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March 26, 2018, 07:10:44 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
I agree, but Socrates is already doing so much in marketing. What else they can do? I’ve seen Socrates everywhere.
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March 26, 2018, 07:15:37 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
I agree, but Socrates is already doing so much in marketing. What else they can do? I’ve seen Socrates everywhere.
That's right, they are already doing a lot and have been quite successful with more than $8m collected but they also need investors.
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March 26, 2018, 07:21:46 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.
I agree that this is important component of any project, even the most successful one. More people will learn about the project with the help of marketing and as result there will be more investments.
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March 26, 2018, 07:25:17 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
Marketing campaigns are always a big factor in the ICO. Having a good campaign with a solid project is the best way to get investors.
I agree that this is important component of any project, even the most successful one. More people will learn about the project with the help of marketing and as result there will be more investments.
Yes, marketing and timing are the keys to success.
If you see what happened with the ICO's last year, they didn't raise that much because there wasn't so much traction in the market.
Some ICO's now have raised enormous amounts of money thanks to timing and marketing
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March 26, 2018, 07:28:38 PM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
I agree, but Socrates is already doing so much in marketing. What else they can do? I’ve seen Socrates everywhere.
Where you saw Friendz? You mean promotion? How about conferences?
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March 27, 2018, 01:26:19 AM
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I have nothing against project, but why such strange name of project? NAUKA is a Russian word that means "Science" in English but there are not any Russian person in team... This is Strange

Its a bad made scam. You are right there is just one  word which would have been dumber to choose, university. University university. In facebook and other social media they spread wisdom. "Believe in yourself", "keep working hard", "never give up"...and many other pseudospiritual statments, which are not even wrong. But to hear it from people which dont even trust itself to be able to master life in a honest way, people which has to trick and harm others for their own success, people which is not even able to build a serious scam, which try to manipulate instead of fighting and defending, how ridiculous and ironic is that? This people try to cheat and betray.  In the nature you call this kind of species parasits.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

If i forget anything feel free to complete.

 Grin Grin Grin Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim  

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm
4. spamwave: 26.03  11:11-    7:28pm

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.
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March 27, 2018, 10:01:03 AM
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Sometimes a working product or an already establish business model get less fund from the investors and those that have only smoke and promises get more attention.
That's true, a working product isn't a guarantee for a successful crowdfunding. It depends a lot on the hype that's created around a project and if enough hype, it doesn't matter if the project has already a running business or if it's only hot air.
Primarily this is due to marketing. Those who have created something to relax and spend less time and money on advertising. And those who have only the words in the first place are forced to spend time and money on advertising. Therefore, it turns out! I hope that the team of this project won't do that. =)
I've been saying this for months. if you want your project to succeed you have to advertise. that's how you get the word out.
I agree, but Socrates is already doing so much in marketing. What else they can do? I’ve seen Socrates everywhere.
Where you saw Friendz? You mean promotion? How about conferences?
I saw a lot of ads on social media and a lot of people tweeting about it (that must be bounty). I dont know about conferences why do you ask?
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March 27, 2018, 10:02:34 AM
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Many similar projects can be co-existing anyway. Socrates is nice platform and dev team is looking for improving constantly. We are going to see more and more adoption.
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March 27, 2018, 10:11:20 AM
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Many similar projects can be co-existing anyway. Socrates is nice platform and dev team is looking for improving constantly. We are going to see more and more adoption.
They are also very active which is very good because it shows that they are serious about this project.
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March 27, 2018, 10:18:43 AM
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This time educational networks are very promising, the prospects of the future are hopeful.
If I would see that Socrates project is good enough, I would invest some money into it. I believe in success of the project and its targets will be achieved.
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March 27, 2018, 10:29:09 AM
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In my vantage point this platform are indeed very promising… This time, there is a lot of projects compete in this sphere, with the idea of the new sense. With the team that has proved themselves as professional and clear, I hope this project would be very good, I’m sure this project will intrigue investor.
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March 27, 2018, 10:35:25 AM
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A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
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March 27, 2018, 10:40:58 AM
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A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
You mean all the kitties?
One this I don't actually understand is, do all the projects with erc20 tokens use etherium network for confirming transactions? If so, the more companies the more transactions altogether, the worse congestion will become… No?
Ethereum network can only process 25tx/s, what if all the erc20 tokens start requiring more than that?
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March 27, 2018, 10:48:26 AM
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A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
You mean all the kitties?
One this I don't actually understand is, do all the projects with erc20 tokens use etherium network for confirming transactions? If so, the more companies the more transactions altogether, the worse congestion will become… No?
Ethereum network can only process 25tx/s, what if all the erc20 tokens start requiring more than that?
Actually, ethereum network is improving constantly. On the other hand, lots of new things using the network more than before.
It is a race which I’m hoping ethereum network will win.
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March 27, 2018, 10:59:18 AM
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A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
That is true but they are also working to scale the network and improve it. So I wouldn’t worry about it.
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March 27, 2018, 11:43:24 AM
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A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
That is true but they are also working to scale the network and improve it. So I wouldn’t worry about it.
Problem is how fast are they gonna roll out the fork to improve the network? people might jump to a different blockchain if something is not done.
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March 27, 2018, 01:27:29 PM
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A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
That is true but they are also working to scale the network and improve it. So I wouldn’t worry about it.
Problem is how fast are they gonna roll out the fork to improve the network? people might jump to a different blockchain if something is not done.
Actually, if ethereum network can't cover the activity on it, tokens easily switch to another chain.
Just a token swap with new chain and it is ready to go. So the problem only ethereum's own.
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March 27, 2018, 01:40:23 PM
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In my vantage point this platform are indeed very promising… This time, there is a lot of projects compete in this sphere, with the idea of the new sense. With the team that has proved themselves as professional and clear, I hope this project would be very good, I’m sure this project will intrigue investor.

There are indeed many other promising projects coming with similar feature, providing supports for tokens, indeed.
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March 27, 2018, 01:53:08 PM
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A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
That is true but they are also working to scale the network and improve it. So I wouldn’t worry about it.
Problem is how fast are they gonna roll out the fork to improve the network? people might jump to a different blockchain if something is not done.
Actually, if ethereum network can't cover the activity on it, tokens easily switch to another chain.
Just a token swap with new chain and it is ready to go. So the problem only ethereum's own.
Is it that easy to switch from one chain to another? Because you have to consider the already done programming, language, etc, or am I wrong?
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March 27, 2018, 02:01:32 PM
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A lot of application already running in ethereum. Ethereum network is getting heavy.
You mean all the kitties?
One this I don't actually understand is, do all the projects with erc20 tokens use etherium network for confirming transactions? If so, the more companies the more transactions altogether, the worse congestion will become… No?
Ethereum network can only process 25tx/s, what if all the erc20 tokens start requiring more than that?
Actually, ethereum network is improving constantly. On the other hand, lots of new things using the network more than before.
It is a race which I’m hoping ethereum network will win.
Well, Vitalik got a big problem.
But this isn’t easy, I heard that this won’t be solved very fast, maybe not as fast as we expected.
I miss the 1 gwei transaction.
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