes Deal to Supply ASIC Chips to Bitmain https://bitsonline.com/samsung-deal-asic-chips-bitmain/ Rushing out old stuff before selling new Antminer with Samsung chips inside :P I hope this is true. This means no new manufacturer U want more difficulty? I have been keeping an eye on the Samsung news articles since they were first released at the end of January and this is the first and ONLY article that claims Bitmain is who they have partnered with. I would take it with a grain of salt and find it extremely strange that none of the other articles mention the partnership between the two. Honestly, as per Moore's Law, I don't see any drastic improvement in efficiency from them. At most I expect a 25% improvement... Say... 18Th/S at 1400 watts... Chief Editor of Bitsonline.com ( https://twitter.com/TalonTech1 ) know really well Bitmain cie. He done review of most of their hardware over the pasts years. I'm confident the news is not fake. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: QuintLeo on February 10, 2018, 01:49:29 AM This can explain a lot Samsung Strikes Deal to Supply ASIC Chips to Bitmain https://bitsonline.com/samsung-deal-asic-chips-bitmain/ Rushing out old stuff before selling new Antminer with Samsung chips inside :P No actual Samsung quote has specified who they are selling the ASIC chips TO - but eBang DID announce that they were working on a miner model using 10nm chips to be made by Samsung. It would not shock me if Bitmain ALSO is going to source chips from Samsung, but it would be a major change for them. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: rockmoney on February 11, 2018, 08:39:38 PM As most others have already stated here, the Antminer V9 seems to be re-purposed mining hardware, likely from an old mine that is being upgraded (or rather already has). I honestly can't see anyone making brand new ASIC's that deploy old technology like this, so speculation as to where these miners came from (and why) had to be expected!
Also keep in mind that you will need (50) FIFTY PCI-E cables just to run the minimum order quantity of five units, as each one requires (10) ten single PCI-E connections from a PSU. And of course that will also require (10) ten receptacles and (10) ten power supplies (assuming you are using (1) one PSU per miner), otherwise you will need several high wattage PSU's, each with many PCI-E cables, or some other crazy solution for quenching the hunger of these power hungry In summary, I believe there's a reason that the Antminer V9 units have been readily available to purchase from BITMAIN's website for several days running now - every reasonable person is running as far away from these as possible, and besides the initial curiosity when first coming across the Antminer V9 for the first time, there simply seemd to be no interest (and for a good reason). My advice is simple - avoid these Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: QuintLeo on February 11, 2018, 08:45:22 PM You don't have to be in China to get very very low electric rates.
Under 5 exists in the US in a few spots, even for "residential" usage, and I'm pretty sure you can get into that ballpark in a couple areas of Canada as well. For that matter, there are 2 counties in the US that you can get under *3* cents/kwh for residential service. Expecting big farms to not grow when they're profitable is DUMB. There units don't need 10 power supplies - they don't eat AS MUCH power as the S9 does and use the same number of connections. ONE power supply per unit is entirely viable, which would be *5* power supplies and outlets for the "minimum order quantity" - I have no clue where your "10" is comming from. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Sandal_Hat on February 12, 2018, 07:06:57 AM You don't have to be in China to get very very low electric rates. Under 5 exists in the US in a few spots, even for "residential" usage, and I'm pretty sure you can get into that ballpark in a couple areas of Canada as well. For that matter, there are 2 counties in the US that you can get under *3* cents/kwh for residential service. Expecting big farms to not grow when they're profitable is DUMB. There units don't need 10 power supplies - they don't eat AS MUCH power as the S9 does and use the same number of connections. ONE power supply per unit is entirely viable, which would be *5* power supplies and outlets for the "minimum order quantity" - I have no clue where your "10" is comming from. At that electricity cost, it will still take 9 months plus to break even (without considering rental/staff/VAT/shipping cost). With those other costs included, it will be longer. The risks: -New stronger machines will come in and damage current returns. There are farms in the past that have gone offline with weaker machines like S7. There are also bankrupt mining farms like KNC. -Warranty is only 6 months and it takes longer ot break even. -Difficulty climbs even higher than expected due to new asic manufacturers There is also the risk of bitcoin price going downwards and never going back up or just bursting,etc. Nothing is ever risk free. U have a higher chance of breaking even but it is not a sure thing. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: vegascoinpool on February 12, 2018, 07:21:05 AM At that electricity cost, it will still take 9 months plus to break even (without considering rental/staff/VAT/shipping cost). With those other costs included, it will be longer. The risks: -New stronger machines will come in and damage current returns. There are farms in the past that have gone offline with weaker machines like S7. There are also bankrupt mining farms like KNC. -Warranty is only 6 months and it takes longer ot break even. -Difficulty climbs even higher than expected due to new asic manufacturers There is also the risk of bitcoin price going downwards and never going back up or just bursting,etc. Nothing is ever risk free. U have a higher chance of breaking even but it is not a sure thing. Lot of solid points here. I think this machine is geared to only a very specific user. Either super cheap power, or some alternate motive beyond pure pricing (alt coin speculation, etc.). Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on February 27, 2018, 06:05:31 PM At that electricity cost, it will still take 9 months plus to break even (without considering rental/staff/VAT/shipping cost). With those other costs included, it will be longer. The risks: -New stronger machines will come in and damage current returns. There are farms in the past that have gone offline with weaker machines like S7. There are also bankrupt mining farms like KNC. -Warranty is only 6 months and it takes longer ot break even. -Difficulty climbs even higher than expected due to new asic manufacturers There is also the risk of bitcoin price going downwards and never going back up or just bursting,etc. Nothing is ever risk free. U have a higher chance of breaking even but it is not a sure thing. Lot of solid points here. I think this machine is geared to only a very specific user. Either super cheap power, or some alternate motive beyond pure pricing (alt coin speculation, etc.). I think the V9 appeals mostly to people who want to learn about mining, but don't want to invest thousands of dollars up-front. If I were just getting started, the V9 would be worth the money just so that I can make sure I know how everything works before purchasing a more efficient (expensive) miner. Besides, lots of people don't mind using these as glorified space heaters that earn a little money to offset the electricity. I have a neighbor using some D3s for that purpose specifically. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: jekecoin on February 27, 2018, 06:49:05 PM I think the V9 appeals mostly to people who want to learn about mining, but don't want to invest thousands of dollars up-front. If I were just getting started, the V9 would be worth the money just so that I can make sure I know how everything works before purchasing a more efficient (expensive) miner. Besides, lots of people don't mind using these as glorified space heaters that earn a little money to offset the electricity. I have a neighbor using some D3s for that purpose specifically. The problem is you need to buy in bulk... (Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to remove multiple nested quotes.) Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on February 27, 2018, 11:26:51 PM I actually broke down and ordered a 5 pack.
With the knowledge that these units are never going to make a profit I figure they are good to demo to people who want to learn about mining. It will let them know that this is the noise level you have to deal with if you want it in your home. This is the cost to run it etc. Also, they will run off a single 1300w power supply on 110V so I can tote it around. Might not be the best deal, but at that price to show them around and possibly sell one or two for to people who know the score might not be the worst. Lets face it with shipping, import duties my cost is probably going to be a bit above $450. To show it to someone and let them have it for $475 to $500 with them knowing that it's never going to turn a profit is fine by me if they want to play around with it. I really miss the S3 :-) -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Sandal_Hat on February 28, 2018, 12:28:27 AM I think the V9 appeals mostly to people who want to learn about mining, but don't want to invest thousands of dollars up-front. If I were just getting started, the V9 would be worth the money just so that I can make sure I know how everything works before purchasing a more efficient (expensive) miner. Besides, lots of people don't mind using these as glorified space heaters that earn a little money to offset the electricity. I have a neighbor using some D3s for that purpose specifically. hmmm but with MOQ at 5 or 10, it isnt exactly little money. It is not that far from an S9. I actually broke down and ordered a 5 pack. With the knowledge that these units are never going to make a profit I figure they are good to demo to people who want to learn about mining. It will let them know that this is the noise level you have to deal with if you want it in your home. This is the cost to run it etc. Also, they will run off a single 1300w power supply on 110V so I can tote it around. Might not be the best deal, but at that price to show them around and possibly sell one or two for to people who know the score might not be the worst. Lets face it with shipping, import duties my cost is probably going to be a bit above $450. To show it to someone and let them have it for $475 to $500 with them knowing that it's never going to turn a profit is fine by me if they want to play around with it. I really miss the S3 :-) -Dave No offense buddy. I dont understand why anyone wants to play with these things though. (Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to remove multiple nested quotes.) Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on February 28, 2018, 12:49:47 PM I actually broke down and ordered a 5 pack. With the knowledge that these units are never going to make a profit I figure they are good to demo to people who want to learn about mining. It will let them know that this is the noise level you have to deal with if you want it in your home. This is the cost to run it etc. Also, they will run off a single 1300w power supply on 110V so I can tote it around. Might not be the best deal, but at that price to show them around and possibly sell one or two for to people who know the score might not be the worst. Lets face it with shipping, import duties my cost is probably going to be a bit above $450. To show it to someone and let them have it for $475 to $500 with them knowing that it's never going to turn a profit is fine by me if they want to play around with it. I really miss the S3 :-) -Dave No offense buddy. I dont understand why anyone wants to play with these things though. 1) For the "pure profit motive" I can flip them on eBay https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=antminer%20v9&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=antminer%20v9&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684) 2) As I said instead of carrying around an S9 (know fragile units) with 2 power supplies to demo to people who are interested I can take what I assume is an S7 with 1 power supply. If they want it (and yes they know they will loose money @ $500) it's not as big as an outlay. 2a) If they make $200 and decide to get out they can probably sell it for $200 quickly and not loose a real amount. 3) Sidehack with his USB sticks and pods and jstefanop with his moonlanders are selling a ton of stuff (every one they make) to lot of people, all knowing unless a miracle happens they are going to loose money on their purchase. 4) I do dabble in alt coins (as do a lot of people) if you want to mine something and not take an S9 or similar off line to play, then this makes it cost less if your try for the next big thing does not pan out. 5) Some people like different things. Dig at someone who I know is watching this thread (Hi Barry). Would you believe that some people buy $75,000 Alfa Romeos? It's the worst rated car by every reviewer. One magazine actually listed an achievement of one of their review cars as "Being the 1st Alfa in our test fleet not to have the check engine lite come on during the test" 6) Actually going back to the point before, you can run these easily on 1 x 1300 watt off the shelf power supply on 110V circuit. -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: QuarterMaster on February 28, 2018, 09:26:51 PM Well as someone who has set up 10 of the GekkoScience 2 Pac to lean from this would seem like the logical next step. The numbers are not very promising at all in terms of profit but they are selling them as "new" which has to be better than buying a used S7.
Maybe under-volt them to make them a little more profitable. Interested for sure but the single units are already a bit more at $500 on eBay. I can't see this unit going to any serious miners though. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: ltm128 on February 28, 2018, 10:40:02 PM I think the Antminer V9 is an underrated and under appreciated machine. It has comparable performance to the S7, and is much cheaper. The price of an S7 today is $899-$1200 dollars vs the V9 at about 500. It is an affordable upgrade for hobby miners that want to take their mining experience to the next level. You aren't going to have to rewire the house to be able to run one or two of these. For someone with cheap electricity it might even be nice to have a few of them vs an S9. Sure the initial costs for all the power supply units would be a lot, but if there is some sort of machine failure, you still can run at 80% while fixing it. Also, having a few V9s would allow you to mine on multiple pools at a single time vs a single S9. Have one on Bitcoin, one on BCH, Digibyte, and so on. Plus, a V9 is much more profitable than an S3.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: leowonderful on February 28, 2018, 10:55:29 PM I think the Antminer V9 is an underrated and under appreciated machine. It has comparable performance to the S7, and is much cheaper. The price of an S7 today is $899-$1200 dollars vs the V9 at about 500. It is an affordable upgrade for hobby miners that want to take their mining experience to the next level. You aren't going to have to rewire the house to be able to run one or two of these. For someone with cheap electricity it might even be nice to have a few of them vs an S9. Sure the initial costs for all the power supply units would be a lot, but if there is some sort of machine failure, you still can run at 80% while fixing it. Also, having a few V9s would allow you to mine on multiple pools at a single time vs a single S9. Have one on Bitcoin, one on BCH, Digibyte, and so on. Plus, a V9 is much more profitable than an S3. Yeah, but you're missing the big points. The lowest MOQ for this miner is 5 which brings cost up by quite a bit, unless you've got free electricity it won't do much of anything with difficulty rising like it has recently (and these are preorders on top of that!). If you plan on buying these individually you have to go through a third party that will be selling these units high above Bitmain's prices (example is eBay).No idea where the 80% number came from with a machine failure. The V9 is hardly comparable to the S3. The S3 was and is still popular due to its noise level that made it so versatile. The V9 is just a plain loud miner. Not sure why you'd want to mine several different coins at once. If you're even semi-seriously mining, sticking to one pool provides the most consistent rewards. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on February 28, 2018, 11:01:33 PM He is also missing the fact, that V9 is actually just a rebranded S7 with lower performance settings.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on March 01, 2018, 03:40:26 PM Yeah, but you're missing the big points. The lowest MOQ for this miner is 5... Fixed! We've got them on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B3BRKYR/?m=A1LBZI6C51C6OJ) if anyone wants them. Obviously, this is a preorder. We have 300 coming in March and 300 coming in April/May. Current price is $499 each with free shipping, but pricing is subject to change. Power supply is not included. Full disclosure, we're profiting at around $30 each after all expenses are taken into account. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: QuarterMaster on March 02, 2018, 12:34:32 AM Fixed! We've got them on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B3BRKYR/?m=A1LBZI6C51C6OJ) if anyone wants them. Obviously, this is a preorder. We have 300 coming in March and 300 coming in April/May. Current price is $499 each with free shipping, but pricing is subject to change. Power supply is not included. Full disclosure, we're profiting at around $30 each after all expenses are taken into account. You have the ASIC chip listed wrong at Amazon. You list it as a "BM1350" and Bitmain lists it as a "BM1580" as do all other sellers. It has all the specifications of the BM1385 in the S7. Please update your listing. Quote AntMiner V9 Specifications: 1. Hash Rate: 4.0 TH/s ±5% 2. Power Consumption: 1027W ±10% (at the wall, with APW3++, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp) 3. Power Efficiency: 0.253 W/GH ±7% (at the wall, with APW3++, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp) 4. Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V 5. ASIC Chip: BM1350 6. Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H) 7. Cooling: 2x 12038 fans 8. Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C 9. Network Connection: Ethernet (network cable not included) (Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to add proper quote formatting.) Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Sandal_Hat on March 02, 2018, 01:04:41 AM As the saying goes "There is a butt for every seat" ... 1 - I dont think u can make a profit off them on ebay unless u find a dumb buyer. I am surprised by point 3. This thing is fun for awhile and after that it is just dealing with heat, noise and electricity lol I guess to each his own. (Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to trim the quote from DaveF.) Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on March 02, 2018, 06:38:53 PM You have the ASIC chip listed wrong at Amazon. You list it as a "BM1350" and Bitmain lists it as a "BM1580" as do all other sellers. It has all the specifications of the BM1385 in the S7. Please update your listing. Nice catch! Updating now. Thank you. (Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to trim the quote from QuarterMaster.) Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on March 05, 2018, 03:29:52 PM Looks like our V9s will be arriving tomorrow. I'm hoping to do a quick YouTube review on one of them.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on March 05, 2018, 10:21:58 PM Looks like our V9s will be arriving tomorrow. I'm hoping to do a quick YouTube review on one of them. Nice, looking forward to see if there are any actual differences vs. the S7. :) Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: suchmoon on March 07, 2018, 01:08:49 AM Got my V9s today. Look and smell brand spanking new. Not some used S7s with new stickers.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: leowonderful on March 07, 2018, 01:18:18 AM Got my V9s today. Look and smell brand spanking new. Not some used S7s with new stickers. Could you provide any photos of the miners if possible? It'd be great to have a look at these outside of Bitmain's sales page, a look inside would be even greater but I understand if you just want to do the outside of the miner.I also wonder if these would be stable running at the frequency the S7 runs at. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: suchmoon on March 07, 2018, 01:23:00 AM Got my V9s today. Look and smell brand spanking new. Not some used S7s with new stickers. Could you provide any photos of the miners if possible? It'd be great to have an image of these outside of Bitmain's sales page.Yep will try to do that... charging my camera's battery right now. Edit - sorry for poor lighting and hasty crops / serial number edits - but here it is: https://meem.link/i/a/QFD9jp.jpg Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image https://meem.link/i/a/mrTjO6.jpg Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image https://meem.link/i/a/P8hzKZ.jpg Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image https://meem.link/i/a/pNYS6K.jpg Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image https://meem.link/i/a/WosHcY.jpg Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image https://meem.link/i/a/Z1oyVX.jpg Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image https://meem.link/i/a/hE67D9.jpg Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image https://meem.link/i/a/wCnskV.jpg Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on March 07, 2018, 04:20:03 AM Hey everyone,
We just (temporarily) lowered our price to $399/each for the V9 if anyone wants one. Here's the link to our Amazon listing (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B3BRKYR?m=A1LBZI6C51C6OJ). Yes, we're taking a slight loss on each one - but we're out of space at our warehouse and need to move a few of these quickly! We also initiated $100 partial refunds for each customer who already purchased to compensate them for the difference. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on March 07, 2018, 10:37:20 AM Interesting photos, thank you suchmoon. :)
I wonder what is with the L3 sticker? Maybe those hash boards are actually good old L3 hash boards populated with a Bitcoin ASIC chip. And BM1580 is just a new version of the good old BM1385 chip. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: suchmoon on March 07, 2018, 01:21:07 PM Interesting photos, thank you suchmoon. :) I wonder what is with the L3 sticker? Maybe those hash boards are actually good old L3 hash boards populated with a Bitcoin ASIC chip. And BM1580 is just a new version of the good old BM1385 chip. Isn't the L3 larger? I don't have one on hand right now but looking at the pics on Bitmain site it looks like L3/A3 have a taller profile. Probably just a coincidence with the lettering. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Kenni88 on March 07, 2018, 03:14:29 PM A walk around the v9. Smaller and lighter than s9. Also is brand new.
https://youtu.be/269S2Njib4k Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: leowonderful on March 07, 2018, 10:33:01 PM How's the noise levels (decibels, perhaps a phone meter for some estimation) and temps of the V9? Noticed they're using the new Nidec fans, I've heard both positive and negatives about those on the S9s. I wonder how good (or bad) they are on the V9s.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: suchmoon on March 07, 2018, 10:45:46 PM How's the noise levels (decibels, perhaps a phone meter for some estimation) and temps of the V9? Noticed they're using the new Nidec fans, I've heard both positive and negatives about those on the S9s. During my brief test it sounded about the same as other contemporary antminers. Can't really measure though due to overall noise in my "farm". Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Sandal_Hat on March 07, 2018, 10:53:32 PM A walk around the v9. Smaller and lighter than s9. Also is brand new. https://youtu.be/269S2Njib4k Are u sure it is brand new? Why would they produce V9 over S9? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Kenni88 on March 08, 2018, 02:04:30 AM A walk around the v9. Smaller and lighter than s9. Also is brand new. https://youtu.be/269S2Njib4k Are u sure it is brand new? Why would they produce V9 over S9? In exact condition as my s9..as new. Smells new...dont know. As long as it hashes, its all good. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on March 08, 2018, 03:25:29 AM A walk around the v9. Smaller and lighter than s9. Also is brand new. https://youtu.be/269S2Njib4k Are u sure it is brand new? Why would they produce V9 over S9? In exact condition as my s9..as new. Smells new...dont know. As long as it hashes, its all good. I can confirm they seem completely new to me as well. No evidence of dust or signs of wear. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: vegascoinpool on March 08, 2018, 05:05:11 AM I can confirm they seem completely new to me as well. No evidence of dust or signs of wear. Sent you a PM yesterday... Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: toptek on March 09, 2018, 03:26:37 AM A walk around the v9. Smaller and lighter than s9. Also is brand new. https://youtu.be/269S2Njib4k Are u sure it is brand new? Why would they produce V9 over S9? In exact condition as my s9..as new. Smells new...dont know. As long as it hashes, its all good. I can confirm they seem completely new to me as well. No evidence of dust or signs of wear. I bought 2, only bought them because i have Solar the one i got to day seems new, looks new, has been running for about 8 hours with no HW errors yet, at a good steady stable 4 th ... may overclock it some later on . temps B1 5o c B2 47c B3 53c haven't measured the power usage, probable won't . to me the only set back that makes it useless is the power it uses, I 'm mining BCH with a A6 .. for the hell of it . in fact i bought my two from CryptoCrane on amazon , wonder if the guy here is the same one ?. no big deal if not i don't really care ... i had to ask out of wonder. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on March 09, 2018, 03:39:23 AM I'm measuring 950 watts from the wall when using an APW3++ on 220v power.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: toptek on March 09, 2018, 03:47:52 AM Ive got it on 110 line right now with 2 1200 watts hp 80 % psu running at 900 watts each,their to loud to keep in the room, I keep my GPU's and A6 were the 220 line is, Monday 19 th I'm having another 220 line put in that room ...which is sound proofed, later this month, i have a L3 plus coming and have a A4, i may sell it's being fixed, i hope .
The sad part is they refreshed some S7. the chips used are the same chips as the S7 chips like everyone is saying but i knew that when i bought 2, i just wanted two new toys mostly. they were cheap, i have solar power, so why not .. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: mikespax on March 14, 2018, 09:22:12 AM I got one hash board down already out of 10 new units so far. We'll see how the warranty process with Bitmain is.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Kenni88 on March 16, 2018, 12:40:25 AM I got one hash board down already out of 10 new units so far. We'll see how the warranty process with Bitmain is. I have a control board on order :-\ Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: mikespax on March 16, 2018, 08:33:59 AM Do you just email support to start a warranty repair or is there a special link?
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: suchmoon on March 16, 2018, 01:12:20 PM Do you just email support to start a warranty repair or is there a special link? Try this: https://shop-repair.bitmain.com/user/afterSale/repairHeaderList?locale=en Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: toptek on March 16, 2018, 07:57:47 PM I got one hash board down already out of 10 new units so far. We'll see how the warranty process with Bitmain is. I have a control board on order :-\ hey man what happen when your controller went up ?. i think i have a bad one . Kenni88 thanks for the PM back . posting here for others that may have bought this junk .. Don't set it to a Static IP : you may have to get a new controller til they fix the firmware, if that's what it is . Setting it static does something and messes it up ...an you can't access it any more, Leave it at dhcp, i guess till bitmain posts a firmware fix, if that's it. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: leowonderful on March 17, 2018, 06:25:23 PM It sells much better than if they would sold those as S7 miners like they are. Well, by releasing the V9 Bitmain gets the opportunity to sell old BM1385 chips in 'new' form, so that's one reason why it's selling like it is now. If they had sold S7s as used I guarantee there'd have been less buyers.If you'd read a few pages back you'll find the V9 design overall is slightly different than that of the S7, like the hashboard with L3 markings and outer casing. They're not exactly the same, but they are closely related with most specs. Given this, there would've been implications selling these as plain S7s, and most people want a more efficient miner nowadays anyways, as mining profitability on the S7s is dropping like a rock. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on March 17, 2018, 08:20:52 PM We're seeing a TON of demand for the V9 series from customers in Venezuela. Seems like 2/3 of our bulk orders are going to freight forwarding companies in Miami. Plenty of folks from countries with subsidized electricity rates are happy to have these little guys.
Side note, we can confirm that setting a static IP address will brick the controller. We've had to replace 3 units thus far from customers who found this out the hard way. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on March 17, 2018, 08:24:22 PM Wow, that's bad engineering if setting a static IP address can actually brick the machine.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on March 18, 2018, 02:19:55 AM Wow, that's bad engineering if setting a static IP address can actually brick the machine. Looks like a new firmware was released on March 12th (https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=00720180209143442409014df2DA0612). We're testing it now to see if it fixes the problem. We're planning to communicate with all existing customers soon and it would be nice to have a fix in-hand. Update: We've tested a couple units running the stock firmware from February 26th and could not reproduce the issue. All V9s successfully accepted static IP addresses and were still accessible after a reboot. We also tested the new March 12th firmware and found the same thing. We have a couple of V9s being returned to us right now that supposedly have the issue, so we'll update when we get our hands on them to troubleshoot. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Kenni88 on March 18, 2018, 06:25:16 PM Wow, that's bad engineering if setting a static IP address can actually brick the machine. Looks like a new firmware was released on March 12th (https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=00720180209143442409014df2DA0612). We're testing it now to see if it fixes the problem. We're planning to communicate with all existing customers soon and it would be nice to have a fix in-hand. Update: We've tested a couple units running the stock firmware from February 26th and could not reproduce the issue. All V9s successfully accepted static IP addresses and were still accessible after a reboot. We also tested the new March 12th firmware and found the same thing. We have a couple of V9s being returned to us right now that supposedly have the issue, so we'll update when we get our hands on them to troubleshoot. Great news. Is there anyway in updating the firmware when there is no access into the miner interface?? Could there be a way via using an SD card? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: microtechies on March 20, 2018, 07:54:40 PM Had mine arrive today, only tested one so far but Nicehash only works for a few mins then doesn't pick up anything and Slushpool gets around 45% rejected shares rate :S
Will test the others tomorrow BTW yes I have updated the firmware to the latest version Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on March 20, 2018, 09:51:10 PM Had mine arrive today, only tested one so far but Nicehash only works for a few mins then doesn't pick up anything and Slushpool gets around 45% rejected shares rate :S Will test the others tomorrow BTW yes I have updated the firmware to the latest version I don't know if you have any other miners or have set up any other ones but: 1) Check your power supply. These things need a lot of good power, a cheap 1200 Watt unit will not hack it. 2) Check you network connection. Could be something there. If both of them are OK start checking the other miners as you said. If the others are good then it's just this one then it's a Bitmain issue. If the others are acting the same way, post again. There are enough of us here that we can probably figure it out. -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: microtechies on March 20, 2018, 11:28:42 PM ... Thanks I will do in the morning, Just to let you know I'm not new to mining just don't post allot on here, I have quite a few Antminers & GPUs rigs. Using Bitmain APW3 PSU & Network connection is fine. I will test the others tomorrow and post some screenshots :) Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to trim the quote from DaveF. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on March 21, 2018, 03:08:59 AM Great news. Is there anyway in updating the firmware when there is no access into the miner interface?? Could there be a way via using an SD card? Yes, it's on the Bitmain website: https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=007201604120945219855QObfk20066C (https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=007201604120945219855QObfk20066C) -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Kenni88 on March 21, 2018, 06:18:24 PM Great news. Is there anyway in updating the firmware when there is no access into the miner interface?? Could there be a way via using an SD card? Yes, it's on the Bitmain website: https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=007201604120945219855QObfk20066C (https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=007201604120945219855QObfk20066C) -Dave Thanks dave! Try that later, i have nothing to loose. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Kenni88 on March 22, 2018, 12:24:40 AM Great news. Is there anyway in updating the firmware when there is no access into the miner interface?? Could there be a way via using an SD card? Yes, it's on the Bitmain website: https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=007201604120945219855QObfk20066C (https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=007201604120945219855QObfk20066C) -Dave IT WORKS!! Managed to flash Firmware by loading the files onto SD card. Once loaded, found IP throught the IP report button. Set to static again, this time no problems. Mine on! Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on March 22, 2018, 01:09:29 AM IT WORKS!! Managed to flash Firmware by loading the files onto SD card. Once loaded, found IP throught the IP report button. Set to static again, this time no problems. Mine on! -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Kenni88 on March 22, 2018, 08:15:01 AM IT WORKS!! Managed to flash Firmware by loading the files onto SD card. Once loaded, found IP throught the IP report button. Set to static again, this time no problems. Mine on! -Dave Thanks once again 👍🏼👍🏼 Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: goodgryphon on March 22, 2018, 11:46:28 AM Just got my new V9 and I need to know how to access it, to set it up. I know not to set static ip til I update.
but with my S3 i just type in the ip address and im in, but how do I find the address for this V9? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on March 22, 2018, 01:39:42 PM Just got my new V9 and I need to know how to access it, to set it up. I know not to set static ip til I update. but with my S3 i just type in the ip address and im in, but how do I find the address for this V9? You can either log into your router to view the list of connected devices (dhcp table) or you can use an IP scanner. I prefer the router method since there is no additional software required. If you choose the IP scanner method, I would recommend using www.advanced-ip-scanner.com. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: goodgryphon on March 22, 2018, 04:06:22 PM Ok , chked the router and got the ip, I type ip into explorer and get nothing. on the miner there is blinking greenlight, on the nic caed only yellow light no blinking green light.
i have downloaded BitmainMinerTool and it can not find the miner ether.,,,,,,,,EDIT I got it up and running now but I do not see any way to set to load balance or rotate....is this a flaw or is there an update that i need? 2nd EDIT.... there seam to be a high # of "discarded" to "accepted" about 2 to 1 ratio. any ideas???? oh and what is the acceptable temp range for these units? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: supracoinman on March 24, 2018, 07:29:47 PM I would suggest no one buy this piece of trash right now. Set to a static IP and then lose access to a 600 dollar investment. Now I realize it's a toy but imagine you set your Android phone to use a static IP and then you couldn't access it without rooting and all that BS.
Then imagine the links the company gives you are just files and no instructions or anything. I can't wait for samsung to drive these hacks out of business. Does anyone have instructions. There are 3 different firmware downloads for the v9 on their site and none of them are the same. It's been sitting here a week n a half and I am just about ready to file a chargeback and throw it in the dumpster. Completely insane. Do I need to use the diskimager program and write the s2s4 image? It would appear so as that is in their tools and instructions downloads but who knows. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: goodgryphon on March 24, 2018, 08:14:38 PM I have been making sure not to set the ip.... there is a new firmware out on the 12th ,,,, it should address the issue but i have not heard of a confirmed upgrade or the setps to do it right
you think they would put out a manual whit some basic how to's..... if anyone has done this and know the steps please post......I have heard of someone unbricking there V9(look up a few post) by flashing via sd card.....This is the link they gave...https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=007201604120945219855QObfk20066C ,,,,,I hope this helps you. and let me know how it goes... I want some fetures back like load bal. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on March 24, 2018, 10:35:55 PM Ok , chked the router and got the ip, I type ip into explorer and get nothing. on the miner there is blinking greenlight, on the nic caed only yellow light no blinking green light. i have downloaded BitmainMinerTool and it can not find the miner ether.,,,,,,,,EDIT I got it up and running now but I do not see any way to set to load balance or rotate....is this a flaw or is there an update that i need? 2nd EDIT.... there seam to be a high # of "discarded" to "accepted" about 2 to 1 ratio. any ideas???? oh and what is the acceptable temp range for these units? IIRC Load balance has not been on the miners since the S5. Now it just fails over to the next one. As of now I am at 54,205 accepted and 319,784 discarded on the one miner I have here. Those numbers will depend on what pool you are mining at. -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on March 24, 2018, 10:41:07 PM I would suggest no one buy this piece of trash right now. Set to a static IP and then lose access to a 600 dollar investment. Now I realize it's a toy but imagine you set your Android phone to use a static IP and then you couldn't access it without rooting and all that BS. Then imagine the links the company gives you are just files and no instructions or anything. I can't wait for samsung to drive these hacks out of business. Does anyone have instructions. There are 3 different firmware downloads for the v9 on their site and none of them are the same. It's been sitting here a week n a half and I am just about ready to file a chargeback and throw it in the dumpster. Completely insane. Do I need to use the diskimager program and write the s2s4 image? It would appear so as that is in their tools and instructions downloads but who knows. Yes, burn the SD with the V9 image that is on that page and put it in the sd slot on the miner. It should get a DHCP address and you can go from there. The failing when setting to static seems to be a bit random. I have done many with no issues. Some people have had 1 or 2 not work. -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: mammon on March 25, 2018, 12:32:12 AM Is it possible to change the frequenty and fan speed of this miner and make it more silent like an S7LN?
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on March 25, 2018, 01:13:44 AM Is it possible to change the frequenty and fan speed of this miner and make it more silent like an S7LN? Yes, fan speed is on the main settings page.Frequency is on the advanced settings page. Even at low fan speed it's still loud. I have not done any testing yet to see about power savings with the lower frequency. -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: mammon on March 25, 2018, 12:46:40 PM Thanks for the answer Dave!
I did order 10 of these, with the idea to downclock them and run them more silent. Well, if I can change the freq. and fan speed I can try things out myself :) Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on March 25, 2018, 05:21:39 PM We've lowered the price for brand new individual AntMiner V9s to match Bitmain's pricing @ $291.00 each on our Amazon store (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B3BRKYR/?m=A1LBZI6C51C6OJ) with free shipping within the US. We also have them on eBay (https://www.ebay.com/sch/cryptocrane/m.html) for $309.00 each and our own site for $291.00 each (https://cryptocrane.com) (for crypto payments and international orders).
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on March 27, 2018, 11:20:29 PM Thanks for the answer Dave! Did some basic testing today. Looks like it's a even drop of power as you drop frequency at least on the one I tested.I did order 10 of these, with the idea to downclock them and run them more silent. Well, if I can change the freq. and fan speed I can try things out myself :) There seems to be a lot of variation in the units in power draw and temp. Between the best and the worst it's close to 20% On the one I tested if you drop the frequency from 600 to 500 you drop the power used by about 15% I could get it cool and almost silent by dropping the frequency to 412 and only running boards 1 and 3 It's only 1.8T to 1.9T at that point but I could run the fans at just under 3K RPM and it was still cool. I'll test more tomorrow if I have time. -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: QuarterMaster on March 29, 2018, 04:47:04 PM We've lowered the price for brand new individual AntMiner V9s to match Bitmain's pricing @ $291.00 each on our Amazon store (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B3BRKYR/?m=A1LBZI6C51C6OJ) with free shipping within the US. We also have them on eBay (https://www.ebay.com/sch/cryptocrane/m.html) for $309.00 each and our own site for $291.00 each (https://cryptocrane.com) (for crypto payments and international orders). Awesome. Ty. Perfect for hobby miners, schools to use as a teaching tool and those with .05/KWh or less. Does anybody know of these use voltage regulators/buck for the chip voltage or are they set up with string voltage like the S5 was. If using string voltage you can use a step down buck converter on the out of the PSU to run them at a slightly less voltage (11.0v-11.7v) and under clock for better efficiency/heat/noise. Something like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0747QDRW9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 You would have to use 3 of them (1 to each blade) and under clock but could see some power savings. Just a theory. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: donpramis on April 01, 2018, 11:14:37 AM Hi Guys,
Is this okay. The temperature reach 60 to 65 celsius on my antminer V9. Thanks https://i.imgur.com/D5oSG9g.png Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to remove inline image tags. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Procaius on April 01, 2018, 01:27:07 PM The price on these things have really come down. I just bought a used one for $200 and an APW3++ for $200 off Amazon. This will be my first foray into bitcoin mining and from the research I did there really isn't any cheaper way to get 4TH/s than an Antminer V9.
My electricity rate up here in Canada is 0.04 kWh so I should definitely be seeing profit. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: -EOS- on April 01, 2018, 08:04:31 PM The price on these things have really come down. I just bought a used one for $200 and an APW3++ for $200 off Amazon. This will be my first foray into bitcoin mining and from the research I did there really isn't any cheaper way to get 4TH/s than an Antminer V9. My electricity rate up here in Canada is 0.04 kWh so I should definitely be seeing profit. How loud are these miners? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on April 02, 2018, 12:35:05 AM The price on these things have really come down. I just bought a used one for $200 and an APW3++ for $200 off Amazon. This will be my first foray into bitcoin mining and from the research I did there really isn't any cheaper way to get 4TH/s than an Antminer V9. My electricity rate up here in Canada is 0.04 kWh so I should definitely be seeing profit. How loud are these miners? Presumably as loud as the S7 miners are. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: toptek on April 02, 2018, 07:48:11 PM How loud are these miners? Presumably as loud as the S7 miners are. Indeed they are or as loud as any of the new ones from but main around 76 DB . but you can either make a sound box or buy one off ebay and run it at 100 % an even over clocked it if you want in the box the DB drop to normal levels or were you can sleep in the same room . I made a sound box /hotbox whatever you want a call it for one of my D3's and it works Great ..... My electricity rate up here in Canada is 0.04 kWh so I should definitely be seeing profit. yes you should right now till id say some time into the 3Q of this year, it won't be much you might even hit ROI if that's your bag or worry because of the price of the miner an depending on what the Diff stays at with them testing new stuff . . with solar it's the same just watch the meters with solar an the disconnect to the power company at nite unless your off the gild . . if your power is high without using solar . The price on these things have really come down. I just bought a used one for $200 and an APW3++ for $200 off Amazon. This will be my first foray into bitcoin mining and from the research I did there really isn't any cheaper way to get 4TH/s than an Antminer V9. an yes again i can't believe there is fools still selling S7 for more then the V9 i just hope whoever buys these things shops and learns not to buy a S7 when the V9 is basically a S7 at a lot cheaper price. it amazes me the greed of some... when there is more then enough to go around . Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to correct erroneous quote formatting. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on April 03, 2018, 09:58:02 PM Just as an FYI if you set the speed too low you might have a board drop out.
I was testing to see how far I could drop it. And to see if I could get the noise down to a tolerable level to keep one in my office for testing. Below 412 one of the board would go all xxxxxx after a little while. Above that it's fine. So there might be a bottom limit on some of these. -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Kenni88 on April 05, 2018, 11:29:05 PM Did some power consumption tests on the V9. Using OEM Bitmain APW 3 Psu.
~1370watts!!!!!!!!!!!! Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: TracerX on April 07, 2018, 10:52:30 PM I know this is a crazy question, but can anyone let me know if this device supports the cgminer API set like the S9 does?
Cheers. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on April 08, 2018, 04:39:40 PM I know this is a crazy question, but can anyone let me know if this device supports the cgminer API set like the S9 does? Cheers. Can you give me an easy way to test for what you want? I don't have full access to them from where I am now, but if it's simple I can try to carve out sometime tomorrow or Tuesday. -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: trall4547 on April 09, 2018, 07:57:18 PM Anyone else see an unusually high number of rejected shares?
About 2/3 rejected to accepted. 0 hardware errors Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: TracerX on April 10, 2018, 02:45:32 PM I know this is a crazy question, but can anyone let me know if this device supports the cgminer API set like the S9 does? Cheers. Can you give me an easy way to test for what you want? I don't have full access to them from where I am now, but if it's simple I can try to carve out sometime tomorrow or Tuesday. -Dave Cheers. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaveF on April 13, 2018, 10:05:48 PM I know this is a crazy question, but can anyone let me know if this device supports the cgminer API set like the S9 does? Cheers. Can you give me an easy way to test for what you want? I don't have full access to them from where I am now, but if it's simple I can try to carve out sometime tomorrow or Tuesday. -Dave Cheers. -Dave Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: toptek on April 14, 2018, 12:40:14 AM I know this is a crazy question, but can anyone let me know if this device supports the cgminer API set like the S9 does? Cheers. Yea it does . it use CGminer as the soft ware miner . Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: remnokc on April 14, 2018, 01:54:15 AM hmm, seeing $199 with free shipping on ebay as I type this. Wish I could look into it for a half dozen of these or so, but I just purchased two s9s which have tapped me out for the time being.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: TracerX on April 16, 2018, 01:55:41 PM I know this is a crazy question, but can anyone let me know if this device supports the cgminer API set like the S9 does? Cheers. Yea it does . it use CGminer as the soft ware miner . Can you set the access control for the API, e.g. specify which IP can write and which can only read? I didn't see a section in the screenshots that shot a place to input that information. Cheers. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sami3121 on April 25, 2018, 04:49:28 PM Great news. Is there anyway in updating the firmware when there is no access into the miner interface?? Could there be a way via using an SD card? Yes, it's on the Bitmain website: https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=007201604120945219855QObfk20066C (https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=007201604120945219855QObfk20066C) -Dave IT WORKS!! Managed to flash Firmware by loading the files onto SD card. Once loaded, found IP throught the IP report button. Set to static again, this time no problems. Mine on! Can Someone please share the IMG file for the V9 firmware so i can flash it on my miner. I incorrectly configured the static IP address and now i cant log into the machine. I'm not sure what files to copy onto my SD card for the flash. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: suchmoon on April 25, 2018, 05:12:53 PM Can Someone please share the IMG file for the V9 firmware so i can flash it on my miner. I incorrectly configured the static IP address and now i cant log into the machine. I'm not sure what files to copy onto my SD card for the flash. Did you try resetting the miner? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sami3121 on April 25, 2018, 05:35:42 PM Can Someone please share the IMG file for the V9 firmware so i can flash it on my miner. I incorrectly configured the static IP address and now i cant log into the machine. I'm not sure what files to copy onto my SD card for the flash. Did you try resetting the miner? Thank you for the response. The reset button on the V9's I have dont do anything. I can hold them down for over a mintue and still no beep. I formatted an SD card with FAT32 and copied the firmware files bitmain posted for the V9 Miner onto the SD card. I then inserted the SD card into the miner and turned it on. The fans started spinning at max and now both the red and green led are staying on. Ethernet light is flashing but nothing is showing up on my router. Any ideads? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: suchmoon on April 25, 2018, 08:47:55 PM The reset button on the V9's I have dont do anything. I can hold them down for over a mintue and still no beep. I formatted an SD card with FAT32 and copied the firmware files bitmain posted for the V9 Miner onto the SD card. I then inserted the SD card into the miner and turned it on. The fans started spinning at max and now both the red and green led are staying on. Ethernet light is flashing but nothing is showing up on my router. Any ideads? Have you tried this: https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=007201604120945219855QObfk20066C Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to remove nested quotes. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sami3121 on April 27, 2018, 02:40:41 AM Have you tried this: https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=007201604120945219855QObfk20066C I tried formatting my SD card then i copied the files from the link you posted onto this sd card. Is this the proper way to make the sd card readable for the miner? Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to remove nested quotes. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: toptek on April 27, 2018, 05:21:49 PM The reset button on the V9's I have dont do anything. I can hold them down for over a mintue and still no beep. I formatted an SD card with FAT32 and copied the firmware files bitmain posted for the V9 Miner onto the SD card. I then inserted the SD card into the miner and turned it on. The fans started spinning at max and now both the red and green led are staying on. Ethernet light is flashing but nothing is showing up on my router. Any ideads? you may not have incorrectly configured the static IP address address i had a V9 the Controller went up after i tried to set the static IP address a few others in this post a few pages back had the same problem, i had to get the V9 replaced. the two i have now work great on a static IP. it doesn't happen to everyone,I believe it's the same controller used on the S9 an T 9 .. I Know for sure it is not the same controller used on the L3+ AND D3 ... Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to remove nested quotes. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: chrisbfrpky on May 03, 2018, 02:01:31 PM I tried formatting my SD card then i copied the files from the link you posted onto this sd card. Is this the proper way to make the sd card readable for the miner? If you formatted the SD card, normally just copying the files will not create a bootable disc. The software is based on an image and not an exe file. You'll need to do an internet search and find a program to burn the image to disc, in your case it will burn the image to the SD card. My comp came with an iso viewer that also burns images to disc, you may have something like it already installed on yours. I used it to burn an image to my old S-2 SD card and it worked perfectly. Sometimes just a right click on the image file will bring up a menu that will allow you to burn the image to disc. Hopefully your comp came with something too. I'm sure you already know but for anyone that may not, they need to download an IP scanner to search their network for the miner during the first boot up or anytime the V-9 is set to DHCP. After finding the miner, sign in with username "root" and password "root" to set the network and static IP settings. Chris B. Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to remove nested quotes. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: rfisher1968 on May 05, 2018, 08:40:39 PM When I extract the file(Antminer-V9-20180312-600M) that I downloaded from bitmain, it does not have a img file. How do I extract as a img file?
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: zac123 on May 16, 2018, 09:10:14 AM Had mine arrive today, only tested one so far but Nicehash only works for a few mins then doesn't pick up anything and Slushpool gets around 45% rejected shares rate :S Will test the others tomorrow BTW yes I have updated the firmware to the latest version i have this problem too. did you find a solution? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Andy1969 on May 21, 2018, 12:42:08 PM When I extract the file(Antminer-V9-20180312-600M) that I downloaded from bitmain, it does not have a img file. How do I extract as a img file? Hi. I downloaded the firmware update from bitmain and extracted it to my desktop with winzip. I then opened the antminer mining software, clicked upgrade and at the bottom of that page was the was an option to update firmware from the folder I had on the desktop. Took around 3 mins to update to latest firmware, and no need for the sd card. Hope this helps.Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: evade_57 on May 22, 2018, 12:56:20 PM Received my V9 and it looks and smells new
I recommend getting a 14AWG power cord to run at 120V The standard computer grade 18AWG computer cord gets really warm at 4T/hs or run the miner at 3T/hs / 450 Mhz, the 18AWG cord doesn't get as warm and only pulling 891W at the wall here Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sgaubatz on May 24, 2018, 02:47:15 AM Does anyone know how to get this up and running? I bought one and needed help with the firmware/drivers. Can anyone give me a link?
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: microtechies on May 25, 2018, 10:14:48 AM Does anyone know how to get this up and running? I bought one and needed help with the firmware/drivers. Can anyone give me a link? You can find the v9 firmware here https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=00720180209143442409014df2DA0612 Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: gekkeleo on May 27, 2018, 06:32:09 PM good evening,
do someone know if its possible to use starting diff. i thought for cgminer, u use something like this --suggest-diff 2000.in the password field. but it doesn't work for me. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sgaubatz on May 28, 2018, 11:36:48 PM You can find the v9 firmware here https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=00720180209143442409014df2DA0612 So, I take everything in this file and put it onto an SD card, correct. Then I slip the SD card into the slot on the device. I then turn it on and it should be ready to hash? Am I correct, or will I run into any other issues? I have gotten more help through Bitcoin Talk than through Bitmain CS. Thanks Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on May 29, 2018, 01:03:02 PM Does anyone know how to get this up and running? I bought one and needed help with the firmware/drivers. Can anyone give me a link? Firmware? Drivers?They are stand-alone miners and are plug and play, no drivers needed. Just provide correct power, internet connection, browse to setup page and run. Firmware rarely needs to be changed. Have you even looked at a Bitmain manual? S9 manual is here (https://file.bitmain.com/shop-bitmain/download/AntMiner%20S9%20Installation%20Guide.pdf) Setup will be same for yours. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sgaubatz on May 30, 2018, 04:05:58 PM Firmware? Drivers? They are stand-alone miners and are plug and play, no drivers needed. Just provide correct power, internet connection, browse to setup page and run. Firmware rarely needs to be changed. Have you even looked at a Bitmain manual? S9 manual is here (https://file.bitmain.com/shop-bitmain/download/AntMiner%20S9%20Installation%20Guide.pdf) Setup will be same for yours. Okay, I tried putting the firmware onto an SD card. I put the firmware assist on there also. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. I have both red and green LED on when I power on the device. I feel like I am a step closer to getting up and running. I tried this manual and downloaded the IP thing. I press the IP button for five seconds or more and no beep. What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sami3121 on June 18, 2018, 04:27:47 AM I've had a bunch of issues with these machines. Tried to flash new firmware on one unit via SD card slot after incorrectly configuring the static IP once. The reset button does nothing on any of my machines. When i tried to flash the new firmware all that happened was the machine fans started spinning at max RPM and now both the green and red LED remain on. The machine does not pop up on my LAN. Please let me know if you find a way to flash the system or if you've found a way to reset your system.
Additionally try looking through your browser password history to the last good password on the V9 machine you're having issues logging into. It is possible you changed the password and maybe forgot? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: jwright412 on June 18, 2018, 11:52:05 PM I've seen several comments about high numbers of rejected shares. I'm having the same issue unless I mine on extremely low difficulty. Has anyone found a solution to this problem?
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: CryptoCrane on June 19, 2018, 06:09:33 PM I've seen several comments about high numbers of rejected shares. I'm having the same issue unless I mine on extremely low difficulty. Has anyone found a solution to this problem? Hi JWright412, Most often, high reject rates are related to having poor latency between you and the pool you're using. The 2nd most common cause is an overwhelmed (or poorly configured) pool. Rejected shares typically do not indicate a problem with the device itself. I would highly recommend trying a different pool. We have found pool.bitcoin.com to work quite well with our V9s during testing. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: sami3121 on June 19, 2018, 08:20:16 PM since you have a few V9's any chance you've been able to restore a control board using the SD card slot I've been on this fourm for a month now posting about this issue i'm having with my V9. If so how did you so it? I'd really appreciate any help you many have.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH - Password no work Post by: longman77 on June 22, 2018, 06:25:32 PM Is there a problem with V9 login? The V9 that I have gets past login. The V9 has spinning fans, hot air and flashing green lights. I can find IP with advanced IP. When I put that IP into Firefox or Chrome browser I get the proper login form. When I type in the (user name) root and (password) root then hit enter, the login form goes away briefly then comes back with the user name and password blank. When looked at with AdvancedIP click on V9 entry it says "does not have permission".
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH - Password no work Post by: zac123 on June 26, 2018, 09:41:08 AM Is there a problem with V9 login? The V9 that I have gets past login. The V9 has spinning fans, hot air and flashing green lights. I can find IP with advanced IP. When I put that IP into Firefox or Chrome browser I get the proper login form. When I type in the (user name) root and (password) root then hit enter, the login form goes away briefly then comes back with the user name and password blank. When looked at with AdvancedIP click on V9 entry it says "does not have permission". sounds to me like your user name and or password are incorrect. are you sure you didnt change it from root, root ? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: evade_57 on July 06, 2018, 05:00:23 PM Question for the experts:
Antminer V9 running at 450mhz and an APW3++ pulling 891W at the wall at 120V (80% rule for the PS) If I add another AP3W3++ and hook it up to two hash boards and use the original for the other hash board & controller will this be OK? I understand that the PS with the two hash boards would have to be turned on first, followed by the other PS with the hash board & controller I don't have an option to run 220V in the garage The garage circuit is on a ground fault circuit breaker in the panel and the only other load is the 8W LED post light along with the outside plugs which are not used. Safety first o/c :) Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: suchmoon on July 06, 2018, 05:15:05 PM Question for the experts: Antminer V9 running at 450mhz and an APW3++ pulling 891W at the wall at 120V (80% rule for the PS) If I add another AP3W3++ and hook it up to two hash boards and use the original for the other hash board & controller will this be OK? I understand that the PS with the two hash boards would have to be turned on first, followed by the other PS with the hash board & controller I don't have an option to run 220V in the garage The garage circuit is on a ground fault circuit breaker in the panel and the only other load is the 8W LED post light along with the outside plugs which are not used. Safety first o/c :) You can use two PSUs but that sounds like an overkill. One APW3++ is perfectly fine for the V9. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: evade_57 on July 06, 2018, 05:49:30 PM I thought so also
At 600mhz the KillAWatt meter showed almost 1200W at the wall The APW3++ is only rated for 1200W max for 120V At 450mhz I'm pulling 891W which is approx. 80% of the supply's capability at 120V I don't want to supplement with a PC power supply also Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: longman77 on July 13, 2018, 12:37:42 AM Has any one looked at the control board on a V9? It is a single board without the piggy back board most of the S3, S5, S7, S9 type controllers have.
New design maybe = new problems. Thoughts? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on July 13, 2018, 01:08:08 AM Has any one looked at the control board on a V9? It is a single board without the piggy back board most of the S3, S5, S7, S9 type controllers have. S9's have been single board since batch 17 up through at least batch-25 which are the last I bought. Bfore that Bitmain used Raspi's and BeagleBones plugged onto a FPGA/other functions board. When they changed to the ARM Cortex SoC's that single chip took over all functions.New design maybe = new problems. Thoughts? I left Bitmain when they stopped accepting BTC as payment last year. Ja they've since blinked and once again accept BTC but I don't care. Been getting Canaan's Avalons ever since and am much happier with them. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: longman77 on July 22, 2018, 03:36:53 PM Looks like the 9 series of Antminers and maybe more use LightTPD web server software in their control board software.
Found this after reading up on the fault I get -- LightTPD Unauthorized Appears that sometimes the web server is looking for id / password prior to moving on to the Antminer web pages. Any one have any ideas of what the default LightTPD id and password might be as used in Antminers. I have tried all the options available using root and/or admin = no go. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: evade_57 on July 26, 2018, 05:00:36 PM This saved my bacon with a V9 today when my password no longer worked
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3314603.0 The timing noted for resetting is very important My Antminer's IP changed also upon the reset I'm assuming the reset button does work on some V9's, hopefully most Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: evade_57 on July 28, 2018, 02:59:32 PM Anyone lose a hash board on one of these yet?
Lost one last night and no doubt due to the recent and ongoing heat Not worth sending back to Bitmain as I have $175 into the machine Options: 1) Leave it in unplugged, maintain air flow as designed 2) Remove and look for obvious sign of failure, bad cap, etc 3) Purchase new spare for $135 and keep for parts machine, fan's hash boards, etc Being old tech in design, might be better to leave as is and let it run itself down I don't have a rework station or other higher end gear/experience so not an option either Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: NorthStarGrime on August 20, 2018, 01:48:23 PM Great topic I have 10 of then V9's upgraded from s3's as a home miner but found quickley that I could not run them dew to the noise
I am currently looking to find suitable premisis to house the miners. I noticed the firmware has changed and no longer do we have as many options in the gui from say the s3's. What is everyones take on the clocking of them? Has anyone tested and found any sweet spots for the power/ hash Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: zac123 on November 03, 2018, 09:51:00 PM hello everyone,
i have a problem with my V9. it looks like i have a board down. does anyone know what is should do first please? Code: Chain# ASIC# Frequency GH/S(RT) HW Temp(PCB) ASIC status Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on November 03, 2018, 11:20:19 PM You need to replace that faulty hash board (Chain #2).
Is your warranty still valid? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: zac123 on November 04, 2018, 09:19:44 AM You need to replace that faulty hash board (Chain #2). Is your warranty still valid? Hiya I guessing the warranty is 12 months so this miner is just over that. I see on eBay boards for about £60. So I'll just get one of those I think. Looks simple enough to replace. But in your experience once they fail like this they're not fixable? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on November 04, 2018, 09:22:57 AM If you know how to do board level repairs, you can try.
But I guess you don't necessarily have experience and tools for that. You also might want to think if it makes sense to buy a new hash board. 60GBP is a high price if you think about how unefficient this V9 miner is. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: zac123 on November 04, 2018, 09:30:06 AM If you know how to do board level repairs, you can try. But I guess you don't necessarily have experience and tools for that. You also might want to think if it makes sense to buy a new hash board. 60GBP is a high price if you think about how unefficient this V9 miner is. Yes I hear ya. Woulndt bother at all with the V9s if I didn't get free elec for them. ;) Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on November 04, 2018, 09:38:09 AM Yeah, but you can get more hash rate with the same money.
https://www.cryptouniverse.at/shop/avalonminer-741-up-to-8th-s-august/ Ofc you also need Rasp Pi and power supply with this, but still something to think about. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: zac123 on November 04, 2018, 10:05:55 AM Yeah, but you can get more hash rate with the same money. https://www.cryptouniverse.at/shop/avalonminer-741-up-to-8th-s-august/ Ofc you also need Rasp Pi and power supply with this, but still something to think about. Oh! I did not even know about These! Thank you. I have a couple of my own rasp Pi. So presumably if I do some research I can use my own rather than buy theirs. Brilliant. Thanks a lot. Just ordered a couple. They are good value. I reckon 6 months for ROI. Just need to dig out the old raspberry Pi's now Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: HagssFIN on November 04, 2018, 10:53:03 PM Sounds good. Should be a better choice than a new V9 hash board.
Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaCryptoRaccoon on November 09, 2018, 02:01:50 AM anyone else having issue with no best share showing and no nonce values on the GUI of the V9's
I have a load of then and none ever show the best share I have updated them with the firmware from bitmain site but still nothing. Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: zac123 on December 03, 2018, 06:19:07 PM hello
does anyone have an old V9 that they are breaking for parts? i need some cables and the controller board zac Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaCryptoRaccoon on December 04, 2018, 12:44:23 PM hello does anyone have an old V9 that they are breaking for parts? i need some cables and the controller board zac I have 10 available PM me. can see my topics here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=763510.msg48441085#msg48441085 Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: mach123coin on September 26, 2019, 07:23:56 AM I have an unusual situation. Free power with rent as a deal with the landlord. So I picked up a T9+ but the controller quit from a mishap with oil cooling that turned conductive. (no leds, no response on ipscan, intermittent, then dead). However, my friend has a new in box V9. Is it possible to reflash a V9 board to utilize the 3 good hash boards I have on the T9+ ?
I probed the T9+ board to discover that it's not a complete circuit anymore near the cpu itself. Only partially some of the circuits are live on a logic probe. So the question is, these controller boards have six sockets for hash boards, how do they know which chips are on them, programmed beforehand? If so, then one would assume that you can flash the board for the correct hash boards attached. I'm more familiar with BIOS updates on motherboards from Intel, gpus, and not sure about the architecture driving these hash boards. ? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: milani1387 on March 30, 2020, 02:47:07 PM hi
can i overclock antminer v9 ??? please guid me..... thanks I increased the frequency in v9 miners And the Hash rates went up by 5 th/s http://uupload.ir/files/ffar_v9_test_1.jpg A few trahash can be overclocked??????? Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: DaCryptoRaccoon on March 30, 2020, 05:27:06 PM I would be wary of running the V9 at 5th you might find the boards get too hot so keep your eyes on the temps
V9's should be in the range Chips 30 - 70 MAX PCB max. 80 Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: Ortek on April 03, 2020, 11:53:55 PM The V9 boards dont overclock that well unless you want to pull a lot of Watts from the wall and use proper cooling.
Not even AB is going to solve that....i dont think Bitmain released any firmware builds that has AB enabled anyway.... Title: Re: Antminer V9 4TH Post by: thierry4wd on April 07, 2020, 10:33:25 AM hum ... V9 = S7 (remasterised)
totaly simply ! so, of corse, no AB |
