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Title: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: SocratesCoin on February 13, 2018, 03:06:53 AM
https://i.imgur.com/WM3ePxm.png?1


SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
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Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world, Nelson Mandela


WHAT IS SOCRATESCOIN?
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Socratescoin is the currency of the knowledge industry. Based on an Ethereum blockchain open source platform, Socratescoin provides a transparent and secured distributed ledger data infrastructure. It is the currency of choice for Nauka World.

Nauka World is the virtual reality enabled global education platform together with a Science to Industry ecosystem. Nauka World provides the world's leading scientific education enabling a lifelong creation of deep learning and knowledge transference.

We are pleased to announce a rich platform of digital currency, scientific breakthrough, Virtual Reality education technologies and job creation capabilities for the next century of leadership.


THE COIN OF THE KNOWLEDGE INDUSTRY
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Socratescoin has acquired patent and intellectual property rights of a unique portfolio of science originally developed by the International Space Station Russian Module - Nauka. These rights have subsequently been extended to include Nobel scientists, universities, institutions and private sector research labs around the world.

Scoratescoin has also acquired the rights for the associated scientific inventions to turn into the new technologies of tomorrow. One criterion of which science NAUKA accepts is does it solve a big enough problem for a large amount of people in order for it to be capable of becoming a $1Billion company?

Socratescoin will use a presale Token Sale to finance the introduction of its science portfolio as curriculum through Nauka University. Nauka World will house the global VR enabled Nauka University with campuses in sites of historical importance around the world. Nauka World will be a global community of faculty, students, campuses and curriculum. The students will be of all ages, cultures, locations, gender and a wide range of traditional educational qualifications. Nauka University will unite science, thought leadership around the world transforming science and commercialization through education.

Scoratescoin will facilitate investment and participation in an educational revolution that combines advanced science, the internet 3.0 capabilities and an exponentially changing world directly affecting what and how we learn. The transference of knowledge and intellectual property through sensory and educational immersion will be unlike anything currently known to mankind. The first novel describing virtual reality (VR), Orinoflow was written in the sixties by the Italia science fiction writer Lino Aldani. A little more than twenty-five years later, Neal Stephenson's science fiction novel Snow Crash presented the concept of a metaverse - a collective virtual shared space. The 3D internet provides the capability to experience an Avatar populated environment where coaching, teaching, socializing can interact with shopping, learning, entertainment and commerce. Currency transactions which are increasingly e-commerce transactions are facilitated through blockchain enabled cryptocurrencies. The collective maturation of the internet, virtual reality, blockchain and cryptocurrencies offer a unique opportunity to focus on education and science.

Socratescoin is designed to propel transformational science into the minds of the modern world.



NAUKA - YOU NOW, KNOW: PLATFORM BASIC IDEAS
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We have selected a ready for market VR enabled platform which shares infrastructure designs, leverages their investment in technology. This provides for rapid implementation at reduced costs. While serious challenges have been overcome in the delivery of this infrastructure, we can now utilize this investment and the problems they solved to focus on our vision, today. We can deliver advanced educational content for a deep learning experience in a game changing fashion.

The Socratescoin enabled Nauka World can create and launch any type of VR education project without a significant capital investment and in a reduced time-to-market. While others are interested in gaming, online stores or social networks, to name a few examples, we are focusing our team of professionals and developers on science, world-changing content and the growth and engagement with a special group of like minded people. A community.
Socratescoin and Nauka World have strategically leveraged an investment of 2.5 years and $5 million of another company's personal funds into VR technology research, the making of prototypes and getting feedback from businesses. We can now be capable of coming to market in the quickest and cheapest way possible. This will enable the Socratescoin powered Nauka World to show its capabilities to not only change how people learn but to change lives, in record time. With Socratescoin backed Nauka World learning as the platform of choice, there is no need to download any client or program; no need for expensive VR-gadgets and powerful computers - just your ordinary device and a browser of your choice.



NAUKA WORLD
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NAUKA WORLD the foundation of everything - Thinking. Knowing. Living in the happiest Place of Earth. Big answers to big questions, The science and art of genius, Education Inventing a life worth living, from chaos into order.
A life of science. The science of life.



BIG POINT PLAYER
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

Big Point Player is NAUKA's first partnership and investment. It has decoded the science and art of winning and is the world's first and only, proven, replicable, modular method.
Big Point Player will be the first series of training programmes on the NAUKA platform underpinned by LIVE immersive events around the world.



EONTHY
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Eonthy's 'Science as a ServiceTM' is a combination of Scientists who specialize in Agile training, Nano technology, Photonics and Python programming. This unique relationship was born in 2015 when training a CMMI Level 5 team in Agile and Scrum to support a regional traceability initiative for the automotive sector. Our portfolio includes learning platforms for software developers, children, post-doctorate faculty, nanotechnologists, advanced photonics and Master's Level Montessori method certifiers. We have a portfolio of nano-technologies, security algorithms and combine it with mature commercialization relationships in the education, information technology, automotive and defence manufacturing sectors. We combine capital and partnerships to protect the global market development of patents, technologies and people.



NAUKA SPORTS
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Nauka has partnered with Eonthy Sports and Big Point Player acquire licensing rights to a Multi-Sport Social Media integrated App using advanced Analytics and Deep Machine Learning to create pleasure, fitness and educational experiences.



COIN ASSURITY
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Coin Assurity is a blockchain based SaaS offering that allows a unique set of features to support BlockChain investment, Asset Protection and market visibility for Crypto Currencies.



ISSUANCE OF TOKENS
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SOCRATES COIN tokens will be issued on the Ethereum network and will be freely traded on the open market. Ethereum is an open-source project which allows creation of smart contracts and provides users with a secure and fast transaction system.



SOCRATESCOIN ALLOCATION
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https://i.imgur.com/H8mEcWW.png?1



TOKEN, PRESALE AND TOKEN SALE INFO
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We are rising:                               46,900,000 USD
Symbol:                                       SAPIS
Token Sale Token Price:                 1.11 USD
Payment Methods:                        Bitcoin (BTC) & Ethereum (ETH)
Token Sale Start Date:                  February 11, 2018
Token Sale End Date:                    April 11, 2018
Total Supply:                                469,000,000 SAPIS TOKENS
Initial Token Distribution Date:       15 days after Token Sale completion



TOKEN SALE GOALS, LIMITS AND FUND DISTRIBUTION
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When we collect the equivalent of $46.9M, the Token Sale will close at that moment and no additional funds will be accepted.

Since we will be accepting different currencies, we will evaluate all our Token Sale income at the time of token purchase. That means a buyer of our tokens in the Token Sale period will get the exact amount of tokens that their bitcoins or ether will be worth at the time of transaction. CoinDesk USD exchange rates will be used in the process.

SAPIS token distribution will be provided in 15 days after Token Sale completion, taking all checks and safeguards into account. Socratescoin will provide high grade liquidity for blockchain based project Nauka World. Trading of tokens SAPIS limited will promote and add Socratescoin tokens to as many marketplaces as possible

More detail information about our mission along with team members is presented on our official web page and in WHITEPAPER -> https://socratescoin.io/whitepaper.pdf (https://socratescoin.io/whitepaper.pdf).
For the latest news, articles, interviews, videos follow our social media pages.



CONTACT
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SocratesCoin website: https://socratescoin.io
Twitter: https://twitter.com/socratescoin
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/socratescoin
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZeIwhCwRbcd916p4SUgDXA?view_as=subscriber
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/socratescoin
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Socreatescoin
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/socrates-coin-b653a9157
Snapchat: socratescoin
E-mail: support@socratescoin.io


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: gold969 on February 13, 2018, 05:01:48 AM
https://i.imgur.com/WM3ePxm.png?1


SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world, Nelson Mandela


WHAT IS SOCRATESCOIN?
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

Socratescoin is the currency of the knowledge industry. Based on an Ethereum blockchain open source platform, Socratescoin provides a transparent and secured distributed ledger data infrastructure. It is the currency of choice for Nauka World.

Nauka World is the virtual reality enabled global education platform together with a Science to Industry ecosystem. Nauka World provides the world's leading scientific education enabling a lifelong creation of deep learning and knowledge transference.

We are pleased to announce a rich platform of digital currency, scientific breakthrough, Virtual Reality education technologies and job creation capabilities for the next century of leadership.


THE COIN OF THE KNOWLEDGE INDUSTRY
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

Socratescoin has acquired patent and intellectual property rights of a unique portfolio of science originally developed by the International Space Station Russian Module - Nauka. These rights have subsequently been extended to include Nobel scientists, universities, institutions and private sector research labs around the world.

Scoratescoin has also acquired the rights for the associated scientific inventions to turn into the new technologies of tomorrow. One criterion of which science NAUKA accepts is does it solve a big enough problem for a large amount of people in order for it to be capable of becoming a $1Billion company?

Socratescoin will use a presale Token Sale to finance the introduction of its science portfolio as curriculum through Nauka University. Nauka World will house the global VR enabled Nauka University with campuses in sites of historical importance around the world. Nauka World will be a global community of faculty, students, campuses and curriculum. The students will be of all ages, cultures, locations, gender and a wide range of traditional educational qualifications. Nauka University will unite science, thought leadership around the world transforming science and commercialization through education.

Scoratescoin will facilitate investment and participation in an educational revolution that combines advanced science, the internet 3.0 capabilities and an exponentially changing world directly affecting what and how we learn. The transference of knowledge and intellectual property through sensory and educational immersion will be unlike anything currently known to mankind. The first novel describing virtual reality (VR), Orinoflow was written in the sixties by the Italia science fiction writer Lino Aldani. A little more than twenty-five years later, Neal Stephenson's science fiction novel Snow Crash presented the concept of a metaverse - a collective virtual shared space. The 3D internet provides the capability to experience an Avatar populated environment where coaching, teaching, socializing can interact with shopping, learning, entertainment and commerce. Currency transactions which are increasingly e-commerce transactions are facilitated through blockchain enabled cryptocurrencies. The collective maturation of the internet, virtual reality, blockchain and cryptocurrencies offer a unique opportunity to focus on education and science.

Socratescoin is designed to propel transformational science into the minds of the modern world.



NAUKA - YOU NOW, KNOW: PLATFORM BASIC IDEAS
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

We have selected a ready for market VR enabled platform which shares infrastructure designs, leverages their investment in technology. This provides for rapid implementation at reduced costs. While serious challenges have been overcome in the delivery of this infrastructure, we can now utilize this investment and the problems they solved to focus on our vision, today. We can deliver advanced educational content for a deep learning experience in a game changing fashion.

The Socratescoin enabled Nauka World can create and launch any type of VR education project without a significant capital investment and in a reduced time-to-market. While others are interested in gaming, online stores or social networks, to name a few examples, we are focusing our team of professionals and developers on science, world-changing content and the growth and engagement with a special group of like minded people. A community.
Socratescoin and Nauka World have strategically leveraged an investment of 2.5 years and $5 million of another company's personal funds into VR technology research, the making of prototypes and getting feedback from businesses. We can now be capable of coming to market in the quickest and cheapest way possible. This will enable the Socratescoin powered Nauka World to show its capabilities to not only change how people learn but to change lives, in record time. With Socratescoin backed Nauka World learning as the platform of choice, there is no need to download any client or program; no need for expensive VR-gadgets and powerful computers - just your ordinary device and a browser of your choice.



NAUKA WORLD
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

NAUKA WORLD the foundation of everything - Thinking. Knowing. Living in the happiest Place of Earth. Big answers to big questions, The science and art of genius, Education Inventing a life worth living, from chaos into order.
A life of science. The science of life.



BIG POINT PLAYER
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

Big Point Player is NAUKA's first partnership and investment. It has decoded the science and art of winning and is the world's first and only, proven, replicable, modular method.
Big Point Player will be the first series of training programmes on the NAUKA platform underpinned by LIVE immersive events around the world.



EONTHY
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

Eonthy's 'Science as a ServiceTM' is a combination of Scientists who specialize in Agile training, Nano technology, Photonics and Python programming. This unique relationship was born in 2015 when training a CMMI Level 5 team in Agile and Scrum to support a regional traceability initiative for the automotive sector. Our portfolio includes learning platforms for software developers, children, post-doctorate faculty, nanotechnologists, advanced photonics and Master's Level Montessori method certifiers. We have a portfolio of nano-technologies, security algorithms and combine it with mature commercialization relationships in the education, information technology, automotive and defence manufacturing sectors. We combine capital and partnerships to protect the global market development of patents, technologies and people.



NAUKA SPORTS
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

Nauka has partnered with Eonthy Sports and Big Point Player acquire licensing rights to a Multi-Sport Social Media integrated App using advanced Analytics and Deep Machine Learning to create pleasure, fitness and educational experiences.



COIN ASSURITY
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

Coin Assurity is a blockchain based SaaS offering that allows a unique set of features to support BlockChain investment, Asset Protection and market visibility for Crypto Currencies.



ISSUANCE OF TOKENS
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

SOCRATES COIN tokens will be issued on the Ethereum network and will be freely traded on the open market. Ethereum is an open-source project which allows creation of smart contracts and provides users with a secure and fast transaction system.



SOCRATESCOIN ALLOCATION
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

https://i.imgur.com/H8mEcWW.png?1



TOKEN, PRESALE AND TOKEN SALE INFO
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂


We are rising:                               46,900,000 USD
Symbol:                                       SAPIS
Token Sale Token Price:                 1.11 USD
Payment Methods:                         Bitcoin (BTC) & Ethereum (ETH)
Token Sale Start Date:                   February 11, 2018
Token Sale End Date:                     March 11, 2018
Total Supply:                                 469,000,000 SAPIS TOKENS
Initial Token Distribution Date:       15 days after Token Sale completion



TOKEN SALE GOALS, LIMITS AND FUND DISTRIBUTION
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂

When we collect the equivalent of $46.9M, the Token Sale will close at that moment and no additional funds will be accepted.

Since we will be accepting different currencies, we will evaluate all our Token Sale income at the time of token purchase. That means a buyer of our tokens in the Token Sale period will get the exact amount of tokens that their bitcoins or ether will be worth at the time of transaction. CoinDesk USD exchange rates will be used in the process.

SAPIS token distribution will be provided in 15 days after Token Sale completion, taking all checks and safeguards into account. Socratescoin will provide high grade liquidity for blockchain based project Nauka World. Trading of tokens SAPIS limited will promote and add Socratescoin tokens to as many marketplaces as possible

More detail information about our mission along with team members is presented on our official web page and in Whitepaper. For the latest news, articles, interviews, videos follow our social media pages.



CONTACT
▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂


SocratesCoin website: https://socratescoin.io
Twitter: https://twitter.com/socratescoin
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/socratescoin
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZeIwhCwRbcd916p4SUgDXA?view_as=subscriber
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/socratescoin
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Socreatescoin
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/socrates-coin-b653a9157
Snapchat: socratescoin
E-mail: support@socratescoin.io



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Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: shiki0 on February 13, 2018, 11:28:10 PM
Best of luck!


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on February 17, 2018, 05:41:18 AM
I m looking already for a longer time for a oportunity to invest money in education. As there are not many options. Today the odem.io ico is launching. I am investigating that project as well. Your whitepaper is not that clear as i dont know what exactely are you going to do with the tokens. How do they generate value? Just on free market trading? Which exchanges are you going to be listed on? I saw that you already raised >7M$. That is strange to me because you dont make a lot of publicity such other projects do for their icos. Can you proof that you already raised that money and expose the addresses where the eth or btc are on it? Would create a lot of confidence. Thx.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Mr.Troll on February 23, 2018, 07:44:42 PM
This whitepaper has 0 information about you and has nothing to do with a legit ico.
 Where does the money go you collect? Do you even know what a blockchain is?!
Oh and you got already busted on reddit  ;D

https://amp.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/?__twitter_impression=true



Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on February 24, 2018, 07:39:26 AM
Sorry guys your project is very unknown in relation to the odem project and you already raised almost twice as much. That seems very strange to me. Can i see at least the contract address or the erc20 tokens? I did some research about the team and i saw Dr. Alfred Hasselbacher was involved in many suspecious things like sellig dietpills. https://www.gesund-heilfasten.de/diaet/blog/zyloslim-mitoslim-nuvocleanse/ This quack pretend to be the founder of a big movement. Lol. I wrote an email to unesco for proofing if they are realy a partner of this strange project. I will post the answear here. Please dont invest before guys many, too many red flags in this ico. Im pretty sure also the showed raised amoúnt on their website is faked.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on February 26, 2018, 08:55:06 AM
I had a short conversation on facebook with one of the leaders. After deleting a bad comment on facebook he wrote it started.
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___________________________________conversation start________________________________________
Socratescoin:
Hi! if you are such an advocate of blockchain and its transparency then lets hop on a call for all the things you did not get IF you actually read the whitepaper and understood any!
and then go to comment it with a reddit post which has no actual proof and all will be answered and addressed!
Me:
just give me the eth adress of the erc20 tokens and the contractaddress which handle the distribution of the tokens. The proof that you raised already 8M+$ then we can continue discussion.
Please there is a bitcointalk threat. Let do an open discussion
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2937986.0

Socratescoin:
thumb up.

One day later

Me:
still waiting for your answears on btctalk. Answear to the last post please.

Socratescoin:
I’m travelling to Bangkok and Dubai!

And the questions will all be answered as mentioned and my PR team is getting all ready!

And do not know your hurry as you claim and do accusations without proof and knowing!

Have a great day! ????

Me:
Of course you dont ??????For you it is better that nobody does research on your scam and that you can catch as much people as possible. You can also delegate your job of answearing questions on your partners. I participated in a lot of icos. usualy serios teams answear on btctalk immediately as they are interrested to enlight the community. Your behavior (i am travelling to bangkok instead, how rediculous is that???) is a further red flag in my opinion. ??

Socratescoin:
You can research as much as you want!
And I even reply to your comments and asked you to jump on a call!
And can show you all!

Me:
I will post our conversation in btctalk let continue there please
please answear in btctalk why to you have time to answear here?

Socratescoin:
Because I’m on my phone and asked you gently if you want to jump on a call and I can clear all your questions!
Even if I do not have to!
If you keep attacking
And I answered to you personally!
Me:
no i want that you do it for the public not like in the article your cofounder did. CC is a community thing ok. Its not only me having those questions. Each  conscientious experienced investor has those questions...

Socratescoin:
I answered to you personally as you claimed and give accusations without proof! And asked if you want to hop on a call!

Me:
ok lets continue on btctalk
__________________________________end of conversation_______________


Please just proof that you rised more then 8M$ already. That is very easy, its fastly done and a big proof. We dont even have to talk a lot about then. I find thats a good solution. If you are able i will revoke my accuses. You have just to disclose the addresses of which you are owner of. Sign the following text with the related private keys (without quotation marks): 'We from Socratescoin will singn this text for proof' and thats it.

Not answearing all the time, trying so gain time its a strategy witch i experienced in a lot of scamprojects during the sensible phase of the ico. Of course its better for you ;). A well known one was beth.jp. Last year. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921164.0

Greez


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: MrsPiggy on February 26, 2018, 03:16:13 PM
Thank you JohnGN for stepping up against them and trying to gain further information!

For those who don´t know me, I am the one who made the post on reddit to which their CMO Virginia Salas Kastilio also know as Ginicanbreathe responded but failed to answer any questoins. I am in contact with friends who first wanted to invest in their project (for obvious reasons they don´t want to anymore) and a couple of people who have contacted me on reddit.

What they are doing here and there is basically psychology in sales for beginners. Don´t talk about what´s bad, better bring up something new. If there is a lack of proof for your facts try blame the opposing party that there is no proof for their accusations. Forward important questions to other people until the customer has forgotten what is acual question was. And so on.

There are major questions that are and probably will stay unanswered. Besides the fact that they fail to proof the existence of the $8M+ they still fail to provide an actually registered company and a legal address. Furthermore it was seen on social media around two weeks ago they they have bought multiple VR googles (most likely these where you have to put your phone in) to "see what the future of learning looks like". My wild guess is that they have used them to watch rollercoaster videos on YouTube because otherwise they would habe been able to show us at least an alpha of their university.

Authorities are currently looking into this and try to determine which country´s authrities are in charge to start furhter investigations since this project has no legal address. At this point it might be the only thing they have done right.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Mr.Troll on February 26, 2018, 08:26:42 PM
These 1diots are making videos of themselfes drinking champagne and dancing around in the sun while high on drugs it seems.... This is a typical behavior of networking brainwashed drones...


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on February 27, 2018, 07:19:36 AM
Assingning the scientists to the wrong siences (Hippocrates -> Physicist, Tesla -> Mathematician, Faraday -> Chemistry....) is not a red flag but it implicates a lot of incompetence. We have here a project which claims to be the coin of education (whatever that means) and they are not able to sort mankinds most famous scientists in the right way. Even too lazy to google it. It seems they think, lets do easy money, our investors are stupid anyway so we dont have to write a convincingly whitepaper.
The bitcointalk thread was launched after the ico started. Normaly project start discussions on forums a few months before the ico beginns to answear questions...
You are right mr.Troll. Their whole behavior reminds me on the pr of the mlm ponzishemes which i investigated a lot in the past (Onecoin, Habcoin, My Advertising Pays, Kairos, starad24 <- all colapses meanwhile). This brings me to Pirmin Troger. He claimes to be an Networkmarketing professional. Most of this mlm are ponzishemes. So i will do some research about him.

I find it strange that the raised amount is written directly in the sourcecode. So they update it manualy. Its not any connection to a ethereum or bitcoin node or nodeinterface. Very unprofessional. Everybody can write in the sourcecode a not proofed number.
      
Excerpt of the sourcecode of socratescoin.io website

function setContributed(){
         var hardCap = 46900000;
               var percent = (parseInt(8711330.0) / hardCap) * 100;
               $("#progress_bar span").css("width", percent+"%");
          $("#raisedsofarUSD").text("$"+parseInt(8711330.0).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ","));

setContributedBTC();
      function setContributedBTC(){
               $("#raisedsofarBTC").text(parseFloat(477.61).toFixed(2).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ",")+" BTC");
      }
      
      setContributedETH();
      function setContributedETH(){

               $("#raisedsofarETH").text(parseFloat(3649.11).toFixed(2).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ",")+" ETH");
      }


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: MrsPiggy on February 27, 2018, 01:41:54 PM
I find it strange that the raised amount is written directly in the sourcecode. So they update it manualy. Its not any connection to a ethereum or bitcoin node or nodeinterface. Very unprofessional. Everybody can write in the sourcecode a not proofed number.
      
Excerpt of the sourcecode of socratescoin.io website

function setContributed(){
         var hardCap = 46900000;
               var percent = (parseInt(8711330.0) / hardCap) * 100;
               $("#progress_bar span").css("width", percent+"%");
          $("#raisedsofarUSD").text("$"+parseInt(8711330.0).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ","));

setContributedBTC();
      function setContributedBTC(){
               $("#raisedsofarBTC").text(parseFloat(477.61).toFixed(2).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ",")+" BTC");
      }
      
      setContributedETH();
      function setContributedETH(){

               $("#raisedsofarETH").text(parseFloat(3649.11).toFixed(2).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ",")+" ETH");
      }
I haven´t collected enough data on this yet as I initially though that it would be a fixed number. Throughout the last days, just by looking at the numbers, I became very certain than the raised amount must be based on a mathematical formula updated every day.

Furthermore a few of them have attened these "how to become rich conferences" in the last year where everybody afterwards sets up their own landingpage on their way of how to become rich pretty fast. Kinda like a MLM but a little different, I think. Manuel Batista was at one of these conferences in Costa Rica last year in September. I guess that´s where hes has made the first contacts to the people included in this scam but unfortunately I haven´t found any connections yet.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on February 28, 2018, 06:01:51 AM
There is not even a formula. They just put the rough number for each value in the sourcecode on the server. ;) You see the pure values parsefloat(x  :D


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on March 01, 2018, 09:07:01 AM
A research about Pirmin Troger.
There are some footprints about Troger in the internet. Obviously he tried or tries to build different buisnesses. For example he has a youtube account where he loaded up videos which promote a sort of special screen protectors for mobile devices. He has 2 fb accounts one is probably related to the buisness with the screenprotectors. The uploaddate of the videos and the setup date of the account are more or less corresponding. Actually he seems to be from north of italy where a small german speaking minority is living. On the other hand i saw information that he tried to build a company 'cp21' in Austria. (https://firmenbuchauszug.at/Firmenbuchinformation/255DFF0CF89F1D) As shown in the web he was agent of the company lavavitave which sells controversal pills with a special stone for health. As i understand they use a mlm marketing concept. I would not evaluete it as a ponzisheme.
Furthermore i can proof that Troger had or has at least connections to people involved in ponzisheme projects. His cp21 company is registratet to the following emailaddress: ea1@einkommensarchitekten.eu. I checked for a website and i found it. www.einkommensarchitekten.com. Einkommensarchitekten means architect for income or income builder or something like this. In my words they want to show how to generate money. On the website are just 2 people for now, but if we go back in time we see there were 5 in total. Also Troger was member. The ea1 in his emailaddress probably means einkommensarchitekten1. Perhaps he is one of the leaders of this group (nr1). The waybackmachine showes a snapshot of august 2016.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160811065208/http://www.einkommensarchitekten.com:80/ Troger is on the right.
The team claims to create a perfect life with financially freedom for their customers. On the website the admit to do networkmarketing. 'We know, that you know, that we have, what you need'. The sentence scares me. One of the teammembers was on a 'my advertising pays' conference in germany. https://www.xing.com/profile/Patrick_Profanter. Just a convinced involved person posts the event on his xing profile. My advervising pays was a meanwhile colapsed ponzisheme with a huge number of victims. In my opinion the guys try to recrute new affiliates to fill their own pockets. The choice of the words and terminology reminds me on typical ponzisheme publicity methods. 'We change your life, we make you rich... blablalba'
To me its strange that Troger was involved 2016 in this einkommensarchitekten thing. 2017 he obviously tried to build a buisness with the screenprotector (maybe cp21 (cristall protector???) is related to it) and suddenly end of 2017 he is in the excecutive team of a project which claims to have already started back in 2000. Regarding this research, the costa rica conference assumtion made from Mrs. piggy is plausible in my opinion. I try to investigate the project. I admit that i cant 100% proof thats a scam but im pretty sure. I have to wait for the answear of the unesco for a clear proof. Or socratescoin proof me wrong with a disclose of the addresses with the raised funds. That will not gonna happen.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: MrsPiggy on March 01, 2018, 09:16:23 PM
A research about Pirmin Troger.
There are some footprints about Troger in the internet. Obviously he tried or tries to build different buisnesses. For example he has a youtube account where he loaded up videos which promote a sort of special screen protectors for mobile devices. He has 2 fb accounts one is probably related to the buisness with the screenprotectors. The uploaddate of the videos and the setup date of the account are more or less corresponding. Actually he seems to be from north of italy where a small german speaking minority is living. On the other hand i saw information that he tried to build a company 'cp21' in Austria. (https://firmenbuchauszug.at/Firmenbuchinformation/255DFF0CF89F1D) As shown in the web he was agent of the company lavavitave which sells controversal pills with a special stone for health. As i understand they use a mlm marketing concept. I would not evaluete it as a ponzisheme.
Good find 👍 I didn't really look into him yet as I thought that he must have been more like a bystander. But both the screen protectors and the dietary pills show huge similarities to "projects" that Alfred Hasselbacher has been involved in. I have the influenza and can barely look at may screen for longer than five minutes. Maybe you can have a look of there is a connection between them. If I remember correctly Alfred Hasselbacher's name is also shown in connection with a company registered in Austria somewhat in 2016. Spandex or so.

And by the way. They just announced on Twitter that the website (http://www.naukaworld.com) for Nauka World is finally up and running. It's a single page with a contact form... For good reasons I'm not going to show you the picture they posted on Twitter but I want to share the biggest joke I've found on that website: "Socratescoin has acquired patent and intellectual property rights of a unique portfolio of science originally developed by the International Space Station Russian Module"


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: soulcancer on March 01, 2018, 11:24:10 PM
even though most of them are dumb enough to deserve it, its nice to see people like you rooting out the scammers for the noobs...


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Mr.Troll on March 02, 2018, 04:46:21 AM
@JohnGN

I guess i was right then, when i assumed that these are networking(MLM) drones high on drugs  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: coinwoot on March 03, 2018, 12:48:09 PM
Hello,

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If you have any question about SocratesCoin ICO profile, feel free to contact us.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on March 04, 2018, 08:48:52 AM
@mrs. Piggy. I couldnt find any relation between Troger and Hasselbacher before. There is an Austrian cyclist named Rene Haselbacher. In a forum there is a thread about him and spandex pants. Maybe you saw this.
@mr.Troll Yes your post gave me the initial idea to make a research about teammembers and ponzishemes. I know that the ponzicommunity is moving from one ponzi to the next. From one froud to the next...

I got an answear of UNESCO. My mail:_______________________________________________________________________________ ____

Dear unesco,

in the internet i found a project which claimes to have a partnership with the unesco. There is actually an ico running which want to collect almoust 50M$ for educational projects. In my opinion its a scam. Can you conferm that or conferm that the partnership with the unesco is real? The projects name is socratescoin. Webpage: www.socratescoin.io. Thank you!

Kind regards

_______________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________

Answear from unesco:

Dear Mr X,


I cannot confirm affiliation with UNESCO and recommend utmost cautious for these unregulated activities.


Financial regulators usually recommend avoiding unregulated financial products. Furthermore, as a thumb rule, no investor should invest in a product he does not perfectly understand.


Best regards,

_______________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________


The guys have a new whitepaper: http://coinwoot.com/wp-content/uploads/NAUKA_WORLD_paper.pdf  congratulations. As i mentioned in a previous post they confused the scientists and the sciences.


Quote
Assingning the scientists to the wrong siences (Hippocrates -> Physicist, Tesla -> Mathematician, Faraday -> Chemistry....) is not a red flag but it    implicates a lot of incompetence.

As you see i did not continue with enumerate mistakes, made just ... In this new whitepaper the guys didnt mention each scientist i told anymore. But they assingn still marie curie to biology / health /medicine. LOL. I hope everybody see now how incompetent and simply stupid these people is. The sad thing, we are showing them to build a serious scam. In the future they will be advisors for better scams as they cant build anymore scams on their real names after this thing here. Thats im afraid about.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: MrsPiggy on March 04, 2018, 08:45:19 PM
@John: I´m not 100% again but I did a quick dive in all that I have saved under the name of Alfred Hassebacher. First I have to clarify that my memory was a little mixed up. It was sydex.net which made me find Alfred Hasselbacher`s connection to the Turin Trading International GmbH registered in Wien, Austria. There is at least one more or less known person with that name in Austria but according to Linkedin there is also one in Slowakia. I´ve to look into that tomorrow.

Furthermore I have found by accident that Mauel Batista already registered domains like socratescoin.club on Nov. 02 2017. Which didn´t stop him from registering autofloweringcoin.com and erbacoin.com later that month. His list of more than 120 registered domains shows to me that he is deperate to make some quick money online...

I think we should start a wiki or something to gather all our information.

I will check back tomorrow with the authorities who are looking into this because like John said we can´t let the just move to the next project/scam again.




Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on March 05, 2018, 07:04:23 AM
Thx MrsPiggy. You do a very good job! Hope these guys get what they deserve.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on March 10, 2018, 04:16:13 AM
Do i see right? Did they remove unesco as offical partner from their landingpage? LOL. Can anybody ask the universities of moscow, dubna and brasilia. I cant neither speak russian nor portugese. I think slowley the most naive investor is recognising that socratescoin is a hilarious bad made scam. Instead of fighting our arguments here they adapt their statements in whitepaper and website.  LOL or  :'( i dont know.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: MrsPiggy on March 11, 2018, 11:45:47 PM
Yes, you are right! While I was scrolling through the website on Saturday I noticed it too.

Good point. I actually have a guy from Brasil and one Russian speaking guy in my group. I'll ask them to contact the universities tomorrow.

Have you seen that Manuel Batista has responded on Reddit? I replied but don't expect to get another response from him.

Authorities are more and more interested in this but as long as there is no real damage done the only illegal activity is that they are not saying who or which company is in possession of the money that is invested. I am in contact with a few people that have invested in the ICO and feel more and more that they are being scammed.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on March 12, 2018, 03:32:07 AM
No i didnt see before MrsPiggy about your conversation with Batista. Good job! You expose them realy badly :), not just as scamer but even as totaly incompetent idots: Ginis try to gather people for downvoting is hilarois and a realy bad red flag. While Batista try to tackle it on a serious way but making many many mistakes and contradictions. The guys didnt expect that much resistance ;). They just think how supersmart they are and how stupid the rest of the world. Puting less then 100$ in making a webpage and whitepaper and expecting to raise 47M$.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)  
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5


If i forget anything feel free to complete.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: MrsPiggy on March 12, 2018, 03:37:04 PM
@John that is a very good list. At this point I have nothing to add to that. My #10 would be maybe that they (Gini) want people to buy BTC and then promote Coinbase and not even GDAX. Come on, just 5 mins on Google and even she would have known it better. Sheer incompetence.

They just released an interview with Alfred Hasselbacher on their facebook page. I am 99.9% sure that is from back then when they had their launch. What was the most interesting to me was that Alfred said that his vision for the university is an individual learning experience. They want to recreate those historical pleaces where you should study then and this should help you with memorizing what you have learned. In which way is that individual when everybody can book the same "experience"? To me that was just another sign that they have no idea at all. And on a personal note: Should I really trust someone who wants to pitch me something but can´t even take off his sunglasses?

Because I have been asked that a few times already I want to point something out:

This project in full is screaming scam as loud as possible. Until now we don´t know how much of it is a scam. There are many red flags but they are still on their wide spread roadmap and of course it will become interesting after the ICO. If you invest in this right now you will buy one Socratescoin for $1.11. If you don´t plan to spend it at the Nauka university your only options are hodling or selling it once it´s up for trade. The value of the socratescoins you own then depends a bit on the market itself but mostly on the university. I don´t want to question to fact if there will ever be a university but if the university will not be a big hit it is very unliky that the coin will gain some substantion value. A good example for this is the PiplCoin (https://coinmarketcap.com/de/currencies/piplcoin/#charts). According to the whitepaper (https://piplcoin.com/Whitepaper.pdf) it was sold for $1.00 during the ICO but when it was up for trading the actual value was $0.02, which went up to 11 cents then slowly declined and since Dec `17 it is around 2 cents again. Even if you would have sold your coins at the best moment  you would have still lost 90% of your investment due to promises that were never kept.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Jokerrr on March 23, 2018, 08:40:17 AM
The key element in cryptoworld is "decentralized", along with security
Although for this specific token the word "anonymous" is not really an element... because it's aiming at collecting information about people.
This put aside, this project has potential because they have an extra layer.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Miraculously on March 23, 2018, 08:44:13 AM
The key element in cryptoworld is "decentralized", along with security
Although for this specific token the word "anonymous" is not really an element... because it's aiming at collecting information about people.
This put aside, this project has potential because they have an extra layer.
I think everyone is interested in how the decentralization of this network will be organized). In my concept this is a computer on which the necessary software for the operation of this platform is installed. Roughly speaking, the server. The information is stored on it. This server is managed by someone. How can we talk about decentralization in this case? Correct, if I'm wrong.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Paparazek on March 23, 2018, 08:46:27 AM
The key element in cryptoworld is "decentralized", along with security
Although for this specific token the word "anonymous" is not really an element... because it's aiming at collecting information about people.
This put aside, this project has potential because they have an extra layer.
I think everyone is interested in how the decentralization of this network will be organized). In my concept this is a computer on which the necessary software for the operation of this platform is installed. Roughly speaking, the server. The information is stored on it. This server is managed by someone. How can we talk about decentralization in this case? Correct, if I'm wrong.
The only problem project faces at the moment is, that it needs a lot of user to build up a good social network, not the decentralization or anonymity. I hope Socrates is doing a lot of good marketing for this.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Casperok on March 23, 2018, 08:49:19 AM
At the moment, this is very promising network, the prospect of the future so nice


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: AGRE$$IV on March 23, 2018, 08:51:37 AM
At the moment, this is very promising network, the prospect of the future so nice
I think socrates will also need a unique feature, and then probably someone will also offer some money to buy Socrates .


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Dino Platform on March 23, 2018, 11:11:24 AM
The idea underneath this ICO is of high value to the world


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on March 23, 2018, 01:18:25 PM
Suddenly so much movement in a single day.  ;D Funny.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Yoverdot on March 23, 2018, 02:19:08 PM
At the moment, this is very promising network, the prospect of the future so nice
I think socrates will also need a unique feature, and then probably someone will also offer some money to buy Socrates .
when the platform offering user can get income from their activity, it will be good.
so, if token will be used to pay user, it would be great unique feature.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: NeRoX82 on March 23, 2018, 03:06:28 PM
At the moment, this is very promising network, the prospect of the future so nice
I think socrates will also need a unique feature, and then probably someone will also offer some money to buy Socrates .
when the platform offering user can get income from their activity, it will be good.
so, if token will be used to pay user, it would be great unique feature.
I think the ICO will help get the platform some more exposure. Lets hope it keeps the snowball rolling!


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: mandarinka on March 23, 2018, 03:07:28 PM
At the moment, this is very promising network, the prospect of the future so nice
I think socrates will also need a unique feature, and then probably someone will also offer some money to buy Socrates .
when the platform offering user can get income from their activity, it will be good.
so, if token will be used to pay user, it would be great unique feature.
Yes, I cant see any reason why people would stick with using mainstream platforms like odem.io, as the general awareness of the public grows.
People have the sense of freedom rooted into them - once they see that they are not satisfied, there is no going back, they will start looking for better alternatives, and I’m sure they will find Socratescoin waiting for them!


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: OMLETovich on March 23, 2018, 03:08:12 PM
At the moment, this is very promising network, the prospect of the future so nice
I think socrates will also need a unique feature, and then probably someone will also offer some money to buy Socrates .
when the platform offering user can get income from their activity, it will be good.
so, if token will be used to pay user, it would be great unique feature.
Yes, I cant see any reason why people would stick with using mainstream platforms like odem.io, as the general awareness of the public grows.
People have the sense of freedom rooted into them - once they see that they are not satisfied, there is no going back, they will start looking for better alternatives, and I’m sure they will find Socratescoin waiting for them!

In my opinion they are starting to get obsolete and this is the right moment for competitor like socrates.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: GeNer@L on March 23, 2018, 03:09:18 PM
 i think it would be really bad if the tokens have a near nothing usage after the ico and start of the platform.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: bitoshka on March 23, 2018, 03:10:01 PM
i think it would be really bad if the tokens have a near nothing usage after the ico and start of the platform.
Naturally, tokens should give privileges to platform users.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Suarezzz on March 23, 2018, 03:11:01 PM
i think it would be really bad if the tokens have a near nothing usage after the ico and start of the platform.
Naturally, tokens should give privileges to platform users.

But they will be used. You will be able to pay on the platform, it’s the unite payment solution for Nauka univestity. There will be enough ways to use it, no worries about it.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: HuP9RX on March 23, 2018, 03:12:03 PM
i think it would be really bad if the tokens have a near nothing usage after the ico and start of the platform.
the tokens will be used, yes. i dont know for what but they will be used. =) Also it is your invest and you can have it in the wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Drugser on March 23, 2018, 03:12:49 PM
i think it would be really bad if the tokens have a near nothing usage after the ico and start of the platform.
the tokens will be used, yes. i dont know for what but they will be used. =) Also it is your invest and you can have it in the wallet.

It is interesting to hear the answer from the devs about coins.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Aberrant on March 23, 2018, 03:13:38 PM
i think it would be really bad if the tokens have a near nothing usage after the ico and start of the platform.
the tokens will be used, yes. i dont know for what but they will be used. =) Also it is your invest and you can have it in the wallet.

It is interesting to hear the answer from the devs about coins.
This will be very hard for socratescoin to compete if they want to be known globally by people, there are many big competitors.
But >$8 m raised is a good start, hopefully it will grow significantly.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: maAE$tRo$2000 on March 23, 2018, 03:14:49 PM
i think it would be really bad if the tokens have a near nothing usage after the ico and start of the platform.
the tokens will be used, yes. i dont know for what but they will be used. =) Also it is your invest and you can have it in the wallet.

It is interesting to hear the answer from the devs about coins.
This will be very hard for socratescoin to compete if they want to be known globally by people, there are many big competitors.
But >$8 m raised is a good start, hopefully it will grow significantly.

Blockchain technology is becoming more popular,
I think next year will be the year when most people in advanced cities adapt and will use the products of this technology.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: EnterTheLight on March 23, 2018, 03:15:55 PM
i think it would be really bad if the tokens have a near nothing usage after the ico and start of the platform.
the tokens will be used, yes. i dont know for what but they will be used. =) Also it is your invest and you can have it in the wallet.

It is interesting to hear the answer from the devs about coins.
This will be very hard for socratescoin to compete if they want to be known globally by people, there are many big competitors.
But >$8 m raised is a good start, hopefully it will grow significantly.

Blockchain technology is becoming more popular,
I think next year will be the year when most people in advanced cities adapt and will use the products of this technology.
I hope so, there are many developer who create products for global people including Socratescoin.
It will be good for them.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: CeNaToP on March 23, 2018, 03:16:36 PM
The coin represents a share of the project. It’s not a mandatory for socrates to has a use case for the coin. I think the value will come from the value and the utility of the platform.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on March 24, 2018, 01:35:14 AM
For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)  
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

If i forget anything feel free to complete.

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of nonsense spamposts.  


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: GeNer@L on March 24, 2018, 05:17:34 PM
Conventional education will soon go to the background, because the beginning of the era of blockchain.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: PISTON_1 on March 24, 2018, 05:18:29 PM
very interested project i joined this part of my bright future with socrates. this project will be on top project. everyone should join this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Suarezzz on March 24, 2018, 05:19:06 PM
 With this in mind, I'm hopefull it will make its userbase much bigger in the coming months.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: BoBeRcENkO on March 24, 2018, 05:20:44 PM
With this in mind, I'm hopefull it will make its userbase much bigger in the coming months.
With this in mind, I'm hopefull it will make its userbase much bigger in the coming months.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Titomonriki on March 24, 2018, 05:21:26 PM
hi team, wanted to clarify about blockhain utility in this project. You plan to use blockchain for every transaction in the network or just for payment transactions? On which blockchain it will work?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: OMLETovich on March 24, 2018, 05:22:24 PM
 how they will use tokens here? What liquidity of tokens?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: mandarinka on March 24, 2018, 05:23:01 PM
in my opinion the best solution is to combine the two aspects in a project the social part and the education part, the token I believe it has any active role in the project but must be purchased for the increasing value over time, and to support the team in the development of the idea.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Vurdalakus on March 24, 2018, 07:59:47 PM
how they will use tokens here? What liquidity of tokens?
Apparently their tokens will not have use directly connection to the network, although that would be genius, their valorization will be given independently to the activities if I am not mistaken. The concept of the project is good, and although there are others already active, they position socratescoin as the currency of the knowledge industry, so we wish them good luck in this ICO!


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Yoverdot on March 24, 2018, 08:00:37 PM
how they will use tokens here? What liquidity of tokens?
Apparently their tokens will not have use directly connection to the network, although that would be genius, their valorization will be given independently to the activities if I am not mistaken. The concept of the project is good, and although there are others already active, they position socratescoin as the currency of the knowledge industry, so we wish them good luck in this ICO!

What are the tokens actually being used for then?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: HuP9RX on March 24, 2018, 08:04:02 PM
how they will use tokens here? What liquidity of tokens?
Apparently their tokens will not have use directly connection to the network, although that would be genius, their valorization will be given independently to the activities if I am not mistaken. The concept of the project is good, and although there are others already active, they position socratescoin as the currency of the knowledge industry, so we wish them good luck in this ICO!

What are the tokens actually being used for then?
If this is true, then how will the tokens keep their value after ICO? There has got to be incentive to keep or buy the tokens?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: UnIvErS on March 24, 2018, 08:04:52 PM
how they will use tokens here? What liquidity of tokens?
Apparently their tokens will not have use directly connection to the network, although that would be genius, their valorization will be given independently to the activities if I am not mistaken. The concept of the project is good, and although there are others already active, they position socratescoin as the currency of the knowledge industry, so we wish them good luck in this ICO!

What are the tokens actually being used for then?
If this is true, then how will the tokens keep their value after ICO? There has got to be incentive to keep or buy the tokens?
I still wait for an official statement from developers on the thread, but that's just my impression, because I do not think anything documented that cites such a relationship with the tokens. Some projects only work with the dividend incentives and this would be good.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Logan22 on March 24, 2018, 08:05:46 PM
how they will use tokens here? What liquidity of tokens?
Apparently their tokens will not have use directly connection to the network, although that would be genius, their valorization will be given independently to the activities if I am not mistaken. The concept of the project is good, and although there are others already active, they position socratescoin as the currency of the knowledge industry, so we wish them good luck in this ICO!

What are the tokens actually being used for then?
If this is true, then how will the tokens keep their value after ICO? There has got to be incentive to keep or buy the tokens?
I still wait for an official statement from developers on the thread, but that's just my impression, because I do not think anything documented that cites such a relationship with the tokens. Some projects only work with the dividend incentives and this would be good.
I didnt know Socrates is working with dividends. That makes sense though and also giving a lot of value to their token.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Aberrant on March 24, 2018, 08:06:42 PM
how they will use tokens here? What liquidity of tokens?
Apparently their tokens will not have use directly connection to the network, although that would be genius, their valorization will be given independently to the activities if I am not mistaken. The concept of the project is good, and although there are others already active, they position socratescoin as the currency of the knowledge industry, so we wish them good luck in this ICO!

What are the tokens actually being used for then?
If this is true, then how will the tokens keep their value after ICO? There has got to be incentive to keep or buy the tokens?
I still wait for an official statement from developers on the thread, but that's just my impression, because I do not think anything documented that cites such a relationship with the tokens. Some projects only work with the dividend incentives and this would be good.
I didnt know Socrates is working with dividends. That makes sense though and also giving a lot of value to their token.
Friendz don't pay dividends afaik, at least I haven't read anything in their whitepaper about it.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: NeRoX82 on March 24, 2018, 08:07:51 PM
how they will use tokens here? What liquidity of tokens?
Apparently their tokens will not have use directly connection to the network, although that would be genius, their valorization will be given independently to the activities if I am not mistaken. The concept of the project is good, and although there are others already active, they position socratescoin as the currency of the knowledge industry, so we wish them good luck in this ICO!

What are the tokens actually being used for then?
If this is true, then how will the tokens keep their value after ICO? There has got to be incentive to keep or buy the tokens?
I still wait for an official statement from developers on the thread, but that's just my impression, because I do not think anything documented that cites such a relationship with the tokens. Some projects only work with the dividend incentives and this would be good.
I didnt know Socrates is working with dividends. That makes sense though and also giving a lot of value to their token.
Friendz don't pay dividends afaik, at least I haven't read anything in their whitepaper about it.
I think the best will be incentivizing the user activity and participation. Maybe token will also be used for paid services; or maybe to avoid extra ads.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: kamarchek on March 24, 2018, 08:08:55 PM
how they will use tokens here? What liquidity of tokens?
Apparently their tokens will not have use directly connection to the network, although that would be genius, their valorization will be given independently to the activities if I am not mistaken. The concept of the project is good, and although there are others already active, they position socratescoin as the currency of the knowledge industry, so we wish them good luck in this ICO!

What are the tokens actually being used for then?
If this is true, then how will the tokens keep their value after ICO? There has got to be incentive to keep or buy the tokens?
I still wait for an official statement from developers on the thread, but that's just my impression, because I do not think anything documented that cites such a relationship with the tokens. Some projects only work with the dividend incentives and this would be good.
I didnt know Socrates is working with dividends. That makes sense though and also giving a lot of value to their token.
Friendz don't pay dividends afaik, at least I haven't read anything in their whitepaper about it.
I think the best will be incentivizing the user activity and participation. Maybe token will also be used for paid services; or maybe to avoid extra ads.
a use has to be found for the tokens, otherwise they're worthless. having to use them on the platform is better than dividends IMO, due to increased regulation.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on March 25, 2018, 09:46:39 AM
For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this) 
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

If i forget anything feel free to complete.

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of nonsense spamposts. Obviously they try to drown the negative facts. Like already mentioned instead of answear or fighting arguments.   


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Ceburekus on March 25, 2018, 02:01:13 PM
 It is true that since we have social networks in our lives, we spend less time on education, here socrates is planning to let ourselves be entertained with the social network and to educate with our friends and we always have the control of our time so this project actively participates to give us the opportunity to learn something useful and give us back the power and freedom on the internet.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Fanat74 on March 25, 2018, 02:03:01 PM
It is true that since we have social networks in our lives, we spend less time on education, here socrates is planning to let ourselves be entertained with the social network and to educate with our friends and we always have the control of our time so this project actively participates to give us the opportunity to learn something useful and give us back the power and freedom on the internet.
indeed! It's like science lab having its own currency.
Having that opportunity is a great incentive to sign up!


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: AGRE$$IV on March 25, 2018, 02:03:43 PM
It is true that since we have social networks in our lives, we spend less time on education, here socrates is planning to let ourselves be entertained with the social network and to educate with our friends and we always have the control of our time so this project actively participates to give us the opportunity to learn something useful and give us back the power and freedom on the internet.
indeed! It's like science lab having its own currency.
Having that opportunity is a great incentive to sign up!

If I’m not mistaken they have also a referral program, where you can get more SAPIS for each person you refer, that is quite a good idea to spread the word around.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: CeNaToP on March 25, 2018, 02:04:24 PM
One of rare good looking project! I hope it will enter major exchanges as Bittrex, Binance, Poloniex.... I will follow it certainly.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Bulllbas on March 25, 2018, 02:05:39 PM
One of rare good looking project! I hope it will enter major exchanges as Bittrex, Binance, Poloniex.... I will follow it certainly.
Good choice! Same for me as I tend to prefer projects that could disrupt current trends in our digital world and Socrates is one of them.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: VenomAnSeR on March 25, 2018, 02:06:16 PM
The platform is working well but I also think that there's still work to do.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: BoBeRcENkO on March 25, 2018, 02:07:02 PM
This project sounds very interesting and maybe i should read the whitepaper first.
I`m very new to bct and ico investing, but what i read is, that i have to do my own researches and find my way to invest. I hope that, this is a good project.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Makelleli on March 25, 2018, 02:07:50 PM
This project sounds very interesting and maybe i should read the whitepaper first.
I`m very new to bct and ico investing, but what i read is, that i have to do my own researches and find my way to invest. I hope that, this is a good project.
welcome and that’s the right spirit! read the whitepaper and google a lot, find your information for yourself and do a good research on this project and decide later to invest or not!


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Yoverdot on March 25, 2018, 02:08:41 PM
This project sounds very interesting and maybe i should read the whitepaper first.
I`m very new to bct and ico investing, but what i read is, that i have to do my own researches and find my way to invest. I hope that, this is a good project.
welcome and that’s the right spirit! read the whitepaper and google a lot, find your information for yourself and do a good research on this project and decide later to invest or not!

You must learn to evaluate ICO, team, idea, capitalization ...


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Tiamel on March 25, 2018, 02:09:36 PM
That will give thrust to the users, that information will be encrypted and stored on the blockchain which provides secured structured data.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: PISTON_1 on March 25, 2018, 02:10:26 PM
That will give thrust to the users, that information will be encrypted and stored on the blockchain which provides secured structured data.
This is very good feature of this platform and I hope that it will be well implemented.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: GeRa_182 on March 25, 2018, 02:11:32 PM
That will give thrust to the users, that information will be encrypted and stored on the blockchain which provides secured structured data.
This is very good feature of this platform and I hope that it will be well implemented.

yes i am sure they will and they can hire a lot of development after an ico succeed.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: HuP9RX on March 25, 2018, 02:12:28 PM
That will give thrust to the users, that information will be encrypted and stored on the blockchain which provides secured structured data.
This is very good feature of this platform and I hope that it will be well implemented.

yes i am sure they will and they can hire a lot of development after an ico succeed.

Hopefully they raise enough money to increase the team and develop everything as planned.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: anchousser on March 25, 2018, 02:13:18 PM
I think this education network would be a suitable alternative to the current networks. Mankind is gradually getting used to decentralization, hence this is another step in progress.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: bitoshka on March 25, 2018, 02:14:12 PM
Question. You are going to create a decentralized network. You get information about users during their registration. Where the information is stored??? And how will it be protected?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: maAE$tRo$2000 on March 25, 2018, 02:14:58 PM
I think investors will come, there is a lot of people interested in the socrates platform and a lot of people enjoy the project. I think there is a big place in crypto world for a decentralized network like socrates.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Jokerrr on March 25, 2018, 02:15:40 PM
I think investors will come, there is a lot of people interested in the socrates platform and a lot of people enjoy the project. I think there is a big place in crypto world for a decentralized network like socrates.

there are others as well, but that's a good thing. competition validates an idea.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: kamarchek on March 25, 2018, 02:16:23 PM
I think investors will come, there is a lot of people interested in the socrates platform and a lot of people enjoy the project. I think there is a big place in crypto world for a decentralized network like socrates.

there are others as well, but that's a good thing. competition validates an idea.
Socrates will certainly have its place next to the giants, although there are some attempts to decentralize a network, this project presents the previously presented concepts, and brings a better in everything that was flawed, there is still much to be done in this field, but surely this will be one of the pioneers in this improvement.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: EnterTheLight on March 25, 2018, 02:17:27 PM
I think investors will come, there is a lot of people interested in the socrates platform and a lot of people enjoy the project. I think there is a big place in crypto world for a decentralized network like socrates.

there are others as well, but that's a good thing. competition validates an idea.
Socrates will certainly have its place next to the giants, although there are some attempts to decentralize a network, this project presents the previously presented concepts, and brings a better in everything that was flawed, there is still much to be done in this field, but surely this will be one of the pioneers in this improvement.
We can’t ignore that there is a lot of competition out there on this field, but I can see some features with good potential in Socrates. If the team will stick to their road map, who knows what the future might bring, but I for one believe in this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: rendravolt on March 25, 2018, 02:17:45 PM
Socrates? surely this is the philosopher of the altcoin in the future, a little shake my stomach, but what can make this just an appreciation for the famous philosopher.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on March 25, 2018, 02:42:22 PM
For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

If i forget anything feel free to complete.

 ;D ;D ;D Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim  

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: starblocks on March 26, 2018, 07:22:02 AM
This has already raised over $8 million for a project that doesn't have much activity on social networks which is surprising

What sort of revenues do you project for the first year once the platform goes live?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: LazyBitInvestor on March 26, 2018, 07:25:02 AM
I have nothing against project, but why such strange name of project? NAUKA is a Russian word that means "Science" in English but there are not any Russian person in team... This is Strange


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Makelleli on March 26, 2018, 11:11:23 AM
I think investors will come, there is a lot of people interested in the socrates platform and a lot of people enjoy the project. I think there is a big place in crypto world for a decentralized network like socrates.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: NeRoX82 on March 26, 2018, 11:13:09 AM
Currently the biggest competitor in the field is BitDegree platform and it will be very hard to compete them. Is your long-term plan to take them down or to be No.2 Network?? Second option is more realistic.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Vurdalakus on March 26, 2018, 11:14:41 AM
Currently the biggest competitor in the field is BitDegree platform and it will be very hard to compete them. Is your long-term plan to take them down or to be No.2 Network?? Second option is more realistic.
I am also seen BitDegree and as long as people are happy with it, it would be hard for Socrates to compete. The thing with BitDegree is, it takes a time to get approved.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: CrYpTEr$$ on March 26, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
Currently the biggest competitor in the field is BitDegree platform and it will be very hard to compete them. Is your long-term plan to take them down or to be No.2 Network?? Second option is more realistic.
I am also seen BitDegree and as long as people are happy with it, it would be hard for Socrates to compete. The thing with BitDegree is, it takes a time to get approved.
I'm not sure that BitDegree will be a sort of competitor. They have slightly different idea, so they can co-exist with each other.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Tiamel on March 26, 2018, 11:19:49 AM
Currently the biggest competitor in the field is BitDegree platform and it will be very hard to compete them. Is your long-term plan to take them down or to be No.2 Network?? Second option is more realistic.
I am also seen BitDegree and as long as people are happy with it, it would be hard for Socrates to compete. The thing with BitDegree is, it takes a time to get approved.
I'm not sure that BitDegree will be a sort of competitor. They have slightly different idea, so they can co-exist with each other.
Many social platform can be co-existing anyway. Socrates is nice platform and dev team is looking for improving constantly. We are going to see more and more adoption.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Chu@N on March 26, 2018, 02:21:54 PM
Currently the biggest competitor in the field is BitDegree platform and it will be very hard to compete them. Is your long-term plan to take them down or to be No.2 Network?? Second option is more realistic.
I am also seen BitDegree and as long as people are happy with it, it would be hard for Socrates to compete. The thing with BitDegree is, it takes a time to get approved.
I'm not sure that BitDegree will be a sort of competitor. They have slightly different idea, so they can co-exist with each other.
Many social platform can be co-existing anyway. Socrates is nice platform and dev team is looking for improving constantly. We are going to see more and more adoption.
They are also very active on this thread which is very good because it shows that they are serious about this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: bitoshka on March 26, 2018, 02:27:11 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Fanat74 on March 26, 2018, 02:31:13 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: anchousser on March 26, 2018, 02:35:31 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Drugser on March 26, 2018, 02:41:10 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Ceburekus on March 26, 2018, 05:10:19 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
That's true, but when do you think marketing is most effective? During ICO, Post ICO, after the platform/product is ready?
Or is a mix of each important?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Titomonriki on March 26, 2018, 05:50:49 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: EfIRchEk on March 26, 2018, 05:53:09 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.
Well of course, that's not just with ICOs the case, but with everything you try to sell. If you don't make good advertisement, you can have the best product, as long as no one knows about it and it won’t be sold.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: MrsPiggy on March 26, 2018, 05:59:56 PM
;D ;D ;D Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim  

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.
Thank you for keeping an eye on this. I was just on an extended weekend trip and missed all the fun here. But I am sure that more will come as soon as I start posting again.

Just to give a short update on the "partner institutions"

Dubna University - Never heared of Socratescoin or the Nauka University
Lomonosov Moscow State University - Socra who and Nauka what?
University of Brasilia (you should have at least written the name right but we already know that you´re to lazy/incompetent to do so) - From what my friend told me they don´t know anything about this and he wasn´t the first who asked...
World University Consortium - No answer yet
ISMEC - International Sport Medicine Center - It is not a medicine center it is a clinic that in Sevilla that probably Alfred once went to after he rolled his ankle while playing tennis. I didn´t even contact them.
World Organisation of Systems and Cybernetics (WOSC) - They don´t even have a contact address but they are not a reputable ressource anyways so I didn´t try to reach out to them.
International Association of Dual Remote Education project (MADDO) - The logo indicates (мaддo) that they are base in Russia but there is nothing to be found about them.

It turns out that hight members of the Socratescoin team are involved in various other scams or similar. I got a reoutable intel from people more close to them than they would have ever thought. I will reveal more about that at a later point in time because there is still so much to look into.

@John: Can you dm me please?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Logan22 on March 26, 2018, 06:08:05 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.
Well of course, that's not just with ICOs the case, but with everything you try to sell. If you don't make good advertisement, you can have the best product, as long as no one knows about it and it won’t be sold.
Certainly something that should be an attack on any ICO, support BTC for its large volume of project supporters, and good marketing, Team videos demonstrating their mastery of the concept also tend to bring in more fans.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: UnIvErS on March 26, 2018, 06:18:16 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.
Well of course, that's not just with ICOs the case, but with everything you try to sell. If you don't make good advertisement, you can have the best product, as long as no one knows about it and it won’t be sold.
Yes, so much new ICOs recently, if a project's team won’t advertise their project properly, then it will be buried under another ICO’s.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Tiamel on March 26, 2018, 07:10:44 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
I agree, but Socrates is already doing so much in marketing. What else they can do? I’ve seen Socrates everywhere.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Jokerrr on March 26, 2018, 07:15:37 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
I agree, but Socrates is already doing so much in marketing. What else they can do? I’ve seen Socrates everywhere.
That's right, they are already doing a lot and have been quite successful with more than $8m collected but they also need investors.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: OMLETovich on March 26, 2018, 07:21:46 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.
I agree that this is important component of any project, even the most successful one. More people will learn about the project with the help of marketing and as result there will be more investments.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: maAE$tRo$2000 on March 26, 2018, 07:25:17 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.
I agree that this is important component of any project, even the most successful one. More people will learn about the project with the help of marketing and as result there will be more investments.
Yes, marketing and timing are the keys to success.
If you see what happened with the ICO's last year, they didn't raise that much because there wasn't so much traction in the market.
Some ICO's now have raised enormous amounts of money thanks to timing and marketing


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Deform on March 26, 2018, 07:28:38 PM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
I agree, but Socrates is already doing so much in marketing. What else they can do? I’ve seen Socrates everywhere.
Where you saw Friendz? You mean promotion? How about conferences?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on March 27, 2018, 01:26:19 AM
I have nothing against project, but why such strange name of project? NAUKA is a Russian word that means "Science" in English but there are not any Russian person in team... This is Strange

Its a bad made scam. You are right there is just one  word which would have been dumber to choose, university. University university. In facebook and other social media they spread wisdom. "Believe in yourself", "keep working hard", "never give up"...and many other pseudospiritual statments, which are not even wrong. But to hear it from people which dont even trust itself to be able to master life in a honest way, people which has to trick and harm others for their own success, people which is not even able to build a serious scam, which try to manipulate instead of fighting and defending, how ridiculous and ironic is that? This people try to cheat and betray.  In the nature you call this kind of species parasits.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

If i forget anything feel free to complete.

 Grin Grin Grin Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim  

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm
4. spamwave: 26.03  11:11-    7:28pm

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Yoverdot on March 27, 2018, 10:01:03 AM
Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
I agree, but Socrates is already doing so much in marketing. What else they can do? I’ve seen Socrates everywhere.
Where you saw Friendz? You mean promotion? How about conferences?
I saw a lot of ads on social media and a lot of people tweeting about it (that must be bounty). I dont know about conferences why do you ask?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Jokerrr on March 27, 2018, 10:02:34 AM
Many similar projects can be co-existing anyway. Socrates is nice platform and dev team is looking for improving constantly. We are going to see more and more adoption.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Fanat74 on March 27, 2018, 10:11:20 AM
Many similar projects can be co-existing anyway. Socrates is nice platform and dev team is looking for improving constantly. We are going to see more and more adoption.
They are also very active which is very good because it shows that they are serious about this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: maAE$tRo$2000 on March 27, 2018, 10:18:43 AM
This time educational networks are very promising, the prospects of the future are hopeful.
If I would see that Socrates project is good enough, I would invest some money into it. I believe in success of the project and its targets will be achieved.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: EfIRchEk on March 27, 2018, 10:29:09 AM
In my vantage point this platform are indeed very promising… This time, there is a lot of projects compete in this sphere, with the idea of the new sense. With the team that has proved themselves as professional and clear, I hope this project would be very good, I’m sure this project will intrigue investor.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Tiamel on March 27, 2018, 10:35:25 AM
A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Casperok on March 27, 2018, 10:40:58 AM
A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
You mean all the kitties?
One this I don't actually understand is, do all the projects with erc20 tokens use etherium network for confirming transactions? If so, the more companies the more transactions altogether, the worse congestion will become… No?
Ethereum network can only process 25tx/s, what if all the erc20 tokens start requiring more than that?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: InVE$$$tOR on March 27, 2018, 10:48:26 AM
A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
You mean all the kitties?
One this I don't actually understand is, do all the projects with erc20 tokens use etherium network for confirming transactions? If so, the more companies the more transactions altogether, the worse congestion will become… No?
Ethereum network can only process 25tx/s, what if all the erc20 tokens start requiring more than that?
Actually, ethereum network is improving constantly. On the other hand, lots of new things using the network more than before.
It is a race which I’m hoping ethereum network will win.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: CeNaToP on March 27, 2018, 10:59:18 AM
A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
That is true but they are also working to scale the network and improve it. So I wouldn’t worry about it.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Logan22 on March 27, 2018, 11:43:24 AM
A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
That is true but they are also working to scale the network and improve it. So I wouldn’t worry about it.
Problem is how fast are they gonna roll out the fork to improve the network? people might jump to a different blockchain if something is not done.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Vurdalakus on March 27, 2018, 01:27:29 PM
A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
That is true but they are also working to scale the network and improve it. So I wouldn’t worry about it.
Problem is how fast are they gonna roll out the fork to improve the network? people might jump to a different blockchain if something is not done.
Actually, if ethereum network can't cover the activity on it, tokens easily switch to another chain.
Just a token swap with new chain and it is ready to go. So the problem only ethereum's own.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Suarezzz on March 27, 2018, 01:40:23 PM
In my vantage point this platform are indeed very promising… This time, there is a lot of projects compete in this sphere, with the idea of the new sense. With the team that has proved themselves as professional and clear, I hope this project would be very good, I’m sure this project will intrigue investor.

There are indeed many other promising projects coming with similar feature, providing supports for tokens, indeed.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Ceburekus on March 27, 2018, 01:53:08 PM
A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
That is true but they are also working to scale the network and improve it. So I wouldn’t worry about it.
Problem is how fast are they gonna roll out the fork to improve the network? people might jump to a different blockchain if something is not done.
Actually, if ethereum network can't cover the activity on it, tokens easily switch to another chain.
Just a token swap with new chain and it is ready to go. So the problem only ethereum's own.
Is it that easy to switch from one chain to another? Because you have to consider the already done programming, language, etc, or am I wrong?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: PISTON_1 on March 27, 2018, 02:01:32 PM
A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
You mean all the kitties?
One this I don't actually understand is, do all the projects with erc20 tokens use etherium network for confirming transactions? If so, the more companies the more transactions altogether, the worse congestion will become… No?
Ethereum network can only process 25tx/s, what if all the erc20 tokens start requiring more than that?
Actually, ethereum network is improving constantly. On the other hand, lots of new things using the network more than before.
It is a race which I’m hoping ethereum network will win.
Well, Vitalik got a big problem.
But this isn’t easy, I heard that this won’t be solved very fast, maybe not as fast as we expected.
I miss the 1 gwei transaction.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Aberrant on March 27, 2018, 02:06:53 PM
A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
You mean all the kitties?
One this I don't actually understand is, do all the projects with erc20 tokens use etherium network for confirming transactions? If so, the more companies the more transactions altogether, the worse congestion will become… No?
Ethereum network can only process 25tx/s, what if all the erc20 tokens start requiring more than that?
Actually, ethereum network is improving constantly. On the other hand, lots of new things using the network more than before.
It is a race which I’m hoping ethereum network will win.
Well, Vitalik got a big problem.
But this isn’t easy, I heard that this won’t be solved very fast, maybe not as fast as we expected.
I miss the 1 gwei transaction.
Let's hope they can solve this soon the transaction fee had increased last month due to the problem in their network.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on March 27, 2018, 02:11:27 PM
Guys please quit your activitys you expose yourself more and more. Everybody who read this tread sees whats going on. Your stupidness is not even rediculous anymore, no it hurts and i feel sorry. I have just to copy paste and you must coordinating to make your job. At the end everybody with more than 2 cells in his brain sees your similar comments and intentions. Its just i dont know. But of course, people which is not ashamed to trick, lie and betray is not ashamed even when everybody is laughing about them.  ;D Im just interested in how so many criminal fools find each other. Everyone involved in this project has to be criminal. The programer of the website which updates the faked raised amounts, Mario Pretone, even him has to be criminal minded. I think all of them, Manuel Batista, Pirmin Troger, Alfred Hasselbacher, Mark Jeffery, Thomas Rivette, Luis Gerardo Saldaña Ledesma, Julia Kirchler, Mario Pretone, Virginia Salas Kastilio,  Oscar Perriman, Lettice Cook, Jacobo Genuardi and Adriano Spadaro, all these guys connected to each other hoping to rip off as much gullibly people as possible.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

UPDATE TO POINT 9:
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY MOSCOW STATE UNIVERSITY
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY UNIVERSITY OF BRASILIA
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY DUBNA UNIVERSITY
 



If i forget anything feel free to complete.

 Grin Grin Grin Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim  

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm
4. spamwave: 26.03  11:11-    7:28pm
5. spamwave: 27.03 10:01am- 2:06pm (probably not over yet)

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts and comments. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: lilaj4de on March 27, 2018, 02:30:37 PM
Will Nauka World plus a currency also be a database for knowledge sharing? Is this knowledge free for all?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: KaDeGrOB(1) on March 27, 2018, 07:23:41 PM
Do you have own blockchain and own wallet? Or this is ERC20 tokens?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: HuP9RX on March 27, 2018, 07:26:03 PM
Do you have own blockchain and own wallet? Or this is ERC20 tokens?
Isn’t it on their whitepaper??


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: OMLETovich on March 27, 2018, 07:28:12 PM
Do you have own blockchain and own wallet? Or this is ERC20 tokens?
Isn’t it on their whitepaper??

erc20 token, it’s on the first page and their site.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Bulllbas on March 27, 2018, 07:30:06 PM
 I like the project it seems pretty awesome and very idealistic campaign, I can't wait to join this kind of project it has a potential be on top of the list of all the successor, I believe this project will more be recognized and tradable in the global market.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: CrYpTEr$$ on March 27, 2018, 07:32:25 PM
I like the project it seems pretty awesome and very idealistic campaign, I can't wait to join this kind of project it has a potential be on top of the list of all the successor, I believe this project will more be recognized and tradable in the global market.

Definitely looks like a good idea, the only question is how they will develop this platform and how many users they will attract.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: EfIRchEk on March 28, 2018, 11:26:33 AM
When will the platform be launched? What is the maximum cap on ICO?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Titomonriki on March 28, 2018, 11:27:52 AM
Do you accept Bitcoin, Litecoin or Dogecoin in your ICO as cryptocurrencies?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: maAE$tRo$2000 on March 28, 2018, 11:30:27 AM
Hello there,
Would you be able to clarify what is the requirement for this coin?
I don't see its purpose. For what reason should I contribute.
Much appreciated.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Jokerrr on March 28, 2018, 11:32:49 AM
Hello there,
Would you be able to clarify what is the requirement for this coin?
I don't see its purpose. For what reason should I contribute.
Much appreciated.
More and more people learn about crypto, I think the network on this platform is logical extension of the crypto evolution.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: PISTON_1 on March 28, 2018, 11:34:13 AM
Hello there,
Would you be able to clarify what is the requirement for this coin?
I don't see its purpose. For what reason should I contribute.
Much appreciated.
More and more people learn about crypto, I think the network on this platform is logical extension of the crypto evolution.
SAPIS are going to be used throughout the system to facilitate transactions within the decentralized network. More things will be integrated soon.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: CeNaToP on March 28, 2018, 11:35:26 AM
Hello there,
Would you be able to clarify what is the requirement for this coin?
I don't see its purpose. For what reason should I contribute.
Much appreciated.
More and more people learn about crypto, I think the network on this platform is logical extension of the crypto evolution.
SAPIS are going to be used throughout the system to facilitate transactions within the decentralized network. More things will be integrated soon.
I really like the idea of a decentralized network with the purpose of education, is to join the useful to the pleasant and leave behind the era of conventional platforms, the concept is fantastic and will have great adhesion, a good marketing will be fundamental.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Miraculously on March 28, 2018, 11:36:34 AM
Hello there,
Would you be able to clarify what is the requirement for this coin?
I don't see its purpose. For what reason should I contribute.
Much appreciated.
More and more people learn about crypto, I think the network on this platform is logical extension of the crypto evolution.
SAPIS are going to be used throughout the system to facilitate transactions within the decentralized network. More things will be integrated soon.
I really like the idea of a decentralized network with the purpose of education, is to join the useful to the pleasant and leave behind the era of conventional platforms, the concept is fantastic and will have great adhesion, a good marketing will be fundamental.
Everything needs a good marketing fundamental for it to work. Even ethereum was pretty much using their resources for marketing back in the day, As long as there is a major marketing for the coin then it will work out and people will notice the ICO if there is no then there is no reason for the coin to even survive in the crypto market.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: InVE$$$tOR on March 28, 2018, 01:26:22 PM
 After reading the whitepaper, I think this project can be a good alternative to current multi billionaire companies: good luck with this venture!


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: NeRoX82 on March 28, 2018, 01:30:00 PM
What I dont understand is, what is the point of decentralizing this? I get that you will be in control of your own data, but why create a social platform?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: OMLETovich on March 28, 2018, 01:31:37 PM
What I dont understand is, what is the point of decentralizing this? I get that you will be in control of your own data, but why create a social platform?
Competition is always good, man. Plus, where else would you find a decentralized educational network?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Aberrant on March 28, 2018, 01:39:07 PM
What is token going to be used for? What is soft cap required for this ICO?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Fanat74 on March 28, 2018, 01:51:05 PM
Currently working platform is always nice. Community is already there which is important for social apps. How this token going to add to current platform? Is there reward for participation in social media?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: AGRE$$IV on March 28, 2018, 05:42:04 PM
After reading the whitepaper, I can say that this project will be a major disruption to current social media practices and this will greatly benefit end users as compared to today's contemporary services. Good luck!


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Suarezzz on March 28, 2018, 05:43:15 PM
A couple of questions about your tokens:
33% will be reserved for the liquidity fund.
13% will be reserved for the team.
These tokens will be at the disposal of the same persons?
If not all tokens are sold, what will you do with unsold tokens? Will these tokens be burned, or will you distribute them between the holders of the tokens? Or will you collect the tokens for yourself?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Ceburekus on March 28, 2018, 05:45:01 PM
A couple of questions about your tokens:
33% will be reserved for the liquidity fund.
13% will be reserved for the team.
These tokens will be at the disposal of the same persons?
If not all tokens are sold, what will you do with unsold tokens? Will these tokens be burned, or will you distribute them between the holders of the tokens? Or will you collect the tokens for yourself?
I can’t answer the second part of the question, because have found nothing about it.
As for the first part, I don't really know, but I don't think they will belong to the same people.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Yoverdot on March 28, 2018, 07:18:52 PM
I ask a stupid question, but still. How will you collect profit? After all, the social network is free, and to connect to it you do not need to buy tokens. Where can the dividends for the holders of tokens take?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: KaDeGrOB(1) on March 28, 2018, 07:20:18 PM
I ask a stupid question, but still. How will you collect profit? After all, the social network is free, and to connect to it you do not need to buy tokens. Where can the dividends for the holders of tokens take?
This is a good question! Granted getting users is the hardest part and once you have users you can come up with something. Either way, would be interested to hear what the devs say about it.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Makelleli on March 28, 2018, 07:21:29 PM
I ask a stupid question, but still. How will you collect profit? After all, the social network is free, and to connect to it you do not need to buy tokens. Where can the dividends for the holders of tokens take?
This is a good question! Granted getting users is the hardest part and once you have users you can come up with something. Either way, would be interested to hear what the devs say about it.
Maybe will be unobtrusive advertising in web site, also there are many partners who want to promote their products for modest reward. In fact, there is a lot of monetization methods when there is large social network.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Vurdalakus on March 28, 2018, 07:22:47 PM
An ICO that already has a platform and app that is live?!? Yes please!
I was checking out the app for a little bit and I'm liking it already.
What is the ICO needed for? Marketing?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: CrYpTEr$$ on March 28, 2018, 07:23:45 PM
Interesting project. And already has interested people and running platform. This is a positive moment.
Unfortunately, from a whitepaper, I still do not understand your concept of making a profit, and also did not understand what benefit I will get when buying your tokens?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Makelleli on March 29, 2018, 09:12:05 AM
Hey, interesting project! Is there any video, demo or something similar where we could see the current network?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: CeNaToP on March 29, 2018, 09:18:52 AM
Looks like the thread of project is still very quiet. If I look at the thread bounty is not much different, I think you should do something to make the project bustling and look more alive. I think this is indispensable for the future of this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: maAE$tRo$2000 on March 29, 2018, 09:29:49 AM
Could you please provide more detail about the project...starting with the team of this project? And how much of the platform has already been developed? How much has still to be developed?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: bitoshka on March 29, 2018, 09:35:12 AM
 Also, genuinely asking this:
What makes this any different than BitDegree?
Any smart investor will ask that. BitDegree seems rather successful and given what your whitepaper says, it appears that this is very similar to BitDegree but only differing in about 2-3 areas.
BitDegree is already rolling so what's gonna make other people use this instead of BitDegree (at least from what you can control) when trying to break away from Facebook or the likes?
Assuming you aren't a scam dev team, I know you don't want to be regarded as a clone, yet that will happen once someone familiar with crypto reads the whitepaper.
I ask as someone who's invested in the project already because that answer will determine if I hold long term or plan an exit within the next 12 months.
Thanks for the time reading this!


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Ceburekus on March 29, 2018, 09:38:37 AM
Project looks promising - but what can you offer that other project can’t?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: wabashky on March 29, 2018, 09:59:22 AM
Yeah, this project sounds very interesting and maybe i should read the WP first. Im very new to BTC and ICO investing, but what i read is, that i have to do my own researches and find my way to invest. I hope that, this is a good project. So, good luck


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Drugser on March 29, 2018, 01:59:00 PM
Question: How did you determine those rates on the token price for the pre-sale?
I'm looking to buy some tokens but want to know how the rates were worked out.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Suarezzz on March 29, 2018, 02:04:03 PM
This is a very promising project. The idea of a decentralized social educational network is appealing and easy to sell to the users of different traditional educational sites. I am ready to try the platform.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Deform on March 29, 2018, 02:21:44 PM
How long will the referral program be active for? Also, what are the benefits of holding SAPIS tokens? These questions are the only one that obsessing me now.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: NeRoX82 on March 29, 2018, 02:35:51 PM
Really like the idea of a decentralized education network. I want to try it today
So far, the platform looks lightweight and fast. Good look dev team.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Miraculously on March 29, 2018, 02:52:51 PM
Sounds very interesting, you already have $8m raised up? When will you start promotion company?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: EfIRchEk on March 29, 2018, 04:28:23 PM
What will happen to the unsold tokens? Will they be burned or you guys have some other plans?


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: UnIvErS on March 29, 2018, 04:30:49 PM
I think it is something innovative and therefore can make a dent in the market as education platforms there are many but not like this


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: OMLETovich on March 29, 2018, 04:37:30 PM
I think it is something innovative and therefore can make a dent in the market as education platforms there are many but not like this
It surely will as this kind of project has never been done before, we definitely dont know what impact it will bring to everyone.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: anchousser on March 29, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
I think it is something innovative and therefore can make a dent in the market as education platforms there are many but not like this
It surely will as this kind of project has never been done before, we definitely dont know what impact it will bring to everyone.
It will be cool to see if people understand the value of this concept. For now this project seems promising.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Casperok on March 29, 2018, 04:46:16 PM
I think education networks need a decentralized competitor, actual big sites is centralized and I think with the explosion of crypto currencies, decentralized services will become more popular. SocratesCoin can become a major actor of that change.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: ratdumpid on March 29, 2018, 06:01:36 PM
New Commenters here please go back and check the first 2 pages of this post.  They have been asked many questions, and never replied. There is a lot of this suspect about this ICO. 

For one they have posted 3 different whitepapers during the ICO and will the 8.7 mill has been the same since launch.  NO UPDATE IN OVER 1.5 MONTHS!!!!

Just check out the Telegram chat.  It is a mess!!! https://t.me/socratessociety


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Vurdalakus on March 29, 2018, 08:25:38 PM
I think education networks need a decentralized competitor, actual big sites is centralized and I think with the explosion of crypto currencies, decentralized services will become more popular. SocratesCoin can become a major actor of that change.
I agree, but SocratesCoin needs a huge marketing campaign to become leader in this field while there are a lot of similar projects that can take a big part of users to them.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Bulllbas on March 29, 2018, 08:30:03 PM
I think education networks need a decentralized competitor, actual big sites is centralized and I think with the explosion of crypto currencies, decentralized services will become more popular. SocratesCoin can become a major actor of that change.
I agree, but SocratesCoin needs a huge marketing campaign to become leader in this field while there are a lot of similar projects that can take a big part of users to them.
Yes, a good marketing for a project is a big key to success. And SocratesCoin will become succeed soon.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Deform on March 29, 2018, 08:46:42 PM
I think education networks need a decentralized competitor, actual big sites is centralized and I think with the explosion of crypto currencies, decentralized services will become more popular. SocratesCoin can become a major actor of that change.
I agree, but SocratesCoin needs a huge marketing campaign to become leader in this field while there are a lot of similar projects that can take a big part of users to them.
Yes, a good marketing for a project is a big key to success. And SocratesCoin will become succeed soon.
Unfortunately most products hardly have any budget for marketing.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Miraculously on March 29, 2018, 08:51:23 PM
This project is really nice and productive one, I like the entire project, very enthusiast and informative community, there is an ability to develop much more into society to become one of the successor currency in the crypto market.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: Vurdalakus on March 29, 2018, 08:55:36 PM
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO and SocratesCoin is already doing so much in marketing. =)


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on April 02, 2018, 10:21:12 AM
Guys please quit your activitys you expose yourself more and more. Everybody who read this tread sees whats going on. Your stupidness is not even rediculous anymore, no it hurts and i feel sorry. I have just to copy paste and you must coordinating to make your job. At the end everybody with more than 2 cells in his brain sees your similar comments and intentions. Its just i dont know. But of course, people which is not ashamed to trick, lie and betray is not ashamed even when everybody is laughing about them.  Grin Im just interested in how so many criminal fools find each other. Everyone involved in this project has to be criminal. The programer of the website which updates the faked raised amounts, Mario Pretone, even him has to be criminal minded. I think all of them, Manuel Batista, Pirmin Troger, Alfred Hasselbacher, Mark Jeffery, Thomas Rivette, Luis Gerardo Saldaña Ledesma, Julia Kirchler, Mario Pretone, Virginia Salas Kastilio,  Oscar Perriman, Lettice Cook, Jacobo Genuardi and Adriano Spadaro, all these guys connected to each other hoping to rip off as much gullibly people as possible.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

UPDATE TO POINT 9:
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY MOSCOW STATE UNIVERSITY
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY UNIVERSITY OF BRASILIA
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY DUBNA UNIVERSITY
 



If i forget anything feel free to complete.

 Grin Grin Grin Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim 

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm
4. spamwave: 26.03  11:11-    7:28pm
5. spamwave: 27.03 10:01am- 2:06pm (probably not over yet)
6. spamwave: 27.03 7:23pm-  31.03 8:55am

To proof that im right i omited reposting intentionally. And look, spampost were less and stoped 31.03. Now it will start again ;)

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts and comments. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: agpercise on April 03, 2018, 09:55:01 PM

I'm concerned in this ICO, and after reading the information on the first page.The total maximum stock is also very reasonable if all tokens are sold.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: la.sala on April 04, 2018, 12:58:34 AM
hopefully this coin give us more money.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: MrsPiggy on April 10, 2018, 10:07:19 PM
The ICO is about to end in around 12 hours and we are more than ever convinced that this is a scam.

Did they ever respond to any accusations? No!

Did they ever deliver anything other they promised, like the interviews with the founders? No!

But do they have a track of doing shady businesses? Yes!

You can find my full update on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/dx5g5h8/).

If you have invested in this and would like to help us to get a better understanding of where the money is going, feel free to message me.


Title: Re: [ANN][SAPIS] SOCRATESCOIN - THE COIN OF KNOWLEDGE & THE PAYMENT METHOD OF NAUKA
Post by: JohnGN on April 11, 2018, 10:06:55 AM
For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                       5
12.) ICO not stopped yet, still going on for one month.                                                                                                 4

                                                                                                          
UPDATE TO POINT 9:
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY MOSCOW STATE UNIVERSITY
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY UNIVERSITY OF BRASILIA
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY DUBNA UNIVERSITY


Some pleasend stats. This tread got clicked 1104 times. The most watched video on socratescoin youtube channel (Nauka, who are we?) got clicked 55 times. Everyone can decide by his own if socratescoin raised 11M$ seriously.