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I think there needs to be a serious discussion regarding aTriz's very shady business dealings:

Vouch of fake gambling "script":

aTriz claimed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3024009.msg31158897#msg31158897) to have received a "vouch" copy of a gambling "script" that was being sold for over $10,000 by someone who has recently been exposed as a scammer:

archive (http://archive.is/rac2Y#selection-3851.0-3859.120) of the above quote that is unedited as of prior to when the person who was selling this script was exposed as being a scammer.

Claims by the seller included "you cannot go wrong with it (http://archive.is/rac2Y#selection-513.616-513.643)" and "is also able to indicate, in a way, the coming games' outcomes based on immediately preceding games (http://archive.is/rac2Y#selection-513.857-513.955)", among others (http://archive.is/rac2Y#selection-2229.0-2229.126), which were debunked prior to aTriz posting his "vouch" (same reference).

I would speculate that either aTriz did not receive the script being sold in the referenced thread, and/or aTriz did not perform sufficient due diligence prior to posting his 'vouch' and/or received undisclosed consideration in exchange for the 'vouch' and/or there were other conflicts of interests in giving this 'vouch' and/or was actively conspiring with the seller of this script in order to defraud potential buyers

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Entering into shady 'custom' signature campaign deals:
aTriz confirmed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3017111.msg31024006#msg31024006) the terms of a signature deal with a person, who at the time has claimed to be a forum member for less than 30 days, that was for a duration of 3 years. The terms of this deal were that this person was going to receive payment in the amount of roughly $300 per month in exchange for '30-100' posts per month. The lower bound of the cost per post of the agreement was above the upper bound of signature campaign rates currently available to legendary members currently on an effective per post basis.

aTriz entered into this agreement with the same person he 'vouched' for above.

I believe a best case scenario is that aTriz is a very poor businessman and poor negotiator, although I believe it is very well possible that something much more shady was going on in relation to this deal.

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Managing advertising campaign of probable ICO scam:
aTriz managed (http://archive.is/Sul8X) the advertising campaign of what I believe to be a shady ICO, called Ice Rock Mining, and given gives this as a reference (http://archive.is/bRIt9) of his past work.

If you look at their website (https://icerockmining.io/), you will see they are promising that investors in their ICO will earn more than 400% return on their investment. Although this is unlikely, it is possible those behind the ICO are very good managers, and are very generous. However if you look at various archives, you will see (http://archive.is/XxpVH#selection-1177.0-1184.0) the calculator currently lists potential returns over 3 years (which is also displayed on the live version of the website), however the FAQ section of an archive (http://archive.is/6dd3f#selection-4341.0-4366.0) from October 2017 talks about two year contracts. The pre-sale of the ICO apparently started September 25, 2017.

To me, this is something that was fairly clearly a scam for a number of reasons, however aTriz nevertheless managed the advertising campaign of this ICO, yet aTriz did nothing to call this out to warn potential investors. I would speculate that aTriz either was personally involved in this likely scam, and/or deliberately turned a blind eye to this probable scam because of this business relationship and/or attempted to legitimize this probable scam as a result of his business relationship (and of course the payments he was receiving).

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Based on the above, I believe it is likely that 'trust' from aTriz is likely for sale, either directly via trust ratings, or from other actions that appear to make other entities look more trustworthy than they are.

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Self moderated thread. I will be aggressive in deleting posts that are either off topic, or have the effect of (starting to) derail this thread. I will allow both alia and Ice Rock mining to each make a single post in this post (which I will quote and post in the OP) refuting the allegations above, however will otherwise be disallowed from posting in this thread.

How you dare to say that 400% ROI a year is a fraud? I know Atriz is honest and 400% is very reasonable sir. Please don't you dare accuse him. By the way, Atriz, do you have some ref links of this ice rock campaign you've managed?

lol. You are also apparently bored to put some bs of Og in your signature haha.

Its so surprised to see one of Laudas dead horse, still trying to lick its small butthole :) You such a good slave... Common puppy, write some more!

It doesn't look like there were any referral links in any of the signatures, although this doesn't mean participants didn't put any in.

I would also point out that the Ice Rock signatures were very clearly misleading by saying that it is the 'most profitable' mining ::)

I am just being ironic.

sarcastic, but I know.

This Guy runs many ponzi or atleast support scam projects just for money.

Example: chrysoscoin.com ( A typical bitconnect or regal coin )

Just look at the Chrysos coin investment slab  :o

https://s17.postimg.org/yag8726en/Screenshot_371.png

He Helped the scums to make announcement here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2699081

He helped them to run a rip off bounty in which no one was ever paid : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2699148

He ran ICE rock mining campaign in which more than 1k tokens he hoarded for himself. ;)

If anyone else would had done at least any of the above part they would be red trusted, but this tard roams free and PM project CEO that he can help in spreading their words here.

This man is a fucking scammer, he broke a 3-year contract with me when he had no right to do so. Me getting negged was not involved as a clause in the contract whatsoever. Do not trust a word he says

Interestingly enough, he appears to be the only one behind that project.

One more interesting thing is that Atriz just edited his scam project post after i exposed that here.
Atriz and his scam team that consists of a so called trusted escrow, some red rags toddler and a solidity developer.
Blazed and hilariousandco will be proud of them.

Mr suchmoon please read my previous posts in this thread.
I guess they quantifies the shady scum beheviour of lauda endorsed kingpin atriz.

Id appreciate it if you (and everything else) keep the discussion away from Alia. I allowed her to respond once and will delete further posts from her, so talking about her will be unfair because she cannot respond. Also it is fairly well established she is a scammer and nothing she says is going to change many minds, and she can post in othervthreads about her.

I don’t want her posting here because she is good at derailing conversations intended to be about others and about other things.

If this gets too off topic (away from aTriz) then I will be more agressive about deleting posts.

How is the signature contract not about aTriz?

I'll make this easy for you. I'll delete my post and you can stew here with your alts. You painted yourself so deep in the corner that nobody wants to discuss anything with you and you're now creating alternate reality with self-moderated threads.

What I quoted was specifically talking about the contract in the context of alia, and not aTriz (and your statement is not even accurate, aTriz indicated he would no longer make payments under the contract, and alia subsequently refunded what aTriz paid, per their respective claims).

The termination of the contract was specifically not mentioned in the OP, and you know very well the discussion thereof distracted from very real questions about aTriz previously, that no one ever pushed answers for.

If only things mentioned in the OP are allowed to be posted then just lock the thread and be done with it. There is nothing anybody else can add.

But thanks for reminding that no one should ever expect you to be reasonable once you start off one of your vendettas. Good luck. Send my regards to Panthers52.

Hilariousanco left Atriz a Positive trust after few days he removed it for some unknow reason  , I dont see how Atriz can receive a neg trust from a DT on this forum because most DT members and Mod wear his signature.

I keep seeing aTriz linked to more and more scams around here...

Any idea how many ICO scams aTriz has announced or how many of his managed signature campaigns ended up being for scam ICOs?

This one appears to be the latest:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2697915.0

This is another scam ICO https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2619311.0

I think we need to check his latest topics and findout how many he is running

I'm not sure who distanced themselves from who as a new thread was started, but this is another popcorn worthy ICO that was originally announced by aTriz:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2196082.0

He has a pretty shady history. I suspect that he is running his campaign management business as a front for his ability to shill for shady ICOs by people he is conspiring with to defraud investors.

He has run campaigns for too many clearly fraudulent (imo) ICOs for me to believe everything is on the ‘up and up’ along with his questionable (at best) vouch for the clearly scam gambling script that I honestly don’t believe was used by him prior to vouching for it.

Another scam projects by this wanker : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2712054

Moonlight project is similar to cloudmining project , they do raised something and are now saying that they have successfully listed themselves on etherdelta and forkdelta.
But the fact is that no one lists on the above 2 exchanges they are decentralised and get listed themselves.

One more project called bazista which is a white collar scam tends to do the same, the raised some money and listed the coin on forkdelta on some simex and indian exchange which has 0 liquidity and now they have plan to launch bazista v2 like icerockmining 2.
Clearly this prick is on making money.
Bazista is a scream for the white collar scam.

7k USD alteast scammed from me by this atriz and his scam project: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3253973.new#new
I know i am not only the one scammed by him, more people would be scammed by him but they never open. MY bad!

I heard that you have been refunded?

If it's true it's a good move, I think that all those who invested in such SCAMs promoted by Bounty Managers should demand repayment.

Please make a thread and also make others aware of this gesture on part of ALU so that they can reclaim the amount of which they have been defrauded.

Nothing has been recovered yet   all is on promise of atriz.
I am still waiting to have money from atriz.

I am curious as to where this money is coming from. ::)

Despite the fact what others think about you QS, you are needed on this forum in any way.
Not gonna go deeper in discussion but cmon man, you just played for 10 minute and say it works because you win during this time?
Believe it or not, I was playing dice for 1 hour and my balance was almost the same finally, sometimes double, half but lose whole balance on automatic mode in a little bit more than one hour.
Also maybe everyone knows that there isn't any gambling strategy in this world. Casinos aren't for charity, they exist for profit.

Atriz campaign management sucks he is more awful than jamalaezaz, if you look what is happening on his project you may find out that all of them are so questionable and shady as hell. He didn't even bother to look if the project is legit! Since the one he only care is his pocket since he is greedy to gain money!

The only thing atriz became wiser is he add lauda his group so he can eliminate the possible critics that could paint him bad. This make atriz smart shady scam guy.

Thanks.

From the looks of it, both of them are for sale for the right price. It really is disgusting.

Totally it is. I wonder how take to work with atriz while I'm sure that he/she knows on what is the current happening on the camp handled by atriz.

You are right. By aligning himself with the powers that be, nothing happens when he scams. I just got painted red for calling him out. lol!

aTriz, is there a list of the ICOs you've announced somewhere?  I'm sure you have no reason to hide this information right?

https://bitcointalk.org/gettopics.php?user=135920

There should be 0 tolerance for this sort of behavior.  aTriz has publicly admitted to lying to potential investors with advance knowledge in order to help raise funds fraudulently so he can get paid while "investors" become victims of his scheme.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=135920#newfeedback

Set feedback type to negative, write a comment and you can set the reference link to this thread.

He admitted everything in this thread.
I was wondering how old is he? and why a mod and DT still supported a serial liar ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2751956.0





https://vimeo.com/263096822

If You missed this??

Read below

Scammed by project endorsed by ALU [ATRIZ]  (Read 170 times) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3253973.0)

Upon Reading i found the Legendary member crying like a hell, as from his accent he seems African or at-least a nigger.

https://vimeo.com/263096822 ( Clearly he is mentioning the name of lauda )

Upon even more digging up i found 3 videos in one of videos of telegram chat with Chrysos  (https://www.chrysoscoin.com/)coin ( scam ) Dev , The dev was saying that he has paid heavily to ALU for promotion and there is no way that one should think that it is a scam.

See video here: https://vimeo.com/263105204

Basically what i observe from the video chat.

the investor( snakey ) asked the scam dev that how they can assure him that his 7k usd will not be wasted and how they will ensure his roi?
The developer replied some bullshit on investment strategy and later added that they have paid more than enough to the Promotion team of bitcointalk ( ALU and ATRIZ ) so there should be no room of questioning that they will run away with his 7 k usd.

Full video playlist:

1. https://vimeo.com/263096822
2. https://vimeo.com/263104426
3. https://vimeo.com/263105204

In my belief that anyone who is associated with atriz and ALU or at-least the part of core team should be neg rated and excluded from DT.

Would like to hear more from other Trusted member.

Does this apply to me as well if I've used and intend to continue using Untolds services? Try and contain the issue rather than looking to escalate it.

Lauda tagged all my team members (SmartIphone, Bitfinnese, ShooterXD, Avirenuss). just because they worked for me (they didn't even worked on those projects which have scam accusations(false) they were not even part of my team when I managed that project).. if it apply to me and my team then it should apply to anyone...

I am not affiliated with Lauda or you so I can't really answer that. I asked you since you made the statement that anyone associated should be tagged, I've associated and intend to continue doing so with Untold, should I receive a neg rating for this?

I don't think as just a "client" you'll get tagged... it doesn't make sense.

Edit: here associated means working/partner with them on these type of activities.

Lauda tagged everyone , specialy new bounty manager or other bounty that are in his group.

i thought he/she will show the community he/she could be honest one time in his life by neg trust  this serial scammer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135920 

aTriz also has managed Confido.Io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2167196.0) which turned out to be a scam after the end of the ICO. I was part of it from the start and it has weekly post counts and the payments will be received "at the end of the campaign". Confido based on their website (which is gone now) raised more than 200,000$ meaning all the participants will get maximum pay. But after the ICO has ended I didn't receive anything and I later find out that the ICO turned out to be a scam and the developers left without any trace. But the good thing is aTriz decided to give us some kind of compensation payment that I received late, the payment is also nowhere near the payment I supposed to originally receive.

[1] I'm not sure, but I believe aTriz wasn't aware that they were a scam until they took off. I dunno if he was paid or not, if not then he was scammed too.

[2] So, are you satisfied and happy?

You don't know he didn't know of the scam before hand, but based on the number of scam ICOs he was involved in, you have to at least consider he did.

Also, not knowing ahead of time does not absolve him of responsibility. If he is closing his eyes when looking for red flags, he is just as responsible as if he knew ahead of time.

[1] Yes, I don't know.

[2] I've only commented based on data publicly available, he might have engineered it, but I'm not sure, that's what I've said prior too.

[3] This is quite debatable, also confido wasn't a straight up your face Scam; it was very nuanced and the project looked very promising; hell I even thought why would the person run away with the money; if they could even achieve 60% of the WP with the funds they raised, it would have been a good project; also they could have hired people with the price appreciation the token had received.


P.S. : I'm not absolving anyone and I never will without concrete proof; not that many people take me seriously.  8)

Sorry allahabadi my only intention was to provide more information on what aTriz has managed and then later on turned out to be a scam.  I don't know whether aTriz knows this beforehand or not but during that time he got away with it. And no I was not satisfied on receiving way less than what I supposed to have received.

Don't ever apologize to me for saying something that you believe to be right... No need...

I was simply making a few things clear; that weren't apparent. That's it.

Is it safe to say that aTriz will not respond to allegations of being a sold account?

aTriz is gone and stopped posting - already a spent account. He will be back though with a new account, maybe a bought one. These guys know the drill.  ;D

In Red, this is where aTriz took the risk in Confido campaign and later compensated from his own pocket.
I don't know what was the deal between aTriz and Confido. But as an experienced campaign manager, aTriz should not have taken that kind of risk.

Managers should stay transparent and should keep themselves safe from any sort of risks.
I mean they should ask for advance payment from the project owners and keep in their own custody or in an escrow, otherwise should ignore the project.

And one thing more, if any project owners want reputed managers to join their team, then they should not take this offer into consideration.
Because, if later that project turns out to be a scam then the reputed manager gets busted and the owners are gone far away. And a disclaimer works fine I think in managers favor.

I will follow above protocol for myself if I ever offer managing service - I believe this will keep my rep intact.